Who Named the United States? (Short Animated Documentary)

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  • @tboneforreal
    @tboneforreal 2 роки тому +1744

    Fun Fact: The "DC" in Washington, DC stands for District of Columbia so they did get to use Columbia for the name of the capital at least.

    • @stevenpeay923
      @stevenpeay923 2 роки тому +296

      And funny enough, what is now the state of Washington was going to be called "Columbia", but people were worried it would get confused with the District of Columbia. So, ironically, they named the new state Washington, an even more confusing name

    • @gustavosauro1882
      @gustavosauro1882 2 роки тому +97

      @@stevenpeay923 this fact fills me with rage

    • @uldisbergvalds1
      @uldisbergvalds1 2 роки тому +19

      @@gustavosauro1882 I agree with you

    • @BogusmanTheSwagman
      @BogusmanTheSwagman 2 роки тому +63

      Washington, Da Capital

    • @risannd
      @risannd 2 роки тому +27

      @@stevenpeay923 District of Columbia back then is composed of several cities and counties, namely Georgetown, Washington City, Washington County, Alexandria City and Alexandria County (later ceded back to Virginia). Later, these cities and counties are merged into single entity called Washington DC.

  • @undo9981
    @undo9981 3 роки тому +3091

    citizen: "what should we call or nation?"
    some guy named Fred:"I have a brilliant idea"

    • @jodofe4879
      @jodofe4879 3 роки тому +223

      Well, it worked for Romulus.

    • @1987MartinT
      @1987MartinT 3 роки тому +111

      No, Fred! We're not naming the country after you! Sit down until you have something useful to say!

    • @canadiancupcake2443
      @canadiancupcake2443 2 роки тому +56

      meanwhile Frank and Romulus

    • @ThePreciseClimber
      @ThePreciseClimber 2 роки тому +27

      @@jodofe4879 And also a certain Walt with Disneyland.

    • @jayczzzya
      @jayczzzya 2 роки тому +3

      If only he was as clever as Samuel Wilson of New York.

  • @karnickel-s33d16
    @karnickel-s33d16 3 роки тому +717

    The author Washington Irving had proposed that we rename the USA to "Appalachia" after our Eastern mountain range. This would be problematic since no one in the USA can agree on the pronunciation of the Appalachians.

    • @somebodysomewhere6770
      @somebodysomewhere6770 3 роки тому +86

      People from Appalachia say Appalachia correctly. Also I don't think Appalachia would be a good name for the US because then people would get confused trying to distinguish Appalachia the region vs. Appalachia the country.

    • @Fudz4
      @Fudz4 2 роки тому +25

      I have always liked Appalachia or 'The United States of the Appalachias'. Worth considering that it would have been the better name if you were anti expansionist and wanted to limit the Union to just the 13 states and the acquired eastern territory.

    • @BeaglzRok1
      @BeaglzRok1 2 роки тому +12

      @Bone Thug It most certainly is not. "A-puh-lay-chee-uh" is clearly correct, even if locals say "she-uh." "Appa-lacha" meanwhile sounds like something you'd get at a coffee shop.

    • @DevinMcSalty
      @DevinMcSalty 2 роки тому +3

      Only people that don’t know how to speak(mostly people with 3 teeth) say it anyway other way than the correct way.

    • @chrisklenke9681
      @chrisklenke9681 2 роки тому +16

      @@somebodysomewhere6770 people from south Appalachia say it like "app-uhl-atch-uh" and people from north Appalachia say it like "app-uh-lay-shuh"

  • @azulaquaza4916
    @azulaquaza4916 4 роки тому +2498

    Captain Fredonia: I can do this all day

    • @Crick1952
      @Crick1952 4 роки тому +66

      I want this as a Marvel What if..? comic so badly

    • @The-Samuil
      @The-Samuil 4 роки тому +169

      Fredonia sounds like one of those fake countries in the DC Universe

    • @BCrane-ej4iq
      @BCrane-ej4iq 4 роки тому +50

      @@The-Samuil You mean like Latveria from Marvel?

    • @fighterck6241
      @fighterck6241 4 роки тому +47

      I grew up in a town outside of Buffalo called Fredonia. Never much thought about it...

    • @lukesalazar9283
      @lukesalazar9283 4 роки тому +8

      @@fighterck6241 huh. Cool

  • @AFGuidesHD
    @AFGuidesHD 4 роки тому +3211

    Fredonia?
    Nah, I'm thinking more Freedomland

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri 4 роки тому +68

      How about *Fascistland* ; especially if Trump is reelected?

    • @chadkingoffuckmountain970
      @chadkingoffuckmountain970 4 роки тому +224

      @@Perririri I wouldn't call him a fascist. A big dummy, sure, but he ain't no fascist.
      Now Oswald Mosley? THAT'S a damn good fascist right there.

    • @Blu_Jay07
      @Blu_Jay07 4 роки тому +137

      @@Perririri What has Trump done that you think makes him follow the same ideology Hitler and Mussolini did?

    • @bobing1752
      @bobing1752 4 роки тому +30

      I think America has lost it monopoly for freedom for a long time now. It's no longer the land of the free

    • @bobing1752
      @bobing1752 4 роки тому +16

      @@AzaiReacts well that's a matter of opinion. I really don't think so, but you must admit that the US aren't the only place for freedom now

  • @robertwelding1633
    @robertwelding1633 3 роки тому +472

    There was already the United Provinces of the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain, so the name, United States of America, simply followed an established pattern.

    • @braziliantsar
      @braziliantsar 2 роки тому +21

      Yeah except they weren't the united states of America as a whole, but for some north american, anglo colonies, with the exception of Canada.

    • @i_likemen5614
      @i_likemen5614 2 роки тому +35

      It wasn't all of America though. It is like France calling themselves "The United States of Europe"

    • @altu9204
      @altu9204 2 роки тому +42

      @@i_likemen5614 I interpret the name more as a descriptor than an actual name; the States United which are in the Americas.

    • @georgehh2574
      @georgehh2574 2 роки тому +17

      @@i_likemen5614 Not really, it's like saying "states of America which are united"
      not
      "America's states are united"

    • @zsombortelek8411
      @zsombortelek8411 2 роки тому +5

      It was actually named the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands, United Provinces was just a nickname. But I see your point.

  • @ravenlord4
    @ravenlord4 4 роки тому +4797

    They should have named it "Atlantis" just to screw with historians and archeologists a thousand years from now.

    • @koboldparty4708
      @koboldparty4708 4 роки тому +318

      There is an Atlantis, Florida.

    • @kingofprussia17
      @kingofprussia17 4 роки тому +253

      @@koboldparty4708 And Atlanta, Georgia; which is really fucking close.

    • @jross9919
      @jross9919 4 роки тому +38

      Atlantida

    • @sirwolfnsuch
      @sirwolfnsuch 4 роки тому +193

      With the capital city El Dorado D.C.

    • @patrickcummins79
      @patrickcummins79 4 роки тому +58

      Late 18th century 4chan..

  • @merrittanimation7721
    @merrittanimation7721 4 роки тому +4101

    USA: "Columbia is a dumb name."
    Gran Colombia: "Well if you're not going use it I might as well."

    • @Ake-TL
      @Ake-TL 4 роки тому +97

      Merritt Animation USA: “F*ck!”

    • @ricardoguanipa8275
      @ricardoguanipa8275 4 роки тому +127

      Meanwhile in the former Viceroyalty of Nueva Granada: " [Colombia] , Uff pero que nombre tan Verraco pues"

    • @fischlmakesmondstadtgreata7113
      @fischlmakesmondstadtgreata7113 4 роки тому +68

      @asdf Fun fact, there is a Town in Ohio which has a Hitler Road, Hitler Park and Hitler Cemetery.

    • @hans9862
      @hans9862 4 роки тому +21

      @@fischlmakesmondstadtgreata7113 was it named before or after the rise of Adolf

    • @andreassrensen4245
      @andreassrensen4245 4 роки тому +44

      asdf, Please don’t lessen the horror of Hitler by comparing him to Columbus.

  • @ReinoldFZ
    @ReinoldFZ 2 роки тому +139

    Growing in Spanish it was confusing because the Spanish word "América" is used for "the Americas" in English, so each time it was mentioned in movies I thought it was meant in reference to the whole two land masses of South and North America, not a country. Now I use America in English for the country, and in Spanish América for the Americas. It is just how language evolves differently for very similar words, like that Simpson episode about inflammable xp

    • @thehumanoddity
      @thehumanoddity Рік тому +7

      In the US, the term North and South America is used with the separating point being Panama; and Central America being used to refer to between Mexico and Panama. I guess since "American" picked up as the demonym of the United States, the choice to separate the two in the American English language was chosen.

    • @rc1982
      @rc1982 Рік тому +7

      In (Brazilian) Poetuguese, "America" is ambigous between "the Americas" and "the USA"

    • @Nostripe361
      @Nostripe361 Рік тому +2

      @@thehumanoddity I think some of us use America for the us and use Americas when talking about the continents

    • @bigscarysteve
      @bigscarysteve Рік тому +4

      @mechupaunhuevon7662 I was born in and have lived my whole life in America, and I have never heard anybody here refer to the country as "the States." That sounds like something somebody from the UK or Ireland or Australia or New Zealand would say. I do hear people in media call the country "the United States" often (and incorrectly) enough, but in real life, everybody here calls it America.

    • @cygnals524
      @cygnals524 Рік тому +1

      @@bigscarysteve I agree & I was born, raised & lived here my entire life as well. If anything, when asked where we were born most of answer with the name of the city first then the state. So, when someone asks me where I was born I never once have answered with the US or America, I reply with Concord, NH. If someone online asks me where I am from & I know they are in another country I will say I am an American & then tell them what city & state so they know what part of the country I am from.

  • @StefanoBertacchi
    @StefanoBertacchi 4 роки тому +6261

    It's funny because in Italian, for calling Americans, we have "Statunitensi" that is literally "United Statesian" :D

    • @StefanoBertacchi
      @StefanoBertacchi 4 роки тому +132

      @Stephen Jenkins it's true, but I like and I use the other word because it is actually the correct one :)

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT 4 роки тому +287

      Just call us Yankees

    • @steveperez178
      @steveperez178 4 роки тому +416

      @@chaosXP3RT Please, no one do this.

    • @SoooooWhatt
      @SoooooWhatt 4 роки тому +362

      As an English-speaking American that is taking a Spanish class, I have heard a similar Spanish word for inhabitants of the United States: "estadounidense", which also literally means "United Statesian", but is supposed to be translated as "American". Additionally, the term "Americano" (male) or "Americana" (female) is used to refer to an inhabitant of the landmass "América", which is counted by Spanish speakers as one continent, but by English speakers as two continents: North America and South America.

    • @DylanDude
      @DylanDude 4 роки тому +68

      The “correct” version would be the one actually used in the United States, wouldn’t it?

  • @kulera
    @kulera 4 роки тому +1756

    Mexico’s official name is “The United Mexican States”. There has been small talk to simply change it to “The Republic of Mexico” or just simply “Mexico” but it’s just easier to keep things as they are even though no one calls it by its official name.
    Fun fact: Colombia’s official name was “The United States of Colombia” for a short period before becoming “Republic of Colombia” and changing its states to departments.

    • @537monster
      @537monster 4 роки тому +154

      It would feel kind of weird to read an official document from Mexico and just see “Mexico” on top.
      It just sounds wrong. Countries normally like to state their government type first.
      Like the Republic of Korea or the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It just seems more official that way.

    • @spencerhahn1635
      @spencerhahn1635 4 роки тому +113

      Canada is "The Dominion of Canada", and "The Dominion" or "Our Dominion" were once intelligible synonyms for the country. "Canada Day" was "Dominion Day" until the eighties, and you can still see some old storefronts, trucks, brands etc. with names like "Dominion Grocery" or whatever, and one of our largest banks is still called Toronto Dominion.

    • @schadenfreude000
      @schadenfreude000 4 роки тому +52

      I'm a translator and it's always weird to have to write "United Mexican States" on the top of official documents.

    • @kulera
      @kulera 4 роки тому +25

      Nigel Appleby It’s United Mexican States not United States of Mexico

    • @schadenfreude000
      @schadenfreude000 4 роки тому +7

      @@kulera True, that was a typo.

  • @merouln700
    @merouln700 3 роки тому +315

    While the people of the USA are referred as "américains" in French, things that are related to the country itself can sometimes be referred as "états-uniens" which is literally "united statesian".

    • @kannonball5789
      @kannonball5789 2 роки тому +6

      If you are referring to the nation itself as the Untied States would it not be Les États-Unis?

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 2 роки тому +9

      I will henceforth refer to the French as Republicans

    • @jaciel610
      @jaciel610 2 роки тому +16

      @@spartanx9293 no, also France is not taking the name from a continent.
      It’d be confusing to call themselves Europeans, if they were the “republic of Europe” or “the United States of Europe”

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 2 роки тому +8

      @@jaciel610 the United States was the first independent country of European descent founded in North America can you name a single other country that meets these qualifications the general rule you also follow what the people living in the country call themselves we call ourselves Americans and we don't give two s**** what other people think if they don't like it tough they should have founded their country before us

    • @jaciel610
      @jaciel610 2 роки тому

      @@spartanx9293 ah your comment is a complete USA stereotype “we don’t give two S** about (what) other people”.
      That says a lot, enjoy your big ego, bye.

  • @KitchenSinkSoup
    @KitchenSinkSoup 4 роки тому +3016

    Fredonia is the most American name for something I've heard though.

    • @geesixnine
      @geesixnine 4 роки тому +244

      "The Freeds" lol

    • @josephleonard6695
      @josephleonard6695 4 роки тому +152

      Fredonia
      or Oilandia
      or Democrazia
      or Republicana

    • @JohnDoe-py3rc
      @JohnDoe-py3rc 4 роки тому +49

      yeah cause it's fucking dumb

    • @OptimusWombat
      @OptimusWombat 4 роки тому +73

      Sounds like something Trump would come up with.

    • @raspberry3701
      @raspberry3701 4 роки тому +86

      I think MURICA is the most American name.

  • @dna0303
    @dna0303 4 роки тому +3481

    USA: *Tries to change name to Colombia
    *That username is already taken*

    • @the0ne809
      @the0ne809 4 роки тому +27

      Someone already patented a similar name. Sorry. Lol

    • @nadie516
      @nadie516 4 роки тому +126

      Not only the name was taken, the country that used it was name "the great columbia". Pro gamer move against the unitedstatians

    • @Darkfawfulx
      @Darkfawfulx 4 роки тому +31

      Well there are two Congos....

    • @grantorino2325
      @grantorino2325 4 роки тому +49

      Columbia, not "Colombia."
      And while most people preferred "America" as our country's name, "Hail Columbia" became our national anthem for a few short years, the waterway that led Lewis and Clark to the Pacific got christened the "Columbia River," our nation's capital was baptized "the District of Columbia," and "King's University" in New York City was renamed "Columbia University."

    • @mikespearwood3914
      @mikespearwood3914 4 роки тому +14

      @@grantorino2325 Literally the same thing except for spelling.

  • @MHLegacy
    @MHLegacy 2 роки тому +38

    (2:52) Also, prior to the American Civil War, "United States" was generally treated as a plural noun (e.g. "these United States") whereas after the Civil War, it was more commonly treated as a singular noun ("the United States").

  • @ricardoguanipa8275
    @ricardoguanipa8275 4 роки тому +1026

    Alternative universe where Freedonia Stuck and all pop music developped the same:
    Bruce Springsteen - Born In Freedonia
    Miley Cirus - Party in Freedonia
    Green day - Freedonian Idiot
    Don McLean - Freedonian Pie
    Hulk Hogan's theme - I wanna be a Freedonia

  • @ivanivanofivansson8551
    @ivanivanofivansson8551 4 роки тому +9383

    Fredonia... Sounds like a minecraft village made by 12 year olds.

    • @johnsphpaulin1162
      @johnsphpaulin1162 4 роки тому +570

      True, but so would any other nations name if hadn't been adopted. Imagine living in a world where France still called itself Gaul and hearing France for the first time.

    • @mbogucki1
      @mbogucki1 4 роки тому +207

      @@johnsphpaulin1162 Gaul would be an awesome name. Gauls win wars, French do not. 😂
      But to be honest I always like Francia vs. France.

    • @kevinboros7427
      @kevinboros7427 4 роки тому +352

      @@mbogucki1 France actually has the greatest military record of all time.

    • @johnsphpaulin1162
      @johnsphpaulin1162 4 роки тому +297

      @@kevinboros7427 yeah, but they lost to that one guy with the weird mustache. So clearly they're incapable of ever winning the war ever again.

    • @johnsphpaulin1162
      @johnsphpaulin1162 4 роки тому +108

      @@mbogucki1 but the Gauls didn't win there Wars, that's why it was a Roman province for most of its existence

  • @JBaum55
    @JBaum55 Рік тому +55

    I guess another point to make is that before the Civil War, and especially in the early years after the Revolution, many Americans viewed their identities by their states first rather than by the larger country (I.e. Someone would consider themself a Virginianan or New Yorker before an American). This identity weven related to how people referred to the country, calling them *these* United States rather than *the* United States. I'd imagine part of why the naming came and stuck was because many would consider the idea of a United States peoples and the naming of a single group as not being as important as their own individual identities, or felt it devalued those local ones.

    • @ETS186
      @ETS186 Рік тому +1

      Except for a New Yorker or Texan 😂

    • @dhowe5180
      @dhowe5180 Рік тому +2

      I think that’s still the case for many parts of the US. Here in Washington State many people have a firm identity as a Washingtonian just as much as an American.

    • @eq1373
      @eq1373 Рік тому +1

      They still do

    • @diegoxavier9107
      @diegoxavier9107 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@dhowe5180It's honestly a really cool part of living in the US. And because of how huge and diverse the country is, you can even find racial differences depending on where you are. People of Western European descent in the North, Latinos in the South/Southwest, Asians on both coasts. Pretty neat

  • @corporalzeph2518
    @corporalzeph2518 4 роки тому +2480

    Missed opportunity to have named the continent after Amerigo's last name, because then we'd be called "the United States of Vespucci" which is more badass

    • @doug814
      @doug814 4 роки тому +145

      Yea that is pretty badass

    • @kristijanEX
      @kristijanEX 4 роки тому +611

      I can already see all the shit rappers rhyming Vespucci with Gucci.

    • @excho
      @excho 4 роки тому +383

      I can already hear Hispanophones from the alternate universe mockingly nicknaming it "Vesputa".

    • @bengahzijr.4293
      @bengahzijr.4293 4 роки тому +136

      And we would be called “Vespuccians”.

    • @warrcoww6717
      @warrcoww6717 4 роки тому +119

      And in LA they’d have Amerigo Beach...

  • @samaritan3712
    @samaritan3712 4 роки тому +3584

    Obviously the United States's parents named them like that, duh.

    • @romulusnuma116
      @romulusnuma116 4 роки тому +180

      Would the parents in this case be Britain and France?

    • @blueangel4ever370
      @blueangel4ever370 4 роки тому +123

      And now the US is taking over Daddy Britains business of manipulating and controlling countries. Yay

    • @potatominded1370
      @potatominded1370 4 роки тому +40

      Panteleimon Ponomarenko Oh my god! It’s Panteleimon Ponomarenko!

    • @kykokyko6677
      @kykokyko6677 4 роки тому +6

      *States'

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 4 роки тому +40

      @@blueangel4ever370 I mean other every nation has done that at some point. Even in modern times France help manipulated the Libyan Civil War’s outcome.

  • @Hotshot2k4
    @Hotshot2k4 3 роки тому +89

    Oh, so that's why Bioshock Infinite's floating town was called "Columbia"

  • @andpat1432
    @andpat1432 4 роки тому +350

    Nice touch adding the lipstick marks to Ben Franklin’s face 1:04

    • @thebutzel9752
      @thebutzel9752 4 роки тому +22

      Andrew Patane Ah, so that’s who it was. That makes a crap ton sense now that you said that

    • @appleslover
      @appleslover 4 роки тому +15

      Why so?

    • @3bydacreekside
      @3bydacreekside 4 роки тому +75

      @@appleslover The dude loved to flirt, fuck, and freak the fuck out everyone.

    • @hfar_in_the_sky
      @hfar_in_the_sky 4 роки тому +78

      @@appleslover Benjamin Franklin was quite the lady's man during his time (to a somewhat notorious degree) and even into his 50s still got women fawning over him wherever he went. His list of purported trysts is honestly rather impressive.

    • @ottovonbismarckboi9112
      @ottovonbismarckboi9112 4 роки тому +23

      Hfar he must of had a big PP

  • @aliensinnoh1
    @aliensinnoh1 4 роки тому +9155

    “No one would call themselves United Statesian”
    People who speak Spanish: *sweat nervously*

    • @OMGitshimitis
      @OMGitshimitis 4 роки тому +429

      Can you explain for someone who doesn't speak Spanish?

    • @varana
      @varana 4 роки тому +2171

      @@OMGitshimitis One of the Spanish words for US Americans is "estadounidense", from estado = state and unido = united, so quite literally "unitedstatesian". (Just the other way around, as usual in Spanish.)

    • @emptank
      @emptank 4 роки тому +882

      Eh, better than just gringo i guess.

    • @Eliasdefi
      @Eliasdefi 4 роки тому +351

      We also use yankis for you.

    • @aliensinnoh1
      @aliensinnoh1 4 роки тому +211

      @@Eliasdefi Sad Red Sox fan noises.

  • @Cyrus87
    @Cyrus87 3 роки тому +157

    I’ve read somewhere that the origin of the name “America” deriving from Amerigo Vespucci is actually disputed. I know it’s taught in schools, and is mostly considered to be the truth now. Some historians have posited that it actually got its name from a trader in Bristol called “William Ap Meric”. Some of the reasoning behind this is because when land was claimed by settlers it was common to use the last name of the company that owned the boat.
    Not staying it as fact, just thought it was interesting and wanted to share.

    • @MaylocBrittinorum
      @MaylocBrittinorum 2 роки тому +37

      It was actually Richard ap Meryk (or Richard Amerike in English), a merchant of Welsh origin. However, given that the Waldseemüller map (the first record of the name "America") used the name only to refer to modern South America (explored by Vespucci) while Richard's expedition explored North America, it's unlikely (not impossible, of course, but in matters of history you can rarely be 100% sure of anything).

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis 2 роки тому +2

      @Room 315 : Were the mountains already called that at the time?

    • @TommygunNG
      @TommygunNG 2 роки тому +5

      It was Vespucci.
      But here's one theory a Jewish historian who adhered to Anglo-Israelist doctrine suggested: A Greek word for "worry" is "meros" or something like that. Since this is to be a land of opportunity, it would with "without worry," or "a-meros." ==> "America."
      There's no evidence for this whatsoever, regardless of your opinion of Anglo-Israelism. But the other alternatives are little more than people desperately trying to come up with an alternative just to be funny.

    • @samuelnakai1804
      @samuelnakai1804 2 роки тому +18

      All that I'm getting from these discussions is that multiple acts of providence shows that these continents were always destined to be called America.

    • @TommygunNG
      @TommygunNG 2 роки тому +7

      @@samuelnakai1804 It does make one wonder.

  • @w5527
    @w5527 4 роки тому +836

    Always my favorite flag cause “Stars, yo.”

  • @Zapranoth-lf8nt
    @Zapranoth-lf8nt 4 роки тому +393

    Little known tidbit: before the Civil War, it was much more common to refer to the United States in the plural..."The United States ARE...", while after the Civil War, it became standard to say "The United States IS..."

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 4 роки тому +37

      In The Madness of King George (set five years after the Revolutionary War), PM William Pitt says to George III "They are now called the United States, sir." George III replies, "Are they? Goodness me!"

    • @dennisswaney644
      @dennisswaney644 4 роки тому +24

      That is because Lincoln succeeded in destroying the FEDERAL system the Founders created which resulted in a CENTRALIZED national government that most of the Founders did NOT want!. Also when referring to just the national government or being referred to by an outsider, the singular "THE" is used; when referring to the group of states internally then the plural "THESE" can be used. Examples: "I'm traveling to THE United States"; "I'm traveling in THESE United States".

    • @benn454
      @benn454 4 роки тому +91

      @@dennisswaney644 Look at this poor schmuck still trying to fight the Civil War. Sad.

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari 3 роки тому +37

      @@dennisswaney644 Well if you're saying "I'm traveling to THE United States" than THESE isn't really appropriate. It would have to be "I'm traveling to THOSE United States."

    • @Delgen1951
      @Delgen1951 3 роки тому

      @@Jotari use the right tense.

  • @kungfuskull
    @kungfuskull 3 роки тому +521

    As an american: I kinda wish, even jokingly, that we sometimes called ourselves Fredonians and Fredes 🤣

    • @ErikPT
      @ErikPT 3 роки тому +20

      Nah then we’d equate to Swedes and Finish lol

    • @davecullins1606
      @davecullins1606 3 роки тому +13

      Honestly, I'd sound stupid to me.

    • @StanbyMode
      @StanbyMode 3 роки тому +7

      @@davecullins1606 not to me

    • @juwebles4352
      @juwebles4352 3 роки тому +42

      Make your own reality, gaslight people into believing that fredonia is real and you are a fredish person, reality is but a thin malleable film.

    • @taxinvasion260
      @taxinvasion260 3 роки тому +12

      I mean we'd get less shit about using "America" to refer to our country from everyone else in the Americas...

  • @Digephil
    @Digephil 4 роки тому +53

    Honestly not a bad idea for a whole series, the stories behind many countries' and states' names are very interesting.

  • @knazibaz
    @knazibaz 4 роки тому +67

    I love how History Matters just makes really interesting documentaries about things you never even knew you wondered about.

  • @dylanselhorst7608
    @dylanselhorst7608 Рік тому +5

    I love you so much. Your videos rock and you rock. I watch these videos every time I find myself in the restroom (water closet, or whatever) and that’s not meant as an insult.
    I’m an American student of history who has watched your videos since I have no idea when and I love them so, so much. Keep it up you rock.

  • @LevisaProductions
    @LevisaProductions 4 роки тому +118

    Funnily enough, there is a Fredonia, New York.
    (I would know, I got a flat tire there).

    • @brycelandon6387
      @brycelandon6387 4 роки тому +15

      And a Fredonia, Iowa, and a Fredonia, Kansas.

    • @person3070
      @person3070 2 роки тому

      And Fredonia, Arizona

  • @stevenjlovelace
    @stevenjlovelace 4 роки тому +174

    While "Fredonia" seems like a dumb name nowadays, it's interesting that your example of a non-named country has the same meaning. The Franks were an ancient Germanic tribe whose name (possibly) mean "Free", as in the modern expression, "Let me be frank (free/candid) with you." So France also means "land of the free" in a roundabout way.

    • @buddermonger2000
      @buddermonger2000 2 роки тому +16

      So... having gone over it, they're actually more likely to have been named after their weapon "Frankon" (which looked a lot like a javelin) in a process similar to the Saxons (after a dagger they called a "sahson" now called a seax). However, within the Gallo-Romance language "francus" Took the meaning "free" as they were exempt from the laws and thus "free" of them. It turned into the old French "franc" and from there also took on the meaning "noble" later on for the more obvious reason that well... the nobles were Franks.

  • @carolynthomas3938
    @carolynthomas3938 3 роки тому +8

    The thumbnail mentions it but he left it out in the video. Usona is an acronym of United States of North America, which is really cool. The name Usono for the US is used in Esperanto, a constructed language made in the 1890s.

  • @toniponix
    @toniponix 4 роки тому +751

    Hamilton: "What are you gonna do, shoot me?"
    Burr: *sweats nervoulsy*

    • @smc1942
      @smc1942 3 роки тому +14

      Burr; Oh, why not?

    • @SteventheOrigin
      @SteventheOrigin 3 роки тому +3

      Hamilton: _cleans glasses_

    • @REDKRAKEN18
      @REDKRAKEN18 2 роки тому +2

      A place in Canada got named after Alexander Hamilton

    • @alexanderrobins7497
      @alexanderrobins7497 2 роки тому +1

      Arron Burr: "So anyway I start blasting."

    • @editorcj
      @editorcj 2 роки тому +1

      The world was wide enough

  • @JazenValencia
    @JazenValencia 4 роки тому +184

    Every July 4th my British friend Josh says Happy Treason day. lol

    • @ErikPT
      @ErikPT 3 роки тому +5

      Odd I call my mate in East Coast on thanksgiving a festive day! Though, he’s more cheeky on 4th of July lol

    • @thomaspickard4138
      @thomaspickard4138 3 роки тому +4

      😂😂😂

  • @blackhawk4ful
    @blackhawk4ful 3 роки тому +771

    “No one would call themselves United Statesian”
    latin americans: *allow us to introduce ourselves*

    • @paraguayopromedio123
      @paraguayopromedio123 3 роки тому +21

      Well in Spain is also called United Statesian (in Spanish/Castillian Estadounidense)

    • @jiraffe9600
      @jiraffe9600 3 роки тому +34

      I’m mean, he said themselves.

    • @MrMackievelli
      @MrMackievelli 3 роки тому +23

      That's great and all but they don't live in the USA. We call ourselves what we want.
      Thing is unless we are in another country we usually refer to ourselves by our states(I'm Kansas or Arizona etc).

    • @MrMackievelli
      @MrMackievelli 3 роки тому +1

      @Xavier Lekubarri no, our constitution would never allow it.

    • @OneHandedClapper
      @OneHandedClapper 3 роки тому +5

      @@MrMackievelli what do you mean they don't live in the US if they are almost 20% of the population. That's even bigger than the black population (~13%) for reference.

  • @mundogameplay1341
    @mundogameplay1341 4 роки тому +188

    Fredonians....It seems like something of the Hobbit Movie

    • @Zephaniah700
      @Zephaniah700 4 роки тому +14

      Or the Marx brothers'.

    • @TJDious
      @TJDious 4 роки тому +7

      @@Zephaniah700 His excellency's car!

    • @grovercleveland8572
      @grovercleveland8572 4 роки тому

      or despicable me 3

    • @509Gman
      @509Gman 3 роки тому +3

      @@Zephaniah700 I’m so sad that i had to scroll this far to find the “Duck Soup” reference recognition

    • @boldandbrash259
      @boldandbrash259 3 роки тому

      Or Lotr

  • @brucecarter5450
    @brucecarter5450 4 роки тому +327

    "Alexander Hamilton: What are ya gonna do, shoot me?"

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 4 роки тому +16

      Denzel Washington whoops out his pistol from American Gangster

    • @mezene99
      @mezene99 4 роки тому +20

      @@Spongebrain97 *Fredonian gangster

    • @nebulaone908
      @nebulaone908 4 роки тому +8

      Don't worry, he can Alexander handle it.

    • @spk1121
      @spk1121 4 роки тому +4

      @@nebulaone908: A Jacksfilms fan, I see

  • @Verelkia
    @Verelkia 3 роки тому +26

    Another name that was purposed was actually "United States of Appalachia", named after the Appalachian Mountains, a mountain range where the first colonies were. Honestly like that name a lot more, because "America" is way too associated with the continents, and Appalachia feels more like a specific thing to the United States. Plus its catchy, and we can keep the "USA" thing. 🇺🇸
    There was even a purposely to make the pacific states their own nation (Washington, Oregon, part of California, and a part of British Columbia that was owned by the United States). Its name was gonna be "State Of The Pacific" but could have also the name "Cascadia", named after the Cascade Range.

  • @jesseberg3271
    @jesseberg3271 4 роки тому +170

    "Hail, hail Fredonia, land of the brave and free!"

    • @johnaucamp7106
      @johnaucamp7106 4 роки тому +18

      Had to scroll a long way down to find someone who posted this reference...

    • @cgaccount3669
      @cgaccount3669 4 роки тому +2

      Except for the slaves lol. Well, everyone else banned slavery long ago so why not call the USA ketchup? Like catch up... to the rest of the world lol

    • @johnaucamp7106
      @johnaucamp7106 4 роки тому +19

      @@cgaccount3669 The above reference is to the 1933 movie Duck Soup, which was set in a country called Fredonia.

    • @KolchaksGhost
      @KolchaksGhost 4 роки тому

      CG Account Russia: *SERFISM INTENSIFIES*

    • @Cliff_Dixon_42
      @Cliff_Dixon_42 4 роки тому +5

      JOIN THE ARMY AND SEE THE NAVY

  • @ace1776
    @ace1776 4 роки тому +529

    Fredonia? Everybody would just start calling us “ the freddys” and think of it “death to fredonia”, just doesn’t sound right.

  • @kauffner
    @kauffner 4 роки тому +8

    John Adams used "United Colonies" in a resolution he proposed on March 14, 1775. "United States of America" first appears in a draft of the Articles of Confederation by John Dickinson which circulated beginning June 17, 1776. In Jefferson's "original Rough draught" of the Declaration of Independence, he wrote it as "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." This draft circulated beginning June 21. This was apparently a bit much for some members of Congress. In the July 4th version of the declaration, it was toned down to "united States of America." I don't think anyone was going to change the name after it appeared in the declaration, even with the "u" lower cased. But all the same, Congress passed a resolution on September 9 to officially change the name of the country from "United Colonies" to "United States."

    • @daviddorsett7550
      @daviddorsett7550 Рік тому

      It is my understanding that the way English was written at that time nouns were capitalized and adjectives were not. That is why the name was written as "the united States of America" in the Declaration of Independence; but usage was inconsistent. Later in the Declaration the term "United Colonies" was used with both words capitalized.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 4 роки тому +204

    0:58 That’s a red stache, he’s a comrade

    • @sg27182
      @sg27182 4 роки тому +13

      Did you comment on the Drew Durnill video?
      "Missouri has a lot of Italians in the St Louis area, I knew it would be something Italian or ribs."

    • @ruthenium5765
      @ruthenium5765 4 роки тому +1

      @Silas Griffin he comments on a lot of videos

    • @plasmacatbooks4245
      @plasmacatbooks4245 4 роки тому

      Of course kim Jung un would notice that

  • @Kerriangel
    @Kerriangel 4 роки тому +864

    "We're out Nerds."
    The collapse of the British Empire in a nutshell

    • @Vienna3080
      @Vienna3080 4 роки тому +35

      Add a few dead bodies and boats and it’s accurate

    • @PedroAntonio0796
      @PedroAntonio0796 4 роки тому +46

      Actually, British Empire became even bigger after it.

    • @Udontkno7
      @Udontkno7 4 роки тому +1

      Pedro Antonio Blanco Villar they’re talking about the whole.

    • @bigmanjorge
      @bigmanjorge 4 роки тому

      @@Vienna3080 and the several masscres

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 4 роки тому +1

      The British are snobs not nerds

  • @vercingetorix3414
    @vercingetorix3414 3 роки тому +9

    The Earliest known use of the term, "United States of America", was in a letter written by General Stephen Moylan in January of 1776, thus predating the use of that term in the Declaration of Independence later that same year.

  • @Ethredge27
    @Ethredge27 4 роки тому +43

    I want a shirt for 4th of July with that “stars, yo” flag on it

  • @OptimusWombat
    @OptimusWombat 4 роки тому +27

    Freedonia (with two "e") was featured in the Marx Brothers' "Duck Soup".

    • @rastalique8114
      @rastalique8114 3 роки тому +1

      Sadly, that movie predicted the break up of Yugoslavia.

  • @Augustus-mk1du
    @Augustus-mk1du 3 роки тому +149

    “No one would call themselves United Statesian”
    who the heck would call themselves fredonians

    • @Psychol-Snooper
      @Psychol-Snooper 2 роки тому +38

      Followers of Fred.

    • @Steeyuv
      @Steeyuv 2 роки тому +12

      The Marx Brothers - who actually did that, their film Duck Soup.

    • @JackHankeAnd
      @JackHankeAnd 2 роки тому +17

      Honestly it sounds like an actual nationality. I unironically wish it had stuck; I’m sick of hearing people argue about whether Americans are hubristic for calling themselves “Americans” despite being only a part of the American continents.

    • @diegoxavier9107
      @diegoxavier9107 2 роки тому +10

      @@JackHankeAnd It's kind of a dumb argument, really. Like, what else would they call themselves? Statesmen?
      That's actually a pretty cool name, now that I think about it. A tad confusing, but meh. Still, anything other than "American" that's derived from the name of the country would sound incredibly awkward in English

    • @Raphie009
      @Raphie009 2 роки тому

      I've started calling us "Statesmen" specifically due to what Jack Hanke mentioned above. People in the U.S. being referred to as "Americans" exacerbates the already present eclipsing of Latin America and the Caribbean.

  • @pridelander06
    @pridelander06 4 роки тому +71

    Your last sentence involving the Civil War reminds me of a quote from historian Shelby Foote which went along the lines of:
    "Before the war, you'd say 'These United States are,' and after the war, you'd say 'The United States is.' The war made us an 'Is'."
    So I appreciate that coda very much.

  • @ricardoguanipa8275
    @ricardoguanipa8275 4 роки тому +504

    "The Freedish"

    • @Itisjustasaganow
      @Itisjustasaganow 4 роки тому +8

      Sounds like French

    • @Iason29
      @Iason29 4 роки тому +62

      @@Itisjustasaganow i was thinking of sweden

    • @chemi169
      @chemi169 4 роки тому +12

      @@Iason29 Frede also sounds like Swede

    • @obitwokenobi9808
      @obitwokenobi9808 4 роки тому +4

      Sounds like a candy.

    • @nickmcgargill6216
      @nickmcgargill6216 4 роки тому +4

      The South would not approve at the time.

  • @Esprix
    @Esprix Рік тому +5

    Is that Ben Franklin covered in kisses at @1:03? LOL

  • @cursedex3755
    @cursedex3755 4 роки тому +238

    History Matters: "This nation is called the United States Of America"
    King George III: *Angry colonising sound*

    • @DaveMiller6042
      @DaveMiller6042 4 роки тому +11

      Laughs in American.

    • @paniniweewee5857
      @paniniweewee5857 4 роки тому +7

      the war of the 2 Georges

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 4 роки тому +1

      It is a bit backwards. They were colonies _before_ "Farmer" George III.
      They became independent thanks to a loan from Louis XVI which they never paid back.

    • @annyeonghaseyothisfight5897
      @annyeonghaseyothisfight5897 4 роки тому

      Angry beef plant sound

    • @ErikPT
      @ErikPT 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidwuhrer6704 not until we entered WW I and II though we still owe France money lol, no wonder Macron issued digital taxes on us.

  • @HigHrvatski
    @HigHrvatski 4 роки тому +31

    Amerigo Vespucci put the little bumps for the mountains on the map.

  • @davidreichert9392
    @davidreichert9392 3 роки тому +4

    Great video. It would be good to see more videos on the origin of country names. Or even cities / provinces etc.

  • @ilFrancotti
    @ilFrancotti 4 роки тому +383

    The official name of a citizen from USA in Italian is "Statunitensi" but most call them "Americani" - Americans.

    • @yoavmor9002
      @yoavmor9002 4 роки тому +10

      Gives translation to Americani but doesn't give translation to Statunitensi
      Sidenote: It's clear what it means, don't bother editing a translation in.

    • @ilFrancotti
      @ilFrancotti 4 роки тому +22

      @@yoavmor9002 I didn't because it doesn't exist in English.

    • @Max15691
      @Max15691 4 роки тому +50

      In Latin America , we call them "estadounidenses" wich is basically "unitedstatians". We use the word "americanos" for any people from America, the whole continent, almost never referring to the people of USA.

    • @garabic8688
      @garabic8688 4 роки тому +14

      @Max15 so us over in the United States refer to ourselves as Americans and our country we call the United States or just America.

    • @ilFrancotti
      @ilFrancotti 4 роки тому +33

      @@Max15691 that would be the correct way. But calling someone from Mexico, Brazil, Argentina or even Canada "American" would feel very weird and misleading for us.

  • @sviatoslavs.1305
    @sviatoslavs.1305 4 роки тому +233

    Ok, gents, now whenever this channel mentions US in any video, we shall refer it as "Fredonia" just for memes (like that death sound).

  • @Абдулло-щ3е9э
    @Абдулло-щ3е9э 3 роки тому +11

    "Columbia"
    User name is already taken.
    "xX_Columbia_Xx"
    Username confirmed.

  • @brunopastorini1248
    @brunopastorini1248 4 роки тому +8

    Besides having adopted the name 'Columbia', interestingly there's a city in Colombia called 'Fredonia', which for some reason also uses the flag of Bulgaria.

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 4 роки тому

      Фръдония

  • @MaharoMaharo
    @MaharoMaharo 4 роки тому +78

    2:24 Alexander Hamilton "What are you going to do, shoot me?"
    This

    • @smc1942
      @smc1942 3 роки тому +2

      Burr; "oh, alright. If it'll shut you up."

  • @Pyrospriter042
    @Pyrospriter042 4 роки тому +9

    Fredonia, NY out here like "I think that would've been a GREAT name for the country!"

  • @aotoda486
    @aotoda486 4 роки тому +30

    1:03 oh, Franklin...

  • @amhattami
    @amhattami 4 роки тому +14

    imagine the us was named fredonia
    "hey, haven't seen you around for awhile"
    "yeah, i've just come back from fred"

  • @trupizza671
    @trupizza671 3 роки тому +38

    The United States of America is a very poetic name in my opinion. It says exactly what it is: a Union of States from America. Plus, it just sounds downright awesome to say.

    • @BigBoss-sm9xj
      @BigBoss-sm9xj 3 роки тому +4

      Lol very cool to say

    • @drksideofthewal
      @drksideofthewal Рік тому +8

      Americans tend not to realize that “state” means “country” to most people outside the US. It’s actually pretty badass that the name implies a Voltron of countries.

    • @kingkayfabe5358
      @kingkayfabe5358 4 місяці тому

      ​@@drksideofthewal not really. A state is just a territory that is autonomous with its own government. It can be a country or a subdivision of a country.

  • @hhill2880
    @hhill2880 4 роки тому +12

    Your icon came up and I didn't even have to think about it
    Your UA-cam has become an impulsive addiction of mine
    And I thank you for your work

  • @stanklepoot
    @stanklepoot 4 роки тому +22

    "Turns out you suck" is the perfect sign when you think about just how quickly they went from being colonists who were proud to call themselves British, to a nation determined to rid themselves of British rule and become independent. Historically speaking, it's the blink of an eye, really.

  • @rags417
    @rags417 3 роки тому +9

    Another interesting fact - until the 1830s the US was the term used to refer to the collection of states that made it up, after that it was generally considered to be its own entity. What this meant in practice was that the phrase "the United States of America ARE..." changed into "the Unite States of America IS...".

  • @Weesel71
    @Weesel71 4 роки тому +24

    And the national dish would have to be Duck Soup.

  • @77777Spooky
    @77777Spooky 4 роки тому +8

    "What are ya gonna do? Shoot me?" The shade under those trees, damn.

  • @ohger1
    @ohger1 Рік тому

    I just LOVE the understated British humor that runs throughout these videos. Cheers from the Colonies!

  • @EvansdiAl
    @EvansdiAl 4 роки тому +145

    clicked faster than americo vespucci saying THIS MY LAND

    • @sviatoslavs.1305
      @sviatoslavs.1305 4 роки тому +6

      Pretending to be a smartass, I see?
      Ok.

    • @warbler1984
      @warbler1984 4 роки тому +7

      He was a cartographer...not a claimer of lands

    • @lorisuprifranz
      @lorisuprifranz 4 роки тому +2

      His name was Amerigo with the g, still a better name than Colombia since Amerigo was the first to understand that America was a continent on itself ( by exploring South America, so little connections to the usa)

    • @EvansdiAl
      @EvansdiAl 4 роки тому +1

      @@lorisuprifranz In Spanish it is spelled with a C

    • @lorisuprifranz
      @lorisuprifranz 4 роки тому +1

      @@EvansdiAl Ok but he was Genoese, so it's original spelling was with the g

  • @pj.sinclair
    @pj.sinclair 3 роки тому +9

    1:45 i have never seen a more cursed-looking United States in my life

    • @Ramosway2
      @Ramosway2 2 роки тому

      Well the uk and usa owned the Oregon territory at the same time but it dis not like the map

  • @Tracer_Krieg
    @Tracer_Krieg 2 роки тому +5

    There was one more name that came up during the 20th Century: Usonia. First coined by architect Frank Lloyd Wright, he used it to refer specifically to the United States in difference to the other North American nations and it's own brand of architecture. He has used it to referred to his particular idea of changing the overall architecture of the nation, and proposed it's use to better describe the USA.
    Fun fact: the name was used for the alternative American nation of the Federal Union of Usonia in the Dieselpunk game Iron Harvest, with a fundamentally different early history in the form of a bloodier war of independence (of which Canada sided with the Colonies), the earlier collapse of American slavery, an alternative civil war occurring with the Pacific States such as California in the 1870's, and no national involvement in the Great War... and also armored airships and helicopters are in service in the 1920's.

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus 2 роки тому

      How is Iron Harvest?

  • @theweirdofengland
    @theweirdofengland 4 роки тому +6

    Interesting that the Declaration of Independence describes it as the "united States of America", a bit like the "united Kingdom of Great Britain" contained in the Acts of Union. In both cases the "u" was uncapitalised, but while the Kingdom of Great Britain wouldn't properly become the "United Kingdom" until union with Ireland a hundred years after the Acts, the "United States" somehow quickly became capitalised and official.

  • @cacline72
    @cacline72 4 роки тому +9

    Teacher: What are you laughing at?
    Me: Nothing
    My Head: United Statesians

  • @Lloyd_lyle
    @Lloyd_lyle 3 роки тому +8

    Hamilton’s last words: *“what are you gonna do? Shoot me!”* lol 2:23

  • @captainimperialism4568
    @captainimperialism4568 4 роки тому +24

    Bonus fact about the name “Fredonia”, it was the name chosen by the first Anglo Texans who tried to secede from Mexico. While incredibly short-lived and not supported by any other Anglo Texans, it did actually inspire later rebellions because of the actions taken by the Mexican government afterwards such as cutting off immigration from the US and increasing military presence.

  • @paradoxequinox4104
    @paradoxequinox4104 4 роки тому +7

    2:23
    That grave man...
    Alexander Hamilton- "What are you gonna do, shoot me?"

  • @somebuddyX
    @somebuddyX 3 роки тому +5

    Fredonia sounds like it's the United States' counterpart from Grand Theft Auto.

  • @DaComebakKid
    @DaComebakKid Рік тому +3

    Fredonia sounds like a Grand Theft Auto city parodying Washington, DC

  • @claytonbrooks4826
    @claytonbrooks4826 3 роки тому +9

    I still love "Usono" in Esperanto

  • @itsgodnga
    @itsgodnga 4 роки тому +1

    I always love the little bits in the background like graffiti on portraits or Ben Franklin walking about covered in kisses

    • @davegreenlaw5654
      @davegreenlaw5654 3 роки тому

      I was scrolling through the comments here just waiting for someone to finally mention Ol' Ben with the lipstick smeared all over his face. 😁

  • @colinvega7618
    @colinvega7618 3 роки тому +3

    lol 1:03 Hamilton leaving after getting smooched and 2:25 his grave after getting shot in a duel and not expecting the other dude to shoot

  • @fard6703
    @fard6703 2 роки тому +18

    The name “Fredonia” would go on to appear inside of the Fredonian Rebellion of 1826, the first ever revolt of the people of Texas against their Mexican rulers. The event was led by an empresario by the name of Haden Edwards. It was the first step towards Texas independence.

  • @williamsledge3151
    @williamsledge3151 3 роки тому +5

    When Iron Harvest had their U.S themed DLC, I thought it would be cool to name it "the Federal Union of Fredonia" because of alternate name. Usonia is fine but i think Fredonia would have been better because of the historical context

  • @emizerri
    @emizerri 4 роки тому +4

    I was literally thinking this last night, I guess UA-cam is listening to my thoughts now

  • @alanparker9608
    @alanparker9608 4 роки тому +4

    Amerigo Vespucci
    America is named after Amerigo Vespucci, the Italian explorer who set forth the then revolutionary concept that the lands that Christopher Columbus sailed to in 1492 were part of a separate continent

  • @pbandj37
    @pbandj37 2 роки тому

    I enjoyed pausing the video and reading the Constitution. Nicely played.

  • @MrSimythe
    @MrSimythe 4 роки тому +7

    1:40 Stars, yo!

  • @jayayywhy4374
    @jayayywhy4374 4 роки тому +7

    i hope the alternate universe me living in Fredonia is living a good life

  • @jarzz3601
    @jarzz3601 2 роки тому

    love these short videos that awnser questions I never thought to ask

  • @KidsCalledmeMrGlass
    @KidsCalledmeMrGlass 4 роки тому +25

    England: I know it was you Fredonia,😗 you broke my heart💔

  • @LEFT4BASS
    @LEFT4BASS 4 роки тому +103

    I think part of the reason we never came up with a name was that the United States wasn’t supposed to be a single nation when it began. Each state was meant to be an independent nation, similar to separate nations under the EU.

    • @garypulliam3740
      @garypulliam3740 4 роки тому +11

      Precisely.

    • @lukeirot
      @lukeirot 4 роки тому +13

      Well it isn't quite that simple because for a while no body knew what it should be structured like.

    • @siononalundula1699
      @siononalundula1699 4 роки тому +20

      LEFT4BASS that’s not true. At all. The United States was always meant to be a Federation, never a Confederation. Those are very different things. In a Confederation there are several countries that work together as an organization, but where the central government of each country still has the last say in all matters of their own nation. In a Federation, (like the United States, Russia, Germany, Brazil, Canada and many others) although each state/province has high degree of autonomy, the Federal government has the overarching sovereignty and they have the last say. The United States was founded as a country, not a group of countries. A Federation, not a Confederation.

    • @cramer4506
      @cramer4506 4 роки тому +46

      @@siononalundula1699 Technically, the USA was created as a Confederation and shifted to a Federation with the adoption of the American Constitution.

    • @siononalundula1699
      @siononalundula1699 4 роки тому +15

      Cramer I think you’re right, actually. It was created as a group of states mainly to break free from the British, and then was formally made into a Federation with the Constitution. You’re right.

  • @dahawk8574
    @dahawk8574 4 роки тому +4

    2:29 - "United Colonies" is a name that was used for a grand total of 1 year.
    More precisely, March 14, 1775 - July 2, 1776.
    So 15 and a half months. Therefore, "known them as their entire lives" applied to NO ONE age 2 and up.

    • @alanb8884
      @alanb8884 4 роки тому

      Good point. Even though they weren't all, I believe it was just 'The Colonies'

    • @dahawk8574
      @dahawk8574 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@alanb8884, I suggest that it is revisionist to hold that the group which broke off to form the USA was known as 'The Colonies'. Contrary to popular belief, there were not "Thirteen Original Colonies". The colonies which formed British America numbered far more than 13. There was Canada to the north. Florida to the south. And a whole bunch of others that never joined the USA. And even among only those which formed the USA, the "original" number here was not 13.
      So to say "The Colonies" was an ambiguous term. Go back to 1754, when Franklin proposed his Albany Plan of Union, the term used in that document was "the Several Colonies" (used consistently three times, including the title). That made it clear that it was only a group of SOME of "The Colonies" of British America. Nowhere near all of them. Georgia was not included. Not then in 1754. Fast forward to the start of the Revolution, and Georgia was not included in the First Continental Congress. Independence was declared by the Second Continental Congress, and when that body first formed in May of 1775, Georgia was STILL not included. Yet today it is remembered as one of the 'Original Colonies', when this track record shows that it was not. There were *11 Original Colonies.* Not 13. Delaware is the other one included in the 13 count, when accurate history shows that it was part of Pennsylvania. Notice that Franklin's famous 'Join or Die' snake does not have any part listed as "Delaware".
      Then you can also look to years after the USA was formed. In the Articles of Confederation, there was a blanket provision for Quebec to join any time they wanted. So was Canada part of 'The Colonies'? Again, such a term is too ambiguous.
      In the Revolutionary War, the first amphibious assault done by the American Marines happened down in Nassau. Why? Because the Bahamas was yet another colony in British America. There were *MORE THAN 40* colonies and territories owned and run by the British in British America before the US split off. So much for "the 13 original colonies".

  • @charlesbruch7489
    @charlesbruch7489 4 роки тому +19

    Here is something also poetic:
    Harry (of Sussex) → Henry (of Sussex) → Henri → Heinrich → Emmerich → Amerigo → America

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus 2 роки тому

      Tfw America means Henry

  • @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent
    @kingusernamelxixthemagnificent 4 роки тому +6

    Frede-ards, thank you very much

  • @NicolaW72
    @NicolaW72 Рік тому

    Thank you very much for telling this Part of the History!🙂👍

  • @mrnonsense1031
    @mrnonsense1031 4 роки тому +10

    1:40 "stars, yo" 😂

  • @d.ackerman1047
    @d.ackerman1047 4 роки тому +5

    Fun fact: Venezuela at its first attempt to achieve independence from Spain, and before the formation of the Republic of Colombia was called the American Confederation of Venezuela, so yeah, I guess we both North and South Americans got an issue with common names.

    • @ErikPT
      @ErikPT 3 роки тому

      Venezuela didn’t age well

  • @MRCSANY
    @MRCSANY 3 роки тому +1

    Nobody:
    History Matters’s American flag:
    *STARS, YO*

  • @greenboi6640
    @greenboi6640 4 роки тому +4

    2:23 The Hamilton one was clever