hmmm, they should have tested a while ago if their avatar can survive said transplantation (spoiler, no it does not) and that would lead to very unpleasant conversation during dinner: "hey john, i think something is wrong with my thermal sensor, it show you as room temperature for some reason... are you listening to me? why are you fixing my neck like that-ho-dear-god-THE-THEETH!!!" more likely something adjacent to a ghoul with a weakers versions of their flaws.
Well, there is also a group of ghouls (from the Twin Cities VtM comic) that can steal and implant vampire body parts, to gain discipline powers, and, surprise surprise: ```The Wolves in Sheep's Clothing appear to have a unifying symbol in the form of a shepherd's crook crossed over by an "X" (possibly a reference to the Greek letter "Chi").```
A Focus is a tool that the mage uses to channel his magick. it can be a wand, staff, money, drugs or anything that has meaning for the mage really. Usually a mage has multiple foci
And I mean in the logic of the setting it's magik, but to it to work the wizard need to put the pointy part in the flesh of someone to have the magic stab
@@migrivp2672 there is Dō, wich is basically karate-magic. A non-mage *can* use Dō and all its bullshit abilities, BUT only if that non-mage has learend it thoroughly and does moves correctly. An akashayama mage (imagen a wuxia character but in real world) can use magic *without* Dō, but it would require that this mage has some other similar focus.
@@migrivp2672 in one review of MTA there was an example of a cowboy magician, with a revolver focus. Dude was VERY SURE that he could shoot like Clint Eastwood, and so he did. At the, iirc, 3rd level of matter, he understood that he doesn't need his focus to haul lead, just his hands. MTA is freeform and bonkers.
In case you haven’t started another Theburgerkrieg video yet, I’d personally like to recommend the video he did on Mummy The Resurrection because mummies are the actual good guy faction in world of darkness and that’s very unique in the setting, plus in my opinion they also are genuinely interesting in their own rite for various reasons. Also it’s one of the more popular theories for what Big D is in Hunter the Parenting.
There is Dō, wich is basically karate-magic. A non-mage *can* use Dō and all its bullshit abilities, BUT only if that non-mage has learend it thoroughly and does moves correctly. An akashayama mage (imagine a wuxia character but in real world) can use magic *without* Dō, but it would require that this mage has some other similar focus.
Funny thing @Airier a few months back my wife saw me watching one of your videos and she's like "Since when do you run a UA-cam channel?" Apparently, we look alike. Just remembered that and thought I'd share.
4:36 Consensus is, to put it simply, literally anything that exists in the real world, for the most part. We don't have fairies, or wizards, or dragons, or goblins, or even elves. Dwarves might get by without any potential consensus bending because they could easily just appear like a normal short human. Sometimes consensus can stretch because it's defined by whatever the local group of people believe is possible. In other words, an alien showing up at a conspiracy convention where everyone already believes little grey men exist wouldn't likely break consensus, because everyone there already believes they exist. It might bend it, however. One showing up and walking down the streets of NYC might cause consensus to freak the hell out and massive amounts of Paradox blip that alien right out of reality.
Thanks for video. 2:20 An interesting proposition, but you would definitely have to work hard to convince the DM and people in the game world. 4:30 As many will probably point out (and have pointed out), Burger refers to the WoD form of the Warp called Umbra. Here you can meet spirits, real fae, and so on. And just like the Warp, the Umbra spans the entire cosmos, so something alien can always appear. 7:50 This is very Russian roulette. Because while most werewolves will die, very rarely such a cross between a werewolf and a vampire will be created, and we're talking about a crazy creature that doesn't even think about hiding, and who, if he/she learned his/her new powers fully, would wreak unimaginable devastation. But usually werewolves and/or vampires would eliminate such a creature as quickly as possible. 9:02 Adam Jensen is the main character of the two newer parts of the Deus Ex series, who, due to the attack on the facility where he worked, received Robocop surgery, but without playing with his psyche. 14:10 I see you like what they produce. 19:15 The point here is probably that the management doesn't want to bother with covering up the death of such a person, so it's better that such person lives. 21:40 They are the bad guys from the mages perspective. And since we're looking at them from the perspective of the sleepers, they have the right to look like the good guys doing bad things to avoid a worse alternative. 31:50 I will say that they are even better than Mechanicus because they can move forward and create new things as a collective without the need for a named character. 40:30 Dull because they don't realize that they're assets. Burger probably expressed it best in the material about how he thinks that the series' Haniball Lecter is a Fae, and Will Graham is a mage from the Technocracy.
Finally! 🎉🤪 I LOVE MtA! And I LOVE this video series 🤭 Gosh, I love this channel 😅 Hope soon there'll be a reaction on the nine traditions and the vamps! 🤪
4:30 okay this is a bit extensive to explain in a comment but he's talking about the umbra which contains spirits, the dead, dreams, gods and some demons, plus mages. As well as every supernatural creature that isn't a vampire or werewolf. And yes in the far umbra outside the sol system's past the horizon wall consensus cthuluesque aliens and elder gods do exist. And reality is basically any mages bitch you can be as vulgar as you want and can be. If you want both inside the umbra and outside of the sol umbra you can make whole worlds planets if you have the right spheres you can make pocket dimensions where reality is your bitch and you're a very enthusiastic dominatrix.
Werewolves do exist in the Umbra. You're more likely to find them in the Penumbra, but they still regularly make forays into the Umbra, the Deep Umbra, and sometimes even travel beyond the Horizon. Many people believe that one of the lost Garou tribes, the Bunyip, might have packs that are hiding out somewhere in the Umbra. I mean, one of my favorite changing breeds, the Ratkin, burrowed into the Umbra during the Wars of Rage, and spent the next few thousand years just hanging out there in their nests and warrens. When the came back to this world, they found that everything was completely screwed up royally, so their plan now is just to gnaw away at the foundations and internal supports of everything until it all comes crashing down. The Umbra is just so wibbly-wobbly, where things make no sense and often play by their own rules, that the closest thing I can compare it to from another setting is the Warp.
@@oldeskulyes I know I was speaking specifically to the fact werewolves and vampires are the only ones that survive outside the umbra in any populated area inb4 reality zone yes I know this is less the case in the more mysterious, ruins and hidden places on earth like untouched forests but this specifically is becoming less a thing as humanity expands.
His video about the Hannibal tv show being about a fairy has really good insight about how someone can work under the Technocracy and not know it. I recommend you watch that one next.
4:56 well AKhtUalLy the puppet that appears in those commercials was not kermit! But a completely different puppet by the name of Willkins who was created in 1957 while mr the frog was made in 1955
Non-Consensus Reality is the Spirit Worlds, & that includes all of the stuff that you mentioned as The Dreaming (AKA the shared Dream Space of Humanity) as well as The Digital Web, (AKA Advanced Hyper-Virtual Reality,) the Umbra (Animistic reflection of our world,) Shadowlands (Ghostly reflection of our world,) and various Heavens & Hells of human imagination.
As I understand it, Objective Reality is any reality that doesn’t care about Consensus and even if every mage and sleeper agreed it wasn’t a thing, it would continue to exist in the world with them. The main example of Onbjective Reality in World of Darkness being vampires, as it doesn’t matter where you are in the world, almost nobody thinks that vampires exist. Kevin walking into his apartment building after becoming a vampire should have had some consequence on him as a result of his heart not beating and his only sustenance being blood. But because he’s cut off from Consensus, he was wholly unaffected by paradox for living in a place that doesn’t believe him to be possible. Though do take this with a couple grains of salt, I don’t actually know much about the lore of World of Darkness beyond what’s covered in videos like what Theburgerkrieg makes.
1:22 Foci is the plural of (magical) focus, yes. 3:30 Which itself is a joke on Clarke's third law (notice how Burger just mentioned "Clarketech") "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
4:45 among other things, including some contradictory things, God. The efficacy of Christianity based magic may depend on the consensus, the fact that God cursed Kane and created vampires as a result does not.
What up again Airier don't know if you aware there now 3 separate episode 1 dandadan abridge joyride grimjack and now smucks, still putting those suggestions amv hell 8 which funny actually has klingon as a subtitle opinion,joyride chainsaw man musical,hauntlich dnd cartoon review
So the tradeoff for Technomancy is less paradox, but higher dependency on tools. That’s “foci” are, items or tools the mage can be deprived of, that need to be used to cast magic. Overtime a Mage outgrows their strict reliance on their foci as their Arete/Enlightenment rises. Mystics get to outgrow foci faster because their tools are ultimately symbolic instruments, Technomancers take longer to get to a point where they can cast if they’re deprived of their tools.
@Miron_Marnic Eh, but Technocrats often get around that by integrating their foci, erasing the barrier between tool and user. Cybernetics is an archetypal good example, but so is stuff like genetic engineering to give yourself the ability to alter your physical makeup, memorized psychological models, or developing such an extreme net worth that people will do what you say based on the hypothetical money you could potentially give them. You could even have looser Etherite tier stuff like Mass Effect style Biotics for the Void Engineers, as a side effect of deep umbral travel or something. Meanwhile what Etherites and Virtual Adepts typically do is reach a point of "there is no spoon" not because they stopped believing in their theories but because theories like Ether theory or Correspondence Point theory allows for the possibility of reality warping at higher levels of experience and knowledge. Though one foci that Etherites, Virtual Adepts, Hermetics (who I count as just *barely* outside the category of technomancer, they're just so close to it), and anyone from the Technocracy can and do make *frequent* use of in my opinion, regardless of Arete/Enlightenment levels, is "I'm just that good". Especially if they have the experience to back that ego up
@user-ut5nx6hm9d Can you really say that the Hermetics are almost-technomancers, though? Sure, High Ritual Magic is well, Ritual, but Masters and Archmages can do almost anything by their will alone .
@Miron_Marnic In terms of their foci, High Ritual Magic can be as resource dependent and complicated as technomancy, while also demanding as much study and preparation. The reason I only call them *almost* technomancers is because they exert their will consciously on reality and their foci are symbolic rather than mechanical or scientific. That makes them Mystics. Theres also the matter of how they consolidate their Magic and treat it as a field of academic study like many technomancers do
Arier: How do you implant vampire into mage?
Every WoD fan: [coughs in Tremere]
hmmm, they should have tested a while ago if their avatar can survive said transplantation (spoiler, no it does not) and that would lead to very unpleasant conversation during dinner: "hey john, i think something is wrong with my thermal sensor, it show you as room temperature for some reason... are you listening to me? why are you fixing my neck like that-ho-dear-god-THE-THEETH!!!"
more likely something adjacent to a ghoul with a weakers versions of their flaws.
Well, there is also a group of ghouls (from the Twin Cities VtM comic) that can steal and implant vampire body parts, to gain discipline powers, and, surprise surprise: ```The Wolves in Sheep's Clothing appear to have a unifying symbol in the form of a shepherd's crook crossed over by an "X" (possibly a reference to the Greek letter "Chi").```
A Focus is a tool that the mage uses to channel his magick. it can be a wand, staff, money, drugs or anything that has meaning for the mage really. Usually a mage has multiple foci
So you can play a magik less wizard where the foci is a knife and the only magik he can do is stab with his foci
And I mean in the logic of the setting it's magik, but to it to work the wizard need to put the pointy part in the flesh of someone to have the magic stab
@@migrivp2672 there is Dō, wich is basically karate-magic.
A non-mage *can* use Dō and all its bullshit abilities, BUT only if that non-mage has learend it thoroughly and does moves correctly.
An akashayama mage (imagen a wuxia character but in real world) can use magic *without* Dō, but it would require that this mage has some other similar focus.
@@migrivp2672 in one review of MTA there was an example of a cowboy magician, with a revolver focus. Dude was VERY SURE that he could shoot like Clint Eastwood, and so he did. At the, iirc, 3rd level of matter, he understood that he doesn't need his focus to haul lead, just his hands.
MTA is freeform and bonkers.
Airier wondering if the spray camera can work
STOP YOU'RE INTRODUCING IT INTO CONSENSUS, THEY'RE GETTING TO YOU
4:29 eldritch horrors ,spirits and more.
7:55 it is very rare most werewolves can't be turned to vampire
In case you haven’t started another Theburgerkrieg video yet, I’d personally like to recommend the video he did on Mummy The Resurrection because mummies are the actual good guy faction in world of darkness and that’s very unique in the setting, plus in my opinion they also are genuinely interesting in their own rite for various reasons.
Also it’s one of the more popular theories for what Big D is in Hunter the Parenting.
There is Dō, wich is basically karate-magic.
A non-mage *can* use Dō and all its bullshit abilities, BUT only if that non-mage has learend it thoroughly and does moves correctly.
An akashayama mage (imagine a wuxia character but in real world) can use magic *without* Dō, but it would require that this mage has some other similar focus.
Funny thing @Airier a few months back my wife saw me watching one of your videos and she's like "Since when do you run a UA-cam channel?" Apparently, we look alike. Just remembered that and thought I'd share.
Go KITTY ! 🐈
"Kitty" used EyeLazer .
It was supper effective.
4:36 Consensus is, to put it simply, literally anything that exists in the real world, for the most part. We don't have fairies, or wizards, or dragons, or goblins, or even elves. Dwarves might get by without any potential consensus bending because they could easily just appear like a normal short human. Sometimes consensus can stretch because it's defined by whatever the local group of people believe is possible. In other words, an alien showing up at a conspiracy convention where everyone already believes little grey men exist wouldn't likely break consensus, because everyone there already believes they exist. It might bend it, however. One showing up and walking down the streets of NYC might cause consensus to freak the hell out and massive amounts of Paradox blip that alien right out of reality.
Thanks for video.
2:20 An interesting proposition, but you would definitely have to work hard to convince the DM and people in the game world.
4:30 As many will probably point out (and have pointed out), Burger refers to the WoD form of the Warp called Umbra. Here you can meet spirits, real fae, and so on. And just like the Warp, the Umbra spans the entire cosmos, so something alien can always appear.
7:50 This is very Russian roulette. Because while most werewolves will die, very rarely such a cross between a werewolf and a vampire will be created, and we're talking about a crazy creature that doesn't even think about hiding, and who, if he/she learned his/her new powers fully, would wreak unimaginable devastation. But usually werewolves and/or vampires would eliminate such a creature as quickly as possible.
9:02 Adam Jensen is the main character of the two newer parts of the Deus Ex series, who, due to the attack on the facility where he worked, received Robocop surgery, but without playing with his psyche.
14:10 I see you like what they produce.
19:15 The point here is probably that the management doesn't want to bother with covering up the death of such a person, so it's better that such person lives.
21:40 They are the bad guys from the mages perspective. And since we're looking at them from the perspective of the sleepers, they have the right to look like the good guys doing bad things to avoid a worse alternative.
31:50 I will say that they are even better than Mechanicus because they can move forward and create new things as a collective without the need for a named character.
40:30 Dull because they don't realize that they're assets. Burger probably expressed it best in the material about how he thinks that the series' Haniball Lecter is a Fae, and Will Graham is a mage from the Technocracy.
Finally! 🎉🤪 I LOVE MtA! And I LOVE this video series 🤭
Gosh, I love this channel 😅
Hope soon there'll be a reaction on the nine traditions and the vamps! 🤪
4:30 okay this is a bit extensive to explain in a comment but he's talking about the umbra which contains spirits, the dead, dreams, gods and some demons, plus mages. As well as every supernatural creature that isn't a vampire or werewolf. And yes in the far umbra outside the sol system's past the horizon wall consensus cthuluesque aliens and elder gods do exist. And reality is basically any mages bitch you can be as vulgar as you want and can be. If you want both inside the umbra and outside of the sol umbra you can make whole worlds planets if you have the right spheres you can make pocket dimensions where reality is your bitch and you're a very enthusiastic dominatrix.
Werewolves do exist in the Umbra. You're more likely to find them in the Penumbra, but they still regularly make forays into the Umbra, the Deep Umbra, and sometimes even travel beyond the Horizon. Many people believe that one of the lost Garou tribes, the Bunyip, might have packs that are hiding out somewhere in the Umbra.
I mean, one of my favorite changing breeds, the Ratkin, burrowed into the Umbra during the Wars of Rage, and spent the next few thousand years just hanging out there in their nests and warrens. When the came back to this world, they found that everything was completely screwed up royally, so their plan now is just to gnaw away at the foundations and internal supports of everything until it all comes crashing down.
The Umbra is just so wibbly-wobbly, where things make no sense and often play by their own rules, that the closest thing I can compare it to from another setting is the Warp.
@@oldeskulyes I know I was speaking specifically to the fact werewolves and vampires are the only ones that survive outside the umbra in any populated area inb4 reality zone yes I know this is less the case in the more mysterious, ruins and hidden places on earth like untouched forests but this specifically is becoming less a thing as humanity expands.
His video about the Hannibal tv show being about a fairy has really good insight about how someone can work under the Technocracy and not know it. I recommend you watch that one next.
4:56 well AKhtUalLy the puppet that appears in those commercials was not kermit! But a completely different puppet by the name of Willkins who was created in 1957 while mr the frog was made in 1955
Also you really need to watch the mage traditions vid he did.
Non-Consensus Reality is the Spirit Worlds, & that includes all of the stuff that you mentioned as The Dreaming (AKA the shared Dream Space of Humanity) as well as The Digital Web, (AKA Advanced Hyper-Virtual Reality,) the Umbra (Animistic reflection of our world,) Shadowlands (Ghostly reflection of our world,) and various Heavens & Hells of human imagination.
As I understand it, Objective Reality is any reality that doesn’t care about Consensus and even if every mage and sleeper agreed it wasn’t a thing, it would continue to exist in the world with them.
The main example of Onbjective Reality in World of Darkness being vampires, as it doesn’t matter where you are in the world, almost nobody thinks that vampires exist. Kevin walking into his apartment building after becoming a vampire should have had some consequence on him as a result of his heart not beating and his only sustenance being blood. But because he’s cut off from Consensus, he was wholly unaffected by paradox for living in a place that doesn’t believe him to be possible.
Though do take this with a couple grains of salt, I don’t actually know much about the lore of World of Darkness beyond what’s covered in videos like what Theburgerkrieg makes.
1:22 Foci is the plural of (magical) focus, yes.
3:30 Which itself is a joke on Clarke's third law (notice how Burger just mentioned "Clarketech") "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".
You're watching the Traditions video next, Airier. This is not a request, it's an order
4:45 among other things, including some contradictory things, God. The efficacy of Christianity based magic may depend on the consensus, the fact that God cursed Kane and created vampires as a result does not.
Watch it all
7:54 usually not. Very very rarely yes. And it is always a terrible idea.
All the above.
Arier please watch the rest of burgerkrieg’s World of Darkness lore videos, they are very informative
Will you react to mage traditions video?
What up again Airier don't know if you aware there now 3 separate episode 1 dandadan abridge joyride grimjack and now smucks, still putting those suggestions amv hell 8 which funny actually has klingon as a subtitle opinion,joyride chainsaw man musical,hauntlich dnd cartoon review
(=/) D
So the tradeoff for Technomancy is less paradox, but higher dependency on tools. That’s “foci” are, items or tools the mage can be deprived of, that need to be used to cast magic.
Overtime a Mage outgrows their strict reliance on their foci as their Arete/Enlightenment rises.
Mystics get to outgrow foci faster because their tools are ultimately symbolic instruments,
Technomancers take longer to get to a point where they can cast if they’re deprived of their tools.
This is true. However, technocrats can never outgrow their Foci, so... Etherites for the win, I guess?
@Miron_Marnic Eh, but Technocrats often get around that by integrating their foci, erasing the barrier between tool and user.
Cybernetics is an archetypal good example, but so is stuff like genetic engineering to give yourself the ability to alter your physical makeup, memorized psychological models, or developing such an extreme net worth that people will do what you say based on the hypothetical money you could potentially give them. You could even have looser Etherite tier stuff like Mass Effect style Biotics for the Void Engineers, as a side effect of deep umbral travel or something.
Meanwhile what Etherites and Virtual Adepts typically do is reach a point of "there is no spoon" not because they stopped believing in their theories but because theories like Ether theory or Correspondence Point theory allows for the possibility of reality warping at higher levels of experience and knowledge.
Though one foci that Etherites, Virtual Adepts, Hermetics (who I count as just *barely* outside the category of technomancer, they're just so close to it), and anyone from the Technocracy can and do make *frequent* use of in my opinion, regardless of Arete/Enlightenment levels, is "I'm just that good". Especially if they have the experience to back that ego up
@@user-ut5nx6hm9d That's a good point
@user-ut5nx6hm9d Can you really say that the Hermetics are almost-technomancers, though? Sure, High Ritual Magic is well, Ritual, but Masters and Archmages can do almost anything by their will alone .
@Miron_Marnic In terms of their foci, High Ritual Magic can be as resource dependent and complicated as technomancy, while also demanding as much study and preparation.
The reason I only call them *almost* technomancers is because they exert their will consciously on reality and their foci are symbolic rather than mechanical or scientific. That makes them Mystics.
Theres also the matter of how they consolidate their Magic and treat it as a field of academic study like many technomancers do