Interesting thoughts on the balance between rest and mental sanity that’s obtained from exercise! Ive heard the word “taper tantrums” before also to describe the weird anxiety from not moving a lot. Sounds like a busy time. Don’t be afraid to take extra rest if you need it - followers will enjoy your videos whenever they arrive 💯
reckon if i was running a 100 miler every month i wouldn't be training running at all, i'd just hike and do strength stuff. but then i'd be happy just finishing a 100 miler
It's a hard balance really. If I don't train in between race, I'll slowly decline in fitness. Racing 100 miles race isn't a productive workout. But you're right too - I have to include hike and stuff instead of run somtimes, otherwise I'll just get overuse injuries. It's tricky. When I race every 4 weeks, it's an easier balance than when it's every 2 weeks.
Tons of respect for what you can do, your content, and your transparency; but this is starting to feel like "things not to do." If you want to average one a month, maybe slow it down and do one a month. There are ultras year round, no need to do them all during summer. Seems like you'd enjoy the events more. Rest isn't doing nothing - it's incredibly important for your body. I get that mentally it can be very hard to do, but that is also good mental training. Take care of yourself 🙂
Yeah I don't necessarily disagree. At think at time, I want to know how far I can go. But I'm not planning to keep doing this forever. I said it before, but I feel some times, not always, doing something 'stupid' is the right move. Not always playing it totally safe. 2 weeks recovery can be enough, but chronically, it's not enough for me. But yes, Angeles was one I'd actually have skipped. But that's the only one I can remember. Every other time felt like the right challenge, and enjoyable too. The system to sign up for race is also partly the issue here - if I could have deferred Angeles Crest, I would have. Making 'game time' decision would go a long way for sure. Because know you have to predict a year in advance how you'll feel. Even with my experience, I can't fully predict that. And I can't emphasize how much in the end, external factor like work are huge driver. As for enjoying, that's a great question. Maybe. I haven't always raced as much, so I can kind of compare. The main difference is that it makes race day more 'special' to have less. And that was cool. I could also take more time to prepare and study the race (aka build up excitement). But otherwise, not really. There's a different kind of enjoyment to know you're fully in control. It's hard to describe but basically, knowing my way around, and no single race being sooooo important, means I can just focus on enjoying the day. Petting dog, talking with people. Not getting to fussed making a wrong turn or facing any unexpected. That also helps enjoying it for sure
@@runningwithsimon I know how tempting it is to keep pushing. I firmly believe in “if you don’t test your edges, how do you know what you’re capable of.” And running is freaking addictive, lol. It’s part of being human to know what might be a better path but to choose the one that feeds our souls. 💜
How so? Feel free to watch my tip video before judging... But a 44 /44 record seems to indicate I'm not so far off the mark in understanding how to do it and be sustainable.
@@runningwithsimon I understand, I like discussions about this - I want to keep running ultras until I cant go no more (60s?) - I just dont feel this good practice for that - just my 2 cents
@@vitalogy297 I appreciate the discussion too. Again, not sure how much you've followed me before when making that statement. But I highly push the message of recovery and not overtraining in pretty much all of my tips video. But finding that balance between overtraining and undertraining is a personnel journey. I've helped 100s if not 1000s reach their goal by now - so my tips seems to not be that far off, and certainly not a guide on what not to do. The balance of overtraining and undertraining is very personnel and about knowing yourself. My route to sustainability is that, sure I run a lot of events, but I never push the pace. Pacing slower than my body would need makes a huge difference. It's the difference difference between walking a marathon vs. PB a marathon. I always race significantly slower than I'd need and could if I took the rest. And I speak from experience. With a PR of 16h18m, the difference is huge. Your body is totally wrecked after that. Whereas 5 days after Angeles Crest at 30h30, I can jog no problem. Doesn't mean I'm 100% back, but I would NOT have been able to do that after my 16h18! Being able to line up my race and finish 44 / 44 x 100 milers suggest I'm able to thread that line and stay injury free. 2 weeks cycles for big events is too short for me, sure, and 3 weeks is fine. The only way to learn these things is to try. I get that it doesn't look sustainable or healthy, so I'm fine you point it out. And I'm not telling people to do this specifically. But I also think I'm in a better position than you to know what is too much and what isn't for me.
Taking it slowly again until Leadville!
Interesting thoughts on the balance between rest and mental sanity that’s obtained from exercise! Ive heard the word “taper tantrums” before also to describe the weird anxiety from not moving a lot.
Sounds like a busy time. Don’t be afraid to take extra rest if you need it - followers will enjoy your videos whenever they arrive 💯
Thanks for saying that. I know it's true...still, trying to get them out. I mostly just don't want things to pile up.
11th in 7 months, little more then 1 per month. Your a beast. Amazing 😮
And counting Cocodona as 1 hurts too haha.
Good job. I was following my friend on ac100 course I figured that was you out there it was toasty 🥵
How did it go for your friend?
Yeah...toasty is the word! Even the night wasn't exactly fresh air...!
reckon if i was running a 100 miler every month i wouldn't be training running at all, i'd just hike and do strength stuff. but then i'd be happy just finishing a 100 miler
It's a hard balance really. If I don't train in between race, I'll slowly decline in fitness. Racing 100 miles race isn't a productive workout. But you're right too - I have to include hike and stuff instead of run somtimes, otherwise I'll just get overuse injuries. It's tricky. When I race every 4 weeks, it's an easier balance than when it's every 2 weeks.
Tons of respect for what you can do, your content, and your transparency; but this is starting to feel like "things not to do." If you want to average one a month, maybe slow it down and do one a month. There are ultras year round, no need to do them all during summer. Seems like you'd enjoy the events more. Rest isn't doing nothing - it's incredibly important for your body. I get that mentally it can be very hard to do, but that is also good mental training. Take care of yourself 🙂
Yeah I don't necessarily disagree. At think at time, I want to know how far I can go. But I'm not planning to keep doing this forever. I said it before, but I feel some times, not always, doing something 'stupid' is the right move. Not always playing it totally safe. 2 weeks recovery can be enough, but chronically, it's not enough for me. But yes, Angeles was one I'd actually have skipped. But that's the only one I can remember. Every other time felt like the right challenge, and enjoyable too.
The system to sign up for race is also partly the issue here - if I could have deferred Angeles Crest, I would have. Making 'game time' decision would go a long way for sure. Because know you have to predict a year in advance how you'll feel. Even with my experience, I can't fully predict that. And I can't emphasize how much in the end, external factor like work are huge driver.
As for enjoying, that's a great question. Maybe. I haven't always raced as much, so I can kind of compare. The main difference is that it makes race day more 'special' to have less. And that was cool. I could also take more time to prepare and study the race (aka build up excitement). But otherwise, not really. There's a different kind of enjoyment to know you're fully in control. It's hard to describe but basically, knowing my way around, and no single race being sooooo important, means I can just focus on enjoying the day. Petting dog, talking with people. Not getting to fussed making a wrong turn or facing any unexpected. That also helps enjoying it for sure
@@runningwithsimon I know how tempting it is to keep pushing. I firmly believe in “if you don’t test your edges, how do you know what you’re capable of.” And running is freaking addictive, lol. It’s part of being human to know what might be a better path but to choose the one that feeds our souls. 💜
Nice channel, a manual of what not to do as an ultrarunner!
How so? Feel free to watch my tip video before judging... But a 44 /44 record seems to indicate I'm not so far off the mark in understanding how to do it and be sustainable.
@@runningwithsimon I understand, I like discussions about this - I want to keep running ultras until I cant go no more (60s?) - I just dont feel this good practice for that - just my 2 cents
@@vitalogy297 I appreciate the discussion too. Again, not sure how much you've followed me before when making that statement. But I highly push the message of recovery and not overtraining in pretty much all of my tips video. But finding that balance between overtraining and undertraining is a personnel journey. I've helped 100s if not 1000s reach their goal by now - so my tips seems to not be that far off, and certainly not a guide on what not to do.
The balance of overtraining and undertraining is very personnel and about knowing yourself. My route to sustainability is that, sure I run a lot of events, but I never push the pace. Pacing slower than my body would need makes a huge difference. It's the difference difference between walking a marathon vs. PB a marathon. I always race significantly slower than I'd need and could if I took the rest. And I speak from experience. With a PR of 16h18m, the difference is huge. Your body is totally wrecked after that. Whereas 5 days after Angeles Crest at 30h30, I can jog no problem. Doesn't mean I'm 100% back, but I would NOT have been able to do that after my 16h18! Being able to line up my race and finish 44 / 44 x 100 milers suggest I'm able to thread that line and stay injury free.
2 weeks cycles for big events is too short for me, sure, and 3 weeks is fine. The only way to learn these things is to try. I get that it doesn't look sustainable or healthy, so I'm fine you point it out. And I'm not telling people to do this specifically. But I also think I'm in a better position than you to know what is too much and what isn't for me.