Nissan CVT FAIL @107k miles! (P1778)
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2021
- BOOM, another Nissan with major CVT problems!
This 2012 Nissan Rogue at 107k miles refuses to shift to higher gear ratios.
Feels like the transmission is slipping severely when torque is applied.
Several codes are set, but the P1778-Step Motor Failure comes back instantly.
Enjoy!
Ivan - Авто та транспорт
CVT: slips once
also CVT: tell my wife I love her
People act like keeping technology on the bleeding edge of efficiency by recycling this cheap crap every 5 years is somehow better for the environment than just building stuff that lasts. It sure is taking a toll on our economy.
Government CAFE standards.
preach
We could fix the issue with a real transmission and more Diesel vehicles. But the gooberment and big oil won't let us have them.
It was cheaper to build than fix the cvt. JATCO who builds Nissan CVT rather build complete unit for pennies to be replaced. Notice Nissan Service departments will not open cvt, just want to replace not fix. Dealers will diagnose or possibly replace Valve Body, that`s all.
Oh the car companies don't care they only care about your money 🤷♂️
P1776--time for the owner to declare his independence from this car.
😂🤣😂 Fantastic comment!!
You sir, win the internet.
Typical Nissan
Get a Toyota for freedom from automotive headaches.
Scotty Kilmer enters the chat screaming Endless Money Pit!
Yeah and should of bought a Toyota.
'94 Celica for the WIN!!!
@@1vw4me Lol
@@classix848 ironically Toyota makes some of the best cvts. Staying true to the reliability, even know CVT's won't come close to the reliability of Toyota's four-speed Auto.
Scotty has a endless hatred for all Nissan's.
That fancy scanner should give you a code of "scrap it " and save the environment.
That fancy 5000 dollar scanner is made in china. The best most expensive scanner money can buy is china made. So china makes the best shit?
Ah, the old "Eric O" line...
"I didn't build it, I didn't buy it, and I didn't break it!"
Eric O used the same line:"I didn't build it, I didn't buy it" and added "I didn't break it" a few months back to close a video. Great line that I have repeated to my customers dozens of times since I heard it.
Eric O-He used to be on u tube didn't he ?
@@davidworsley7969 he still is
@@davidworsley7969 , South Main Auto Channel
It's not an uncommon line, usually used when the customer starts to get mad at the mechanic because the repair gets expensive.
@@davidworsley7969 How dare he takes a break over Xmas!
Remember when Nissan made good cheap cars?
Yeah, back in 1979.
I still miss my 03 Maxima sometimes, but I'll never miss needing a quart of oil with every other tank of gas. That was the beginning of the end for them.
Yeah they were called DATSUN'S !
Yeh that was before Renault took over and starting medling on how Nissan should build cars and turn to once was a bullet proof reliable car that could rival Toyota into a dog and lemon 🍋 here in Australia Nissan don't sell in big volumes the way they use to in the 80s and 90s as there reputation has been trashed
But Nissan's are the coolest looking....
Q: *Are you sure 100,000 miles is long enough for a transmission?*
Nissan: *Yes.*
wow so funny i didn’t even laugh. now shut up kid
@@tobu5398 stfu
😂😂
Subaru: *hold my beer*
Just hit 110K in my Impreza CVT, still going, changed fluid at 95K or so, definitely improved power. Wishing I had done it at 60K. Don’t ever trust lifetime fluid claims on anything
Subaru CVTs are better than Nissan
I just replaced an engine in a 2013 Subaru that had about 217,xxx miles on it. The engine went to poo, but the CVT transmission is going along well and it hasn't ever been serviced, with the exception of me replacing a torque converter lockup solenoid with the cheap one from amazon. Its been good for about 4,000 miles so far.
The Subaru units are definitely better. I believe they are both made by Jatco, however.
@@paulstandaert5709 Waiting for someone to explain how the same company makes bad transmissions for one car manufacturer but not tbe other 😅 the reality is CVT reliability has improved a lot in the last decade, but you do have to be aware of the reliability of the car and model year you're buying. Some Nissans have good CVT reliability, some do not. Even to the point where at 2016 Versa can be better than 2015 but, perhaps, worse than 2014.
@@bernlin2000 A guy at my work has a 2012 Outback and the transmission just started making noise at 17x,xxx miles. So???
I guess the slush box transmissions are notorious for not going that far in any case.
I will stick with my stick shifts.
same result as the other one , bad fluid same result , next trans coming soon Ivan , Happy New year, stay safe !
That’s pretty good 170,000kms, bmw transmission last about 100,000kms and cost double to fix but no one is banging on about that.
At the shop I worked at we did, one of customers switched to Lexus and swears by it after having 7 BMWs he nicknamed them Buggy Motor Works and it stuck. 😅😂🤣
*laughs in Camry on 330,000km*
@@MattExzy transmission in the camry if not serviced regularly would be dead before that.
Bmw.trans never fails.
@@fazicapone6931 that’s bullshit, the engines are pretty shit too, oil leaks before that even get to 40,000kms
The stepper motor is a common issue, and easy to replace if you're a competent mechanic. Drop the pan, drop the valve body, and it's right there sitting on top.
200k miles on my Nissan rogue still drive well in the mountains. I tow a lot so i actually invested in a transmission cooler at 150 miles. The key for me was consistent oil change, transmission and differential fluid changes and proper tires maintenance.
same here... I towed a 5 x10 enclosed uhaul trailer from jacksonville fl. to upstate ny. I've even moved with it, at least 6 loads with my 5x10 utility trailer up and down the hills of ny. Even a load of fire wood (that I would never do again). Tell the truth I cant even count the amount of times Ive pulled with this car. To pick up couches, washing machine, etc. my utility trailer is like 1,300lbs itself. Recently i pulled my quad on my utility trailer from ny to ga. no issues. i keep the fluid and filter changed. Im due for another full service this time i found out about the paper filter and ordered it. I have 185,000. This car has driven back and forth from north to south 8 times, and I used to pull my quad around with it too. I want to get a cooler any suggestions?
Bingo. It's how you treat the car.
Yes, but many of them have blown up after 40k miles, and the fact that they need additional maintenance merely proves how fragile these transmissions are. Even though my car has 200k miles on it, I've never changed the transmission fluid. I definitely should have, but luckily I don't drive a Nissan lol. It would have exploded if I had a Nissan with a CVT lmao
That's the key to longevity
You got lucky. They're junk.
Bet it still has the original fluid in it. The life time fluid has just hit its life limit.
Lol You're suppose to change that Nissan fluid every 30k, Now instead of paying a few hundred dollars for the fluid swap the owner now gets to pay 5k for a new transmission!
@@ShockinglyBleh
Being a nissan cvt, I don't think it would've lasted much longer even if the fluid was serviced.
@@ShockinglyBleh People who don't know this are fooled by them telling the buyer " IT'S LIFETIME FLUID ". It's actually false advertisement & they should be held accountable for saying this.
@@Sonichu_is_watching It's hit or miss depending on the year and model. Either way if you own one and you don't change the fluid it is guaranteed to fail.
Aaron tht guy got lucky he got over 100K miles on
The transmission oil changed into a grindingpaste, One must change the transmission oil every 40 to 50.000 miles. Regardless the "lifetime filling" claimed by the factory. And one should use the prescided type of oil. At the end it's much cheaper then a new transmission. But this counts for all proper maintainance.
Change the step motor and put new oil in - it will run fine, unless Ivan didn't tell us everything the owner shared about the CVT behavior a bit before, before the issue. The job is labor intensive and quite messy - on most CVT the stepper motor is not accessible without removing the valve-body. I'm not a mechanic and took me 5h to do that + it took me 2h extra to find on the web witch bolts to remove in order to get the valve-body out. Ivan is a master, plus he has the tools and probably his alldata subscription will give him the bolts location in a jiffy.
Is Eric O hunting? Lol. Great video!
He's probably fighting with his video editor like I am... Or he's hunting...
I think the Deer was trying to warn him about the CVT transmission.
@Funny Guy CV transmission. You know what they mean
I'M SURPRISED IT MADE IT TO 108K
exactly. once you go automatic, you go for walk.
Mine went 192k. Its mostly in how you drive them in life expectancy. One fluid change at 182k.
@@natewood8124 what driving habits did you use?
@@billwilson3665 no hard acceleration at all anytime. When merging or passing on the highway make sure to have plenty of room. Just being easy on it and rarely going over 2500 rpms, 3k rarely. It won't perform anyway and if you push it it will shorten its lifespan.
Mines is at 180K. Do you morons not read the owner’s manual? Lmao.
The flashing 35° warning would drive me nuts
It's to let you know that there could be possible ice on the road.
@@hedga001 agreed but to have it blinking constantly would be really annoying. Blink for maybe 5 secs that would be ok.
@@robertbell525 You can turn it off in the menu on the information cluster on the dash. Had to do it on my 2015 Rogue.
Does it do that constantly? In the winter it would be blinking from November - April.
@@danielpindell1267 The newer Rogues give you a single alert rather than a constantly flashing display.
I'm pretty sure the stepper motor and 4 coils are all accessible if you drop the pan and remove the valve body. Would definitely have been worth investigating. Nissan is big about recommending replacement of the CVT for almost any reason at all. The do the same thing with the TC. Instead of replacing seals they just say replace entire unit. Its kind of sad.
Got a Camry at 64,000, first thing i did was tires, alignment, oil, and transmission fluid. After three cars, Scott Kilmer and some questions asked I'm understanding the importance of basic car maintenance and reliable automobile buying
8 year old transmission fluid no doubt. Lack of maintenance is contributing factor.
Why is my 35 year old transmission with 274k miles in my Grand Marquis still working then?
@@SmittySmithsonite Nissan clearly states in the owner's manual that the CVT transmission fluid should be changed. There's no need for your slick remarks.
@@trent7080- I wasn’t being a smart ass - it’s a legit question. The answer only the automakers really know ... but it’s pretty obvious parts aren’t built with longevity in mind anymore.
@@SmittySmithsonite my 95 Cougar had 259,000 on it when I traded it. Got fluid flushed every year.
@@SmittySmithsonite CVT fluids require a MUCH more uniform molecule size within the oil due to the significantly higher use they see. This is achieved via friction modifiers added to various synthetic oils. As the oil goes through cycles of heating & cooling the molecular bonds loosen and you begin to get irregularities, In traditional transmission oils it's not a big deal if there's a bit of variation as the transmission isn't really at a risk of missing a very precise step & causing damage.
It looks like it could have been the step motor $30 part. Did you end changing it or condemning the entire transmission?
He's a try hard
I said the same thing dude trying to make as much possible. I would of just replaced the stepper motor and saved the people some money
We have a 2015 Pathfinder and the transmission started to act up at 102k miles. Initially thought we just had an ac issue but mechanic said we were getting a transmission fault code too. Cooling fan was not working and potentially overheating the transmission. Good news, Nissan extended the Pathfinder transmission warranty to 84k miles and prorated coverage for another 30k miles. Ended up only paying $2.5k to get the transmission replaced with Nissan paying for half of it. So maybe another 100k miles on the car? Kudos to Nissan. P.S. we changes the transmission fluid every 30k miles and still and issues at 102k miles.
Check the transmission cooling system too.
I have a 2019 Malibu with a CVT, it has been excellent, and the car currently has 180K miles, still working perfectly
The old get one from the junkyard won't work this time, they are all junk.
My 15 Sentra CVT failed at 43k miles. Barely 4k miles after I bought it. After fighting with the dealer for a couple months I got it replaced under warranty. So far so good now at 95k miles. Fluid change is a pain in the ass without a dipstick, but it's doable.
Get rid of your Nissan and get a Volvo.
Amazon has a dip stick for it.
@@AUA-camChannelwithNoName I have a volvo LOL An 88 740 turbo sedan, to be specific. That's my project child.
@@genefoster8601 Link? I just eye ball 3.5 to 4 quarts.
Amazon sells a dipstick for 2014 Nissan probably fits 2015 also. Just take the cap off the dipstick tube (NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE). Then put the dipstick in and see what it reads then go from there and add an extra half pint. (THATS ALMOST NOTHING) and It's all good and won't hurt anything. Nissan wants to turn this into something critical. Plug in your laptop then bring the temperature up to 1500 degrees then say 3 hail Mary's and two of the lords prayer then run around the car 3 times then go to the 🚻 restroom then put 3 gallons of brake fluid in and have a good day.
Yep As we know Nissan CVT's are junk. I crossed Nissan off my buy list years ago. Nice to know i still made the right decision.
I had a Nissan Primera M6 which had the cvt (the sport version I wanted only came in cvt), converted it to manual and became a different car (in a better way).
The 3.5L with all the heat failures in the electronics did it for me. I loved my two old hardbody pickups with the 3.0 (one had over half a million) but they make junk now.
I have a 2011 nissan maxima with 339000 km, original owner, I maintain the car very well and the p1778 code just came on couple of weeks ago. I took the car to nissan to diagnose it and they told me I need a new transmission and that it can't be rebuild period. I then took it to a Japanese transmission and auto part shop and they told me that the transmission can be rebuild. So not sure who's telling the truth from who's lying but it's crazy of the lack of information for these type of transmission. Seem like everyone is learning as they go along but these transmission been around for a while now. My car doesn't slip, it goes into all the gears but I notice once I go on any trip around 60 plus km and at a high rate of speed (140km to be exact lol), I start to feel the transmission doesn't change as smoothly. Almost feels like it goes into limp mode. But who knows lol, but I guess I should be thankful that my transmission lasted this long comparing to 107k miles
Hi, mine does the same when I go up to 70miles. Did you ever get yours fixed or any changes? Thanks
Any transmission can be rebuilt the dealership wants the money they get out of it than getting the minimum amount possible by rebuilt. Sounds like yours is more of lack of transmission fluid at Over 60km/hr
@@DaOnlyOne I was headed out of town, went to auto store guy checked my transmission stick & he said none was in it but told me to only buy 1 quart of transmission fluid. I can drive anywhere as long as I dont go over that 60-65 mph. (Or whenever transmission heats up I guess) You think I just need more transmission fluid? All my gears are shifting. Thanks for your response
@@tiffanyjunious2993 if it needs transmission fuild every two weeks or whatever time you have to add means one of the components is failing and needs to be replace or rebuild or you can change the transmission filter and oil cooler retirn and refill the fluid maybe will be fix it.
@@DaOnlyOne Ok Thanks
My 6 speed auto (not a cvt) transmission is still perfect after 130k miles. I love my Mazda.
My dads 5 speed auto is at 236k miles
@@Kana0211 if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll stick to the older style of transmissions since they hold on WAYYYYY better than CVT.
@@ZoraPMC yep. I got a 6 speed manual fj cruiser at 140k miles. Hope to at least double that in the future. Plus I love the old hondas cuz I grew up in them.
The only Mazda I've bought turn out to be a Ford pos
Changed the step motor in an altima and a murano with good results.
One time in my nissan versa 2007, but now the problems came back
CVT’s are generally fine with lighter cars (compacts), as long as the transmission fluid is changed every 40,000 miles and the coolant is flushed every 20,000-30,000 miles. CVT’s tend to fail frequently on SUV’s and vehicles over 4,500 lbs.
Transmission fluid on any modern car with a sealed transmission does not need to be changed, idk who told you that it does
@@casp3r_de_gh0st90
Who told me? How about every mechanic? How about the owner’s manual?
I'm really shocked that Ivan didn't dig more into it, there's got to be parts available for these by now
No one messes with these CVTs, Nissan doesn't repair them either, they just swap it.
Checking flow control valve wear, pulley leaks, and a worn or sticky valve body is better left to others.
I had two vehicles with Cvt that goes into safe mode and barely move or not moving at all. So i replace the filters inside the transmission and problem solved.
Parts and labour would be
Crazy...and you are still left with an old Nissan..😎
No parts available
Ivan, is there any chance that clean fluid could loosen up the sticking valve that controls the pulley ratio?
No. Once these burn up, they're junk. That super expensive METAL BELT wears out too quickly.
Mazda's 6 speed skyactiv drive transmission is a pretty good reliable transmission.
Sky active is the engine not transmission. Lol
@@luffyking3513 Really???? pretty sure I know my stuff on Mazda.... the transmission is called SKYACTIV-DRIVE the term skyactiv is the general term used for Mazda's technology but I will let this link from a Mazda official website tell you that the transmission is called SKYACTIV-DRIVE www.mazda.com/en/innovation/technology/skyactiv/skyactiv-drive/
which BTW the engine is skyactiv G and the G is for gasoline.. just saying check your facts out before responding like that.. also I worked in a Mazda dealership LOL for several years.
@@linuxkernel4.199 hit him hard with the facts. Respect.
@@z0mb13ki113r1 thank you ... all I was trying to say is do the research before making a careless hasty comment because there is always somebody that knows the engineering technical aspects and terminology behind things.
I would bet it probably will be like the one you tore apart with the shaft getting galled up finally ending in self destruction.
I got P1778 on my old Altima around 70k miles. It went into failsafe almost instantly, couldn’t drive it like you are. Maybe 10 mph then down to 5. Luckily I was going downhill and had it towed to dealer- never got a CEL
Hmm looks familiar, I have a 2004 micro cvt that sometimes jumps into “low gear” when what I consider under load (driving up hill, pulling away from lights) but only if the throttle is in a specific position - it’s only ever a problem when it randomly does it on the motorway at 70mph - could it be a similar problem or something else? It’s done nearly 130k.
Scotty Kilmer would tell that CVT he's been a mechanic for 58 years and it's no Toyota.
Consumer Reports says that owners began reporting problems with the 2012 Nissan Rogue CVT as early as 35,000 miles with most reports coming in at 94,000 to 115,500 miles.
CR goes on to say, “Some members reported that the work was covered under warranty or that the transmission was replaced under a special Nissan extended warranty program, the type of customer service support that manufacturers sometimes extend to address common problems.”
That’s amazing tbh. I mean not old Nissan or old Honda/Toyota, but still
Should be recalled under lemon laws.
Thank you Ivan. Good job. If you own a car with CVT transmission, save your money. 100k mile service interval; replace transmission, 😂. Have a blessed and safe New Year to you and your family.
Maybe I'm "lucky" - I had an '07 Altima 3.5SE with 170k miles (then the variable valve timing and CVT went within about 2 weeks of each other). Because of that car, (which I felt gave me very good service) I now have a '16 Maxima SV with 93k miles (purchased new). Not one issue with the transmission or anything else. But I did change the CVT fluid at 60k miles per the dealer's recommendation. I'm also a Mechanical Engineer, so I'm religious about my maintenance (I realize that doesn't always matter, though).
The cvt transmission cooling system is also equally important.
And CVT is supposed to be the evloution of gear boxes? Dark clouds on the horizon.
No. EVs are the future and they don't need transmissions.
@@wism3179 With a new battery (Leaf) costing $15,000, it's gonna be a while...
Is that a joke ? CVT has been in two-wheeler scooters decades before it is put into a car. CVT is meant to cut cost not some kind of evolution. Don't be fooled.
@@fleurdewin7958 while I get where you are coming from, a cvt is a much more efficient transmission compared to a regular auto.
@@themaxee08 That is not true. CVT has much higher transmission losses than conventional auto. Today you do have 10 speed auto transmission in a front wheel drive car and they are very efficient. And CVT are flimsy. You will never find a CVT in a turbo diesel car /pickup truck anywhere because it cannot withstand the high torque of a turbo diesel.
' It's buggered ', that's a technical discription :-D.
At least it's a fast diagnosis :-D
Waste no more of your valuable time ivan.
Yep, they come from the factory buggered. 😁
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Both of you.
I have two cars: 88 honda civic and toyota camry, 198k miles, 202k miles, respectively. Original transs and engine. Still both run like a charm.
My mom had a 2015 Nissan Versa, and she had a problem with the CVT as well she was coming home, and the transmission wouldn't "shift" to the next gear ratio would just be stuck in one "gear". The car started to lose power even if she put her foot down, and barely made it back home. She had around 80, or 90 thousand miles on it.
Tip for you Ivan .... always smell the trans oil ... you will smell if it's burnt. Same goes for power steering fluid.
Ivan, pour a bottle of Lucas in there and it will pure like a kitten 😂
@Andrew lol, howdy brother. I see we have the same taste in channels.
U nuts
I did a video on this too it was a P1777. Lack of maintenance causes this...I replaced the step motor and it was good for 4 months then it quit again, I did a trans swap and was good, still going strong they said. People wait too long and don’t change the fluid every 50k at least. Bummer. These aren’t fun as you know.
Is there a problem with clogged passage in the transmision for the oil or is it the stepper motor fault? I belive if the STP motor need replacment you can do it Ivan. Dig into service manual.
nobody gonna talk about the close encounter with the deer ??
This is why ill stick with my 6 speed Manual. Automatics can Fail too easy compared to Manual also the cost is a lot less
Good for you my 2013 Altima failed at 77k miles so I’d consider yourself lucky 😭
Never buy a Nissan, especially those with CVT transmission.
First, thanks for the vids and all the help you give!!! We have actually spoke before about my/our XL7'S and the timing chain tensioner issue. I have a question I hope you have run into before if you could give some guidance. After taking my 2003 XL7 out of 4wd hi and back into 2wd...the front differential is still doing the banging/clunking that it does to relieve transmission wind up. It is common when in 4wd but shouldn't be doing it now. I tried putting it back in and out, putting it in 4wd low, driving in reverse, and jacking up the front end to release the wind up. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
My 2002 has a manual t-case lever. Does the 2003 have an electronic actuator on the t-case? I would start there.
Thanks for the reply, you are awesome! Manual lever. I've been doing some work on it and I think the whole diff is just shot. I've never replaced one so not sure how,hard it is or what it involves. I do most of my work myself so if an average backyard mechanic can do it then great, if not I'll hire a pro. It's definitely driveable to State College if you're up for the job.
I'm suprised it had a dipstick. Probably the last year they included one.
Yes 2012 was the last year for sticks.
All the good it did to have one- fluid's all burnt & thinned out.
It had 2, the original one between the drivers seat and the steering wheel neglected to service their car, probably did not stop complerely before shifting from reverse to drive and vice versa either
Ya, after that they came with that "fluid for life" bullshit! This was the life of transmission!
@@srnc9740 Wrong, Nissan still states the fluid should be changed at 60k miles and every 30k after that. Nissan also has a dipstick that can be added on to their vehicles for a small cost.
Driving continuously in a hilly/mountain region WILL kill these CVTs no matter what. They simply can't handle the stress over time. Fluid changes are good but won't solve the overall problem.
Actually, any transmission can be killed in this environment if they are always run in regular "D" mode. They should be be downshifted at least one gear, put in "Sport Mode," or put in "D3" in they are a regular transmission. Same goes if you are driving around town at under 35mph. Especially if the town is hilly. Police around the country figured this out because when they ran regular "D" mode in their police cars driving around town constantly, it would destroy their transmissions. They solved this issue by issuing orders to use "D3" all the time unless they were on the highway.
Forgot to mention that the Nissan Rogue manual actually says to use gears 5, 6 or 7 when traveling through hilly or mountainous terrain. Folks need to read their manuals when they get these vehicles:)
If they bought a rebuilt, can your scan equipment reprogram it? Or is that a dealer only programmer? (Some one suggested Rockauto has them)
My Snap-On Verus was the only aftermarket scanner that could relearn the TCM adaptives on the Rogue.
That tool is worth its wait in gold!
2016 Nissan Rogue SV AWD here, transmission completely went at 97k kilometres (~61k miles). Was totally unable to drive the car, luckily got it replaced by Nissan under warranty.
Danger! Danger! Ivan (Will) Robinson a CVT approaches! Maybe if you transfuse it with Amanda's Rogue fluid it will come to life or maybe send it to Alpha Centauri. I will now revert to stasis mode.
Don't they have a SAW DUST additive ? Recommended by used car dealers and auction houses nationwide !
@@billsmith2212 I prefer the Husqvarna dusk vs the Stihl shavings. I haven't heard that one in years. That gave me a laugh.
I loved that Deer!! Lol!!
Another type of transmission well known for issues, giving a bad reputation to a very well established automaker, is the Ford Powershift, dual clutch transmission, used in the ford fiesta and ford focus. A year and a half ago the clutch pack burned up in my 2016 Ford focus se, at 66k miles, fortunate enough to have purchased the service protection plan at the dealership. Whereas before that car, i had a 2013 ford focus se, exact same car and engine and transmission, had 76k miles on it and no issues whatsoever, until a suspected intoxicated driver ran a stop sign and slammed into me, throwing the car across the roadway into a chain link fence and into some pinetrees in a residential back yard. I can say ford makes very safe vehicles though, they had to use the jaws of life to extract me from the wreckage, and only had a few scrapes and cuts and some abrasions, most likely caused by the side curtain airbags.
Gears Magazine mentions the P1778 stepper motor code is the most over-replaced part and that the most common cause are flow control valve wear, pulley leaks, and a worn or sticky valve body. However they also mention the stepper motor is going away on newer CVTs. Sounds like treating the symptom and not the cause.
I have the same problem with my Nissan Murano 2014. Just has CVT Transmission Oil changed, after 1 month and 2 weeks my car showed the problem.
Ivan, do you know of a good source to learn more about transmissions, etc? How can you tell if the CVT is slipping due to a mechanical failure or bad sensor readout input? Thank you again.
When was thank you stated until the end? Proceeding the last sentence with again makes no sense.
@@skinlab4239 asshat 😅
@@scientist100 Weber Auto is a good channel for transmissions, but I don't recall much content on Jatco/Nissan CVT units
In your opinion, can driving a car with automatic transmission almost always in hilly or mountainous areas, but without ever towing anything, significantly shorten the life of the automatic transmission itself? In my opinion, certainly yes: just see how much more effort you put in pedaling uphill with a bicycle.
Yes I would agree it would work harder and be more prone to failure.
Hey ivan, I have a 13 rogue here now with the same problems and the exact same faults stored and it behaves in exactly the same manner. Is there a way to send u a video of my findings? There was no problem with the step motor nor were there any electrical problems. The problem In this one is both mechanical and hydraulic. The primary variator has failed kibbles and bits and its destroyed the pump and other components. I'm in the process of repairing it now.
I currently have a 2007 V6 Altima SE with over 230K miles with the original CVT. Whe I hear the CVT whine, I get the CVT fluid drainned and refilled service. I use the recommended Nissan CVT fluids.
With these many miles ,I've had the engine coils go bad. Mechanics advice me to replace the CVT. While otherd found the engine coils . We changed the engine coils now the engine and transmission run great.
Keep your fingers crossed 🤞😁
3:23 At least the brakes work.
That's Vice Grip Garage.
That's funny they should put handles 0n the back of nissans so you can push those piles of shit out of the road when the CVT fails.
Get a good old Manual car shift gears when you want and replace a clutch every now and then
Just think...in the future when everyone gets bored with being driven around (aka self driving) manufacturers will add a "manual" setting to the sound system, so that it will sound as if the car is being rowed through its gears...what will people say then?..cause people now are saying their cars are manual, when all they have are 2 pedals and the option to hold a gear for as long as they desire.....SAVE THE MANUALS
Yeah... I'll stick with my regular automatic transmission that actually has gears. You shouldn't have to replace anything in the transmission aside from fluid to make it last long. Manuals aren't any better.
@@infiniteblaz3416 manuals are better for many reasons besides being stronger and more reliable in general actually.
@@jesusm-vn7hx "Stronger and reliable." In general? No they're not buddy. Not sure where you're getting that misconception from.
@@infiniteblaz3416 from common knowledge buddy, find a automatic that can handle the same power and torque a regular manual transmission can and tell me how much of a price difference there is🌝
By chance is that CVT on the Recall also? For a time Nissan was repairing them and offering a warranty.
A company I worked for had a fleet of Nissan Xtrails and nearly all of them had to have the gearboxs replaced over several years with 1 car needing 3 gearboxs, they then replaced the cars a few years later with the latest model Xtrail and we had one car that would randomly drop back into first gear at any given speed. I personally would never buy one.
CVTs are garbage compare to a regular 5 speed automatic. For that little bit of fuel savings, that gas money you save during the ownership is not enough for you to buy a replacement transmission.
Honestly it depends on the CVT, but most nissans are hot trash. The hybrid eCVTs that toyota make are known to be bullet proof if you maintain the fluids in them.
@@SmurfHunter eCVT is not the way you know CVT. As far as I'm concerned, it uses no belt, no pulley. Instead, it uses the electric motor to start rolling the vehicle.
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Newer CVTs are built a bit better. Especially Toyota and Honda that introduced a gear to take tension away from the steel belt when accelerating.
@@Bimbo-Balls that's interesting. Does it apply to the Honda made 'earth dreams CVT'? I own a 2020 Honda HR-V and this car was advertised to use "CVT with Earth Dreams Technology".
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I think so. If I’m not mistaken every Honda and Toyota after 2018 started to incorporate that into their CVTs.
I certainly haven’t heard much complaints from either Honda or Toyota owners who drove CVTs versions of this vehicles. The only ones I see complaints from are Nissans. That’s because of there Jacko CVTs though.
I would just change the fluid just to see what happens. They probably commonly fail because of the fluid never being changed. It most likely can’t function properly with all the contaminates in the fluid
Pretty sure these fail whether or not you change the fluid. Would be interesting to see how much longer they last with fluid changes though.
@@NicholasAndre1 I took my chevy spark took it to dealer to get cvt flushed I can tell they don't like dexron idiots at dealer put dexron instead of cvt fluid at least I have new transmission at 55k miles I guess
they are snow mobile trans
@@johnaquino5055 same concept totally different execution.
@@malachihart7370 have someone put an external cooler on it. Heat kills cvts.
Jatco was good at building regular conventional Automatic transmissions and transaxles. Just not CVT’s. I do agree that the Jatco CVT is probably the worst transaxle on the planet currently in recent automotive history. Regular automatic transmissions are more solid mechanically than that piece of crap. That Jatco CVT has a very weak belt in it which is very weak to heat. If that belt breaks I think Nissan recommends that you replace the whole unit than repairing it. Most transmission shops wouldn’t want to rebuild those CVTs. Both regular manual and automatic transmissions are way more durable than CVT’s by the look of the mechanicals. A couple of old school automatic transmissions that will beat this Jatco CVT by a long shot and in the long run will be these legendary models such as the Ford C6, Mopar Torqueflite 727, and GM THM-400 and these are gods in strength compared to the Jatco CVT.
Nissan 'Rogue'. Clearly has a different connotation in the US than it does here! Reminds me of when FIAT wanted to name their Panda as the Rustica here in the UK a way back. Now that really would have added insult to injury! ;'-)
It's also known as the x-trail in some parts of the world.
Ok Ivan. I just had a customer come in with a failed CVT on their 13 Rogue. Trans shop put in a remanned unit directly from Nissan since I don't do transmissions, but it wouldn't 'shift' from out of low range. Contacted Nissan. They said the TCM/PCM needed to be reflashed before the new trans would work and learn properly. Cost $220.00. Then it works fine. Ever run into that before?
The TCM needs to be forced to "re-learn" with a scanner. Had to do that on my wife's Rogue with the Snap-On Verus.
Ivan, just wondering, since the malfunctioning cvt is being replaced with an identical unit, why does the tcm have to relearn? What is it relearning?
You know you can just replace the stepper motor right? The transmission itself and the gears are still good, it's just that the stepper motor is mechanically faulty and not shifting when told to by the tcm. Drop the transmission pan and filter. The stepper motor will be right there in front of you. Two small screws and one plug. Replace with new stepper motor. Refill with correct fluid and your good to go.
Wow... good advice !
Some of the comments are lack of knowledge with these transmissions. First Nissan recommendation is to change the fluid every 30-50k or every two years. Also the CVTs have two filters that need to be changed when servicing them. Yes two filters! Spill and fill is not enough. Also you cannot drag race with a CVT or you will shorten its life. Yes parts fail, although you still have to keep up with the service.
I feel lucky in FL with almost zero hills. I changed my 2014 altimas cvt fluid at 50k and am about to now at 103k hopefully I can make it well past 107!
is that a road you are on? cause here in Minnesota something that narrow is called a bike path
Those are all over the Northeast. The road I live on is even more narrow, and only half of it is paved. The part that was paved was done 60 years ago. MA for ya!
@@SmittySmithsonite would not wanna drink and drive on them
@@mowmanjones3353 - Ahh, you get used to it.😜
yes, that's definitely a road, lol, imagine having to drive on roads similar to that with a 26ft box truck delivering Amazon freight to some of the little towns around Pa, just have to granny gear it and gently fold the trees back, lol
@@mattcat231 - I've been all around MA in a tractor-trailer. It tested your patience, that's for sure!
They never serviced that trans fluid...the nissan life time fluid trap worked on this one.
Ya all company's are at it now I thought it was ivens car
@@neilmurphy845 Exactly, Subaru (or at least Subaru of America) tries to get away with the same thing. All customers are now guinea pigs for car manufacturers- "Hey we want to see how our transmissions fail, I have an idea- let's push it off on the customer by saying the CVT fluid is lifetime and never needs changing!"
Well, technically the fluid did last the lifetime of the transmission...
Nissan states that the fluid shoul be changed at 60k miles and every 30k after that.
@@trent7080 it might be best to just change it every 30k regardless. Even then i dont imagine it would last too long, trash can only get so far with new fluid. Any bit of maintenance would help though.
I have 2007 Nissan Altima 2.5 257976 miles and still running well
Still running
I have a 2011 Nissan Rogue with almost 115k miles on it. So far it hasn´t shown any problem. I don´t know if I can expect a huge problem in the near future. I´ve changed the fluid every year as I have owned it for 2 and a half years now. Who knows if some can actually last a long time.
Well the Camry at least lasted 125K miles so take ur comments back 😂😂 those Nissan cvts are pure junk
haha AGREED :)
Basura= junk
Yes agree Toyota still win when it comes to durable transmissions anybody that buys a Nissan with an automatic CVT are stupid
235k on my 41TE In my Dodge Caravan. Bullet proof trany.
Did the Camry ever have he Trans oil changed in the 125k miles? Jim
Jatco CVT is broke and Water is wet.
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Was I just rickrolled?
Since when is water wet? Never heard of such a thing.
@@skinlab4239 DHMO is dangerous stuff. Have you seen the MSDS on it? More people die every year from DHMO than plutonium.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind DHMO is proven to cause cancer in the state of California.
@@zoidberg444 It can cause electrolyte depletion to the point of death, temporary blindness if it gets in the eyes, and causes more ground, sea and air casualties than any other cause.
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind it also causes male impotence.
My 2011 Altima cvt failed at 145K. Just replaced at $4100. Remanufactured cvt with only 12k or 1 year warranty. Usually remanufactured items are better than original or OEM due to upgraded parts or design improvements that rectify fault from original design by some code or law. Need to look up information concerning New vs Remanufacture parts. But, my neighbor has a 2013 Altima (one of the worse years for cvt) he had his cvt replaced by Nissan for FREE at 85k original miles. It finally went out again at 325k miles. So the original cvt failed at 85k and the remanufactured failed after 245k miles. BTW he never changed his cvt fluid on both, no maintenance. I`m going to drive mine more gently and keep maintenance timely. I also had a very small leak in my cvt after 130k. At 146k miles and now a newer remanufactured cvt, I`m hoping to go another 150k miles. But I`m going to split my driving with other cars I have. I`m retired, don`t want to have car payments. My 2002 Honda CRV is going strong at 400k miles. And my 1997 Dodge van is still strong at 285k miles. I now drive maybe 30 - 50 miles per week total, if that. Maintenance and drive only if you need to. Be amazed how much we drive when you can walk or bike.
I hate transmissions and worrying about them failing. Every car I've bought over the past 25 years has had some trans quirks. Nice diag Ivan. Thanks!
Get a manual transmission if you can ( plenty available in UK where I live) Automatics are more trouble than they're worth ...and you determine when to change gear not not some stupid computer, valves and solenoids.
I wonder if you changed the fluid on these things like a normal automatic if they would last longer. It would be an interesting study.
Yes they do
Oooh I cringe every time I hear “cvt” now...I hate that transmission with a passion after my Altima crapped
Only buy Honda and Toyota CVT’s!!!
@Funny Guy Technically it would be “CV transmission”
"Is Eric O hunting over there?" LOL!
Wow lasted a lot longer then normal!!
It doesn't need a new transmission, just needs the stepper changed - it's a common failure - couple of hundred versus a couple of thousand..
I said the same thing. Drop the pan, remove the screen and replace stepper motor. Only difference in this fault in the video is he would have had to drop the valve body out and change the 4 coils I think too.
you are right, had the same issue replaced stepper motor and changed fluid and it works as good as before...
6:04 I'm going with slight off-roading... LOL.
I'm in Australia. I have a 2011 2.5L 4wd model (Renault Koleos - almost same car). Among other codes, I was getting p1778 mostly. My CVT was slipping like crazy for a week or so, then it stopped slipping and moved into a thing where it wouldn't get out of first gear. Or, put the foot down to go forwards and it would crawl, never getting faster. So I decided to swap out the easy things first before facing a full auto replacement: Firsty, I swapped in a replacement cvt ECM, and it didn't fix it. So then I swapped out the stepper motor that sits inside the auto's valve body.. still no good. Then I swapped out both input and output speed sensors on the cvt outer case itself - no change still. So then I swapped out the 4 individual wheel speed sensors. No success. Now my last chance - I've just bought a complete cvt valve body, which will include yet another stepper motor, plus all the other bits too - solenoids etc, so I'll swap that whole thing over - it's basically the last cheap option before I junk the car. All the parts I bought so far are returnable for a credit from the buyer, so thus far, has only cost me my time. But this is the ONLY way I can try to save the car. I don't expect the valve body swap to work. Could also be the cvt oil cooler, or even the cvt oil pressure pump, both reasonably easy to swap out. But I'm losing my will to live on this thing.
You could have replaced the transmission by now 😅
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Ha! Yes.. virtually! All these parts swaps cost me almost nothing. But here in Australia, a new trans would cost AU$3,000 to buy and another AU$2,500 to fit it. So my only way out is to swap out little things and hope they work. But realistically, I think it’s the oil pressure pump located deep inside the CVT that’s at fault, and there’s no way I’ll get that done on a car that’s only worth $2500! I’m afraid this car is doomed to be bronzed! Pity.. I love it!
@@stumu1242 but how much time have you wasted? Replacing transmission is cheaper than a new car 😉
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics ok.
My personal experience with a 2012 Rogue. owned by a family member. I changed the CVT fluid at 60K, and at 120k, I did the fluid and filter. It was traded in with 156k and the CVT still worked fine. Could regular fluid changes extend the service life?
Yes
Having driven/owned a 2003 altima,2015 altima, 2009 rogue & 2015 rogue i've never experienced any CVT issues, draining the fluids every 40k miles. There are relatively accessable drain/over-fill ports on the transmission without even taking into account the filter(which changing is a bit more controversial) so I never really understood the fuss about it being extremely difficult to do. However, out of the people I do know that have had a failed CVT had either never changed the fluid, used non-oem fluid replacements, or bought the vehicle used with sketchy service history.
@@sakaraist My brother just purchased a 2017 Altima, with 40k on it. The first thing I did was a spill and fill on the CVT. I did notice that it calls for Nissan CVT NS2. The older Nissans call for NS1.
I'm surprised it made it that long. 😂
Yeah, because the warranty ends at 100 K
My Nissan Sentra 2012 has 200,000 miles and now having the same problems
What a coincidence it fails right after the 100 K warranty
Can you get the same transmission data on a Launch Diagun V scan tool ? Enjoy your videos..👌
Hello question if you see this.
I have a 2012 ford fusion with 277,xxx miles while driving the car comes to a stall when turned on it gets shaky, and after another on and off it goes back to normal no codes nothing, But looking online it says its the throttle body as those are recalls on 10-13 do you think it could be something else?