How much dupes we need in tian lang yo be better than némesis 6*? And if both are 100% how much we lost for using némesis instead of tian lang? Ty for this video, super useful
cn you need A3 tian to be better than A6 nem as damage is similar and he gives the much needed hyper body. as for global that might be a bit different I think tian might be a bit more valuable.
This was the meta comp back in the days (including the rainbow team Fenrir, Saki, Lin) and now fenrir is in the standard.. so fast, can't even keep up on the meta
How would A6 crow, A6 Fenrir and A3 Lin work instead of and A0 or A1 Tian lang? Use crow as just a skill and discharge with the increased crit from A6 Fenrir. I'm not sure I'll be able to pull both fenrir and tian lang.
Can you do Lin, Fenrir and Crow team? I gave all my red nuc to get A6 Lin and saving for fenrir so i dont have enough Red nuc to pull for Tainlang, i wonder if A6 crow will be replace for tianlang. I'am planning to get A6 fenrir as well and her matrices.
i hope theres a f2p comp or a newbie comp for those who will just start their TOF bcoz of fenrir , that means alternative for lin and no nemesis since global did not add nemesis in standard banner
I have resources for A1 tian with matrices or a3 tian without then, which option is better? (I will hace C6 fenrir with matrices and already hace c6 lin)
If u are running volt comp, u should know nemesis will eventually go to the standard banner and you can exchange 6 others nemesis in the shop by having only her at c0 right? Btw nemesis c0 already have more value than samir on lin and fenrir comp
Sir let me ask something, does 2pcs Fenrir matrix stack with 2pcs matrix crow? Because for weapon Fenrir instead of using 2crow 2lyra or 2crow 2samir, you are using 2samir 2lyra. Is there any specific reason for this sir? Thank you
It seems most of the time Tian is only used for his A3 overload to get the cc immune effect instead of his batteries? or am i looking at the wrong buff icon?
@@gateoo What about just a casual team using Fenrir's mixed elemental buff? Any potential issues with that? It definitely won't hit the same DPS numbers as conventional teams.
Waifu team here I come! How much better is 2x samir 2x Lyra matrix than 2x Samir 2x crow matrix? Also what do you feel is yhe best trait for waifu group?
In the "rainbow" comp, how you activate Saki's A1? cause in the description says "When Frost Resonance is activated" but there is only one Ice weapon in "rainbow" comp... how u do it? is that a bug or something else? or am I dumb and missing something? Also insane content bro, keep it up. Thanks
Lin's Moonlight Realm activates it, when paired with any two different elemental weapons (among flame, volt, frost, and physical weapons), the Wanderer's ATK is increased by 15% in the realm, and counted as activating flame, volt, frost, and physical resonance without resonance effects.
lin activates all types of resonance without the elemental attack% increase. regardless if you have moonlight realm active or not, saki's a1 passive will work.
You don't need Samir in that team, she wants to be on field just like Tian, if you have a high star Crow it would be way better because Crow can at least be a support or just play nemesis even if she's A0 you get the resonance Samir doesn't do anything there.
in that case better you aim fenrir instead and waiting for next tian rerun or even 3.0 new volt banner, this video showcase is obv for whale as f2p you are not supposed to be following this comp
bro.. how is Tian A3 + Crow A6 + Lin A6 works? since Tiang is coming in 2 days on global, I'll be pulling for him, and prob use him with Crow and Lin, since Fenrir is not yet coming.. do u think Tian is able to survive with only his passive heal?.. or should I replace Crow A6 with Nemesis A1? but I guess that will make me lose alot of dps..
Well you just auto die without heals, I mean you aready see in videos they suffer even with fenrir/nemesis or both at the same time, tian lang just crazy, I would use nemesis yeah
Honestly the meta volt team isn't that much stronger than that triple element team, at least to warrant a whole A6 character for me since Frost is my 2nd team. Saves me money since I'm not whaley enough to be the strongest anyway. Thanks for the showcase video!
its like you are only bringing fenrir as healer then lol but since alyss and saki has s and takes little dmg then theres no point in that comp better to have lin as third slot to complete but i can picture fenrir making duplicates of enemies so you can dps it easier with ice i guess since duplicates of enemies dont move and takes dmg together with the original body of the enemy.
I already have A5 Crow soon to be A6. I don't wanna invest in another Volt damage dealer. I also have Nemesis A0 and Lin A1. Which should I go for? Tian Lang or Fenrir? And how will the team comp be?
Meh im still using samir too If you gonna replace it with tian a0 Its not worth it Fenrir is actually really good if you want to pull for the team buff and shatter volt
@@razarulz im running Samir A3, némesis A1 and Lin A6, im gonna skip tian and get A6 fenrir and bench Samir. In tian rerun i'll try to get A1 and bench nemesis
Personally I go Lin, Fenrir and crow. I'll probably swap crow with Nem when she is added to standard and I got more advancement. I say skipp tian if you cant secure atleast A1 and go all in to fenrir.
The Tian + Fenrir comp is harder than the other comps as you become a glass cannon. Specially if you go 3 Volts, your HP bar can get really low as you do your rotation skills. One wrong move and the boss going to one punch you.
Its the best electro yes, but what do you mean? if you want to, you can wait for fenrir not pulling, its a long way until she comes to global I will skip tian lang too
matrice does not matter really. if he could show some same equipment on dps with a6 crow since CN standard was balanced then at least that would be viable for f2p if people are aiming for fenrir. Jus think of the matrice as a flat variable in the equation since he will be using the same matrices on all comps its gonna be the same time to kill only longer like 20x. he is just speeding it up using those.
It doesn't matter, the results wouldn't be that different you can play good most characters with A1-A3, the A6 most of the times is just more damage and speed
Boss gameplay? Yeah. But with mob gameplay like void and phantasm, volt meta dmg output is 2x fold bc Tian requires multiple conductors for charge and dmg.
High Shatter DPS = Fenrir Dodge Attack Spam playstyle like Frigg but Medium shatter = Tian Both can activate Attack Resonance. Prioritize what you lack or what your preferred playstyle is.
Man i am really scared haha... I am used to have pretty good heals (nemesis since day1) so i never relied on dodges and stopping dps bursts because i can easily heal up.. Now ineed to be more aware of that low hp.. I am really scared haha that i am going to die all the time xD
@@asoret So i still got him and it wasnt as bad as i thought :D I don't even die that often in comparison to before and he was a good dps buff for volt.
Even tho Fenrir is completely busted. I just dont feel like pulling her even tho im volt. Idk but her gameplay/animations just dont appeal to me at all.
then dont,the global balance specifically made it basically more choices,what people see here how broken fenrir is not gonna be the same as global,the difference probably not too big with samir,crow,tian lang main dps
@@fauzanadrian1593 "then dont" ☠️ So unnecessary. And you dont have to explain that fenrir will get balanced for global bc thats fucking obvious. Like what was the point of your comment lmao
Do we already have the global numbers too? I'm curious at what advancement Tian Lang and Fenrir can "outdps" my A5 Crow so I can prepare first. PS: I know they will outdps Crow any way
not that much if your crow is a6 and all you are getting is tian a0 or a1 then better stick with crow. crow a6 has that 20% dmg buff. better wait for other streamers to test him on release. on test server his shatter is trash like using king since he does not have any shatter passives like other shatter characters. dont forget we are on global not CN, everything is balanced and power creep is minimal so expect small improvements on a0 or a1 vs standard.
@@siphi7583 and thats why its better to save instead cause the increase does not make sense. Better getting a3 or a6 fen for 30% crit rate than spending it on tian for the small increase if it can even be called an increase since you will be a glass cannon loosing hp.
@@timdayawan8927 Yes but then you see this video with Nemesis, Fenrir and Lin is like 30% worse than Tian Fenrir, and the weakest Fenrir team which is probably barely any better than Alyss, Saki Lin, maybe it's even weaker than that team.
Dolphin friendly, but Tian A3 synergizes with Fenrir A3 so well, so you'll lose alot of DPS(in terms of CN numbers with Saki-volt comp that's about 600k dps loss) compared to Tian-Fen comp but Saki still viable and cheaper.
actually official level quality Pog
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Ohno, thats a very low bar...
Yeah thats right
Volt showcase, finally! I can't wait for Tian and Fenrir to come to global!
Thank you for the showcase and Great job from Mr Editor like always ❤
What a great showcase! The moment Tian was released in CN, I decided to become volt main. Great video!!
Good to see they are kinda relative to each other, im personally going for rainbow Fenrir since i have a stacked Saki and lin.
Should also make an f2p/standard matrix loadout, so that it is more relatable to most of us =P
What, 500 million damage in 30 seconds isn't relatable lol?
@@TuxedoKamina Presumably the gear is a constant in all of these comparisons, so what's your point?
@@hunga28 He's trolling and being sarcasm lol.
@@mr.dieharderrz oh like that
That way he won't be able to solo anything, standard weapons in CN are mostly trash and super hard powercrept.
Thank you for this vid Mr gate!
Holy this volt showcase is, shocking me 😱
How much dupes we need in tian lang yo be better than némesis 6*? And if both are 100% how much we lost for using némesis instead of tian lang?
Ty for this video, super useful
For CN, A3 Tian is equal to A6 Neme. As for both A6, Neme team is around 10-20% weaker
Id say wait for global numbers in actual release.
cn you need A3 tian to be better than A6 nem as damage is similar and he gives the much needed hyper body. as for global that might be a bit different I think tian might be a bit more valuable.
The way you really can't use tian that much if you don't have the heals really compliments fenrir's kit
What's that mean ...
Looking forward for flame comparison with Lan when released
Interesting
Quality video ty. 😊
This was the meta comp back in the days (including the rainbow team Fenrir, Saki, Lin) and now fenrir is in the standard.. so fast, can't even keep up on the meta
its amazing how triple volt can still keep up with lin meta.
How’s that amazing ? Volt is op
How would A6 crow, A6 Fenrir and A3 Lin work instead of and A0 or A1 Tian lang? Use crow as just a skill and discharge with the increased crit from A6 Fenrir. I'm not sure I'll be able to pull both fenrir and tian lang.
What a great showcase. We need more of this type of content in the ToF community.
Excellent vid Gateoo!
Well, everyone's eagerly waiting for Fenrir
Can you do Lin, Fenrir and Crow team? I gave all my red nuc to get A6 Lin and saving for fenrir so i dont have enough Red nuc to pull for Tainlang, i wonder if A6 crow will be replace for tianlang.
I'am planning to get A6 fenrir as well and her matrices.
you should use nemesis or other third element support like saki
Why is there no omnium shield used? is rift better than omnium shield?
What do you think of a frost comp with Saki A1-ALyss A1-Fenrir A1 instead of Lin?
i hope theres a f2p comp or a newbie comp for those who will just start their TOF bcoz of fenrir , that means alternative for lin and no nemesis since global did not add nemesis in standard banner
Im going for tank build. Which better lyra or fenrir? as both have lifesteal
I have resources for A1 tian with matrices or a3 tian without then, which option is better? (I will hace C6 fenrir with matrices and already hace c6 lin)
can you show us if bring Lin, Samir and Fenrir? this is important for who skip tian lang later
Samir makes no sence with Fenrir. Cause theyre both on field DPS, non of them has offfield dmg or buff.
If u are running volt comp, u should know nemesis will eventually go to the standard banner and you can exchange 6 others nemesis in the shop by having only her at c0 right? Btw nemesis c0 already have more value than samir on lin and fenrir comp
Like others said you should use nemesis in that case, Im doing the only waifu team too
Sir let me ask something, does 2pcs Fenrir matrix stack with 2pcs matrix crow?
Because for weapon Fenrir instead of using 2crow 2lyra or 2crow 2samir, you are using 2samir 2lyra.
Is there any specific reason for this sir?
Thank you
mr editor got a raise?
It seems most of the time Tian is only used for his A3 overload to get the cc immune effect instead of his batteries? or am i looking at the wrong buff icon?
Will Fenrir+Tian+Lin still work for global where Tian's is removed?
I'm so excited for Tian on global, I've waited months 😭😭
2 days lefttt 😭😭😭
Did u get him
@@justkidding6482 Yeah I got a6 without spending!!
@@LiamMcGreehan nice!! Wish u alot of fun :p
@@justkidding6482 Ty!! You too
For Rainbow Comp is saki really the best out of all other weapons?
yes, skill reset , shatter and tons of s
Would triple volt work with Crow instead of Tian?
will crow nemesis and fenrir will do? sadly i lost thrice on lin banner(only purchased her a1 at the store)
can you also show us "waifu only" if using tian lang matrice on nemesis and lin matrices on fenrir? Thanks
how to unli dodge atk fenrir?
I can't wait .... will Tian 1 star or 0 star be good enough to fullpull on Fenrir?
And Lin, fenrir, alyss?
Will a rainbow comp of Lin, Fenrir and any character outside of Saki or Shiro work?
The whole point of the comp is using saki passive to spam Fenrir skills, so nothing else really works tbh
@@gateoo What about just a casual team using Fenrir's mixed elemental buff? Any potential issues with that? It definitely won't hit the same DPS numbers as conventional teams.
It's not mixed element, it's a Volt damage main, but using Saki reset skill for better rotation
What's the reason behind saki as the choice for rainbow? I was thinking maybe Claudia would've been more help as supp buff
i think for the skill reset
You can see bc Saki reset, that team literally have 0 cd on skill
Does Fenrir have macro for her complicated comboo
Waifu team here I come! How much better is 2x samir 2x Lyra matrix than 2x Samir 2x crow matrix? Also what do you feel is yhe best trait for waifu group?
In the "rainbow" comp, how you activate Saki's A1? cause in the description says "When Frost Resonance is activated" but there is only one Ice weapon in "rainbow" comp... how u do it? is that a bug or something else? or am I dumb and missing something? Also insane content bro, keep it up. Thanks
Lin's Moonlight Realm activates it, when paired with any two different elemental weapons (among flame, volt, frost, and physical weapons), the Wanderer's ATK is increased by 15% in the realm, and counted as activating flame, volt, frost, and physical resonance without resonance effects.
Gateoo-sama, can you use Tian's matrice in waifu comp and test again please?
because of Tian's matrice is a must have.
wait so does the rainbow comp with saki negates her a1 skill reset passive?
lin gives you all elemental resonances for rainbow
lin activates all types of resonance without the elemental attack% increase. regardless if you have moonlight realm active or not, saki's a1 passive will work.
Hmmm.. what do you think of Tian Lang + Samir + Lin? My Nemesis is still A0 atm
You heavily need Nemesis for heal specially if you only got A0 Tian, you don't really need to make Nemesis A higher.
You don't need Samir in that team, she wants to be on field just like Tian, if you have a high star Crow it would be way better because Crow can at least be a support or just play nemesis even if she's A0 you get the resonance Samir doesn't do anything there.
how many stars on tian & fenrir does f2p need to pull for meta volt team?
A1 at least for Fenrir and A3 for Tian
Why does no one use Nemesis Matrices on Nemesis? Is it that bad for her?
No it’s good but Nem matrices only work on her. Tian and Fenrir matrices are wayyyyy stronger and works in the background for all volts characters
For dps they prefer more damage instead of heals
What do you think of a composition of lyra fenrir and saki??
superb volt showcase but wheres the showcase for physical comp mr cake???
have you try [WAIFU ONLY] comp but with 4x Tian Matrix on Fenrir weapon ?
so since tian is a shatter now wtf do i run on him matrix wise
Can you make Fire team just like this video ?
Will do a similar vídeo with umi?
can u do a video for physical team using umi and Lyra too?
Tian is better for mobs bc he needs inductors for maximum charge and dmg output.
ye but most of the endgame content is boss fights that's why the showcase is against a boss
For f2p is Nemesis a good alternative for Tian? I invested for Lin so I won't have enough resources to get him and also gonna start saving for Fenrir.
in that case better you aim fenrir instead and waiting for next tian rerun or even 3.0 new volt banner, this video showcase is obv for whale as f2p you are not supposed to be following this comp
Yes you can skip Tian, fenrir with lin is enough
bro.. how is Tian A3 + Crow A6 + Lin A6 works?
since Tiang is coming in 2 days on global, I'll be pulling for him, and prob use him with Crow and Lin, since Fenrir is not yet coming..
do u think Tian is able to survive with only his passive heal?.. or should I replace Crow A6 with Nemesis A1? but I guess that will make me lose alot of dps..
Well you just auto die without heals, I mean you aready see in videos they suffer even with fenrir/nemesis or both at the same time, tian lang just crazy, I would use nemesis yeah
glad I been saving, but sadly I only saved 240 pulls, I unfortunately I haven't figured out how you get a lot of multipliers and buffs
TRUGGLES IN F2P
The only thing I got from this is that A1 Saki + Lin is OP
Honestly the meta volt team isn't that much stronger than that triple element team, at least to warrant a whole A6 character for me since Frost is my 2nd team. Saves me money since I'm not whaley enough to be the strongest anyway. Thanks for the showcase video!
What about with alyss fenrir & saki comp
Is it good to?pp
its like you are only bringing fenrir as healer then lol but since alyss and saki has s and takes little dmg then theres no point in that comp better to have lin as third slot to complete but i can picture fenrir making duplicates of enemies so you can dps it easier with ice i guess since duplicates of enemies dont move and takes dmg together with the original body of the enemy.
Like the other said fenrir has no point there, seems like a ice team that would prefer other ice, lin or even nemesis but not another dps
I already have A5 Crow soon to be A6. I don't wanna invest in another Volt damage dealer. I also have Nemesis A0 and Lin A1. Which should I go for? Tian Lang or Fenrir? And how will the team comp be?
sry but crow go out with either Tian or Fenrir
Meh im still using samir too
If you gonna replace it with tian a0
Its not worth it
Fenrir is actually really good if you want to pull for the team buff and shatter volt
@@razarulz im running Samir A3, némesis A1 and Lin A6, im gonna skip tian and get A6 fenrir and bench Samir. In tian rerun i'll try to get A1 and bench nemesis
Personally I go Lin, Fenrir and crow. I'll probably swap crow with Nem when she is added to standard and I got more advancement. I say skipp tian if you cant secure atleast A1 and go all in to fenrir.
is Saki the best for rainbow comp?
fenrir op
Bro my f2p pulls tho which of the two should I go for? 💀
fenrir > tian lang
什么时候出菲雷😊
How does her A3 stacks work?
The Tian + Fenrir comp is harder than the other comps as you become a glass cannon. Specially if you go 3 Volts, your HP bar can get really low as you do your rotation skills. One wrong move and the boss going to one punch you.
Dont worry nemesis carry you
it's absolutely not a problem, Fenrir 3* makes you immortal when you lose 99% of your HP
Skip tian lang wait for fenrir then skip fenrir and wait for 5.0 version
No, Fenrir is great already, just hate tian kills himself so skip
can you make a video LIN - FENRIR - CROW for us free to play
So fenrir is a must pull? i have samir 4* star invested and Lin 3* and Nemesis 0*
It's Pretty hard as F2P like me to follow Meta
Its the best electro yes, but what do you mean? if you want to, you can wait for fenrir not pulling, its a long way until she comes to global I will skip tian lang too
What's better Samir A6 or Tian A0?
Tian A1, im at the same place as you, I will just skip and wait for fenrir, to go all in
@@asoret thanks, guess I'll wait for her and will A6 Nemesis from the shop
@@aritzky_7 Thats great, I love nemesis too, so wont bench her ever or for a long time at least
would lin crow a6 and tian a3 work?
to die fast yes
@@asoret well 😥
that 30m fenrir dmg in a second, gg
Its cn not global
Thanks mr cake for this volt showcase 😍 wan wan 🐶❤
these videos are great man but i think I can say for sure that we would like to see more F2P/low spender options not full A6 +matrice set
Dude you're at the wrong channel then, this is specifically showcasing fully grown character (whale damage)
matrice does not matter really. if he could show some same equipment on dps with a6 crow since CN standard was balanced then at least that would be viable for f2p if people are aiming for fenrir. Jus think of the matrice as a flat variable in the equation since he will be using the same matrices on all comps its gonna be the same time to kill only longer like 20x. he is just speeding it up using those.
It doesn't matter, the results wouldn't be that different you can play good most characters with A1-A3, the A6 most of the times is just more damage and speed
Wow, volt meta was only 5 seconds faster than frost meta. Guess I’ll just skip tian and save for alyss. Can’t wait to see what icarus does
Boss gameplay? Yeah. But with mob gameplay like void and phantasm, volt meta dmg output is 2x fold bc Tian requires multiple conductors for charge and dmg.
For a low spender, its better fenrir o tinalang, I already have nemesis c1 (waiting she comes to permanent)
High Shatter DPS = Fenrir
Dodge Attack Spam playstyle like Frigg but Medium shatter = Tian
Both can activate Attack Resonance.
Prioritize what you lack or what your preferred playstyle is.
I would just go fenrir, she is great at c1 already and crazy survival at c3
Me as F2P : hmm yess, im definetly gonna achive that..
Man Shocki comp is so good
You could say, it’s… shockingly good…
Stop right there, your time is up
are there other rainbow team?
I guess so, but seems like it isn't worh it apart from that one
@@asoret why cuz its not the meta?
@@charlespoliquit2813 exactly you can play whatever anyways if you dont mind
Pls try Fenrir Lin Crow🙏🏻
thanks for the vid, by the wy im playing on global, is it going to be better go for c1 fenrir and matrices or only c3 fenrir?
What im waiting 4
A1 Fenrir + A0 Bai Yuekui ? 🤔
Man i am really scared haha... I am used to have pretty good heals (nemesis since day1) so i never relied on dodges and stopping dps bursts because i can easily heal up.. Now ineed to be more aware of that low hp.. I am really scared haha that i am going to die all the time xD
you dont need to play tian lang xD for the same reason I will just play the last team and wait for the future, is good enough and can heal the team
@@asoret So i still got him and it wasnt as bad as i thought :D I don't even die that often in comparison to before and he was a good dps buff for volt.
Waiting for physical team 🥲
Even tho Fenrir is completely busted. I just dont feel like pulling her even tho im volt. Idk but her gameplay/animations just dont appeal to me at all.
then dont,the global balance specifically made it basically more choices,what people see here how broken fenrir is not gonna be the same as global,the difference probably not too big with samir,crow,tian lang main dps
@@fauzanadrian1593 "then dont" ☠️ So unnecessary. And you dont have to explain that fenrir will get balanced for global bc thats fucking obvious. Like what was the point of your comment lmao
Do we already have the global numbers too? I'm curious at what advancement Tian Lang and Fenrir can "outdps" my A5 Crow so I can prepare first.
PS: I know they will outdps Crow any way
not that much if your crow is a6 and all you are getting is tian a0 or a1 then better stick with crow. crow a6 has that 20% dmg buff. better wait for other streamers to test him on release. on test server his shatter is trash like using king since he does not have any shatter passives like other shatter characters. dont forget we are on global not CN, everything is balanced and power creep is minimal so expect small improvements on a0 or a1 vs standard.
A1 Tian should be stronger than A6 Crow by maybe 10%.
@@siphi7583 and thats why its better to save instead cause the increase does not make sense. Better getting a3 or a6 fen for 30% crit rate than spending it on tian for the small increase if it can even be called an increase since you will be a glass cannon loosing hp.
@@timdayawan8927 Yes but then you see this video with Nemesis, Fenrir and Lin is like 30% worse than Tian Fenrir, and the weakest Fenrir team which is probably barely any better than Alyss, Saki Lin, maybe it's even weaker than that team.
Man thanks for rainbow comp my volt team will be much cheaper, I can use saki and skip tianlang for my volt team.
Dolphin friendly, but Tian A3 synergizes with Fenrir A3 so well, so you'll lose alot of DPS(in terms of CN numbers with Saki-volt comp that's about 600k dps loss) compared to Tian-Fen comp but Saki still viable and cheaper.
@@kamveng453 cn tian = dmg.. global tian = Shatter... so skip tian ;)
getting back here . So what I said is true, I can compete with a6 tian users with my saki . Noice
nao tem nenhuma mudança signnificativa, qualquer time está muito bom, vou skipar Tian e esperar nemesis entrar para a loja
Would I prefer ATK or Volt ATK on my gear if I'm using the Rainbow comp?
Need phys showcase
Flame please
Yeah!! I'll play Rainbow Comp i like spamming skill unlimited
can i use saki, fenrir and someone else? dont like lin or alyss
Waifu only team here i come!
first :)
汪汪
I'll take the most f2p friendly 1:35 comp, thank you.
same, still gonna be top dps everywhere with it, tian is useless kekw
waifu only is the besttttt