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I like a QD sling mount so you can take it off and on easy when doing weapon maintenance and upkeep. Sometimes it’s just nice to get the sling out of the way
Yup. My thoughts exactly.
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Cleaning your rifle is a great example of why having a QD sling is nice to have. Also, if sling gets hooked on anything for some reason it’s easy to remove. I’m sure there are other perks but #1 reason for me is being able to remove sling easily just before separating upper and lower for any cleaning, maintenance or trouble shooting.
It's easy to move to another rifle.
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THANK YOU!!! I get so tired of youtube "operators" suggesting you can't do anything effectively without a $60.00 (or more) quick adjust, 3-point/1-point, tacticool sling.
This video was good, I am sure he will sellout as he joins a youtube stream team
A sling for a rifle is the same as a holster for a pistol.
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Im using slings with qd swivels everywhere I can. They have some minor advantages as you mention in the video over non-qd, but for me the main one is being able to remove the sling easily during cleaning. They're super annoying especially on AR-15 where you can't remove upper from lower compleatly when you have sling attached "permanently”
QD’s give you options to mount sling in different locations/shooting applications. QD’s attachment points can make the weapon lay on your body/equipment more ergonomically. The money you pay for QD’s buys you time. If I need my sling off quickly, don’t want it on my weapon, want to change mounting points or need to make a hasty tourniquet out of it. At the end of the day… run what you can afford and use efficiently.
Yup. Solid point about the improved ergonomics.
BFG vickers quick adjust and quick detach, worth every penny
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Absolutely!
i agree
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Pro tip: on both ends of your sling tie in bungie cords then tie those bungies to your weapon so your sling has a nice shock absorbing ride.
I carry a separate complete upper in my bag for CQB so I use the qd to help swap uppers.
In other channels I've watched, the main reason for the QD's is because they run multi-point slings to allow for shooting from the weak side around obstacles, etc.
They're always flipping back and forth between sling configurations. I'm not saying that I agree with it, just reporting what I'm seeing.
I have one QD on the stock because of the type of stock that I have. It doesn't have an intuitive webbing slot. The QD doesn't rattle. I use a standard A2 sling swivel up front. I don't do the multi-point sling configurations.
shouldn't they train to be able to do that with the sling configured one way? you can't switch qd points in a firefight or do they think so?
@@cagneybillingsley2165 My impression is they do think they'll be doing this in a fight or in brief pauses behind cover. Search single point a two point sling and you'll find the videos.
Me and my friends all use surplus canteen slings for our ARs because they’re relatively comfortable and cheap. They’re the canvas ones so okay as far as durability goes too
I have two that were given to me. They are in a bag as i still have original handguards on my rifle😁 , its an old A1 model, im old to
Quick release and 3 point slings were invented to fire with your left hand if you are pinned in limited cover. I agree with Grunt Proof, simple is best, however that is why they were invented. Say your pinned, standing with limited cover, and suddenly your receiving fire from your right. If you have this standard sling you can not return fire with out spinning around and exposing yourself or somehow getting yourself out of the sling while pinned. The 3 point sling has a quick release buckle to lengthen the sling to allow you to switch hands quick and start returning fire while keeping exposure to a minimum. With a two point sling you would have to move your arms through and around the sling so you can fire left handed. Same for the quick release. This does create the problem of getting tangled in your gear, which is another reason for the quick release. There is no prefect sling, but that is the reason. I am not saying it's good or bad, it's just one of the reasons for 3 point and or quick release.
interesting
The other thing you can do with a 3 point sling is grab the two long sides, then throw them over both shoulders and turn the rifle into a backpack (biathlon style).
I found that out purely by accident! Might be useful for a "sniper" role where you would have to crawl a lot and didn't want to bang the rifle into things.
@@acem82 another thing for a 3 point, is to cut it up and make a 2 point with a buckle. I tried a 3 point for one training and took it off.
Video pops up as I'm looking up slings
I am guilty of running the QD slings. I’ve always just used the Magpul ms4 slings. They are like 50 bucks but they have never let me down. It was “the thing” from my infantry days and I’ve just always used it. I like removing the slings when rifles go in the safe and for maintenance. But hey I’m not ashamed of it nor do I oppose standard slings. Very informative video and spot on.
The carry handle actually was a protective cover for the original charges ng handle which ran across the top of the receiver, and reciprocated with the bolt. This got very hot while firing, and was quickly redesigned to be non reciprocating, and pulled from the rear of the upper receiver. The sight channel was left there until the AW ban in 1994, when people started making flat top uppers to get rid of the carry handle.
Vikers makes a padded ar sling . It works and all you need
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Ditto
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QD sling studs I find are a bit overrated, but quick adjust two point slings are where it’s at
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Great insight, I like to keep it simple
I've been looking for a new sling for different preferences so thank you!
Edit: I've also never spent more than 10 or 15 bucks on one either
one reason for a detachable sling is being able to run the sling on as much rifle as possible to depending on shooting positions and gear and also to run the sling on different platforms quickly and easily. Fan of your channel grunt
The we'd work for me.
1) I haven't noticed them to be noisy and, yes, I do pay attention to things like that.
2) I have noted that when my slings are attached at the muzzle end of the rifle that, as I walk and move around with the gun, it tends to want to move to a level itself. The muzzle works its way up as the butt pad works it's way down. This is awkward and annoying. My hand guards all have a QD point at the receiver end of the guard and attaching the sling there allows the weight of the barrel to help keep the rifle slanted in a more comfortable position.
3) I haven't really noticed a difference between "expensive" QD swivels and the "cheap" ones. If something looks cheezy in the product photos then don't order it.
4) I'm not sure what sort of QD cups your friend was using but if they're coming unscrewed then he clearly needs a different solution. I have not noticed that on any of my guns. The cups are built into my hand guards and the retention screws used in my Magpul stocks have never gotten loose.
5) Room in my safe is often at a premium and it sure is convenient to be able to just detach the sling when I put the gun away and there's nothing to get snagged on other stuff when taking it out of the safe.
Perhaps you're just used to the gear you were issued when you served and if that's the case then, very cool. I'm not convinced there's a wrong answer here. The traditional attachments obviously work for you and I would never try to convince anyone that your viewpoint is invalid. I'm just offering my $.02, for whatever that's worth. If, in the future, my solutions ever prove themselves to be unsatisfactory then they will be unceremoniously discarded in favor of something else.
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To the point. Thank you!
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Good stuff and thanks!
Magpul MS3 here, with the slide adjuster. Lengthen or shorten as needed. But the clips went into the drawer the other day, and the sling feels better to me.
Rifle is an HD gun, and was zeroed today. 90 rounds at 25 yards. indoor range. Both Optic and Buis. Sling ensures weapon retention. Also added a flashlight cap from Hammy on Amazon. Keeps light ND to a minimum. KIll flash mounted on the optic.
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great point....i would rather get a cheaper basic sling and spend the differance on food for the wep or another mag.....
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It’s because they are cool, and we all know the most important consideration when choosing tactical gear is looking cool.
Qd is nice for changing uppers or stocks. Also for slings that can go from 2 point to one point via QD. Also for changing the area on the handguard where the sling attaches. I like carrying it with sling close to receiver but for those sling assisted shots I would want it farther forward
In Iraq and afghan I used two zip ties taped together with duct tape and would hang it from a carabiner on the shoulder of my plate carrier. Would patrol with the rifle unhooked from it. Now in my civ div days I use grossly overpriced two point slings. Funny how life goes.
Thank you.
I never understood the “quick detach “ sling mount either. To me, attachment is the whole point. The swivel feature can sometimes be cool, and sometimes a pain in the butt. Another great video!
If that forearm is fairly new, less than 5 years or so, there is no need for an insert. It's machined into the billet when it's made. Just pop the QD in and your done. Also, there no need to have a seperate sling for every pew pew as you can just move the sling. And it makes it easier to do PMCS on your pew-pew.
I use the QD because the attachment points are integrated into most modern rail systems, this allows for multiple attachment points enabling you to mount your sling where it’s most comfortable for YOU. ( fit the gun to you, not yourself to the gun )
I have the adjustable Magpul Ms1 sling with paraclips and homemade paracord loops. Works great for me and it quiet.
I have a basic strap adjustable just like yours and it has dog Clips on each end of it which has to be taped so they don't make noise, I attach them to the original attachment oval rings you are perfect about what you say no one taught me what you showed I learned that On My Own by telling the weapon daily in the woods
He makes a point of why you need to quick detach. The price of those nice slings are way up there.
Is it needed? Nope. Just a quality of life improvement that CAN improve performance. This makes me think back to when we were stationed south of Baghdad and some of our guys started buying red dots(we didn't get issued any at that time). I was like, iron sights are good enough! We don't need no red dot nonsense!
Sure, I was 18 and ignorant, but I was right. We didn't NEED red dots or other optic add-ons. It wasn't until my second tour that I actually got to look through an ACOG for the first time that I changed my tune about optics. Same with slings. I was perfectly happy with my stock, issued sling on my SAW with 550 cord on the front end to make it easier to handle. It wasn't until I was buying stuff as a civilian that I got to experience what a newfangled sling could do for me that I bothered 'side-grading' to get the new type. It was comfy and versatile.
You are not wrong. Especially about how quiet you want your sling to be. And a lot of people should hear your perspective so they can be given a reality check. Consumerism is rampant in our kind. It gets out of hand for a lot of us. To hear a rather experienced combat veteran say, "WTF is that shit for? You spent money on THAT?" is very useful.
Personally, I run a 1 1/4" OG black cotton web sling. I use it primarily for supporting the rifle when shooting. Hasty, or Hasty Hasty, or even the Loop position where you disconnect the rear and loop it around the arm. Great in Prone, sitting or even standing, yet it takes time to get it together. Awesome at the range and in competitions. I definitely took the metal clip off and used 550 on the front and a QD release on the butt end. So much more quiet, and since it's an AKM I made sure to not use black and go with OD green so it looks mismatched and trashy. However, this setup you have going is more practical for most every other situation. Probably a lot easier to take a dump in the woods, or reload mags (bandage and brass time), even rub one out behind a pine tree whereas with the GI I'm forced to use the stranger method, right hand is occupied.
I like it man. Thanks for spreading the info.
Onehundredconcepts has a paracord QD sling mount that I use on my issued sling. Haven't had any issues with it yet but the thing Is 30$
QD's biggest benefit to me is just being able to change attach points according to the circumstances. Having the the sling attach points closer together makes for easier weapon manipulation and kit access, further apart makes it more stable when your hands off the gun. As the man says, you do you.
My QDs make it easier to swap uppers around lol
The main benefit I've found is i can swap one sling between multiple rifles that already came with qd mounts.
Great video. Very clear. You made many solid points. 👍 In my opinion Quick Detach (QD) sling attachments are less about tactical functionality and more of a convenience factor when separating uppers/lowers for cleaning, maintenance, storage, etc. My favorite is the BFG Padded VCAS with QD attachment points, but it also has a useful sliding quick-adjust function which is superior to a shemagh, 550 cord, or basic nylon strap. Warning: I have seen other brands' QD sling attachments fail in cold weather making the sling useless and dumping the gun on the deck. So buy with caution. I've only used QD attachments from Blue Force Gear and BCM and they've been reliable. Just add a drop of oil during routine maintenance.
A couple of mine have the quick detach as well, but I don't care much about that. I think the quick adjustable slings are nice however. You just grab it and tighten or loosen it depending on what you're doing.
Main purpose of the weapon sling... so you can have both hands free to hold your tray in the chow hall.
A sling is used for maximum stability for the rifle and also sustains confidence in the shooter. and also used to carry with
In my line of work we use qd mounts. They are strong and I have seen some qd mounts last through some crazy stuff.
I prefer three point slings because of how it makes the weapon hang when my hands aren't actively controlling the weapon. Just feels more natural to me and the straps are wider. Likewise, you have extra room if you need to quickly transition shoulders. I figured out pretty fast, that the three point positions my rifle stock nicely out of the way if I have to do rifle/pistol transitions. The whole "QD thing" never really made sense to me beyond the "Oh S**t buckle in the middle of the $12 condor sling I've used for a decade. Get a sling that's comfortable to wear for extended periods, and holds the weapon how you like it (IMO). My 'expensive' savvy sniper sling with all the QD bells and whistles was a nice stepping stone in figuring out why i like what I like.
Having just started to do some short distance rucking I carry my rifle. I have found I have a tendency to carry my rifle horizontal and then place both of my hands on top of it as an arm rest.
I've always been a fan of short 550 cord loops for my sling attachments. Cheap, quiet, and can find a place to put them anywhere.
That's how I set up my 22s
Yuuuuuuuuup hahahahahahaha on point bro, keep it simple, QD's are NOT the way.
Single point is the best imo. But I understand it's by preference and what works for each person
1. So, you can patrol unslung and not snag on every GD branch in thick vegetation.
2. So you can QD and switch shoulders without a f-ing lasso around you, to consider.
3. To save time and movements during IMTs
single point B-stock magpul at gunshow. $15 carbine stock already has the mounting points.
Rifle has 2 point bastardized 3 point, for the side mount on the stock.
One use case for QD slings is when your sling gets hing up in your ruck. Another is in H2H when your opponent grabs the sling from behind. Not that I think it’s awesome, though ai do have one on my AR and think it’s handy.
Slings.
The only reason I can come up with for the use of a QD sling is if for some reason it is being used against you either in a fight or drug by something.
I've had a few of them and a single point sling. The single point sling I find absolutely useless and it cracked me in the nuts a few times, so it was used to hang my weed eater from, works great for that.
I have one on my main rifle like yours, it just works, planning on making a leather sling all because I like leather, no tacticool reason.
Now the one I used before was homemade using a water bladder hose sleeve, a couple of clips and some Bungie material, it functions nicely and has no places to bind when transitioning, only issue is it can't be cinched tight.
Oh, remember when people were using those three point slings? That was hilarious
I personally hate the quick detach slings and would rather go back to the old ways of attaching slings. Can you do a video on LPVOs vs. Red dot/magnifiers?
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QD swivels from arisaka are cheap and built so they dont pop out accidentally, also if that hole is already in your handguard you dont have to screw them in. To me the QD point shines if for some reason youre going from weapon to weapon amd dont want to buy 5 slings. Or if maybe you have to pick your buddies rifle up, you could swap slings when you get the chance. I find that it only rattles if im deliberately shaking it to make it rattle, ill try and tape it up and see if i can get it silent while maintaining the QD feature. I run QD in the front and standard sling loop through the buttstock in the rear. I have found that sling that come with fixed QD hardware are very expensive but you can get the sling separately and save some money. BCM QD swivel $15, slings range from $45 to $60. Obviously there are cheaper options. But i make tips so i can buy something nice every now and then.
I got my sling when I got what it is for. Simple slings on long arms. I'm of the KISS principle.
Just curious grunt proof how do you attach yours to the handgaurd??
550 cord
@@GruntProof I had a feeling you'd say that lol
@Grunt Proof Rear attachment point consideration - do you prefer buffer tube sling mount or stock mount (as shown in video)? First enables to easly point your gun up (high-ready position or changing mags), second is more stable when rifle is hanging on your back.
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Green Blob Outdoors has cheap 1pt and 2 pt quick adjust slings for $10 to $15. I bought 6. Not the best in the world but they hold up and have quick detach latches. I don't like the QD swivels either. They are loud and they are never the right size for the QD slots. My favorite is the Blackhawk 3pt sling with quick adjust tab.
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Proctor sling, simple af, quiet af, expensive, but not as expensive as a Vickers or some of the other tacticool favorites.
Viking Tactical slings are great.
Possible benefit: switch front/back mounting on handguard
Idk - I like simple and silent.
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A sling is the holster for your rifle.
So my only reason is to detach the sling from the upper for easy cleaning, and I thought qd was cool. Also, I have a few slings that I use between different platforms…
I like qd slings for cleaning, not for any other purpose
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when going from prone to prone, rushing forward, crouching, the carrying handle makes for faster running.. You take the sling off to crawl thru thick brush, cause it'll get snagged every 5m.bur no QD is necessary. A friend who did two tours in Nam said you only have the sling on the gun when inside of the wire, cause being lazy with the gun will get you killed.
I would have liked to see how you attach your sling. Git that matching duct-tape.
One point vs two point sling?
To be honest. The only reason I have a QD sling. Is because I have one sling for three different rifles, same design different calibers. I found a pack of four mounts on sale so I thought I’d give it a try. To be honest I don’t like them. But I like the sling. I found the QD lets the sling twist and these mounts have the anti twist. So basically I have no selling point for ya.
I used para cord tied to bottom ring and attached to a carabiner attached to my IBA
Can you recommend a 250 dollar high speed operator sling so I can impress my gear queer and Prada trooper friends 😂
I changed to a flat sling because i walked with my old one and the shit sucked with the bungee, bug that requires the miles
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To me the sling on a rifle is similar to a holster for your pistol
No need for the disclaimer about not being an instructor, you’re more of a tactical instructor than I am a tactical shooter, lol
AUG A1... no QD on the sling... if that tells you anything.
I’ve heard the QD might be so you can have 1 sling for multiple weapons and easily change between them but I’m not sure if that has a practical application. Not worth the money imo when you could spend that money on more valuable items like ammo.