Reckless great lakes freighter nearly causes a do it yourself shipwreck

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  • Опубліковано 7 жов 2021
  • This is a firsthand look at how to almost end up shipwrecked. This is a how to lesson in coming too close to ending up in the frigid waters of Lake Erie in December of 1992. Here the reckless captain of a 767 foot long Great Lakes ore freighter sets a collision course with another laker and it is all caught on video. The captain of this lakeboat nearly created a do it yourself shipwreck. Details if the entire story are in my book "Shipwrecks and Rescues" www.authorwes.com/product-pag... This video has been edited from the original

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  • @melanieshub
    @melanieshub 2 роки тому +83

    My dad was captain of the Callaway in 1981, her last year as a straight decker before being converted to self unloader during winter layup that year, along with her sisters, the Arthur M Anderson and Phillip R Clarke. It was also the last boat I was aboard, having grown up aboard USS boats. It's easy to see that the owners of the fleet now only care about money. I don't know of any captain under US Steel ownership that would take risks like this. It wasn't always that way. I remember when dad was first mate, although I'm not sure which boat at the time. The captain was Bob Phillips, and I was about 8 years old. We were downbound and just locked through the Soo and it was Canadian Independence day. Bob stopped the boat and reported engine trouble, although there was none. He stopped the boat just so I could watch the fireworks.

  • @stacymirba1433
    @stacymirba1433 2 роки тому +26

    Fascinating footage and when you consider this was 30 years ago before everybody had video on their phone it makes it even more amazing.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +10

      That camcorder was state of the art for non-professionals in its day too.

  • @michaelgarrity6090
    @michaelgarrity6090 2 роки тому +54

    When I was in the Coast Guard, we considered any other ship being with a mile of us to be too close unless we were doing an unrep with that ship. This was definitely a close call. You have to wonder what that other ship's captain was thinking.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +26

      He was thinking only of beating us to the fuel dock.

    • @edwardpapak4234
      @edwardpapak4234 2 роки тому +7

      out of my 10 years on the lakes working for csl I have never seen anybody or anything reckless happening except for the American Spirit grounding in Duluth

    • @howardgroover1343
      @howardgroover1343 2 роки тому +5

      @@authorwes This must have been a scary thrill for you. Was there any communication between the two ships? I'm glad this popped up, I'm subscribed and like your story. Thanks

    • @thomassteenburg7220
      @thomassteenburg7220 2 роки тому +4

      would have been serious repercussions if they had collided--VET USN/USCG

  • @jeffrey9882
    @jeffrey9882 2 роки тому +16

    With the shallow point and the rocks, he was lucky he didnt tear the ship in half.

  • @roderickcampbell2105
    @roderickcampbell2105 2 роки тому +42

    "Too close for comfort" is one of those classic understatements. And I did not expect to hear "Venturi Effect". Fluid dynamics. A field that I always struggled with. Thanks Wes. You'll be getting a couple of book orders from my son or me soon.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +9

      Hey, I have a degree in Aeronautical Science... I should have a Venturi tattoo.

    • @michaelbujaki2462
      @michaelbujaki2462 2 роки тому +5

      I've felt the Venturi effect when truckers would pass me. I was limited to 60mph, so everybody wanted to pass. Some of them passed so close that I could feel the trailers being sucked together. After feeling that a couple of times, I would just tap on the brakes when somebody wanted to pass, just to get them off of my side faster.

    • @eltoro6688
      @eltoro6688 2 роки тому +5

      @@authorwes , In NASCAR Racing we call the "Venturi Effect" the "Side Draft", We also call the Maneuver the Cap'n on the Cason pulled a "CRAZY IVAN".

    • @roderickcampbell2105
      @roderickcampbell2105 2 роки тому +1

      @@eltoro6688 Thanks ElToro66. I've heard side draft a thousand times or more. Didn't know it was Venturi. There are a few crazy Ivans out there alright.

    • @squigglyline2813
      @squigglyline2813 2 роки тому +5

      Close enough to throw some tomatoes at him for acting stupid!!

  • @creatrixZBD
    @creatrixZBD 2 роки тому +15

    I just love the sheer volume of maritime/ship/boat enthusiasts/professionals etc that share their interest and knowledge via this platform. I am always discovering new people/channels who bring their unique character and areas of special interest to the genre, and the incredible amount of work and energy they out into running their channels is both admirable and enviable. I have leaned so much and gained such an appreciation for both the content creators and the maritime operating environment, and I am very grateful to have such an excellent and ongoing resource body for my layman’s curiosity.
    Thank you 🙏🏽

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      Glad you're enjoying it!

  • @deanwoolston4794
    @deanwoolston4794 2 роки тому +23

    This incident could have just as easily been another tragedy, on one of the Great Lakes. And just to save some money, many lives could have been senselessly,lost.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +4

      But at least I'd have had it all on tape... if I'd have survived.

  • @shanepatrick4534
    @shanepatrick4534 2 роки тому +72

    Bad drivers seem to exist everywhere. Two ships of that size will be pulled by the low pressure area on the sides of the vessel right into each other. What a bad move by that fellow.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +14

      Especially when you see it in person.

    • @tc1uscg65
      @tc1uscg65 6 місяців тому +1

      You know how I could tell this was near Detroit? No turn signal.

  • @imadequate3376
    @imadequate3376 2 роки тому +6

    Your model ships are GORGEOUS!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +3

      They keep me sane.

    • @Cora404
      @Cora404 Місяць тому

      very nice models they from kit or built from scratch?

    • @imadequate3376
      @imadequate3376 Місяць тому

      @authorwes I've been trying to play Warhammer...key word trying.
      Too much fun assembling and actually painting. I've gone back and stripped a few of my old models from my childhood and redid them knowing now about shades and contrast paints they look presentable 😂

  • @phyzyks
    @phyzyks 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for the reupload, its a shame the original is gone

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +4

      I had to make a minor edit and the only way to do that is to delete the original. You won't even notice the change but it was truly needed.

    • @Redwingster
      @Redwingster 2 роки тому +2

      @@authorwes I KNEW I had seen a video about this before! Thanks for that clarification so I don't doubt my memory any more than I already do! The urge to fire torpedos at that knucklehead must have been powerful.

  • @captainhml3868
    @captainhml3868 2 роки тому +7

    Still a great video! Unbelievable the recklessness of that jerk.

  • @tuxedotservo
    @tuxedotservo 2 роки тому +2

    If only the other ship had a "How's my Driving?" sticker on the stern.
    Such a missed opportunity for universal irony.

  • @michaellippmann4474
    @michaellippmann4474 2 роки тому +30

    Wow....that was pretty amazing! Unbelievable how stupid the other Skipper was!
    Truly a lack of professionalism by that guy!
    Great Video and Thank you!
    Mike 🇨🇦🍁

  • @ellesmerewildwood4858
    @ellesmerewildwood4858 2 роки тому +24

    Well of course he got away with it, most likely this behavior is encouraged by the ship's owners. I worked on a busy international airport tarmac for 30 years and while the rules for drivers on the airport apron are stringent, authorities would turn a blind eye to poor driver behavior as long as schedules were met.
    That is until there was ever an incident and arses would get kicked and heads would roll without mercy.
    And at a busy international airport, you can't pick your nose without being on some camera somewhere.
    In this situation, if there had been an incident involving injury, loss of life or loss of vessel, THEN heads would roll and there would be crying and gnashing of teeth. As always, only after an event does action get taken.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +6

      As a former airline captain I can personally say... YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!

    • @detachedinsight8651
      @detachedinsight8651 Рік тому

      @@authorwes I think that is a feature of many lines of business. A lot of people will turn a blind eye as long as "the ball keeps rolling and the gears keep turning". I don't like that, but that is still more understandable than those who turn a blind eye to violations just so they will have less work to do.
      I guess that was a long-winded way of saying: "I find greed to be more understandable reason to take risks than laziness"

    • @tc1uscg65
      @tc1uscg65 6 місяців тому

      Here's hoping someone from the Marine Safety Office or MIO reads this for future reference. Wanna pee off the "company"? Have the MIO go onboard during fueling, shut it down and do a white glove inspection before fueling is allowed to continue, delaying their departure by hours, maybe a day. Wanna see the phone l ight up in the Operation Center? Just make sure you turn your phone off while doing said boarding. ;-)

  • @lynlewis8606
    @lynlewis8606 2 роки тому +4

    J.L. Mauthe: Cason stop were sisters
    Cason J Callaway: I have no sister

  • @rockofagesusa7942
    @rockofagesusa7942 2 роки тому +22

    Pretty reckless indeed, those big ships don’t have brakes, hundreds of thousands of tons and a collision of just a few nots can be a catastrophic. He was desperate enough to cross the shallows, that’s just crazy ! I’ve always been interested in the Edmond Fitzgerald ,although there’s been a lot of disasters on the Great Lakes I was born the same year it went to the bottom

    • @jerryfrederick6610
      @jerryfrederick6610 2 роки тому +3

      Check out "November Bells" by Kurt Puffpaff the song contains actual audio transmissions from the Coast Guard at St.Ignace the night "The Fitz" went down.
      Probably the first official acknowledgement the ship was in peril.

  • @pitbull2743
    @pitbull2743 2 роки тому +12

    Should have been a review of the captain and an explanation as to why he would put his crew and others in such a dangerous situation. I would love to hear his reasoning behind such behavior.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +5

      Just to save 4 hours... that's pretty much it.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 2 роки тому +3

      @@authorwes Probably the reason. Money makes everyone out there do strange, unusual and weird things. Yes, he obviously has a load to deliver, however at what price? His ship, his crew his job being the ships master? As stated, best always to avoid other seafaring vessels at any cost, never to go bear them or approach them and in this case wouldn't it be best to shut the engines to quarter speed until both vessels have safely passed far from each other? Would have been much better to take her further out at sea once the other vessel passed by approprately, once both are safely far away from each other, then resume course and order the engine room to then go full speed ahead.

  • @doberman1ism
    @doberman1ism 3 місяці тому +1

    I grew up on the shore of Lake Erie, Ohio near the Fairport Harbor lighthouse and Coast Guard Station. The lake boats always intrigued me. I would watch them arriving into Fairport Harbor fully loaded low in the water and completely empty floating high on the lake. In the upper peninsula of Michigan I remember a Russian vessel sailing through the Portage River underneath the Houghton Hancock lift bridge from Lake Superior. Off the coast of Newport Rhode Island I would watch automobiles being transported on the ocean heading for Providence, Rhode Island. Several of Aristotle Onassis' ships were docked off of Rhode Island.
    I was a guest on board two Navy Destroyers. One on the Pacific Ocean off of San Diego and the other on the Atlantic ocean off of Newport Rhode Island. These were called Dependent Cruises. 🚢 I miss those days.

  • @njresrie
    @njresrie 2 роки тому +4

    That was difficult to watch, much less how it must have been in real-time. Glad you had a camera. Will check the books, thanks for the charts, etc. for context!

  • @timmclaughlin5033
    @timmclaughlin5033 2 роки тому +2

    @4:51 mark my gut tightened up and I was bracing for impact, awesome footage.
    I grew up on the straits near CHEBOYGAN and loved sitting on the beach with binoculars watching the boats go thru the south passage....

  • @mcspikes1
    @mcspikes1 2 роки тому +16

    Was there no communication between the two vessels? I would think the radio waves would have been filled with expletives and WTF ‘s. I’m also amazed that no action was taken against the Calloway.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +6

      If you watch my "Trip 29" video it has the actual radio communication between the two captains in real time... it's not what most folks would expect.

  • @nickphillips1721
    @nickphillips1721 2 роки тому +66

    I wonder what would happen when the crews of two ships, in instances like this, end up in the same bar or dock ? Any stories about that ? Liked and subscribed, I live north of the blue bridges and watching the big ships is a local hobby.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +32

      No problems- they're really easy going folks. This was treated like someone cutting you off on the freeway.

    • @lesmawson7298
      @lesmawson7298 2 роки тому +15

      @@authorwes did you flip him the “bird?”🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @nascarfan88ta
      @nascarfan88ta 2 роки тому +3

      Sometimes theres a "WTF were you doing back there"

    • @L3GHO5T
      @L3GHO5T 2 роки тому +4

      Dunno about the states but being on the same bodies of water there most likely cut from the same cloth, so I’d say it would be a 50/50 for a good old fashioned bench brawl 🤣

    • @robertjaent6087
      @robertjaent6087 2 роки тому +9

      @@authorwes these days you cut certain people off on freeway and they start shooting at you!. Other captain should have been reported to whatever governing board controls these ships (if there even is a control board)

  • @donallan6396
    @donallan6396 26 днів тому

    Well it wasn't exactly a car chase scene from Bullett but for those on board it must have been alarming. Interesting video.

  • @B.A.S.Drydock
    @B.A.S.Drydock 2 роки тому +14

    I had watched the full video before. A question I had then and still do is, what if anything happened the that crazy captain? Did he get in trouble?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +15

      No action was taken. However a copy of the tape was sent to the Mauthe's owners who said they were going to hang onto it until the next time the Callaway's owners complained about one of their boats.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 2 роки тому +4

      @@authorwes Unbelievable! Totally UNBELIEVEABLE!

  • @michellep1965
    @michellep1965 2 роки тому +2

    Enjoyed this video even if my jaw did hang down!! UNBELIEVABLE that there were no consequences??!! And for what? To be first at the gas pump? To save $6000? Versus how many lives in jeopardy? I’m stunned to read nothing was done to the aggressive captain. Absolutely incredible. Your video was great and the comments were enjoyable. Joe Hazelwood behavior indeed. I’m thankful no one was injured over his foolishness.

  • @michaelh1621
    @michaelh1621 2 роки тому

    Great footage….thanks

  • @craigcook1571
    @craigcook1571 28 днів тому

    I would refuse to sail under that captain again

  • @leehanna4929
    @leehanna4929 2 роки тому +14

    I remember an under way refueling back in my Navy days. I don’t think we were that close to the other ship!

  • @larry648
    @larry648 2 роки тому +5

    That’s nuts! I have lived near and boated the St. Clair River and the Flats area my whole life ( except when I was in the service). I remember the Smith Avery collision. We made a family trip up to see it in PoHo. Did the USS Captain receive any discipline for this?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +5

      Nope- it was treated like someone cutting you off on the interstate.

  • @wrotedog
    @wrotedog 9 місяців тому +1

    He saw a green running light on your starboard side. Thought he had right of way

  • @goodbonezz1289
    @goodbonezz1289 2 роки тому +2

    Since the Calloway was on the Mauthe’s starboard, did they not have the right of way?

  • @jamesthompson8008
    @jamesthompson8008 2 роки тому +6

    I remember the original video & am still amazed at the lack of concern for other vessels/safety. Yet after reading your latest book, it pales to the utter act of stupidity by the captain of the Henry B Smith.
    Still I'd bet this kinda thing happens a helluva lot more than we know given the dynamics of business in shipping, not that it makes it any better. Knowing the history of past events the Fitzgerald went thru long before sinking is another indicator.
    I wonder what kind of melee it was way back with so many different vessels in the trade.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +2

      In the early days it was insane. In the 1800s collisions of one sort or another were a daily thing.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 2 роки тому +4

      @@authorwes With the technology now at hand which is much more sophisticated than ever before, no excuse for any of this behavior from any seafaring vessels ships master. Common courtesy rules both life on dry land along with the seas, no matter whare you are, what your doing upon this earth.

  • @Peter-976
    @Peter-976 2 роки тому +4

    Now if that was me, being a hothead, I would have taken a tender over to the Calloway and beat the shit out of that captain while he was refueling. I know I would then be arrested but at least that captain would never, ever, fuck with me again.

  • @hankschrader149
    @hankschrader149 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video and story Wes! I can't believe the risk he took?! Wow! Maybe he was a little Joe Hazelwood-ish? 🤔

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      I couldn't believe how matter-of-fact and cool our crew remained.

  • @imxploring
    @imxploring 2 роки тому +3

    Any CYA radio transmissions by the ship you were on advising the other ship that they were operating outside the channel and on a collision course?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +3

      See my video "Trip 29" and the unedited radio exchange between the two captains is on there... it didn't go like you'd expect.

  • @thescotishtwins9106
    @thescotishtwins9106 2 роки тому

    WOW! you got you're self a new subscriber!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      Welcome aboard! Thank you!!

    • @thescotishtwins9106
      @thescotishtwins9106 2 роки тому

      @@authorwes No problem i have been on the lakes boat loads of times

  • @darthdevious
    @darthdevious 2 роки тому

    That is crazy, right here in the Maumee Bay heading into the Detroit river! I live just outside of Toledo.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      Toledo has done SO much with their waterfront area, you should be quite proud.

  • @mileagemaker9925
    @mileagemaker9925 2 роки тому +3

    I thought road rage only happens on land. That captain should be grounded for doing something that foolish and putting both ships and crews in such danger.! I'm a new subscriber and really enjoy your videos ! 👍👍

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for subscribing! It was a pretty strange setting for my first day out there, but the crew pretty much shrugged it off. Like being cut off on the highway.

  • @danroose693
    @danroose693 2 роки тому +2

    Just a little FYI; No lake boat could cut across that shoaling, after draft probably almost 20’ or more lightship.
    The Calloway entered east outer channel just below Light 10 where it’s 24’ deep or so as seen in the background of the video as was standard back in the day, rather than heading straight for light 1E.
    Also That channel is 1200’ wide and those boats are 74’ wide or less, not uncommon to have three wide in that channel, one up and two down or two up and one down (the loaner taking the middle of the channel).
    Far more dangerous at the turn for Bluewater Bridge when they used to have two way traffic.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      The "Light 10" error is mine- I had scribbled it wrong in my notes that morning. When the mate ran his pen across the chart, he put it across those shallows and said casually "...he's cuttin' here, the shallows..." so that's the way I noted it. Thanks for your input.

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads1982 3 місяці тому

    Me, personally, I have lived in California my whole Life, and have personally never seen the Great Lakes. Although, I really do like the Stories and ships of the Lakes.

  • @johnpierce1251
    @johnpierce1251 Рік тому

    I subbed cause I’m hooked on Great Lakes shipping

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Рік тому

      Get your fixes here... it doesn't cost anything.

  • @rtrThanos
    @rtrThanos 2 роки тому +1

    As a fan of aviation that is scared to death of anything naval, I will never cease to be amazed that there isn’t naval traffic control similar to air traffic control. If these were two cargo planes someone would be losing their pilot’s license for months at a minimum, having their license revoked and face fines at the medium, or go to prison at the maximum…unless they died after causing a collision.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      Once you are in the Detroit River and St. Clair River system, Sarnia Traffic control acts like ATC. Same goes for the St. Marys River and Soo locks- there Soo Control works much like ATC and the lock master works like approach control by doing sequencing. On the open lake, however, the Captains rule all. The Coast Guard is much like FAA... if no metal was bent and no blood was spilled, they really could care less.

  • @TheFrogballz
    @TheFrogballz Рік тому

    Lol...hahaha..Thats the game..Got to uncles that where captains Mike Gapczynski an Al Gapczynski. My grandfather Art sailed the great lakes for 47 years. Great video 👍

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Рік тому +1

      Yep- who can make the fuel dock first.

  • @canabox7112
    @canabox7112 2 роки тому

    I was told the crew of the Fitz were all drunks. Especially the captain. Likes and subbed btw

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      You were told completely wrong. Booze is very expressly forbidden aboard ship and a crewman under the influence will lose his or her job. It's been that way since the 1950s.

  • @JavierBonilla78
    @JavierBonilla78 2 роки тому

    This is a remarkable video Mr. Oleszewski. If may I ask you a question inside the bridge sounds too quite is it like that or you edited the sound?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      No editing- it was quiet, like a poker game. Those guys are true professionals. If you watch the whole video (my "Trip 29" video) you'll hear the un-edited radio exchange between the captains... it's not what you'd expect.

    • @JavierBonilla78
      @JavierBonilla78 2 роки тому

      @@authorwes Hi there again! Thank you for answering my question, what I meant was that in the video I didn't hear loud engine or ship sounds. We have to agree that this particular crew and their captain are professionals or even veterans in the business.

  • @FixAndForget
    @FixAndForget 2 роки тому +3

    Wow very close call, certainly reckless action involved. I would add that although one vessel certainly seems to be the "aggressor" in this situation, they were showing your vessel their red sidelight. I would also add your vessel did not take any action to avoid the situation such as changing course or speed, regardless of who would get to the fuel dock first. If a collision had occurred, both vessels would in some way share the damages/fault in court.
    Anyway just the worthless opinion of a deep sea sailor. I spent a summer training on the lakes years ago and have a huge admiration for lakes sailors ship handling abilities. Thanks for sharing this excellent footage with us. Cheers!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +2

      The Mauthe could not have altered course, she was established in the channel.

    • @FixAndForget
      @FixAndForget 2 роки тому +2

      @@authorwes and speed?

    • @garywolfe5906
      @garywolfe5906 2 роки тому

      0

    • @racrx7
      @racrx7 2 роки тому

      The Mauthe was in the channel. Where did you want it to go?

    • @FixAndForget
      @FixAndForget 2 роки тому

      @@racrx7 possibly altered speed to increase CPA

  • @kenofken9458
    @kenofken9458 Рік тому

    They need to bring back the old British Navy tradition of flogging around the fleet for that kind of action!

  • @benjaminallen2370
    @benjaminallen2370 Рік тому

    Amazing video. Such negligent (illegal?) operation on the part of the Callaway; hopefully both caps were on the radio, and the Callaway's actions were reported.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Рік тому

      For the conversation between captains see my video: ua-cam.com/video/ennHEa1mVmM/v-deo.html

  • @NickFortier
    @NickFortier 2 роки тому

    Alright I subbed :) pretty cool models!

  • @justingeisenhoff441
    @justingeisenhoff441 2 роки тому

    I think you might have the Callaway's course a little off, I doubt they drove over that shoal. It looks more like they rounded detroit river light "10" to meet you. The detroit river lighthouse would have been to your port side shortly after. R "16" is a buoy

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      You are correct, I copied it wrong in my notes when I was aboard and then all these years later used those same notes to make the video. I correct it in my "Trip 29" video, where I also have the actual marine radio exchange between the two captains... which doesn't go the way most folks expect.

  • @cookiesmith8545
    @cookiesmith8545 2 роки тому

    Amazing

  • @TheReal_Faxzy
    @TheReal_Faxzy 2 роки тому +1

    I love Great Lake ship i sub i like your video and that captain of the Callaway was very reckless maybe next time he needs to map it out

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @TheReal_Faxzy
      @TheReal_Faxzy 2 роки тому

      @@authorwes no problem keep the good work up

  • @andrewk2996
    @andrewk2996 2 роки тому +1

    Was the other Captain reprimanded do you know? Im curious to know if there were charges brought and great video! Cheers

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      None- it was considered no worse than being cut off on the expressway.

    • @andrewk2996
      @andrewk2996 2 роки тому

      @@authorwes wow that doesn't add up at all even when you think he sailed over the rocky area. Thanks for letting me know

  • @ronrompen7334
    @ronrompen7334 Рік тому

    I've seen that happen a few times during my time on the lakes. Yes, it is nice to get to the dock first, but NEVER at the risk of your ship or another ship.

  • @mattberg916
    @mattberg916 2 роки тому

    That's like some dirt track racing on Saturday night. I wonder if the crew on your boat would have backed down without the you being witness.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      Oh yes- the captain of the Mauthe was pretty much ignoring me and my camera at the time. Afterward he asked for a copy of that tape... which he got and then FedEx'ed it to his company HQ.

  • @willmont8258
    @willmont8258 2 роки тому

    Is the depth chart in feet or fathoms?

  • @mcgoo721
    @mcgoo721 3 місяці тому +1

    Is there a maritime equivalent to giving the guy a number to call like in aviation?

  • @jiggsj5473
    @jiggsj5473 4 місяці тому

    The Captain of this ship should have been relieved of duty immediately. Absolutely no excuse for this dangerous operating this vessel.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  4 місяці тому

      At the time that's what I thought- the crew of the MAUTHE, however, just brushed it off like it was no big deal at all

  • @gayprepperz6862
    @gayprepperz6862 2 роки тому +1

    I'm curious - was this guy reported for his recklessness? If they want to blow off the fact that he endangered another ship, what about cutting across the "shallows''?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      Nope- the crew just treated it like someone cutting them off on the freeway.

  • @watchfullwarrior8180
    @watchfullwarrior8180 Рік тому

    1992, was M Hallin a mate on board??

  • @WndD_74
    @WndD_74 10 місяців тому

    Why didn’t the Callaway wait and pass on the Detroit River, Lake St Clair or St Clair River? I’ve seen many times ships passing to the left heading north on the St Clair River.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  10 місяців тому

      Good question. He did pass 2 other vessels on Lake St. Clair.

  • @bernardcarpenter6949
    @bernardcarpenter6949 2 роки тому +3

    He didn't do that just to save himself 4 hours, he also did that because of ego.
    Very cavalier with lives to be playing that game. I'd see that type of thing from time to time at Port Fourchon LA.
    Lack of professionalism coming from that Captain.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      Well said.

    • @danbasta3677
      @danbasta3677 2 роки тому

      I should say so. Best to avoid other sea faring vessels when on the Great Lakes like this especally when everybody KNOWS that those lakes can at any time release their fury at anytime at any second.

  • @adriannegrillo8394
    @adriannegrillo8394 Рік тому

    I say " Better safe than sorry" He's crazy!!

  • @philkipnis740
    @philkipnis740 2 роки тому

    So question did the skipper of your ship contact the Coast guard and make a complaint against the other captain's license for reckless seamanship etc and if not why?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      Nope- it was considered no worse than getting cut off on the highway.

  • @northernbettygirl
    @northernbettygirl 9 місяців тому

    What kind of action was taken upon the, then, captain of the Callaway? I didn't read the book.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  9 місяців тому

      No action at all

  • @donb4138
    @donb4138 2 роки тому

    What are the rules of the sea. If they were two sailboat the other ship had the of way.

  • @randystank416
    @randystank416 2 роки тому

    Are there rules, laws and / or fines for captains deemed reckless on the Great Lakes?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      This was considered no worse than someone cutting you off on the freeway.

  • @nolangoldberger2921
    @nolangoldberger2921 2 роки тому

    Liked you immediately.
    New subscriber

  • @TheMikesylv
    @TheMikesylv 2 роки тому

    Never would've thought that a captain would put his ship into so much jeporty! Twice no less hitting the bottom and another ship

  • @RavenclawFtW3295
    @RavenclawFtW3295 Рік тому

    Gee! I wonder how many times that captain had danger signals sent his way.

  • @rapturebound197
    @rapturebound197 2 роки тому +1

    The amount of lawlessness has been increasing in every area of life for the past 40 years..but the last 2 have been off the hook!

  • @tylerhoop5312
    @tylerhoop5312 2 роки тому

    Man i wish i had a good camera. Tried taking a picture of the Munson off Miller Beach and its just a blurry lump on the horizon with my phone

  • @Johnny-lu6zt
    @Johnny-lu6zt 2 роки тому

    I have watched this video was a few times already I like when the deck cadet goes it’s too funny lol I wonder what they were saying on the Callaway I mean when they were hard overIf them On board were laughing or not

  • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606

    Hopefully the captain on your ship told the Callaway that they were “number 1”

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Рік тому

      The full ship-to-ship radio can be heard in this video: ua-cam.com/video/lRKuKh-XeZc/v-deo.html

  • @johndeere772002
    @johndeere772002 2 роки тому +2

    What’s “check-down”?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +2

      A signal on the telegraph to the engine room to reduce the speed.

  • @NIN34
    @NIN34 2 місяці тому +1

    guess they forgot US Steel owns the lakes

  • @falcondragonslayer
    @falcondragonslayer 2 роки тому

    Why did the Mauthe not send out 5 quick horn blasts? That’s used to signify danger or that one ship doesn’t agree with the other ship’s intentions

  • @northerncaptain855
    @northerncaptain855 2 роки тому +1

    I can’t speak definitively about the Lakers, but normally ship Captains will make their intentions known to each other via voice radio communication. It’s fairly routine for the faster ship to overtake the slower ship, conditions permitting. If agreed upon, both Captains have a responsibility to arrange and facilitate this safely. If it is required to accomplish this maneuver safely the slower ship should slow down early and sufficiently enough to avoid a close quarter situation.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      I was tape recording the marine radio channels and there was no prior communications at all.

    • @FixAndForget
      @FixAndForget 2 роки тому

      My thoughts exactly. Both vessels share responsibility.

  • @livinglargeandfree8322
    @livinglargeandfree8322 Рік тому

    Captain had it under control c'mon.... Lol

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Рік тому

      Ohhhh sure.... in fact, he did.

  • @dougcrawford66
    @dougcrawford66 Рік тому

    Crazy . any ramifications?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Рік тому

      None- it was considered the same as someone cutting in front of you on the freeway.

  • @arthurhackman3229
    @arthurhackman3229 2 роки тому

    were the coast guard on Belle isle appraised of this ? he could have been fined along with ships owner that is way to close!

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      Nope. It was considered no worse than being cut off on the freeway

  • @Gdindyvideo
    @Gdindyvideo 2 роки тому

    Why don't we hear any radio chatter between the two boats, did the captains not communicate?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      In my video "Trip 29" you'll hear the only words exchanged between the two captains... and it's not what you'd expect.

  • @localbreadyboy401
    @localbreadyboy401 2 роки тому

    Are most of the AAA ships still running? Or have most of them been scrapped?

    • @TheGraeSkon
      @TheGraeSkon 2 роки тому

      I’m surprised nobody has answered you yet. So heres a long overly detailed answer.
      Surprisingly seven out of the eight AAA’s are still around in one way or another.
      The three US Steel triplets are all still running. But as of 2022 only the Arthur M. Anderson is actually being used, with the other two in layup due to the pandemic and/or disrepair.
      Kaye E. Barker (Edward B. Greene) is still in active service for Interlake.
      And then the American Valor (Armco) has been in layup for over a decade, but she was purchased by lower lakes towing and may enter service for Canada.
      Now as for the rest.
      The William Clay Ford was scrapped but her pilothouse is now part of a museum.
      JL Mauthe is now a barge named Pathfinder.
      And finally the Reserve is now the barge Maumee.
      It’s interesting that out of all laker designs, most of the AAA’s have survived. I wonder what about them still makes them useful today.

    • @localbreadyboy401
      @localbreadyboy401 2 роки тому

      @@TheGraeSkon thank you, I thought the anserson and her other 2 sisters were the only ones that were built

    • @TheGraeSkon
      @TheGraeSkon 2 роки тому

      @@localbreadyboy401 Well the Anderson Clarke and Callaway are the only ones that follow the original plans I believe. As far as I know the other 5 were slightly modified plans. Kaye E. Barker has a taller pilothouse. JL Mauthe had a much smaller aft deckhouse. The others changed around the placement of certain rooms. Generally though they all had the same Hull design and were built at around the same time. All making them Fall under the AAA class. Although I could be wrong about that. Glad I could answer your questions though 😁

  • @zacharywalters8139
    @zacharywalters8139 6 місяців тому

    Now would the captain of the Callaway get in trouble for something like that?

  • @nojunkwork5735
    @nojunkwork5735 2 роки тому

    Do you always reword your videos and run them again?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      Not usually. I had to do an edit to this long-ago posted video, and the only way to do that was to completely delete it, then edit the original and re-post. That's just the way UA-cam is set up.

  • @unkolawdio
    @unkolawdio 3 місяці тому

    Yea

  • @Michiganrailfanner23
    @Michiganrailfanner23 2 роки тому

    It’s now called the pathfinder

  • @JeffreyHatch69
    @JeffreyHatch69 2 роки тому

    What does the term check down mean?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      Signal the engine room to reduce speed.

  • @ianross7399
    @ianross7399 5 місяців тому

    I wonder if captains have any punch outs at the fuel dock?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  5 місяців тому

      Not in modern times that I know of.

  • @oceansoul3694
    @oceansoul3694 2 роки тому +1

    Does the captain of the Calloway still hold his Captain's license?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      No action was considered. He's probably retired by now... this was 1992.

  • @johnwurfel2862
    @johnwurfel2862 12 днів тому

    How did the Calloway not ground out? She drafts more than 10 feet.

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  5 днів тому

      The Mauthe's crew were watching on radar and asked the same question.

  • @aprylrittenhouse4562
    @aprylrittenhouse4562 2 роки тому

    The harrison ford of the great lakes

  • @katherineaustin2477
    @katherineaustin2477 Рік тому

    Wow captain of that boat is reckless

  • @rodneydavis9230
    @rodneydavis9230 Рік тому

    As I am not a mariner, could you explain the proper etiquette or explain who has the right of way?
    I am just assuming that the ship you are on is making a straight approach in to the channel and would have the right of way over the other ship approaching from an angle.
    If I am wrong PLEASE correct me and explain.
    I love learning new things snd don't want to just assume stuff.

  • @MLJFireDragon747
    @MLJFireDragon747 Рік тому

    He starts kicking up mud when he straightens out, less than 300 feet away, how thin is the channel? That depth difference from that far apart, 300 feet isn’t really that much to these Lakers, how far were you from the shallows?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  Рік тому

      We were right in the shipping lane about 2 or 3 vessel widths from the bank (just a guess on my part)

  • @waynerafferty1048
    @waynerafferty1048 2 роки тому

    Would them 2 ships be the same size And design as the edmond fitzgerald

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      Calloway was larger, Mauthe was smaller and they were both constructed just a few years before the Fitz.

    • @jonathanellsworth21
      @jonathanellsworth21 2 роки тому

      So I believe the Mauthe and Callaway started off as near identical sisters (AAA Class) with the Fitzgerald as a larger and wider ship. At some point the Callaway was lengthened to be longer than the Fitzgerald was, and had a boom put on while the Mauthe kept the original design until the 2010s. Callaway is currently in lay up, the Mauthe still sails... kind of, as a zombie ship, the Pathfinder.

  • @shemp308
    @shemp308 2 роки тому +1

    I have seen this video twice! And I have owned and driven small boats and know how quickly water can turn dangerous. This stunt would is stupid and insane.

  • @Mctwist42
    @Mctwist42 2 роки тому

    Where did you get your models?

    • @Mctwist42
      @Mctwist42 2 роки тому

      Or how do you make them?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      Making them is in a series of videos on this site

  • @jamestanner9601
    @jamestanner9601 2 роки тому

    Who was the Chief Engineer in 1992, remember the engine crew???

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому

      The chief didn't want his name mentioned, and he was NOT happy that I was aboard... so NO, I do not recall his name and it is not in my notes.

  • @johncraig9869
    @johncraig9869 2 роки тому

    Any sort of disciplinary action taken against the captain of the Callaway?

    • @authorwes
      @authorwes  2 роки тому +1

      Nope. It was considered as being similar to getting cut off on the highway.