Thinking of Learning Latin or Greek? Some Ideas to Get You Started

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  • Опубліковано 27 жов 2024

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  • @ProfASAr
    @ProfASAr  2 дні тому +1

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  • @ProfASAr
    @ProfASAr  2 дні тому +8

    Hello everyone - a long interview with me was just released on a new podcast if you might care to have a listen: ua-cam.com/video/xZYDShZjKGk/v-deo.html

  • @StephenHarrisJr
    @StephenHarrisJr День тому +7

    For interested Latin and Greek learners, have a look at the following:
    (1) For Latin, Luke Ranieri and Carla Hurt's channels (e.g., Scorpio Martianus, polýMATHY, Found in Antiquity, etc) for reading plans and comprehensible input.
    (2) For Greek, three things:
    a. Audio-Visual Comprehensible Input (Alpha with Angela and Ancient Greek in Action)
    b. The Ranieri-Roberts Approach to Ancient Greek, specifically regarding its spreadsheet for extensive reading (plus other readers from Rouse, such as his Lucius' Dialogues)
    c. The Polis Institute's materials (Εν, Δυο, Τρια and its Speaking Ancient Greek as a Living Language book.
    For both Latin and Greek, adopting Luke Ranieri's 7-Step Re-Reading Technique for working through the books.

    • @iberius9937
      @iberius9937 День тому +1

      Someone else gets it!!! Excellent recommendations.

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  День тому +1

      Thank you for pointing people to these sources.

    • @bilingualsteps
      @bilingualsteps День тому +3

      @@StephenHarrisJr those are good. Carla has a vergil reader out.
      But i feel like the most overlooked and hidden gem is Legentibus-if you’re into the whole comprehensible input-thing. There you have all the 19th centrury Latin readers, lots of beginner stories, familia romana and literature with latin audio. Very little poetry though.

    • @StephenHarrisJr
      @StephenHarrisJr 21 годину тому

      @bilingualsteps , that's a perfectly legitimate suggestion that I forgot to include. The resources on that site are truly exceptional for Latin learners, but it does require a subscription and working with digital e-reader technology, which learners who prefer to work with physical books may not prefer. Even so, an argument to be made in its favor is the rich abundance of audio material that is extremely well pronounced and that is absolutely ideal for beginners who need something to model for their pronunciation. Of course, one could retort, however, that the existing and freely available Latin audio that Luke has produced on his channel would also be adequate for addressing that problem.

  • @Run.Ran.Run1
    @Run.Ran.Run1 2 дні тому +9

    I prefer to call them frozen languages rather than dead. For me they still live. Static languages is probably the best though.

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  2 дні тому +6

      I have personally have always preferred the term "learned" languages.

    • @Run.Ran.Run1
      @Run.Ran.Run1 2 дні тому +1

      @ProfASAr yes, but in my opinion, that would also include other learned languages that are affected by daily spontaneous usage, i.e., nuanced differences over time. But who am I: not a linguistic, not a historian.
      I haven't studied either since the 70s and early 80s. I want to pick up Latin again.
      I love your channel.

  • @iberius9937
    @iberius9937 День тому +1

    Been learning both for five years and counting. Will be watching this to the end even though I'm commenting, first.
    Luke Ranieri is probably the best person alive promoting not only historical Classical Attic or variants of Hellenistic or Koine pronunciation for Ancient Greek, but also how to teach oneself Ancient Greek as an autodidact with the books and methodology that he recommends. See one of his two channels, polyMathy. His other channel is Scorpio Martianus, which is entirely in spoken Latin.

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  День тому +1

      Thank you for providing these recommendations.

  • @tiagocarvalho8584
    @tiagocarvalho8584 2 дні тому +5

    They are both extremely underrated, and as a native Portuguese speaker, I probably learned more about the intricacies of my own language by studying Latin than with anything else. That said, I wish they weren’t so literature centered, as I can’t imagine someone having a good time learning them without having a strong interest in Ancient Greek or Latin literature.

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  2 дні тому +2

      Actually it is possible to focus on Ecclesiastical, spoken, and medieval / Renaissance Latin as well as upon Greek from more modern times.

    • @P-Mouse
      @P-Mouse День тому +2

      there were some Asterix comics published in Latin, but yeah it would be useful with some more media, maybe some fandubs or something like that...

  • @pearl1606
    @pearl1606 День тому +1

    Very nice. What I think is key is that you have really got to make the effort to think how that target language would express something. It really doesn't matter if you get the nuts and bolts wrong , that you can correct, but the ventriloquist bit is key.

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  День тому

      Thank you for the kind words of appreciation.

  • @RikkiestAndTikkiest
    @RikkiestAndTikkiest 2 дні тому +3

    I've been learning Latin over the past year, and I've learned more about English grammar than my undergrad English class (a low bar.) If you like intellectual stimulation and want to spend time around some really smart, well-educated (not well-indocrinated) people, learn some Latin.

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  День тому

      Thank you for sharing your experience with Latin!

  • @Yan_Alkovic
    @Yan_Alkovic 2 дні тому +2

    Very much agreed on all points, I too prefer concurrent learning. And as for a connection - the thing that first got me into Latin were the songs. Songs do wonders for enamoring me with languages

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  2 дні тому +1

      Please sing us one at the next polyglot conversation, Yan!

    • @Yan_Alkovic
      @Yan_Alkovic 2 дні тому +1

      @@ProfASAr Will do!

  • @skullknightyt
    @skullknightyt 2 дні тому +1

    Informational! Watching from the Philippines!

  • @hamedmohamed8594
    @hamedmohamed8594 2 дні тому +1

    wow this is a sign, thanks!

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  2 дні тому +1

      You are very welcome.

  • @iberius9937
    @iberius9937 9 годин тому

    Yes, when comparing Modern Greek to Ancient, Koine Greek is definitely the closest to modern, followed by Attic, of course. Even a reconstructed pronunciation from, say, Palestinian Koine or Late Roman Koine Greek is quite close to Modern pronunciation.

  • @michalpolcic4626
    @michalpolcic4626 День тому

    thanks a lot

    • @ProfASAr
      @ProfASAr  День тому

      You are very welcome.

  • @Patrick-gr2wr
    @Patrick-gr2wr 2 дні тому +3

    Via discendi longa est, sed non sine praemio sui.