Serial Killer Monk - The Buddhist Expansion - World History - Part 2 - Extra History
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Buddhism teaches people to meditate, moderate behavior, live by ethical codes, and maintain love for their family and community. But why did Buddha's message appeal to so many people? Even with heavy competition from other religions, his words spread and endured over the centuries, continuing to foster spirituality in an ever-changing and chaotic world.
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As a Catholic something interesting about Buddhism is the similarities between Catholicism and Buddhism. Know, as a catholic i don't agree with a lot of buddhist spiritual ideas, however the coincidences are pretty interesting. The conflict between Brahmanism and Buddhism is similar to the conflict between Judaism and Catholicism and the way the religions expanded is similar, starting with small but strongly united communities and growing through the conversion of civilians, soldiers and politicians, in fact many of the first churches were gifts of roman legionaries who converted. And Ashoka the great has similarities with Constantine the great in that situation.
Are you aware that it is offensive to refer to a Buddhist monk's alms bowl as a "begging" bowl?
Im excited for the one where buddhism expands to other asian countries and the martial arts as I practice taekwondo and also BODHIDHARMA THE INDIAN MONK THAT BASICALLY FOUNDS SHAOLIN KUNG FU!!!!
Fun fact: Angulimala literally means "garland of fingers". Ancient names were really on point 😅.
He's the kid named finger
Damn, that's horrifying
…maybe if his parents had named him something less violent he could have skipped the mass murderer part of his life and gone straight to the Enlightenment part.
When "Carthage" was founded, the punic name for it was "qrt-ḥdšt (𐤒𐤓𐤕 𐤇𐤃𐤔𐤕)". Which translates to "new city".
And then they did the same name again with "Carthago Nova" in Spain.
@@LordOmnissiah Angulimala was an epithet of sorts, given by the people of the surrounding areas, his serial killer name. His real name, the one that his parents gave him, was "Ahinsaka" meaning "The Innocent One", specifically because astrologers predicted a violent future for him upon his birth and they (the parents) wanted him to avoid it.
angulimala must have been really dedicated to that diablo award to camp for how long just to get his kills in
999 kills
Like, you were so close from serial killer greatness, like you were THIS close
Like yea bro could have gotten a nuke or an asteroid
Blue sus! Lol!
In another legend it is 99 kills. Still a lot.
There’s a reason why a nuke wouldn’t work.
According to the story, the reason why Angulimala killed each one was that his former teacher asked him for 1000 little fingers of the right hand as a sort of ritual/sacrifice. (It was a plot by his classmates and teachers to get him into trouble due to their jealously)
It's fascinating how so many historic figures have bled over into being quasi-mythological over the centuries. They were real, we know they were there and did important things, yet they've become so much bigger with every retelling of their stories that the line between fact and fiction is often blurred with them 😊
yeah right if you believe those crazy stories of "Walpole" (such a fake name) are real than you really are crazy
@@jokehu7115no he’s right a lot of mythological figures were based on real people Gilgamesh is a good example of this
@@jokehu7115 Which Walpole? And that's a well known surname from what I can see.
@@literallynobody9769 im honestly schocked people don’t recognise that im being sarcastic and more importantly don’t know the most important walpole in history on a extra history video. The south sea bubble is one of their best series, so much fun and really informative.
@@JohnShepherd117yeah i can easily believe giglamesh was real but robert walpole?! He becaome the first priminister, tore down the berlin wall, invaded the inca empire, fought in the great northen war, crusaded .. and he always “did it” yeah sure buddy
You can tell the artist is left handed. They instinctively drew this monk writing with his left hand at 8:22 and the monks at 6:50 are all in a stance which would indicate left-hand dominance. I love seeing left handed artists drawing all their characters left handed, it's such a small thing but once you notice it you don't stop noticing it.
People almost always shake with their left hands across all episodes, too.
I'm left handed myself and have drawn some art and it never occurred to me to draw a left-handed character. I personally find it very jarring when I see like art of warriors holding their shield in the wrong hand and that kind of stuff.
He must be evil.
@@frankie3010Positively sinister.
I’m ambidextrous but write left-handed (right hand is still too messy). I don’t usually mention it when writing my novel but, in my head, the main character is left-handed. A lot more are than in real life.
A good appendix episode to this series (or maybe this can be covered in the lies episode) can be a one off episode on Jainism, focusing on its interactions and debates with Buddhism. Both developed contemporary to each other, were hetrodox to the prevailing Brahmanism, with like 80% overlap in doctrine but remaining 20% being significantly different.
IMO it cant be understated how significant both Jainsim and Buddhism were to each other's early development.
The Buddha did try Jainism and found the starvation quite pointless.
When it comes to the spread, although Jainism was a large enough faith practised far and wide, today it's limited to a few places.
The diet is simply not doable for many people.
More importantly, you can't realistically practice Jain levels of non - Violence (ahimsa) if you're a farmer.
50% of Buddhism is Abhidhamma. It explains the core teachings in Buddhism in detail better than any other religion.
@@rustomkanishkaBuddhists looked at starving and said, "nah, too hard"
@@rustomkanishka My point was about how the debates and comparative study between Buddhism and Jainism influenced the development of both the religions. The fact that both faiths wrote down a lot of their literature (in an era when writing was comparatively new to the subcontinent) meant that the practice of comparative study went on for quite a few centuries.
Its slightly less relevant if we are exploring the historical spread of Buddhism, but very relevant when exploring its doctrinal development
As a Catholic something interesting about Buddhism is the similarities between Catholicism and Buddhism. Know, as a catholic i don't agree with a lot of buddhist spiritual ideas, however the coincidences are pretty interesting. The conflict between Brahmanism and Buddhism is similar to the conflict between Judaism and Catholicism and the way the religions expanded is similar, starting with small but strongly united communities and growing through the conversion of civilians, soldiers and politicians, in fact many of the first churches were gifts of roman legionaries who converted. And Ashoka the great has similarities with Constantine the great in that situation.
On the notion of redemption and non-violence, the famous Ashura statue at Kofukuji temple in Nara, Japan is another great story and worthy of a mythology episode, imho.
Interesting
That's a wonderful idea!
As a Catholic something interesting about Buddhism is the similarities between Catholicism and Buddhism. Know, as a catholic i don't agree with a lot of buddhist spiritual ideas, however the coincidences are pretty interesting. The conflict between Brahmanism and Buddhism is similar to the conflict between Judaism and Catholicism and the way the religions expanded is similar, starting with small but strongly united communities and growing through the conversion of civilians, soldiers and politicians, in fact many of the first churches were gifts of roman legionaries who converted. And Ashoka the great has similarities with Constantine the great in that situation.
@@MagdaVillafuerte-bw7dq Earlier Catholic missionaries actually referred to it as the Catholicism of the East or something like that, though I think they were specifically referring to Tibetan Buddhism.
From the Catholic Encyclopedia "Catholic missionaries to Tibet in the early part of the last century were struck by the outward resemblances to Catholic liturgy and discipline that were presented by Lamaism-its infallible head, grades of clergy corresponding to bishop and priest, the cross, mitre, dalmatic, cope, censer, holy water, etc. At once voices were raised proclaiming the Lamaistic origin of Catholic rites and practices. Unfortunately for this shallow theory, the Catholic Church was shown to have possessed these features in common with the Christian Oriental churches long before Lamaism was in existence. The wide propagation of Nestorianism over Central and Eastern Asia as early as A.D. 635 offers a natural explanation for such resemblances as are accretions on Indian Buddhism. The missionary zeal of Tibetan lamas led to the extension of their religion to Tatary in the twelfth and following centuries. While Northern Buddhism was thus exerting a widespread influence over Central and Eastern Asia, the earlier form of Buddhism was making peaceful conquests of the countries and islands in the South. In the fifth century missionaries from Ceylon evangelized Burma. Within the next two centuries, it spread to Siam, Cambodia, Java, and adjacent islands."
A Little Backstory for Angulimala.
When he was little he was inspected by a wise man who would prophecise that he would be a killer, his parent tried their best to kept him away from being one, enrolling him to schools and such which he become the teacher favorite student until the other jealous student spread lies to the teacher such as Angulimala flirting with the Teacher's Wife or Daughter iirc, the Teacher punished Angulimala that he must collect 1000 Left Thumb before he could return to his studies.
After many years Angulimala managed to gain 999 Fingers, but he was wanted by the Kingdom so his mother try to find him, Angulimala found her first and thinking of killing her for the final finger(which is a BIG NO NO in Buddhism), Buddha sees this and /Teleport into Angulimala Position so he would target the Buddha instead.
There's also other Stories where 2 Kingdoms who relied on a River almost go to war when the River Dried up, before both side's Kshatriyas clashed Buddha appear in the middle of the field basically asking both sides why they're spilling blood on a drying river and helped both Kingdom to manage the Drying river until it flows again.
Angulimala getting bonked by his own bowl is actually pretty tame for people who repent to become a monk, as a Butcher who become a Monk have to Die of Smallpox because of his horrifying act when handling his stocks, like breaking the legs and wings of birds so they cannot escape when in captive. When he was bedridden the Other Monk distances themself to not catch the smallpox, until the Buddha came and taking care of him which somewhat force the other monks to help him until his death.
wow I was about to say that too good job at learning tho
Edit: u got a little wrong at that birth of angulimarla part the wise man actually said that he will be at a blessed one's path and he was special but he warned his parents about the killer part so... only that was a little left off but GREATGREATGREAT JOB ABOUT THE BACKSTORY!! 👍👍
A cool little side story for Angulimala (referenced with the "performed miracles animation", he once heard a mother in labour and, upon noticing her excruciating pain, made a "satya-kriyawa". (directly translates to truth-action). He prayed saying that "upon being reborn (meaning upon being ordained), I have never hurt a living being with intention. This is the absolute truth. With the power of this great truth, may this mother deliver her baby as quickly and as painlessly as possible." And upon saying these words, the mothers pain relieved and she gave birth to a healthy child.
Where I live (In Sri Lanka), the Anguli Maala Sutra is still recited when a mother is pregnant. My mom said that she herself had it recited when she found out I was being born.
P.S. This is the version of the story I've heard from my local monks. There could be multiple interpretations so just FYI
Mild correction, you don’t always get pitched to hell, the realm of your rebirth is determined by your Actions, so hell is reserved for those that have done many grave actions (at least in the schools I am familiar with)
I think it’s usually that you go to hell if you have been a horrible person, or if you were in heaven in your last life.
The idea is that if you live so well that you reincarnate into heaven, you’ll burn all your good karma there. But because heaven is already pretty much perfect, you’ll be unable to gain new good karma there. So when you die you will only have bad karma left, and you’ll go straight to hell.
That is why just living a good life isn’t enough. Even if you live a perfect life and only get good karma, you’ll still end up in hell. Suffering is inevitable.
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@@MeneerSoepgroente today's world is like simi heaven soon humanity will progress to level one of Mount Meru to top level of Mount Meru heaven
Oppression of the Caste system was also a big reason for acceptance of Buddhism and the fall of braminism
Correction: The first Buddhist monks and nuns WERE allowed to eat meat. They just were not allowed to slaughter animals for food or grow their own crops for food. In fact, Devadatta, the cousin of Buddha who was famous for attempting to kill Buddha and split the Sangha actually instituted vegetarianism as a mandatory rule for monks who joined his breakaway group. The reason why monks and nuns in East Asia do not eat meat is largely because of negative cultural attitudes towards begging and living off alms. As a result, monks and nun in East Asia had to be as self-sufficient as possible while at the same time committing as little violence against sentient beings as possible, which is why monks and nuns in East Asia are vegan while those in Southeast Asia, Tibet, Bhutan, and Mongolia still eat meat and beg for alms.
Do monks in east asia not beg for alms?
@@ej4458monks don't really go on the streets house to house like in Thailand or Lanka , but they do receive offerings / alms at their temple and cook their own food
I think the intro gives us an interesting morality test question because Buddhism asks you to feel happy for the murderer if he gets to break the cycle of death and rebirth.
Which is very hard to do.
If the murderer gets to break out of the cycle of Samsara, then we should feel happy for him - why? Because if he is an Arahant, he paid his karmic due. We all must pay our karmic due before being free. In a sense, he is better than us - for whatever debt he has incurred - he has paid for it. We are still "on the way" paying off our debts, while incurring new one. An Arahant cannot incur new karmic debts because he has rid himself of Greed, Hatred, Delusion. So in all his actions - he does it without Loba, Dosa, Moha (greed, hatred, delusion).
There’s a background story to this - in a past life Angulimala was a giant turtle who saved the lives of 1000 people who were shipwrecked, but they’ve decided to kill and eat the turtle who saved them. The mother was the only 1 out of the 1000 who did not agree with this so she wasn’t killed in the end.
So if you think about it… sigh. Samsara.
It's literally the same thing in Christianity.
@@thastayapongsak4422 No, Christianity teaches that soul is immortal and contradicts reincarnation. Also, to contrast, Penitent Thief story teaches that a repentance is enough, period. No karma, no dues to pay, you're free as soon as you repent - it was important to note that the Thief was already crucified, so it was physically impossible for him to repay anything or become good or whatever in life, as he died soon after, and in tradition becomes the FIRST person to follow Jesus into heaven.
One of traditional beliefs is before Resurrection, souls awaited in Sheol, Judaist underworld similar to Greek Hades. But note that there wasn't one view in Jewish faith on that, i.e. in New Testament we see conflicts between Sadducees, an aristocratic denomination that didn't have afterlife, and Pharisees, which was the denomination later Rabbinic Judaism was founded upon, which shares a lot of beliefs with Christianity, despite being THE most critiqued religion by Jesus in Gospels. There were also other splinters like Essenes (of Dead Sea Scrolls fame) living a hermit lifestyle in caves and rebellions Zealots, which put minor religious differences aside as they considered fighting back against Rome more important.
And Purgatory is a mostly-Catholic concept closer to Buddhist Arahant, but it's not based on canon. IIRC, there's still debates between salvation based on Faith and salvation based on Deeds (and views that work in both and/or either), but the somewhere-in-the-middle temporary place between heaven and hell is not a widely followed belief.
You mentioned sickness and Yama/Yamraj. One year and two months ago, exactly, I had a fever and a hallucination that I saw Yama. It was pretty terrifying, but a cool story I tell from time to time.
Really loving this series! The combination of specific narrative scenes with larger social analysis is really effective
One of the things that, in my opinion, helped buddhism spread quickly was its flexibility. It wasn't interested in keeping a inflexible orthodoxy and dogma to spread rigidly like christianity, but it was a very elastic set of ideas, philosophies and teachings that easily blended in with local religions and ideas, helping to create the numerous (very numerous) schools of thoughts that exist even nowadays. I made a reserch for university on the subject, it was very interesting to interact with numerous monks of the various schools of thoughts.
Flexibility can be good, but if there isn't a firm foundation on which you build your ideology, it serves little to no purpose. "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything".
@@cometmoon4485 there is a foundation, as the video explains, of the 5 universal truths, but then each sect and school of thoughts developed differently on those 5 truths, (which aren't dogmas, more like facts) and, also taking in teachings of local cultures and different religions, created different branches of buddhism, sometimes in contrast one to the other, which is inevitable in the human nature.
For example, one school of buddhism i interviewed, had a art of Jesus Christ in their meditation chamber, cause they considered him a sage, a man of great wisdom that tried to teach a pact of enlightenment that find answers to the 5 truths, one of many paths. Another such sage was, for them, the Prophet Muhammad (blessed be his name) and so on.
@@giacomoromano8842what branch of Buddhism is that ?
@@miguelatkinson it was a smaller branch of Zen buddhism that is itself a smaller branch of Mahayana buddhism. It was founded by a japanese zen monk that escaped in America after fellow monks were not very happy with his ideas, and for that reason his ideas were influenced by Christian beliefs. Buddhism is diverse like that.
Because of that flexibility, when I was younger I tended to explain Buddhism as more of a meta-religious philosophy that many different Buddhist religions followed rather than a singular religion.
A small nitpick....Yama is actually a god. In Hinduism, Hell and heaven is managed by Yama and he is the God of Justice. He is portrayed in Hinduism not as a demon, But as a menacing, strong but always calm god, who as all gods are supposed to be handsome, sitting atop his bull
even in bhuddism yama is not mentioned as a demon he is just doing his live
In my region though there is Yama a nat (god like spirit) who rule hell and judge people and tagarmin( aka sugar king) also a nat who rule heaven and all nats. Its like if you do bad things in life you go to hell and is reborn as a animal or a ghoul. If you did good things in life you go to heaven and is reborn again as a human again. And if you did a lot of good things in life as a human and reach enlightenment you escape the cycle.
When people with good karma dies they became a nat and lives in heaven.Nat also dies and reborn sometimes as humans. Sometimes when nat dies and in heaven uses up all his good karma they sometimes goes to hell. And there is a higher being than nat called byahmar or smth who is a higher nat who lives longer and is more enlightened which can be achieved if the nat have a lot of good karma
And you can actually ascend from byahmar nat hood to a higher level. Which is a god like mara who tried to kill buddha.
And there has also been three more buddha before Gautama which are Kakusandha, Koṇāgamana and Kassapa. And we are at the gautama era. There will be the next buddha matteya and when he is born the world will end and restart or smth. It is said they will find enlightenment on a different tree and whoever met him and learned his teachings will goes straight to nirvana when they died
Ive studied the Buddhist History (in India mostly I don't know what happened out India) and let me tell Ashoka the Great was always my favourite historical king because he literally was like
"Killing people... Kills people??? That's not good" and then just decides to stop
Ashoka the Great, the Emiya Shiro of ancient India.
As an indian its comical how big of a charactwr arc ashoka went on😂bro had the redemption arc of all time
I Do not know if you know the significance of this but Anguli-Mala means finger garland or garland of fingers. we Bengalis in India still use the word "Angul" for fingers and the word "Mala" for Garland. Just Shows the continuity in our Culture.
In Hinduism there is a concept of moksha if lived a peaceful and good karmic life.
Instead of 100+ births, get rid of your bad karma, and graduate to moksha asap.
For a lot of people who would have seen a lot of pain, the solution sounds perfect.
Good show. Thanks for the great content guys, gals an everything inside and out of the spectrum at the extra history team. Especially you, Zoey!
Another story related to Angulimala is that he wasn't on killing spree for no reason. His former master (another monk, likely) thought he and the master's wife had affair. So that the master tricked the poor, innocent Angulimala to kill people.
Never heard this, but I love it. I always heard the version that master was jealous of angulimalas prodigal ability.
It is fascinating to learn about Buddhism because I'm familiar with Sufism in Islam and Lao-Tzu, so the rejection of desires is quite an interesting topic.
One of these days, I’d like an Extra Credits video series about the life of Jesus, what his teachings were, what was the significance of his legacy, the concepts of sin/redemption, and how do monotheistic religions compare to each other?
As a Hindu I think it would be great to know more about Jesus another good being who served for the betterment of humankind like Lord Ram, Buddha here and Prophet Muhammad.
Yeah, there are very few videos on the life of Jesus, Christianity and western history as a whole in UA-cam.
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@@yj9032 because it is controversial
@@rajdipdas69 it’s only controversial because most of the videos talking abt Jesus seem to be Christian preachers that insert Christian morals and lessons into those videos, and I’m guessing the non-Christians are not into it.
I’ve seen for example, School of Life’s video on Jesus and it’s quite excellent. And even outside Jesus, media on religion/faith can be made well, under the right people. Look no further than movies like Prince of Egypt.
Fun Fact: Gojo's infinite Doment is taken from one of Buddha's ablity to expand infinite doment from this Angulimala story.
Your source ? Trust me bro?
@@YoSora1313it’s very straightforward. Gege has stated and evidenced through story its Buddhist influence
Fun fact
The name angulimala literally means "necklace of fingers"
Parents can be so mean with what they name their kids sometimes.
(Yes, this is a joke, I know his parents named him something else and this was a name he took later.)
@@Merennulli Yes, his parent named him Ahimsaka, which means harmlessness. Later when he became a monk he retook his original name.
Angulimala would have fit well in Elden Ring
Excellent video. Thank you for this video. Your videos are awesome. Short and sweet. I became a fan of you. We always appreciate your hard work to make these videos. Also we know it takes a lot of time and hard work to make these videos. Love from Sri Lankan fan of you.
You mentioning the Chinese Buddhist and soldier joining reminded me of that movie Shaolin about a Chinese warlord who becomes a Buddhist monk
The reason why ancient India is not precise in their time keeping is due to their religion. Indian religion stretches a vast amount of time. In Buddhism, for example, one can talk about "kalpa" - estimated to be 14 billion years. And kalpa comes, kalpa goes. 20 kalpa forms a Mahakalpa. And at the end of a Mahakalpa, it starts again. Time is beginningless and endless.
It is different from Christian or Islam who holds the view that the world will last only a few thousand, maybe a few hundred thousand years, then judgment day will come. So it is important to keep a strict record of who did what at which year - a very linear view.
But ancient India view of time is cyclical - kings come, kings go. Dynasty come, dynasty go. Each time a king comes, he tend to introduce a new calendar - so the ancient Indians didn't really keep track of the calendar and time.
On the one hand it's cool that a belief system can grapple with such large amounts of time but on the other hand it sound like a poor excuse for having bad records of history.
@@leonhardeuler7647 Indians had really really bad records.I am an indian and it is a travesty how bad this was.Sometimes we don't know which king came first,then many times we don't know who fought who and when.For example it is recorded that some indian kingdoms fought 'tajiks' ,who were actually arabs.Indian records say that the barbarians were destroyed,however nothing about the battle or location etc are available.
I was wondering if persians also were the same.
İ dont think islam celarly says when the apacolypse will come. İts a cristian thing. İslam says there will be signs and there wont be any muslims left on earth when the end day comes. there is not a date for it
The Buddha's treatment of women is so weird. When Ananda asks if women are just as capable of achieving Nirvana as men, the Buddha says they are. Additionally, in the Mahaparinibbana Sutta, the Buddha claims that his intention from the start was to establish a sangha of both monks _and_ nuns. And yet he specifically refused to ordain his aunt until both she and Ananda had requested it.
It would be nice to think that the Buddha would never be so sexist, and some point to the comparative harshness of non-Buddhist treatment of bhikkhunis recorded in the canon as indicating that the Buddha feared that women would be taken less seriously as teachers of the dharma than men. But it's also undeniable that there is a certain current of sexism through the canon, even in the advice to laypeople about how to live their lives and find suitable spouses, etc.
There are those who think that this may have been a later interpolation; either arguing that the additional rules were imposed after the Buddha's parinirvana and retroactively attributed to him, or that the Buddha never ordained women at all, and that the bhikkhuni sangha was itself a later development.
It is ever weirder than that. The passage that explains how the bhikkhuni sangha came to be also has the Buddha prophecise that once women were included into the sangha, the true teachings would be lost in 500 years, rather than a 1000. This is apparently the only prophecy in the entire Pali canon, which makes it rather suspect. So if it isn't originally a Therevada text, where does it come from?
Well, Mahayana Buddhist literature does heavily feature prophecies. The early Mahayana movement was primarily spread across three schools: the Mahasanghika, Mahisasaka and Dharmaguptaka. Of these, only the Mahisasaka school held that women could not attain enlightenment. They were also the most southern Mahayana school with a presence in Sri Lanka. The Mahisasakas there eventually joined the Theravada school, so it makes sense some of their texts made it into the Pali Canon.
@@Ecoraptor3339 Well, it's not the only prophecy in the Pali canon, but it is the only one that deals in a specific measure of time. Which still makes it suspect.
Love your videos guys! Keep up the good work!🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Proud of y'all for addressing the human side of Buddhism, the warmth, mutual reaffirmation, and community that just weren't in my experience of Christianity, rather than just hitting the highlights of the religion's origins. Keep up the good work!
Note that Angulimala translates directly to finger-garland/finger-necklace. The drip wasn't just an artistic choice.
I hope they talk about Tibet and the 14th reincarnation of the Dali Lama, Tenzin Gyatso.
8:45 it is not during the first Buddhist council Buddhism was written on paper. It was during 4 th Buddhist council.
I love how you guys are approaching this!
So there is actually some debate over whether nuns were meant to be seen as lower or not, it is my understanding that it was added later by some of his followers as societal norms at the time were very patriarchal and they wanted to mirror this. I mean in the lotus sutra there is a young woman who actively attains Buddhahood
Yeah that checks out honestly. I seriously will never get why men decided to just go along with this deluded idea that women were inferior.
What a disaster…
I've heard that Buddha was worried that too many people would leave villages causing degredation of society
love that you didn't even try to slide into an ad break
I hope you do a history video or video series on the Quakers & Abolitionists. 👍🏻
It was reading TVTropes page for Demon Slayer of all things that broke down for me that the Buddhist concept of hell wasn't too far off from the Christian concept. At least in purpose. It was while watching the show that my gf commented on the word choice of the translators to use "hell" when discussing the fate of the many demons, to which I elaborated. She then pointed out that that was more in line with Catholic purgatory than the truly eternal torment of Christian Hell.
Yeah, even words like "meditation" and "monk" which evoke Buddhist imagery in my mind are words borrowed from largely Catholic use. I do prefer a kind of Buddhist-Hybrid-English using the original Pali/Sanskrit words to avoid outsider connotations, but that's hardly making the text accessible to English speakers. On one hand, Bhiksu, Dhyana, Naraka would each require a paragraph of explanation to justify not using an approximate translation; and on the other, there are 1000+ page translations of cornerstone Mahayana texts which never once use even the word "Bodhisattva", which can make it difficult to further research the topics or make connections with other texts
Not sure about India, but in China (also Japan and Korea) the robes are always left over right, forming a "y". The Chinese monks shown had their robes backwards.
Fun Fact: Angulimarla isn’t actually a serial killer, in his childhood at school his classmates had a grudge about him for being a star student, so they told their teacher lies and the school teacher thought it was real so he ordered him to get 1000 real life human fingers.
Also, when he became a follower (student) for the first time, every threw rocks at him which was NOT actually the main point😅
This vids give me an urge to reread Osamu Tezuka's Buddha.
I maintain that the highs and lows of existence, forever, is indeed the best.
I think that's why a human birth is considered the 3rd best and 4th worst. Do good, and you'll live for millennia in Tushita Heaven where luxuries are everywhere you look; do bad, and you'll be lucky to be an animal that has to scavenge for food every day. Life could be as a hungry ghost with a small mouth and an un-fillable belly, or as a hell-being with a lifetime of burning and torture. It's not half bad here most of the time, but an average day here isn't the average of what you've already been through
Id love to see these episodes with the rest of the major religions
found this channel from Vlogging through History, great find!
So in the modern age, the cycle of death and rebirth can be represented in Mr. Bone's Wild Ride
Angulimala wasnt just an ordinary killer, he was an educated high-born man name Ahimsaka ( No killing) , in fact, he rivaled his own Guru (master), stronger and wiser than anyone, which ironically, was the cause for his downfall, for people jealousy, and thus he was outcasted from the society and resolve to violence. That's why he could be a notorious bandit/ killer, for such strength and intelligence, not even Royal army matched him, let alone the ordinary, who scared them so much that given him the name Angulimala ( or 1000 little fingers), but it also meant that his mind is exposed to idea, like Buddism, that after having conversation with one unlucky Buddist, he grew intrige and came to meet Budda, where Budda recognized him and knew he could be saved, thus lead us to what happend in the episode. Still, according to the story I heard, there are another milestone when he and Budda help delivered a child, thus erase his guilt of having known only killing and ganied confident in repent journey, and after being beaten nearly death, he stranded back to the monastery, free from all guilt, as he knew his karma was paid in this very life, for among those people beaten him, was the wife of that unlucky Buddist, who ironically, his fiance before his exiled.
The true story is more tragic.
Angulimala was born from tragedy and circumstance. He was not always blood thirsty, he was a stunning good nature pupil sent to learn from a great teacher. He fell in love with the teacher’s daughter.
One of his classmate got jealous and turned the teacher against him. In Asian culture teachers are given near god like status. The teacher ordered him to bring 1000 pinky finger from the left hand to him so he can marry his daughter. As a dutiful student he obeyed his teacher.
Years went by for him to fulfill the task until he got 999. At his point his mind was so warped from his original state from all the murder that all he thought was killing.
As fate dictated the final victim would have been his mother. The Buddha in his wisdom saw this and intervened to save his soul. If Angulimala had killed his mother, his soul would be sent straight to hell.
The story ended the same in the video. He became a monk and sought to undo the damage after seeing the error of his way.
I mean. You can remove people's pinkies without killing them.
Love this series so far, they're telling some of the really good stories.
Ok, as a westerner who lives in Washington and enjoys the band Niverna, every time I hear the word, I think the band
This belongs in Extra Mythology
This episode has so many mistakes!
1. Buddhists don’t believe everyone goes to hell between rebirths. It’s a full destination and only one of six possible realms, not an in-between destination required to burn karma. (Maybe they just meant some other Indian religion believed this though?)
2. Early Buddhist monks were not required to be vegetarian, though there were some restrictions on what meat they could accept in their bowls.
3. The first council would not result in written scriptures. The discourses were memorized orally and wouldn’t be written down for centuries.
4. There were not 18 schools by the time of the first council.
Some of this is very basic stuff. Please fact check anything before using this video as a source.
"STOP! I want your fiiiingers."
"I have stopped, you just passed me."
"oh".
Wait... An episode about ashoka maurya? Wow we're soooo close to a subseries on the indo-greek or the Kushan
Interesting references I picked up:
0:52 Kung Fu Hustle: The end of the final battle, with "the beast" becoming the student.
3:30 DBZ: King Jamma reicarnating Kid Buu as Uub.
Love the story and all, but that ad break transition was hilarious.
nice to learn more about about this topic we don't discuss often enough
Southern slave owner response : wait I saw both episodes and I saw scary demons in both.
General Sherman : hmmmm
Southern slave holder : Aaaaaaaah!
I hope you do Tibet, that must be been crazy
I call shenanigans if there's no reference to Ahsoka for Ashoka video.
At the very end, when he's talking about Buddhism spreading and the idea of Buddha being a king, the captions didn't say the name, but rather "a Joker the great" as Buddha's new kingly name.
That is Catholicisms temporal judgement and restitution because although temporal remained after Devine forgiveness 9:42 .
A Serial Killer Monk, that's an awesome character for a movie!
Like a gamer deciding to touch grass than finish one last quest.
Interesting video, did not know like any of the knowledge stated in here. What I’m wondering about is if the “Political Transformation” effect comes. One of the most notable examples would be the Crusades, started not because of religious disagreements, but because a Political Body (Byzantium) Asked a religious body “The Catholic Church” for help in a Political War. Really all religions, at some point, have mixed with politics, then unmixed. I’m just wondering if Buddhism had that problem…
Not to my knowledge, Buddhism was pretty much ousted from india due to being against casteism. I have read that shaolin monks were asked to fight pirates and one of them became a leader. Apart from that, I don't know if we had anything similar to the crusades.
That was a beautiful way to tell the Angulimal story
A finger collecting serial killer? As a certain Japanese god dog would say, YUBI YUBI!
Might have taken up an extra incarnation rather than exiting the cycle or rebirth entirely... a modern world stands to benefit from modern means to reach an audience, after all...
This proves that religion can help a person turn their lives around. I know that I am stating a Captain Obvious fact, but people now these days forget that a lot
Enlightenment isn't religion is s way of life, a moment of true happiness and understanding the inverts for a fleeing time before coming back to reality.
bro really went from "IM GONNA STEAL YOUR FINGERS" to "please teach me sensei" in like 5 seconds
0:51 So they definitely have the 999 finger bones, right? If not picture this as a plot of a movie. It would take everyone’s suspension of disbelief. Yet people think this happened in real life with no proof.
I can’t wait for Ashoka the Great the man deserves a series of his own
the 1st episode really made me want to follow it
I would love Cadfael to come across this monk
Some faint similarities between Angulimala and the Apostle Paul
It'll be fun to learn about Ashoka in the week before we get the Ahsoka series.
I don't know, this still feels more like Extra Mythology than Extra History
Braminism is not a precursor to Hinduism.
Sanathana Dharma has undergone some changes from the Vedic times but, Vedic teachings can't be termed as brahminism. A Rishi can be any enlightened individual.
I wonder if the story of Angulimala inspired the 'Blade of the Immortal' series?
Angulimala litterally means "Garland of thumbs"
Anguli means thumb and mala means garland
Angulimalas real name was ahinsaka. His teacher made him do this and turned him into a killer and people named him anguli mala which means a garland of fingers. He became an arahat and his pirith is used as a safety pirith for pregnant mothers.
There’s literally a temple in thailand 🇹🇭 called baworn which is an acronym for house Temple school 🏫
Can you post sources in the description? i would like to read more about it
Recommended reading will be released in our lies video
In Hindi, aunguli mala straight up means "Finger necklace"(Aunguli-finger/Mala-necklace)
didn't expect Ashoka the Great to come here! But I hope you will consider making a Chandragupta Maurya or Mauryan Dynasty series.
I find it kinda sad that nobody talks about Atish Dipankar (অতিশ দীপঙ্কর) who, according to my research, caused a lot of the spread of the relegion from India to Tibbet and China
Honestly kinda cool, I wonder if they will do the same for Islam, different groups of Christianity, Taoism, or Judaism
Depending on the sects, monks have different restrictions on food. Orthodox Theravadan monks may eat meat as they cannot demand on want the community provide for them. Mahayanan monks cannot eat meat due to their oath against killing of animals. Please do more research. However, your contents are interesting and insightful. Keep it going...
Speaking of "Finger Collecting"🤔🤔I know a Vtuber do the same thing😂😂
Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next
I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai
"Usually they are executed for their beliefs, or directly ascend into Heaven or something" @8:05
Or both.
I might have gone with "Murder Monk" for the alliteration
PANR has tuned in.
Has anyone played rainworld? The lore of the game draws on the escaping the cycle of life and deatg thinking
" Patience has limits"
- Buddha
Uh yes, I would like to experience all the highs and lows of life forever. And it really can't be exhausting if I have no knowledge of previous or future lives... just an infinite number of new experiences both bad and good. THAT aspect of reincarnation is far less scary than ceasing to exist entirely. Idk how people feel any other way than being terrified of that, honestly, and all I can get for answers is rationalizing that in no way addresses the reality that you exist now and won't later.
There is very few chance of high birth. 99 present of your birth will be in low where war is going, where primiral era of kill or be killed, animals realms, etc right now you are just lucky to be born in the simi heaven. our humanity is not even progress to down level of heaven of Mount Meru. If humanity survive we will be progress to top level of Mount Meru heaven. And this evolution of civilization is just one world system there are uncountable numbers of world systems in buddhist cosmology.
Well, Buddhist teaching is that while pleasure and the nice things are fleeting, suffering is constant. And I assume that right now you’re not on your deathbed, so that means that the worst of this life is still to come.
Also, keep in mind that you can reincarnate in various ways, and outside of heaven the human experience is by far the least bad. The other four options (animal, warring demon/Asura, hungry spirit/Preta and hell) are all significantly more unpleasant than what you have right now.
Now, of course, if you don’t believe in all those different realms of reincarnation, then it’s indeed not that bad being a human always.
Anyhow, if you’re curious, read up on “Samsara”, specifically the Buddhist realms of reincarnation. It explains a bit more why buddhism suggests that reincarnation isn’t great.
But how is that any different than ceasing to exist anyway?
You say that because of the good life you live today but, according to Buddhism you only get a decent or good life because of the good karma you've accumulated from past lives. So, there's no guarantee that you'd always be born into a decent place, some people live there whole life with only lows. Look at some poor country like Liberia, I mean most of the world still doesn't have the luxuries or the stability the average person in the west has. Given that, not existing is a better choice. Also, you aren't guaranteed to be born as a human, it all depends on the karma, you could end up in a hell for a lifetime or as an animal or something else.
@@ej4458 "THAT aspect of reincarnation." Wasn't speaking to Hinduism or Buddhism generally.
Please do a series about the historical christ
That's one helluva cold open