Honestly very nice seeing that second game. It's so common for me to end up in a good situation, but throw the game through one or two bad plays, so it's really nice seeing that that can happen to someone like you too. Fantastic to see how you handle it, going through what you could've done better when viewing the replay
10:17 exactly why i send overturds to every corner of the map, or i put them over expansions.. they remain safe and provide constant scout info.. when they are clumped in the main they die to a drop, then you have no supply! T_T
That was awesome to see the first game. I just started playing SC2 after discovering your videos and I have so much to learn... I just finished my placements yesterday & I placed gold 3. I've lost most of my games except like 2 or 3 but it's been pretty fun so far. No negativity so far and it's much less toxic than league of legends. I don't feel i should have placed gold 3 but I'm gonna try & make it work. The only games I seem to win are the ones where I survive an initial attack and then build air as protoss. But obviously I need to get better with my initial game ground forces
Hey, your videos are incredibly cool! Also the 1 vs 7 AI! But Mana broke the record, winning 1 vs 12 cheater insane as Protoss! (He uploaded it on UA-cam with the name “1 Protoss Pro Player vs 12(insane) A.I.) Can you beat this as Terran? Anyway Love your content and glhf!
I don't know if it would work, but I would like to see queens and nydus. Like never stop producing queens, if the hatchery isn't busy making a queen you are doing it wrong. I feel like maybe you could start a proxy hatch somewhat close just to get some creep up to the front of the base and then nydus somewhere else. One problem I notice with queens is surface area because they are so big, so you might have to fight on 2 fronts for efficiency.
Marc, I have an idea. Would you consider organizaing a 2V2 where one team is Z&T producing only bio units and the other team P&T only producing mech units. It would be fun to see mass medivac and mass SCV repairs LOL. Thanks for considering
@@garrusvakarian8709 I know its meaning (good luck have fun), but was more wondering about who should say it first. Without saying it's something wrong, I only remember Uthermal saying it back, never being the first one to say it.
5:50 i bet if you created two drones and then waypoint to your cheese hatch it would be better than pulling drones already on the mineral line :) (which youd need to replace)
First game; So most of the time the initial sieging ( tactical manuevar to blockade your enemy in. ) Typically the most crucial point of receiving nad early rush against you is money management, YOu need ot trade effeciently... What would I have done... bunker, no addon. marine. debate if I want siege tank or banshe. I probably would go starport and into banshee, but there is a risk of a queen walk with it, so if yo uahve a scout still on the map, having them in the pathing area for the queen would be important... get an orbital up and mule mine so you can more effeciently manage your scvs'. Other interesting holds are building a cc and a fortress on the cliff but that is a huge investment. Starport into banshee, banshee and then medivac cna really help... Barracks. Cancel, cc, cancell second baracks and starport is typically more valuable against 90% of the zerg plays, as key weakeness in the species. Are. Zerg weakness is early Air. Queens are okay. If they do queen walk the Banshees can typically destroy the income and relaly kills off the rush. Tanks are nice, but if htey get in it cna be terrible so typically bio units from terran are great, after teh starport get a second barracks, and then build the add on, while one is always pumping out untis to defend. THe weakness for protoss is revealing cloaked units... Since observers are high up on the tech tree. Why is cloaked u nits so good against protoss its that your photon cannons are coistly to get unlocked. All revealing is second tier buildings. Terran has the best with orbital command being a tier one upgrade, simpyl needs barracks.. Zerg can build spore colonies that are enabled in its tier line and are relatively effective, and move and self repair... Lair unlocks overseers, which is a second tier... Protoss main weakness is vision. While zerg is like a bug, and constnatly stepped on by air, but the air itself of zerg once up is effective. COmmon old strategies is going air as terran, and then active scouting, so they cannot ever get up a spire... that was my bane as playing zerg, Overlord sniping and people killing my spires of love.. I would often build two in a game, for how much I valued it. That is why I think protoss allowing sentries to use their guardian shield as a way to see clocked units would be a tier 1 revealer, with warp gate this means they can get sight quickly. Observors are too slow... often... I would take a faster observor wit ha super slow deploy time... Its simply becasue of the chain of structures needed means the time to do x is delayed. Terran has access to all things tier one tree. IE effective air and cloak defence. Zerg... has effective cloak defence but lacks air defence early. Queens are okay-ish, before queens typically see fast lairs ,because others would oftne use air against zerg.
i'm 38, haven't played starcraft 2 since the expansion packs hit. I love your content, so fun I might just pick up the game again for old times sake. Maybe my son would enjoy the playing :0
I recently got into WC2 and have watched most of ur recent videos. I really wish we could use the other commnadors in pvp, i never play pvp bc its already hard to play with terrain or even protos 😂 but i can definitely play stukov 😏
Idk if zergs still have any mind control unit... but if it has @uThermal wouldn't it be nice to have a challenge where you MC the opponent's SCV or protos drone and then build a combo of their units with zergs? xD
I think with how much you're doing in these games, it's basically necessary to put a Photon Cannon on the edge of bases no matter what, just to stop drops because of how hard they can hit
..ok my man... Last game was good.. But the early aggresive expo is the shit! If you can make it work it would be absolutely phenomenal! ..maybe biulding a spine/spore asap to increase the pressure? and then queen for the heals/creep. It would be demoralising for the enemy to say the least!
I don't know why you were happy with the cheese of the second game. I thought the terran definitely came out ahead in that exchange. I felt like you were on the defense the whole time.
2nd game you said you're not happy with your zerg gameplay but i really disagree ! You took a nice advantage, defended the counter then overdrone and die ... it's spot on zerg gameplay X)
I'm confused about that alejandro game. All we did was built a hatch in terran's natural and dealt no other damage, and we are in a "fantastic" position? What the hell am I supposed to do as terran when zergs do this? Just gg out?
Oddly I was a little happy to see you lost that round😂.. only because I just came off your hold out series with the newer players and consistent stomps
Larva production is annoying.. if you know its collapsing, Roaches are good solid cheap defensive unit, over marines. Seeing a medivac was visible in teh hatchery before death, so/ spore... most poeple woudl rather go for units before a spine, jsut for mobility defense which turns into an offence. You knwo a drop is coming so I would roaches so all larva are spent then into one spore per natural. We knwo hes on one base, so you just have a time limit ot balance out. Medivac makes terran army deceptivly effecient. SO meh... I would say over droned. When zerg is attacking if your not fully commited or you see them balancing out your movement, then its a time delay youve created, so you need ot build more units... to balance out with them. So meh... Roaches would of helped a lot, don't worry about saving some money, for a building as zerg since you can produce all units at once. SO another more advance strat with zerg is, one taping your hatcheries, so whe nhtey get three larva spend that one extra larva, so larva is lawys producing some sort of unit... so when hte building of the deried unit comes up. you mass produce this unit... 8-12 roaches.. probably 3-6 would of lived... and you would still have the queens... so the second attack you would have more roaches.. allowing you an easier time to defend... if your being attacked... double spore could be good idea... in a hatchery.. so how I look at it, is 5 spores early game isn't a bad loss for zerg s ince you can just move them around later ot your other expansion hatcheries, Zerg defensive buildings are great in teh sense you can move them where needed or to deter... so its cost investment is realyl good. but hydras are better if you get access. If you survived the second, it would be expand, and hydra den.. start producing hydras... and defend an dhten you go into lurker den, but don't spam your hydras into lurkers a few at first and have lings... but jsut... if a push fails... you need specific units... to defend effectively... in this case you knew it was a drop of about 8 marines... with a medivac... delaign with marines splahs and single target fire is best, tsi why range of roaches or hydras are better then lings, lings cna soak up damage, but the aibltiy to target fire units (not too much overkill - early) you cna reduce the use of hte medivac and stim power.
9:59 per usual, whether it be bronze or grandmaster, all terrans are paralyzed with fear about what a zerg can do to them.. i've never ever met a terran who would come out from behind his wall, they bunker in and turtle and the cancer metasticizes so deeply, by the time they poke out they have lost the whole map to my greed expands.. i reached high diamond at my best..
second game super cringe and super bricked and so dumb. Predicts attack, sits does nothing. Makes 1 spine, loses hatch. makes 2 spores. Loses spore, doesnt bother sending the other spore to the fight. That would have went completely different if you made 3 spores and 3 spines like 30 seconds earlier. Is this some kind of weird pro player autism, where losing or keeping a reeaper or a drone is huge, but then whole games are tossed in the trash without even trying.
That first game was so wholesome, great opponent. uThermal is always great.
alejandro got cheesed and ask for the sauce, well played
God I loved seeing that. Props to him
Legend.
The double split ling drop in your last game was amazing. I want to see so much more of that.
cool to see people ask for tips on what they could've done better, good response uT
Love the way he politely asks the drones to turn around in the heat of battle at 11:15. XD
The titles, the passion, the recent growth is not at all luck. Keep up the great content!❤🎉
100%
Making good content for such a big yt channel serious work.
yup, started playing starcraft 2 after his videos!
Thanks!
That game 3, sheesh... that's like a lore-accurate zerg overwhelm, everything gone in minutes. Scary stuff, well played 👏
The 2nd game felt like marc playing against himself.
Second game was like uThermal being hit by one of his own strategies.
Also love that you provided some tips for the first player
Game 2: This is what it feels like to lose to the Penguin brothers.
Honestly very nice seeing that second game. It's so common for me to end up in a good situation, but throw the game through one or two bad plays, so it's really nice seeing that that can happen to someone like you too. Fantastic to see how you handle it, going through what you could've done better when viewing the replay
Alejandro has the right attitude for playing a game!
I see uThermal...I click uThermal.
He came , he clicked, he uThermaled
Love the good vibes and helping people who ask for it
a couple of chads in the first game
A very nice Exchange with the Advice Asking and giving. A refreshing Alternate to the usual Salt.
Game three was absolute destruction. So entertaining to watch. Thank you!
silly challenge idea, try and burry some banelings around their minerals for a nice surprise when they set up a second base
Great games, from the cool dude in the first one asking for advice to the double drop obliteration in the 3rd!
Props to the first player not ragequitting. If I had lost my marines to the zerglings spawning into me, I would have alt+F4 so hard
10:17 exactly why i send overturds to every corner of the map, or i put them over expansions.. they remain safe and provide constant scout info.. when they are clumped in the main they die to a drop, then you have no supply! T_T
That was awesome to see the first game. I just started playing SC2 after discovering your videos and I have so much to learn... I just finished my placements yesterday & I placed gold 3. I've lost most of my games except like 2 or 3 but it's been pretty fun so far. No negativity so far and it's much less toxic than league of legends. I don't feel i should have placed gold 3 but I'm gonna try & make it work. The only games I seem to win are the ones where I survive an initial attack and then build air as protoss. But obviously I need to get better with my initial game ground forces
Great video. I can't wait to try that overlord drop in my 4v4 games and totally fail at it XD
Hey, your videos are incredibly cool! Also the 1 vs 7 AI! But Mana broke the record, winning 1 vs 12 cheater insane as Protoss! (He uploaded it on UA-cam with the name “1 Protoss Pro Player vs 12(insane) A.I.) Can you beat this as Terran? Anyway Love your content and glhf!
Loved these games! This episode was pretty awesome. First game opponent was pretty cool and the third game was just filled with glorious glory!
I don't know if it would work, but I would like to see queens and nydus. Like never stop producing queens, if the hatchery isn't busy making a queen you are doing it wrong. I feel like maybe you could start a proxy hatch somewhat close just to get some creep up to the front of the base and then nydus somewhere else. One problem I notice with queens is surface area because they are so big, so you might have to fight on 2 fronts for efficiency.
Dude I got ovi dropped on the ladder yesterday 😂 i told my opponent that I got thermaled
.. He said yup.
Ive definately been loving the 3 games per video per day haha
Thanks so much Marc!
Damn that was nice af and humble of you to give Alejandro advice. So sick the ego pro players. uThermal, you're so refreshing :D :D
Ling drop is super funny but it makes me think of the proxy 4 rax marine push. It’s a cool and effective cheese!
Marc, I have an idea. Would you consider organizaing a 2V2 where one team is Z&T producing only bio units and the other team P&T only producing mech units. It would be fun to see mass medivac and mass SCV repairs LOL. Thanks for considering
As having randomly joined the Drunken Outlaw DOH clan, I commend the gentlemanly behavior of that first Terran.
How does the "glhf" thing work in the beginning? Who should say it first, and will you not write it if the other person doesn't?
@@garrusvakarian8709 I know its meaning (good luck have fun), but was more wondering about who should say it first.
Without saying it's something wrong, I only remember Uthermal saying it back, never being the first one to say it.
@@leonidas5448it doesn't matter who said it. It's just formality
5:50 i bet if you created two drones and then waypoint to your cheese hatch it would be better than pulling drones already on the mineral line :) (which youd need to replace)
First game;
So most of the time the initial sieging ( tactical manuevar to blockade your enemy in. )
Typically the most crucial point of receiving nad early rush against you is money management, YOu need ot trade effeciently...
What would I have done... bunker, no addon. marine. debate if I want siege tank or banshe. I probably would go starport and into banshee, but there is a risk of a queen walk with it, so if yo uahve a scout still on the map, having them in the pathing area for the queen would be important... get an orbital up and mule mine so you can more effeciently manage your scvs'.
Other interesting holds are building a cc and a fortress on the cliff but that is a huge investment. Starport into banshee, banshee and then medivac cna really help... Barracks.
Cancel, cc, cancell second baracks and starport is typically more valuable against 90% of the zerg plays, as key weakeness in the species. Are. Zerg weakness is early Air. Queens are okay. If they do queen walk the Banshees can typically destroy the income and relaly kills off the rush. Tanks are nice, but if htey get in it cna be terrible so typically bio units from terran are great, after teh starport get a second barracks, and then build the add on, while one is always pumping out untis to defend.
THe weakness for protoss is revealing cloaked units... Since observers are high up on the tech tree. Why is cloaked u nits so good against protoss its that your photon cannons are coistly to get unlocked. All revealing is second tier buildings. Terran has the best with orbital command being a tier one upgrade, simpyl needs barracks.. Zerg can build spore colonies that are enabled in its tier line and are relatively effective, and move and self repair... Lair unlocks overseers, which is a second tier... Protoss main weakness is vision. While zerg is like a bug, and constnatly stepped on by air, but the air itself of zerg once up is effective. COmmon old strategies is going air as terran, and then active scouting, so they cannot ever get up a spire... that was my bane as playing zerg, Overlord sniping and people killing my spires of love.. I would often build two in a game, for how much I valued it.
That is why I think protoss allowing sentries to use their guardian shield as a way to see clocked units would be a tier 1 revealer, with warp gate this means they can get sight quickly. Observors are too slow... often... I would take a faster observor wit ha super slow deploy time... Its simply becasue of the chain of structures needed means the time to do x is delayed. Terran has access to all things tier one tree. IE effective air and cloak defence. Zerg... has effective cloak defence but lacks air defence early. Queens are okay-ish, before queens typically see fast lairs ,because others would oftne use air against zerg.
Idea for a challenge: Can you beat lower ranks who have infinite amount of money?
responding to questions from a dude you smashed is the HIGHEST form of online class.
i'm 38, haven't played starcraft 2 since the expansion packs hit. I love your content, so fun I might just pick up the game again for old times sake. Maybe my son would enjoy the playing :0
I recently got into WC2 and have watched most of ur recent videos. I really wish we could use the other commnadors in pvp, i never play pvp bc its already hard to play with terrain or even protos 😂 but i can definitely play stukov 😏
12:46 hey sometimes we eat it.. but lets be honest, terran got the new cyclone which saved him, basically..
Idk if zergs still have any mind control unit... but if it has @uThermal wouldn't it be nice to have a challenge where you MC the opponent's SCV or protos drone and then build a combo of their units with zergs? xD
Alejandro the real MVP
3rd game was insane. need more of that. xD
I tried the last game build order and I am absolutely crushing the ladder :D
The mother of all Artosis pylons on that third game, holy moly.
I think with how much you're doing in these games, it's basically necessary to put a Photon Cannon on the edge of bases no matter what, just to stop drops because of how hard they can hit
No need for a hatch to mine gold, can just make an extractor and use 1 drone
I honestly came due to the (Seriously, watch it) as i read the seriously in your tone. I'm quite surprised myself.
Last game in particular was clutch
3rd edit : Bangin' !
Overload drops are going to be better in the new patch, let that sink in.
the overlords were really bunched up in game 2. giving them custom rally points like you do for the other units should help scout the drops coming?
MG2GM mind games to grandmaster: fake cheeses into macro play
That was the dirtiest ZvP I think I have ever seen. As a Protoss main my stomach just sank😢
i have subscribed because you are pretty cool
I've done a million long drops, try dropping creep. Good for blocking new buildings
Style points if you nydus and ov drop, bring queens thru nydus and creep away!
SUDDENLY zerglings, thousands of them
Yo that last game was insane though
That last game, yowsa
Can't complain about being served a Cappuccino 💁♂️☕
game 1 good sportsmanship
A quick cyclone or siege tank absolutely ruins a proxy hatch.
Next Series, Alejandro to high GM.
Is the new patch active?
..ok my man... Last game was good.. But the early aggresive expo is the shit! If you can make it work it would be absolutely phenomenal! ..maybe biulding a spine/spore asap to increase the pressure? and then queen for the heals/creep.
It would be demoralising for the enemy to say the least!
Florencio once beat me with proxy hatch going for tunnelling claws roaches with burrow, rekt
I really like the gameplay and commentary but I do wish the titles were a bit less click-baity for sure
Amazing last game gg
Wait, is it "SCV pool" or "SCV pull"? I thought it should be "pull" but the opponent said the other and his pronunciation doesn't give clues...
How about a burrow cheese?
I don't know why you were happy with the cheese of the second game. I thought the terran definitely came out ahead in that exchange. I felt like you were on the defense the whole time.
Nice games!
2base Zergling + Queen drop?
2nd game you said you're not happy with your zerg gameplay but i really disagree ! You took a nice advantage, defended the counter then overdrone and die ... it's spot on zerg gameplay X)
I'm confused about that alejandro game. All we did was built a hatch in terran's natural and dealt no other damage, and we are in a "fantastic" position? What the hell am I supposed to do as terran when zergs do this? Just gg out?
bunkers
Game 3 overlords go brrrt haha. GGWP!!!
Very cool games.
"You can't be at 100% every day, guys" - uThermal with some seriously good words of wisdom / life pro tips
Starcraft iv?
you broke it!
Terran players just want to micro drops, it's in their blood :D well done the last one was absolute destruction.
Oddly I was a little happy to see you lost that round😂.. only because I just came off your hold out series with the newer players and consistent stomps
Larva production is annoying.. if you know its collapsing, Roaches are good solid cheap defensive unit, over marines. Seeing a medivac was visible in teh hatchery before death, so/ spore... most poeple woudl rather go for units before a spine, jsut for mobility defense which turns into an offence. You knwo a drop is coming so I would roaches so all larva are spent then into one spore per natural. We knwo hes on one base, so you just have a time limit ot balance out. Medivac makes terran army deceptivly effecient. SO meh... I would say over droned. When zerg is attacking if your not fully commited or you see them balancing out your movement, then its a time delay youve created, so you need ot build more units... to balance out with them. So meh... Roaches would of helped a lot, don't worry about saving some money, for a building as zerg since you can produce all units at once. SO another more advance strat with zerg is, one taping your hatcheries, so whe nhtey get three larva spend that one extra larva, so larva is lawys producing some sort of unit... so when hte building of the deried unit comes up. you mass produce this unit... 8-12 roaches.. probably 3-6 would of lived... and you would still have the queens... so the second attack you would have more roaches.. allowing you an easier time to defend... if your being attacked... double spore could be good idea... in a hatchery.. so how I look at it, is 5 spores early game isn't a bad loss for zerg s ince you can just move them around later ot your other expansion hatcheries, Zerg defensive buildings are great in teh sense you can move them where needed or to deter... so its cost investment is realyl good. but hydras are better if you get access. If you survived the second, it would be expand, and hydra den.. start producing hydras... and defend an dhten you go into lurker den, but don't spam your hydras into lurkers a few at first and have lings... but jsut... if a push fails... you need specific units... to defend effectively... in this case you knew it was a drop of about 8 marines... with a medivac... delaign with marines splahs and single target fire is best, tsi why range of roaches or hydras are better then lings, lings cna soak up damage, but the aibltiy to target fire units (not too much overkill - early) you cna reduce the use of hte medivac and stim power.
❤
that second game was sloppppy
The second game was :( lots of little mistakes compounded.
Nice!
9:59 per usual, whether it be bronze or grandmaster, all terrans are paralyzed with fear about what a zerg can do to them.. i've never ever met a terran who would come out from behind his wall, they bunker in and turtle and the cancer metasticizes so deeply, by the time they poke out they have lost the whole map to my greed expands.. i reached high diamond at my best..
This should be forbidden.
First
second game super cringe and super bricked and so dumb. Predicts attack, sits does nothing. Makes 1 spine, loses hatch. makes 2 spores. Loses spore, doesnt bother sending the other spore to the fight. That would have went completely different if you made 3 spores and 3 spines like 30 seconds earlier. Is this some kind of weird pro player autism, where losing or keeping a reeaper or a drone is huge, but then whole games are tossed in the trash without even trying.