E2S1 Acheron vs E0S1 Feixiao | vs Aventurine & Sam | Honkai: Star Rail

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  • @cornflakebutsilly
    @cornflakebutsilly  26 днів тому +31

    This is E2 DHIL vs E0 Ratio but 2.0+ Version 🕊
    BTW, costchesting is not my intention but Feixiao can do the same in like 2-3 cost with moze, no cost debates in here 👋
    p.s Acheron's team (Robin & Gallagher) was decided from my community poll

    • @discreaminant
      @discreaminant 26 днів тому +2

      Except both have the same cost, while there was a cost diff in Dhil vs Ratio case

    • @planetbefall4744
      @planetbefall4744 26 днів тому +13

      ​@@discreaminant there's a massive 20% res difference

    • @_JoeVer
      @_JoeVer 26 днів тому +1

      ​@@discreaminant bro doesn't know what weaknesses are😢

    • @discreaminant
      @discreaminant 26 днів тому +1

      @@_JoeVer bro doesn’t know what turbulence is

    • @literallyjiaoqiu
      @literallyjiaoqiu 26 днів тому

      cornflake you look so pretty today ❤️

  • @MJAY552
    @MJAY552 26 днів тому +31

    Feixiao is really interesting one, she is team player but also has very good nuke damage on her ult. So when she deals less damage hence her skill, her teammates cover for that aspect. Acheron deals most of her damage through ultimate so until her ultimate is up, you gotta have to wait and fill up her stacks, whereas fexiao filling her stacks also deals damage and by the time she has full stacks, the enemies are already half HP. I like how balanced they are.

  • @cobakcadangan8622
    @cobakcadangan8622 26 днів тому +43

    I dont care whose stronger, the fact that end game content become tankier are thanks to new unit being stronger than older, and its really going fast in the recent patch and i hate them

    • @donew1thita11
      @donew1thita11 26 днів тому +9

      Yeah I’m worried and I really like this game and have spent on it

    • @literallyjiaoqiu
      @literallyjiaoqiu 25 днів тому +2

      i understand you completely, i like them as characters but it really annoys me how fast the powercreep happens in this game, practically forcing you to either hyperinvest in an old unit or pull for a new one in order to clear content 🙁

  • @komgoo4974
    @komgoo4974 26 днів тому +25

    Even if Acheron is slightly worse at E0 it’s kinda the point because she’s the only character who uses nihility characters to their full strength allowing a player to stack Harmony on the second team.

    • @maiteegreen
      @maiteegreen 26 днів тому

      this

    • @GoobieWoobie69
      @GoobieWoobie69 26 днів тому +14

      Honestly Acheron really doesnt have a perfect team right now at E0 since she still needs 2 other nihility characters. Jiaqou was a great edition but the other nihility's are really lacking, and the sustain options are kind of imperfect too. Feixiao has pretty much a perfect team atm.

    • @elysiaplushie
      @elysiaplushie 25 днів тому +3

      @@GoobieWoobie69 True, FUA team probably peaked with Feixiao, FUA was already on par with other top teams prior to Fei because they do a lot of actions and Robin making the whole team deal ~30-50k per action. Now they added Feixiao who added nuke option to the team and she can do it 2 times with each dealing up to 400k each not only that she also provides more actions ~3 per turn which is like ~100k damage total including Robin's damage. Even break meta which has been getting more and more units lately don't have this level of upgrade to the team.

    • @sydorovich2532
      @sydorovich2532 22 дні тому

      While losing Robin for second side sucks, I wouldn't really call this a big advantage. Especially when RM exists or even Sparkle.

    • @loider3365
      @loider3365 8 днів тому

      I like Acheron's 2 nihility restrictions since it allows nihility characters to have more value in her team.

  • @yahoo7777777
    @yahoo7777777 26 днів тому +8

    I enjoy both characters, different fun play style, have both so not too bothered which is better.

  • @OppaiSenpai5
    @OppaiSenpai5 26 днів тому +8

    Not surprising honestly, even Ratio can 0 cycle Aventurine for less cost (and w/o eidolons) than Acheron despite the 40% imaginary resistance.

  • @sembibirthsangma1423
    @sembibirthsangma1423 26 днів тому +5

    Don't worry Acheron main she will get lots of opportunity to shine again in the future.

  • @raymondtan892
    @raymondtan892 20 днів тому +1

    They are both pretty good. For Acheron ideally you need E2 pairing with E2 sparkle or E1 Blackswan with their LC. Fei Xiao E1S1 with full FART team with robin E1. Very high investment for both teams but the damage output is insanely high

  • @TheoDimitry
    @TheoDimitry 26 днів тому +3

    Could you test hyper carry jade with lingsha when she's out? I'm just wondering how good it'd be since she's the first aoe sustainer we have

  • @XuanBachTrinh-of3pb
    @XuanBachTrinh-of3pb 26 днів тому +16

    Watching the toxic stans fight each other while having both character is quite amusing

    • @JigmeSherabWangchukJigmeSherab
      @JigmeSherabWangchukJigmeSherab 26 днів тому +1

      Ahhh i would be one of u if i didnt lose my 50 50 to that old man from HI3RD(PS i love welt as a character but fuck i dont want his playable character in my account if only i won)

    • @XuanBachTrinh-of3pb
      @XuanBachTrinh-of3pb 26 днів тому

      @@JigmeSherabWangchukJigmeSherab
      I'm going for Black Swan
      It give me an Ice version of her instead 🫠🫠

    • @literallyjiaoqiu
      @literallyjiaoqiu 26 днів тому +1

      same but i have none so im also in nobodys side 😎

    • @A.Singularity
      @A.Singularity 25 днів тому +1

      ​@@literallyjiaoqiugives you e6 welt and forces you to use him

    • @literallyjiaoqiu
      @literallyjiaoqiu 25 днів тому +1

      ⁠@@A.Singularitypls no 😭

  • @JcksnChua
    @JcksnChua 26 днів тому +7

    Conclusion, all dps characters are op till they aren't.

    • @FireFly_best_girl
      @FireFly_best_girl 9 днів тому

      All characters will get creeped eventually, sometimes characters are already creeped even before they are released like starting from 2.2 till now no character creeped BH so he basically said : nah I'd win

  • @charless7797
    @charless7797 26 днів тому +24

    Truly a Goatxiao moment

  • @kaseyatakahashi9753
    @kaseyatakahashi9753 26 днів тому +16

    The fact acheron st burst is a lot higher than fx is crazy.

    • @jordicastellaoteo6308
      @jordicastellaoteo6308 26 днів тому +23

      @@kaseyatakahashi9753 it takes much longer to charge and she also does less overall damage without ult... so it's fair I guess

    • @altiorapetamus2019
      @altiorapetamus2019 26 днів тому +7

      that just means acheron have worse dmg profile

    • @jordicastellaoteo6308
      @jordicastellaoteo6308 26 днів тому +6

      @@altiorapetamus2019 how so? Some bosses/modes benefit more from higher burst than more constant damage, Acheron aoe ult is also really convenient in some situations.

    • @altiorapetamus2019
      @altiorapetamus2019 26 днів тому +1

      @@jordicastellaoteo6308 which boss and situation are we talking about?
      In my experience i am very often has to waste acheron ult to kill low hp enemy because her skill/team just dont do enough dmg. I find it harder to reach the dmg threshold on a nuke type character.

    • @_JoeVer
      @_JoeVer 26 днів тому +7

      of course acheron's burst does more damage than fx, because dps fu xuan is a meme😅😅

  • @Hearty_fharty
    @Hearty_fharty 26 днів тому +18

    The oment Fei released, all the Fei haters that doomposted her to oblivion in beta, suddenly do a 180 and now redirect it all to Acheron who for some apparent reason according to their logic, got "worse" somehow, and is now the worst unit in the game and any person that even remotely tries to damage their negative narrative about Acheron is called a "coper," a "crybaby" or a "delusional person. " 😊

    • @akayuki2964
      @akayuki2964 26 днів тому +27

      Yeah this is why I don’t like calling these doomposters Acheron or Feixiao “mains”, they don’t care about the characters, they just wanna feel superior by trashing the “worse” character which is sad. Both characters are great and are fun to use

    • @qingquedevout
      @qingquedevout 26 днів тому +2

      Is this what actually happened? It’s more like, people doomposting Feixiao and ignoring all beta showcases/guides showing she’s good. And then when she released, people who still think she’s mediocre are blatantly in denial and are being called out.

  • @RinHimeevelyn
    @RinHimeevelyn 11 днів тому

    Firefly release: Acheron mains going toxic over Firefly and Firefly mains
    Feixiao release: Acheron mains going toxic over Feixiao and Feixiao mains.
    Different characters, same toxicity.

  • @kiieel
    @kiieel 26 днів тому +12

    show them the power of our general

  • @ninthfriend3347
    @ninthfriend3347 26 днів тому +3

    I love both Feixiao and Acheron.

  • @elfawne
    @elfawne 25 днів тому +1

    I already guessed that Acheron would get powercrept soon, looking at the powercreep pattern of HSR, and it will keep happening, to Fei and to a more busted dps after her. Of course it makes sense for Feixiao to be stronger than Acheron.
    I have Acheron and skipped Fei though. It's just funny seeing people fight when you are all victims of predatory gacha.

  • @akayuki2964
    @akayuki2964 26 днів тому +24

    "But Feixiao is single target which means she is nowhere near as good as Acheron and if you think so you are coping!"
    Oh the irony

    • @Xiao_Yin-
      @Xiao_Yin- 26 днів тому +9

      both are good, i think they are still on the same level. But FX is really the Hunt that should be, a strong character in single target. i will wait for my girl Firefly to get a dedicated support like FX and Acheron. RM is not a dedicated support for break team because damage buff is useless for super break, and HMC is not a limited character

    • @cheesegrated7893
      @cheesegrated7893 26 днів тому +7

      I mean acheron is 2x better in aoe, but feixiao is also 2x better in single target

    • @irsyadhnn
      @irsyadhnn 26 днів тому +1

      tbf these are both st bosses, i thought the op will give us examples of one st boss and one blast/aoe boss like the choir or the next aoe boss. but sure fx is indeed stronger at st

    • @akayuki2964
      @akayuki2964 26 днів тому

      @@cheesegrated7893I don't necessarily disagree, I'm just poking fun at the doomposters who kept acting like Feixiao was terrible and nowhere near Acheron/Firefly, when in reality she's just as good if not better than them

    • @alexblack1398
      @alexblack1398 26 днів тому +2

      @@Xiao_Yin- i mean FF is balanced around HMC due to how absurd HMC's kit is so i would argue only RM will get replaced if there were to be a dedicated support for the next superbreak FF team.

  • @yuzukamanor
    @yuzukamanor 25 днів тому +1

    Love the gameplay, but is it just me or is the video footage weirdly saturated here?

  • @DarkCab
    @DarkCab 26 днів тому +18

    I love Acheron

  • @source324
    @source324 26 днів тому +1

    This is a bit of a fair comparison enemy Wise since Aventurine is a SINGLE boss on a moc floor so its favor more too hunt but we can see that Acheron really is getting that powercrep soon

    • @ChiDoke
      @ChiDoke 26 днів тому

      Every dps does that’s why I’m skipping feixiao I already have two teams for MOC so I’m investing in supports and waiting for the broken dps of 3.x

    • @source324
      @source324 26 днів тому

      @@ChiDoke yeah you might as well get all the Harmon first and make the game revolve around them lol

    • @source324
      @source324 26 днів тому

      Supports

    • @ChiDoke
      @ChiDoke 26 днів тому

      I.e the next acheron

    • @kyeopmuwda
      @kyeopmuwda 26 днів тому

      feixiao is getting powercrept as well soon as 3.0 drops. a "top meta dps" getting released few patches before the 2.x patches ends is not ideal just like what happened to jingliu

  • @WinterBonus
    @WinterBonus 12 днів тому

    I have Fei E2 and she is cracked. I have Acheron E2 and she is cracked! They are both so awesome at E2!
    Right now I have to give it to the FUA team. It is so fun! The back and forth of consistent follow up's to finish it off with 2 ultimates in a row is so satisfying. I tried with and without Topaz and although Topaz is better than Moze and March i see no point to pull Topaz over Fei's E2. E2 her first and just go E0 Topaz and throw sword play on her.
    E2 Fei feels the same as E2 FF, E2 Acheron.

  • @qingquedevout
    @qingquedevout 26 днів тому +10

    Acheron gulped.
    Firefly shuddered.
    Jingliu found dead in a ditch.
    “Are you ready for your DPS lessons?”
    “Yes General Feixiao” they all said in unison.

    • @kyeopmuwda
      @kyeopmuwda 26 днів тому +1

      feixiao is getting powercrept by 3.0 just like what happened with shitliu after penacony release

    • @Badieon
      @Badieon 26 днів тому +3

      @@kyeopmuwda tbf Jingliu was extremely overrated and endgame content favored her hard for four patches

    • @A.Singularity
      @A.Singularity 25 днів тому

      ​@@Badieonso long as she still clears moc without being 8 cycles she's still usable in my books

  • @Fernando-pg5sn
    @Fernando-pg5sn 26 днів тому +1

    Feixiao: be proud, you are strong.
    🤣Feixiao mains, enjoy now, because the power creep here is very fast, Feixiao's turn will come very soon

  • @literallyjiaoqiu
    @literallyjiaoqiu 26 днів тому +5

    feixiao is so cool i wish some of her fans werent so rude

    • @alonelycacti
      @alonelycacti 12 днів тому

      That's the case for every top tier character(Robin vs ruan mei, acheron vs fei, acheron vs ff), unfortunately you can't do anything and would just have to ignore them (speaking this as a fei and acheron main).

  • @vegitoblue6969
    @vegitoblue6969 26 днів тому +1

    1 unit that will clear all modes and 1 which will only clear 2 thing with acheron is her single target is as high as a hunt but its aoe the guy with the most marks takes humt level of damage thats why hunt was dead before bootycheeks and fexaio dropped which is now able to do more single target than her but still not that big of a difference

    • @cheesycake455
      @cheesycake455 26 днів тому +5

      Bro HASN'T seen the feixiao 40k PF without lightcones on dps 💀

    • @vegitoblue6969
      @vegitoblue6969 26 днів тому +1

      @@cheesycake455 its not her its her team she cant with a non limited character team acheron can

    • @cheesycake455
      @cheesycake455 26 днів тому +5

      @@vegitoblue6969 Acheron doesn't have synergy with sub dps characters that's her fault lol,
      if it's the team that does the heavylifting then why can't any follow-up other dps do the same?? I swear Acheron gooners have an avg iq of 10

    • @kokenjoyer-zz6xz
      @kokenjoyer-zz6xz 26 днів тому +2

      Bro I think there's a huge dent in your brain

    • @Hasaiki12
      @Hasaiki12 26 днів тому

      ​@@vegitoblue6969 acheron feels terrible to play on pf without dotcheron or jq to the point my seele with robin was easily getting more points than her until i got jq

  • @YouryCh.
    @YouryCh. 26 днів тому +1

    And people say Hunt characters are mind

  • @BearableWhale9
    @BearableWhale9 18 днів тому

    Chose e1s1 fei and e1 robin over e2 fei for more universal damage. Maybe one day ill pick it up

  • @TheoDimitry
    @TheoDimitry 26 днів тому +1

    I hope Reca would be a good 4*

  • @ihyouka
    @ihyouka 26 днів тому

    I have both of them and although I was more excited about Feixiaos banner than Acherons banner when it first came out, I enjoy a lot more using Acheron, her playstyle is so simple compared to Feixiaos, full of FuAs, but I still prefer Acherons playstyle. But who do I prefer as a character? Feixiao no doubt. She is just too gorgeous.

  • @ffdzyy
    @ffdzyy 25 днів тому +1

    How about acheron e0s1 vs feixiao e0s1? Which one is better with the premium team?

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 22 дні тому

      fei but tbf acheron premium literally only has JQ as a clear teammate (and e2s1 aventurine ig)

    • @alonelycacti
      @alonelycacti 12 днів тому

      feixiao is far better but it isn't acherons fault, she only has one good unit in jq whilst fei has a perfect team, the day when we get a good second nihility or a sustainer who can proc debuffs every turn is when we can actually compare them.

    • @pally3370
      @pally3370 11 днів тому

      @@alonelycacti or a harmony unit that is for ultimate dmg dealers what robin is for FuA (Sunday I am on my knees)

    • @alonelycacti
      @alonelycacti 11 днів тому

      @@pally3370 harmony wouldn't cut it as acheron needs 2 nihilities at e0, but e2 is a different story. Also according to Sunday's leaks he seems to be a hypercarry buffer so he wouldn't work properly with acheron.

  • @Fang727
    @Fang727 22 дні тому +1

    i mean
    e2s1 acheron = 4 5 stars
    e0s1 fexiao + e0s1 topaz = 4 5 stars
    so yea for same cost they are equally good, reason i counted topaz for fexiao is that topaz and her lightcone are huge upgrades for follow up and she would drop significant damage without them, fexiao is more a team player while acheron is a solo player

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 22 дні тому

      moze and march exist and are only like marginally worse. And topaz specifically being the one counted when Robin is the bigger boost here is not it (and Fei uses robin much better than acheron). If we're counting topaz, we should count JQ bcs robin acheron comps are not good without him (Acheron is a solo player but she has a clear BiS, like she would not even be close to getting her final ult on the aventurine run if it werent for him)

  • @canqzcangcutz5181
    @canqzcangcutz5181 12 днів тому

    try Boothill vs Feixiao vs Ratio

  • @duarrdos
    @duarrdos 26 днів тому +2

    sam's MOC being a OLD moc is so weird, HSR feels too fast sometimes (in a bad way)

    • @Qisth75
      @Qisth75 24 дні тому

      Sam in F12 of new MoC when? (She has 3.14M HP now btw)

    • @pally3370
      @pally3370 11 днів тому

      @@Qisth75 they will never do that (they are shilling break meta)

  • @erelghania355
    @erelghania355 26 днів тому

    I wonder, why do you choose to skill with Topaz + BA with FeiXiao whe you can do the opposite instead? BA with Topaz then skill with FeiXiao

  • @AeryMP3
    @AeryMP3 22 дні тому

    Ik feixiao is obviously single target but she’s still better than acheron and can still 0 cycle with bronya and march 7th so she isn’t even that reliant on Robin although robin still boosts her exponentially acheron is still an amazing dps with her benefits however for example she will improve with more nihility units and is alot better in aoe content and pf

  • @discreaminant
    @discreaminant 26 днів тому +14

    Fei stans, b4 trashing Acheron, be objective 🙂
    They have the same cost (8 vs 8)
    Acheron has an advantage of weakness, while Fei has an advantage of the turbulence
    I’d say… approximately the same, in this vid only. They’re both good

    • @planetbefall4744
      @planetbefall4744 26 днів тому +20

      Turbulence benefits both characters almost equally and is no way comparable to 20% damage loss from RES lol

    • @Yor-Yor-Yor
      @Yor-Yor-Yor 26 днів тому +5

      ​@@planetbefall4744 well turbulence helps FuA lot more, I do agree Feixiao is better against Aventurine, Acheron is more of an AoE unit

    • @ajbrawlstars8844
      @ajbrawlstars8844 26 днів тому +11

      Lol what kind of world u r living?

    • @planetbefall4744
      @planetbefall4744 26 днів тому +4

      @@Yor-Yor-Yor she should go to pure fiction then

    • @discreaminant
      @discreaminant 26 днів тому +4

      @@ajbrawlstars8844 in a world of Fei mains where I’m one of them
      Ur point got cooked
      Try harder next time 🙂

  • @monbebehere1607
    @monbebehere1607 26 днів тому +6

    Still 8cost vs 8cost. Anyway I like both chars 👍

    • @cheesycake455
      @cheesycake455 26 днів тому +13

      yea but support investment lasts for a year longer compared to dps eidolons

    • @monbebehere1607
      @monbebehere1607 26 днів тому +7

      @@cheesycake455 ya but it’s kinda misleading to be all like e2 vs e0! And it’s the same cost team. I do think fei xiao is in a better spot than Acheron rn but that’s mainly due to her team just being better not her as a character. Everyone on her team does good damage and abuses robin perfectly.

    • @planetbefall4744
      @planetbefall4744 26 днів тому +14

      ​@@monbebehere1607what cope, that is the advantage of her kit, Acheron not utilising sub dps is her fault lol

    • @unraveledsoul2438
      @unraveledsoul2438 26 днів тому +10

      8cost is just overkill for feixiao i did a 3cost 0cycle with feixiao e1 Robin moze and preservation march 7th without any rng and sustain issue

    • @monbebehere1607
      @monbebehere1607 26 днів тому +4

      @@planetbefall4744 nobody is coping i literally said fei xiao is better right now 💀 all im saying is the video has 2 teams of the same cost. Can fei go lower? Yea but this video doesn’t do that

  • @mcbx3d
    @mcbx3d 26 днів тому +1

    I rlly hope that they release the debuffer Archetype sustain in the future, someone that complements his Archetype like Gallagher/Lingsha for Break and Aventurine for FUA, this two Archetypes performance are a lot worse if you don't use them, with shows how much impact this characters have in their archetypes. The debuff Archetype atm only have band-aid sustainers (you know this when you need to use a 4* gacha LC to make the team work well).

    • @Badieon
      @Badieon 26 днів тому

      Yeah Feixiao already has bis and peak of her team, for Acheron two slots are open to be taken to truly work well with Acheron (also imagine if Hoyo made JQ actually equal to Robin/RM)

    • @Aub4de
      @Aub4de 26 днів тому

      ​@@Badieon Funny how are you are in every Acheron vs Feixiao vid coping in the comment section xDD
      Every team has slots to be improved on and it WILL happen. They need to sell. Stop coping.

    • @Badieon
      @Badieon 26 днів тому

      @@Aub4de imadequiteanameformyself
      Also coping about what?

    • @literallyjiaoqiu
      @literallyjiaoqiu 26 днів тому

      @@Aub4dehow could feixiao team be improved tbh? shes woth topaz (amazing for her cuz she gives stacks and fua vul) robin (more fua dmg, action advance, prob one of the best harmonies in general) and aventurine (fua sustain) meanwhile acheron has jiaoqiu (made for her so its okay) robin (not a debuffer) and gallagher (not a debuff sustainer)
      acherons team is her best atm but its not as perfect for her as feixiaos, since fua characters are more common than debuffers
      im not defending acheron i couldnt give less of a shit, but saying both teams can improve is bs

    • @literallyjiaoqiu
      @literallyjiaoqiu 26 днів тому

      @@Badieonjq is the best for acheron, hes currently the only character in her team that is meant for her and he does it well

  • @oyfum2638
    @oyfum2638 26 днів тому +14

    Haters will say E0 Acheron would be able to 0 cycle as well

    • @jordicastella8799
      @jordicastella8799 26 днів тому +6

      You literally can, but you need to go sustainless and pray for RNG

    • @oyfum2638
      @oyfum2638 26 днів тому +5

      @@jordicastella8799 yes that’s the exact problem

    • @oyfum2638
      @oyfum2638 26 днів тому +2

      @@jordicastellaoteo6308 well alright then, if it were me though, I’d rather not have to deal with aventurine rng.

    • @oliveratom5957
      @oliveratom5957 26 днів тому

      ​@@oyfum2638I mean if you want to do a 0 cycle, unless you are really over the dps needed for it (and whats the point then, you are ruining the fun part) it is going to take rng to do

    • @oyfum2638
      @oyfum2638 26 днів тому

      @@oliveratom5957 it’s better to have more dps then you need so you CAN avoid rng. Feixiao at 5+ cost is more than enough dps to 0 cycle anything even with sustain. She can probably even 0 cycle Rappa’s shilling boss despite being at a heavy disadvantage.

  • @H2f1sh
    @H2f1sh 26 днів тому +5

    QQ>>

  • @Kunkunne-lv9wv
    @Kunkunne-lv9wv 26 днів тому +3

    I already stop play this game but it still funny people still argument over unit .of course Feixiao gonna do better than Acheron here because it her patch .If you try to comparison should be next next patch because not build neither both unit .

  • @reiginaldvenjamineisidro5215
    @reiginaldvenjamineisidro5215 20 днів тому

    Honestly, just get both, i have e2s1 acheron and also feixioa they both are the best dps, if u guys try comperang eachohter, ur basically just bringing copium to everyone in vicinity, honestly quit hsr if ur just coping about it, (ps no hate to everyone but i just hate about comparisons and copium of acheron and other good dps since she was released)

  • @genjutsukonoha-py8nf
    @genjutsukonoha-py8nf 25 днів тому

    with sparkle e0s0 cant do 0 cycle?

    • @pally3370
      @pally3370 11 днів тому

      Robin's turn manipulation is too crazy

  • @diasui
    @diasui 26 днів тому

    If you can turn off your brain using said character, then you know they're good 🗣️🗣️

  • @ruru__
    @ruru__ 26 днів тому +10

    Noooooooooooo
    Bbbbbbbhbut mmyyy acheron noooooooooo she is best dps nooooooo 9 actions 0 damage noooooo

  • @akmal1264
    @akmal1264 26 днів тому +6

    both 0 cycled but acheron took less time irl so she wins 🎉🎉🎉

    • @hungcaomanh6753
      @hungcaomanh6753 26 днів тому +7

      but shes e2 and the enemy has wind res🥺

    • @NorthernWind26
      @NorthernWind26 26 днів тому +6

      Lmaoooo midcheron main

    • @jenicolayog8924
      @jenicolayog8924 26 днів тому +3

      ​@@NorthernWind26 bro acheron only the main damage dealer meanwhile fua all of them becoming sub dps lmao yapping yapping

    • @TheoDimitry
      @TheoDimitry 26 днів тому +3

      ​@@hungcaomanh6753and feixiao has e0s1 aventurine, they're all 8 cost

    • @Nzeydayo
      @Nzeydayo 26 днів тому +1

      ​@@NorthernWind26midxiao womp womp

  • @davide29250
    @davide29250 26 днів тому +2

    is it my impression or did you ''inflated'' feixiao team whit 5* LC to make acheron look better?

  • @gansoide7125
    @gansoide7125 26 днів тому +6

    Acheron doesn't have dedicated supports as feixiao, and eidolons has less impact than a dedicated support, so, is good to see that acheron, who isn't Even in her bis team,still does zero cycles

    • @unraveledsoul2438
      @unraveledsoul2438 26 днів тому +28

      @@gansoide7125 so acheron mains are still coping about not having dedicated support after jiaoqiu release icant

    • @haikalazharuddin
      @haikalazharuddin 26 днів тому +9

      After so long acheron main waiting for jiaoqiu, he still not her dedicated support huh?

    • @renflare2570
      @renflare2570 26 днів тому

      ​@@unraveledsoul2438i mean thats one And it did boost Acheron up But Thats only one part if Were going by E0S1 case

    • @renflare2570
      @renflare2570 26 днів тому

      @@gansoide7125 to for me im fine with only having JQ as her BiS since in the future MoC will change and its gonna change
      (those 2.6 MoC are no joke

    • @unraveledsoul2438
      @unraveledsoul2438 26 днів тому +8

      @@renflare2570 ig SW dosent exist anmore or non of harmony characters dosent exist anymore so is acheron such a dogshit character that she need 2 more character built just for her For u copers? 🤣

  • @donew1thita11
    @donew1thita11 26 днів тому

    Acheron hotter but I will try to get at least one of tjem

  • @judielgabrielmanalo5031
    @judielgabrielmanalo5031 26 днів тому +46

    The amount of copium acheron mains in the comments is hilarious

    • @jordicastellaoteo6308
      @jordicastellaoteo6308 26 днів тому +39

      Feixiao mains will experiment the same in probably less than 2-3 months, dw.
      Acheron might become better in the future than Feixiao if they start releasing broken Nihilities that she can abuse as much as Feixiao can abuse Robin.

    • @irsyadhnn
      @irsyadhnn 26 днів тому +4

      @@jordicastellaoteo6308 hmmm yes feixiao team may be complete but it is still absurdly strong. if anything i think it’s more of bc the next upcoming 2 phase bosses are aoe and linked hp (and the rumor of 3.x being more aoe focused but dunno whether this is true or not)

    • @unendingvoid
      @unendingvoid 26 днів тому +11

      ​@@irsyadhnn2.6 moc enemies suck for feixiao. She can't 0 cycle it at e0s1, needs E2. Content will always develop and adjust so the T0 dps can be better than each other
      But it's true Acheron has more potential than Feixiao does. Feixiao's team is about as complete as it can be

    • @jordicastellaoteo6308
      @jordicastellaoteo6308 26 днів тому +3

      @@irsyadhnn i will also say that hi3rd and hsr are going to have a colab... and Kiana could perfectly be Nihility

    • @irsyadhnn
      @irsyadhnn 26 днів тому +6

      @@unendingvoid yeah i do agree that acheron has more room to grow though this is the same case as other hypercarries too, i think. since we only have 1 dedicated ST buffer aka tingyun. i mean acheron’s second BiS support being robin is also telling how bad it is rn (ik shes super strong but the contribution is definitely not as much utilized as dual carries, esp fua)

  • @matthewbrandt8617
    @matthewbrandt8617 24 дні тому

    Me with both of these units at E6
    "Why are these people arguing?"

    • @Mimic_656
      @Mimic_656 22 дні тому

      Lol did you PTW bro?

  • @xeviivry3798
    @xeviivry3798 26 днів тому +1

    What's the problem tho? Didn't they both 0 cycle with an 8 cost team? Dunno why you lot are fighting so hard for

  • @skirillz
    @skirillz 26 днів тому +1

    Midxiao

  • @khunneth3514
    @khunneth3514 26 днів тому +5

    Midcheron overrated af.

  • @srishtisharma3908
    @srishtisharma3908 26 днів тому +5

    As a non brain dead Acheron haver, i completely agree that feixiao is better in moc and acheron was never and will never be the best after ff release

    • @Radiant450
      @Radiant450 26 днів тому +2

      Thing is with Acheron, you either get people saying “oh, my E0S0 hits for (insert massive number)” which are usually impossibly high unless your supports are stupidly invested and we also don’t know what mode + what buffs + what enemy + what supports.
      Or you get the people who will bring in their dolphin investment Acheron (E2S1+) in an argument about E0S0 performance.
      Rarely does anyone look at her objectively and look at the data, because she probably is the character the entire community invested the most into and her being meta is justification enough for all that investment.

    • @mcbx3d
      @mcbx3d 26 днів тому +4

      Just to start, I'm not an Acheron main or anything like that, but I don't know if I agree with this "never will be", Acheron's E0 team still have 2 slots that can be upgraded, the sustainer and the Pela slot.
      Feixiao and FF both have a sustainer "tailor-made" for them that helps with their necessities like breaks/constant attacks, do a considerable amount of dmg and apply debuffs that the team needs, playing with Feixiao with and without Aventurine as sustainer it's a big difference and the same can be said for FF with and without Gallagher/Lingsha, try change then for a Fu Xuan and you'll see a big difference in performance. But Acheron don't have this "perfect fit" sustainer not even a 4* like FF have. We can use Aventurine + Market but he's more like a band-aid, he's not made for her. Acheron at E0 only has Jiaoqiu who works perfectly well for her as 5*. So I think there is still room to grow with a sustainer slot focused on debuffs and a 5* debuffer stronger than SW.

    • @srishtisharma3908
      @srishtisharma3908 26 днів тому +1

      @@mcbx3d ff and boothill don’t even have a good support yet. 68 percent damage boost of rm is wasted on both and boothill even Needs to run bronya who has 0 synergy with his kit except the action advance while Acheron got a whole ass character just for her. You still use the free tb on their team and rm ,both can get soo much better. Probably in 2.7 5 star tingyun will be released and she will be a super break support and that will boost both of their damage by a ton. So the support condition for ff and boothill is wayy worse than acheron who has jiaoqui silver wolf pela and dotcheron which are really good for her

    • @Aub4de
      @Aub4de 26 днів тому

      ​@@mcbx3d Every slot can be upgraded for any character, which WILL happen for both Feixiao and Acheron. This is cope argument.

    • @mcbx3d
      @mcbx3d 26 днів тому +1

      @@srishtisharma3908 Bro... first of all I'm not talking about Boothill, he needs his own things.
      Second say that RM's kit it's bad for then just because they don't use the dmg% it's wild, the rest of her kit have all that they need except superbreak. She extends the time that the enemy stay broke, she it's sp positive, do the extra dmg when break, gives team wide spd, break effect, res red and break efficiency, this are all that SB teams need to make the superbreak do insane amount of dmg. They can powercreep her in the future for Break teams? yeah, but to say that a character that have all that the team needs it's bad for then it's a bad take.