Nike Pegasus trail shoes are my favourite. Durable lightweight with decent grip and responsive. Decently priced too. Hiked from Lilydale Lake to Sassafras in them no problem.
With any shoe I feel is too tight over the toes I end up loosening the laces down the bottom rows and put a square knot 🪢 in half way up so all the tightening is pulled around the ankle not over the foot.
I do something similar normally Tim, however I find with these 6’s I’m really struggling to get my foot in the opening without really loosening the laces a lot… so much that I can’t actually lace the way I normally do as there isn’t actually enough lace😳… I’m thinking size 14’s might be worth a shot once my 13 wear out… or maybe I’ll try a different model or brand 🤔
I love my saucony echelon 8s now 9s in 4E. Min 1000km. It took me a while to find the durability with reasonable comfort. Pretty hard compound compared to the Hokas, but i love the durability for my long hikes 👌
Yes, the old footwear debate could go on forever… I’m a firm believer in trying out what works for you… everyone is different and has different needs… thanks for the thoughtful comments Jason they definitely add to the constructive discussion 👍😀
Ah shoes. The hikers bane. If you find one you like the manufacturer is sure to change it (under the guise of “improvement“. Plus if you hike like I do you’ll go through 2 pairs a year 🤣 I’ve just ticked over 1000ks in my 1st gen Saucony Xodus Ultras (about 800 hiking 200 trail running). Just noticing the cushioning is gone enough to need replacing for running - will get another 500 for hiking I think. Have a second pair of them for running then I have a pair of Altra Timp 5.0s. Seem comfy and the vibrant sole feels really grippy
@@anselmocat yes there is a difference between the effective forces put on the foam between running where 2.5 to 3x bodyweight force is put down vs walking/hiking. so it stands to reason that the cushioning will last longer for hiking/walking and you can still use the shoe for walking /hiking after it's not providing enough cushion for running anymore. Also the foam technology is important to consider. something like EVA foam which is used in Hoka Speedgoats won't be as durable in terms of miles of cushioning as some other EVA foams (like Saucony Pwrrun+) or TPEE and TPU foams. Finally the stack height of the foam is a factor (how much foam there is there e.g. 35mm in the heel vs 30mm and 25mm in the forefoot vs 20mm etc). Also the foam lasts longer if it's not used every day (e.g. if running rotate the shoes to allow foam to "decompress" longer between uses - 48 hours ideal)
@@anselmocat was more for the benefit of the original poster may not given he's using a shoe with a less durable foam in the speedgoat. 750 km is not a great return for just hiking.
Other good options to check out if you are looking for an alternative in a 2E - NB hierro (just as plush) - Hoka Challenger ATR (a bit firmer but super comfy, outsole wears quicker) - Asics trabuco max (not a 2E but fits wide. Super plush and hard wearing) That hole on the interior you can get a leather patch for.
Cheers Nick… thanks for the offer options… I think 750 kilometres for a trail runner isn’t too bad in these conditions ( I’m 105 kg with around another 15 on my back😉) so I probably won’t try and patch them as the cushioning has pretty well run its race I think 👍😀
@@slipperyjoines6629 it definitely requires more management, however I’ve been all good so far. It’s not just blisters either, trench foot is a real chance😳…as the Bibb videos progress you’ll see how extreme the conditions were that I put these trail runners through… I wanted to slot this video in to give people some real life feedback back on the new model👍😉
Nike Pegasus trail shoes are my favourite.
Durable lightweight with decent grip and responsive. Decently priced too.
Hiked from Lilydale Lake to Sassafras in them no problem.
With any shoe I feel is too tight over the toes I end up loosening the laces down the bottom rows and put a square knot 🪢 in half way up so all the tightening is pulled around the ankle not over the foot.
I do something similar normally Tim, however I find with these 6’s I’m really struggling to get my foot in the opening without really loosening the laces a lot… so much that I can’t actually lace the way I normally do as there isn’t actually enough lace😳… I’m thinking size 14’s might be worth a shot once my 13 wear out… or maybe I’ll try a different model or brand 🤔
I love my saucony echelon 8s now 9s in 4E. Min 1000km. It took me a while to find the durability with reasonable comfort. Pretty hard compound compared to the Hokas, but i love the durability for my long hikes 👌
Yes, the old footwear debate could go on forever… I’m a firm believer in trying out what works for you… everyone is different and has different needs… thanks for the thoughtful comments Jason they definitely add to the constructive discussion 👍😀
Ah shoes. The hikers bane. If you find one you like the manufacturer is sure to change it (under the guise of “improvement“. Plus if you hike like I do you’ll go through 2 pairs a year 🤣
I’ve just ticked over 1000ks in my 1st gen Saucony Xodus Ultras (about 800 hiking 200 trail running). Just noticing the cushioning is gone enough to need replacing for running - will get another 500 for hiking I think. Have a second pair of them for running then I have a pair of Altra Timp 5.0s. Seem comfy and the vibrant sole feels really grippy
@@anselmocat yes there is a difference between the effective forces put on the foam between running where 2.5 to 3x bodyweight force is put down vs walking/hiking. so it stands to reason that the cushioning will last longer for hiking/walking and you can still use the shoe for walking /hiking after it's not providing enough cushion for running anymore. Also the foam technology is important to consider. something like EVA foam which is used in Hoka Speedgoats won't be as durable in terms of miles of cushioning as some other EVA foams (like Saucony Pwrrun+) or TPEE and TPU foams. Finally the stack height of the foam is a factor (how much foam there is there e.g. 35mm in the heel vs 30mm and 25mm in the forefoot vs 20mm etc). Also the foam lasts longer if it's not used every day (e.g. if running rotate the shoes to allow foam to "decompress" longer between uses - 48 hours ideal)
@@huzcerthanksI knew all that already 🤣
@@anselmocat was more for the benefit of the original poster may not given he's using a shoe with a less durable foam in the speedgoat. 750 km is not a great return for just hiking.
Other good options to check out if you are looking for an alternative in a 2E
- NB hierro (just as plush)
- Hoka Challenger ATR (a bit firmer but super comfy, outsole wears quicker)
- Asics trabuco max (not a 2E but fits wide. Super plush and hard wearing)
That hole on the interior you can get a leather patch for.
Cheers Nick… thanks for the offer options… I think 750 kilometres for a trail runner isn’t too bad in these conditions ( I’m 105 kg with around another 15 on my back😉) so I probably won’t try and patch them as the cushioning has pretty well run its race I think 👍😀
Have you found that having wet tootsies can increase the likelihood of rubbing into blisters? Or are your feet well seasoned for all conditions ?
@@slipperyjoines6629 it definitely requires more management, however I’ve been all good so far. It’s not just blisters either, trench foot is a real chance😳…as the Bibb videos progress you’ll see how extreme the conditions were that I put these trail runners through… I wanted to slot this video in to give people some real life feedback back on the new model👍😉
@@goinferal5815 looking forward to learning more via your thoroughly enjoyable journeys. Warming up in SEQ
@@slipperyjoines6629 yes, I’m seeing that on the news… and Tassie is flooded too… crazy🫣
Is it worth to buy compare to spg5
I’ll keep using Speedgoats although I might go up a size I think😉