New MMWR CDC study compares covid myocarditis to vax myocarditis | Is it good science?

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  • @darrenthompson427
    @darrenthompson427 2 роки тому +144

    It's almost as if the CDC and FDA have a vested interest in the financial success of big pharma. Crazy talk I know. I'll shut up and take my 9th booster.

    • @ytcomms3945
      @ytcomms3945 2 роки тому +1

      Pfizer sponsors both and they keep exchanging personnel at high level quite often.

    • @gui-texzan7477
      @gui-texzan7477 2 роки тому +1

      🥇

    • @vacayooper4728
      @vacayooper4728 2 роки тому +4

      You can have mine as well.

    • @kathleenkirchoff9223
      @kathleenkirchoff9223 2 роки тому +7

      Just look who is funding them. No conflict of interest if only 45% of your funding comes from the companies you regulate??

    • @ordinaryhuman5645
      @ordinaryhuman5645 2 роки тому +2

      Please make sure it is a Pfizer's booster so my PFE can go up. Thanks!

  • @Soapgirl64
    @Soapgirl64 2 роки тому +77

    The Pfizer papers that recently dropped showed natural immunity just as effective. So if you’ve had covid the question isn’t how many shots should you get … it’s whether you need any at all!

    • @booch326
      @booch326 2 роки тому +7

      Please repeat that for the "folks" in the back!

    • @thomashauer6804
      @thomashauer6804 2 роки тому

      So weird.. They excluded everybody who took the vaccine in the last 30 days.. (and another 30 day exclusion after the vaccine and another one with certain boosters if I am not mistaken ) hmmm.. Selection bias always works. Especially with small numbers in a big population.. Small bias makes big difference . The numbers are so clear.. Hmmm

    • @uwaviator
      @uwaviator 2 місяці тому

      I think Dr. Prassad premised needing the x on whether or not you had cv already.

  • @kevingreer9686
    @kevingreer9686 2 роки тому +127

    It's a big ironic that all the smarty pants people who follow the science don't scrutinize the data and the information they see in the studies. They take the claims of the authors and aren't willing to question anything if it supports their point of view.
    Thank you for being a sane voice advocating for good science.

    • @thankmelater1254
      @thankmelater1254 2 роки тому

      RIght on! Check out Ontario data. They previously showed that the unvaccinated had a lower risk of being a case as of omicron arrival. When that was shown on YTube Ontario immediately killed that page and added other groups to "unvaccinated" including recently vaccinated infected. Still, despite that move, they still cannot hide the fact that the more shots taken, the more your risk of being a case. Boostered people's rates are higher and the difference still growing greater.

    • @johngalt97
      @johngalt97 2 роки тому +5

      In an engineering communications class in the middle 80’s we used a misinterpretation of a ‘climate model improvement’ paper to illustrate that, properly, before buying into any conclusion, one should examine the raw data for integrity and qualifiers, and the methods of analysis used, to see if you agreed. That’s the process and the value of published papers in the process. The lesson was to never assume the conclusions were valid.
      The specific paper concerned a 10x improvement in climate modeling accuracy, in the context of 100x (another 10x beyond the 10x being considered) being necessary before climate models would approach usefulness. Its intended audience were those scientists specializing in climate modeling creation and improvement. Instead, a non-academic ‘journalist’ used numbers in the paper that weren’t useful in final predictions to be just that. That was the birth of the media-driven Global Warming hysteria. Scientific process subverted by media-driven agenda that thrives on scaring the public with sloppy, false conclusions. Amoral scientists (see: Dr. Robert Stadler) attracted by easy grant money joined the fray, and now we have people like Fauchi, perhaps correctly, claiming to be the embodiment of science.
      ”A conclusion is where you got tired of thinking.” -comedian Steven Wright.

    • @tomallen7699
      @tomallen7699 2 роки тому +2

      These are not the drones you are looking for-

    • @paytonfarar2289
      @paytonfarar2289 2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely correct studies are going to be corrupt making vac look great since all evidence in their own papers prove otherwise
      You'll see a lot more
      Need fear back on people need the money

  • @thankmelater1254
    @thankmelater1254 2 роки тому +152

    Vinay is the best. One of the few honest ones left with such necessary skills.

    • @anoptforout
      @anoptforout 2 роки тому +4

      There a lot of honest people that have this skill set…but we’re mostly in the clinic up to our ears with patients or buried in niche corners of academia. Unfortunately, the culture at the CDC, whether atrophied under awful leadership (especially Robert Redfield early in the pandemic) or just not held to any serious academic rigor any more, is a shell of what it was and needs to be rebuilt by people willing to show the dirt and take ownership of the situation, not just protect everyone. It should be handled like a NTSB accident/incident investigation, where we try and do a root cause analysis and intervention to prevent future problems like this. It’s not about a witch hunt for bad actors or bad scientists - it should instead be an audit in the name of public safety. The quality of MMWR reports in the last decade or so has just absolutely plummeted. It’s hard to explain to a non-medical/academic audience what it feels like as a clinician scientist to see work of this low quality being accepted for publication in MMWR.

    • @Smoothobturator796
      @Smoothobturator796 2 роки тому +1

      He’d be even better if he released Malignant as an audiobook.

    • @grainofsand4176
      @grainofsand4176 2 роки тому

      @@Smoothobturator796he read it himself-looks like it's out on audible at least.

    • @thankmelater1254
      @thankmelater1254 2 роки тому +1

      @@anoptforout Yes. Correction appreciated. I'm referring to ones with a voice and platform, but I neglected to be specific.

    • @heynow01
      @heynow01 2 роки тому

      Yet, as much as he tries to be as thorough and relevant as possible, he can't shake his indoctrination.
      It's so funny listening to his inner turmoil as all the data comes out proving everything he has claimed about the need for the vax and mandates evaporates. Yet he still advocates for them with very little or confused logic.
      Just listening to his struggle with submitting to the booster, knowing full well how inappropriate it was for him was enough for me to know, he can't be trusted to think logically.
      No courage!

  • @mrwojna
    @mrwojna 2 роки тому +168

    Oh here we go 🤦‍♂️ CDC paper? Yeah. I already know the results before I even hear them. Vaccine is the greatest thing ever and we should get 40 or 50 of them, daily!

    • @jdw5889
      @jdw5889 2 роки тому +25

      I have a fanny pack with prefilled syringes and had an injection port installed so I can dose once an hour. I wanted a constant drip but the Dr told me it wasn't necessary.

    • @dedetudor.
      @dedetudor. 2 роки тому

      It's not a vaccine.
      Just like the United States of America is not a democracy.
      It is a gene therapy and the United States of America is a Constitutional Republic.
      Dr Stefan Oelrich of Bayer ag and Bayer pharmaceutical says it's gene therapy. Look him up.
      Genetic editing is ramping up. I got two more reviews this a.m..
      They're fighting over the patents. 🙊🙈🙉

    • @dedetudor.
      @dedetudor. 2 роки тому

      I wonder if it would be possible for some AI to do the math on how many images of syringes and needles were shoved in people's faces forced to hear the word vaccine over and over since this thing started globally.

    • @OceanFrontVilla3
      @OceanFrontVilla3 2 роки тому +8

      🤣🤣🤣🙃🤣🤣🤭

    • @felixmoyoedonmi
      @felixmoyoedonmi 2 роки тому +1

      You are spot on mate 👌. It is treasonous to utter any word against the almighty vaccine.

  • @crocholiday
    @crocholiday 2 роки тому +271

    The CDC is not focusing efforts on the most vulnerable because public safety isn't the goal. Vaccine sales is the goal. Once you see this, all the other things that haven't made any logical sense actually make perfect sense. This paper and others are a good example. How does using flawed science to show vaccine side effects are less than illness side effects benefit the public and those most at risk? It doesn't really. How does it effect parents hesitant due to worries over vaccine side effects? How would it effect outcry over more boosters for kids and vaccinating even the youngest children? That's the point. The questions they're not asking are equally as telling...

    • @leevy6753
      @leevy6753 2 роки тому +16

      And yet, Phizers stock continues to stay steady or go up week to week. Pretty insane

    • @pete1853
      @pete1853 2 роки тому +25

      Not just vac sales, but also an agenda of universal vac passports. This is part of much bigger ideas for the future, who will control it, and how.

    • @saralotti7174
      @saralotti7174 2 роки тому +4

      Heretics of product refusal must be tracked and disenfranchised from freedom of movement aka traveling

    • @datruth4766
      @datruth4766 2 роки тому

      I understand the CDC trying to make dollars from vaccines, I don't understand pro-vaxxers with no skin in the game "running with this study". YOU LOST! YOU WERE WRONG ON EVERY FACET OF THE PANDEMIC ARGUMENT!!!
      Really, it's about time to make with the apologies. They amazingly were wrong on everything... EVERYTHING! Even obvious stuff that you didn't even really need to know anything scientific to grasp; it was often common sense.

    • @vward4871
      @vward4871 2 роки тому

      Does ANYONE recall anyone they know suffering from myocarditis from any flu infection prior to this scamdemic?

  • @Nebx1989
    @Nebx1989 2 роки тому +47

    I'm honestly surprised that UA-cam hasn't had a problem with this kind of level-headed analysis yet. I'm glad they haven't - but surprised.

    • @michaelronneseth801
      @michaelronneseth801 2 роки тому +2

      Me too, I've seen his change over the past 6 months to someone much more critical of the "system" because he is (thankfully) fact based and he has integrity. I thought for sure his channel would be censored long ago, along with Dr Campbell's.

    • @davidjuliesmiththomas7983
      @davidjuliesmiththomas7983 2 роки тому

      The reason is simple. People like Vinay and Campbell always say they are in favour of vaccination even though they express doubt about some of the propaganda. As long as they keep saying that, Big tech will let them be. Nevertheless, they walk a fine line. Further Vinay is a mate of Z dog and Z is tight with the regulators due to his past attacks on unvaxxed which he may have modified in recent times.

    • @rtyzxc
      @rtyzxc 2 роки тому

      Tides are turning, the fraud has become so obvious that it's now ok to criticize the system.

    • @therookiemistake9714
      @therookiemistake9714 2 роки тому

      Al facts

    • @ckatheman
      @ckatheman 11 місяців тому

      They keep putting that little CDC message at the top though...

  • @FreeSpeechWilderness
    @FreeSpeechWilderness 2 роки тому +93

    The visuals he uses to explain how the study has selected a small subset of the population who got COVID, the subset with severe outcomes, to make the data show that getting myocarditis is worse from the virus than the injections was very easy to understand. Thank you for keeping the public informed.

    • @trinitytwo14992
      @trinitytwo14992 2 роки тому

      Yes its all Manipulation, they must think we are all brain dead at this point to believe ANYTHING the CDC has to say.

    • @thomashauer6804
      @thomashauer6804 2 роки тому

      Yes and the other selective bias are the exclusions.. They excluded everybody who took the vaccine in the last 30 days.. They are not in the cohort.. And other exclusions.. ..when does Myocarditis occur mostly? Within 30 days after the V?

    • @trinitytwo14992
      @trinitytwo14992 2 роки тому +1

      @@thomashauer6804 yes it’s all manipulation, obfuscation, intimidation, deceit, diversion,defamation fraud!

  • @petrapiciacchia2456
    @petrapiciacchia2456 2 роки тому +74

    I've had one dose AstraZeneca and one dose of Pfizer. To date have not contracted Covid. I'm done getting anymore jabs. Instead I'm concentrating on losing weight (40lbs lost), low carb diet, taking supplements and exercising.

    • @ytcomms3945
      @ytcomms3945 2 роки тому +8

      Lots of Sun too and D vitamin!

    • @thedicehavespoken6234
      @thedicehavespoken6234 2 роки тому +9

      Good for you! I'm always happy to hear people are making choices for a healthier lifestyle.

    • @felixmoyoedonmi
      @felixmoyoedonmi 2 роки тому +1

      I pray it's not too late for you.

    • @ytcomms3945
      @ytcomms3945 2 роки тому +1

      @@felixmoyoedonmi definitely NOT too late!

    • @felixmoyoedonmi
      @felixmoyoedonmi 2 роки тому

      @@ytcomms3945 I pray so 🙏

  • @jacobdebernardi4385
    @jacobdebernardi4385 2 роки тому +63

    I'm one of those who didn't get tested after getting it, I'll have nothing to do with this madness.

    • @JuliusSP1
      @JuliusSP1 2 роки тому

      you didn't "get" anything. you had a common set of symptoms seen in our current modern society. western medicine is an abomination.

    • @thankmelater1254
      @thankmelater1254 2 роки тому

      They didn't get to send your DNA to the CCP then.

    • @ccl005jn
      @ccl005jn 2 роки тому +16

      Us as well. We are done with all the BS and mandates and are just going to live our life as best we can through all the madness swirling around us. I live in Canada by the way, where democracy looks an awful lot like tyranny anymore.

    • @thankmelater1254
      @thankmelater1254 2 роки тому

      @@ccl005jn Canada new tyranny law makes police get you vaxxed.

    • @thankmelater1254
      @thankmelater1254 2 роки тому +2

      trudeau already purchased your first ten shots

  • @christopherdainton4224
    @christopherdainton4224 2 роки тому +28

    Even if you don't care about COVID, it's fascinating to watch Vinay dissect the medical literature. Great channel.

  • @drmali86
    @drmali86 2 роки тому +41

    Reminder: no randomized control trial showed “huuuge” or even small reduction in hospitalization and mortality.
    Also, given that vaccine doesn’t prevent infection, how many of those who get myocarditis after infection were also vaccinated?

    • @KnightHawk1990
      @KnightHawk1990 2 роки тому

      how so? wasn't there a study showing that 99% of the people who died from Covid were unvaccinated?

    • @channel1_channel
      @channel1_channel 2 роки тому +5

      "Also, given that vaccine doesn’t prevent infection, how many of those how get myocarditis after infection were also vaccinated? " - Excellent point. Undiagnosed injury is also an issue. Pericardits another. All other injuries too.

  • @bobbellendovich6825
    @bobbellendovich6825 2 роки тому +53

    3 years in a public hospital system, despite eventually discovering a bone marrow tumor in my femur (I'm 52), not a single doctor from dozens I saw would go beyond the "pinched nerve" diagnosis of the first doctor as the cause of my leg pain.
    ALL the doctors I saw outside of that hospital system told me that the bone marrow tumor was responsible for the leg pain.

    • @deepoil89
      @deepoil89 2 роки тому +5

      Sorry to hear about those struggles Bob, I've had a similar experience of taking years to get an actual accurate diagnosis. Hell I received multiple chemos for a disease I didn't even had. Turned out, I had a plasmacytoma of the bone on my acetabulum. What type of tumor was in your femur if you don't mind my asking? Hope you are doing well now.

    • @chrisnivo
      @chrisnivo 2 роки тому +10

      Sorry to hear that I went through a similar issue back in the mid 90's in Canada.
      Diagnosed with a bulging disk and after 3 years of physio that caused more pain, not being able to function from severe pain they finally ordered a CAT scan. They discovered a broken bone in my spine and a disk in my L5 that was ruptured and up against my sciatic nerve.
      The surgeon who did the work told me I had the worst rupture he'd ever seen and couldn't believe I was walking still.
      That was a long time ago but from my experience we've gotten worse not better.

    • @hittitecharioteer
      @hittitecharioteer 2 роки тому +5

      Appalled. God Bless you 🤝☘️🇮🇪

    • @unacceptablefinnrazelle697
      @unacceptablefinnrazelle697 2 роки тому +3

      Because they read your chart first and didn't bother questioning. That's exactly what's been going on for the last 2 years...nobody brave enough to speak up...

    • @alexdevcamp
      @alexdevcamp 2 роки тому

      I fucking hate the process of getting diagnosed

  • @laurak3668
    @laurak3668 2 роки тому +85

    I was always healthy until I had 2 Moderna shots. Three months later I have stage 3 Breast Cancer and Multiple Sclerosis out of the blue.

    • @doomsdaybooty1072
      @doomsdaybooty1072 2 роки тому +23

      Oof that really sucks. Sorry to hear that

    • @ttonAb2
      @ttonAb2 2 роки тому

      You really think that the moderna shot gave you stage 3 cancer that fast and MS? The cancer couldnt have given you MS?

    • @lydiajoymcdowell-davis3390
      @lydiajoymcdowell-davis3390 2 роки тому +8

      oh my, im so sorry

    • @yengsabio5315
      @yengsabio5315 2 роки тому

      Sorry to hear this! Was it definitively confirmed that it's the vaccine that caused it?

    • @kmg501
      @kmg501 2 роки тому

      Very sorry to hear that. :-( I know that this is unlikely to make you feel better but please know that there are many people who are railing against the phony vaccines in order to save people from the suffering you are experiencing. We must stop this from harming more people, again I'm truly sorry you have been seriously hurt.

  • @Anna-yf4gt
    @Anna-yf4gt 2 роки тому +18

    They would have to collect a huge number of random people who had Covid including hospitalized and not (and those who didn’t know they had it) to determine a truer rate of myocarditis in the unvaccinated, sorted by many factors (age, co morbidities, etc). That data would be valuable.

  • @olibertosoto5470
    @olibertosoto5470 2 роки тому +26

    Scientific publication in the U.S. has crossed over into the pulp fiction genre - the real cheap and poorly thought out type.

    • @ytcomms3945
      @ytcomms3945 2 роки тому +13

      Even peer review is worthless because it is the buddy buddy system.

  • @bigstein7075
    @bigstein7075 2 роки тому +23

    Dr. Prasad's analysis is razor-sharp and clear, as always. But there are a couple of additional points worth mentioning about the flawed implications of the MMWR study. We aren't- as their analysis would suggest- comparing the myocarditis and pericarditis risks associated with the mRNA vaccines to the myocarditis and pericarditis risks associated with contracting COVID-19. We are comparing the risks to heart health due to COVID-19 among the unvaccinated who contract the virus to the risk to heart health posed by the mRNA vaccines PLUS the modified risk to heart health that these vaccinated people still experience from contracting COVID. Vaccines don't provide perfect protection, certainly not to transmission (especially in the Delta and now Omicron variants) or even to severe illness. And we are starting to learn that the transitory nature of any protection conferred isn't measured in months but, especially in the case of a fourth (booster) jab, may be measured in mere weeks. So if you do decide to assume the risk of taking the mRNA vaccines, you still have additional myocarditis and pericarditis risk associated with the illness, although there is some presumed (temporary) reduction to that risk. The MMWR study isn't just a flawed analysis of what it claims to examine, it also manages to elide some of the basic aspects of the risk-benefit analysis associated with mRNA vaccines.

  • @brendadryden356
    @brendadryden356 2 роки тому +13

    Our household of three people all had covid but only 1/3 of us had a positive "official" test. If we are even remotely typical, that means their numbers of cases are way off, and therefore their conclusions are also wrong.

  • @youtubejasonyoutubejason6962
    @youtubejasonyoutubejason6962 2 роки тому +23

    Not understanding after infection by which strain? This most recent strain that is the sniffles wrecks my heart? Or the original wet market strain? I find the idea that myocarditis risk is the same across strains is also probably stupid.

    • @omaramusa
      @omaramusa 2 роки тому +2

      that's a good point

    • @bullymaguire632
      @bullymaguire632 2 роки тому +1

      One thing to remember is that omicron is less severe because it doesn't replicate *IN THE LUNGS* as much, so I don't see how the risk of cardiac problems is lower than for other variants
      Maybe that's why the most common symptoms changed a lot when omicron came up, a lot of dizziness and aches instead of anosmia or parosmia or anything respiratory

    • @jmgmetal
      @jmgmetal 2 роки тому +4

      Wet market strain or lab leak strain?

    • @kevinyaucheekin1319
      @kevinyaucheekin1319 2 роки тому +2

      @@jmgmetal Indeterminate for now, pending more hard evidence. Its quite possible that it may be from the lab, funded by a sub grant from Ecohealth Alliance which received primary funding from the CDC. It may never be determinate as to source.

    • @carrielawooto9933
      @carrielawooto9933 2 роки тому

      It still can. I've been on long haul covid pages since around April of last year. I've noticed a real drop of new member posts since Omicron. Probably (hopefully) because fewer people are getting long haulers.

  • @julesroy2264
    @julesroy2264 2 роки тому +45

    It's also crazy to me that we are still arguing on this point, EVEN THOUGH, you'll still get COVID after getting vaccinated anyways. I mean, at some point. So you'll have the risk of myocarditis post-vaccination AND post-infection either way you slice it up lol. This paper is being pushed like "HEY, see! We told you!" (Even with the flaws you just pointed out).
    But it's not like vaccination prevents infection.. so we are doubling the risk essentially 😂

    • @saralotti7174
      @saralotti7174 2 роки тому +8

      Liability free product Injury to doctors Just creates... a New Customer🤑

    • @nathanbirch5955
      @nathanbirch5955 2 роки тому

      Exactly! This vaccine doesn't stop you catching it, so you get the risk both ways. Ummm I'll choose half the risk please.

    • @julesroy2264
      @julesroy2264 2 роки тому +3

      @Gary Singleton how this study is put out to the public without being scrutinized by every top public health official is absolutely beyond me. CNBC even picks it up and publishes an article about it to say "get the shot since the risk is higher post-infection!" I feel like I'm living in a joke world. This can't be real. How can we possibly regain trust ever again? Genuine concern.

    • @johannabarry6325
      @johannabarry6325 2 роки тому

      Yeah! I have been laughing about that too. I think they think we will buy any old rubbish and so they dont even bother to check their logic. I guess enough people do. How sad!

    • @peterhardie4151
      @peterhardie4151 2 роки тому +2

      Yep. The risk is cumulative.

  • @bobbybee2975
    @bobbybee2975 2 роки тому +31

    My initial thought is: does the jab prevent the risk of heart problems from the virus or is it just two seperate risks meaning you have the same risk from both regardless of the order you get them?

    • @danieldorn2927
      @danieldorn2927 2 роки тому +1

      The vaccine one is worse, because:
      - virus mutates to fast to effectively get the vaccine that they claim helps againsts said variant
      - you need a booster every 3 months and with each jab you have the chance to get heart problems
      - natural immunity through the virus gives longer term and wider range of immunity, studies have also shown that natural immunity helps 95% against reinfection

    • @bobbybee2975
      @bobbybee2975 2 роки тому +6

      @@danieldorn2927 I agree with all you said but I'm wondering if you get the vaccine are you still at the same risk of heart disease from the virus as you were before having the jab. So I'm trying figure out if getting the jab would mitigate any risk of heart disease from the virus, and vice versa. Because if exposure to one limits risk from the other that might be beneficial for some and if it doesn't mitigate any risk that might be a factor in what someone chooses to do too. Hope I explained it more clearly here but if not feel free to let me know where my articulating is lacking. Best regards.

    • @AlexSmith-gr4hp
      @AlexSmith-gr4hp 2 роки тому +7

      A study showed mRNA vaccination after natural infection lead to a 50% increased likelihood of myocarditis compared to no prior natural infection. I don’t know of any data regarding the reverse sequence of infection after vaccination.

    • @bobbybee2975
      @bobbybee2975 2 роки тому +4

      @@AlexSmith-gr4hp yeah that's what I suspected might be the case. Rare overall but double your rare chance at a heart problem is still serious and worthy of consideration. I'm in my early 40s so the risk was never high enough for me to consider an experimental drug but good to know anyways. What study was that? Country and names if you have them, please.

  • @sufyb6432
    @sufyb6432 2 роки тому +15

    Sounds like the CDC had a predetermined outcome for this paper. Imagine that.

    • @susanfrazer8172
      @susanfrazer8172 2 роки тому +3

      Yes just imagine!! CDC are literally unbelievable.

    • @thomashauer6804
      @thomashauer6804 2 роки тому

      I'm really grateful for Vinay..My country austria made this CDC study today's news for more pharma PR... I read the msm article and got breathing issues and a bit chest pain just from reading (it's really a big psychological psychosomatic part with extreme fearnongering isn't it) then i iooked at the study and saw the exclusions for selectiive bias.. Then Vinay made the other bias clear (only hospitalized infected) now I'm perfectly fine again haha
      MSM and social media are a weapon.. They know how and when to target for fear.. Disgusting

  • @konfluence
    @konfluence 2 роки тому

    Thank you for upholding the principles of science so rigorously. What you're doing is incredibly important, and frighteningly rare right now.

  • @Allangulon
    @Allangulon 2 роки тому +25

    My doctor won't see me in person to treat my heart disease cos I'm not vaccinated and might get sick! I wonder if my GP sees the irony?

    • @ekah1234
      @ekah1234 2 роки тому +5

      I couldn’t bring my son into the dr because he’s un vaccinated & unsafe.
      But. It was safe to prescribe meds sight unseen over the phone. Madness

    • @shortyorc121
      @shortyorc121 2 роки тому

      Dang where the heck you guys live... I have to wait 5 weeks to see my Doctor.....

    • @lynne8323
      @lynne8323 2 роки тому +1

      Just unbelievable that intelligent people think that way, ugh!!

    • @daffidkane8350
      @daffidkane8350 2 роки тому

      Is your GP vaccinated? He may infect you!

    • @Allangulon
      @Allangulon 2 роки тому

      @@daffidkane8350
      The GP is most definitely vaccinated but that offers me no protection at all it seems!
      At 55 it also seems 4 weeks protection is all I could expect from vaccination myself!

  • @jerryjanusz1410
    @jerryjanusz1410 2 роки тому +20

    Misinformation that fits the official narrative is encouraged

  • @JGoodwin
    @JGoodwin 2 роки тому +11

    @Vinay Prasad, "They need to focus on the risk group they can help".
    Have you ever done a net-net comparison of what likely would have happened if there were *NO* top-down interventions and people just decided for themselves and were not managed in anyway vs what happened?
    I think your assumption that vaccines and promotion of vaccines are a definite net good may need to be reviewed and analyzed before it's accepted as a baseline truth.
    It may be that models which show people deciding for themselves based on facts and treating the pandemic like a "bad flu" may have created the minimal net harms to society.
    Policy makers should be creating options, not taking them away.

  • @earlsquareling
    @earlsquareling 2 роки тому

    Glad we have someone as knowledgeable and objective as you to explain these studies

  • @camsonnenberg4399
    @camsonnenberg4399 2 роки тому +9

    As there is a drive to vaccinate younger people, there is a drive to remove myocarditis as a concern by distortion of the facts.

    • @hipnicity
      @hipnicity 2 роки тому +2

      Taylor Hawkins was a physically fit, 50 athletic drummer and had an enlarged heart when he died. Makes you wonder.🤨

    • @lolawhite3916
      @lolawhite3916 2 роки тому +2

      @@hipnicity My healthy 66 yo Bf has suddenly died from a heart failure a month after booster. Collapsed in the street and was dead before hitting the ground. He had NEVER had heart issues.No major issues at all.

    • @hipnicity
      @hipnicity 2 роки тому +4

      @@lolawhite3916 so sorry! I’ve lost people to cancer that returned post potion, and one to sudden onset pneumonia after being boosted. I can’t say for sure but I’d bet if the truth were told, these people would still be here.😥

  • @craigheide3573
    @craigheide3573 2 роки тому +29

    Have they ever really shown the evidence for the increased benefit of each booster or is it just words? Is it being sold on old adages of "reduced effectiveness over time of infection" rather than disease outcomes? Does a 2 dose person have a statistically greater chance of a bad outcome than a boosted person???

    • @smoupnhoize
      @smoupnhoize 2 роки тому +1

      It increases antibodies. That's the endpoint they've been looking at, at severe disease, death, or hospitalization. BUT that increase in antibody is short lived. So in other words, if you get a booster now, you might still "need one" in the fall because the antibodies wane so quickly.

    • @Fredoux01
      @Fredoux01 2 роки тому +7

      @@smoupnhoize Wrong!....T-cells and B-cells long memory is what matters, not only antibodies... Why the lies? Why?

    • @craigheide3573
      @craigheide3573 2 роки тому +2

      @@Fredoux01 thank-you👍👍

    • @professorplum2531
      @professorplum2531 2 роки тому +1

      You cant believe anything anymore. Reduced to making decisions based on personal anecdotes.

    • @smoupnhoize
      @smoupnhoize 2 роки тому +3

      @@Fredoux01 How am I wrong. Antibodies have been the endpoint of the studies. They haven't looked at hospitalization, death, or serious disease.
      We are literally saying the same thing.

  • @RobMcGrath0
    @RobMcGrath0 2 роки тому

    @Vinay Prasad MD, thank you for your work, for taking time to communicate your thoughts, for explaining problems in a methodical and logical way, and for giving voice to these issues.
    When peoples' suffering is swept away by bad actors with pathological information the medical practice is irreparably harmed.
    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: "...And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul: don't let him be proud of his progressive views, and don't let him boast that he is an academician or a peoples' artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward, it is all the same to me if I am fed and kept warm..."

  • @pdorn9475
    @pdorn9475 2 роки тому +7

    Thanks so much for explaining thieve papers and their flaws
    You are going to be instrumental in saving science and public health in this country if that is still doable
    I don’t speak for anyone other than myself but can say I’ve lost ALL belief in public health and the so called scientist in this country
    Please keep up the good work
    Respect

  • @whatwhyandwhos68
    @whatwhyandwhos68 2 роки тому +1

    So grateful for your intellectual analysis ….. I trust your analysis

  • @autumnm2075
    @autumnm2075 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for teaching how to critically look at studies

  • @brooke_ann
    @brooke_ann 2 роки тому

    I love dr. Prasad He is amazing and I wish I got to meet and talk with him. He is great !

  • @beckinfidelis3916
    @beckinfidelis3916 2 роки тому +7

    They already know from the Israeli studies the age group most affected by myocarditis, which is almost exclusively seen in Young males. The fact that they include females of all ages at all lowers the numbers of myocarditis found in vaccinated ppl, and if it rarely seems to affect men and their 40s and over, that age group should also be at least separated from the younger age group.
    Myocarditis does not always have symptoms! I have wondered how many teen boys and young adult men may have developed myocarditis, but never knew it and have no documentation! Some doctors have stated that males in this age group should have been tested after vaccination, at least after the second vaccination, monitored and blood work checking their troponin levels and levels of other markers of current heart damaging events! Elevated troponin levels will only show up for a few days. Anyone tested 2 weeks after the event which are normal troponin levels. A heart can have damaged tissue without symptoms, something that might not results in a major consequences for years! I believe there are many adolescent and young adult males who may have damage to their heart muscle right now and don't know it. Probably won't find out until they have a cardiac event in to 30 years, for example. Well they won't find out even then. They will just wonder why they're having heart problems at a relatively young age!

    • @davidjuliesmiththomas7983
      @davidjuliesmiththomas7983 2 роки тому +1

      Spot on. Furthermore, myocarditis that "resolves" may well come back to haunt you years later. In 2014 I developed a small scar on the left ventricle and did not even know I had it. 2 years later I developed re-entry VT from that scar.
      I know the scar was not there in 2013 (normal routine echo), I had 2 respiratory virus illnesses in 2014. The scar was there in 2016 and had to be a year or two old. I was a track runner at the time but I sure aint now and, the scarring has now developed into a progressive cardiomyopathy.

  • @mncyclist66
    @mncyclist66 2 роки тому +6

    Another point is that because you can still get COVID after vaccination, it isn't enough to just compare myocarditis after infection vs vaccination, since most vaccinated people will eventually get COVID. You'd need to compare the risk of myocarditis after infection & vaccination vs. the risk of just myocarditis after infection.

    • @farmersmith7057
      @farmersmith7057 2 роки тому +4

      Yep, and it also looks like they didn’t care about vaccination status when recording myocarditis from post-infection patients. If these patients were already vaccinated, how do we know their myocarditis wasn’t from their vaccinations?

    • @cheetahcub
      @cheetahcub 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly!

  • @gareththomas2091
    @gareththomas2091 2 роки тому +8

    Funny, virtually everyone I know now has had COVID at some point and not a single one had myocarditis. Virtually everyone I know is vaccinated and I know of at least two people who had heart issues.

  • @youtubejasonyoutubejason6962
    @youtubejasonyoutubejason6962 2 роки тому +3

    Visual aid is perfect representation of your first point

  • @davidpaz9389
    @davidpaz9389 2 роки тому +2

    Look up a March 25, 2022 Journal of Pediatrics article titled *Persistent Cardiac MRI Findings in a Cohort of Adolescents with post COVID-19 mRNA vaccine myopericarditis.*

  • @lauradimama9794
    @lauradimama9794 2 роки тому +7

    Thank you for your analysis. It is sad that it’s surprising when doctors and scientists actually ask questions, use clinical judgement, think critically and want to practice evidence based medicine.
    And yes we could’ve guessed the CDCs goal without even having them confirm it.

  • @sunnyla2835
    @sunnyla2835 2 роки тому

    Thank you, Dr Prasad!🙏👍❣️💟

  • @mera8785
    @mera8785 2 роки тому

    Love the fact that you are a doctor who still has integrity while so few of your colleagues can say the same.
    I also find it funny that when comparing the poked to the recovered they never mention the fact that if you go out and get poked then that’s a 100% chance of exposure to the poke’s possible bad outcomes while in Canada, where I live, they have found that in the 2+ years since the bug came out only 10% of people have come into contact with it.
    So 80+% of population risked side effects while also still having the exact same risk of infection vs those of us who didn’t get the poke so we eliminate the chance of side effects and only had a low risk to come in contact with the bug.

  • @briandelaney6354
    @briandelaney6354 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Vinay, not sure if you covered or considered vaccination technique as in aspiration prior to injecting ?
    This has been covered several times by Dr John Campbell.
    Thanks
    Brian

  • @jimshibolth329
    @jimshibolth329 2 роки тому +2

    Doc...many thanks for keeping your objectivity... integrity..and reiterating " above all DO NO HARM" Consistancy... somehow this oath seems to have been lost in the politics and covid narrative..in the meantime..KEEP THE FORCE

  • @kirkmcginty7163
    @kirkmcginty7163 2 роки тому +13

    Congratulations CDC. Keep dgging your own grave

  • @cjfletcher325
    @cjfletcher325 2 роки тому +10

    How will the CDC ever regain respect after all this

    • @michaelgonzalez619
      @michaelgonzalez619 2 роки тому

      It's amazing what you can inflict generation after generation on humans.

    • @MK-ih6wp
      @MK-ih6wp 2 роки тому

      @@michaelgonzalez619 they are dumbing down & brainwashing the younger generations at breakneck speed.
      Did you see they lowered the child development standards for kids, due to lockdowns & masks? Funny, parents were not allowed to discuss the downsides to such lockdown interventions when they were first implemented, or else we were evil granny killers.
      Children are being trained to OBEY and CONSUME without any critical thinking.. Not to question authority (no matter how nonsensical the rules are, like social distancing & masks); to submit to medical tyranny because "that's just how the world works, it's always been this way" (not true); that natural immunity is a "conspiracy theory" (motherjones article); that politicians & public health authorities know what is best for every individual & we must offer our bodies up for the "greater good" of society-- even when the intervention does nothing to reduce transmission/stop the spread. If you ask for studies to back up their public health dictates, you will be censored, ridiculed, or attacked by the online mob... in addition to losing your paycheck to support your family, unless you submit to indefinite vaccinations.

    • @michaelgonzalez619
      @michaelgonzalez619 2 роки тому

      @@MK-ih6wp John taylor Ghatto and was revered teacher who has exposed your points in detail, prussian education has unfortunately prevailed in most countries over the last century and into this one. Charlotte Iserbyt has a lot writing on the topic in great detail as well.

    • @shirleykurtz
      @shirleykurtz 2 роки тому

      They won't!

  • @bestany5517
    @bestany5517 2 роки тому +4

    Couldn’t they use the seroprevalence data that they published recently? (I thought that came from CDC.) How do these rates of myocarditis compare to the estimated total infections from the seroprevalence data?

  • @tyramasters-heinrichs921
    @tyramasters-heinrichs921 2 роки тому

    Thank you, Dr. Prasad. Thank you for doing this.
    Stay well, and take care.
    I look forward to the lawsuits.
    Sadly, I think most who do proper research now no longer trust the institutions of our culture.
    Still hopeful in Manitoba, Canada

  • @chase055
    @chase055 2 роки тому +2

    I knew this study was trash when I read it days ago... I was just waiting for Dr Prasad to explain why... 😂 Thanks doc!!

  • @everheartproductions5076
    @everheartproductions5076 2 роки тому

    Why isn't comparing myocarditis something we shouldn't be looking at? I'm so confused 0:37 pls help

  • @debstayblessed9549
    @debstayblessed9549 2 роки тому

    😂😂Thank you. 'Powers that be' don't expect some one to seriously analyze their data/studies/report s. Appreciate it much👍

  • @amarreder6241
    @amarreder6241 2 роки тому +1

    I believe you.

  • @kimfleury
    @kimfleury 2 роки тому

    Thank you for being a scientist.

  • @Nocensorshipofanykind
    @Nocensorshipofanykind 2 роки тому

    Thank you for keeping on top of this

  • @LionheartedDan
    @LionheartedDan 2 роки тому

    Thank you Dr for you presentation. It’s great to have thinking analysis instead of talk down propaganda.

  • @grainofsand4176
    @grainofsand4176 2 роки тому

    Excellent work. Thankyou

  • @hipnicity
    @hipnicity 2 роки тому +4

    Trust in the CDC no longer exists. Having to dig for the buried truth may have something to do with this.💁🏼‍♀️

  • @justcurious6415
    @justcurious6415 2 роки тому +2

    I love the “ no offence to the authors but I would be embarrassed to have written it” 😂

  • @Himothy704
    @Himothy704 2 роки тому +1

    This is quintessential double speak aka word salad by media to protect their sponsors. Great broadcast by the way 💪🏽

  • @cathryncavaney5070
    @cathryncavaney5070 2 роки тому

    Thank you for clear and thoughtful analysis.

  • @davehughes4042
    @davehughes4042 2 роки тому +1

    Never knew anyone with myocarditis or strokes in the year before the jxb . Now i know 4 people with strokes and 2 people who have died suddenly with heart attacks.

  • @justinreilly1
    @justinreilly1 2 роки тому +1

    Prasad keeps it real. Many researchers and clinicians know CDC is a joke. Prof. Prasad’s unafraid to actually say it. Bravo! A true public health advocate!

  • @3catmom844
    @3catmom844 2 роки тому +6

    Keep up the good work Dr. Prasad! Very good analysis of yet another flawed study from CDC. Is it any wonder that the people in healthcare don't trust CDC anymore?

  • @elenabob4953
    @elenabob4953 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this analysis.

  • @mariazibell8229
    @mariazibell8229 2 роки тому

    I was waiting for your take on this one...

  • @kado2656
    @kado2656 2 роки тому +45

    Love your opinions, but I don't understand why you think the vaccine is still a good idea for a healthy individual aged up to 40 or 50? Immunocompromised and elderly - sure, but a healthy individual you still think makes sense? Millions have had COVID with no issues and breakthrough cases are extremely common. Help me understand your perspective

    • @saralotti7174
      @saralotti7174 2 роки тому +7

      Customer recruiting for the medical marketplace MLMs comes in as many forms and shapes as the pills they prescribe😉🙈🙉🙊

    • @lmlmlmlm7627
      @lmlmlmlm7627 2 роки тому +12

      Yes. I’m surprised by his take too.

    • @Gengh13
      @Gengh13 2 роки тому +11

      I suppose that's the only way to avoid being shunned from the "medical" community.

    • @Eyes0penNoFear
      @Eyes0penNoFear 2 роки тому +1

      It's because he's part of the controlled opposition. I unsubbed yesterday. This video showed up in my feed and I was intrigued by the study, and hoped that maybe this video would change my mind about him being a big pharma shill. Sadly, within the first minute he's talking about vax vax VAX!! even though the new Pfizer data dump shows natural immunity is at least as good as the vaccine.

    • @ryanw6626
      @ryanw6626 2 роки тому +12

      I've wondered the same for a long time. I appreciate Vinay's take on all these issues, but his stance to just get the jab puts a sour taste in my mouth. I hear it can taste metallic....

  • @robotluvr12
    @robotluvr12 2 роки тому +2

    "There are a number of problems with this paper." This is the name of my new drinking game for watching Vinay's UA-cams.

  • @carriesweeney6413
    @carriesweeney6413 2 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @booch326
    @booch326 2 роки тому

    "How many doses do you benefit from?" Is that REALLY the RELEVANT question???(0:45)

  • @ctoaun23
    @ctoaun23 2 роки тому

    Thanks for your work!

  • @sethjensen2291
    @sethjensen2291 2 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @CarnivoreAnesthetist
    @CarnivoreAnesthetist 2 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @tonirodriguez6649
    @tonirodriguez6649 2 роки тому

    65+ healthy female. I remained in a “wait & see” mode following my own intuition. I had very little outside contact during the spread of Delta while getting lots of Vitamin D daily through walks & individual outdoor activity, supplements & eating healthy.
    Recently recovered from a mild case of Omicron.
    One size fits all is unreasonable and unnecessary.

  • @alfredeinstein8801
    @alfredeinstein8801 2 роки тому +1

    Youre correct. The bottom line is the scientific method ie procedures, documentation & gathering of data results. Its known but why these were not done? The approched in the covid 19 pandemic all of a sudden & surprisingly the whole world in the field of medicine became primitive? Why?

  • @danabella6540
    @danabella6540 2 роки тому

    Keep posting bro

  • @alfrancis8
    @alfrancis8 2 роки тому +5

    Any video on the latest Pffizer data dump?

    • @MK-ih6wp
      @MK-ih6wp 2 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't hold your breath on that.. I love VP, but that's not a topic he is likely to touch.

    • @alfrancis8
      @alfrancis8 2 роки тому

      @@MK-ih6wp doesn't seem like something out of his realm.... he loves analyzing data.

  • @pathacker4963
    @pathacker4963 Рік тому +1

    Have we outlawed gain of function research yet?

  • @blittleing
    @blittleing 2 роки тому

    Excellent perspective

  • @ShimmyMD
    @ShimmyMD 2 роки тому

    Very well put.

  • @lolawhite3916
    @lolawhite3916 2 роки тому +1

    There should be more groups: at my work there are people who got natural infection, then two vaccines then covid again then booster and flu shot. Now some of them cant pass a stress test and make appointments with cardiologists. How to determine what caused the heart problems, vaccines , booster, first covid or the second?

  • @choyMM
    @choyMM 2 роки тому +3

    I hope an analysis of India is made. They've pretty much kicked covid to the curb. They conquered delta with a low vaccination rate (10% when the delta wave started going down) and they haven't experienced huge succeeding waves like other highly vaccinated countries. Is it because they make their own vaccines and had gotten it right? They don't do boosters either. And no mRNA.

  • @stringX90
    @stringX90 2 роки тому

    Great insight per usual

  • @timscannell1268
    @timscannell1268 2 роки тому

    Great job

  • @nikk3251
    @nikk3251 2 роки тому

    I like your visual Vinay but TBH you explained it well and even a non-scientific viewer such as myself could understand!

  • @robyn3349
    @robyn3349 2 роки тому +9

    CDC lacks problem solving skills. :(

    • @shootingbricks8554
      @shootingbricks8554 2 роки тому +1

      And reading skills. Flawed studies still make it to the CDC.

    • @sufyb6432
      @sufyb6432 2 роки тому +1

      That's an understatement!

  • @ytcomms3945
    @ytcomms3945 2 роки тому

    Do they then add up or do they multiply each other in hybrid cases that is when jab follows infection or the other way around?

  • @suzan2336
    @suzan2336 2 роки тому +2

    Did they break down a category for those who had vax but also contracted covid? What do u assign the myocarditis to...?

    • @steamcarecc
      @steamcarecc 2 роки тому +1

      Susan I read the study and could not find any information about the COVID groups vaccination status. I have been searching for answers and thought this video would end my search. Until I find otherwise I am uncertain that the COVID group were all unvaccinated. Entirely possible the with COVID myocarditis group had 3 doses??

    • @suzan2336
      @suzan2336 2 роки тому

      @@steamcarecc that is a possibility if they do not state otherwise... ty for info

  • @2hotscottpro
    @2hotscottpro 2 роки тому +2

    How do you treat myocarditis ?

    • @alireid5874
      @alireid5874 2 роки тому +2

      Officially, you don't. I would try Serrapeptase, cayenne, motherwort. And eat heart regularly.

    • @2hotscottpro
      @2hotscottpro 2 роки тому

      @@alireid5874 Thanks that’s what I was wondering about.

    • @StephyGrowsWeed
      @StephyGrowsWeed 2 роки тому +1

      usually once the virus was fought by the immune system (if the myocarditis was caused by that) the myocarditis should at least „stop“ ….. if heartbeat irregularities are present ACE-meds, Betablocker, Diuretics are given. Sometimes steroids etc are needed. Also depends on the cause of the myocarditisy Usually it’s just rest, wait and see and hope that only minor damage was caused.
      Pericarditis on the other hand is treated with Ibuprofen and Colchicine (as far as i know)

  • @crocholiday
    @crocholiday 2 роки тому +6

    I would love to hear your take on the Pfizer documents that have been released.

  • @nowaiting2072
    @nowaiting2072 2 роки тому

    When I heard this headline, I thought, "mmmm- I'll wait and see what Dr Prasad says."

  • @ye333
    @ye333 2 роки тому

    Does it make sense to compare danger of dying on the road vs in a driving school?

  • @teri-rossicyda2874
    @teri-rossicyda2874 2 роки тому

    Possibly, another relevant Question, was the Guidance for Administration by the WHO and the CDC implicated in the " Complications " / Adverse Effects by Non Aspiration prior to injection ? Would a Scientific Body , or Should a Scientific assess Adverse Outcomes and Alter Strategies to possibly Reduce Risk Factors ?

    • @teri-rossicyda2874
      @teri-rossicyda2874 2 роки тому

      not attempting to be divisive, just suggesting we act in an intelligent manor to provide the Safest Care to the Public We Serve

  • @damnyankeesdaughter5427
    @damnyankeesdaughter5427 2 роки тому

    I had an experience that might explain…… my reaction to a flu shot was put into a computer as “egg allergy “. I’m not allergic to egg. But there was no box to check in the computer program. Old medical files were hand written. I had the same problem with life alert and medical apps.

  • @vacman3136
    @vacman3136 2 роки тому +1

    Please do a vid even a short one on the real difference between the vaxed and unvaxed with asymptomatic transmission

  • @TB-nz4kf
    @TB-nz4kf 2 роки тому

    Go get them!

  • @JamesSCavenaugh
    @JamesSCavenaugh 2 роки тому

    2:30 "We can just focus on the people who have had one and two doses, and the group that has had infection." I haven't read the paper, but the tacit assumption from what you said seems to be that these are mutually exclusive groups. Of course, they are not; lots of people have had infection and immunization.

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 2 роки тому +6

    *in Australia they no longer say "fully vaccinated" they say "currently up to date".* tho most places are lifting passports and mandates, bc thr is a federal election around easter. (*but nothing is changing for schools; hospitals ect: just as long as it is all "noble" pushing the sales of these products on healthy young people, forever. who also get covid, and that takes the sfx blame). fine entry as always. -JC

    • @choyMM
      @choyMM 2 роки тому

      Australia is trying to compete with Canada for the most oppressive covid rules. Canada is largely reopened now except unvaxed citizens still can't go on a plane or train even for domestic travel. Even New Zealand has announced a complete lifting of restrictions by October.

    • @davidjuliesmiththomas7983
      @davidjuliesmiththomas7983 2 роки тому

      Yeah, the situation is bad in Australia. My wife lost her teaching job for being unvaxxed. She then got covid and recovered after a few days. They will allow her back for 4 months only because they say her immunity will only last 4 months whereas double jab immunity is forever. Further, if she returns, she has to wear a mask (others don't) and she can't use the staff toilets nor be in the staff room with vaxxed teachers.
      Only an idiot would make up such rules.

    • @choyMM
      @choyMM 2 роки тому

      @@davidjuliesmiththomas7983 and that's contrary to all the scientific evidence. There's a doctor who guested over with Dr. John Campbell who is doing data analysis on natural immunity and he said so far he can conclusively say natural immunity lasts 13 months. And that is only because his days goes back 13 months. So he'll continue looking at it and see how far it goes.
      Actually, doesn't the double vax has a 6-9 month expiry too? Then they need to booster?

  • @gardenvariety-
    @gardenvariety- 2 роки тому +4

    Really? The CDC has a problem with the denominator?

  • @laurak3668
    @laurak3668 2 роки тому +10

    I was always healthy until I had 2 Moderna shots. Three months later I have stage 3 Breast Cancer and Multiple Sclerosis out of the blue. I forgot to include that I had a Mammogram and Ultrasound just 6 months prior that was clear. I think the Moderna shots damaged my immune system,

    • @ytcomms3945
      @ytcomms3945 2 роки тому

      Unfortunately that is possible. Get tested again though.
      Perhaps enlarged lymph nodes got mistaken for breast cancer.
      Stanford Uni showed that the artificial mRNA could be found in lymph nodes even after 60 days after Pfizer shots and Moderna has more than 3 times the mRNA what Pfizer has.

    • @trinitytwo14992
      @trinitytwo14992 2 роки тому +1

      Laura K, I am so sorry for your illness. Yes this is far too much to call it a coincidence.
      I have over come a critical illness too, and not through the medical system.
      Hatha Yoga, cleansing techniques, pranyama, meditation, eat onlly real food, no sugar, alcohol, PRAY PRAY PRAY.
      all the best to you
      K

  • @johnfenwick4581
    @johnfenwick4581 2 роки тому +6

    Just a thought...It appears to me that myocardits is not caused by the vaccine or by covid. It seems that it is caused by inflamation which caused by the spike protene. So by my count I have had covid twice, and the vaccine once...but I have had three doses of spike protene (and have had inflamation issues since). So if you have had Delta, three shots and omnicron, that's 5 doses of spike protene in total. We should not think it is the vaccine versus covid, as the effect of the spike protene seems to be accumulative and that the vaccine does not stop infection. Why is this not considered?