Brewing With Underwhelming Commanders | Episode 34

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024
  • This episode featuring Bartel Runeaxe, Dralnu, Lich Lord and Iname, Death Aspect.
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  • @obadijahparks
    @obadijahparks 2 роки тому +30

    I really wish all of these old legendary creatures would get a gold bordered printing so everyone could afford them. Imagine a precon list of the most expensive, underpowered, commanders, from 2005 and before.

  • @MTG_CMG
    @MTG_CMG 2 роки тому +12

    Underwhelming commanders can be the staple to your wins. Your opponent(s) usually won't know your strategy and not care for those commanders giving you time to build your battlefield.
    I remember you saying in earlier videos to have commanders that seem weak or not showing your strategy so this is great.

    • @jonaderjona5805
      @jonaderjona5805 2 роки тому +4

      I have usually experienced the exact opposite. Opponents are often weary of decks that they don't know what to expect from moreso than of decks they know how to deal with.

    • @jolteon345
      @jolteon345 2 роки тому +5

      @@jonaderjona5805 It's hit or miss. If the table has say Iname, Ur Dragon, Atraxa, and Sliver Hivelord then the 3 decks that people know are powerful will target each other. If the table has Iname and 3 mid-tier commanders, they'll gang up on Iname assuming it's a weird combo deck.

  • @littlel9906
    @littlel9906 2 роки тому +8

    its fun when the #3 is just "uh... vigilance is useful.. and it has two creature types.." and then the #1 is a wild and completely unique combo enabler with several different directions to go in

  • @stanleybell3857
    @stanleybell3857 2 роки тому +8

    Love the giant warrior idea i might build a deck like that

  • @tschutimtgandmore
    @tschutimtgandmore 2 роки тому +10

    Man the Iname Deck is a really cool idea

  • @legodragon1999
    @legodragon1999 2 роки тому

    I was going to mention Necrotic Plague, Traveling Plague, and Takklemaggot on the topic of Bartel, but the fact that it specifies that the auras must be "spells" doesn't work. They can kill the sacrificed creature eventually, and gets returned to play enchanting a creature chosen by the controller of the killed creature.
    If it was protection from auras, it could work, since the creature cannot be targeted or enchanted; however, Bartel's wording makes the ability a lot worse. Same with Tetsuo Umezawa's ability.
    Still really cool decks! Keep up the great content!

  • @Meesvenema12
    @Meesvenema12 2 роки тому +1

    Love all these three decks Demo, you really out did yourself!

  • @kamakazi339
    @kamakazi339 2 роки тому

    I made an Iname EDH deck because of this channel months back. It absolutely slaps.

  • @TheUltimateRey
    @TheUltimateRey 2 роки тому +2

    Props for figuring out the phasing for Dralnu it’s definitely great protection for him lol

  • @moritzbierdimpfl7233
    @moritzbierdimpfl7233 2 роки тому

    i will never get tired of you talking about haakon, it is one of my alltime favorit cards ever since i opend it in a boster back when i was just a boy. great video as allways!

  • @wackzacko
    @wackzacko 2 роки тому

    According to EDHREC, 30% of all decks with red play Blasphemous Act, and I'd guess some % of that 70% just forgot to include it when building online tbh
    Good call on playing around that!

  • @benoitl.3606
    @benoitl.3606 2 роки тому +2

    Really cool iname deck! But isn't maskwood nexus a bit of a nonbo with mikaeus, since it makes everyone human?

  • @thisguycleo2888
    @thisguycleo2888 2 роки тому

    I’ve run an iname deck for years and it’s definitely a fun deck. Tombstone Stairwell is also a must include - 20 hasty zombies and 20 death triggers each turn (not just your own) is very good. Sac for mana or just blood artist 80 damage per cycle around the table.

  • @N1NJ4P1R4T3
    @N1NJ4P1R4T3 2 роки тому +2

    Passing control of Dralnu could be a great way to force huge sacrifices on opponents.

    • @jonas3648
      @jonas3648 2 роки тому

      I am trying to build a deck around this at the moment. The problem is, that there are no great damage sources to creatures in dimir that you can control yourself. That's why I probably build it more like a trap.

  • @olafthemoose9413
    @olafthemoose9413 2 роки тому +2

    Mikeaus Triskellion actually is a combo on it's own. You just have to make sure to use the last +1/+1 counter to ping itself.

    • @twilightwolf90
      @twilightwolf90 2 роки тому

      You actually need to use 2 pings since Triskelion is not a human and gets +1/+1 and Intimidate from Mikaeus.

    • @spurcalluth6300
      @spurcalluth6300 2 роки тому

      Classic Mike and Trike.

    • @olafthemoose9413
      @olafthemoose9413 2 роки тому

      @@twilightwolf90 right, forgot triskelion is a 1/1

  • @wiiblewobble
    @wiiblewobble 2 роки тому

    Iname death aspect is one of my FAVORITE commanders. Nothing better than running every living death effect and putting 30+ creatures into play. And also spicier stuff like the card that wins you the game if you have four different demons (using changelings) or Mortal Combat. Big silly haymaker plays like that are what edh is all about for me.

  • @exeriadc7485
    @exeriadc7485 2 роки тому

    Tried that Death Aspect deck and wow. Crazy good😅

  • @jcmadcat82
    @jcmadcat82 2 роки тому +1

    A great phasing card i use for voltron is the enchantment Vanishing from the visions set.

  • @moedark4390
    @moedark4390 2 роки тому +2

    My Iname deck wins of turn 6-8 pretty consistantly.Put about 35 spirits in you deck and play one of these..... Syr Konrad, Dreadhound, Lotleth giant

  • @storage_unit79f
    @storage_unit79f 2 роки тому

    A great way to weaponize Dralnu's first ability would be to give an opponent control of Dralnu (plenty of of blue cards for that) and then hit Dralnu with one of those black cards that do damage to a creature (March of Wretched Sorrow, Soul burn, swallowing plague). It's a bit mean but an interesting way to build into that first ability. Also Sudden Substitution would be a trick to use on that blasphemous act.

  • @BrianShaw06
    @BrianShaw06 2 роки тому

    Dralnu, Lich Lord could be amazing in a Jon Irenicus, Shattered One deck. Give him to your opponents, goad it and give it the "can't be sacrificed" clause. If they don't have an instant or sorcery in their graveyard, they're in for a bad time.

  • @liviocamerini9585
    @liviocamerini9585 2 роки тому +1

    Magebane Armor is a very good card in Dralnu. It can protect him from Blasphemous Act and similar effects

  • @Talif_Moor
    @Talif_Moor 2 роки тому

    I really like the Iname deck plan. Bummer that there aren't really good pump effects for mono-black spirits, or really non-blue spirits in general. I've been waiting years for Wizards to print an Esper spirits commander, but it hasn't happened. My only option at this point is one of the 5-color spirits or some jank, like Alharu + Silas Renn. I suppose there's also Aminatou, but she really only has a minor spirit synergy and doesn't actually reference spirits at all.

  • @aaronlayne8481
    @aaronlayne8481 2 роки тому

    I've got a Tormod, the Desecrator and Kodama of the East Tree partner deck with a spirit tribal theme. It has the three iname spirits as well as all the green and black myojins, resulting in awesome combos. Iname as one is a lethal finisher and a flavor win.

    • @manuelzoller4767
      @manuelzoller4767 2 роки тому

      That sounds really awesome! Could you link the decklist?

  • @ZackeroniAndCheese
    @ZackeroniAndCheese 2 роки тому

    The all-star of my Dralnu deck is Mirror Mad Phantasm. 4UUU draw ~40. Pretty good!
    My deck is UB control. I dont really have fun countering everything so I barely play it anymore

  • @joedominguez8064
    @joedominguez8064 2 роки тому

    I love Oriq loremage for my Alesha deck, definitely one of the best cards in it

  • @spacefreak5064
    @spacefreak5064 2 роки тому

    I have a mono black Iname combo deck and I love and cherish it

  • @datkid605
    @datkid605 2 роки тому +2

    MonoB Iname made the list on Underwhelming Commanders and i can only laugh because now I KNOW for sure the voters are relatively new to the game. No way in hell is a tribal Entomb effect underwhelming. Iname has been my favorite reanimator combo commander for ages.

    • @astuteanansi4935
      @astuteanansi4935 2 роки тому

      The only bad part of Iname is that most monoblack spirits are kinda crap. There are still some nasty you can pull off, like Horobi + Kuro, but not too much room for variation

  • @lynxthewise7233
    @lynxthewise7233 2 роки тому +5

    FWIW, Iname is pronounced "ee - nah - meh" ( sounds like Spanish vowels ).

    • @jzoobs
      @jzoobs 2 роки тому

      He talks about that character all the time, too 😭

  • @tomatojeff2174
    @tomatojeff2174 2 роки тому

    Btw IMO Kuro Pitlord is the best spirit for Iname reanimation. You just become the board police.

  • @brendylove4285
    @brendylove4285 2 роки тому

    I’ve been looking for a bartel runaxe deck for so long. I tried building one that featured a lot of enchantments that buffed him without being auras but it was pretty weird and I gave up

  • @pianojoker2
    @pianojoker2 2 роки тому

    Wait, Cryptic Ghast is allowed in a mono B deck ? the hybrid mana doesn't count as 2 colored identity ?

    • @reversalring3522
      @reversalring3522 2 роки тому

      the white mana symbol is in the reminder text (in parentheses), not the ruletext of the card.

  • @Trasgobardo
    @Trasgobardo 2 роки тому

    I don't think combos are that bad. SO I don't mind having them in my decks, even less if they are cards that are a must in the deck, like "Mind Crank" + "Duskmantle Guildmage" in a Mill deck.
    The again, I don't use tutors in my decks, unless the deck in particular have some piece that need to be on the board to work properly (Krark's Thumb for coinflips, Pharadox Haze for Jhoira of the Ghitu).
    And that las deck remind me of one of mine that I call my "Combo Tribal".
    It's a "Mairsil, The Pretender" with more than 10 diferent "Creature/Artifact" two or three card combos. . . not all of them are game enders.
    But there is a catch: There's only 4 tutors ("Final Parting", "Oriq Loremge", "Arcum Dagsson" and "Tesseret, The Seeker"), and I wanted all responses and interactions come from my commander... so there's no Instants in the deck. :)
    Every game is like a different Commander for the random skill sets. And in exile with cage counters, a pile of cards that a Mutate deck can only dream to be that big.

  • @JarroTeef
    @JarroTeef 2 роки тому

    Death Aspect was my first EDH and I gotta admit I’m waiting for some new cards to push for a rebuild

  • @connorl0204
    @connorl0204 2 роки тому

    My favorite passing card is Vanishing. Its just a better version of the vodolian illusionist as far as i can tell.

  • @taninrobertson2262
    @taninrobertson2262 2 роки тому

    Doesn't Mask Wood Nexus cancel out Mikaeus' undying effect since all your creatures would be human as well?

  • @Shimatzu95
    @Shimatzu95 2 роки тому

    In regards to the lich there are a few cards that prevent noncombat damage (i know an equipment at lest but cant remember the name, ...armor)

  • @noahcoyle7969
    @noahcoyle7969 2 роки тому

    Can you do a shisato deck? I’d love to see how you’d build it, because I’m trying to build it right now

  • @Krunschy
    @Krunschy 2 роки тому

    The Iname as one list seems really cool, but I'm really not sold on the Mikaeus in there. Just not that keen on generic combos and it also nombos with the Maskwood Nexus.
    Also I don't know if you also checked the Changelings too, cause Bloodline Pretender would also be a pretty insane one to mass reanimate.

  • @DangerCloseMinis
    @DangerCloseMinis 2 роки тому

    Also I’d love to see your take on ib halfheart goblin tactician

  • @Dom9606
    @Dom9606 2 роки тому

    Patriars seal would be good in Dralnu I think, just because you're tapping your commander

  • @SeanBMoose
    @SeanBMoose 2 роки тому

    Treacherous Link works well with Dralnu

  • @DmanDominate
    @DmanDominate 2 роки тому

    Hey Demo! I have a question, my dad played a morph creature (chromeshell crab) that gains control of target creature, my brothers creature that he was targeting just came into play. My brother wanted to in response use an activated ability (pay 3 mana and blow up an artifact) before losing control of Zacama, Primal Calamity.
    Does he get to do the ability, or is it never on the stack and my dad gets the creature before he can do that?
    Thank you so much, sorry the long question 😅

    • @ozxander619
      @ozxander619 2 роки тому +1

      I believe morphing a creature is a special action that doesn't use the stack. So I don't think a morph can be responded to because it isn't on the stack so no priority is passed. Assuming I understood the question correctly.

    • @DmanDominate
      @DmanDominate 2 роки тому

      @@ozxander619 I should habe clarified, it was my brothers turn so he had priority, casting a creature isnt put on the stack right? Right when he played it, my dad morphed to take it, and then he wanted to trigger an ability before losing it

    • @ozxander619
      @ozxander619 2 роки тому +1

      @@DmanDominatewhen you cast a creature spell it goes from your hand to the stack. The crabs controller had to wait for the spell to resolve. I believe after the spell resolves the crab can be flipped face up but the morph can't be responded to. And I don't think morph requires priority since it doesn't use the stack but that I'm not sure on. Tldr I don't think he could activate it before it's stolen

    • @DmanDominate
      @DmanDominate 2 роки тому

      @@ozxander619 does playing a planeswalker use the stack? I womder in one of his videos he said it didnt which is why you can get a loyalty ability off before an opponant can kill it. So I was thinking maybe the same would be for playing a creature?

    • @thekilla1234
      @thekilla1234 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@DmanDominate A planeswalker is put on the stack when it is cast, the opponent can respond to this (e.g. counterspell it or kill something on the battlefield that the planeswalker might want to target with a loyalty ability). After the planeswalker resolves, the person who cast it has priority. This means they can activate an ability on the planeswalker before the opponent can target it with removal. The loyalty ability uses the stack, so the opponent can respond to the loyalty ability before it resolves, but the loyalty ability will resolve if its targets are still legal even if the planeswalker is removed.
      Morphing a creature does not use the stack, which means if the morph player gets priority they can morph the creature and get the flip triggered ability. You can't respond to the morph activation and kill the morph creature to stop it from flipping, so once the morph has been activated it's flip ability will always trigger. The ability that triggers when the morph creature is flipped does use the stack though, so you can respond to it before it resolves.
      So in your example, your brother casts the creature, and it resolves. Your brother now has priority and could do something else, but in your example he doesn't do anything else and passes priority. Your dad now has priority and activates the morph ability of the crab. Your brother can't respond to the crab morphing so there is nothing he can do to stop it from flipping now so it's flip ability trigger will go on the stack before your brother gets priority again to do something about it. The flip ability goes on the stack and priority goes back to your brother, so he has a chance here to respond to it and activate Zacama's ability.
      In the end, Zacama blew up an artifact and Zacama is exchanged with the other creature.

  • @septred3
    @septred3 2 роки тому

    Could you add Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin to a poll sometime?

  • @kingsinnlos2934
    @kingsinnlos2934 2 роки тому

    I am so annoyed that Bartels Flavor Text reads: "Thundering down from Hammerheim, no foe could slow Bartel's charge.", but he doesn't have trample. Which means, that a 0/1 could, in fact, slow his charge.

  • @Highlydangerous13
    @Highlydangerous13 2 роки тому

    My solution to Dralnu is to just have it in the 99 of my mairsil deck. It keeps the good activated ability and loses the risky static.

  • @crawdaddy1234
    @crawdaddy1234 2 роки тому

    Kinda surprised you forgot about the card Conspiracy, the first card with that effect.

  • @captdude81
    @captdude81 2 роки тому

    Dralnu is the OG combo commander. I've seen cEDH Dralnu on other channels before. I would not call him an underwhelming commander in any way.

  • @apjapki
    @apjapki 2 роки тому

    We need more cards that care about creatures that share more than one type.

  • @mikebeatty6827
    @mikebeatty6827 2 роки тому

    Just ran across a card that I don't remember if you covered. Telim 'Tor's Edict, really this this card screams commander. Only one red, instant, draw and exiles something that might be stole you and so on.

  • @ryantew1415
    @ryantew1415 2 роки тому

    Tomik is my recommendation for the next poll.
    How the hell would someone build that

  • @DangerCloseMinis
    @DangerCloseMinis 2 роки тому

    Let’s see a deck tech for Stangg. Love me some old janky cards

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  2 роки тому

      so my dragonlord atarka deck was originally a stangg deck. he's just so bad that I had to switch.

  • @albertoarias3325
    @albertoarias3325 2 роки тому

    Maybe you should try building a deck with Shisato

  • @DangerCloseMinis
    @DangerCloseMinis 2 роки тому

    How about Nebuchadnezzar or Rubinia Soulsinger for the next poll

  • @salvatorestabile5547
    @salvatorestabile5547 2 роки тому

    Dralnu is awesome

  • @givitback5323
    @givitback5323 2 роки тому

    Seems you missed Crypt of Agadeem

  • @nr.12
    @nr.12 2 роки тому

    I dont think, mikaeus works with maskwood nexus in play

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  2 роки тому

      correct. gotta watch for those nonbos in this deck.

  • @astuteanansi4935
    @astuteanansi4935 2 роки тому

    Boldwyr Intimidator? Both a Giant *and* a Warrior, makes Warriors unblockable, and helps your non-Warrior Giants get the benefits of your Warrior payoffs

  • @elias1579
    @elias1579 Рік тому

    Dralnu doom tide is a cEDH deck

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  Рік тому

      as far as i can tell, pretty much any commander can helm a cedh deck these days.

    • @elias1579
      @elias1579 Рік тому

      @@edhdeckbuilding yeah, but Dralnu was there for the birth of cEDH. Back in the day when lab maniacs was just getting started.

  • @stuartm7009
    @stuartm7009 2 роки тому

    Mikaeus, unfortunately, will be turned off by the maskwood nexus

  • @felipelandi1766
    @felipelandi1766 2 роки тому

    the problem with dralnu is that there are commander with similar ability like kess or lier, and don't have a you lose the game effect

  • @bobanducci9315
    @bobanducci9315 2 роки тому

    It's pronounced i-nah-may. It's japanese.

  • @sorin_markov
    @sorin_markov 2 роки тому

    "en-AHM-ey", not "en-NAME", sorry I get really touchy about pronounciation of things. I hate to be a grammar Nazi but also it annoys me if I don't say anything

    • @spurcalluth6300
      @spurcalluth6300 2 роки тому

      Trust Sorin Markov to be a grammar Nazi, eh?

  • @bobanducci9315
    @bobanducci9315 2 роки тому

    I like your content but I hate your intro music.