@@josephvincze1077 i wish that was true for everyone. my father is the most arrogant and egotistical person ive ever met. he will defend something that he fully knows is wrong just because of his ego.
I am almost 74 years old. When I was in my early 20s "1971" I studied under Alan Chadwick, the English actor who brought French Intensive, Biodynamic gardening ideas to America. It sounds confusing, but to get to basic...don't feed the plant, feed the soil. There is a lot more to it than that, but no time to get into it now. With that knowledge I have shown many students how to grow more food than they know what to do with in a very small area. I really enjoyed starting community gardens. I also was aware of what happened shortly before I was born in the midwest. In just a few decades the Great Plains, a vast area of prolific grasslands, with herds of Bison by the millions, was turned into a dust bowl by farming. I accidentaly found Allen Savory today searching the web. I've spent my life improving soil from the knowledge I got from Allen
"Because we scientists are human. We interpret data to fit our beliefs. We don't fit our beliefs to the data and realize the data is telling us that our belief is wrong." Wow. What honesty and humility.
The fact that Allan receives huge resistance from the cattle industry (which is mainly composed of feed lots and the feed producers) suggests to me that this technique works. Plus, people fail to remember that historically areas the 2/3 of the US and other areas were covered with tens of millions of animals such as the buffalo that would be described as black seas of flesh going on for miles. The key is to graze the animals in small areas to let them eat and do their thing, then move them off to fresh land. The previously eaten land is then protected for 3 to 4 months to allow it to uptake the nutrients and regrow. Essentially using the animals as lawn mowers and fertilizers. People that gripe about this process keep thinking of the standard practices of just throwing animals out in huge areas of land and letting them go whereas this method you create paddocks to keep the animals together like a herd so they concentrate their efforts.
It's not just about eating more meat. It's about eating more beef, poultry, and pork from farmers who practice rotational grazing and other forms of biological mimicking. If you go to the store and buy a pound of grain fed, CAFO, feedlot raised beef instead of a normal pound grass-fed meat you are actually putting money in the pockets of people who do not care about managing the land and only care about putting money in their pockets. This shopping behavior is the biggest killer of the american grassland. Buy grass-fed meat and pastured pork and chicken and wild game meat and address climate change, animal mistreatment, small business, and most importantly your own health.
Much of the land in the US can support cattle, with out using his method. But we also don't have food shortages. Certainly the desert areas where people cannot feed themselves, need to be employing his methods.
Biological mimicking? Where do you find in our nature that hosts thousands of cows in a small region? Trees dominates grass naturally. The only reason why we have grassland is because of human deforestation and intensive farming resulting in land degradation and hence grassland.
More People lived on the land and farmed the land in the 40's. In the 50's it really changed. There is so much to do on our planet to keep it alive, no one need to be out of work. I love this Guy! He has done much to help the entire world.
Allan Savory and the Savory Institute's work is vital, not only to the wool industry, but to the farming industry and the whole world. Imagine if the whole world could practice this level of sustainable farming while improving the environment and reducing the impact of global warming. For wool this is another huge plus, we have a natural, sustainable and biodegradable product and the production of this product can benefit the environment in a significant way. Lets see the end of synthetics and a return to natural materials and natural practices.
YES! The importance of food produced locally in an ecologically sustainable manner has recieved a lot of attention - but I have never seen anyone else but myself talk about the hugely damaging impact of synthetic, man-made fibers - known in the textile world as 'chemical fibers'. Thank you for bringing this up!
It gives me faith in humanity when I see people like Alan savory admit that he’s been wrong for so many years and decades. Unfortunately he had to make gigantic mistakes in order to see the truth. Better late than never? Or is it too late?
I don't think so. Between this kind of thinking and regenerative farming that can include livestock or not, we have a good chance at solving the global warming crisis. As as been pointed out many times, we can stop putting more CO2 into the atmosphere (this is important, I have electric cars myself), but it won't stop global warming unless we take the excess CO2 we've been responsible for out of the atmosphere, and the best way to do that is through regenerative farming with cover crops and restoring grasslands, both of which suck more CO2 out of the air than rainforests or forests, believe it or not. And reclaiming the deserts in the world would be an enormous help. It looks like this would be an excellent way to do it. BTW, the best way to slow population growth is to educate girls. Educated girls just tend to have fewer children-and better lives, for that matter.
It's too late.....the people are addicted to the Westernization and Greed has instilled in their hearts. No pointing fingers but I believe this is cause by you know whom......the develop nations that "ignored" the principals of the Tribal Nation....before they (European, Develop Nations) tried to "reinvent the wheel and thought they are better than God...….The driving force of western countries and Globalist Nations will not listen to this "concept" people are too addicted to the "Paper Chasing" culture and Greed. Money and Greed is what will destroy "human kind" if not now....it will be later.
Its never to late, he said within one year it was 50% better, thats more than a miracle, its Gods grace that we understood something, the best thing is no technology, that tells me that we think to complex. We fly to the moon and dont understand farming on the planet earth. Gods still laughing at us, seek and you shall find.
@@SuperBenette I agree with you with "fixing" what we have here on earth instead of flying to the moon to do what.....migrate the issues and duplicate what we did or doing here on earth..... Human's and humanity must not waste another "atom" of energy to do scientific research outside our existing livable planet. What truly needs to happen is to "take the resources that we have available now" to do more studies on the issues that is affecting earth today and to further explore and know more about what is under the sea floor. We need to also "radically" change the way we have been acting and thinking because the "Modern, system is obviously flawed" Modernization has completely removed us from "balance of nature" and made today's society out of touch from "reality" Our activities as people and this "NEW WAVE OF CULTURE/thinking" marketed and heavily pursued European Race to bring about division amongst people has cause a "pacific rim of fire" between the Tribal way of life and the "New Way Of Life" Uprooted and forced upon the "Tribal people of the world/ Ancient Nations" to adapt a new way of life..... a culture's only aim is to "control society and control the resources of the world" and so that the European Nations/ White Race can benefit from it all......that is the issue today....the GREED and the ambition of "White Countries and people" to rule over the "Known Tribal People" thus much of what you see today is in "ruins"......depleted and division..... Because, the "White Culture"...….New Culture....which does not respect God or the Ancient Tribal way of life as being "primitive" due to the "White ignorance and arrogance" in which they have brought with them and continue to market throughout the world......This new system is unlike the ancient teachings.....this new system brought by the "Neo Race" is all about "self satisfaction" self fulfillment and selfishness to the core..... it is years and years and years and years and years of "exploiting people and exploiting resources" and not "fearing GOD" This "White Race" new way of life and new culture does not "respect" the basic fundamental "way of life" and other's thus earth today "suffers" and showing signs of degradation and stress in all signs...….if we continue on this "path of greed and self serving" way of life......we as human's will perish and we are on the path of "self destruction" we must "reverse the process" and we must "go back" to the "Tribalism" way of life.....the respect for nature and the "balance of all humanity" not just "The White Race" but it is for all......Tribalism way of life....is not "dead" it is under "hibernation" waiting for the "White Rule and Greed" to collapse within itself and eventually.....Tribalism way of life will then again emerge from the "ruins" of the "New White World/Develop Nations" ……..I am not surprise to see bickering amongst the democrats and the republican's is only the beginning but it is the "start of human destruction" and which will push us to human extinction if we stay on this path. Both democrat and republican system "play's off" the same "path" both do not have the interest of "Nature and Balance" your either on the far right or your in the far left......only small percent in the middle.....this is the "pacific rim of fire" bickering about "Self fulfillment" and forgetting about the whole world.....a world of "bubble" self fulfilling arrogant breed of people blinded by their own "social status" and forgetting who is truly "in charge" of our life...…...This kind of "new Culture" is trying to "REINVENT THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE" and forgetting that "Ancient People" has already "figured that all out" thus the ancient's allow the "new to take place" because the "Higher Ancient learning and People" already know the outcome and the result of this "Demonic New World" that we live in "today"...……. The day of reckoning is near and it will strike those "Abaddon Race" with ferocity......for their disobedience to God's Commandments...….mark my word....no "human" is greater than GOD. No self proclaim king is greater than the "King" of all King's. Nobody is greater than GOD Himself......for his "kingdom" will have no end...….Change your ways.....White Neo Culture" adapt your ways to the old Tribal Ancient ways......and you will save this planet and save yourself......Because on judgment day....I will come to judge the living and the dead spirit's and those who care not to listen.....I will put and bring them to the Abyss...…..when judgement day comes.
It broke my hard for you and the elephants both when you said how many were killed. I truly feel for u and know this must have been or is a horrible night mare u have had to relieve over and over throughout ur life. Thank u so much for making this wrong rite the only way u can, Not many people would stepup to the plate and do what u have done. Ur wisdom is a blessing to us all
if i may add to the story: the water vapourises from the soil, starting to turn into the vapor a meter beneath the surface. In normal green conditions, the water rises to the surface in its liquid form through micro capilary channels. Now the plants use these channels to push their roots through and meet their water supply. However, if the water vapourises and escapes so quickly from the soil, every seed that starts to germinate just dies. The soil which is covered retards the motion of vapour, but in addition to this, it is a good idea to have the soil in a shade. For that, good trees are inevitable in order to shade the soil and thus lower its temperature during the midday as well as to prevent cooler climates at the dawn. I am a traveller and as a traveller i sleep a lot outside in the wilderness. It became a rule for me to prefer to sleep under the trees, because it just feels warmer during the night, especially at the dawn. The trees act as a heat shield as well as wind break. During the midday, it is far more comfortable to spend time under a tree and that soil underneath feels it too. What I notticed once crossing mountains in Antiatlas of Morocco, I was passing through an oasis. There was a well under construction. This well was about 10 meters deep but down to about 4 meters the walls of that pit were densely full with roots of the trees. I have never seen such a thick set of roots. And guess what trees it were? Off course the date palms! My favourite fruit btw. These trees push so many roots, so deep in their search for water and they hold that soil so strong that there is no erosion possible if these trees are there. Right next week I went camping with other guys near Mhamid oasis, near Algerian border. There i observed desert acacia trees. Butiful nice conifers, that survived scattered around the desert. I notticed these trees were also on the tops of the highest dunes. That means these trees must have been there before the dunes rose higher and kept on growing as they were becoming buried under the sand. What was funny, even during the midday, when i dug into the dune, about 20cm underneath there was a bit of moisture, so I guess at the bottom of a sand dune there must have been a reasonable watertable and these acacias are using it and keep growing green, providing camels regular green food. I have seen, however, the nomads chasing the camels away from those trees, not to eat them too quickly.
Your English has mistakes, here is the correct English: If I may add to the story: The water evaporates from the top meter of the soil. In healthy well vegetated conditions, the water rises to the surface through capillary channels. Through those channels the plant roots grow. But when that water evaporates too quickly from the soil, germinating seeds die. ...
@@rolfpoelman3486 : Thanks Rolf. May I also attempt to perhaps bring my own view of the situation: This is a video for people who are interested in agro-saving-the-planet. Although, perfecting a language structure is a very admirable endeavor, it is probably the least of readers concern how Stanislav Kocur expressed himself, as long as the message went through. Besides, Stanislav (who is probably not a native English speaking person, based on his name) appear to practice relatively pretty good English, taking into account his possible origins. We probably cannot say the same for most English speaking individuals who do not give a damn about perfecting a second language. Perhaps, Rolf, you should attempt to rewrite your comment in Polish or Russian, just to see how you do, and then we can ask Stan to “correct your mistakes”
@@jimviau327 Or maybe it is typically just not as you presume. Maybe the corrections are for the ease of the reader, and so all. Your "appear" should be: appears.
I hope you get a Noble Prize for this MOST IMPORTANT research. BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO! It's hard to convince college educated that this makes sense. Their just like those who ignored the farmers observations(facts). That's a denial of observation based on credentials.
@Blue Skies You clearly are unhappy about something about him, I just did like to know what. Its funny how you can wonder what the hell was I thinking when reading old comments.
These ideas tie in with the thoughts of Freeman Dyson. He noted that 96% of carbon released into the atmosphere comes from natural sources and 4% comes from human activity. He realised that management of vegetation and oceans was far more important than worrying about carbon released from industrial processes. Pollution and environmental destruction were far more important since they drive the destruction of forests, the erosion of topsoil and the release of the resulting organic material back into the atmosphere. Clearly promoting the sequestration of carbon by a living eco-system of grassland, topsoil and the animals living on it have far greater potential to capture carbon from the atmosphere than any man made process.
+wjestick The 96% is in balance. Add 4% per year that is not balanced by nature and your numbers go through the roof. What is and extra 4% times 100 years, as we are also destroying the CO2 absorbing rain forest.
Untrue. Even the IPCC document section 7.3 acknowledges that most human produced C02 is sequestered by natural processes so there is no 4% times anything. The point is a relatively small change in natural uptake of carbon can absorb everything man puts out. The goal should be better land management, not economic strangulation. Savory's work is not the whole answer, but it is a big step in the right direction.
wjestick - Disagree and Agree. Regardless, trying to nitpick on who’s more correct, political biases, liberal, conservative, free market policy, regulation, blah blah blah.... In the end, I believe we can all agree that there are 3 basic principles that should be worked on in a multi-faceted manner and this would be a common denominator for all countries. Energy policy, Food policy, and Education Policy. Energy Policy - the economics are clear: it’s time to shift from a carbon economy to an electric economy. This would promote innovation, more localized power sourcing, and create more jobs! Food Policy - Big Agro’s gotta go! You are correct...it’s destroying our planet and ourselves. Holistic land management to maximize carbon capture with grasslands, arrest and reverse desertification, improve soil water capture. In the USA, especially, the food supply needs to be cleaned up drastically!!! All show, no go is how you’d describe typical American Produce and Meats. Educational Policy - a country rises or falls through it’s youth. Here in the USA: (Palm to face!!!). It’s embarrassing to see that any 5th/6th grader from a poor Eastern European country has more knowledge than most high school kids here!!! Civics, Logic, philosophy, languages, basic math fundamentals, critical thinking. All these subject were taught to American Youth in the 50s and 60s. These classes are still taught abroad in different countries’ school systems. I had a lot of catching up to do when I left to work overseas. Education policy needs to be revamped.
@@ramblinero9 I am not convinced that electricity produced by current means is sustainable. In fact, in the majority of cases, electricity production still causes the creation of more co2. New advances in Nuclear energy production make it a much safer process, especially using small, localised plants. The risk of catastrophic failure gas been greatly reduced & the problem of producing huge amounts of nuclear waste has also been vastly reduced. According to what I understand, spent rods are now safe enough to be removed from the plant in someone's pocket. The rods are far better rendered safe than in the past. I am not a scientist to be able to explain how but, by the same token, there have been many claims made that solar & wind powered power generation cannot adequately service modern needs so, must be used in conjunction with other means of power generation. We have a 3.5kva solar system on our roof so I do believe in the benefits of solar energy but, it does not work at night & I am not aware of an economical battery storage system being commercially available yet. Please enlighten me if you know of one.
I have always thought that permaculture, food forests, tree planting, water harvesting is the only way to solve our desertification issues in the desert areas. The problem with that is the cost is huge. By holistic management, we can restore grasslands, control climate change and keep our people fed. It seems to be a much quicker and cheaper solution for areas at most risk of desertification. Permaculture of course has its place, but this is a game changer.
What an incredible contribution Alan Savory has made for mankind. Amazing how he found such a simple solution to our greatest problem of desertification and uniting local farmers and herdsmen working together. That's the true meaning of the Swahili word 'Harambe'.
More like herds in the millions! It would sometimes take days for covered wagons to get by these herds as they were simply endless. It always astounds me to think we could kill off all those millions of animals and not even use all the meat, let alone all the other parts that provide various products we can use. How shameful that destruction was. I was so happy to see the bison in Yellowstone, descendants of the original couple of dozen bison there somehow hidden during the massacres. Most of the bison we have now are descended from these originals and maybe a few others that survived. There are a few herds reintroduced in other places on the plains grazing rather successfully and undoubtedly bringing back the grasslands as they munch, fertilize, and spread seeds in new places increasing plant diversity.
College rodent....before we had huge herds of cattle...there wete huge herds of bison in the central us. Further north...huge herds of caribou and reindeer provide the harvesting , fertility spreading and biological organisms that improve the soils in the grassland areas. Browsing animals prevent trees from taking over grasslands.
Thanks for not giving up, as observations, historic details, wit, practise and so many other unspoken detail now part of this solution. The world is proud of your practical low cost work result, well thought of practical protocols contributing to human happiness and sustainability.Congratulate yourself, Jody and team at large, magnificus.
I watched this on my Smart TV, and I kind of felt we were messing around with things that we could not know what we were doing. Like God or mother nature allowed for the real health of this globe. And we mess with so much, thinking it is over grassed. You name it, we have to get real.
This man should be lauriate for Nobel peace price. He just explained how human civilization has caused desertification in the past 10000 years in areas, which once were the most most fertile in the earth.
To all the vegans and vegetarians who care about animals : This is actualy increasing the amount of animals, and giving them better life conditions, and also increases the crop yield from agriculture, meaning, that it's not all about eating meat from those animals, but also, about creating crops, that allow us to NOT eat those animals. Frankly this is much better thank keeping cows in the buildings 24/7, and feeding them from pipes. So if you are a person that cares about animal life, you should not only support it, you should join it, you should buy your own cows/sheeps etc. and go to a desertified region, and simply help the project, just, in your case, you won't kill the cows for meat, you will breed them to increase the herd size. In fact increasing the sizes of herds of those animals without killing any of them - will be helpfull because it will increase the number of lands that can be used for agriculture! So VEGANS I SAY! HELP THIS PROJECT TO MAKE LIFE OF ANIMALS GREAT AGAIN! I am not vegan, myself, but I think that the less herds will be used for meat, the faster we can stop the desertification of the lands, and the more land we can use for feeding EVERYONE and all the animals we need too. So it's going to be very profitable for EVERYONE!
Fuck the vegans. When the resource is there it would be a shame for it to go to waist. Edit: PS. vegan/vegiterians can eat whatever the hell they like as long as they want. Just don't push your lifestyle on me l.
Allan could have also circled major cities (LA) with their own form "desertification" ...through concrete, plant, and landscape change. "Flow through the soil."
Well this makes sense, if you don't have the water in the ground, then it must be in the air. That's why we're getting such bad storms. Heavy wet air, causes heavy rain, Cyclones, tornadoes and heavy snowfalls or none at all. And there's probably quite a bit locked in the ocean's waters, because the cycle is breaking down.
Guess I have to read the book. How do you add a huge number( 2500 animals) to a barre landscape and have them survive. Must be inputs from off site for 2 years or more.
Mr. Savory is correct in his assertion that properly managing animal grazing can help to stop the process of desertification, but only when applied along with properly done permaculture planting techniques, including some of the methods he completely dismisses in most of his speeches. Using permaculture growing methods along with proper animal management eventually leads to a self sustaining environmental change, using animal management alone has been shown over the years to only slow the process of desertification.
Any proof of what you are saying? unless there is, it sounds like magical thinking to me. You forget that what he says is based on an ecological equilibrium which evolved over MILLIONS of years, which makes total sense. I am tired of humans being so anthropo-centric that they believe that only human intervention can do the trick. We've been around not very long and this ecology is way older than us. So while permaculture may improve vegetation density (fine, no big deal), to claim that the natural method (copying nature) "only slows down desertification", is an exemple of magical thinking and human arrogance. Please either show evidence or stop saying that. Have a nice day.
"We can no longer abandon the cities. You are the greatest people in danger....don't worry about the poverty stricken people in the rural areas, they still know how to grow food. Worry about the cities, the suffering and chaos will be mind boggling if the city people don't realize this is a city problem not a rural problem because you control the politics, you control the money, you control the universities, you control the education. The rural people don't. You control your own fate." -- Allan S. The question is will the city people listen and understand that desertification is real and the problem can be solved by methods that increase more livestock on the land to preserve it rather than spare the land from grazing. Thanks Alan.
It seems like it would be important to fence off clumps of land to allow new trees to grow until they are big enough not to be nibbled away. This is a problem in places like New Zealand or Scotland where reforestation is being worked on by some. Longer term, mass grazing could lead to similar tree-less landscapes as the existing trees die. Maybe this holistic approach takes trees and other flora into account, I hope so.
Where do we find more information about Alan's methods, please? I am aware of Permaculture & have used it in the past when we had 5 acres of land but, our current, domestic block is not well suited to growing vegetables.
This one I do not believe. Taking animals else where, so out of the local system(as food in cities), will eventually deplete that local system. The Indians were few and living in the same system as the bisons.
Blame the dustbowl on first...John Deere, who invented the plow that made it so easy to break sod. Then, along came "The Green Revolution" where oil based fertilizers were used for plant nutrion, and pesticides for insect control. Other chemicals for weed and disease control. The slogan was " Better Living Through Chemistry." Government started controlling crop prices and volumes. Things really went downhill when farmers had to " get big or get out."
He has constituents in the Savory Institute who he trusts to do his bidding while he spreads the good word. I am sure if you contacted the Institute you would be lead in the same direction as if you contacted him directly
SELECTIVE versus NON-SELECTIVE grazing. • There is confusion between SEVERE grazing and OVERgrazing. Overgrazing is related to the time a plant is allowed to recover after severe grazing. Continuous SELECTIVE overgrazing at low animal impact is the problem with conventional management that has to be addressed. • There is absolutely no doubt about the fact that non-selective grazing results in a lower level of nutrition and poorer body condition. There is also no doubt about the fact that improved grass utilisation occurs (higher stocking rate) and that plant species composition changes in favour of more productive (higher stocking rate) and more nutritious plants (alleviates poor condition). • Most protagonists of intensive grazing advocate “grazing the top third of plants” to allow animals an improved nutrient intake. What is the chance of my cattle only eating the top 1/3 of ALL grass species and leaving 2/3s behind?..ZERO Notice that even under UHDG they leave most of the very unpalatable Palens grass and graze the rest of the species almost 💯 pct... There is no way that grazing the top third of all plants in a diverse community of plants can be achieved, unless animals are trained or bred to do so. Any animal will graze selectively if given the choice. Therefore, instead of grazing the top third they will selectively graze a third of the material on offer - some individual plants will be grazed to a varying degree and some will be left ungrazed. The ultimate result is better body condition at the expense of stocking rate and species composition. • A far better option is to address body condition via genotype (high relative intake), rumen supplementation (minerals, protein, urea and probiotic), synchronising production with natural nutrition (calve, breed and wean during the period of best nutrition) and shorter grass recovery (higher nutrient concentration) at critical times. In regard to a shorter recovery period this applies more to low octane grazing. Deliberately shortening the recovery periods must be done with the provisos of grazing “non-selectively” and alternating these intensively grazed areas with long recovery in the long term. Non-selective “overgrazing” in combination with high animal impact and alternate longer recovery results in good species composition and maximum profit / unit of land. There is a serious disconnect in the Holistic Management group between cattle and grass. References: Johann Zietsman and Jaime Elizondo ua-cam.com/video/jeuRyDLnPsw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/HJinY9-FBic/v-deo.html profitableranching.com/Profitable_Ranching/THE_Book.html
Have you ever read holistic management literature?You seem to be criticizing it at face value based on some other literature.Check their website or listen to talks by Gabe brown, Joe salatin
Julia Mary Marple usually by rolling out hay. The key is to get the animals to impact the land then move them off for a while. Greg Judy talks about this in much shorter videos.
Everybody goes back to the drawing board, the family unit, the schools outdated specially in history, the government, the social media should rethink what they are doing now. And fix all the problem here at home ,Earth before going outside space. Pollutions,global warming, deforestations, social and moral problem, drugs addiction , crimes. We have the means the technology to do it.
Are the desert areas of Asia and North Africa listening yet? I remember how total grazing was reduced by more than half by overgrazing when I was in Morocco 20 years ago. The land was covered with thistles and grass was nonexistent. An interesting example of "mob grazing" was the the Passenger Pigeon. They would settle on an area so heavily branches would break. The following year the trees would explode in growth from all the droppings left. The degradation in the Middle East can be traced in the Bible. When the Israelites arrived in Palestine, they were primarily herdsman. From the armies raised, it can be seen that the population peaked about the time of King David. 300 years later, only a fraction of the population could be still sustained.
Removed the Apex predator, humans. The humans on the land concentrated the herds and insured that the herds would keep moving. Same thing happened in Yellowstone with the wolfs. Of course humans with modern rifles would not be a good idea but the presents of primitive humans is what made it work.
What I am not understanding is if the land is bare and you put a whole bunch of livestock on the land, what are they grazing on? Are you shipping in a whole bunch of food for them? That’s the only thing I don’t understand about this system
eck this short film "What I ate in 38 years" by Yuri A / R. Mond , he is Swiss and now follows a carnivore diet, a diet low in animal products made him ill @
This is the outcome of the dishonest "scientific thinking" that goes on in our current society. Let that sink in... they slaughtered FORTY THOUSAND elephants to "save the environment"! The outcome: they made the problem worse! Criminal!
@@agentmacguyver2974 Yes, sad I know, but it has helped to come to the realisation that it was wrong, and hence, find the correct path. Now that it has be found we can now work on this towards a healthier ecosystem and the whole life across the world not only for humans, but other animals including elephants of today and their future. Therefore, one could understand it as their sacrifice to help the planet and the future of their own spices, and so their deaths were not in vain.
I have asked this question of the Savory Institute before. Could native herbivores take the place of domesticated animals? It is the act of mimicking natural grazing patterns that need to take place, so why not return native herbivors to the landscape?
An excellent book I highly recommend is "Defending Beef". Don't remember the author, but she's an environmental lawyer and vegetarian who's married to a cattle rancher.
You ought to check out the China red sand that they used to plant trees in the desert it's pretty amazing they're saving their desert thousands of Acres every year thousands
plant shrubs!!! tree's and grass alone won't bring enough structure to soil to lift it's water carrying capacity, the previous ecosystem in its entirety needs to be recreated for successful reconstitution of desert. look to how Costa Rica expands biological reserves in the wake of cattle farming ; they have an answer to land degradation there.
I heared an Arabian farmer say to me that in there is a famous belief in their ancient culture that putting animals on the farm land blesses that land & must eventually raise its value & price. When I asked him, is it their fertilizing effect, he said no! & continued, that though animal dung does fertilize, its not what I'm referring to with this. He said its a mysterious blessing especially noticeable when horses are on the premises, that doesn't occur w/other animals. Then he quotes a saying of their prophet, "There is a blessing/goodness/sustenance that hangs as a necklace from the necks of horses". Is it always the case with us, that we toil through long-winded scientific testing with no consideration of prophets who might be pointing us to shortcuts. A man tells us there is a gold mine here, we go & look, though we know he's not a miner. Yet we won't give God a chance, because of the decency he demands.
+Fred Kirsch we all need both, but not all eat the wild life. l do not want to eat a lion, but there are some who do. but all need to be controlled hunting.
+Fred Kirsch We (humans) ought to Go VEGAN, and eat mostly/entirely a plant-based diet, while encouraging MAXIMUM Biological diversity of our Locally Native Wildlife species, by Encouraging, and Increasing the numbers of Grazers/browsers, and Large Predators which would encourage those herbivores to keep moving around upon the landscape!
+Fred Kirsch for example - cow "replaces" bison. In order to have proper wild animal herd behavior, predators would be needed. But people generally don't like to live near predators :) Also, humans like to create fences etc...
@@guloguloguy You still need massive amounts of land and water to grow all that plant-based diet though, which would disrupt the movement of any herd and deplete the soil
Yes but that was when they thought it was animals that created soil degradation and there was an abundance of elephants at the time. Alan has never forgiven himself for instigating the slaughter of these amazing animals and because of that he has dedicated the rest of his life to researching climate change and his consensus of how animal stock is required in keeping our lands sustained.
40,000 elephants slaughtered ( or ‘culled’ as some would prefer to call it ) , for no good reason... just as they did with the plains buffalo in North America
Yes, it’s true. Mr Allon Savory not only talks about Sheep’s and Goats, but all other animals, like Cows, Buffalos and wild animals. If you don’t maintain Eco-balance of the nature, human beings cannot survive. They should keep in their mind that they not only live on this earth, but other species, too. Therefore, they should mend their ways and style of living so as enable the nature to keep them alive, otherwise not. Rest in their hands, what to do and what not! Bye.
It is true the cities and rural areas are like two different worlds, when we the farmers first entered Hong Kong the big city, we felt so frustrated and very insecure, and the smell of gasoline made me vomit so much, that is how bad the air quality is, the industry draw people's attention to make big fortunes, and neglect the importance of the food producing land, overall when we look at the past and present, moneyBob really dominates our societies, Satan the beast gave him so much power, human beings started the world with disobedience and lies, one mistake leads the other, generation after generation the mistakes swirling up like a giantic tornado covered the sun, I hope to learn more about the holistic management, I guess if we don't participate, there will be no reconciliation at the end with the lord of heaven
Did Savory mention that the brown grasses that are not eaten or trampled to the ground where (in living soil) the soil live can recycle them - OXIDIZE and release CARBON into the atmosphere? This happens in humid regions with more even rainfall also, if not as much.
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He owns his blunder. Doesn't give up. Dedicates his life to solving this problem. This man has integrity.
@cmiller8492 with age comes wisdom.
@@josephvincze1077 i wish that was true for everyone. my father is the most arrogant and egotistical person ive ever met. he will defend something that he fully knows is wrong just because of his ego.
He has no qualification. He is hired by the meat and food industry. Get rid of all the evil horned ruminants. Replant all the trees.
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I am almost 74 years old. When I was in my early 20s "1971" I studied under Alan Chadwick, the English actor who brought French Intensive, Biodynamic gardening ideas to America. It sounds confusing, but to get to basic...don't feed the plant, feed the soil. There is a lot more to it than that, but no time to get into it now. With that knowledge I have shown many students how to grow more food than they know what to do with in a very small area. I really enjoyed starting community gardens. I also was aware of what happened shortly before I was born in the midwest. In just a few decades the Great Plains, a vast area of prolific grasslands, with herds of Bison by the millions, was turned into a dust bowl by farming. I accidentaly found Allen Savory today searching the web. I've spent my life improving soil from the knowledge I got from Allen
"Because we scientists are human. We interpret data to fit our beliefs. We don't fit our beliefs to the data and realize the data is telling us that our belief is wrong."
Wow. What honesty and humility.
From someone who is not actually a scientist? OK...
So simple, its genius, give this man a noble prize!
The Nobel Prize lost its nobility when they gave it to people who had done nothing to deserve it and everything to disqualify themselves from it.
The fact that Allan receives huge resistance from the cattle industry (which is mainly composed of feed lots and the feed producers) suggests to me that this technique works. Plus, people fail to remember that historically areas the 2/3 of the US and other areas were covered with tens of millions of animals such as the buffalo that would be described as black seas of flesh going on for miles. The key is to graze the animals in small areas to let them eat and do their thing, then move them off to fresh land. The previously eaten land is then protected for 3 to 4 months to allow it to uptake the nutrients and regrow. Essentially using the animals as lawn mowers and fertilizers. People that gripe about this process keep thinking of the standard practices of just throwing animals out in huge areas of land and letting them go whereas this method you create paddocks to keep the animals together like a herd so they concentrate their efforts.
Managed Intensive Grazing is what you just described.
It's not just about eating more meat. It's about eating more beef, poultry, and pork from farmers who practice rotational grazing and other forms of biological mimicking.
If you go to the store and buy a pound of grain fed, CAFO, feedlot raised beef instead of a normal pound grass-fed meat you are actually putting money in the pockets of people who do not care about managing the land and only care about putting money in their pockets. This shopping behavior is the biggest killer of the american grassland.
Buy grass-fed meat and pastured pork and chicken and wild game meat and address climate change, animal mistreatment, small business, and most importantly your own health.
Mario, you are right. Cheep beef costs far more than the sticker price.
If every Coustmer was like you this world would be a very healthy place
Chicken? Sheep and goats would be better.
Much of the land in the US can support cattle, with out using his method. But we also don't have food shortages. Certainly the desert areas where people cannot feed themselves, need to be employing his methods.
Biological mimicking? Where do you find in our nature that hosts thousands of cows in a small region? Trees dominates grass naturally. The only reason why we have grassland is because of human deforestation and intensive farming resulting in land degradation and hence grassland.
More People lived on the land and farmed the land in the 40's. In the 50's it really changed. There is so much to do on our planet to keep it alive, no one need to be out of work. I love this Guy! He has done much to help the entire world.
Wow what an amazing data. Makes sense! Thank you so much for organizing such an event with Alan Savory.
Allan Savory and the Savory Institute's work is vital, not only to the wool industry, but to the farming industry and the whole world. Imagine if the whole world could practice this level of sustainable farming while improving the environment and reducing the impact of global warming. For wool this is another huge plus, we have a natural, sustainable and biodegradable product and the production of this product can benefit the environment in a significant way. Lets see the end of synthetics and a return to natural materials and natural practices.
YES! The importance of food produced locally in an ecologically sustainable manner has recieved a lot of attention - but I have never seen anyone else but myself talk about the hugely damaging impact of synthetic, man-made fibers - known in the textile world as 'chemical fibers'. Thank you for bringing this up!
Remarkably enlightened chap
It gives me faith in humanity when I see people like Alan savory admit that he’s been wrong for so many years and decades. Unfortunately he had to make gigantic mistakes in order to see the truth. Better late than never? Or is it too late?
I don't think so. Between this kind of thinking and regenerative farming that can include livestock or not, we have a good chance at solving the global warming crisis. As as been pointed out many times, we can stop putting more CO2 into the atmosphere (this is important, I have electric cars myself), but it won't stop global warming unless we take the excess CO2 we've been responsible for out of the atmosphere, and the best way to do that is through regenerative farming with cover crops and restoring grasslands, both of which suck more CO2 out of the air than rainforests or forests, believe it or not. And reclaiming the deserts in the world would be an enormous help. It looks like this would be an excellent way to do it.
BTW, the best way to slow population growth is to educate girls. Educated girls just tend to have fewer children-and better lives, for that matter.
There's no man made climate change, we change the ground levels, sure but the sun is gonna cycle and so will 'climate' however that's defined
It's too late.....the people are addicted to the Westernization and Greed has instilled in their hearts. No pointing fingers but I believe this is cause by you know whom......the develop nations that "ignored" the principals of the Tribal Nation....before they (European, Develop Nations) tried to "reinvent the wheel and thought they are better than God...….The driving force of western countries and Globalist Nations will not listen to this "concept" people are too addicted to the "Paper Chasing" culture and Greed. Money and Greed is what will destroy "human kind" if not now....it will be later.
Its never to late, he said within one year it was 50% better, thats more than a miracle, its Gods grace that we understood something, the best thing is no technology, that tells me that we think to complex. We fly to the moon and dont understand farming on the planet earth. Gods still laughing at us, seek and you shall find.
@@SuperBenette I agree with you with "fixing" what we have here on earth instead of flying to the moon to do what.....migrate the issues and duplicate what we did or doing here on earth..... Human's and humanity must not waste another "atom" of energy to do scientific research outside our existing livable planet. What truly needs to happen is to "take the resources that we have available now" to do more studies on the issues that is affecting earth today and to further explore and know more about what is under the sea floor. We need to also "radically" change the way we have been acting and thinking because the "Modern, system is obviously flawed" Modernization has completely removed us from "balance of nature" and made today's society out of touch from "reality" Our activities as people and this "NEW WAVE OF CULTURE/thinking" marketed and heavily pursued European Race to bring about division amongst people has cause a "pacific rim of fire" between the Tribal way of life and the "New Way Of Life" Uprooted and forced upon the "Tribal people of the world/ Ancient Nations" to adapt a new way of life..... a culture's only aim is to "control society and control the resources of the world" and so that the European Nations/ White Race can benefit from it all......that is the issue today....the GREED and the ambition of "White Countries and people" to rule over the "Known Tribal People" thus much of what you see today is in "ruins"......depleted and division..... Because, the "White Culture"...….New Culture....which does not respect God or the Ancient Tribal way of life as being "primitive" due to the "White ignorance and arrogance" in which they have brought with them and continue to market throughout the world......This new system is unlike the ancient teachings.....this new system brought by the "Neo Race" is all about "self satisfaction" self fulfillment and selfishness to the core..... it is years and years and years and years and years of "exploiting people and exploiting resources" and not "fearing GOD" This "White Race" new way of life and new culture does not "respect" the basic fundamental "way of life" and other's thus earth today "suffers" and showing signs of degradation and stress in all signs...….if we continue on this "path of greed and self serving" way of life......we as human's will perish and we are on the path of "self destruction" we must "reverse the process" and we must "go back" to the "Tribalism" way of life.....the respect for nature and the "balance of all humanity" not just "The White Race" but it is for all......Tribalism way of life....is not "dead" it is under "hibernation" waiting for the "White Rule and Greed" to collapse within itself and eventually.....Tribalism way of life will then again emerge from the "ruins" of the "New White World/Develop Nations" ……..I am not surprise to see bickering amongst the democrats and the republican's is only the beginning but it is the "start of human destruction" and which will push us to human extinction if we stay on this path. Both democrat and republican system "play's off" the same "path" both do not have the interest of "Nature and Balance" your either on the far right or your in the far left......only small percent in the middle.....this is the "pacific rim of fire" bickering about "Self fulfillment" and forgetting about the whole world.....a world of "bubble" self fulfilling arrogant breed of people blinded by their own "social status" and forgetting who is truly "in charge" of our life...…...This kind of "new Culture" is trying to "REINVENT THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE" and forgetting that "Ancient People" has already "figured that all out" thus the ancient's allow the "new to take place" because the "Higher Ancient learning and People" already know the outcome and the result of this "Demonic New World" that we live in "today"...……. The day of reckoning is near and it will strike those "Abaddon Race" with ferocity......for their disobedience to God's Commandments...….mark my word....no "human" is greater than GOD. No self proclaim king is greater than the "King" of all King's. Nobody is greater than GOD Himself......for his "kingdom" will have no end...….Change your ways.....White Neo Culture" adapt your ways to the old Tribal Ancient ways......and you will save this planet and save yourself......Because on judgment day....I will come to judge the living and the dead spirit's and those who care not to listen.....I will put and bring them to the Abyss...…..when judgement day comes.
Thank you Allan, for sharing your wisdom with us.
Thank you Allan I hope your system and insight will expand across the world.
It's so great to find out that, from time to time, there a scientist out there who understand something.
It broke my hard for you and the elephants both when you said how many were killed. I truly feel for u and know this must have been or is a horrible night mare u have had to relieve over and over throughout ur life. Thank u so much for making this wrong rite the only way u can, Not many people would stepup to the plate and do what u have done. Ur wisdom is a blessing to us all
God bless 🙏🙏😇 man
if i may add to the story: the water vapourises from the soil, starting to turn into the vapor a meter beneath the surface. In normal green conditions, the water rises to the surface in its liquid form through micro capilary channels. Now the plants use these channels to push their roots through and meet their water supply. However, if the water vapourises and escapes so quickly from the soil, every seed that starts to germinate just dies. The soil which is covered retards the motion of vapour, but in addition to this, it is a good idea to have the soil in a shade. For that, good trees are inevitable in order to shade the soil and thus lower its temperature during the midday as well as to prevent cooler climates at the dawn. I am a traveller and as a traveller i sleep a lot outside in the wilderness. It became a rule for me to prefer to sleep under the trees, because it just feels warmer during the night, especially at the dawn. The trees act as a heat shield as well as wind break. During the midday, it is far more comfortable to spend time under a tree and that soil underneath feels it too. What I notticed once crossing mountains in Antiatlas of Morocco, I was passing through an oasis. There was a well under construction. This well was about 10 meters deep but down to about 4 meters the walls of that pit were densely full with roots of the trees. I have never seen such a thick set of roots. And guess what trees it were? Off course the date palms! My favourite fruit btw. These trees push so many roots, so deep in their search for water and they hold that soil so strong that there is no erosion possible if these trees are there. Right next week I went camping with other guys near Mhamid oasis, near Algerian border. There i observed desert acacia trees. Butiful nice conifers, that survived scattered around the desert. I notticed these trees were also on the tops of the highest dunes. That means these trees must have been there before the dunes rose higher and kept on growing as they were becoming buried under the sand. What was funny, even during the midday, when i dug into the dune, about 20cm underneath there was a bit of moisture, so I guess at the bottom of a sand dune there must have been a reasonable watertable and these acacias are using it and keep growing green, providing camels regular green food. I have seen, however, the nomads chasing the camels away from those trees, not to eat them too quickly.
Your English has mistakes, here is the correct English: If I may add to the story: The water evaporates from the top meter of the soil. In healthy well vegetated conditions, the water rises to the surface through capillary channels. Through those channels the plant roots grow. But when that water evaporates too quickly from the soil, germinating seeds die. ...
@@rolfpoelman3486 : Thanks Rolf. May I also attempt to perhaps bring my own view of the situation: This is a video for people who are interested in agro-saving-the-planet. Although, perfecting a language structure is a very admirable endeavor, it is probably the least of readers concern how Stanislav Kocur expressed himself, as long as the message went through. Besides, Stanislav (who is probably not a native English speaking person, based on his name) appear to practice relatively pretty good English, taking into account his possible origins. We probably cannot say the same for most English speaking individuals who do not give a damn about perfecting a second language. Perhaps, Rolf, you should attempt to rewrite your comment in Polish or Russian, just to see how you do, and then we can ask Stan to “correct your mistakes”
@@jimviau327 Or maybe it is typically just not as you presume. Maybe the corrections are for the ease of the reader, and so all. Your "appear" should be: appears.
Amazing! So encouraging!
I hope you get a Noble Prize for this MOST IMPORTANT research. BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO! It's hard to convince college educated that this makes sense. Their just like those who ignored the farmers observations(facts). That's a denial of observation based on credentials.
@Blue Skies What is it that you dont like about Savory?
@Blue Skies You clearly are unhappy about something about him, I just did like to know what.
Its funny how you can wonder what the hell was I thinking when reading old comments.
These ideas tie in with the thoughts of Freeman Dyson. He noted that 96% of carbon released into the atmosphere comes from natural sources and 4% comes from human activity.
He realised that management of vegetation and oceans was far more important than worrying about carbon released from industrial processes. Pollution and environmental destruction were far more important since they drive the destruction of forests, the erosion of topsoil and the release of the resulting organic material back into the atmosphere.
Clearly promoting the sequestration of carbon by a living eco-system of grassland, topsoil and the animals living on it have far greater potential to capture carbon from the atmosphere than any man made process.
+wjestick The 96% is in balance. Add 4% per year that is not balanced by nature and your numbers go through the roof. What is and extra 4% times 100 years, as we are also destroying the CO2 absorbing rain forest.
Untrue. Even the IPCC document section 7.3 acknowledges that most human produced C02 is sequestered by natural processes so there is no 4% times anything.
The point is a relatively small change in natural uptake of carbon can absorb everything man puts out. The goal should be better land management, not economic strangulation.
Savory's work is not the whole answer, but it is a big step in the right direction.
wjestick - Disagree and Agree.
Regardless, trying to nitpick on who’s more correct, political biases, liberal, conservative, free market policy, regulation, blah blah blah....
In the end, I believe we can all agree that there are 3 basic principles that should be worked on in a multi-faceted manner and this would be a common denominator for all countries.
Energy policy, Food policy, and Education Policy.
Energy Policy - the economics are clear: it’s time to shift from a carbon economy to an electric economy. This would promote innovation, more localized power sourcing, and create more jobs!
Food Policy - Big Agro’s gotta go! You are correct...it’s destroying our planet and ourselves. Holistic land management to maximize carbon capture with grasslands, arrest and reverse desertification, improve soil water capture. In the USA, especially, the food supply needs to be cleaned up drastically!!! All show, no go is how you’d describe typical American Produce and Meats.
Educational Policy - a country rises or falls through it’s youth. Here in the USA: (Palm to face!!!). It’s embarrassing to see that any 5th/6th grader from a poor Eastern European country has more knowledge than most high school kids here!!! Civics, Logic, philosophy, languages, basic math fundamentals, critical thinking. All these subject were taught to American Youth in the 50s and 60s. These classes are still taught abroad in different countries’ school systems. I had a lot of catching up to do when I left to work overseas. Education policy needs to be revamped.
@@ramblinero9 I am not convinced that electricity produced by current means is sustainable. In fact, in the majority of cases, electricity production still causes the creation of more co2. New advances in Nuclear energy production make it a much safer process, especially using small, localised plants.
The risk of catastrophic failure gas been greatly reduced & the problem of producing huge amounts of nuclear waste has also been vastly reduced. According to what I understand, spent rods are now safe enough to be removed from the plant in someone's pocket. The rods are far better rendered safe than in the past.
I am not a scientist to be able to explain how but, by the same token, there have been many claims made that solar & wind powered power generation cannot adequately service modern needs so, must be used in conjunction with other means of power generation.
We have a 3.5kva solar system on our roof so I do believe in the benefits of solar energy but, it does not work at night & I am not aware of an economical battery storage system being commercially available yet. Please enlighten me if you know of one.
Pupulation has been falling for decades now. But regenerating land is a noble cause.
I have always thought that permaculture, food forests, tree planting, water harvesting is the only way to solve our desertification issues in the desert areas. The problem with that is the cost is huge. By holistic management, we can restore grasslands, control climate change and keep our people fed. It seems to be a much quicker and cheaper solution for areas at most risk of desertification. Permaculture of course has its place, but this is a game changer.
What an incredibly hopeful message
What an incredible contribution Alan Savory has made for mankind. Amazing how he found such a simple solution to our greatest problem of desertification and uniting local farmers and herdsmen working together. That's the true meaning of the Swahili word 'Harambe'.
"NATURE ALWAYS WINS!"
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➕ THANK GOD! ➕
Thankyou so much for this. Fantastic sense! - Kalahari Region, South Africa.18-Jan-2016
The American bison ran in herds of thousands, when the grasslands were lush.
More like herds in the millions! It would sometimes take days for covered wagons to get by these herds as they were simply endless. It always astounds me to think we could kill off all those millions of animals and not even use all the meat, let alone all the other parts that provide various products we can use. How shameful that destruction was. I was so happy to see the bison in Yellowstone, descendants of the original couple of dozen bison there somehow hidden during the massacres. Most of the bison we have now are descended from these originals and maybe a few others that survived. There are a few herds reintroduced in other places on the plains grazing rather successfully and undoubtedly bringing back the grasslands as they munch, fertilize, and spread seeds in new places increasing plant diversity.
Wendy Scott yes, but unfortunately those lands that the government controls management of for the bison are not using holistic management practices.
@@christophergruenwald5054 I haven't heard one way or the other. Hopefully, they'll be okay however they're being managed.
@C C Well, a lot of us are, but then there are some of us who want to be in sync with nature and not destroy our only planet.
College rodent....before we had huge herds of cattle...there wete huge herds of bison in the central us. Further north...huge herds of caribou and reindeer provide the harvesting , fertility spreading and biological organisms that improve the soils in the grassland areas. Browsing animals prevent trees from taking over grasslands.
Thanks for not giving up, as observations, historic details, wit, practise and so many other unspoken detail now part of this solution. The world is proud of your practical low cost work result, well thought of practical protocols contributing to human happiness and sustainability.Congratulate yourself, Jody and team at large, magnificus.
Wow! This has put me in the mood for lamb chops.
Wow, I can only hope all the other scientists come to their senses such as this guy did!
I watched this on my Smart TV, and I kind of felt we were messing around with things that we could not know what we were doing. Like God or mother nature allowed for the real health of this globe. And we mess with so much, thinking it is over grassed. You name it, we have to get real.
Allan is God sent!!! Simply amazing man cares about humanity like no one ever could!!
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Well done to the sheep!
This man should be lauriate for Nobel peace price.
He just explained how human civilization has caused desertification in the past 10000 years in areas, which once were the most most fertile in the earth.
very inspiring
To all the vegans and vegetarians who care about animals : This is actualy increasing the amount of animals, and giving them better life conditions, and also increases the crop yield from agriculture, meaning, that it's not all about eating meat from those animals, but also, about creating crops, that allow us to NOT eat those animals.
Frankly this is much better thank keeping cows in the buildings 24/7, and feeding them from pipes. So if you are a person that cares about animal life, you should not only support it, you should join it, you should buy your own cows/sheeps etc. and go to a desertified region, and simply help the project, just, in your case, you won't kill the cows for meat, you will breed them to increase the herd size. In fact increasing the sizes of herds of those animals without killing any of them - will be helpfull because it will increase the number of lands that can be used for agriculture!
So VEGANS I SAY! HELP THIS PROJECT TO MAKE LIFE OF ANIMALS GREAT AGAIN!
I am not vegan, myself, but I think that the less herds will be used for meat, the faster we can stop the desertification of the lands, and the more land we can use for feeding EVERYONE and all the animals we need too.
So it's going to be very profitable for EVERYONE!
Fuck the vegans. When the resource is there it would be a shame for it to go to waist.
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PS. vegan/vegiterians can eat whatever the hell they like as long as they want. Just don't push your lifestyle on me l.
Save our grasslands.
Woolroom..agreed this wad an excellent presentation with tangible evidence.lets go people..new knowledge for a planet in need.
G frederick...he talks about the overgrazing...listen.the new holistic plan is to restructure land and herd management.
Allan could have also circled major cities (LA) with their own form "desertification" ...through concrete, plant, and landscape change. "Flow through the soil."
A revolution via food is real. Get growing.
Well this makes sense, if you don't have the water in the ground, then it must be in the air. That's why we're getting such bad storms. Heavy wet air, causes heavy rain, Cyclones, tornadoes and heavy snowfalls or none at all. And there's probably quite a bit locked in the ocean's waters, because the cycle is breaking down.
Right, keep the animals moving.
Guess I have to read the book. How do you add a huge number( 2500 animals) to a barre landscape and have them survive. Must be inputs from off site for 2 years or more.
Surely inputs to prime the system
Mr. Savory is correct in his assertion that properly managing animal grazing can help to stop the process of desertification, but only when applied along with properly done permaculture planting techniques, including some of the methods he completely dismisses in most of his speeches. Using permaculture growing methods along with proper animal management eventually leads to a self sustaining environmental change, using animal management alone has been shown over the years to only slow the process of desertification.
Any proof of what you are saying? unless there is, it sounds like magical thinking to me. You forget that what he says is based on an ecological equilibrium which evolved over MILLIONS of years, which makes total sense. I am tired of humans being so anthropo-centric that they believe that only human intervention can do the trick. We've been around not very long and this ecology is way older than us. So while permaculture may improve vegetation density (fine, no big deal), to claim that the natural method (copying nature) "only slows down desertification", is an exemple of magical thinking and human arrogance. Please either show evidence or stop saying that. Have a nice day.
Plants will grow on their own given the opportunity.
"We can no longer abandon the cities. You are the greatest people in danger....don't worry about the poverty stricken people in the rural areas, they still know how to grow food. Worry about the cities, the suffering and chaos will be mind boggling if the city people don't realize this is a city problem not a rural problem because you control the politics, you control the money, you control the universities, you control the education. The rural people don't. You control your own fate." -- Allan S. The question is will the city people listen and understand that desertification is real and the problem can be solved by methods that increase more livestock on the land to preserve it rather than spare the land from grazing. Thanks Alan.
It seems like it would be important to fence off clumps of land to allow new trees to grow until they are big enough not to be nibbled away. This is a problem in places like New Zealand or Scotland where reforestation is being worked on by some. Longer term, mass grazing could lead to similar tree-less landscapes as the existing trees die. Maybe this holistic approach takes trees and other flora into account, I hope so.
more sheep, less sheeple
Where do we find more information about Alan's methods, please? I am aware of Permaculture & have used it in the past when we had 5 acres of land but, our current, domestic block is not well suited to growing vegetables.
@Keith Haycraft www.savory.global/
This video is about this method in USA ua-cam.com/video/NFAejg1PP8U/v-deo.html
with all this man's effort..... some inhuman people just burns the amazon.
Allan Savory must be declared a HERO for his lifeworks
I must say magnificent
Okay, the picture from Mexico blew my mind
Been so doggone so doggone long. It's time to get a clue.
Very few graziers will do this in Australia they are to stuck in the old ways and addicted to government subsides.
Well I will just have to be 1 of the few then. screw the rest.
@@aussiefarmer8741 r u doing it?
And as read meat becomes cheaper, over fishing the oceans will stop - win win situation
This one I do not believe.
Taking animals else where, so out of the local system(as food in cities),
will eventually deplete that local system.
The Indians were few and living in the same system as the bisons.
So basicly we should never settle. We been designed as nomadic shepard's just like the bible suggests.
Imagine that.......................God was right again!
Where do we find out "How" to implement livestock to improve the soil? If anyone knows of any resources please comment.
Check out Greg Judy. He has info on implementing water and rotational grazing for $30 an acre.
I wonder if the dustbowl in the midwest was a result of the buffalo herds being depleted? Does that apply here?
No it was caused by new machinery and a over farming the ground
No. They dug up the native grasses that had very long roots and replaced it with short root vegetables.
Blame the dustbowl on first...John Deere, who invented the plow that made it so easy to break sod. Then, along came "The Green Revolution" where oil based fertilizers were used for plant nutrion, and pesticides for insect control. Other chemicals for weed and disease control. The slogan was " Better Living Through Chemistry." Government started controlling crop prices and volumes. Things really went downhill when farmers had to " get big or get out."
Tillage, tillage, tillage. You still see the same dust storms today where tillage is prevalent.
That and maybe invention of (barbed wire) fencing.
Thank You, professor for Yor wonderful lecture!
Kindly supply me a way I can contact Alan. W
He has constituents in the Savory Institute who he trusts to do his bidding while he spreads the good word. I am sure if you contacted the Institute you would be lead in the same direction as if you contacted him directly
At least they can shave the planet.
SELECTIVE versus NON-SELECTIVE grazing.
• There is confusion between SEVERE grazing and OVERgrazing.
Overgrazing is related to the time a plant is allowed to recover after severe grazing.
Continuous SELECTIVE overgrazing at low animal impact is the problem with conventional management that has to be addressed.
• There is absolutely no doubt about the fact that non-selective grazing results in a lower level of nutrition and poorer body condition.
There is also no doubt about the fact that improved grass utilisation occurs (higher stocking rate) and that plant species composition changes in favour of more productive (higher stocking rate) and more nutritious plants (alleviates poor condition).
• Most protagonists of intensive grazing advocate “grazing the top third of plants” to allow animals an improved nutrient intake.
What is the chance of my cattle only eating the top 1/3 of ALL grass species and leaving 2/3s behind?..ZERO
Notice that even under UHDG they leave most of the very unpalatable Palens grass and graze the rest of the species almost 💯 pct...
There is no way that grazing the top third of all plants in a diverse community of plants can be achieved, unless animals are trained or bred to do so.
Any animal will graze selectively if given the choice. Therefore, instead of grazing the top third they will selectively graze a third of the material on offer - some individual plants will be grazed to a varying degree and some will be left ungrazed.
The ultimate result is better body condition at the expense of stocking rate and species composition.
• A far better option is to address body condition via genotype (high relative intake), rumen supplementation (minerals, protein, urea and probiotic), synchronising production with natural nutrition (calve, breed and wean during the period of best nutrition) and shorter grass recovery (higher nutrient concentration) at critical times.
In regard to a shorter recovery period this applies more to low octane grazing. Deliberately shortening the recovery periods must be done with the provisos of grazing “non-selectively” and alternating these intensively grazed areas with long recovery in the long term.
Non-selective “overgrazing” in combination with high animal impact and alternate longer recovery results in good species composition and maximum profit / unit of land.
There is a serious disconnect in the Holistic Management group between cattle and grass.
References: Johann Zietsman and Jaime Elizondo
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profitableranching.com/Profitable_Ranching/THE_Book.html
Have you ever read holistic management literature?You seem to be criticizing it at face value based on some other literature.Check their website or listen to talks by Gabe brown, Joe salatin
The fires in Australia is showing us just how right he is
Sorry, I have missed something here. If there is no grass for the livestock to eat at the beginning, how do they eat? How do you begin the process?
Julia Mary Marple usually by rolling out hay. The key is to get the animals to impact the land then move them off for a while. Greg Judy talks about this in much shorter videos.
@@awesometommyc Thank you. I can see how that would work, plus any seed in the hay could be dropped and trampled in, or passed in their dung also.
Everybody goes back to the drawing board, the family unit, the schools outdated specially in history, the government, the social media should rethink what they are doing now. And fix all the problem here at home ,Earth before going outside space. Pollutions,global warming, deforestations, social and moral problem, drugs addiction , crimes. We have the means the technology to do it.
Are the desert areas of Asia and North Africa listening yet?
I remember how total grazing was reduced by more than half by overgrazing when I was in Morocco 20 years ago. The land was covered with thistles and grass was nonexistent.
An interesting example of "mob grazing" was the the Passenger Pigeon. They would settle on an area so heavily branches would break. The following year the trees would explode in growth from all the droppings left.
The degradation in the Middle East can be traced in the Bible. When the Israelites arrived in Palestine, they were primarily herdsman. From the armies raised, it can be seen that the population peaked about the time of King David. 300 years later, only a fraction of the population could be still sustained.
If the national park he describes had large numbers of grazing animals (elephant, antelope etc) then why was it aridifying in the first place?
Removed the Apex predator, humans. The humans on the land concentrated the herds and insured that the herds would keep moving. Same thing happened in Yellowstone with the wolfs. Of course humans with modern rifles would not be a good idea but the presents of primitive humans is what made it work.
What I am not understanding is if the land is bare and you put a whole bunch of livestock on the land, what are they grazing on? Are you shipping in a whole bunch of food for them? That’s the only thing I don’t understand about this system
Seeds in their manure plus the fertilizer from it.
keep the land covered.
Don't worry about the rural people, they still know how to grow food. :D
***** www.grazingbestprac.com.au/research/grazing/AGEE3851%20Grazing%20management%20impacts%20in%20north%20Texas%20v12011.pdf
Amen!
Red Baron Farm not any longer 😓
Their governments will claim the land and subsidise GMO cotton if given the chance though
Until the realtors made it too expensive for a person willing to farm to buy.
eck this short film "What I ate in 38 years" by Yuri A / R. Mond , he is Swiss and now follows a carnivore diet, a diet low in animal products made him ill @
Personalized diets-- blood type O thrives on meat, A's are more inclined to vegetarian diets-- follow Dr. Peter D'Adamo -- makes loads of sense.
Go on a look into that
RIP 40K elephants
A costly mistake, at least we learned from it...
This is the outcome of the dishonest "scientific thinking" that goes on in our current society. Let that sink in... they slaughtered FORTY THOUSAND elephants to "save the environment"! The outcome: they made the problem worse! Criminal!
@@agentmacguyver2974 Yes, sad I know, but it has helped to come to the realisation that it was wrong, and hence, find the correct path. Now that it has be found we can now work on this towards a healthier ecosystem and the whole life across the world not only for humans, but other animals including elephants of today and their future. Therefore, one could understand it as their sacrifice to help the planet and the future of their own spices, and so their deaths were not in vain.
It pains me to hear im say it 20x as I go through his work, looking for nuggets of gold :(
I have asked this question of the Savory Institute before. Could native herbivores take the place of domesticated animals? It is the act of mimicking natural grazing patterns that need to take place, so why not return native herbivors to the landscape?
An excellent book I highly recommend is "Defending Beef". Don't remember the author, but she's an environmental lawyer and vegetarian who's married to a cattle rancher.
Author Nicolette Hahn Niman
You ought to check out the China red sand that they used to plant trees in the desert it's pretty amazing they're saving their desert thousands of Acres every year thousands
plant shrubs!!! tree's and grass alone won't bring enough structure to soil to lift it's water carrying capacity, the previous ecosystem in its entirety needs to be recreated for successful reconstitution of desert. look to how Costa Rica expands biological reserves in the wake of cattle farming ; they have an answer to land degradation there.
Sandstorms in the panhandle of Texas has decreased every decade. I guess Texas has fixed there warming issue
“Civilization as we know it “ needs to change. Drastically.
VEGANS-- beware. You just got Rekt.
He's doing a similar thing that Peter Andrews has been trying to accomplish in Australia. There are youtubes of his work up right now.
I heared an Arabian farmer say to me that in there is a famous belief in their ancient culture that putting animals on the farm land blesses that land & must eventually raise its value & price.
When I asked him, is it their fertilizing effect, he said no! & continued, that though animal dung does fertilize, its not what I'm referring to with this.
He said its a mysterious blessing especially noticeable when horses are on the premises, that doesn't occur w/other animals.
Then he quotes a saying of their prophet, "There is a blessing/goodness/sustenance that hangs as a necklace from the necks of horses".
Is it always the case with us, that we toil through long-winded scientific testing with no consideration of prophets who might be pointing us to shortcuts.
A man tells us there is a gold mine here, we go & look, though we know he's not a miner. Yet we won't give God a chance, because of the decency he demands.
Iam with you sir WOW truth
Would method work in Australia? We do not have much top soil here.
What are the wild animals that livestock replace and why can't we harvst the wild instead of introduced livestock?
+Fred Kirsch we all need both, but not all eat the wild life. l do not want to eat a lion, but there are some who do. but all need to be controlled hunting.
+Fred Kirsch We (humans) ought to Go VEGAN, and eat mostly/entirely a plant-based diet, while encouraging MAXIMUM Biological diversity of our Locally Native Wildlife species, by Encouraging, and Increasing the numbers of Grazers/browsers, and Large Predators which would encourage those herbivores to keep moving around upon the landscape!
+Fred Kirsch for example - cow "replaces" bison.
In order to have proper wild animal herd behavior, predators would be needed. But people generally don't like to live near predators :) Also, humans like to create fences etc...
No, cows DO NOT replace the bison. That's a myth.
Myth: "Cattle Have Replaced the Bison"
www.publiclandsranching.org/htmlres/wr_myth_replacebison.htm
@@guloguloguy You still need massive amounts of land and water to grow all that plant-based diet though, which would disrupt the movement of any herd and deplete the soil
Amazing!
Did he just say "i killed 40.000 elephants'....
Yes but that was when they thought it was animals that created soil degradation and there was an abundance of elephants at the time. Alan has never forgiven himself for instigating the slaughter of these amazing animals and because of that he has dedicated the rest of his life to researching climate change and his consensus of how animal stock is required in keeping our lands sustained.
More grass ; less CO2.
Sh*t I can't believe they killed 40 000 elephants 😡, i can forgive the lies to the people but god damn you people are cold...
I saw videos that said the opposite,fence the goats and the trees and vegetation grow back
me too.
Allan Savory says that they are wrong. Can you show some web links?
@@rolfpoelman3486 ua-cam.com/video/nAGHUkby2Is/v-deo.html
This is the link that says due to animals forest doesnot grow.
@@rolfpoelman3486 here is one ua-cam.com/video/-4OBcRHX1Bc/v-deo.html
another,better ua-cam.com/video/IDgDWbQtlKI/v-deo.html
40,000 elephants slaughtered ( or ‘culled’ as some would prefer to call it ) , for no good reason... just as they did with the plains buffalo in North America
The national park, and state forestry commission, by me burns the park off every year. Of course no grazing allowed.
The meek shall inherit the 🌍 Baaa
The US is actually losing population. And I would guess all of the highly westernized countries are going to be losing population as well.
By design, over popualtion is a big fat UN nwo agenda2030 climate change lie.
I would say it is a very good idea to do and it is very important to the Africans.
25 milimeters = 2.5 centimeters = about 1" just saying.
Yes, it’s true. Mr Allon Savory not only talks about Sheep’s and Goats, but all other animals, like Cows, Buffalos and wild animals. If you don’t maintain Eco-balance of the nature, human beings cannot survive. They should keep in their mind that they not only live on this earth, but other species, too. Therefore, they should mend their ways and style of living so as enable the nature to keep them alive, otherwise not. Rest in their hands, what to do and what not! Bye.
It is true the cities and rural areas are like two different worlds, when we the farmers first entered Hong Kong the big city, we felt so frustrated and very insecure, and the smell of gasoline made me vomit so much, that is how bad the air quality is, the industry draw people's attention to make big fortunes, and neglect the importance of the food producing land, overall when we look at the past and present, moneyBob really dominates our societies, Satan the beast gave him so much power, human beings started the world with disobedience and lies, one mistake leads the other, generation after generation the mistakes swirling up like a giantic tornado covered the sun, I hope to learn more about the holistic management, I guess if we don't participate, there will be no reconciliation at the end with the lord of heaven
Very thoughtful talk. Thanks for publishing it
my favorite mammal,sheep!
Did Savory mention that the brown grasses that are not eaten or trampled to the ground where (in living soil) the soil live can recycle them - OXIDIZE and release CARBON into the atmosphere? This happens in humid regions with more even rainfall also, if not as much.
Yes he did mention that in another. Which is why you have to send the animals through there.