In Iran, we use solar hijri calendar. It starts on the March equinox and has 12 months. First six months have 31 days, then the following 5 months have 30 days and last month has 29 days except for every four or five years which has 30 days. In our calendar every 3 months fit in a season and new year starts with spring (northern hemisphere) which is beautiful and symbolic.This calendar has an interesting history. Thank you Joe for your informative videos and happy new year to all.
Cool. Somethings are better in other places. Shhh. Don't tell my fellow Americans. It makes them angry. Then they get very shooty. It's like living with addicts. (addicted to oil, alcohol and tv - but that's just me - fail)
Vikash Verma Yes. Our current calendar starts when prophet Mohammad migrated from one major city to another city in 622 A.D. that’s why it’s called hijri which refers to migration. In 1976, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi changed the origin of the calendar to the beginning of Cyrus the Great's reign as the first year. Overnight, the year changed from 1355 to 2535. The change lasted until the revolution in 1979, at which time the calendar reverted to Solar Hijri. There is also a Jalali calendar which our current calendar is based on. Also there are some other ancient calendars in Iran’s history.
Same to you! I never thought much about calendars until I made this video but it really is interesting how much they are shaped by our culture and vice versa.
The Revolutionary calendar brought a lot of fun for genealogist researchers, because parents in the 1790s started giving their children names from the new calendar and so you can sometimes come across some people named Radish, Lettuce and so on.
In Portuguese we say "antes de Cristo" (AC) and "depois de Cristo" (DC), which literally means "before Christ" and "after Christ"... And it created a big confusion about AC/DC's name...
MC's Creations we have ac (after Christ) and bc (before Christ) here too, not just the bce, I didn’t learn about bce until probably high school because they just taught ac/bc. Hated having to try to learn a new way lol
The way I was always taught to remember what months have x amount of days was with a little rhyme. "30 days has September, April, June and November" I'm not sure where it came from, and i'm sure my teachers / parents or whoever taught me wasn't unique in using it - but it always stuck with me.
Joe, I was so glad to see you did a calendar video. I have been annoying my family with my idea for a calendar for several years now... It's simple 13 -28 day months, with an extra day at the end of the year. I was excited to see that the world calendar also employed this idea. It doesn't get a name like Mon - I'd call it Smithers day after myself but I'd be open to ideas... We'd also have to name a new month and figure out where to stick it, Probably in the middle. The nice thing is that every year and month start with a Monday. Likewise every year and month would end on a Sunday... It would save businesses money and really simplify life on so many levels... Anyway Love the videos, and OLF!
I learnt it too, although we put our knuckles right next to each other and started counting from the left. When you got to the last knuckle on the left hand you would continue on the first knuckle on your right hand. That always felt really cool lol
@@joescott The full rhyme goes like this: 30 days hath September, April, June and November; All the rest have 31 excepting February alone, Which has 28 days clear And 29 within in leap year.
What part of Michigan are YOU in? The Tropical South part? Up North, the "Damn! it's Cold" season runs October through--at least May. We just had a record-breaking cold day-- May 8 and 9 it SNOWED. Snow in May--so those jokes about us shoveling snow the morning of the 4th of July parade is almost no joke (it has snowed in July too, for the record).
It’s just me yeah around may 10th idk exactly what day but it was a Monday? I think but anyways we had like 4 inches of snow which was very fun to see. The next week made up for it though it was like 50-70 degrees
@@differenttakethanmost Extremes in weather increasing is because of climate change. Yes global warming means that some areas will be colder at times than they used to be. Yes global warming means more snow sometimes in some areas.
If the warp field experiments that you spoke of (or will in a future video, not sure) where space time in front of a spacecraft is compressed and conversely stretched behind it works out, there is no time dilation and FTL travel is achieved. We could use a calendar like the stardate system counting seconds without regard for lunar or solar cycles.
The month april wasn't named "mensis apru" for Aphrodite but "mensis aprilis". And even though no one is completely sure about the etymology of april it is believed to be named after the latin word "aperire" (= to open => because flowers "open" themselves while blossoming) or apricus (meaning "sunny") or aper (which is the latin word for boar)
As I was watching I thought to myself. “Yeah, the calendar we have is silly and outdated…we should look at improving it and getting rid of the current.” Then I thought, “but that would change my birthday…no, what we got works just fine.”
My favorite calendar fun fact is that the leap day used to be accomplished by making February 24th last 48 hours, rather than adding February 29th. This was called the bissextile, because it was a repeating of the sixth day before March (we'd call it the fifth day before March today, but the Romans counted their dates inclusively). I was hoping you'd mention this, but I guess there's a limit to how much information you can fit into one video.
I had to check Wikipedia to know if this is legit or bullshit. No mention found of the 48h thing, but does confirm the rest... and reveals even *more* mess! And I thought adding intercalary day within the year was bad...
The Asgardian calendar, of The Space Kingdom of Asgardia, splits the year into 13 months each with 28 days, leaving 1 day in the year for a new year day. The new month, Asgard, is placed (iirc) after July. A bit disappointed you didn't mention it.
Never heard of the knuckle trick before. I use my hands to tell left from right (no idea why I struggle with this but the trick works) flat hand palms down, hold out your thumb, left hand makes an L. You can also do your 9 times table. 3x9? curl up your 3rd finger, digits before curled finger are your tens the ones after are the singles 5x9 a lil tricky because tendons
I thought of the nine times table as well. I still remember the teacher and age I learned, still refer to it today as a grown woman. The five bit was not confusing for just focus on four fingers on left hand, whole five other hand, thus 45. So funny the tricks we clever people conjure up, and use many for life.
I learned the knuckle trick from Sherry Lewis and Lamb Chop when I was 5-6. Have literally had people ask me what I'm doing while whispering and tapping my knuckles. I got such a big smile when you talked about it.
I never thought a discussion of calendars could be so funny. Thanks for starting my year off with a bunch of laughs! Hey, congrats on hitting 350k subs - you rock.
You forgot to mention the 13 month calender! I've seen it proposed by Scott Flansburg (The Human Calculator) but the concept has been explored before it's basically the same as the world calender except an extra month is added so that the months correlate to the lunar cycles.
Wow, I have actually never heard of that knuckle trick . . . that's way easier than going "30 days have September, April, June, and November. All the rest have 31, except February, which has 28, until the leap year makes it 29." in my head every time I have to figure out how many days are in a particular month. That's how they taught it in my school, as sort of a nursery rhyme, and to this day I have to use it to figure out which month has which number of days. Though I usually only have to do the first part to figure it out, it's still pretty embarrassing.
You missed one important point in our recent calendars as to why it has been messed up and that is that we do not keep track of a year with the calendar, but we try to keep the Vernal Equinox on or near March 21. That is why the Zodiac signs no longer align with their original calendar dates. If we were keeping track of how long it takes the Earth to go around the Sun, the Zodiac would match their original calendar dates and the Equinox would be in February somewhere. That is why they dropped 10 days from the calendar in 1752. Also, they moved the calendar to start in January instead of March, that is why Ben Franklin was born on January 6, 1705, which is now January 17, 1706.
And George Washington was born on Feb 11, 1731/2, Old Style, which is now Feb. 22, 1732, New Style. The 1752 change from Julian (O.S.) to Gregorian (N.S.) took place in Britain and its colonies & possesions (thus also in the American Colonies). Because it was done after another Gregorian exception year (1700), it was by then, 11 days dropped from the calendar, not 10. By the time Russia made the change, in the early 20th century, it was 13 days. Fred
Okay, for some reason I always had 10 stuck in my Head. It was Pope Gregory who dropped 10 days and adjusted their leap years after that, but England and the colonies had not done so until there were 11 days to drop. Thus the 11 day birthdate jump. I stand corrected.
Fascinating, I had always thought that September on didn't line up with their obvious number because Julius and Augustus just added two months for themselves (thinking themselves important enough for that, I suppose). I didn't know the truth was subtler - the disorganized winter became two months at the start and Julius and Augustus later just renamed two other months.
I'm thinking of designing a Procrastinator's Calendar....I promise I'll get on with it asap. A friend of mine uses the Alcoholic's Calendar, where it doesn't matter what day it is.... .....A Very Happy New Year to Joe and all of his subscribers.
Here in Sweden i learnt the knuckle thing too, although we put our knuckles right next to each other and started counting from the left. When you got to the last knuckle on the left hand you would continue on the first knuckle on your right hand. That always felt really cool lol
You're not old. There's a republican woman hiding from covid I know, that denies just about everything ever discovered , in favor of an old fat sexual predator twenty years younger than her. That old fat man is also purported to be "president", though he is better, more correctly termed, Anencephalic.
I learnt in school and I still remember: Thirty days has September. April June and November. All the rest has 31 days. Except February alone. With 28 days clear and 29 in each leap year.
That knucklemonth thing is cool; I've never heard of it. I always find myself reciting that rhyme in my head when I need to figure out how many days a month has ("Thirty days hath September...")
If I could remake the calendar I'd go with 13 months of 28 days each, with an extra New Years Day at the end and a Leap 366th as needed. The idea behind it being that If Jan 1 is a Tuesday, Feb 1 is also a Tuesday, every 1st is a Tuesday. The 365th day would still be a day of the week so consecutive years wouldn't be equal, but a consistent month length would standardize a lot of membership type things. You'd also get to freak people out by occasionally having 13 Friday the 13ths in a single year!
I learned abou the knuckle method as a child in Brazil! Go figure, perhaps it's one of those surprisingly universal things. You could make a video on things that are passed on from the parents as cultural things and that traversed the continents as we migrated. Congratulations on another brilliant video, as always.
M G I don’t think anybody cares about the number of months. It’s the week that’s important. So just have the 7 day week independent of the rest of the calendar like it is now. That might not satisfy some people, but I think most people would be happier with 13 months of 28 days + world days.
A note about Linux time. Leap seconds are introduced on a non-regular basis to account for earth orbit changes. Previously a leap second was accounted for by changing the clock back one second. Since many systems rely on accurate time keeping and this could create duplicate time stamps time smearing was introduced. Under this a leap second was smeared out over multiple hours so time could progress forward from moment to moment with a minimum of discontinuity.
There is a calendar introduced by the Herald of the Baha'i Faith. 19 months of 19 days, for 361 days. The remaining 4 or 5 are called Intercalary days, and are used for festivities, hospitality, etc. The year starts at the vernal equinox in the northern hemisphere.
Joe I just found your channel and have really only been putting a like on the videos that have made me laugh or smile. It just so happens the list of videos I haven’t seen and the list of videos I didn’t put a “like” on are the same list. Thanks for being awesome! I’ve been having a really rough few weeks and binge watching your channel is really helping me get through my loneliest times. I’m hoping to contribute to your patreon as soon as I get back on my feet!
I remember the 30/31 day months by the following poem (Note: I added the line about February because I couldn't remember what went there): Thirty days hath September April, June, and November 28 and February's done All the rest have thirty-one
Think about the rotation of the week as it would be fixed for the whole year. All firsts would be on Sundays, changing only after the added day in a month each year.
Interesting trick with the knuckles. My mom taught me a ryme when I was young that I still use. "30 days, has September, April June and November. All the rest have 31 except February." Only the first line is really needed, the rest can be inferred and Feb is weird enough to just remember.
I'm a big fan of the "International Fixed Calendar", where there's 13 28 day months with an Earthday at the end of the year, making it a perennial calendar.
@@heronimousbrapson863 I think that's a big factor why it hasn't been that seriously considered, because it the months can't be divided by 4. Easily solved by making each quarter last 3 months, and 1 week long.
A quick question…do you see/ notice getting…comments on old videos like this one ! By the way …love your channel I’m a person that suffers from the most severe form 4 different conditions all a form of neurological pain after a huge accident that almost killed me. Relaxation in any form does not come easy for me, or at all lol, haven’t slept more than 3-4 hours max in 20 years lol, but you are a perfect mix of humor and learning for me …thank you!
I’ve used the “nuckle method” my whole life. However, since I now know you use it, it validates my whole existence. Awesome video as always. Happy New Year and see ya next year.
I'd go for all months being 30 days, and then a 5 or six day holiday period before the cycle resets. But the main obstacle that I wish had been mentioned is how encoded the gregorian calendar is. Humans could adapt pretty easily to a new system, but computers had enough trouble with Y2K. That calendar is now baked into software, firmware, hardware, and every other sort of ware. We could have done better, but we're very much locked in now.
Neutron X I have I can’t find anything no new news on if there are still testing it or if they abandoned the project there’s nothing but shit about Jupiter
@@musik350 You went off on a tangent about a very benign comment. You then got offensive about the reactions to your rudeness. A hint- New Year's night is amateur night, and after a few decades it gets boring. I'd rather be watching fireworks from a recliner rather than dodging drunks on the highway. Have fun and all, be safe 😉
@@musik350 I ended it trying to be somewhat friendly after this keyboard fracas. It just further validates my belief in your asocial tendencies. This channel has a shit-ton of nice followers, don't pollute the mix with your negativity. 😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
I totally learned the knuckles trick when I was younger! I've always done that. Don't remember where I learned it from either though. That was so cool to hear you bring it up 😁
Unix time is not really the number of seconds since 1970-01-01T00:00:00Z (the unix epoch), but almost. All because leap seconds. You see, the Earth is slowing down, and sometimes we need to add an extra second to a year to keep everything nice and regular. These leap seconds are, however, NOT regular, and are added at the discretion of the scientific community, so you can't calculate them, you would instead need a table that needs to be constantly updated. That's a no-no for a lot of systems that don't have connectivity so unix time ignores them completely. Which means that according to unix time, less time has passed since the unix epoch that has actually passed, by a few seconds. So yeah, time is weird. Ask any programmer, we hate time. SO MUCH.
I spent some time in Northwest Cameroon and in the villages up there they use two different weeks - a seven day (like ours) and an eight day week, with market day every eight days. It makes things pretty confusing when there's only one day difference between the two weeks.
Your not alone buddy, just reach out, and someone will take your hand. It won't be me, because where thousands of kilometers away. Someone Will though.
Being alone sucks but so do people. I personally recommend dogs. You're still alone but you somehow kinda have company anyway, just enough to stave off depression and replace it at least partly with irritation and/or exasperation.
I really like the SI-units way of keeping time in A Fire Upon The Deep. They simply use seconds, the SI-unit of time with SI-prefixes. ks, Ms and so on …
CattleCluj Dude it’s a joke nobody needs a fake dad to learn how to fix your life I don’t need self help I do get depressed but I’m not a dick head who needs to be told how to fix my life
@@spaceman6463 I was joking as well. I never actually read the book. I just heard that Dr. Peterson has a book about cleaning one's room or something along those lines. Just chill!
I thought of a calendar recently where a year is made of 12 months, with each month made of 4 weeks plus an additional week on every third month, and the starting day of every month is moved ahead every 42 weeks by one (Monday becomes Tuesday, Tuesday becomes Wednesday, and so on), but it has to be exactly 42 weeks so the definition of a week cannot drift (it must always start on Sunday), and this results in a year of 365.2423 days.
Actually, in the Julian calendar, March 25 (lady day) was the official designation of new year, although January 1 was also recognized unofficially. For example, George Washington's birth date was written Feb. 11, 1731/2 in recognition of these two conventions. When the Gregorian calendar was adopted in England in 1752, Jan. 1 became the officially recognized date for new years day. Washington's birth date then became Feb. 22, 1732.
Happy New Years Joe and all other Joe supporters. I think we do need to celebrate our past religious, Roman, bad, good, etc. It is what made us who we are today.
And then you have the US with it´s weird marking on dates.... mm/dd/yyyy 12/31/2018.... the 12th day of the 31st month??? dd/mm/yyyy or 31/12/2018 is what most of the world uses.
In my part of India, we use a solar calendar. It starts on April 14th or 15th, And new month starts when the sun moves to the next zodiac constellation. No leap year, so strict definition of when new month starts, Whenever sun moves to the next constellation, it's the new month. When it finishes all the 12, and comes back, new year starts. Simple.
the knuckle thing is taught to kids here in denmark when they start school to teach them how to learn the number of days in the month.. I had never heard of it (from the UK) we just got taught the rhyme
In 1985, I wrote a a program for scheduling patient appointments for a medical practice where I worked. TurboPascal didn't have native date-handling routines, so I had to write my own. I had to write bullet-proof routines for reading dates, writing formatted dates, drawing calendars, and doing date calculations. Programming around the quirks of our calendar was a nightmare, but, my date-handling routines were good enough that I wrote an article about them that was published as a chapter in a book on advanced TurboPascal programming techniques.
I use the knuckle trick but if you put your fists next to each other you can just go all the way along both fists (July and August are where you hands meet on your index finger knuckle)
Yes, we in the north may associate March with spring flowers. But wouldn't have been better if 1 March (Ares) was the first day of spring (vernal equinox) rather than the 19, 20, 21, or whatever?
30 days has September April June and November all the rest have 31 except February alone which has 28. This is the catchy rhyme I was taught to help remember the days in each month.
Calendar is a insane mess, we should get new one. And to be honest, it should be something like unix time. Exactly for the reasons you've stated as downsides of it. Calendar is not supposed to be emotional. Because that will get us only the mess we got now.
In Iran, we use solar hijri calendar. It starts on the March equinox and has 12 months. First six months have 31 days, then the following 5 months have 30 days and last month has 29 days except for every four or five years which has 30 days. In our calendar every 3 months fit in a season and new year starts with spring (northern hemisphere) which is beautiful and symbolic.This calendar has an interesting history. Thank you Joe for your informative videos and happy new year to all.
Cool. Somethings are better in other places. Shhh. Don't tell my fellow Americans. It makes them angry. Then they get very shooty. It's like living with addicts. (addicted to oil, alcohol and tv - but that's just me - fail)
Vikash Verma Yes. Our current calendar starts when prophet Mohammad migrated from one major city to another city in 622 A.D. that’s why it’s called hijri which refers to migration. In 1976, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi changed the origin of the calendar to the beginning of Cyrus the Great's reign as the first year. Overnight, the year changed from 1355 to 2535. The change lasted until the revolution in 1979, at which time the calendar reverted to Solar Hijri. There is also a Jalali calendar which our current calendar is based on. Also there are some other ancient calendars in Iran’s history.
Same to you! I never thought much about calendars until I made this video but it really is interesting how much they are shaped by our culture and vice versa.
That sounds like a far better alternative to the Gregorian calendar. Easier to learn/remember, and starts over at a, in my opinion, better time.
That sounds really good.
The Revolutionary calendar brought a lot of fun for genealogist researchers, because parents in the 1790s started giving their children names from the new calendar and so you can sometimes come across some people named Radish, Lettuce and so on.
I like the Unix time
In Portuguese we say "antes de Cristo" (AC) and "depois de Cristo" (DC), which literally means "before Christ" and "after Christ"... And it created a big confusion about AC/DC's name...
MC's Creations ac/dc is after Tesla and Edison, direct and alternating currents
@@stephsmanicshenanigans8017Of course, I know that. 😊
MC's Creations we have ac (after Christ) and bc (before Christ) here too, not just the bce, I didn’t learn about bce until probably high school because they just taught ac/bc. Hated having to try to learn a new way lol
William Critchley yeah I can go on for hours about how much I despise the current “education” system but it will just get me all worked up 😂
It's not that bad.. In Bulgaria they shake head horizontally for yes, and vertically for no.. That's confusing!
The way I was always taught to remember what months have x amount of days was with a little rhyme.
"30 days has September, April, June and November"
I'm not sure where it came from, and i'm sure my teachers / parents or whoever taught me wasn't unique in using it - but it always stuck with me.
Joe, I was so glad to see you did a calendar video. I have been annoying my family with my idea for a calendar for several years now... It's simple 13 -28 day months, with an extra day at the end of the year. I was excited to see that the world calendar also employed this idea. It doesn't get a name like Mon - I'd call it Smithers day after myself but I'd be open to ideas... We'd also have to name a new month and figure out where to stick it, Probably in the middle. The nice thing is that every year and month start with a Monday. Likewise every year and month would end on a Sunday... It would save businesses money and really simplify life on so many levels... Anyway Love the videos, and OLF!
The knuckle counter. Lol!!!! I learned about this system as a child and still use it from time to time. It works! Great stuff as usual Joe.
I learnt it too, although we put our knuckles right next to each other and started counting from the left. When you got to the last knuckle on the left hand you would continue on the first knuckle on your right hand. That always felt really cool lol
There's also the Leap Second occasionally applied to synchronize clocks worldwide with the Earth's ever slowing rotation.
30 days has September, April, June and November. All the rest have 31, save February, which ruined this poem by having 28 or 29.
Schwim Dandy
...except for February all alone, which has 28 days clear but 29 in each leap year.
I never heard this until I was older and still I think it is the most unhelpful rhyme in the world. I can never even remember it right.
@@joescott so true
@@joescott The full rhyme goes like this:
30 days hath September,
April, June and November;
All the rest have 31 excepting February alone,
Which has 28 days clear
And 29 within in leap year.
@@joescott Thank you for validating my thoughts exactly! The knuckle thing is way more useful.
Here in Michigan we have 4 months of "I don't know, it's cold"
Here in Sweden we have 6 months of "why is the weather so angry?"
What part of Michigan are YOU in? The Tropical South part? Up North, the "Damn! it's Cold" season runs October through--at least May. We just had a record-breaking cold day-- May 8 and 9 it SNOWED. Snow in May--so those jokes about us shoveling snow the morning of the 4th of July parade is almost no joke (it has snowed in July too, for the record).
It’s just me yeah around may 10th idk exactly what day but it was a Monday? I think but anyways we had like 4 inches of snow which was very fun to see. The next week made up for it though it was like 50-70 degrees
@@differenttakethanmost Extremes in weather increasing is because of climate change. Yes global warming means that some areas will be colder at times than they used to be. Yes global warming means more snow sometimes in some areas.
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If the warp field experiments that you spoke of (or will in a future video, not sure) where space time in front of a spacecraft is compressed and conversely stretched behind it works out, there is no time dilation and FTL travel is achieved. We could use a calendar like the stardate system counting seconds without regard for lunar or solar cycles.
The month april wasn't named "mensis apru" for Aphrodite but "mensis aprilis". And even though no one is completely sure about the etymology of april it is believed to be named after the latin word "aperire" (= to open => because flowers "open" themselves while blossoming) or apricus (meaning "sunny") or aper (which is the latin word for boar)
Tam Has - I like Joe's explanation better. :-)
That could be true. My source said otherwise.
Because nothing says spring time like boar.
That's disgusting. It just sounds like a chick's period
@@inomad1313 Did you just say "springtime?"
Did I?
Boars, by the way, are anything but boring. They are as irascible as male humans.
As I was watching I thought to myself. “Yeah, the calendar we have is silly and outdated…we should look at improving it and getting rid of the current.” Then I thought, “but that would change my birthday…no, what we got works just fine.”
My favorite calendar fun fact is that the leap day used to be accomplished by making February 24th last 48 hours, rather than adding February 29th. This was called the bissextile, because it was a repeating of the sixth day before March (we'd call it the fifth day before March today, but the Romans counted their dates inclusively). I was hoping you'd mention this, but I guess there's a limit to how much information you can fit into one video.
I had to check Wikipedia to know if this is legit or bullshit.
No mention found of the 48h thing, but does confirm the rest... and reveals even *more* mess!
And I thought adding intercalary day within the year was bad...
The Asgardian calendar, of The Space Kingdom of Asgardia, splits the year into 13 months each with 28 days, leaving 1 day in the year for a new year day. The new month, Asgard, is placed (iirc) after July. A bit disappointed you didn't mention it.
Sure, the calendar may be a mess but it's not as much of a mess as my life
Evariste Galois
Well I bet your life isn’t as much of a mess as mine is the ha h ...
Y'all shut up play war robots and forget everything:-)
Legendary Cocktus [WR]
We do that to much that’s the problem: )
@@spaceman6463 you play war robots what's your ID? And platform?
Legendary Cocktus [WR]
No but I do play shit with mecks
Never heard of the knuckle trick before. I use my hands to tell left from right (no idea why I struggle with this but the trick works) flat hand palms down, hold out your thumb, left hand makes an L. You can also do your 9 times table. 3x9? curl up your 3rd finger, digits before curled finger are your tens the ones after are the singles 5x9 a lil tricky because tendons
I thought of the nine times table as well. I still remember the teacher and age I learned, still refer to it today as a grown woman. The five bit was not confusing for just focus on four fingers on left hand, whole five other hand, thus 45. So funny the tricks we clever people conjure up, and use many for life.
Vsauce already cover it but Michael didn't have the Russian olympic joke. So...you're good.
It's hard to find good topics Vsauce hasn't already covered very well.
Joe Scott True. As a fan of both of you, it's actually nice to see your take on similar topics :) happy new year!
Don't forget the segue king crown.... 😂
So did Kurzgesagt. But I like all of them. Even yours Joe!
Edit: Happy 12019!
Vsauce is PoserTube
I learned the knuckle trick from Sherry Lewis and Lamb Chop when I was 5-6. Have literally had people ask me what I'm doing while whispering and tapping my knuckles. I got such a big smile when you talked about it.
Calendar maker: " hmm, we have an extra 12 hours"
Inventor of the Purge: " .....I have an idea"
Nffa
I never thought a discussion of calendars could be so funny. Thanks for starting my year off with a bunch of laughs! Hey, congrats on hitting 350k subs - you rock.
You forgot to mention the 13 month calender! I've seen it proposed by Scott Flansburg (The Human Calculator) but the concept has been explored before
it's basically the same as the world calender except an extra month is added so that the months correlate to the lunar cycles.
Wow, I have actually never heard of that knuckle trick . . . that's way easier than going "30 days have September, April, June, and November. All the rest have 31, except February, which has 28, until the leap year makes it 29." in my head every time I have to figure out how many days are in a particular month. That's how they taught it in my school, as sort of a nursery rhyme, and to this day I have to use it to figure out which month has which number of days. Though I usually only have to do the first part to figure it out, it's still pretty embarrassing.
Tangent Cam: I love the tangent cam.
You missed one important point in our recent calendars as to why it has been messed up and that is that we do not keep track of a year with the calendar, but we try to keep the Vernal Equinox on or near March 21. That is why the Zodiac signs no longer align with their original calendar dates. If we were keeping track of how long it takes the Earth to go around the Sun, the Zodiac would match their original calendar dates and the Equinox would be in February somewhere. That is why they dropped 10 days from the calendar in 1752. Also, they moved the calendar to start in January instead of March, that is why Ben Franklin was born on January 6, 1705, which is now January 17, 1706.
And George Washington was born on Feb 11, 1731/2, Old Style, which is now Feb. 22, 1732, New Style.
The 1752 change from Julian (O.S.) to Gregorian (N.S.) took place in Britain and its colonies & possesions (thus also in the American Colonies).
Because it was done after another Gregorian exception year (1700), it was by then, 11 days dropped from the calendar, not 10.
By the time Russia made the change, in the early 20th century, it was 13 days.
Fred
Okay, for some reason I always had 10 stuck in my Head. It was Pope Gregory who dropped 10 days and adjusted their leap years after that, but England and the colonies had not done so until there were 11 days to drop. Thus the 11 day birthdate jump. I stand corrected.
Fascinating, I had always thought that September on didn't line up with their obvious number because Julius and Augustus just added two months for themselves (thinking themselves important enough for that, I suppose). I didn't know the truth was subtler - the disorganized winter became two months at the start and Julius and Augustus later just renamed two other months.
I'm thinking of designing a Procrastinator's Calendar....I promise I'll get on with it asap.
A friend of mine uses the Alcoholic's Calendar, where it doesn't matter what day it is....
.....A Very Happy New Year to Joe and all of his subscribers.
Here in Sweden i learnt the knuckle thing too, although we put our knuckles right next to each other and started counting from the left. When you got to the last knuckle on the left hand you would continue on the first knuckle on your right hand.
That always felt really cool lol
You’re not old. When I got my driver’s license, there was odd/even gas rationing and the peanut farmer was President.
Wouldn't mind another peanut farmer....
You're not old. There's a republican woman hiding from covid I know, that denies just about everything ever discovered , in favor of an old fat sexual predator twenty years younger than her.
That old fat man is also purported to be "president", though he is better, more correctly termed, Anencephalic.
@@briseboy I think you meant to say he is twenty years *older* than her.
I do the knuckle trick too!.. Ever since I learned it as a kid, I've used it anytime I had to figure out the number of days.
I learnt in school and I still remember: Thirty days has September. April June and November. All the rest has 31 days. Except February alone. With 28 days clear and 29 in each leap year.
I learnt the exact same thing in school in Australia :)
8:30 same here XD ive been doing that since my teacher thought me this when i was at kindergarten.
Happy New Year 2019, Joe and everyone.
Same to you!
Happy 12019!
Oh man.. the knucle thing!!! I am so surprised you also know it. I was convinced it was a local thing, here where I live! Nice one!
Found this video both informative and HILARIOUS!!! Timing is everything, Joe!😂😂😂
That knucklemonth thing is cool; I've never heard of it. I always find myself reciting that rhyme in my head when I need to figure out how many days a month has ("Thirty days hath September...")
If I could remake the calendar I'd go with 13 months of 28 days each, with an extra New Years Day at the end and a Leap 366th as needed. The idea behind it being that If Jan 1 is a Tuesday, Feb 1 is also a Tuesday, every 1st is a Tuesday. The 365th day would still be a day of the week so consecutive years wouldn't be equal, but a consistent month length would standardize a lot of membership type things.
You'd also get to freak people out by occasionally having 13 Friday the 13ths in a single year!
I learned abou the knuckle method as a child in Brazil! Go figure, perhaps it's one of those surprisingly universal things. You could make a video on things that are passed on from the parents as cultural things and that traversed the continents as we migrated. Congratulations on another brilliant video, as always.
What about the 13 month calendar each month would have the exact number of weeks and it would work out well.
Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't mention it. I was expecting him to.
Superstitious fools would riot over a 13 month calendar ...
M G I don’t think anybody cares about the number of months. It’s the week that’s important. So just have the 7 day week independent of the rest of the calendar like it is now. That might not satisfy some people, but I think most people would be happier with 13 months of 28 days + world days.
But then the superstitious would freak out!
A note about Linux time. Leap seconds are introduced on a non-regular basis to account for earth orbit changes. Previously a leap second was accounted for by changing the clock back one second. Since many systems rely on accurate time keeping and this could create duplicate time stamps time smearing was introduced. Under this a leap second was smeared out over multiple hours so time could progress forward from moment to moment with a minimum of discontinuity.
A very timely video
There is a calendar introduced by the Herald of the Baha'i Faith. 19 months of 19 days, for 361 days. The remaining 4 or 5 are called Intercalary days, and are used for festivities, hospitality, etc. The year starts at the vernal equinox in the northern hemisphere.
Joe, you're my hero for posting today.
You need to raise your bar for heroes. ;)
Joe, I am with you. I learn the knuckle method in 4th grade and over age 50, interestingly I something refer back to it. It’s always accurate.
30 days has September,
April June and November
That knuckle nonsense is pure heresy
31 days has October,
January March May July August and December
yat 30 mhar september,
April, June nae November.
It works perfectly in my language. Most of the people here all memorized it that way.
Wow, I learned the same thing in elementary school in Italy, it works in Italian too
Joe I just found your channel and have really only been putting a like on the videos that have made me laugh or smile. It just so happens the list of videos I haven’t seen and the list of videos I didn’t put a “like” on are the same list. Thanks for being awesome! I’ve been having a really rough few weeks and binge watching your channel is really helping me get through my loneliest times. I’m hoping to contribute to your patreon as soon as I get back on my feet!
I like your Russian nesting doll/Earth shirt.
OMG JOE ISS COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA FOR TOTAL WORLD DOMINATION
Collusion is how you make a chewy center. Originated by Hersey's.
(highway joke here)
For that he also needs a cat.
Foiled by a t-shirt. Again.
@@joescott where can i get such an awesome shirt?!
@johnmburt1960 was excited to tell this joke until I came to your comment, day ruined by 11 year old, lol prehaps I should get out more :D
I remember the 30/31 day months by the following poem (Note: I added the line about February because I couldn't remember what went there):
Thirty days hath September
April, June, and November
28 and February's done
All the rest have thirty-one
13 months. 28 days in each month. + a world day every 4 years. Much more logical.
Think about the rotation of the week as it would be fixed for the whole year. All firsts would be on Sundays, changing only after the added day in a month each year.
Interesting trick with the knuckles. My mom taught me a ryme when I was young that I still use. "30 days, has September, April June and November. All the rest have 31 except February." Only the first line is really needed, the rest can be inferred and Feb is weird enough to just remember.
Well... When I was a baby, Truman was President, and in highschool LBJ was President. Feel younger now?
Same here.
Fred
I didn't even exist until Bush became President. I can drive, drink, have sex, join the army, vote etc. Feel old now?
Heck that's nothing, Noah used to call me grandpa ! 😊
Joe, I learned that same trick when I was a kid and to this day use it all the time. I truly do wonder where it began.
I'm a big fan of the "International Fixed Calendar", where there's 13 28 day months with an Earthday at the end of the year, making it a perennial calendar.
13 is such a messy number though.
@@heronimousbrapson863 I think that's a big factor why it hasn't been that seriously considered, because it the months can't be divided by 4. Easily solved by making each quarter last 3 months, and 1 week long.
yes, thats the one with the most logic... even every second friday a month would be a 13th^^ and its almost 13 fullMOoNth cycles a year....
The Calendar Lobby is not ok with this.
@@Trozomuro yes, of course not, just like almost everything established by some "religios" people :D :D
A quick question…do you see/ notice getting…comments on old videos like this one ! By the way …love your channel I’m a person that suffers from the most severe form 4 different conditions all a form of neurological pain after a huge accident that almost killed me. Relaxation in any form does not come easy for me, or at all lol, haven’t slept more than 3-4 hours max in 20 years lol, but you are a perfect mix of humor and learning for me …thank you!
Only one more cycle to worry about but she won't let me put that on the calendar
*rimshot
I’ve used the “nuckle method” my whole life. However, since I now know you use it, it validates my whole existence.
Awesome video as always. Happy New Year and see ya next year.
F to pay respects to metric time.
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I'd go for all months being 30 days, and then a 5 or six day holiday period before the cycle resets. But the main obstacle that I wish had been mentioned is how encoded the gregorian calendar is. Humans could adapt pretty easily to a new system, but computers had enough trouble with Y2K. That calendar is now baked into software, firmware, hardware, and every other sort of ware. We could have done better, but we're very much locked in now.
I like the 13 month calendar idea myself
I really like the nuckle trick. I've never had of it before but I'll definitely use it from now on. Thanks Joe. J.
"It's only special because we decided it's special" - a statement that is universally true.
Happy new year Joe!! I’ve been watching your videos for about a year now and I really appreciate them! Keep doing what your doing !
Dose anyone know what’s happening with metallic hydrogen
Last I heard it was giving Jupiter it’s magnetic field.
Cody'sLab
You know that’s not what I meant
Neutron X
I have I can’t find anything no new news on if there are still testing it or if they abandoned the project there’s nothing but shit about Jupiter
I heard they were playing at the Fillmore tonight for new years.
I heard they are replacing their bassist.
The knuckle trick is awesome. Only learned it when I was 18. Still often use it 20 years later.
I'll be going to bed at 9pm today... 😐
Squirrel ASMR but why?
*you should've gone two hours earlier*
@@musik350 what are you doing tonight?
@@musik350 *GAAAAAAY* 🤗
@@musik350 You went off on a tangent about a very benign comment. You then got offensive about the reactions to your rudeness.
A hint- New Year's night is amateur night, and after a few decades it gets boring. I'd rather be watching fireworks from a recliner rather than dodging drunks on the highway.
Have fun and all, be safe 😉
@@musik350 I ended it trying to be somewhat friendly after this keyboard fracas. It just further validates my belief in your asocial tendencies. This channel has a shit-ton of nice followers, don't pollute the mix with your negativity.
😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉
I totally learned the knuckles trick when I was younger! I've always done that. Don't remember where I learned it from either though. That was so cool to hear you bring it up 😁
Calenders get really intersting when they add planetary cycles relativ to the earth
I'd love to see you talk about the other calendars you mentioned, especially the Chinese and Mayan calendar.
I am agnostic and I still say 'B.C.' and 'A.D.'
I mean, who do you think we're fooling?
Interesting. Knew the calender was a mess and some of the whys. Thanks for the all the details I wasn't aware of. Have a happy.
Joe: "Lets talk about calendars!"
Every programmer ever: *vietnam flashbacks*
Tom Scott's video on Time Zones sums up something similiar
Unix time is not really the number of seconds since 1970-01-01T00:00:00Z (the unix epoch), but almost. All because leap seconds.
You see, the Earth is slowing down, and sometimes we need to add an extra second to a year to keep everything nice and regular. These leap seconds are, however, NOT regular, and are added at the discretion of the scientific community, so you can't calculate them, you would instead need a table that needs to be constantly updated. That's a no-no for a lot of systems that don't have connectivity so unix time ignores them completely. Which means that according to unix time, less time has passed since the unix epoch that has actually passed, by a few seconds.
So yeah, time is weird. Ask any programmer, we hate time. SO MUCH.
Tell me about it! I used to have to deal with VAX time. Based on MJD (Modified Julian Day number); zero-point, 1858 Nov 16-17.
Fred
Imagine being born on world day lmao
or February 29th
I spent some time in Northwest Cameroon and in the villages up there they use two different weeks - a seven day (like ours) and an eight day week, with market day every eight days. It makes things pretty confusing when there's only one day difference between the two weeks.
Im still all alone this year
Nothing changes in my life
Lucky bastard.
Your not alone buddy, just reach out, and someone will take your hand.
It won't be me, because where thousands of kilometers away.
Someone Will though.
Being alone sucks but so do people. I personally recommend dogs.
You're still alone but you somehow kinda have company anyway, just enough to stave off depression and replace it at least partly with irritation and/or exasperation.
If you're alone, consider yourself lucky, at least you have a chance to develop a career...much harder when you have someone.
Ophelia Bawles
I don’t like people ever but getting dogs is sad
I really like the SI-units way of keeping time in A Fire Upon The Deep. They simply use seconds, the SI-unit of time with SI-prefixes. ks, Ms and so on …
Oh please.. my room is much messier than the calendar
No this is patrick
Like mine
Oh no I forgot to clean moldy teabags
Then go get Jordan Peterson's book and start cleaning your room.
CattleCluj
Dude it’s a joke nobody needs a fake dad to learn how to fix your life I don’t need self help I do get depressed but I’m not a dick head who needs to be told how to fix my life
@@spaceman6463 I was joking as well. I never actually read the book. I just heard that Dr. Peterson has a book about cleaning one's room or something along those lines. Just chill!
I thought of a calendar recently where a year is made of 12 months, with each month made of 4 weeks plus an additional week on every third month, and the starting day of every month is moved ahead every 42 weeks by one (Monday becomes Tuesday, Tuesday becomes Wednesday, and so on), but it has to be exactly 42 weeks so the definition of a week cannot drift (it must always start on Sunday), and this results in a year of 365.2423 days.
New years should be in the spring time.
majin buuu
It doesn’t really matter
Actually, in the Julian calendar, March 25 (lady day) was the official designation of new year, although January 1 was also recognized unofficially. For example, George Washington's birth date was written Feb. 11, 1731/2 in recognition of these two conventions. When the Gregorian calendar was adopted in England in 1752, Jan. 1 became the officially recognized date for new years day. Washington's birth date then became Feb. 22, 1732.
Persian year .
Happy New Years Joe and all other Joe supporters. I think we do need to celebrate our past religious, Roman, bad, good, etc. It is what made us who we are today.
And then you have the US with it´s weird marking on dates.... mm/dd/yyyy 12/31/2018.... the 12th day of the 31st month??? dd/mm/yyyy or 31/12/2018 is what most of the world uses.
In my part of India, we use a solar calendar.
It starts on April 14th or 15th,
And new month starts when the sun moves to the next zodiac constellation.
No leap year, so strict definition of when new month starts,
Whenever sun moves to the next constellation, it's the new month.
When it finishes all the 12, and comes back, new year starts.
Simple.
segue awards 2018 winner
The plethora of weird facts in this video is FANTASTIC!
You should follow up with the Mayan, Chinese, etc versions.
First?
Connor Roche nope second
the knuckle thing is taught to kids here in denmark when they start school to teach them how to learn the number of days in the month.. I had never heard of it (from the UK) we just got taught the rhyme
In 1985, I wrote a a program for scheduling patient appointments for a medical practice where I worked. TurboPascal didn't have native date-handling routines, so I had to write my own. I had to write bullet-proof routines for reading dates, writing formatted dates, drawing calendars, and doing date calculations.
Programming around the quirks of our calendar was a nightmare, but, my date-handling routines were good enough that I wrote an article about them that was published as a chapter in a book on advanced TurboPascal programming techniques.
Just want to thank you for all your amazing videos and wish you and your subs a Happy New Year
HAPPY NEW YEAR from Germany
to you Joe and every who is reading this!!
11:28 "Heey! Happy New Year!" "Have you forgotten we have an extra week?" Lol.
I need a documentary, on this! I'm so intrigued, now!
I use the knuckle trick but if you put your fists next to each other you can just go all the way along both fists (July and August are where you hands meet on your index finger knuckle)
hey joe at 5:46 you said leap days!!!. nice video thanks bro
Yes, we in the north may associate March with spring flowers. But wouldn't have been better if 1 March (Ares) was the first day of spring (vernal equinox) rather than the 19, 20, 21, or whatever?
My mom taught me a rhyme for that. 30 days of September , April, June and November. All the rest have 31 except February alone.
CE is also referred to as EV (era vulgaris or common era) sometimes so as to not confuse it with BCE
Thanks for loads of great entertaining info in 2018 - looking forward to more next year.
Happy New year Joe!!!
Or should I say, happy randomly-selected day that is a combination of different cycles of time!!!
30 days has September April June and November all the rest have 31 except February alone which has 28.
This is the catchy rhyme I was taught to help remember the days in each month.
I go by the "30 days has September..." saying to remember. And February is just a given that you never forget.
Happy new year Joe! May your 12019 be prosperous!
Calendar is a insane mess, we should get new one. And to be honest, it should be something like unix time. Exactly for the reasons you've stated as downsides of it. Calendar is not supposed to be emotional. Because that will get us only the mess we got now.