This was such a great interview. I love coherence work. I use it with my coaching clients and they have such transformational change. Dr. Bruce Ecker is amazing. I love his book. Thank you for this interview!
This is very close to the metamodel in NLP. Activate the problem state and find the implicit learning then stimulate a resource state. Also very similar to parts therapy in Advanced conversational hypnosis.
Hi Caroline! You might like this very comprehensive article Bruce wrote not too long ago: bit.ly/3csORS3 And also this mini workshop Bruce and I did together: ua-cam.com/video/lHnn2Wf4NFI/v-deo.html - Alexandre
How does a person find a therapist with this level of knowledge and ability? It's impossible to find one, in my experience. I did EMDR over years and it was interesting and even wild at times but nothing changed at all. I'm certain it's because it's my stuff but i didn't have a therapist who could see that and work on it in the ways described in this interview. I just ordered Mr Ecker's book to study.
Very interesting, but conceptually this seems to be isomorphic to CBT. What differs is the experiential method in changing the schemata (in comparison to the cognitive/intellectual of CBT), it also brings to mind the Gestalt-type and imagery-rescripting work in Schema Therapy. The part of not changing symptoms also brings to mind 3rd wave behavioural therapies like ACT. Seems to me that many psychotherapeutic brands talk about the same thing in different words. Having said that, i think he is absolutely right that hot-experiential methods are probably much stronger in comparison to cold-cognitive ones. In a matter of fact, i think that many behavioural experiments done in the context of CBT are effective because they induce hot-experiential change (and this is why the evidence seems to strongly support them).
Thank you .... Ecker's mentor was Dr. Robert Shaw, MD, who was very influenced by Werner Erhard. I consider this work ontological fundamentally. Blessings ... Dr. David Kamnitzer, DC
I think the quote about emotional memory converts the past into an expectation of the future without our conscious awareness could be better captured by changing the word converts to constructs. Convert means change but it is not changing it, it is constructing a narrative that makes sense to use as a rule or theory for what to expect in the future(in an unconscious way).
... the client goes into destabilization. However, it is not a question that past schema is true while believing the new present schema. Both can be true. The past was true for the past. While the present for the now. The realization lies in that thou both true, yet cannot exist together.
big problem i have with coherence therapy is the model, although decades old (with former depth oriented brief therapy) has only brought up 1 study yet that concerns some procrastination crap and it is not even properly translated into effect sizes. apart from that, the approach appears genius
"unconscious despair looks and feels like depression" - very interesting, thank you.
This was such a great interview. I love coherence work. I use it with my coaching clients and they have such transformational change. Dr. Bruce Ecker is amazing. I love his book. Thank you for this interview!
so nicer to hear! bravo on leading transformational change
THANK YOU. I appreciate this very much. What a great teacher and I liked the clear questioning.
Amazing interviewer! Thank you for this invaluable interview!
Excellent and insightful conversation, full of wisdom and benevolence. Thank you for facilitating it.
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Many congrats, Alexandr, for this wonderful conversation. Always on top! Best wishes
This is very close to the metamodel in NLP. Activate the problem state and find the implicit learning then stimulate a resource state. Also very similar to parts therapy in Advanced conversational hypnosis.
Genius--these concepts and explanations!!! Thank you!!
Hi Caroline! You might like this very comprehensive article Bruce wrote not too long ago: bit.ly/3csORS3
And also this mini workshop Bruce and I did together: ua-cam.com/video/lHnn2Wf4NFI/v-deo.html
- Alexandre
great questions. good stuff.
How does a person find a therapist with this level of knowledge and ability? It's impossible to find one, in my experience. I did EMDR over years and it was interesting and even wild at times but nothing changed at all. I'm certain it's because it's my stuff but i didn't have a therapist who could see that and work on it in the ways described in this interview. I just ordered Mr Ecker's book to study.
Very interesting, but conceptually this seems to be isomorphic to CBT. What differs is the experiential method in changing the schemata (in comparison to the cognitive/intellectual of CBT), it also brings to mind the Gestalt-type and imagery-rescripting work in Schema Therapy. The part of not changing symptoms also brings to mind 3rd wave behavioural therapies like ACT. Seems to me that many psychotherapeutic brands talk about the same thing in different words.
Having said that, i think he is absolutely right that hot-experiential methods are probably much stronger in comparison to cold-cognitive ones. In a matter of fact, i think that many behavioural experiments done in the context of CBT are effective because they induce hot-experiential change (and this is why the evidence seems to strongly support them).
Thank you .... Ecker's mentor was Dr. Robert Shaw, MD, who was very influenced by Werner Erhard.
I consider this work ontological fundamentally.
Blessings ... Dr. David Kamnitzer, DC
Werner Erhard……. The horror.
Thank you! I really enjoyed this!
Thank you so much , from Aergentinafor this interview Alex, I have learned so much and i hope to be able to listen to other talks ofdthis level!!!! .
Great video! It kind of seems like a more experiential version of cognitive restructuring.
Very interesting, thanks a lot!
I think the quote about emotional memory converts the past into an expectation of the future without our conscious awareness could be better captured by changing the word converts to constructs. Convert means change but it is not changing it, it is constructing a narrative that makes sense to use as a rule or theory for what to expect in the future(in an unconscious way).
Brilliant information. Thank you
This would work brilliantly with Havening techniques.
Very Informative!!!
19:20 schemas as coherent, not incorrect or irrational
... the client goes into destabilization.
However, it is not a question that past schema is true while believing the new present schema.
Both can be true. The past was true for the past. While the present for the now.
The realization lies in that thou both true, yet cannot exist together.
Is there a "Memory Reconsolidation For Dummies" out there? This is so deep it's beyond me right now but I think it could help me.
ua-cam.com/video/UV3_RYfLhZo/v-deo.html
Academy of Therapy Wisdom have a MR training course with Jules Taylor-Shore. It's amazing.
Good interview. Thank you /Gustaf
Amazing
big problem i have with coherence therapy is the model, although decades old (with former depth oriented brief therapy) has only brought up 1 study yet that concerns some procrastination crap and it is not even properly translated into effect sizes. apart from that, the approach appears genius
Is this set of techniques distinct from reframing/sub-modality shifts in NLP ?
too long....
too long