As an electrician in the Ann Arbor area, I can tell you I'd rather have a house from the 1950s in a Detroit suburb than an overpriced house from the 1850s in Ann Arbor
As a retired electrician who used to work in the Ann Arbor area, I do have a house from the early 50's in a nice Detroit suburb. 3/4 acre where the deer come and go and a shopping corridor with everything you need a mile away.
You can thank U of M for the high cost and high tax in that area.... Old house or not. Student's don't buy the housing there they just rent then get the ell out
I promise you, people aren't leaving those places because of too many 1950's cookie cutter ranch style houses. It's bad policy, taxes, and people in general are wanting out of the cities. We're among them.
No one is leaving….as a matter of fact we are running out of housing to hold everyone. I live here….you don’t. The policy is good, the taxes are fine, the people love Michigan, the crime is low, college is partly free and immigrants aren’t taking over….isn’t that the right wing narrative? It’s horse💩.
Only if your a moron.. own over 150 homes in michigan max i paid for all 3 bedroom basement garage is 15k and im a landscaper< called tax sale short sales etc my 3 bedroom home basement and garage own both houses on either side of me 2 use 1 as office 1 as biz location all 3 yards fenced together so have 3/4 acre yard and paid 45k for all 3 houses total called use your brain
Yes, Just go out and work two jobs, get some training so you can do something othet than low skilled minimum wage work and then bust your butt for 10-15 years amd saue up for a down payment like I did.
@@Bmstr-yn9wk or do everything right to the book and school.. then get overworked and underappreciated. You make more on overtime why complain? Cuz overtime is when the schedule is NOT satisfied. And the 1 job become 1.5-3 times. We didn't goto school for that. Or Corona liars with liar descrimination tactics against the healthy. Real people are done contributing labor of skill to maintain the world for the privilidged and self centered materialist insurance needing weak.
As someone who just moved out of a Detroit suburb to a rural city an hour north I can 1000% assure you people aren’t leaving because of the home prices. its the politics and the people that live in those city’s that are driving everyone away.
We left because we could actually purchase our dream home by moving out to the country. Never thought we could afford a huge house on acreage. The best part is getting away from the crime, bad policy, and congestion. Can't get a pizza delivered though lol, but it is totally worth it!
@@zach87100 It's people who talk like you are leaving because of their racist views ,bigotry and disgruntledness about the fairness of the State also their failure and lies in 2020 !The people there should be happy with the relocation.Dont think it isn't common knowledge, I have heard by credible people who refuse to be a part on these hateful group.Good for you you will miss all those places have to offer, but of course for normal fair minded people
Flint Michigan is not the same city is was 10 years ago. Flint Michigan is improving. Things are starting to turn around. Last summer the city of Flint was rebirth. It's not the same city.
There is little construction in cities like Farmington Hills, MI because there is very little land available to build on. As for population declines in most of these cities it is because of smaller families and an aging population. People have raised their families and the kids have grown up and moved out. You are not going to find empty dilapidated housing in cities 2 - 10. The houses put up for sale are selling quickly in these cities even Detroit.
@@polarvortex3294I totally agree with you. Houses in Farmington Hills are going fast. One went for $85k over asking price and the home needed major updates… that was with a $600k asking. Farmington Hills is beautiful and the homes that go on the market go fast! Extremely fast!
@@Zazimuth doordash. Doordashing around oakland county you end up in areas you dont want to be anywhere around, and see lots of things.....especially pulling a late night shift. Ive ended up in alot of very precarious situations just delivering food. Only thing kept me safe is im 6'2 230, and my service dog
Come on. Everyone that lives in the Detroit suburbs knows why people are leaving. It's either because non Americans have taken over the city, crime has taken over the city and/or the politics is corrupt. Not that hard to figure out.
Pharrell tell him about the manufactured factories that look like manufactured houses for future concentration camps. Turning out the neighborhood's criminals
I noticed that many, if not most of the cities on your list, the percentage of non-whites increased by 3, 4 and 5 times from 2000 to 2020, while the percentage of whites in many, if not most of those same cities decreased between 10% and 33% during that same time period. For example: Warren went from 90% white and 2% black in 2000 to 61% white and 20% black in 2020.... Sterling Heights went from 89% white and 1% black in 2000 to 79% white and 7% black in 2020.... Farmington Hills went from 81% white and 7% black in 2000 to 59% white and 18% black in 2020. Seems whenever minorities start to move in, the whites start to move out.
Who wants to stay in an area where crime is rampant with certain ethnicities? 🤷🏻♂️ White flight is survival & civilized behavior. Stay in black communities, be prepared to lose everything including your car.
That explains why Brighton and Howell are building new homes and experiencing growth, white flight is still occurring. I went to the Meijer in Brighton last fall and saw one non-white person in the whole store and they worked there.
@@LynnThomas-c5g I know he forgot about the 80s and then the 90s and then 2000 what are residents paid taxes and didn't know that their children were being cheated by a population of immigrants given Section 8. The population of the school is different than the actual neighborhood population the parents don't see it. When I say all the neighborhood is fine what are you talking about your school is fine because the neighborhood is fine before they moved in
Also think from many past decades Michigan they had lots of cheated elections, like this past 2020 election. But now looks like they are all caught and all exposed now finally.
I moves to Warren over 20 years ago when there was one other black family on our block. There are 3 other families and every home in the last 2 years were purchased by families from India. Every white owned stores are owned by Chaldeans who collect welfare checks to supplement their income. You’re welcome! The entire surrounding suburbs have various nationalities in the Macomb Cty community. Most benefit from free benefits while laying low and bringing others here as well. While I and my husband who keep a immaculate lawn and home, work hard,pay taxes and have never been on welfare are the problem. Now I want to move out further as well. 😂
You sound a little bitter...and racist. Chaldeans that own stores and collect welfare checks? If you OWN a store don't you have to pay property taxes on that..as well as your home? I think you need to really take a deep breath and smell the curry dear.. you're out of touch with reality.
You should move you definitely would be more comfortable with the rest of the racist,ignorant Trumpsters you'd fit right in. Do you realize there are way more white people then minorities on welfare programs just visit Port Huron and you can see for yourself
The main reason most people left their city is because of what moved into rheir city. Most that moved in brought their Middle Eastern culture with them. Houses built to fit 3-4 people are filled with 8 or more people being part of the culture.
You have that right. Very low class living. They’re like pack animals. They are gang-ish. Everybody think in the same box. It disgusts me. Low , backward culture.
Unfortunately, it is flight to rural areas. My sleepy rural area has turned into Novi west. Never seen so many subs built since the housing boom. With that comes crime, noise pollution and rude people who bring their liberal politics with them. They left sh**holes because of the politics but their views never change.
Mayor Orville Hubbard kept it segregated as long as he was in office over 30 years. Also, this was by direction of Henry Ford, who practically owned the city in his time.
Westland has gone down the toilet!! We moved 10 years ago, should’ve moved 25 years ago. We had a brick thrown through the window. Twelve sets of Christmas lights stolen off our house. Someone drove down the street and smashed every cars mirror parked on the street . We were Westland with Livonia schools. Best thing we ever did , MOVE!!
People from outside the area won't realize that you've generally just listed most of the largest suburbs of Detroit, ones aboout 36 square miles in size and large populations. If there is any trend at all (you cite "leaving" stats with no mention of "arriving" stats), suburbs like Warren, Sterling Heights, Livonia, and Farmington Hills would always be in the top 10. So would Detroit, at 139 sq. mi. and a population of roughly 700,000 people, Places with a population of about 150,000 -200,000 can't properly be declared "abandoned" if 1,500 move. That could be just boomers moving to warmer climes after retiring.
True. "Abandons" is just a catchy title for the content. None of them are abandoned but they have the most people moving away. I could have gotten into all of the details more but then no one will watch the videos. It's a struggle.
@@PaulWolfert Your video generally was well done. Whether or not a suburb is a great place to live is a subjective assessment. Everybody who posts videos seems to think some level of sensationalism must be tucked into the title or nobody will click on it. Everybody can't be wrong.
its not the Warmer Climates. it is the very High cost of Living in Michigan the very high property Taxes very bad roads very high cost of electricity ect ect, I ended up in the TVA area in 1996 because i could not afford the Ann Arbor area, best thing i ever did . went from having a neg Net worth to having a net worth of 150k with out even trying
Exactly. I live in Sterling Heights. People move out, people move in. The homes are NOT abandoned. And there is construction all over. The biggest problems in Sterling Heights are traffic and the liberal city council which always wants more and more of our money for wasteful projects. it is safe and affordable.
@@rcjr.7725 LOL !!! Almost 60 now but back in the 80's, Shacktown was the place to hang out while skipping school. My first boyfriend lived in Shacktown and went to the "bad" junior high. My parents were NOT happy, lol. They told me they left Detroit so none of us kids would hang out with trash and ALL 3 of us kids ended up hanging with people from Shacktown.
@@Nicholas.mala1997 b/c if Greg isnt a muslim, theyd prefer he be dead. and his wife and any daughters subjected to a hijab and men, whether she prescribes to muslim sheit or not. why the HELL wouldnt he have a problem with that? i have a BIG FAT JEWISH problem with it. wanna go?
@@Nicholas.mala1997 b/c if hes not a mu[d]slim they prefer he be unalive, and his wife and any daughters be subjected to hijabs and every mens whims, and if Greg is lgb they just want him unalive period. DUH why the he ll WOULDNT Greg have a problem with that? im sure Gregg has common sense. i know i personally have a BIG FAT JEWISH DYK E problem with it. also, im native, are u native? i mean, if u wanted to move back to europe and invite em on in over there, be my guest, but ure in MY ancestral homeland- stolen land on our spilled blood- and u have the audacity to tell them theyre welcome here where YOU arent even welcome. whats WRONG with u?😡 and for the record, europes getting RID of theirs, if that gives u any idea how wonderful they are to have around. theres all those problems too. take ur pick, nicholas.
I left Metro Detroit in 2003 and would never move back there. Its become WAY too crowded since I lived there, all the nice open land in the areas above 21 mile are jam packed now, and the roads didnt change so traffic is absurd.
Yes, it’s getting harder to find a good size lot to grow a good old fashioned victory garden. We’re going to need it in the future. You can move back into the prairies of Detroit and plant a garden rich in lead and asbestos.
I understand. Everyone has got to do what they have to do. I live outside of Detroit, but work in the legal field and have helped hundreds of people in the inner city have a second chance at life so even if I left for awhile, I'd be back because Detroit is where my heart is. Motown and music you can't get better than that. Well perhaps, but you know what I mean.
I was raised in Roseville till my sister and brother graduated from high school I was in 5th grade when my parents built a new home in a the suburbs of Sterling Heights 3rd house to be built in that sub 1972 at age 18 I moved to Shelby Township at 32 I moved back to Sterling Heights area 23 years later I built a home in the Allenton MI area total peace and tranquility living in the woods lots of wildlife and built my own shooting range in my backyard 😊I have chickens and a awesome greenhouse for vegetables all year round and a couple cows and pigs for meat to keep my freezer full a couple dogs to protect the property from predators, I sell my handmade projects at the local flea markets and I can take a ride on my quad or golf cart anytime I want to on the roads in my area, up to the local gas station or the local grocery store, had a sheriff ask me one time where’s my helmet while on my quad, then he said “ don’t tell me let me guess you’re on your way to the neighbors house to borrow sugar” 🤣🤣🤣I told he was right and he said “ I hope you’re making apple pie” I said I was and if he showed up at the gas station the next day at the same time he would get a slice, he did show up and got his apple pie slice 😊I have apple, pear, peach and cherry trees and I don’t hear traffic and don’t see nighttime city lights. I see the sky filled with stars and have a beautiful light show from the fireflies 😊 I could never have all this in the city! Plus if I want to go fishing I just go to my neighbors 4 acre pond, that is stocked with fish I give him fresh eggs it’s a great trading system 😊
Yep, property taxes go up every year, and not just in Detroit, but the entire area. It seems every millage, bond issue, pick your flavor of ballot initiatives, they always pass. It reminds me of a letter to the editor in the Austin Statesman, out there in Texas. A nice liberal gal wrote a letter to the editor complaining that she could no longer afford her little bungalow that she had lived in for many many years, as the she could no longer afford to pay the property taxes. She then went on to explain how she voted yes to every little want or need on the ballot to keep Austin beautiful... She never got it, she voted herself out of her own property. Women should have never been given the right to vote. This same phenomenon is happening all across Michigan, and the rigged elections are not helping matters either. The government here is extremely corrupt.
@@michaelwright1602wow. What a comment! It’s everyone’s fault but the men (or people 🙄) lying to everyone. What a brain you got there… Thanks for the input.
It's the reason why I left in 2012. Many in the nicer areas were forced to pay increased taxes to cover the areas that either couldn't or wouldn't pay theirs. At the same time the school system, garbage pickup, police an fire were all lessened. I don't want to pay more for less... so I left.
Born and raised in the Detroit Metro area. Left in 1987 and never returned. Many cities (Warren, Roseville, East Pointe, etc...) and communities started in the mid to late 1950's when the auto job industry took off and created a housing boom. Most of those homes that still exist were built quickly and to get new couples into a starter home. After the riots in 1967 and the subsequent automotive industry tanking as well as the companies that left Detroit never to return....well, you know what ended up happening.
We moved from Westland in 2018 and moved outside of Flint. Night and day. People are grumpy the closer they get to Detroit. Traffic makes me insane. Love country life.
Right! The people who are leaving are being replaced with people who want to be here and the cities are flourishing in many cases or are preparing to restructure. Some people are moving away because they want tradition verses embracing diversity.
Ann Arbor is overly gentrified. Its congested. Its expensive. If you're not a tenured professor or work a good job in the hospital system, it's food server time.
Can't mention Highland Park because basically only one race lives there and bringing them up is a no-no. He couldn't say why people are leaving Detroit. But we know why.
I worked on an apartment complex in highland park and had crack heads following me everywhere then when I stopped at the gas station I watched someone pull a pistol out and walk back in cuz he didn’t got the correct change I didn’t hang around too much longer after that lol
Born and raised in Detroit in the 60's on the north end where it borders Hamtramck. Family moved from North end to the Westside (Fenkell & Schaefer) in 78. Dearborn of Them (Hamtramck too!!!) is NOT to Dearborn if today. They have both been overran and I'll leave it rugby thetr
same born and raised, I would buy but not for these crazy ass prices they want nowadays. buying a property for 300k that sumone else got for 60k just 8-10 years ago doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
I live in the suburbs. Im perfectly happy. I’m not an hour away from a hospital. I don’t have to shovel ridiculous amounts of snow. There are things to do and places to go. I’m sure you’d be whining if everyone suddenly moved up there. Maybe you’re just anti social and enjoy being alone. I’m not and I’m fine where I’m at 😎
Everyone is moving INTO Grand Rapids and it was listed on the best cities in America to raise a family 2023 and 2024. Ridiculous economic growth, new homes and businesses everywhere. What is this guy talking about?
leaving? They're dying. Those are houses where old people died and now they're for sale. And Ann Arbor is terribly expensive. Detroit has been dropping population since the 1960's
Was that reganomics ? Why yes I believe it was ....Soo very sad he was not a friend of the American working class ............ remember your vote matters !
@@peggypasson8794Yes, a vote does indeed matter. How's the 60 yr strangle hold on Democrat run cities been working out? Mmm Hmm that's right. Deny deny deny 🤣🤣
@@d.r.7396 I'm not surprised anymore at liberals defending Democrats policies for the sake of the Party 😅 It's as if democrat voters have to check in with their party hq before they opine. Democrats could be openly killing babies & democrat voters would defend that for the sake of following the party line. The Nazis openly practiced that 🤣 Oh wait, they ARE actually killing babies with their abortion stance 🤷🏻♂️
Anything in a fifty mile radius of Grand Rapids is expensive right now , house below 300,000 need updating and anything at 150 or less probably needs complete renovation, land is crazy pricey with lots in subdivisions going well over 100k , apartments are up to 2000 a month
From $37K to $45K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.
TC is getting dirty and it's so woke, story times, Palestinian Flags, a destination of traffickers, it's not what it once was... Working a route there early mornings I have to tell the bums to get away from my car, soon to be the next Seattle. Filling up with 400 square foot steel box cheap condos for 200K+ A million bars, breweries, distillery's and restaurants, most are crappy and the sidewalks reek of pot and patchouli. The Boardman makes the bay unswimmable many times a summer, due to sewage, Parking's awful and it's pretty much an overpriced waterhole. Still pretty country, though we call it suburbia. Stoned Drunk Fudge heaven.
@tedlewis309 I sure as hell hope so. But the country is so far over the cliff that it will take a miracle. The problem is that there are multitudes of evil pieces of 💩 on both sides. And the majority of them are back stabbers that have sold their souls to the dark side.
@radiantmessenger3369 I hope you are right, but I will believe it when I see it. Things are so far over the cliff that it will take a miracle to turn this ship back around.
I'm one of the 1,994 people who left Warren. Was paying $1,700 in rent for a 1200 square foot house on a .12 acre lot. Moved to Fenton during the thing because everyone started working from home. Now I pay $1500 for a mortgage for a 2900 sqaure foot home on a .52 acre lot. Was a no-brainer.
Back when my husband and I were house hunting, we were drawn to beautiful mansions in Detroit. However, reality sunk in when some of the highlighted features included security cameras, anti burglar windows, iron gates, etc…… uhm…. No. And since we wanted to grow a family, educational options was number one on our list. I grew up in Detroit and will always have love for this city but I doubt I will ever move back.
I guess you need to update this video because, According to the estimate, Detroit gained 1,852 residents between July 1, 2022 and July 1, 2023, marking the first time since 1957 Detroit has not lost population in the eyes of the Census Bureau.
@hairdresser1300 if you live in a sparsely populated area "up north" then you're not going to be near a hospital. That's for sure. So if you want to be out of the city, then that's what you deal with. You'll have to drive a ways to get to anything. Grocery stores, gas stations, whatever.
People are moving out of Dearborn it's because if not every year there's a basic storm that comes through and it floods Dearborn it's. Alot of insurance issues etc. I'll comment as I watch.. but Farmington your absolutely correct. The homes are outdated and there's no development 😕
Dearborn doesn't flood. Dearborn Heights floods. Ford Field in Dearborn floods. It's designed to do that. It's a catch basin for when the Rouge River floods, just like Hines Drive.
Dearborn doesn't flood. That one flood a few years ago, was a fluke. However, A LOT of people didn't like what happened to their homes and made plenty noise about it. I don't think any of the residents there are hurrying to move.
Born and raised in west Dearborn. Left when I got married and now my entire extended family have moved away as well. Don’t even recognize it anymore. Don’t feel welcome in my own home town and can’t stand driving through it as it looks like sh!t.
I live in the Detroit suburbs. They are vibrant and exciting places to live along with the city proper. If as you say "everyone is leaving," then why are there no vacancies anywhere? By "everyone" you must mean certain groups of people who don't like living near other groups of people. White flight happened in the 70s and 80s as well. Your video is bogus.
well I'll tell you one thing Michigan doesn't have going for it is the price of car insurance it is absolutely ridiculous I think this state has the highest car insurance in the United States for me I have a clean record they wanted to charge me $300 a month what a joke
Born and raised on Detroit's West side and even lived in other states, due to serving in the Navy. However, I came back to Michigan, lived in Oak Park, and now in the Grosse Pointes. Yeah, crime is out of control in the city and everywhere because of increased lawlessness in the ppl. One thing I can say is, after doing some careful research, Michigan, in whole, is not a bad state. See, ppl that truly haven't seen it, due to being confined within their comfort zones, will only have a one-sided view. Now, many understand the mass migration from Detroit was largely in part by the crime rate and better opportunities for their children. I get it, I'm a mom myself! Still, I was able, in Jesus' name, to find the beauty in the ashes by sticking and staying it out here. My daughter lived and thrived successfully, a fresh 2024 graduate with honors. Really, what it just comes to is research of your own backyard. Check out the legislation, your mayor, your governor, the taxes, the schools, the neighborhood behavior, shopping, morale, and overall comfort. Most importantly, and above all, pray and ask the Lord's direction on these matters. You can't go wrong! ❤
I recently returned home to Michigan after living in Montana for 20 years. The first thing I noticed is, that people regard the Speed Limit signs as the Starting Speed, not the LIMIT. Second, in Montana, practically everyone wore a sidearm, mainly in case you collided with wildlife and had to put the animal out of its misery. I originally moved in with my sister and she was adamantly opposed to any firearms in the house or my wearing a sidearm in public. Then I noticed, that not a day would go by where someone was a victim of gun violence. I am happy to report I will be moving away from the Detroit Metro area, to a Rural Small Town. I returned because I need better Healthcare otherwise I wouldn't have returned to Michigan. I've got horror stories I could tell about incidents since I moved back. To all those thinking of moving to Michigan, I suggest anywhere above the Thumb area.
Worked in Detroit more than 30 years. Despite new business's downtown, neighborhoods behind it are burned, vandalized homes that should have been torn down the last 30 years.
Bike lanes everywhere like we are a southern climite and...brand new traffic lights everywhere....where is the money coming for that? We have functioning traffic lights, but roads with pot holes on expressway ramps...wtf
People from the city move to undeveloped hot spots and many bring their problems with them. There goes the neighborhood again! Realtors do grease the skids.
In Dearborn and Dbn Hgts. At one time it was a great place to live. Now crime has increased Fairlane is a good example and its being converted more and more to the mid east which at one time was just a small area in eastern Dearborn.
Former Highland township resident here. Does anyone else feel like the Detroit suburbs ended there in the 2000s and Haven't really grown since? Fenton and Holly have a feel of being more like Flint suburbs or satellite communities it seems. What do you think about this?
Im trying to get out of ferndale again, moving to blissville after july 4th. Ferndale has become......best i can say is woke as hell and not much common sense or logic here. Also hard drugs n crime rising very very fast since last year
@@jasonkaraszkiewicz1025 nope i live here, just got back from a year in Florida. And ive seen how much its changed just in a year, as well as whats been moving in to both towns. Been watching people pack up n moving out since spring. N seeing the abc people and the crime moving in. Guess ya not watchin the news eh, been shootings etc all around. Hell theres a few crack houses i see when i walk my dog around town here in ferndale. But hey, enjoy living in your bubble
When i left.. Dearborn became all Palestinian, Detroit had a rebuild plan, Nestle was still removing water from lake superior to bottle and sell it as pure life bottled water. Michigan state gave Nestle free access Flint was still trying to fix the water crisis, did that ever get fixed????
ONE MAIN REASON ITS BAD TO STAY IN DEARBORN IS THE HIGH POSSIBILITY OF ACCIDENTS. People drive like maniacs in Dearborn and half of them don’t have license
@@derekbilly4784 Detroit is the city that put Michigan on the map 😂 When you travel to other states you don't say you're from Michigan...it's just easier to say Detroit. Stop being a dumb.
Just subbed your channel, as a Sterling Heights resident I like your content. I am afraid I hate the new soulless houses built today or even from the early 2000’s. I live in a 1924 bungalow in what l feel is the best sub here Wanda Park. Every house is different and not cookie cutter soulless, except where the newer houses were built east of me. I started in Centerline with my 1st two houses, I built up equity and used it to get my current house.
This video is so disingenuous. People leave every city every year and people move into every city every year. Last year Detroit had its first net gain in population since the 1950's. You would never know from the skewed info shared from this nimrod. In addition, any city that is larger than average will have a larger than average number of people moving out. It will likely have a larger number moving in as well. As a real estate agent, he really should be more responsible in his presentation to the public.
So I know why it's simple it's who's moving in . I've lived in most of the cities during different periods of time . Starting in Detroit 80 n 90s their were still polish folk living there that took pride in their home's alot of blocks still looked nice as they died off scum moved in by 2000s whole blocks were burned down. Warren Roseville in the 90s looked like a suburban city 95 percent of the home's looked great around Obama time in office that same unwanted element that destroyed Detroit moved in both Warren and Roseville look like ghettos . Dearborn there's no way to sugar coat this it's the Arabs and muslims we all know this there's more in Dearborn than the rest of the country their not bad people if you take the time to learn about them but most don't bother. I mean it's nice to show the few nice homes in these locations but ur hiding the fact in the last 24 years all the nearby suburbs have been made to look like trash.
Work in Detroit for the last 15 years. It's not what people think broken down torn up homes everywhere. The city outside the 2 square mile, what everyone likes. It's just a mess.
That's a harsh comment....but....true in every way 🤷🏻♂️ Certain ethnic communities cannot seemingly live in a civilized society. Sounds bad to say but the truth is as bright as the sun
@@richardtrudeau7363Ebonics talking I get it lol. Only Corktown is nice in most part, the train station is beautiful but 80% of Detroit is still destroyed
Im in the wayne/westland area . In 2014 the houses in my neighborhood (1950's brick ranch w/basement were 70k . The latest and greatest house sale in my neighborhood was 255k??? How does that happen??? So im to expect our 1200 sq ft. home will sell for 500k in another 10yrs? Something feels very wrong.
I recently bought a house in Warren, I like the area, and the home. But it always bugs me when people talk about Warren as a whole, but Warren has different parts. It’s a square city with a highway that cuts through it. I like to think of it as a quadrant square. Lower quads are undesirable and keep the police dept busy, the upper right is the best quad, and upper left ain’t to bad either but a better value. I live in the upper right, quick drive to Sterling Heights, and quick to get on the highway.
All over grown with foreign peeps and don’t clean yard. Way too o much traffic and people. Out by Milford or commerce is much nicer.the first hole .east side , Fraser Roseville is a mess . Getting hood fast
I lived in Detroit Michigan born and raised. When I became an adult i explored many of suburban areas to live. I live in the downriver area now. Close to Monroe. I love it. Buying a house no. Had two of those in my 20s. Im looking for land. I want to buy land land land
OC board of commissioners decided to put the OC park renewal on the November ballot at an 85% increase. People in Michigan are being taxed out of their homes. Vote NO on millages.
Detroit was a Beautiful City. My Grandparents met there and my Grandfather owned a Blacksmith shop called the Groll Brothers Blacksmith. For years I’ve been looking for tools , or just anything that has to do with Groll Brothers or The Groll Brothers Blacksmith shop.
My grandfather and great grandfather owned a butcher shop. I loved hearing all the wonderful stories about Detroit. They left in the early 60’s, and moved to Fort Worth, Texas. What a change! I was born in Fort Worth. I would love to go see my relatives that are still in Detroit!
You can thank that snake John Engler. It's criminal that people are related for white flight and pay nothing in comparison in values in property taxes as we do in Wayne county. To me it's today's redlining and a means for the banks/fanny may to get people to move and generate more income for the government and the wealthy
I live in Farmington Hills! I actually recognize you from that Busch's grocery store, I used to work the self-scans/front desk there a couple years back. Neat video!
@PaulWolfert Busch's is a great market. I drive from Commerce to their 14 & Farmington Rd store, to shop. Out here in the Lakes area, grocery shopping took a hit when Hiller's closed. It is a choice between Kroger's or Meijer's out this way, except for a few small stores to get your groceries.
I am an agent in GR, and the average price is now $345k (up from the $260k when this video was made a mere 5 months ago). There may be 1790 people who left, but we have seen a huge influx of people that more than offsets this "loss".
Dearborn Heights has gotten bad. Due to Redford, inkster, and Detroit connection by here. There has been since 2020 alot of car and home thefts. You see no cops anymore like you use to before covid happened. And car insurance cost alot due to that here in Dearborn Heights
I think ,no, I am darn sure the reason everyone moves from Dearborn Heights because of the huge rats and every time it rains you literally need a canoe to go to work
That's not true.... it has grown LEAP & BOUNDS from where it used to be. Of course it's not completely safe, and still has its issues but it is better.
I bought a book at a bookstore in Fort Wayne Indiana. It is titled " Detroit: An American Autopsy" by Charles Leduff", which explains on a number of verifiable subjects, how Detroit went from a glorious past, to a dismal present. Situation: critical.
The market is pricing people out of anything affordable. The median income levels do not justify the recent increase is housing prices. Taxes keep rising, and the quality of life does not. New construction are all $700k houses. Who is buying these things???
As an electrician in the Ann Arbor area, I can tell you I'd rather have a house from the 1950s in a Detroit suburb than an overpriced house from the 1850s in Ann Arbor
100%
As a retired electrician who used to work in the Ann Arbor area, I do have a house from the early 50's in a nice Detroit suburb. 3/4 acre where the deer come and go and a shopping corridor with everything you need a mile away.
@@JoeCooper-b4t Southfield or Farmington Hills by chance?
@@blackdogvintagemi Livonia north of 5 mile
You can thank U of M for the high cost and high tax in that area.... Old house or not. Student's don't buy the housing there they just rent then get the ell out
I promise you, people aren't leaving those places because of too many 1950's cookie cutter ranch style houses. It's bad policy, taxes, and people in general are wanting out of the cities. We're among them.
Left out huge rise in violent crimes, drugs, thefts, break ins and huge amounts of crooked cops
Don’t bring your liberal agenda and ideology to the country areas of Michigan because you will be made to leave
Yes ,BAD POLICY .... Because, IT IS What POLITICIANS Give , ALL POLITICIANS, THEY Are ONLY Here to HAMPER,Not HELP .. .BOTH PARTIES
No one is leaving….as a matter of fact we are running out of housing to hold everyone. I live here….you don’t. The policy is good, the taxes are fine, the people love Michigan, the crime is low, college is partly free and immigrants aren’t taking over….isn’t that the right wing narrative? It’s horse💩.
Yes ran by democrats correct
Yes. Just go out and buy a $350,000 house. On your $20 per hour job. Good luck.
@freedomoffgrid I did that when I was 16 for gas money
Dude there is half million dollar houses where my elementary was in Ferndale and raises the taxes on all the retirees😅
Only if your a moron.. own over 150 homes in michigan max i paid for all 3 bedroom basement garage is 15k and im a landscaper< called tax sale short sales etc my 3 bedroom home basement and garage own both houses on either side of me 2 use 1 as office 1 as biz location all 3 yards fenced together so have 3/4 acre yard and paid 45k for all 3 houses total called use your brain
Yes, Just go out and work two jobs, get some training so you can do something othet than low skilled minimum wage work and then bust your butt for 10-15 years amd saue up for a down payment like I did.
@@Bmstr-yn9wk or do everything right to the book and school.. then get overworked and underappreciated. You make more on overtime why complain? Cuz overtime is when the schedule is NOT satisfied. And the 1 job become 1.5-3 times. We didn't goto school for that. Or Corona liars with liar descrimination tactics against the healthy. Real people are done contributing labor of skill to maintain the world for the privilidged and self centered materialist insurance needing weak.
As someone who just moved out of a Detroit suburb to a rural city an hour north I can 1000% assure you people aren’t leaving because of the home prices. its the politics and the people that live in those city’s that are driving everyone away.
We left because we could actually purchase our dream home by moving out to the country. Never thought we could afford a huge house on acreage. The best part is getting away from the crime, bad policy, and congestion. Can't get a pizza delivered though lol, but it is totally worth it!
Do you wake up at 3-4am to drive 1.5-2.5 hours to a job back in the city or do you have enough money saved to bail out of this shit can for good?
@@DS-lw4tn we work from home 80-90% of the time.
@@zach87100 It's people who talk like you are leaving because of their racist views ,bigotry and disgruntledness about the fairness of the State also their failure and lies in 2020 !The people there should be happy with the relocation.Dont think it isn't common knowledge, I have heard by credible people who refuse to be a part on these hateful group.Good for you you will miss all those places have to offer, but of course for normal fair minded people
@@socizen5619 what was the bad policy?
I am surprised that Flint was not on this list due to that city’s serious socioeconomic problems and its water crisis.
Agree
True, but Flint is outside the Detroit metro area, it's about 100 miles away. Even Ann Arbor is a stretch, it's about 40 miles away from Detroit.
Flint already lost it's population, long ago
Flintonians left a long time ago, in the same time frame us Detroiters left.
Flint Michigan is not the same city is was 10 years ago. Flint Michigan is improving. Things are starting to turn around. Last summer the city of Flint was rebirth. It's not the same city.
There is little construction in cities like Farmington Hills, MI because there is very little land available to build on. As for population declines in most of these cities it is because of smaller families and an aging population. People have raised their families and the kids have grown up and moved out. You are not going to find empty dilapidated housing in cities 2 - 10. The houses put up for sale are selling quickly in these cities even Detroit.
Yes, that's the real story -- what you described. Leaving for college or heaven. It's not like they're crummy towns that people hate.
😂😂😂 total bs, i live in michigan and am always in these areas and surrounding doing dd. Yall need to leave your bubbles n get back to reality 😂😂
@@polarvortex3294I totally agree with you. Houses in Farmington Hills are going fast. One went for $85k over asking price and the home needed major updates… that was with a $600k asking. Farmington Hills is beautiful and the homes that go on the market go fast! Extremely fast!
@@jessespencer1019what’s dd?
@@Zazimuth doordash. Doordashing around oakland county you end up in areas you dont want to be anywhere around, and see lots of things.....especially pulling a late night shift. Ive ended up in alot of very precarious situations just delivering food. Only thing kept me safe is im 6'2 230, and my service dog
Come on. Everyone that lives in the Detroit suburbs knows why people are leaving. It's either because non Americans have taken over the city, crime has taken over the city and/or the politics is corrupt. Not that hard to figure out.
i can tell u don't live there 😂
Detroit is experiencing an influx....ur thoughts on why?😂
100%
Oh, I live in Michigan (up state) and let's not forget ethnics. Dearborn now belongs to the Arabs and Detroit is almost all black.
That's true too.
Detroit is a tale of two cities: Downtown Detroit which is being gentrified and Greater Detroit which is being gutted.
Pharrell tell him about the manufactured factories that look like manufactured houses for future concentration camps. Turning out the neighborhood's criminals
It will be interesting to see what happens to Detroit once the Gordie Howe International Bridge opens next year.
I was born and raised near Detroit and moved to Florida. This is happening everywhere
Not gentrified they only let a few blacks in, just to say we have blacks
So good things are happening in downtown Detroit? Maybe it will spread to greater Detroit.
Dearborn = Gaza
No thanks..... too much conflict comes with the people there.
There is no conflict there it’s nice and peaceful. I live here….no problems.
Very well said
Post of the thread worthy here.
Looooool them people 😂
@@johnmandock56low life racism at its best
Inkster is a horrible city
That's "Jr Detroit"
Yup
They call it.
Little vietnam.
I grew up in Inkster and I loved it. Graduated high school in 1974. At that time it was a great place to grow up. Not anymore. Sadly.
Makes Ypsilanti look like Ann Arbor 😂
All the people leaving Ann Arbor are coming to our small town of Chelsea. It is becoming too crowded..and too Ann Arborish
Bringing the problems they fled from
Those liberal colleges piled in
People ruin any smaller town,Too many people, Now.
lol! We left Ann Arbor in 2006 😂 it’s way too expensive!
@@Elijah-bj8pv did you move to Chelsea? Lol
I noticed that many, if not most of the cities on your list, the percentage of non-whites increased by 3, 4 and 5 times from 2000 to 2020, while the percentage of whites in many, if not most of those same cities decreased between 10% and 33% during that same time period.
For example: Warren went from 90% white and 2% black in 2000 to 61% white and 20% black in 2020.... Sterling Heights went from 89% white and 1% black in 2000 to 79% white and 7% black in 2020.... Farmington Hills went from 81% white and 7% black in 2000 to 59% white and 18% black in 2020.
Seems whenever minorities start to move in, the whites start to move out.
Who wants to stay in an area where crime is rampant with certain ethnicities? 🤷🏻♂️ White flight is survival & civilized behavior. Stay in black communities, be prepared to lose everything including your car.
So which side is the culture vulture
That explains why Brighton and Howell are building new homes and experiencing growth, white flight is still occurring. I went to the Meijer in Brighton last fall and saw one non-white person in the whole store and they worked there.
It's always been that way
@@LynnThomas-c5g I know he forgot about the 80s and then the 90s and then 2000 what are residents paid taxes and didn't know that their children were being cheated by a population of immigrants given Section 8. The population of the school is different than the actual neighborhood population the parents don't see it. When I say all the neighborhood is fine what are you talking about your school is fine because the neighborhood is fine before they moved in
Politics in Michigan SUCKS...
And has finally been ripped away from the Republicans who made it suck.
YES
Also think from many past decades Michigan they had lots of cheated elections, like this past 2020 election. But now looks like they are all caught and all exposed now finally.
@TERESAVIALA …controlled by Democrats. 🙄
Than move to Texas or Florida. They have dictators for governor.
I moves to Warren over 20 years ago when there was one other black family on our block. There are 3 other families and every home in the last 2 years were purchased by families from India. Every white owned stores are owned by Chaldeans who collect welfare checks to supplement their income. You’re welcome! The entire surrounding suburbs have various nationalities in the Macomb Cty community. Most benefit from free benefits while laying low and bringing others here as well. While I and my husband who keep a immaculate lawn and home, work hard,pay taxes and have never been on welfare are the problem. Now I want to move out further as well. 😂
I’ve also heard from other neighbors, they don’t appreciate the curry smell all the time. 😂
You sound a little bitter...and racist. Chaldeans that own stores and collect welfare checks? If you OWN a store don't you have to pay property taxes on that..as well as your home? I think you need to really take a deep breath and smell the curry dear.. you're out of touch with reality.
You should move you definitely would be more comfortable with the rest of the racist,ignorant Trumpsters you'd fit right in. Do you realize there are way more white people then minorities on welfare programs just visit Port Huron and you can see for yourself
Wonder why people are leaving Dearborn??? Hahahah
Don't laugh. At least they're moving up.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the congresswoman Rashida Tlaib 😂
@@lisal4623
Good point.
@@lisal4623😂😂😂
Dearborn looks beautiful, but it's almost all Muslim.
and i been told it has No go Zones
The main reason most people left their city is because of what moved into rheir city. Most that moved in brought their Middle Eastern culture with them. Houses built to fit 3-4 people are filled with 8 or more people being part of the culture.
You have that right. Very low class living. They’re like pack animals. They are gang-ish. Everybody think in the same box. It disgusts me. Low , backward culture.
Unfortunately, it is flight to rural areas. My sleepy rural area has turned into Novi west. Never seen so many subs built since the housing boom. With that comes crime, noise pollution and rude people who bring their liberal politics with them. They left sh**holes because of the politics but their views never change.
Stop the cap people are moving from Dearborn cause of the crime rate it’s horrible literally
Not true.
And because of the Islamic influence there.
Dearborn Heights turned into Dearborn. Everything closed at COVID and got bought up by Arabs and its no longer diverse
Thanks for telling the truth.
Its the next Detroit, imo.
Oh boy. They were on the news for some firework issues on July 4th.
Smh.
News said 200 or more calls about it. Wow
I remember Dearborn didn't want any Blacks.
Sorry, however they don't want whites there either now.
Mayor Orville Hubbard kept it segregated as long as he was in office over 30 years. Also, this was by direction of Henry Ford, who practically owned the city in his time.
Now it is all arab
@@dawnmiller6899 more accurately, it's Muslim.
There are many African-Americans in Dearborn now. I grew up there and still live there. It is quite different, thank goodness.
Westland has gone down the toilet!! We moved 10 years ago, should’ve moved 25 years ago. We had a brick thrown through the window. Twelve sets of Christmas lights stolen off our house. Someone drove down the street and smashed every cars mirror parked on the street . We were Westland with Livonia schools. Best thing we ever did , MOVE!!
People from outside the area won't realize that you've generally just listed most of the largest suburbs of Detroit, ones aboout 36 square miles in size and large populations. If there is any trend at all (you cite "leaving" stats with no mention of "arriving" stats), suburbs like Warren, Sterling Heights, Livonia, and Farmington Hills would always be in the top 10. So would Detroit, at 139 sq. mi. and a population of roughly 700,000 people, Places with a population of about 150,000 -200,000 can't properly be declared "abandoned" if 1,500 move. That could be just boomers moving to warmer climes after retiring.
True. "Abandons" is just a catchy title for the content. None of them are abandoned but they have the most people moving away. I could have gotten into all of the details more but then no one will watch the videos. It's a struggle.
@@PaulWolfert Your video generally was well done. Whether or not a suburb is a great place to live is a subjective assessment. Everybody who posts videos seems to think some level of sensationalism must be tucked into the title or nobody will click on it. Everybody can't be wrong.
its not the Warmer Climates. it is the very High cost of Living in Michigan the very high property Taxes very bad roads very high cost of electricity ect ect, I ended up in the TVA area in 1996 because i could not afford the Ann Arbor area, best thing i ever did . went from having a neg Net worth to having a net worth of 150k with out even trying
Exactly. I live in Sterling Heights. People move out, people move in. The homes are NOT abandoned. And there is construction all over. The biggest problems in Sterling Heights are traffic and the liberal city council which always wants more and more of our money for wasteful projects. it is safe and affordable.
Westland ... more like wasteland.. The ghetto emptied out there
Shacktown
@@rcjr.7725 LOL !!! Almost 60 now but back in the 80's, Shacktown was the place to hang out while skipping school. My first boyfriend lived in Shacktown and went to the "bad" junior high. My parents were NOT happy, lol. They told me they left Detroit so none of us kids would hang out with trash and ALL 3 of us kids ended up hanging with people from Shacktown.
@@AngusHenry09 my grandmother lived on Oscoda Court who knows we might have slid down that big Hill but at school I think it's Vinoy it's been awhile
Been called Wasteland for a long time.
Use to be a nice city
I was raised in west Dearborn you would have to pay me a lot of money to go back there. We call it New Mecca.
Middle East
Why do they bother you Greg?
dearbornistan
@@Nicholas.mala1997 b/c if Greg isnt a muslim, theyd prefer he be dead. and his wife and any daughters subjected to a hijab and men, whether she prescribes to muslim sheit or not. why the HELL wouldnt he have a problem with that? i have a BIG FAT JEWISH problem with it. wanna go?
@@Nicholas.mala1997 b/c if hes not a mu[d]slim they prefer he be unalive, and his wife and any daughters be subjected to hijabs and every mens whims, and if Greg is lgb they just want him unalive period. DUH why the he ll WOULDNT Greg have a problem with that? im sure Gregg has common sense. i know i personally have a BIG FAT JEWISH DYK E problem with it. also, im native, are u native? i mean, if u wanted to move back to europe and invite em on in over there, be my guest, but ure in MY ancestral homeland- stolen land on our spilled blood- and u have the audacity to tell them theyre welcome here where YOU arent even welcome. whats WRONG with u?😡 and for the record, europes getting RID of theirs, if that gives u any idea how wonderful they are to have around. theres all those problems too. take ur pick, nicholas.
I left Metro Detroit in 2003 and would never move back there. Its become WAY too crowded since I lived there, all the nice open land in the areas above 21 mile are jam packed now, and the roads didnt change so traffic is absurd.
You're not lying. They built so much without expanding the roads.
Yes, it’s getting harder to find a good size lot to grow a good old fashioned victory garden. We’re going to need it in the future. You can move back into the prairies of Detroit and plant a garden rich in lead and asbestos.
I left 3 years ago. Moved to a Red state
Bye Bye Gretch
Kiss my Michigan ass.
The Medical Mile in Grand Rapids keeps the economy pretty stable there.
Born and raised in Detroit, left in 2007. You couldn't pay me to move back. I never thought that I'd say that, but its true.
That's too bad.
You must love crime!@@larrybee7713
Same...FACTS!!!
@@larrybee7713 I have no regrets about living in Detroit or leaving it. 😎
I understand. Everyone has got to do what they have to do. I live outside of Detroit, but work in the legal field and have helped hundreds of people in the inner city have a second chance at life so even if I left for awhile, I'd be back because Detroit is where my heart is. Motown and music you can't get better than that. Well perhaps, but you know what I mean.
I was raised in Roseville till my sister and brother graduated from high school I was in 5th grade when my parents built a new home in a the suburbs of Sterling Heights 3rd house to be built in that sub 1972 at age 18 I moved to Shelby Township at 32 I moved back to Sterling Heights area 23 years later I built a home in the Allenton MI area total peace and tranquility living in the woods lots of wildlife and built my own shooting range in my backyard 😊I have chickens and a awesome greenhouse for vegetables all year round and a couple cows and pigs for meat to keep my freezer full a couple dogs to protect the property from predators, I sell my handmade projects at the local flea markets and I can take a ride on my quad or golf cart anytime I want to on the roads in my area, up to the local gas station or the local grocery store, had a sheriff ask me one time where’s my helmet while on my quad, then he said “ don’t tell me let me guess you’re on your way to the neighbors house to borrow sugar” 🤣🤣🤣I told he was right and he said “ I hope you’re making apple pie” I said I was and if he showed up at the gas station the next day at the same time he would get a slice, he did show up and got his apple pie slice 😊I have apple, pear, peach and cherry trees and I don’t hear traffic and don’t see nighttime city lights. I see the sky filled with stars and have a beautiful light show from the fireflies 😊 I could never have all this in the city! Plus if I want to go fishing I just go to my neighbors 4 acre pond, that is stocked with fish I give him fresh eggs it’s a great trading system 😊
😂😂😂😂
good for you new jack. good for you
Awesome
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 shut UP!!!! LAND BACK!
bet u moved ur shtty voting tactics up there too. LAND BACK
Car insurance....Property Taxes....House insurance...Gov Whitmer....is why people are leaving.
I wouldn’t live anywhere in Wayne co.
The property taxes in the metro Detroit area is a deal breaker.
Yep, property taxes go up every year, and not just in Detroit, but the entire area. It seems every millage, bond issue, pick your flavor of ballot initiatives, they always pass. It reminds me of a letter to the editor in the Austin Statesman, out there in Texas. A nice liberal gal wrote a letter to the editor complaining that she could no longer afford her little bungalow that she had lived in for many many years, as the she could no longer afford to pay the property taxes. She then went on to explain how she voted yes to every little want or need on the ballot to keep Austin beautiful... She never got it, she voted herself out of her own property. Women should have never been given the right to vote. This same phenomenon is happening all across Michigan, and the rigged elections are not helping matters either. The government here is extremely corrupt.
@@michaelwright1602wow. What a comment! It’s everyone’s fault but the men (or people 🙄) lying to everyone. What a brain you got there… Thanks for the input.
It's the reason why I left in 2012. Many in the nicer areas were forced to pay increased taxes to cover the areas that either couldn't or wouldn't pay theirs. At the same time the school system, garbage pickup, police an fire were all lessened. I don't want to pay more for less... so I left.
@@wendybmore That was the Founding Fathers, their rules. Also being a property owner, like having skin in the game. Take it up with them.
@@michaelwright1602Why is this comment section one of the best educated comment sections on politics that I have ever seen lol solid takes
Born and raised in the Detroit Metro area. Left in 1987 and never returned. Many cities (Warren, Roseville, East Pointe, etc...) and communities started in the mid to late 1950's when the auto job industry took off and created a housing boom. Most of those homes that still exist were built quickly and to get new couples into a starter home. After the riots in 1967 and the subsequent automotive industry tanking as well as the companies that left Detroit never to return....well, you know what ended up happening.
We moved from Westland in 2018 and moved outside of Flint. Night and day. People are grumpy the closer they get to Detroit. Traffic makes me insane. Love country life.
There’s just one problem with saying everyone is leaving. Detroits population is actually growing! It’s been in the news lately.
Yes deteoit is repopulating with newcomers
@@debrapavlica6772 , our area Lafayette Park has definitely increased in the last 5 years, lots of new construction and restoration.
Right! The people who are leaving are being replaced with people who want to be here and the cities are flourishing in many cases or are preparing to restructure. Some people are moving away because they want tradition verses embracing diversity.
@@ameengoff2027couldn’t be said better 🎯
Yes...the population is growing because of illegal immigration. Why do you think people are leaving?
Lots of people have been dying of old age in Warren almost all the houses for sale around me are being sold by the kids of those who died
Ann Arbor is overly gentrified. Its congested. Its expensive. If you're not a tenured professor or work a good job in the hospital system, it's food server time.
YEA
Fun town and great for the intellectually alive crowd.
Shouldn’t Highland Park be the number one disliked city in Michigan? It’s the Detroit within Detroit!
Can't mention Highland Park because basically only one race lives there and bringing them up is a no-no. He couldn't say why people are leaving Detroit. But we know why.
I worked on an apartment complex in highland park and had crack heads following me everywhere then when I stopped at the gas station I watched someone pull a pistol out and walk back in cuz he didn’t got the correct change I didn’t hang around too much longer after that lol
It was a Polish town but fled when invaded like Dearborn.
@@JNoMooreNumbers I think you’re describing Hamtramck
He listing areas people are leaving, no need to mention HP because everyone that can, have already left. Stop being petty 😂
Unfortunately, Dearborn is self-explanatory. That city has fallen
Dearborn is a huge NO for me.... just sayin'
Facts!!
Me too
Born and raised in Detroit in the 60's on the north end where it borders Hamtramck. Family moved from North end to the Westside (Fenkell & Schaefer) in 78. Dearborn of Them (Hamtramck too!!!) is NOT to Dearborn if today. They have both been overran and I'll leave it rugby thetr
Why because you are a bigot? Dearborn doesn’t want you either bro. Grow up.
What's wrong with dearborn in your opinion?
I live in Michigan. Born and raised. I wouldn’t buy a house and live in any of the places you mentioned🤮. Go north young man🎤🎼😊
Some people (myself included) don't really like Northern Michigan - I'd rather be close to a city/life than wilderness 😄
@@PaulWolfert Some people are too scared to go south of Shelby township cause it's "too close" to Detroit lol.
same born and raised, I would buy but not for these crazy ass prices they want nowadays. buying a property for 300k that sumone else got for 60k just 8-10 years ago doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
It's much whiter!
I live in the suburbs. Im perfectly happy. I’m not an hour away from a hospital. I don’t have to shovel ridiculous amounts of snow. There are things to do and places to go. I’m sure you’d be whining if everyone suddenly moved up there. Maybe you’re just anti social and enjoy being alone. I’m not and I’m fine where I’m at 😎
Everyone is moving INTO Grand Rapids and it was listed on the best cities in America to raise a family 2023 and 2024. Ridiculous economic growth, new homes and businesses everywhere. What is this guy talking about?
Is Grand Rapids still racist
leaving? They're dying. Those are houses where old people died and now they're for sale. And Ann Arbor is terribly expensive. Detroit has been dropping population since the 1960's
Was that reganomics ? Why yes I believe it was ....Soo very sad he was not a friend of the American working class ............ remember your vote matters !
Detroit sees population growth for first time since 1957 - CBS News article
@@peggypasson8794Yes, a vote does indeed matter. How's the 60 yr strangle hold on Democrat run cities been working out? Mmm Hmm that's right. Deny deny deny 🤣🤣
Detroit is actually gaining population
@@d.r.7396 I'm not surprised anymore at liberals defending Democrats policies for the sake of the Party 😅 It's as if democrat voters have to check in with their party hq before they opine. Democrats could be openly killing babies & democrat voters would defend that for the sake of following the party line. The Nazis openly practiced that 🤣 Oh wait, they ARE actually killing babies with their abortion stance 🤷🏻♂️
Anything in a fifty mile radius of Grand Rapids is expensive right now , house below 300,000 need updating and anything at 150 or less probably needs complete renovation, land is crazy pricey with lots in subdivisions going well over 100k , apartments are up to 2000 a month
From $37K to $45K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I thinks it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family.
Please where and how did you earn that much.
Please how do I go about it
I'm still a newbie on investment trading and how can I make profits.
I would really love to know how much work you did put in to get to this stage.
all thanks to LEO CLIFFORD
**Leo Clifford is a licensed broker and a FINRA AGENT here in the States.*
I wouldn't even drive through any town with the name Dearborn attached.
They don’t want you to drive through….bigot. You aren’t anyone.
@@claudiastevens9628 😂😂😂
Left the area and Traverse City has been home for years.
Thats around where i want to be, or near manitou islands. Seems crime shys away from dogmen and ghosts
Funny fact I heard is that is TC has the highest cocaine use
I love Traverse City. We visited every summer when I was growing up.
TC is getting dirty and it's so woke, story times, Palestinian Flags, a destination of traffickers, it's not what it once was...
Working a route there early mornings I have to tell the bums to get away from my car, soon to be the next Seattle. Filling up with 400 square foot steel box cheap condos for 200K+ A million bars, breweries, distillery's and restaurants, most are crappy and the sidewalks reek of pot and patchouli. The Boardman makes the bay unswimmable many times a summer, due to sewage, Parking's awful and it's pretty much an overpriced waterhole. Still pretty country, though we call it suburbia. Stoned Drunk Fudge heaven.
@@blauer2551true. And fentanyl. My husband was a firefighter/EMT there and it was so dangerous. It’s why I left. And people are beyond rude there.
This is the WORST time to purchase a home in any location. Wait a year or so, then check the prices.
Absolutely we get Trump back and things are going to change
@tedlewis309 I sure as hell hope so. But the country is so far over the cliff that it will take a miracle. The problem is that there are multitudes of evil pieces of 💩 on both sides. And the majority of them are back stabbers that have sold their souls to the dark side.
Yep, Trump will get the interest rates down !
@radiantmessenger3369 I hope you are right, but I will believe it when I see it. Things are so far over the cliff that it will take a miracle to turn this ship back around.
What warren whites don't like ea other
I'm one of the 1,994 people who left Warren. Was paying $1,700 in rent for a 1200 square foot house on a .12 acre lot. Moved to Fenton during the thing because everyone started working from home. Now I pay $1500 for a mortgage for a 2900 sqaure foot home on a .52 acre lot. Was a no-brainer.
Back when my husband and I were house hunting, we were drawn to beautiful mansions in Detroit. However, reality sunk in when some of the highlighted features included security cameras, anti burglar windows, iron gates, etc…… uhm…. No. And since we wanted to grow a family, educational options was number one on our list. I grew up in Detroit and will always have love for this city but I doubt I will ever move back.
I guess you need to update this video because, According to the estimate, Detroit gained 1,852 residents
between July 1, 2022 and July 1, 2023, marking the first time since 1957 Detroit has not lost population
in the eyes of the Census Bureau.
Thanks, and yes! This was done just b4 it was announced, it seems.
I read that, too.
Probably illegals are being bussed in and we taxpayers will pay for their new settlement.
Are you sure that's just dead people kept "alive" and counted so they can vote in 2024?
Farmington Hills = HOA heaven and no fencing
Yep!!
Parents built a home in sub division....yeah....been sold and left
And Mark lives there. You don't want to know Mark.
I don’t want some HOA telling me what I can do with the house I own.
We retired from the Metro area to a very small town in Upper Mid-Michigan. We've never looked back.
How are the hospitals near you? My husband had a widow maker and I was so happy to have a hospital in the Detroit area 10 mins away
@hairdresser1300 if you live in a sparsely populated area "up north" then you're not going to be near a hospital. That's for sure. So if you want to be out of the city, then that's what you deal with. You'll have to drive a ways to get to anything. Grocery stores, gas stations, whatever.
Us too! The best decision ever! I hate going down state. I don't even like to go as far south as the Zilwaukee bridge 😂 It gives me anxiety
People are moving out of Dearborn it's because if not every year there's a basic storm that comes through and it floods Dearborn it's. Alot of insurance issues etc. I'll comment as I watch.. but Farmington your absolutely correct. The homes are outdated and there's no development 😕
Ya, crime n everything else has nothing to do with it at all 😂😂
Dearborn doesn't flood. Dearborn Heights floods. Ford Field in Dearborn floods. It's designed to do that. It's a catch basin for when the Rouge River floods, just like Hines Drive.
Dearborn doesn't flood. That one flood a few years ago, was a fluke. However, A LOT of people didn't like what happened to their homes and made plenty noise about it. I don't think any of the residents there are hurrying to move.
Average home prices are so out of control! Cost of homes and cars combined is a big fat payments that no one can really afford! So ridiculous
But the People of Michigan Voted for it
@@dknowles60 I know I didn't, this didn't just happen,been screwing us for years with government BS
Born and raised in west Dearborn. Left when I got married and now my entire extended family have moved away as well. Don’t even recognize it anymore. Don’t feel welcome in my own home town and can’t stand driving through it as it looks like sh!t.
There is no such thing is west Dearborn dummy
Texas not far behind. Austin dead. Dallas Fort Worth everyone leaving. Houston everyone getting out. Galveston dead. Corpus dead…
Leaving Detroit? Well, because I'm WHITE...
blacks all moved from Detroit to Roseville
I live in the Detroit suburbs. They are vibrant and exciting places to live along with the city proper. If as you say "everyone is leaving," then why are there no vacancies anywhere? By "everyone" you must mean certain groups of people who don't like living near other groups of people. White flight happened in the 70s and 80s as well.
Your video is bogus.
well I'll tell you one thing Michigan doesn't have going for it is the price of car insurance it is absolutely ridiculous I think this state has the highest car insurance in the United States for me I have a clean record they wanted to charge me $300 a month what a joke
High car insurance rates have less to do with your record than that of your neighbors. You’re not likely to steal your own car. 😂
@@PopCornSheffield-ow4vm spoken like a true idiot
Garden City is in decline too.
Some of it, because hoods from the hood are getting in
Better than it was when I was a kid. Just shady around ink town.
@@m42037 how to say you're racist without saying it.
Born and raised on Detroit's West side and even lived in other states, due to serving in the Navy. However, I came back to Michigan, lived in Oak Park, and now in the Grosse Pointes. Yeah, crime is out of control in the city and everywhere because of increased lawlessness in the ppl. One thing I can say is, after doing some careful research, Michigan, in whole, is not a bad state. See, ppl that truly haven't seen it, due to being confined within their comfort zones, will only have a one-sided view. Now, many understand the mass migration from Detroit was largely in part by the crime rate and better opportunities for their children. I get it, I'm a mom myself! Still, I was able, in Jesus' name, to find the beauty in the ashes by sticking and staying it out here. My daughter lived and thrived successfully, a fresh 2024 graduate with honors. Really, what it just comes to is research of your own backyard. Check out the legislation, your mayor, your governor, the taxes, the schools, the neighborhood behavior, shopping, morale, and overall comfort. Most importantly, and above all, pray and ask the Lord's direction on these matters. You can't go wrong! ❤
I recently returned home to Michigan after living in Montana for 20 years. The first thing I noticed is, that people regard the Speed Limit signs as the Starting Speed, not the LIMIT. Second, in Montana, practically everyone wore a sidearm, mainly in case you collided with wildlife and had to put the animal out of its misery. I originally moved in with my sister and she was adamantly opposed to any firearms in the house or my wearing a sidearm in public. Then I noticed, that not a day would go by where someone was a victim of gun violence. I am happy to report I will be moving away from the Detroit Metro area, to a Rural Small Town. I returned because I need better Healthcare otherwise I wouldn't have returned to Michigan. I've got horror stories I could tell about incidents since I moved back. To all those thinking of moving to Michigan, I suggest anywhere above the Thumb area.
Don’t you really mean, any thing white?
Please share your horror stories.
I stay away from the thumb area of Michigan. The people are reactionary rednecks. Besides, culturally, it’s dulls-ville. Boring.
Worked in Detroit more than 30 years. Despite new business's downtown, neighborhoods behind it are burned, vandalized homes that should have been torn down the last 30 years.
Bike lanes everywhere like we are a southern climite and...brand new traffic lights everywhere....where is the money coming for that?
We have functioning traffic lights, but roads with pot holes on expressway ramps...wtf
Marijuana taxes!
I bet they are developing toward a “Smart City”..
China
there are Big pot holes all over the State of Mi
Guess what political affiliation they all have in common 😅
People from the city move to undeveloped hot spots and many bring their problems with them. There goes the neighborhood again! Realtors do grease the skids.
In Dearborn and Dbn Hgts. At one time it was a great place to live. Now crime has increased Fairlane is a good example and its being converted more and more to the mid east which at one time was just a small area in eastern Dearborn.
Thank OBAMA for that. He's an Arab who intends to make this country an ARAB country.
Signs in hieroglyphics.😮
Fairlane was getting sketch by the mid 1980s. The whole character changed overnight.
Yep agree 💯
The rodents have taken over Dearborn Dearborn Heights Livonia
Former Highland township resident here. Does anyone else feel like the Detroit suburbs ended there in the 2000s and Haven't really grown since? Fenton and Holly have a feel of being more like Flint suburbs or satellite communities it seems. What do you think about this?
Totally agree, cime and drugs on the rise. Holly been getting very crowded since last year
I'm surprised Hazel Park and Ferndale didn't make the list. We moved out of Hazel Park 32 years ago.
Im trying to get out of ferndale again, moving to blissville after july 4th. Ferndale has become......best i can say is woke as hell and not much common sense or logic here. Also hard drugs n crime rising very very fast since last year
Hazel Park is in no way equivalent to Ferndale. You must've moved several decades ago to include those two cities in the same sentence
@@jasonkaraszkiewicz1025 nope i live here, just got back from a year in Florida. And ive seen how much its changed just in a year, as well as whats been moving in to both towns. Been watching people pack up n moving out since spring. N seeing the abc people and the crime moving in. Guess ya not watchin the news eh, been shootings etc all around. Hell theres a few crack houses i see when i walk my dog around town here in ferndale. But hey, enjoy living in your bubble
You should see Berkley. 🙄
A Ferndale cousin.
Hazel Park is super hot right now because you can still find a house under 200k.
I could never live in a subdivision,UGH!
You should have included property taxes and crime. The main reasons people leave
I talk a LOT about taxes in my other vids. Probably too much. As an active real estate agent, I can't talk about crime or demographics.
When i left.. Dearborn became all Palestinian,
Detroit had a rebuild plan, Nestle was still removing water from lake superior to bottle and sell it as pure life bottled water. Michigan state gave Nestle free access
Flint was still trying to fix the water crisis, did that ever get fixed????
Flint still does not have clean water
F🖕🏽CK NESTLE! I HATE NESTLE!
DID I MENTION I HATE THE F*****CK OUT OF NESTLE? did u know that there are laws theyre breaking by sucking water out of the great lakes? F*CK nestle
Nope
No
Moved to California after growing up in Southfield MI. I will never come back.
ONE MAIN REASON ITS BAD TO STAY IN DEARBORN IS THE HIGH POSSIBILITY OF ACCIDENTS. People drive like maniacs in Dearborn and half of them don’t have license
Detroit is not a suburb
Toilet bowl of michigan
@@derekbilly4784 Detroit is the city that put Michigan on the map 😂 When you travel to other states you don't say you're from Michigan...it's just easier to say Detroit. Stop being a dumb.
Just subbed your channel, as a Sterling Heights resident I like your content. I am afraid I hate the new soulless houses built today or even from the early 2000’s. I live in a 1924 bungalow in what l feel is the best sub here Wanda Park. Every house is different and not cookie cutter soulless, except where the newer houses were built east of me. I started in Centerline with my 1st two houses, I built up equity and used it to get my current house.
This video is so disingenuous. People leave every city every year and people move into every city every year. Last year Detroit had its first net gain in population since the 1950's. You would never know from the skewed info shared from this nimrod. In addition, any city that is larger than average will have a larger than average number of people moving out. It will likely have a larger number moving in as well. As a real estate agent, he really should be more responsible in his presentation to the public.
nice lie
Just because the train station was restored doesn't mean Detroit is back! The building is beautiful though but 80% of Detroit is still terrible
And how do you know? Why don't you just get lost!
Detroit is now 1/3 vacant land. The city has made tremendous strides in blight removal. This available land is positive for the future!
We're fighting for less than 80%
99% or Detroit is trash
@@ssinelli226 Ya keep rooting for a football team that hasn't won since the Eisenhower administration 1957 😂
So I know why it's simple it's who's moving in . I've lived in most of the cities during different periods of time . Starting in Detroit 80 n 90s their were still polish folk living there that took pride in their home's alot of blocks still looked nice as they died off scum moved in by 2000s whole blocks were burned down.
Warren Roseville in the 90s looked like a suburban city 95 percent of the home's looked great around Obama time in office that same unwanted element that destroyed Detroit moved in both Warren and Roseville look like ghettos .
Dearborn there's no way to sugar coat this it's the Arabs and muslims we all know this there's more in Dearborn than the rest of the country their not bad people if you take the time to learn about them but most don't bother.
I mean it's nice to show the few nice homes in these locations but ur hiding the fact in the last 24 years all the nearby suburbs have been made to look like trash.
Work in Detroit for the last 15 years. It's not what people think broken down torn up homes everywhere.
The city outside the 2 square mile, what everyone likes. It's just a mess.
The WeBes are moving in.We be here Webe there.
That's a harsh comment....but....true in every way 🤷🏻♂️ Certain ethnic communities cannot seemingly live in a civilized society. Sounds bad to say but the truth is as bright as the sun
@@richardtrudeau7363Ebonics talking I get it lol. Only Corktown is nice in most part, the train station is beautiful but 80% of Detroit is still destroyed
@@garymartin1045Nature taking over too. Collapsing houses in the neighborhoods.
Im in the wayne/westland area . In 2014 the houses in my neighborhood (1950's brick ranch w/basement were 70k . The latest and greatest house sale in my neighborhood was 255k??? How does that happen??? So im to expect our 1200 sq ft. home will sell for 500k in another 10yrs? Something feels very wrong.
I recently bought a house in Warren, I like the area, and the home. But it always bugs me when people talk about Warren as a whole, but Warren has different parts. It’s a square city with a highway that cuts through it. I like to think of it as a quadrant square. Lower quads are undesirable and keep the police dept busy, the upper right is the best quad, and upper left ain’t to bad either but a better value. I live in the upper right, quick drive to Sterling Heights, and quick to get on the highway.
There is no way I'd ever move to Dearborn for any reason.
Good.
All over grown with foreign peeps and don’t clean yard. Way too o much traffic and people. Out by Milford or commerce is much nicer.the first hole .east side , Fraser Roseville is a mess . Getting hood fast
I lived in Detroit Michigan born and raised. When I became an adult i explored many of suburban areas to live. I live in the downriver area now. Close to Monroe. I love it. Buying a house no. Had two of those in my 20s. Im looking for land. I want to buy land land land
I live in Monroe and love it. Yes, I agree, land would be nice.
My Sis moved from Detroit and lives in La Salle..which is south of Monroe..she has 17 acres..she loves it and it is beautiful out that way..
Hope you can afford the property tax.
Oakland county taxes are ridiculous!!!
OC board of commissioners decided to put the OC park renewal on the November ballot at an 85% increase.
People in Michigan are being taxed out of their homes.
Vote NO on millages.
Detroit was a Beautiful City. My Grandparents met there and my Grandfather owned a Blacksmith shop called the Groll Brothers Blacksmith. For years I’ve been looking for tools , or just anything that has to do with Groll Brothers or The Groll Brothers Blacksmith shop.
My grandfather and great grandfather owned a butcher shop. I loved hearing all the wonderful stories about Detroit. They left in the early 60’s, and moved to Fort Worth, Texas. What a change! I was born in Fort Worth. I would love to go see my relatives that are still in Detroit!
Taxes are high in some areas. I don’t know why. That’s $500. Extra a month
You can thank that snake John Engler. It's criminal that people are related for white flight and pay nothing in comparison in values in property taxes as we do in Wayne county. To me it's today's redlining and a means for the banks/fanny may to get people to move and generate more income for the government and the wealthy
Taxes are very High all over the State of Michigan
Ive been state hopping since 2015, I meet people from Detroit everywhere I move too
I live in Farmington Hills! I actually recognize you from that Busch's grocery store, I used to work the self-scans/front desk there a couple years back. Neat video!
Ahhh! That's awesome! I worked at Bush's for YEARS before getting into real estate and loved the company. I'm still at that Busch's alllllll the time.
you watched peoplescan stuff and called it work. thats super
@@chrhadden nope. I'm old. I worked there prior to any of the "u scan" stuff.
@PaulWolfert Busch's is a great market. I drive from Commerce to their 14 & Farmington Rd store, to shop. Out here in the Lakes area, grocery shopping took a hit when Hiller's closed. It is a choice between Kroger's or Meijer's out this way, except for a few small stores to get your groceries.
I am an agent in GR, and the average price is now $345k (up from the $260k when this video was made a mere 5 months ago). There may be 1790 people who left, but we have seen a huge influx of people that more than offsets this "loss".
That's a crazy increase! It's happening all over the state.
Detroit keeps Voting Democrat!!! I say let them live in Sqawller!!
Dearborn Heights has gotten bad. Due to Redford, inkster, and Detroit connection by here. There has been since 2020 alot of car and home thefts. You see no cops anymore like you use to before covid happened. And car insurance cost alot due to that here in Dearborn Heights
I love Farmington Hills. It’s a great community
Me too!
I think ,no, I am darn sure the reason everyone moves from Dearborn Heights because of the huge rats and every time it rains you literally need a canoe to go to work
Really?? Are the rats that bad in Dearborn Heights??
The city of Detroit is Not Wonderful and Safe and the Come Back City. That is Propaganda from , the city government.
That's not true.... it has grown LEAP & BOUNDS from where it used to be. Of course it's not completely safe, and still has its issues but it is better.
I bought a book at a bookstore in Fort Wayne Indiana. It is titled " Detroit: An American Autopsy" by Charles Leduff", which explains on a number of verifiable subjects, how Detroit went from a glorious past, to a dismal present. Situation: critical.
That book was from 10 years ago. Was already old news when it was published.
its simple ,Detroit has been 100% dem run since 1961
The market is pricing people out of anything affordable. The median income levels do not justify the recent increase is housing prices. Taxes keep rising, and the quality of life does not. New construction are all $700k houses. Who is buying these things???
Not everyone wants a 3 thousand sq. ft. home.
No, but is that partly because it is unaffordable for so many?
Not everyone wants to stop every 50 yards
@@leighwhiteman818 I know I don’t! Even if I was rich!