As an adult with AHDH, I've had to listen to this twice and rewind a bunch. Kinda blew my mind on some things. Kinda broke my heart on others. I super appreciate this episode 🫶
I felt the same way. I rewound the part at 20 minutes in about executive function and just kept listening and I’ve never heard my problems put out there like that. And I’m 40. I’ve suffered with this for so long. Time to get diagnosed
I have never been formally diagnosed with ADHD, but the more I learn about it the more certain I am that I've been coping with it all my life. Especially the ADHD paralysis and the short term active memory. I've gotten good at masking with very organized calendars and phone alarms but when it slips up, it's a real struggle. I've been written up at work, I've completely missed appointments, I forget to call family members that I don't see daily... It can be scary at times, too. Yeah, I completely shut down sometimes. I do love my superpowers though. Right now, I'm learning Korean for funsies because my hyperfocus let's me do it relatively quickly 😆
I've been with my partner for almost 2 decades, and he has dyslexia and ADHD. I also have dyslexia. The more I got to know him and the more I learned about ADHD, the more little light bulbs started popping above my head. My dyslexia wasn't diagnosed until the early 90s (after a lot of suffering through school), and I highly suspect that was missed because I was a girl.... And, though I haven't gotten a formal diagnosis yet, I suspect I've also got ADHD that was missed, too. It's interesting being in a relationship with someone who has similar struggles and completely relating when his task-shifting goes into overdrive or shutdown. We often course-correct each other, which I think is both sweet and hilarious.
4:33 Just to add, according to ADHD researcher Dr. Barkley, there was also Melchior Adam Weikard, a German physician, who described persons with ADHD-like behavior in his textbook in 1775, before Sir Alexander Crichton. (Barkley also speculated that Crichton may have been a student of Weikard, at some point.) And Anna Baumgaertel, MD, found a much earlier description of a condition reminiscent of ADHD in the classic Greek texts of “Hippocrates”, from the 5th century BC. This is not often cited, probably because she cited the wrong book of Hippocrates. But on Reddit some apparent historians researched it (after contacting her, and she admits that she made the wrong citation, but doesn’t remember the correct place), and it is in Hippocrates, Vol. IV, Regimen I. Nature of Man, chapter 35 (ie. XXXV). (In the Loeb Classical Library No. 150, it is on page 289.) One of these historians wrote that the book is believed not to be written by Hippocrates himself, but by someone who added to his writings, albeit also in the 5th century BC.
39:49 The first syllable "de" is unstressed and pronounced like "duh", and the second syllable "loitte" is stressed and rhymes with "Detroit." The final "e" is silent.
When I hyperfocus on making music I sometimes suddenly gasp for air because I forget to breathe... yeah, my body is like "FFS, that specific 12-second Roland TB-303 bassline loop is NOT WORTH DYING OVER"
It occurred to me that ADHD has probably existed in human history back to Rome and Egyptian days but it was called “other stuff” . -- The term ADHD (Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder) and its specific diagnostic criteria did not exist in the 1800s. However, descriptions of behaviors resembling ADHD were documented during that time. Historical medical literature and reports referred to symptoms of restlessness, impulsivity, and inattention, although they were not classified as a distinct disorder. The earliest known medical descriptions of ADHD-like symptoms date back to the late 18th and 19th centuries. For instance, in 1798, Sir Alexander Crichton, a Scottish physician, described a mental state that involved an inability to sustain attention, which aligns with what we now recognize as inattention in ADHD. The formal recognition of ADHD as a disorder began in the early 20th century, with terms like “minimal brain dysfunction” and “hyperkinetic reaction of childhood” eventually evolving into what we now know as ADHD in the late 20th century.
Hang on.... I think there's a lot of symptoms that someone with adhd can learn to control including RSD.. Somatic therapy is an excellent tool. I also want to caution from using the word "treat " in regards to using pharma for adhd symptoms because when the person stops taking it they fall apart... rather than be getting progressively better. People do have the ability to become intune with their bodies and issues and become more aware and really do well with healing
I cant tell if breaking this ADHD episode into multiple parts is genius or diabolical
As an adult with AHDH, I've had to listen to this twice and rewind a bunch. Kinda blew my mind on some things. Kinda broke my heart on others. I super appreciate this episode 🫶
I felt the same way. I rewound the part at 20 minutes in about executive function and just kept listening and I’ve never heard my problems put out there like that. And I’m 40. I’ve suffered with this for so long. Time to get diagnosed
I have never been formally diagnosed with ADHD, but the more I learn about it the more certain I am that I've been coping with it all my life. Especially the ADHD paralysis and the short term active memory. I've gotten good at masking with very organized calendars and phone alarms but when it slips up, it's a real struggle. I've been written up at work, I've completely missed appointments, I forget to call family members that I don't see daily... It can be scary at times, too. Yeah, I completely shut down sometimes. I do love my superpowers though. Right now, I'm learning Korean for funsies because my hyperfocus let's me do it relatively quickly 😆
I've been with my partner for almost 2 decades, and he has dyslexia and ADHD. I also have dyslexia. The more I got to know him and the more I learned about ADHD, the more little light bulbs started popping above my head. My dyslexia wasn't diagnosed until the early 90s (after a lot of suffering through school), and I highly suspect that was missed because I was a girl.... And, though I haven't gotten a formal diagnosis yet, I suspect I've also got ADHD that was missed, too. It's interesting being in a relationship with someone who has similar struggles and completely relating when his task-shifting goes into overdrive or shutdown. We often course-correct each other, which I think is both sweet and hilarious.
ADHD is Involuntarily paying attention to everything as opposed to nothing
4:33 Just to add, according to ADHD researcher Dr. Barkley, there was also Melchior Adam Weikard, a German physician, who described persons with ADHD-like behavior in his textbook in 1775, before Sir Alexander Crichton. (Barkley also speculated that Crichton may have been a student of Weikard, at some point.)
And Anna Baumgaertel, MD, found a much earlier description of a condition reminiscent of ADHD in the classic Greek texts of “Hippocrates”, from the 5th century BC. This is not often cited, probably because she cited the wrong book of Hippocrates. But on Reddit some apparent historians researched it (after contacting her, and she admits that she made the wrong citation, but doesn’t remember the correct place), and it is in Hippocrates, Vol. IV, Regimen I. Nature of Man, chapter 35 (ie. XXXV). (In the Loeb Classical Library No. 150, it is on page 289.) One of these historians wrote that the book is believed not to be written by Hippocrates himself, but by someone who added to his writings, albeit also in the 5th century BC.
39:49 The first syllable "de" is unstressed and pronounced like "duh", and the second syllable "loitte" is stressed and rhymes with "Detroit." The final "e" is silent.
My hyperfocus used to be so deep when I was working in technical support. I wouldn't hear/notice anything going on around me at all.
When I hyperfocus on making music I sometimes suddenly gasp for air because I forget to breathe... yeah, my body is like "FFS, that specific 12-second Roland TB-303 bassline loop is NOT WORTH DYING OVER"
Great episode! 👍
It occurred to me that ADHD has probably existed in human history back to Rome and Egyptian days but it was called “other stuff” .
--
The term ADHD (Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder) and its specific diagnostic criteria did not exist in the 1800s. However, descriptions of behaviors resembling ADHD were documented during that time. Historical medical literature and reports referred to symptoms of restlessness, impulsivity, and inattention, although they were not classified as a distinct disorder.
The earliest known medical descriptions of ADHD-like symptoms date back to the late 18th and 19th centuries. For instance, in 1798, Sir Alexander Crichton, a Scottish physician, described a mental state that involved an inability to sustain attention, which aligns with what we now recognize as inattention in ADHD.
The formal recognition of ADHD as a disorder began in the early 20th century, with terms like “minimal brain dysfunction” and “hyperkinetic reaction of childhood” eventually evolving into what we now know as ADHD in the late 20th century.
👀 listening to the tell tale signs of ADHD and realizing i may have it
It all makes sense
First comment, greetings to you and your generous stuff, from Benghazi/ Libya 🇱🇾 😀👍
Is it Deloite? De loy t
Hang on.... I think there's a lot of symptoms that someone with adhd can learn to control including RSD.. Somatic therapy is an excellent tool. I also want to caution from using the word "treat " in regards to using pharma for adhd symptoms because when the person stops taking it they fall apart... rather than be getting progressively better. People do have the ability to become intune with their bodies and issues and become more aware and really do well with healing