ABANDONED CEMETERY IN THE WOODS - Who Were They? In the LaBagh Woods Forest Preserve, Chicago, ILL.
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THIS STORY:
We in the the LaBagh Woods Forest Preserve, on the northwest side of Chicago.
We found gravestones scattered all over the premises, adjacent an abandoned railroad line.
Who are these forgotten people? Are they still buried here? Or were their gravestones just dumped here?
Or worse? .......Newer family homes are just yards away.
THIS CHANNEL:
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The Angel face you see is the Haserot, named “The Angel of Death Victorious". The stoic angel is seated on the marble gravestone of canning entrepreneur Francis Haserot and his family. Holding an extinguished torch upside-down, it represents a symbol of life extinguished. Wings are outstretched and the gaze is straight ahead.
IN THE END, DEATH ALWAYS WINS. LEST THE FACES NOT BE FORGOTTEN...
This channel is focused on casually walking and viewing a handful of the thousands of forgotten names and faces at various cemeteries near and afar. Seeing their faces up close. And when able, telling the stories behind their names.
Most graves are unknown and lost to history.
Some are famous.
And some infamous....
....and some with tragic endings.
#Graves #Cemeteries #Death
Would love to see Brittan start his own channel and follow up on this. He seems truly passionate about it.
Yessss he's good I would tune in and watch him as well☺️
Or at the very least, team up with Ron for research & exploring! ❤️
So very sad to see people tossed away like that. I'm in Colorado and the "oldest" cemetery in Denver, Riverside, and Cheesman Park are linked. Cheesman was a cemetery and the city wanted the land for a park, so they started moving bodies and markers to Riverside. At first, they were very meticulous and the whole situation devolved when the cost started to rise. There are several mass graves at Riverside (a little marker that just says, "Colorado Children's Home," just brought me to tears), but they even abandoned that effort and the city just paved over hundreds of graves that still remain. I couldn't imagine that happening to one of my relatives.
Yeah I remember that place. I've even heard there's supposedly more places like that in NYC. It's crazy to think they even did something like this.
So sad! The lack of respect for those who have lived before us, heartbreaking
money talks. Those are some expensive houses built on the old graves
My great great great grandfather is buried in a little graveyard in the woods. The churxh i've learned burned down around 1903 or 1904. The was left to be forgotten. People built a home next to the graveyard. The homeowners took it upon themselves to mow the grass(?) and weed whacked where needed. These are good human beings. We learned who we could tell, were veterans. Every Memorial day we place flags on the graves. A total opposite of this terrible situation you exposed Ron.
Bless them!!!! Bravo!
Can't wait to find out this mystery. If their bodies were dug up and moves to that wooded area an reburied thw headstones would bw above their graves. Obviously thats not the case. Looks like maybe the bodies weren't moved and headstones were just thrown in there and discarded. That is so disrespectful and sad. 😔
This is why I’m here. Love the unknown. They deserve to be seen and remembered. I think you’ve found a real graveyard of those from years and years ago.
Ron, you & Brittan did a great job doing this video!!!!!!💖💖💖
Thank you Debbie ❤
It's so sad. It's disgusting that development can move the dead. Cemeteries are sacred. Where i used to live there's a building off a bluff and when renovations were done on the grounds human bones were found. It's said back in the day they knew it was a cemetery and supposedly moved the bodies. It's just wrong!
Has anyone checked with Montrose Cemetery office to see if the graves of these individuals are at the current cemetery?
I believe they moved quite a few for a London high-speed railway when it was being built in 2017, 60,000 bodies to be exhumed, St James Gardens, 1790 to 1853. There was a campaign to stop it , 500 trees for the chop too, phase 1 at Eustan Station went through, to be all finished by 2026. Money always comes before people, always has. Sad.
after watching these types of videos... it makes me realize you're dead and no longer are important to society... why spend 15k on a funeral? and you shouldn't be... your body wont contribute anything dead... life goes own, even if you don't lol... that respect to the dead bs is nothing but a ploy for the govt to make money, why should a dead persons family have to pay a death tax and etc? maybe there is a heaven maybe there's a hell... what does the body care about either tho? that being said... it doesn't matter what happens to a body during death, they're dead and don't know anything...
@@malcolmkeith816 would you want your body treated like that?
My elementary school was built over a cemetery, so they say. It always bothered me.
This dude is very good he should have his own channel.
Really would be interesting to find out more this
That’s what u call the forgotten faces so sad what a mess after death they should still be respected even more ❤️💔😭
I forgot on my previous msg that my grandfather was a civil war veteran. He was wounded twice, once at Gettysburg and Antietam. He held the rank of Sgt Major at the end of the war. I am very proud of my grandpa.
It would be amazing if someone could donate ground penetrating radar services to see exactly what is under that area.
I definitely agree. Hopefully that may happen.
@Queen Bee you read my mind I was thinking the same thing that they should bring out a ground penatrating radar to locate and move the remains to a proper spot and put in a new headstone
That sould be a great idea
i totally agree!! ur right! He deserves to be donated sme thng like tht so he can delve deeper in to these peoples stories! x
perhaps archeology students could practice with their university's GPR
Love your channel so interesting. Those poor people that thought they were buried and resting in peace. I’m from Bristol UK and we had a cemetery that was privately owned called Arnos Vale. The owner let it get run down and decided to sell it to developers. The council stepped in and made a compulsory purchase order. It is amazing they’ve done to the place. There are volunteers that help to run it. There is so much history attached to the cemetery. They do tours explaining the different types of head stones the people buried there, wild life talks. My husbands old home used to back on to the cemetery and he would get deer in his garden, which is unusual as it’s in the middle of the city! If you get the chance look it up, maybe use it as an example to save this cemetery. Keep up the good work you are doing.
These graves need to be reported because they have family members and there were other cemeteries in Cook County that did something like this. God bless their souls and all the ones who are misplaced.
god dont care
God does care or you wouldn't be here@@PRHILL9696
This is disrespectful and a disgrace. Who owns the property, now? Can't someone clean it up? Thanks Ron & Brittan
Oh my gosh! My old boyfriend and I as teenagers use to travel the railroad tracks here back in the mid 70's to go see this cemetery. He had told me about it and called it "The Lost Cemetery" .....it was scary. I can't believe it's still there! I remember when they tore up the tracks to make a bike path. Funniest thing is that I was just telling my son-in-law about this place a few days ago and then your video popped up!
Have the gravestones been in the same spots this whole time or does it look different in the video? I've been here with my friends in the last couple years!
It would be useful to have surveyors, historians and even archaeologists working on this.
Please continue that story/investigation. There are probably so many places like that. Makes me not want to be buried!! Wow!!!
This was such a fascinating episode, who knew this was hidden back there? It’s so sad that their graves were disrespected in such a way. I hope more comes to light on this, and hopefully someday the deceased will be reunited with their headstones.
I could hear the guest easily.
A lot of people knew it was there 50 plus years ago
I've also seen episodes of people finding abandoned mausoleums. Caskets laying out, and some bones laying around. It's horrible. I don't understand how mausoleums get abandoned.
@@EmilyTienne not the place for a political discussion
@@EmilyTienne I guess you don’t seem to realize that this is a video about a forgotten cemetery and how sad that is. Someone always seems to think they need to interject political views to get people off the subject and start a political argument when it’s not the subject at hand. There are other forums where they can argue away to their content. And I didn’t change the subject, the first person to enter a political post did, so don’t blame me. You are just a troll here promoting politics and trying to carry on the argument 😡
Should get like history section of an university behind this. Montrose cemetery board should have records but if somebody covered up things years ago, which may have easily been done, its gonna be hard to prove. Maybe like ground radar thru the university could see graves? Good blessings to all. R.i.p
@@RockinStacy i found same funeral director family has owned cemetery since 1902. They maybe covered it up. Grave stones in woods are 1920s so there should be records unless state government is crooked to. I've found some living descendants hope ron starts there and not with funeral home cause they all family. If anything should get a news crew in on it. I have a feeling its a cover up job. I've sent Ron info on hagop kirishian family line.
There is a university literally two blocks away-- Northeastern University. In case you feel like starting something.
Outrageous! Montrose Cemetery has a lot of explaining to do!
Good job Ron and thank you Britton for your historical information.👍😊
City Hall should have records about the cemetery.
Thank you Mr. Ron and Mr. Britton. One of your best. I would enjoy an episode 2.
Wow. This is amazing,tragic and so sad. I hope there is a follow up on what happened there. Brittan's knowledge on this , and history in general is astounding. What a blessing to be able to spend the day with someone so knowledgeable and learn so much.Thank you for traveling through the woods and sticky thorns to bring us this episode.
I'm so happy you're going to follow up. Thank Briton for his courage and knowledge into this nightmare. Another great video just in time for the Halloween season.. because that's pretty much where it belongs, under Halloween. What a mess. I'm praying the bodies are found and someone cleans that place up. I'm heart sick at the amount of desecration of graves. Thank you for this jaw dropping video.
Please, please, please follow up.
Ok fellas, great job showing us all the questionable refuse…. But the leather face with scary booing was too much for my weak kneed self. Lol. I loved hearing about the Snells. I have Snell kin living in the area there….so I will be making some inquiries. Take care, see you soon, I hope.
Great job on the video Ron and Britton. This is so heartbreaking being thrown away and forgotten like this, but Ron will not let them be forgotten
Oh I just got a sick feeling. My great grandparents are buried there at Montrose as are most of my grandfathers family. My grandparents had bought lots there as well but wanted to be by their only daughter who had lots in Mt. Emblem so those graves were never going to used. When my grandfather died, his cousin was saying she and her husband tried to get graves there but they were all taken so they could not be in that cemetary by her parents. We gave her my grandparents lots and that was 25 years ago. I noticed when I went to the cemetery there were newer graves just next to that oriental section. Maybe they were dug up and those graves resold.
This was a great video. Feel so sad for those graves😢
Oh my. This is so sad. This needs to be investigated Ron. I thank you for doing this.
Wow! You know "some palms were greased" in this venture! The bodies are almost ALWAYS left where they were originally buried, & the markers discarded, paperwork is "edited" or simply lost, & when the people responsible are questioned, there's a whole lot of shoulder shrugging ...hopefully some of the relatives of these people can start inquiries into a possible Montrose Cemetary plot map? Or cemetary boundary markers? Maybe they could also start a few chats with the neighbors who may have dug up bodies/coffins while building their homes?
Good evening all from stormy Texas. Hope the power stays on for this one.
I can’t imagine to be thrown away and forgotten about
That’s it - I’m getting cremated when my time comes.
@@PeppieP i always said I wanted to be buried and definitely not cremated. After watching all these videos, I’ve changed my mind.
@@redmage777 I know but just imagine the people in houses and they find human bones under their house or in their gardens, how will that effect them. I do feel that as these people have been buried, the least that can be done is that the grounds are looked after and not ploughed over and houses built on their bones 💀💀💀
I used to dig graves in a few remote towns that were once boom towns. At one, the markers were once mostly timber. When the town declined, a fire took out most of the markers, and another fire later at the Council building took out the burial records. There is now around 300 known locations, but 2500 burials. If I was digging a grave in an older area I always had to have a back up location in case someone was already in there - which wasn't uncommon. At another cemetery, the whole old indigenous area had become lost and overgrown, and was nothing more than a rumour. I tried to get in there many times but it was just too thick.
simply amazing. i would love to know the truth.
This was a very interesting coverage of forgotten/abandoned graves...
Some of those markers could have been pushed over due to extreme water flow ....
I like to think that although these deceased people seemed "forgotten" .... They are in Heaven and not in pain or sadness anymore.
Thank you for caring, this is really nice of you to remember the "forgotten" 🙏
WOW!! Absolutely fascinating video!! Great job Ron and Britton!! Glued to my screen! Really hope this can be solved.
I think the t.b. sanitarium, which was progressive in operation as opposed to prison like, was closed in the 70s. I read at the library that almost 700 were cremated in the boiler house with the tall brick smoke stack, which is connected by tunnel to the morgue which is now the basement of the park's athletic building.
The Peterson Park parsal originally an orchard and nursery which sourced many of the trees to replant after the Chicago fire was donated by old man Peterson to the state or county for the sanitarium after his wife died of tuberculosis. When it closed it was suppose to be privately developed as a shopping center but a community group rallied to ensure it was designated for public use.
Great discovery! I'd love to see more of that quintessential Chicagoan, Brittan! Great stories and bringing all of this research and perspective together.
I've come across parts of livestock at Labagh when I was younger but attributed it to those practicing Santaria.
I'm no expert but if you could get burial records from from pauper burials, the cylinders with numbers could be actually markers for the paupers
Could the numbered cylinders be marking pauper graves, looks like they are upright with the numbers up. I believe you covered another cemetery by a hospital which had numbered markers. Development in the area may have diverted water to cause the area to flood. Seems if the markers were just dumped for disposal they would be piled with no sequence.
I was thinking it was a washout or flood.
I know that the cemetery some of my family is buried in have markers like that at every corner. It's different lots/areas. It makes it easier for the cemetery to use to find certain grave etc. It doesn't hurt to ask questions at the office which I did 😊
Just what I was thinking.
Totally agree! I have been to a lost cemetery that had "unknown souls" 1 through 22.
No way those circular numbered stones aren't graves when they're lined up so closely--perfectly for grave next to grave. They have to be paupers' graves. It's a big town with an old cemetery and the dates include World War 1 (1914-1918), when many citizens went to join the fight and/or fight with/for relatives, and a major pandemic (1918) when whole families could have died with no one to pay for the graves. And that's NOT counting the Tuberculosis place.
Historic Aerials shows the area now covered by the housing development as part or directly connected to Montrose Cemetery. Roadways are clearly present as part of the cemetery as late as the 1970's.
Excellent Ron ! And thanks go to Britton , you Sir , are a fount of knowledge a bought this sad and forlorn place.
Hope to learn more about this.
This has got to be one of the best episodes you have made so far Ron.
This cemetery is aerie but also makes my heart drop that all these people that were buried just cannot rest in peace. Hopefully these lands can be fixed up and hopefully no developments since there’s lots of bodies buried below I’m sure
What a wealth of information Britton had to share with us.
Awesome video, sad that they are left like this, really good episode
I looked up Montrose Cemetery in Chicago, Illinois/Cook County, and there seems to be a wonderful depiction of graves. I believe in the hunt you had with a man who showed you many discarded head stones. When will justice be found???
How sad that these people are forgotten and their resting place neglected. Thanks for bringing it to light. Keep up the exploring.♥️
This was a very mysterious and sad video. I love all the local and historical information Britain shared. It could be rather easily checked out I would think if they (the cemetery) could agree to do the ground radar. I hope all you bright sleuths will be able to get this mystery solved. Great video Ron.
Hi Ron, I was excited to see where you were for this video. Your friend spoke about the old tuberculosis center. Back in 2007 I did my masters internship at North River Mental Health which is located on the grounds. It was a neat place. I also at that time lived on Montrose Ave. right by the lake. Love your content!
Such a great video and so sad as well. Thank you and brit for doing this vid. Keep'em coming you rock!
Definitely need to figure this one out!!
This is so very sad. Breaks my heart 💔. May the ones buried there R.I.P.
Uncle Ron! My adopted Uncle in my head! You and your adventures, knowledge and empathy of each episode. Not to mention your wonderful presentation and humanity is why you are my favorite UA-camr! Thank you 😊 You are the journalist and great story teller of the forgotten 👏🏾.
Glad you are shinning a light on this. Thank you
Hi Ron, Lori here from Ontario Canada, I have been watching your videos for a while now and I love them. Thank you for telling those people's stories, I can't wait to see what's next.
Oh wow!! So many questions going through my head right now! What an amazing find and a good shout out Brittan and Ron! Love this!! ☺️ Hope you find out more info for us! 👍
Fascinating!! Great video ❤️
So sad, bless you both for bringing these souls some love and respect.
From google images it’s fairly obvious to me the area with new house is the site for the removed head stones and the developer even used the original roads in the cemetery by the Satelite images but that’s to obvious I’d be thinking the person or persons responsible had never thought Satalite images would ever be a thing
This was so sad, but also interesting. Could it be the stones were moved in order to make room for new houses? So sad. These people were REALLY forgotten. Thank you for bringing this to attention. 🙏🏻❤️
It's so polite for your passenger to sit there so silently and not interrupt you :)
GreatVideo! Mr. Britton had historical background of the area and the cemeteries. Thank you so much for yourhsrd work.
This is a wonderful story on a whole different level. Keep on sending your incredible work!
There's a real old cemetery in Southern Illinois near lake Carlyle. You have to take a path and then all of a sudden there's this old cemetery from the 1700 and 1800s untouched. I haven't Been there in over 20 years but I would love it if we could find that cemetery and clean it up... I live about 4 hours from it. Springdale Cemetery in Peoria...theres headstones laying in gully around Cemetery
Remember Labagh Woods from when I Lived on the Northwest Side,never knew that there was an abandoned cemetery there.Fascinating Story.
So sad … thank you for taking us along .. So many questions & hopefully answers one day 🙏💜
How awesome is this video!! Also… your purple shirt/jacket looks amazing on you 💕
Could try n plot out the locations of stones etc. with GPS and note the direction they face etc. and plot it all out on paper. . . then you could maybe get an idea of the layout and make some sense of the place? Just an idea.
Thanks for sharing this ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING video, gentlemen!! XXXX
Its so so sad these graves n head stones hve been left like this! thank god you tell their stories!! total respect 2 u!❤❤ love ur videos! xx
Love watching your videos...Thank you for doing this...
How really sad. Glad tho you are making these not forgotten anymore. It breaks my heart to see these like this.
Could it be they were suppose to be in Montrose Cemetery and were paid to relocate them then tossed them?
Aren’t there laws to prevent this kind of thing ? I respect you two so much for unraveling this
Unfortunately, not too many laws are followed, unless harsh jail is accompanied.
Laws don't matter to some people, when it comes to money.
@@melindaroop1346 you are so correct on that statement.
I think ur brilliant!!! u tell these stories and let the world know about those who hve been forgotten. You do it with so much respect though!! So so much respect 2 u! I thnk ur brilliant, live watching u!❤❤
You can find the lost Cemetery in LaBaugh Woods on Find a Grave. These graves they say are suppose to be buried in Montrose Cemetery, but unfortunately they were left behind 😟
yep, thought so.
the question is- where are the folks who were buried between them and what is now the cemetery border? family homes now....yikes.
a handful of small voices have been trying to bring attention to this and thus far, deaf ears. hope that changes tonight.
@@FacesoftheForgotten Who would you email about this - I’m over in the UK but think this is awful. These people paid to be buried n a cemetery not under a house or someone’s roses in the garden. It just not right.
@@PeppieP - i’ve done my part. Now let’s see what happens.
Cool video very interesting to see what is hidden .Great exploration!!!
This episode is amazing! Love all the history. I feel so terrible for these lost and forgotten. I really would like to know more about this situation and get to the bottom of what happened. I do have “poltergeist” feelings. RIP
I am curious....do you think you ever had a spirit follow you home after one of your cemetery tours? I am enjoying your channel!
Yes I have
I would love to hear about the spirit experience you had....benevolent, I hope.
@@susannacloer3599 I would, too!! Fingers crossed he will...
@@FacesoftheForgotten don’t scare me 😟
@@FacesoftheForgotten would you please do a video on it really intreged, Thanks 🙏
Cool Northwestern shirt, I missed your Sunday walk live (Oct 10, 2021) as I was at a NU vs NIU fall baseball game. What I found interesting is many of the graves were marked Montrose Cemetery on Find a Grave. My paternal great grandparents and two great uncles were buried at Montrose from 1912 to 1940's, my great uncles died in their 20's in 1914 and 1924/1925. What would be interesting is to see if there are also grave markers for these people (found in the woods) at Montrose cemetery. When I grew up in the 70's & 80's there were always bills to my dad from Montrose cemetery for grave upkeep, at the time I didn't know why, but I know now, I am not sure if my dad ever paid them. We haven't received a bill in ages.
Here are your answers. The stones were discarded cause the land was sold off to developers. The graves were left because as you said they became part of mother earth & the homes were built on the land.
That is so interesting would be awesome to find out about the family
Seeing all the tombstones that looked like they were just haphazardly placed makes me think that they were moved and the bodies/bones of the people are still buried elsewhere. It's so sad and disrespectful that a house may be built on top of graves.
Loved this episode. I’m intrigued.
That was fantastic,I'm in England have just watched it .....How sad to discard headstones etc like that 😭, I hope something is done about this now.Ron and Britan thank you for bringing this to people's attention , and I bet it's not the first time???.Thanks Ron.🎃💀
Please post a follow-up if and when authorities do anything about this.
Been along hospital shift lastnight...Just catching up Ron on seeing what these despicable ppl could desecrate other lost soul's graves and just forget.... Local government structure needs putting in place so things like this never happen again This is on unacceptable & really sad...great content sir as Allways.. {{even the forrest looks like it's dying}}
Very intelligent young man and has done extensive research. Great video sir ! That is so so sad ! Step up Chicago and fix this !
Very interesting!! Great show🙏🙏RIP🙏🙏
Very intriguing video. It's so sad to think these graves may have been treated so disrespectfully. Thanks to you and Britain (sp?)!
Wonderful discovery ---this is the community coming together. It sounds plausible that these are at the least markers from a pauper burial site from that TB hospital mentioned
Thank you for your hard work Ron!
That was creepy!
Thank you for sharing
I have a feeling 😕 that houses 🏘️ were built on top of graves
Like the movie Poltergeist 😱
Whoever they are…and whatever they endured…peace, love & rip to all of them. Very, very sad. 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹😢
@@shirleyvalentine2794 Ty Shirley. Hugs to you! ♥️
Ron that is so sad they are thrown away like they are nothing.You are such a great man to do what you do.I enjoy watching all your videos. Thanks for doing what you do. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK RON.
Such a sad ending to these poor souls! Thanks for the walk guys, interesting story though. ☮️💜
It is a pretty swampy area. I would imagine that the stones that are moved around are in the swampy areas. They get moved every winter when it freezes and thaws several times through the season.