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    January 1st, 2007.
    In the heart of a violent storm, the pilots of a Boeing 737 are in a desperate fight for survival. Their plane is diving straight towards the ocean, at almost the speed of sound. Will they be able to wrestle it back under control before time runs out, for them and their 100 passengers? What follows is a devastating tale of corruption on the ground, and confusion in the air. This is the terrifying story of Adam Air flight 574.
    Final Report: web.archive.org/web/201509231...
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  • @GreenDotAviation
    @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +104

    ✈️ If you found this video interesting, you can help us make more by joining the Patreon! patreon.com/GreenDotAviation

    • @sailaab
      @sailaab Рік тому +8

      🤍💙👌🏽
      Very well presented and produced!
      Loved it!👍🏼

    • @dennisndichu4045
      @dennisndichu4045 Рік тому +3

      Kenya airways flight 431

    • @cbuchner1
      @cbuchner1 Рік тому +2

      Did this UA-cam channel copy your flight simulator footage? It looks awfully similar. ua-cam.com/video/vgQ85P8V10g/v-deo.html

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +2

      @@cbuchner1 Yes, thank you for letting me know. There have been one or two channels stealing our content, and I'm currently going through the UA-cam process of having the content taken down 👍Appreciate you bringing this to my attention.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому

      @@sailaab Thank you!

  • @reyjusuf
    @reyjusuf Рік тому +2265

    Our company used to joke that if there's an employee they dont like, send him on a business trip with Adam Air. Maybe we won't see him again. It's not funny in retrospect but that's how bad their reputation is.

    • @Remaining1
      @Remaining1 Рік тому +74

      Or lion air 😂

    • @CozySophie
      @CozySophie Рік тому +56

      Always been Aeroflot for me.

    • @yungsh0ttalex592
      @yungsh0ttalex592 Рік тому +67

      @@CozySophie Aeroflot is very safe nowadays. They have bad reputation because of their history but Aeroflot has one of the youngest fleets in the world and is one of the best companies in Europe.

    • @noname-wo9yy
      @noname-wo9yy 11 місяців тому +100

      ​@yungsh0ttalex592 well given that the soviet Union never reported plane crashes they where remarkably safe

    • @Remaining1
      @Remaining1 11 місяців тому +7

      @@noname-wo9yy is that sarcasm???

  • @karabenomar
    @karabenomar Рік тому +1702

    The way they casually switched off that alarm makes me wonder how many alarms they must have switched off in the past just like that.

    • @nakajimakuro
      @nakajimakuro Рік тому +121

      As someone who fly simulator a lot. The urge to turn off warning is there. What make it baffles me is that both pilot did not hear the auto pilot turn off sound. That sound is so distinct that no one should ignore.

    • @eddycarpenter8989
      @eddycarpenter8989 Рік тому +47

      Apparently, following the accident, the flight recorders were not initially recovered because of a dispute between Adam Air and the Indonesian government over who should pay recovery costs.

    • @Incidental104
      @Incidental104 Рік тому +46

      @@nakajimakuro As a simmer yea the urge is there, but as a real pilot, you are trianed to deal with the alarm, to identify the issue before turning the alarm off, no real-life pilot in their right mind would dismiss an alamr without assessing the situation first.

    • @olivercharles2930
      @olivercharles2930 11 місяців тому +5

      @@Incidental104 alamr

    • @faqirmohammadabdullah2906
      @faqirmohammadabdullah2906 7 місяців тому

      Excellent point!

  • @name8031
    @name8031 Рік тому +1520

    Even without training, I struggle to comprehend how the pilots could be so illogical. Ignoring bank angle warnings, not checking their location; these are obvious signs of negligence.

    • @PassiveSmoking
      @PassiveSmoking Рік тому +318

      Its a weakness of human psychology. When you focus too much on one specific task, you can become almost literally blind to all other concerns, including things that should otherwise be glaringly obvious. This is one of the things CRM training is supposed to overcome. by delegating duties between two pilots, one can focus on a task whilst the other is free to work on the other issues affecting the flight.
      This isn't the only crash caused by a pilot ignoring an alarm or warning whilst fixated on an unrelated problem, not by a long shot. Eastern Airlines flight 401 and United Airlines flight 173 spring to mind

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +139

      Absolutely correct 👍

    • @richardwillson101
      @richardwillson101 Рік тому +38

      CRM, Task fixation and an "I'm in charge" mentality.
      Probably the way the airline treated captains/first officer relationships.
      Logic doesn't enter into an unusual situation that you have not been trained for. Checklists, workload sharing and "flying" the aircraft do.
      This lack of "flying" and fixating on a task is the cause of many accidents.
      It's no reflection on logic, it's entirely a reflection on incompetence and lack of thought to CRM.
      Both of these factors caused by the airline itself and its culture.
      The pilots were in no way competent to handle that aircraft outside of "normal" flying conditions.
      Through no lack of their own doing.

    • @marielizysurourcq
      @marielizysurourcq Рік тому

      @@PassiveSmoking we see the "brain 1 and 2" of Nobel prize Daniel Kahneman at play here indeed. If you get too focused, you don't see other obvious signs in the meantime. It's the classic experiment the Gorilla and the basket ball you can find on youtube. And there is also the opposite at play later : instead of analyzing swiftly but logically
      once the alarm "overspeed" is on, you just rely on your instinct and in that environment, it 's worse

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Рік тому +16

      not only bad training but bad hiring of pilots not fit

  • @jamiecheslo
    @jamiecheslo Рік тому +1155

    I remember this tragic incident well. I hesitate to call it an accident because it was the result of criminal negligence. From the shoddy maintenance to the untrained pilots who never should have been in the pilot seats, this was a needless and shameful cause of the deaths of more than one hundred people. Your work is excellent, and I always look forward to your next video. Cheers from Canada.

    • @talesfromunderthemoon
      @talesfromunderthemoon Рік тому +80

      Yes, and they are also why Indonesian airlines are blocked from EU airspace for a whole decade.

    • @EJ-74
      @EJ-74 Рік тому +50

      I was a licensed inspector and diesel mechanic in my 20s and early 30s, I worked for 2 trucking companies. I inspected trailers mainly, trailers are very dangerous especially if not maintenanced properly, I absolutely would never pass a trailer that I didn't thoroughly inspect cause I knew if I overlooked something or let something slide it could get someone killed or badly injured and there's no way in hell I was going to have that on my conscience and I could be charged criminally and rightfully so. People that would put people's lives in danger by not doing their jobs properly and laziness must not have a conscience or care for others.

    • @Teh_Random_Canadian
      @Teh_Random_Canadian Рік тому +29

      This captain was extremely incompetent

    • @actually5004
      @actually5004 Рік тому

      @@EJ-74 I do auto collision repair and hold the belief that heavy equipment maintenance is equivocal to the shopping cart theory. I see EBT cards and multiple childrens' carseats in wrecked vehicles with less than a mil of brake pad and bald tires. It takes a psychopath to willfully endanger others but only legit subhumans do that to their own children.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +57

      Thanks so much for the kind words ❤️ Agreed, this was criminal all the way up to the top of the airline. Very sad.

  • @mdaniels6311
    @mdaniels6311 Рік тому +535

    I always find the empty seats in the animation eerie, as you know all those people have perished. It's like they're ghosts.

    • @easy_eight2810
      @easy_eight2810 11 місяців тому +9

      It's just part of the flight sim

    • @kellynaz9256
      @kellynaz9256 10 місяців тому +35

      @@easy_eight2810 yes but it can still feel eerie.

    • @deantoth
      @deantoth 10 місяців тому +64

      @@easy_eight2810 OP was giving their aesthetic impressions of the video not asking why the seats were empty. Imagine somebody expressing their pleasure at the textures in a painting and someone responds well it's just the way oil paint naturally piles up on itself.

    • @whitemailprivilege2830
      @whitemailprivilege2830 4 місяці тому +4

      @@deantothlmao 😂

    • @whitecornelia12
      @whitecornelia12 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes 💔

  • @nik.6845
    @nik.6845 Рік тому +343

    This is one sad crash. It also revealed a part of the Indonesian aviation market so severely messed up that Indonesian carriers were banned from the european airspace.
    EDIT: This ban is however lifted now.

    • @MarkJoseph81
      @MarkJoseph81 Рік тому +14

      Another reason for those of us blessed to be born in and to live in the USA to be infinitely thankful for it!

    • @IMR95
      @IMR95 Рік тому +9

      We got unbanned in 2018 if I'm not mistaken. An information you left out.

    • @IMR95
      @IMR95 Рік тому +39

      @@MarkJoseph81 Yes the USA's aviation is excellent! But I see people died more often by guns. Just saying.

    • @Blueclues16
      @Blueclues16 Рік тому +4

      @@IMR95 lol , tenang saudaraku.

    • @MarkJoseph81
      @MarkJoseph81 Рік тому +15

      @IMR I think you're on the wrong thread here. Also, do you know the stats you're even referencing? Don't talk out of your lane unless you really know precisely what you're talking about.

  • @anto687
    @anto687 Рік тому +294

    I'm halfway through this but GOOD GOD it is so frustrating to see that they OBTAINED information that could solve their locating issue but then just IGNORED IT AND PRESSED ON.

    • @JaidenJimenez86
      @JaidenJimenez86 Рік тому +26

      Then continued to make one mistake after another, after another, after another...

    • @scavanger1000
      @scavanger1000 9 місяців тому

      Yeah 😔 same here

    • @CLEFT3000
      @CLEFT3000 8 місяців тому

      It’s called “saving face”. Big problem for men and even bigger for Asian men.

    • @ultravioletgaia
      @ultravioletgaia 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@JaidenJimenez86sometimes negligence like this shouldn't be called negligent at all but straight up unintentional murder. They knew what shit they are doing and still do it.

    • @aryanram02
      @aryanram02 5 місяців тому +1

      @@JaidenJimenez86reminds me of swiss cheese. They got many layers of it and aligned all the holes with each small issue untill they had one big hole which they flew through and died.

  • @apt5044
    @apt5044 Рік тому +274

    Even as a civilian, with no flying experience, my first thought was to match both systems against the Control Tower's position and tune into the beacon......very strange that they missed this.

    • @JaidenJimenez86
      @JaidenJimenez86 Рік тому +76

      They not only missed this, they missed the opportunity to simply navigate by ground-based beacons, thereby negating the need for IRS. They also missed the opportunity to simply say 'we can't trust this system' and get vectors from ATC instead. They had so many options available but explored none.

    • @tyecook9630
      @tyecook9630 Рік тому +25

      Exactly. And also as someone who's never flown a plane but seen enough similar videos to know that a pilot can't always tell when a plane is banking I was astounded that the pilot never looked at his instruments at the first bank angle warning. He could have seen that they were in fact turning long before it became too late and corrected it.

    • @craggles7538
      @craggles7538 10 місяців тому +2

      Exactly what I thought that was madness what they did

    • @LateNightCigars
      @LateNightCigars 6 місяців тому

      Dumb and dumber

    • @alansmods1775
      @alansmods1775 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah I thought that exactly

  • @davidbrooks1724
    @davidbrooks1724 Рік тому +66

    The Pilot was so under qualified

    • @reddwarf4278
      @reddwarf4278 3 місяці тому +5

      With 13 thousand hours in the the air. Really scary

  • @sparkybolt2085
    @sparkybolt2085 Рік тому +135

    This accident reminds me of something my dad, a pilot, would tell me, "Fly the **** plane!" By focusing on things that didn't require immediate attention, the pilots didn't see more major issues until it was too late. Their lack of training meant that they didn't know how to recover from the more serious situation they found themselves in.

    • @u171098atgmail
      @u171098atgmail Рік тому

      what my dad liked to say is 'Everyone is trying to kill you'! I've now added, 'so, don't do it to yourself' to complete the thought.

    • @RaceBanner_
      @RaceBanner_ Рік тому +20

      Aviate. Navigate. Communicate.

  • @LassieFarm
    @LassieFarm Рік тому +108

    It's not the thing you're fixated on that gets you. It's the OTHER thing that does, while you're distracted. That especially applies to driving

  • @HunterAtwellProds
    @HunterAtwellProds Рік тому +164

    I’m currently going through my private pilot license training, only about a month in. It has already been hardwired into my brain that in a dive like that, you must always level the wings before attempting to pull up. I understand that the pilots must’ve been in a state of panic and possibly shock, but with as many hours as the captain had it’s surprising. Truly a sad story

    • @jackfrost2146
      @jackfrost2146 Рік тому +20

      I fly a hang glider and I know this rule. Can't stop shaking my head over this pilot's multiple bad decisions.

    • @JaidenJimenez86
      @JaidenJimenez86 Рік тому +21

      I don't consider panic or emotional attitude any sort of mitigating factor in commercial aviation accidents. You're an airline captain, and as such must keep a level head - it's probably the most basic cornerstone of good airmanship. Even if your life is in danger, you need to remain objective and logical, if you can't do that, you have no business being on the flight deck.

    • @DrMackSplackem
      @DrMackSplackem Рік тому +14

      @@JaidenJimenez86 Especially when your life is in danger IMO, but also, this crew wasn't the sharpest, and that's what really bit them. By the time any panic set in the best possible outcome was already pretty bad due to many missed cues. They made so little use of resources at their disposal that it's tempting to imagine that had this particular crash not occurred, there would have been a different one or at least some incidental flight with this crew at some later point in time.

    • @humayrafaizah1428
      @humayrafaizah1428 7 місяців тому +1

      They embarked on the voyage of bad decisions even before they were panicked and worn out. Let's call spade a spade! They were plain incompetent and reckless. I can't wrap my head around how the captain managed to snag that many hours with such poor decision making skill and cavalier attitude. I know pilots too perished but I am having hard time sympathizing with them.

    • @aurelienn.9789
      @aurelienn.9789 27 днів тому

      Nothing related to the crash but hopefully you did make it through your license !

  • @ibnewton8951
    @ibnewton8951 Рік тому +149

    Love how fluid the animation of the analog panel gauges are.

    • @1981dlambert
      @1981dlambert Рік тому +2

      I do as well.

    • @shibarmyburnz1978
      @shibarmyburnz1978 5 місяців тому +2

      Greendot liking the comment lile they has anything to do with it LOL
      Give proper credit....

  • @MrDlt123
    @MrDlt123 Рік тому +58

    One of the most disturbing things about these accidents is that the owners and operators of these airlines almost never face either civil or criminal penalties, even when their mishandling of operations is easily provable. Sadly, safety still takes a backseat to profit in many places.

    • @grayisgood
      @grayisgood 4 місяці тому

      Where does it not? The reason so many airlines have better safety standards is only because of laws that both exist and are enforced. It's the governments' jobs to protect us from greedy companies. They are the only people in a position to do so.

  • @Zehel04
    @Zehel04 Рік тому +357

    I heard the conversation between the pilot via the voice recorder through another channel. The final minutes was so incredibly sad. The pilots literally went from joking to ease the tension, confused, to panicked praying in just few minutes. The way they prayed in terror when they knew the plane is breaking apart is just indescribable. 💔

    • @mrkrabs8112
      @mrkrabs8112 Рік тому +18

      Share channel name please

    • @Zehel04
      @Zehel04 Рік тому

      @@mrkrabs8112 Distressing content warning
      ua-cam.com/video/ARLRZHf12gI/v-deo.html

    • @iAWP-
      @iAWP- Рік тому

      @@mrkrabs8112 Air Crash Daily
      Vid: ua-cam.com/video/ARLRZHf12gI/v-deo.html

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 Рік тому

      ​@@mrkrabs8112 Air Crash Daily has one.
      ua-cam.com/video/ARLRZHf12gI/v-deo.html
      (Turn on subtitles.)

    • @dragoneyr1632
      @dragoneyr1632 Рік тому +4

      4 replies to this comment yet I only see 1. Idk if the answer is there. Can you share it? (Again?)

  • @tractorback76
    @tractorback76 5 місяців тому +13

    It blows me away, after watching about 15 of these videos, that air travel is so incident free and honeslty treated like no big deal. The amounts of prep and stuff that all has to function at 100%...unreal

    • @blackjack4195
      @blackjack4195 17 днів тому +1

      Important to note also is that there's a lot of things that don't actually have to work but are focused on in order to keep the flight safe. As many backups as possible to keep flying safe.

  • @catdoctrigeek1464
    @catdoctrigeek1464 Рік тому +63

    This blatant degree of incompetence gives me the creeps. Unsuspecting passengers, victims of a shoddy moral compass.

  • @badmonkey2222
    @badmonkey2222 Рік тому +199

    I've been flying all my life but this accident always scared the hell out of me. I've heard the full cockpit voice recording of the pilots screaming and praying for almost a full minute and worse after you hear the plane breaking up is horrifying, then trying to imagine the sheer terror the those poor passengers were going through I don't even have words for it.

    • @Blueclues16
      @Blueclues16 Рік тому +18

      I got the fear of flying and only by listening to the voice recording had me terrified. Can’t imagine what they all went through.

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 Рік тому +14

      Yep. No aircraft for me. Between crashing and the TSA, I want nothing to do with flying…

    • @paigeconnelly4244
      @paigeconnelly4244 Рік тому +28

      ​@@dennisyoung4631 and yet, flying is still millions if times more safe than driving a car...

    • @aeromotive2
      @aeromotive2 Рік тому +5

      @@dennisyoung4631 cmon dude be logical..

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 Рік тому +12

      @@aeromotive2 PTSD isn’t logical, but it must be respected. No airports for me.

  • @bluecoffee8414
    @bluecoffee8414 Рік тому +39

    Why would the pilots hide the problem from ATC !?!

    • @argya
      @argya Рік тому +13

      Adam Air had a shoddy reputation of grounding pilots for speaking out, so might got smth to do w that

    • @davidkershaw5379
      @davidkershaw5379 3 місяці тому +2

      They are used to doing it, it has become second nature.

    • @indianfan1029
      @indianfan1029 2 місяці тому +2

      Isn't that how the world works? If you speak up against your country you are deemed as an anti-national. If you speak out against your own family, you are again looked down upon. Basically you are not allowed to speak bad things about the system that you are a part of. If the pilot had told the ATC, it would have brought bad reputation to Adam Air.

  • @lightningllama
    @lightningllama Рік тому +25

    A surprisngly high number of aviation accidents taking place in south east asia

    • @Onion_Knights
      @Onion_Knights Рік тому +6

      tbh, i always hear "Indonesia" in most of accidents

    • @roro4787
      @roro4787 Рік тому +3

      used to take place, the pain of developing countries. However, post-2017 thanks to economic development and regulation, now situation now is way better and safer than before

    • @dasgibmekker768
      @dasgibmekker768 3 місяці тому +1

      More than half the world's population is concentrated in SE asia...

  • @lightningllama
    @lightningllama Рік тому +44

    Such a shameful case of negligence and incompetence resulting in loss of life... terrible.

  • @aeyb701
    @aeyb701 Рік тому +19

    That old, deadly respect of heirarchy meant no one was flying the plane. I’m no aviator. I just see this theme repeated in so many crash videos.
    13,000 hours, all on sunny calm days….in a golf cart.

  • @staygreezy
    @staygreezy 11 місяців тому +16

    This whole story made me think “did this guy even know how to fly a plane?”

  • @kmacksb
    @kmacksb Рік тому +132

    I follow quite a few aviation safety-related channels and I would like to commend you as one of the best. You do a very good job of explaining what happened and why.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +11

      Much appreciated! We put a lot of work into these so I'm glad you find them interesting :)

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Рік тому +1

      ​@@GreenDotAviation I've mentioned y'all elsewhere as a source of good content.👍

    • @peachblossom9179
      @peachblossom9179 2 місяці тому

      Could you recommend some others?

    • @iandavis8725
      @iandavis8725 2 місяці тому

      @@peachblossom9179Mentour Pilot is one of the best to watch.

    • @tosspot1305
      @tosspot1305 Місяць тому

      ​@@peachblossom9179Mentour Pilot and 74 gear are 2 good ones

  • @ctbrahmstedt
    @ctbrahmstedt Рік тому +30

    Could you add the flight info to the video descriptions? Nothing in depth, just something like: Green Airlines GA72 July 1, 1990.
    It’s really helpful to get an idea of the state of technology during the time of the incident. Thanks, these are great videos!

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 Рік тому +110

    Love the consistent quality of this channel.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +4

      Thanks, we're always trying to make each one better than the last

    • @PJay-wy5fx
      @PJay-wy5fx Рік тому

      @@GreenDotAviation Technically, that is not consistent quality. But in a good way of course :-D I was pleasantly surprised to see another upload so soon after another. After initially bingeing through all your videos, waiting for the next one has been painful at times ;-)

    • @Jek_the_ripper
      @Jek_the_ripper Рік тому

      Lolo mo love

  • @michaelcrossley4716
    @michaelcrossley4716 Рік тому +74

    I've been binge watching these videos since discovering your channel last week. Great job on all the videos. Cheers!

  • @LucasMRBraga
    @LucasMRBraga Рік тому +30

    Every time I watch your videos I can’t help but imagine what it’d be like to actually be in one of these airplanes just plummeting to the ground. Worst way to go. Thanks for the great channel 👏🏼

    • @Mandy_39
      @Mandy_39 Рік тому +1

      Omg, I can't even imagine...

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 Рік тому +2

      Bank Angle! Bank Angle!

    • @carriefawcett9990
      @carriefawcett9990 2 місяці тому

      I think rotting away in a nursing home wearing nappies, and dying a long, slow death requiring morphine, medazolam and buscopan is a worse death than dying quickly in a place crash.

  • @Teh_Monk
    @Teh_Monk Рік тому +38

    This is the first time I’ve seen you on camera! It’s always nice to know what the narrator looks like. Cheers to you, man. Thanks for the awesome videos.

    • @1981dlambert
      @1981dlambert Рік тому +5

      Yeah, I thought that was a nice touch as well. I imagine it will help create a connection with the audience.

    • @lesliesummers7004
      @lesliesummers7004 Рік тому +2

      This is the comment I was looking for

    • @maxtornogood
      @maxtornogood Рік тому +1

      That was a nice surprise for sure!

  • @pautanpasaribu6643
    @pautanpasaribu6643 Рік тому +8

    Excellent video as always. As an Indonesian, I like the way you pronounced the names of pilots and cities, not many Westerners could do that perfectly as you always did. Excellent, just excellent.

  • @ayuvanjava2071
    @ayuvanjava2071 Місяць тому +1

    I lost a dear friend in this accident. He was newly wed, and in this flight with his wife and his wife’s family, flying back to manado after their wedding in Surabaya. I remember I was in Singapore when another friend broke the news to me and told me to check the news,only to foond out the heart-breaking news. Every new year I take a moment to remember him, and our times back in the days when we used to hang out/joke around/play music instruments together. He’s greatly missed. 😢 RIP, R, my dear friend.

  • @nathalieeex3
    @nathalieeex3 Рік тому +19

    Had to come back to say this was the saddest one I’ve heard. Something about the panic in their voices at the final moments and how avoidable this was. Thanks again for the upload.

  • @EpicJoshua314
    @EpicJoshua314 Рік тому +18

    In 2008 an Adam Air plane skidded off the runway and no evacuation slides were deployed as the flight attendants weren’t trained on how to use the slides: to my understanding the passengers were evacuated via ladders.
    Adam Air: worst airline ever to exist?

    • @talesfromunderthemoon
      @talesfromunderthemoon Рік тому +4

      In Indonesia? Yes, and they are the principal reason why Indonesia is blocked from EU airspace for a whole decade.

    • @JaidenJimenez86
      @JaidenJimenez86 Рік тому

      What? How? I thought the whole idea was that as soon as the doors open, the slides deploy automatically? Hence, 'doors to auto', 'doors to manual'...?

    • @EpicJoshua314
      @EpicJoshua314 Рік тому +3

      @@JaidenJimenez86 The doors can be disarmed so ground crews can open them from the outside. Looks like the flight attendants forgot to arm the doors.

  • @michaelmitchell9612
    @michaelmitchell9612 Рік тому +41

    Can always count on Green Dot Aviation excellent videos, thanks to your crew!

  • @anxhelakoci7642
    @anxhelakoci7642 Місяць тому +1

    I love this Channel! He speaks so well and gives so much detail. I didn’t know I had such a fascination with this kind of stuff! RIP to all the lives lost!

  • @theostalproject
    @theostalproject Рік тому +20

    Best aircraft investigation channel on youtube by a good margin, others don't come close. Keep em coming

  • @de341f6
    @de341f6 Рік тому +7

    I'm from the Philippines and Indonesia and Malaysia are our "sibling countries" with similar types of corruption etc. but despite Indonesia being the richest among us three, they some how have abyssmal flight safety records while Philippine Airlines and Malaysian Air have stellar records not just in SEA, but Asia as a whole. It's really just shocking to us that Indonesian authorities dont try to be more careful with their aviation industry because to us theyre an extension of our diplomacy....

    • @Othman1992on
      @Othman1992on 3 місяці тому

      Despite being the richest, it's still a poor country due to its massive population that keeps rising. Take India for example, rich government but poor people and still technologically regressive.

  • @mahogany3947
    @mahogany3947 Рік тому +30

    I'm addicted to your shows you present them so well . If I close my eyes and visualize that almost seems like I'm there

    • @daheikkinen
      @daheikkinen Рік тому +3

      Why you would want to be there is another question 🙋

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому

      Thanks for the nice words ❤️

  • @PassiveSmoking
    @PassiveSmoking Рік тому +19

    This video only briefly touches on the complete and utter corruption and incompetence that was AdamAir, an airline named after the founder's son, whom she put in charge in a blatant act of nepotism. The finances were questionable at best, the work culture was utterly toxic and even after the accident happened the airline refused any responsibility, even trying to squirm out of paying for the salvage operation to retrieve the wreckage of the aircraft and find its flight recorders.
    Adamair was an accident waiting to happen, it was pretty much inevitable that the story of this airline was going to end with a mass casualty event.

    • @shibarmyburnz1978
      @shibarmyburnz1978 5 місяців тому

      Would be a good additional to the video ay
      Sloppy to not include it

  • @oliverclark8873
    @oliverclark8873 Рік тому +62

    If you are in an airspace where you still have radar coverage and good verbal comms with ATC why wouldn’t you just advise the problem and ask for vectors?

    • @MrSteror
      @MrSteror 11 місяців тому +13

      Saving face culture - it is a manner of being where any ask for help or admission of mistake is a sign of weakness rather than part of problem solving. Of course the pilots didn't know the risk they were putting themselves in.

    • @CLEFT3000
      @CLEFT3000 8 місяців тому +3

      @@MrSterorexactly the term I used. Prevalent across the world but particularly in Asian countries

    • @fschutt.maps4print
      @fschutt.maps4print 17 днів тому

      They did exactly that but for some reason ignored the ATC response.

  • @jppauley9969
    @jppauley9969 Рік тому +4

    I have now binge watched every video you have up! Outstanding work!!

  • @manicpanic4486
    @manicpanic4486 Рік тому +12

    Only found your channel a matter of weeks ago, but I've watched every one with intrigue, disbelief an sheer terror at some of the incidents.
    You have an amazing channel here, and your style of work is incredibly good and informative .
    Huge thanks and already looking forward to the next video...

  • @sailorsaturn8815
    @sailorsaturn8815 Рік тому +2

    I love how informative your videos are! You can tell how passionate you are, and how much work you put in! Keep it up ✈️💜

  • @wavehopper4183
    @wavehopper4183 Рік тому +2

    Excellent video as always. I'm impressed with the sheer amount of effort you put into these (the correct plane, knowledge of a vast number of airframes, recreation in the simulator). You also explain it very well.

  • @wilko871
    @wilko871 Рік тому +12

    Once again, I'm amazed by the gripping nature of such a simple video! A credit to the content and quality of your narration. I may never fly again after finding this channel! You should be very proud of it.

  • @2277pepino
    @2277pepino Рік тому +4

    Been a subscriber since you were in the thousands of subs, you have been making better and better videos every time and dedication on the animation is amazing. Keep up the good work!

  • @Primus54
    @Primus54 Рік тому +3

    Excellently produced video. Your narration puts we viewers right into the middle of the story.

  • @TerrificTara
    @TerrificTara Рік тому +5

    So awesome how the plane looks beat up and tired on the outside. Everything is so detailed, I love it!

  • @usmale49
    @usmale49 Рік тому +4

    Absolutely horrific. Thank you for creating, uploading and sharing. Great channel!!

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +1

      Thank you kindly, more on the way 😄

    • @usmale49
      @usmale49 Рік тому

      @@GreenDotAviation You're welcome! Looking forward to more great videos!!

  • @flyyhighhr
    @flyyhighhr Рік тому +26

    great content as always man your one of the best up and comers in the aviation accident genre. respect

  • @slypear
    @slypear Рік тому +6

    Always top-notch analysis and commentary - thank you.
    And this time, great to actually see you!

  • @JulianMichaelOnLine
    @JulianMichaelOnLine Рік тому +15

    This channel has become something special. I’ve watched it just get better and better.. Quality research with authoritative narration combined with a fascinating and often tragic subject matter makes for gripping viewing. Superb. 👍

  • @SallyGreenaway
    @SallyGreenaway Рік тому +5

    Brilliant coverage of this very sad crash.

  • @axilleas
    @axilleas Рік тому +5

    What was so sad was that they had ways to figure out which unit was giving them erroneous readings before it became a major issue but they were never trained to handle it or given the general knowledge that would have helped them figure it out.
    They could have tuned a couple of VOR/DMEs and checked the intersecting points of the two circles, switching everything over to the correct IRS but no one ever showed them such basic navigation techniques.

  • @carlramirez6339
    @carlramirez6339 Рік тому +11

    The thing about Indonesian aviation at the time was that it seemed that all they aimed to do was be safer than the maritime or road transport system, which is an extremely low bar.

  • @Guangrui
    @Guangrui Рік тому +11

    the pilots got so used to fly on instruments that they became helpless when gears stopped working

    • @JaidenJimenez86
      @JaidenJimenez86 Рік тому +4

      I don't think that's an issue here - reliance on instruments would mean they would be fine with navigating by VOR. The issue seems to be their over-reliance on computer navigation, and lack of task prioritization and CRM.

  • @mwbgaming28
    @mwbgaming28 Рік тому +5

    I could've prevented that crash even before I got my pilot license, seriously, how did those guys even get their licenses?
    How do you look at the ADI, see that you're in a bank, and still think that the IRS is going to calibrate properly
    In the high speed dive, you don't yank the stick back like he did, you pretend the stick is made of dry pasta, and use just barely enough force to start pulling out (even then, at those speeds, it's not guaranteed to work)
    And you certainly don't try to pull out of a dive unless your wings are level

  • @nathalieeex3
    @nathalieeex3 Рік тому +11

    My favorite channel. Thank you for another great upload.

  • @abuchowdhury-sp7ux
    @abuchowdhury-sp7ux Рік тому +3

    Was waiting long enough to hear from you again , keep it up your and your team good work

  • @kathypappas6867
    @kathypappas6867 Рік тому +8

    You do an awesome job with this channel! Thank you so much! 💜

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 Рік тому +4

    I've listened to the CVR multiple times now and it will forever send chills down my very spine

  • @JohnChuprun
    @JohnChuprun Рік тому +10

    I've watched so many different accident channels like this, and yours by far are my favorite. Not sure why, just your own voice (not a robot or words only), great technical insight and descriptions, etc. I've watched every video you have now hah. Good job man.
    Unbelievable how this crash happened, even a student pilot would know how to pull out of that dive safely. Such ineptness at that airline. When I fly, I never just rely on 1 navigation aid. Even with GPS, I'm constantly using VORs to cross check, dead reckoning with charts, another GPS source like foreflight+receiver, or other methods such as even ADF.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +2

      Many thanks for the kind words 🙏 I think the big weakness here was in CRM, though it is shocking how poorly the dive was dealt with...

    • @TalaR04
      @TalaR04 Рік тому

      @@GreenDotAviation Are u a pilot?

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  Рік тому +2

      @@TalaR04 I'm training to be one, yep!

    • @JohnChuprun
      @JohnChuprun Рік тому

      @@GreenDotAviation Agreed. Although, either they couldn't read the QRH, or they had some horrible copy, that mentioned - hold it straight and level! How can the captain say, no don't correct it, as it goes into a steep banking dive. He has a gyro based (non IRS) attitude indicator right next to him, the standby instrument. Just amazing.
      Good luck on your pilot certificate! What are you flying in?

  • @ERjX9
    @ERjX9 Рік тому +5

    Wow, this is really sad. Great video as always, you really deserve more subscribers!

  • @X1erra
    @X1erra Рік тому +4

    Oh... not this again... I would yell at them "You incompetent pilots!" on their afterlife. :(
    The worst stain on my country's aviation history is definitely this flight. Whenever I take a local flight I always pray they do not let this happen again, even today.

  • @williamglaser6577
    @williamglaser6577 Рік тому +3

    Great presentation, thank you.

  • @micheleshively8557
    @micheleshively8557 Рік тому +2

    Love your voice and videos Petter! You make it where the common person can understand the airliner. Appreciated 💕 sad mess here. RIP to victims

  • @legioner9
    @legioner9 11 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic explanations and graphics. You do well.

  • @Ha4r4eset
    @Ha4r4eset Рік тому +3

    Excellent video man and a nice personal touch at the end.

  • @alessandromontoya6195
    @alessandromontoya6195 Рік тому +4

    Great episode 👍

  • @tishfox2858
    @tishfox2858 Рік тому

    First time watching Green dot.I very much enjoyed the format of this video..commentary very clear & at a nice easy pace..easy to follow.Thankyou.I have now subscribed.

  • @Neeraj1503
    @Neeraj1503 Рік тому +1

    Undoubtedly one of my most favorite channel on UA-cam.

  • @LassieFarm
    @LassieFarm Рік тому +8

    Just in time for bedtime stories. But seriously I'll watch tomorrow 👍

  • @emililiev1621
    @emililiev1621 Рік тому +5

    I was waiting to see the video on Saturday, but it came out Sunday early morning at 04:00 UK time.
    Keep up the good work 😊

  • @wikkidfury
    @wikkidfury Рік тому +1

    I just found ur channel in my news feed, and watched ur video. It was perfectly made, and u explained the tragedy so well! It's a sad and horrific event, and I do hope that the innocent souls are resting in peace...🙏✈️💔😢
    U made a subscriber out of me, THANK U!!!🤗💖👏🙃🙋‍♀️
    R.I.P ADAM AIR 574....✈️🙏💔😢

  • @academictrailers3010
    @academictrailers3010 Рік тому +1

    Excellent work yet again! Love your videos, sad for the accidents. But hopefully all these mistakes lead to safer air travel for everyone.

  • @oeman7363
    @oeman7363 Рік тому +6

    Another great video thanks for posting great content I always look forward to your videos! :)

  • @syed22
    @syed22 Рік тому +3

    Awesome channel and video thaks!

  • @mftepera
    @mftepera Рік тому +2

    Another great presentation. Thank you.

  • @jritechnology
    @jritechnology Рік тому +1

    @GreenDotAviation thank you for your uploads.

  • @ditzygypsy
    @ditzygypsy Рік тому +6

    I could listen to you for hours. I do have a weird fascination with air disaster stories, but I would also probably watch your videos if you were talking about math. Or golf. Great video again. ❤️ from 🇨🇦.

  • @kamakaziozzie3038
    @kamakaziozzie3038 Рік тому +3

    So much love on this channel

  • @brianmuhlingBUM
    @brianmuhlingBUM Рік тому +2

    Good to see the face behind the mike, a face that deserves to be shown.
    Congratulations on a great presentation.

  • @damienhunt4264
    @damienhunt4264 Рік тому +1

    Congratulations on your excellent uploads!

  • @kurtisjack3358
    @kurtisjack3358 Рік тому +4

    Excellent work as always

  • @lostindreams5341
    @lostindreams5341 Рік тому +5

    Been waiting for this!

  • @Yoosuf.x
    @Yoosuf.x Рік тому +6

    The quality of these videos are amazing!

  • @barlowike9814
    @barlowike9814 10 місяців тому

    I didnt even know this genre of video could entertain me so much and as a result I've literally binge watched your whole channel.

  • @sailaab
    @sailaab Рік тому +4

    🤍💙👌🏽
    Very well presented and produced!
    Loved it!👍🏼

  • @noelmaher4633
    @noelmaher4633 Рік тому +4

    Some people I know (friends) went on contract to Garuda Indonesia early and late 90s from EI Airlines, wow the stories the had about maintenance and practices from that particular airline still remains with me. Literally Wing and a Prayer stuff..

  • @user-dm84
    @user-dm84 5 місяців тому

    This was harrowing. Thanks for the video!

  • @alanwilson6367
    @alanwilson6367 Рік тому

    Great video as always young fella thank you.😊

  • @user-rn5ri7nk6w
    @user-rn5ri7nk6w Рік тому +4

    Great video.❤

  • @medicicomplex
    @medicicomplex Рік тому +3

    That was heartbreaking and frustrating at the same time :( . Anyways great video as usual! I have a flight in 10 days, watching your videos doesn't make me feel scared of flying, They say ignorance is bliss but I'd rather be well informed by watching ur videos :D

  • @jaxbutterfly9186
    @jaxbutterfly9186 11 місяців тому +1

    I absolutely love your narration. You are funny. This is by far my favorite.

  • @joshbelton2689
    @joshbelton2689 Рік тому +4

    green dot did it again!

  • @jamesparlane9289
    @jamesparlane9289 Рік тому +5

    Thirty thousand hours flying and the Captain could not control the aircraft. Rule number one, keep flying the aircraft level while you look at navigation.

  • @blacko777
    @blacko777 Рік тому

    Always a treat when green dot uploads ain’t it

  • @marcdraco2189
    @marcdraco2189 10 місяців тому +1

    You remind me of the wonderful Gripper Sim with that beautiful accent and very informed reconstructions. That's a new sub for me!

  • @landychen9968
    @landychen9968 Рік тому +3

    Good video as always!