~30hrs on Magik so far, Darkchild Whirlwind Slash has been a great way to shred through an enemy backline, weaving primary attacks between the portals. Also, I've been using the Whirlwind Slash + Dash combo in the general direction of low health flying characters to finish them off, a great way to secure a kill without having to be precise with the Dash. 🙇♀
Is there a reason you are not using your melee attack inbetween your basic attack (auto attack) then animation cancel into one of your cool downs. For example you can optimize your tank buster combo. Portal -> Demon -> Basic attack, melee, Air Slash-> Basic attack, melee, Uppercut slash-> Basic attack, melee -> portal -> whirl slash -> basic attack, melee Where you see the commas (,) is where you animation cancel. I played tekken and super smash brother competitively. Like travel and went to tournaments. Animation cancels and frames is something I’m very familiar with. By not adding the melee you are missing out on like 90 damage. For 250 HP character you can also kill them with one animation cancel combo Basic, melee, air slash -> Basic, melee Pretty much whenever you basic before you use a cool down you should be outputting a melee In between. Its harder to do but thats will be a big divider in skill gap at higher ranks and landing kills on mantis or other squish when they have low health regen on them. If a character is getting healed none of these combos work. It just doesn’t matter anymore…which is probably why magic at higher levels is very hard to make work.
@whos_agent2129 I covered her animation cancel in one of my previous videos and I didn't want to over complicate these combos but you can always add a melee at the end of every primary attack which can add up across a combo. None of these combos are true as i said in the video, but I've used them all in GM lobbies and succeeded. Also, I love SSBM!
That’s my issue. I use too many cool downs and I end up dying when I shouldn’t be. Even in 1v2 situations if I taking a fight with a strategist and their dps or other support helps out. I lose due to having 0 abilities. I’ve been playing magik for maybe 15hrs or so idk exactly but I’ve had good and very good games and games where it feels like I need to switch. But I’m trying to do that less but I need to learn to be more passive and stop ability spamming randomly
when you do these guys if you are using obs can you get noboard for keyboard mouse inputs i do the the basic combo but i right click vs a tank over left click vs a squish. the e lock up makes the ghoul do damage while they still in the air and it tallys upto being more dps then the left click by the time they land but u need to land your e if you miss that u lose value off the shift right click interesting, you did the combo at the end. how ever u added a second left click and then shift in the end i stop at that point expecting them to of died from my team haha
Also! Another thing. Could you maybe slow down the combos? So we all get a proper understanding of timing and execution It’s not a big deal but since I’ve only kind of just started knuckling down on Magik it would just help a tad! Ty for a good video.
@cappxd.6126 I'll definitely make another one of these at some point and I'll do slow mo + button presses I'm sorry. The two core combos are: Left click -> E -> Left click (just keep it held) -> V (Melee) Left Click -> Right Click -> Left Click -> Shift+Left Click (just keep Left click held from the start she'll swing as soon as she can) You can mix up whether you initiate with the shift or not as well as whether you chose her Whirl attack or the summon demon. Get weird with it.
wait in the demon mode?: do you Shift + left lick Then E dash? or Shift, Left click, DASH immediately so both ring damage and dash damage happen at the same time? ( in the same way human combo goes ) or will it cancel the damage of the shifted ring
@BloodyDIMISIS55 I dash right when the AOE swing comes out. It looks like both damage are still applied so if you land the E directly on someone they should just die.
true you must Insta Kill one healer in your ult, if not then both healers will just out heal your damage. sigh just one tiny buff game just one tiny buff, like 1 more charge of the dash thats it i beg you
When you said "i use my E to go above and check out i got pretty confused sinds im a Lord magik player with 25+ hours on her that didn't make any sense but then u discovered that combo and realised the insane value 😂.My opinion or her ult is that its very good in the right hands the combo u discovered in your ult i mainly use to get a healer out the way so my dmg won't get healed as easy from there on out its whatever seems the best play. Btw about the portal thing and venerability during that just place a demon and portal again demon to get out and then maybe E if needed. Otherwise very good guide for new players!!!
My guy, please either properly vocalize the combos instead of just showing them and vaguely saying inputs, or type the inputs on screen. For a showcase of combos this video has too much talking about stuff that isn't info on the actual interactions. You can also do it slowly, its not like the bot is gonna run away while you explain what you're doing.
My guy, it is not hard to know what buttons to click from visuals alone. None of the animations are frame cancelled to where you can’t tell which button was used. There are only maybe 5 total buttons to click. The talking is necessary or helpful for insight and ‘vaguely’ saying the combo is all you need??? What the hell else do you want him to say other than primary > E > Etc. whatever. Do you want a slide show power point presentation to tell you how to click left click and E too?
lol if you dont know the basics then why are you trying to learn advance combos? go watch a basics video, and play some quick matches with her. then you know every part of her kit then watch this advanced combos.
@@vornysamoyed6340 Like I said. Put the inputs on screen. This is a video to teach someone who doesn't know how to play the character her combos, and by putting them on screen I can take a screenshot, go into firing range in game, and then learn it slowly by repeating it. By being able to see the inputs on screen I'd be able to properly train without having to rewatch the section of the video and try to figure out what the guy is doing. Also, take the tank buster 1 for example, it takes him 40 seconds of yapping before he shows the actual combo, only to then do it without even saying anything. Then it takes him another 40 seconds to vaguely say the inputs by making a mistake whilst saying it, missing one of the attacks, and then forgetting what the next input is. This is the prefect example of a badly made video and guide. And this was just one of the combos shown.
@@BloodyDIMISIS55 What basics?? knowing her kit isn't an excuse for making a bad guide where he cant even properly explain the things he's doing, its a guide for a reason, not a showcase.
I agree. These combo look very useful but I have one game played as magic. If this was a fighting game, these combo would be broken up entirely and displayed and shown how much damage it does with inputs.
Thanks for the guide, coolest character I'm terrible at playing
~30hrs on Magik so far, Darkchild Whirlwind Slash has been a great way to shred through an enemy backline, weaving primary attacks between the portals. Also, I've been using the Whirlwind Slash + Dash combo in the general direction of low health flying characters to finish them off, a great way to secure a kill without having to be precise with the Dash.
🙇♀
@ellliecopter 100% on the flying characters and I should have mentioned that in the video. I will absolutely use the whirl+E combo on flyers.
Something some people don't know is that you actually do more damage with your left click the closer you are to the target, It got fall-off damage.
Is there a reason you are not using your melee attack inbetween your basic attack (auto attack) then animation cancel into one of your cool downs.
For example you can optimize your tank buster combo.
Portal -> Demon -> Basic attack, melee, Air Slash-> Basic attack, melee, Uppercut slash-> Basic attack, melee -> portal -> whirl slash -> basic attack, melee
Where you see the commas (,) is where you animation cancel.
I played tekken and super smash brother competitively. Like travel and went to tournaments. Animation cancels and frames is something I’m very familiar with. By not adding the melee you are missing out on like 90 damage.
For 250 HP character you can also kill them with one animation cancel combo
Basic, melee, air slash -> Basic, melee
Pretty much whenever you basic before you use a cool down you should be outputting a melee In between. Its harder to do but thats will be a big divider in skill gap at higher ranks and landing kills on mantis or other squish when they have low health regen on them.
If a character is getting healed none of these combos work. It just doesn’t matter anymore…which is probably why magic at higher levels is very hard to make work.
@whos_agent2129 I covered her animation cancel in one of my previous videos and I didn't want to over complicate these combos but you can always add a melee at the end of every primary attack which can add up across a combo. None of these combos are true as i said in the video, but I've used them all in GM lobbies and succeeded. Also, I love SSBM!
9:07 maybe u can use ur normal form E in the air and then ult since the ult resets all the cooldowns
Every time I've tried to do this I get nuked while transforming. I always pop ult from behind cover now.
That’s my issue. I use too many cool downs and I end up dying when I shouldn’t be. Even in 1v2 situations if I taking a fight with a strategist and their dps or other support helps out. I lose due to having 0 abilities.
I’ve been playing magik for maybe 15hrs or so idk exactly but I’ve had good and very good games and games where it feels like I need to switch. But I’m trying to do that less but I need to learn to be more passive and stop ability spamming randomly
when you do these guys if you are using obs can you get noboard for keyboard mouse inputs
i do the the basic combo but i right click vs a tank over left click vs a squish. the e lock up makes the ghoul do damage while they still in the air and it tallys upto being more dps then the left click by the time they land but u need to land your e if you miss that u lose value off the shift right click
interesting, you did the combo at the end. how ever u added a second left click and then shift in the end i stop at that point expecting them to of died from my team haha
@SkitZHitZ If i do another one I'll show my inputs, sorry
@@frostythesandwich no apologies needed, was more of a suggestion.
Thank you though :)
Also! Another thing. Could you maybe slow down the combos? So we all get a proper understanding of timing and execution
It’s not a big deal but since I’ve only kind of just started knuckling down on Magik it would just help a tad! Ty for a good video.
@cappxd.6126 I'll definitely make another one of these at some point and I'll do slow mo + button presses I'm sorry.
The two core combos are:
Left click -> E -> Left click (just keep it held) -> V (Melee)
Left Click -> Right Click -> Left Click -> Shift+Left Click (just keep Left click held from the start she'll swing as soon as she can)
You can mix up whether you initiate with the shift or not as well as whether you chose her Whirl attack or the summon demon. Get weird with it.
@ no need to apologise!! Thank you so much for explaining it and going into extra detail I’m sure once I get better and I’ll be having no issues lol!!
u covered everything! good stuff
Great video, just do the combos slower next time so it’s a little more comprehensive for people still trying to learn such as my self lol
wait in the demon mode?: do you Shift + left lick Then E dash? or Shift, Left click, DASH immediately so both ring damage and dash damage happen at the same time? ( in the same way human combo goes ) or will it cancel the damage of the shifted ring
@BloodyDIMISIS55 I dash right when the AOE swing comes out. It looks like both damage are still applied so if you land the E directly on someone they should just die.
Not everyone is on pc
true you must Insta Kill one healer in your ult, if not then both healers will just out heal your damage. sigh just one tiny buff game just one tiny buff, like 1 more charge of the dash thats it i beg you
@BloodyDIMISIS55 Two dashes would be wild. You could definitely one-shot tanks then!
When you said "i use my E to go above and check out i got pretty confused sinds im a Lord magik player with 25+ hours on her that didn't make any sense but then u discovered that combo and realised the insane value 😂.My opinion or her ult is that its very good in the right hands the combo u discovered in your ult i mainly use to get a healer out the way so my dmg won't get healed as easy from there on out its whatever seems the best play. Btw about the portal thing and venerability during that just place a demon and portal again demon to get out and then maybe E if needed. Otherwise very good guide for new players!!!
My guy, please either properly vocalize the combos instead of just showing them and vaguely saying inputs, or type the inputs on screen. For a showcase of combos this video has too much talking about stuff that isn't info on the actual interactions. You can also do it slowly, its not like the bot is gonna run away while you explain what you're doing.
My guy, it is not hard to know what buttons to click from visuals alone. None of the animations are frame cancelled to where you can’t tell which button was used. There are only maybe 5 total buttons to click. The talking is necessary or helpful for insight and ‘vaguely’ saying the combo is all you need???
What the hell else do you want him to say other than primary > E > Etc. whatever.
Do you want a slide show power point presentation to tell you how to click left click and E too?
lol if you dont know the basics then why are you trying to learn advance combos? go watch a basics video, and play some quick matches with her. then you know every part of her kit then watch this advanced combos.
@@vornysamoyed6340 Like I said. Put the inputs on screen. This is a video to teach someone who doesn't know how to play the character her combos, and by putting them on screen I can take a screenshot, go into firing range in game, and then learn it slowly by repeating it. By being able to see the inputs on screen I'd be able to properly train without having to rewatch the section of the video and try to figure out what the guy is doing.
Also, take the tank buster 1 for example, it takes him 40 seconds of yapping before he shows the actual combo, only to then do it without even saying anything. Then it takes him another 40 seconds to vaguely say the inputs by making a mistake whilst saying it, missing one of the attacks, and then forgetting what the next input is. This is the prefect example of a badly made video and guide. And this was just one of the combos shown.
@@BloodyDIMISIS55 What basics?? knowing her kit isn't an excuse for making a bad guide where he cant even properly explain the things he's doing, its a guide for a reason, not a showcase.
I agree. These combo look very useful but I have one game played as magic.
If this was a fighting game, these combo would be broken up entirely and displayed and shown how much damage it does with inputs.