Nice video! I was fully expecting the last song to be Vicious [ANTi] Heroism but hey, I guess it's probably too difficult for some people... Anyhow, here's my thoughts on the 11s: Grievous Lady - personally I find GL as the best song to test a player's technique and their ability to tackle 11s. As this song's chart has been out for over 6 years, many people have built their specific technique to deal with this, making this probably one of the easiest one in perspective. 1st 11 EX+. Arghena - Now this is a surprise pick, not because this is my 2nd 11 EX+. The gimmicks can throw people off in their sightread, but for the same reason as GL, this song requires solid technique which I like. Definitely not the easiest of the 11s, but not as hard as people perceive it to be. Vicious [ANTi] Heroism - 3rd 11 EX+, this chart is very straightforward and requires heavy speed and stamina to execute those fast patterns. Besides the offhand pattern in the middle, this song is good to practice for FR and also another good gatekeeper to 11s. High accuracy not required for EX. Fracture Ray - A chart that tests your speed and crosshand ability, both of which I'm not exactly the best at. Harder to get good score on due to both need for accuracy on speedy dense sections and less than average note counts for an 11. The only saving grace for this is that it has been over 5 years since its release, so there are many PM videos for players to see. Aegleseeker - This song is as if the speed from FR and technique from GL had a child. If you cannot handle the first half, don't imagine yourself handling the second half. However, since 1/5 of the chart is basically free score, getting a decent score of AA is surprisingly not that hard, so that's why they are in this spot. Bump this down by 2 slots if you are going for EX+. SAIKYO STRONGER - A stamina chart that tests your stream and 2hand techniques, and a lot of it. I struggled with this until recently when I EX'd it, but it's still far easier and less strain on fingers compared to songs that are below this. Accuracy is still a big factor when it comes to EXing this song, so do not sleep on it. Abstruse Dillemma - AD contains crosshand patterns, big movement streams, and the infamous I pattern that trip many players and affects their EX/+ runs. Going downwards in this list, players that do not have strong crosshand and technique fundamentals from 10+s and below will struggle to get EX scores. PRAGMATISM RESURRECTION - The first song to contain offhand patterns, but it's not why it's down here. The early part is extremely difficult to pull off perfectly as it is Exschwasion incarnate, and the latter half after the offhand section is also hell to play perfectly because of high technique ceiling. A difficult chart overall across all sections. World Ender - A lot of 1/2hand jacks and difficult stream patterns, on top of polyrhythms, trains, and crosshands. Also, the dense hold notes can ruin runs. Accuracy matters less in WE than in the songs below this and the three songs above this song, since if you can jack well in WE, you are pretty much set to EX this. Pentiment - Discounting the 6k gimmick, this chart is just stupidly hard to get EX. 2hand patterns, trill bursts, multifingering... all of them exists in this chart. Let's not forget the SDVX arcs after the first 6k part. Arcana Eden - Also discounting the 6k gimmick, the tricky arcs and fast trill bursts in this song should not be taken lightly, not even considering that 1/5th of the song is basically free score. Maybe harder than Tempest if you are trying to go for EX+ when considering against Tempest EX. Tempestissimo - The one and only song that still haunts me today after almost four years from its initial release and jumpscare to the Arcaea community. 231BPM 24th stream is just brutal to play, and the latter half of the chart is just straight painful to even play. I wonder what Tairitsu was thinking when she smirks at you missing notes during the anomaly.
You gotta account for the fact that Grievous Lady and Fracture Ray's cc are literally outdated. I wouldn't just base on just CC alone. As a 12.90 index and 12.42 thumb user (I have 2 accounts, one on tablet and one on phone), I'd personally say that Fracture Ray is the easiest, then Saikyou Stronger, then Aegleseeker. In conclusion: do not trust lowiro's cc rating lmao
@@hanay4949 last part is a major choke point. Not only do you have to go fast but the jumps....I still cannot Full Recall that compared to Fracture Ray, Aegleseeker and Pragmatism BYD.
Good to see u making content now man. Its kinda refreshing to see what player above average skill like u think on some chart. I usually have a hard time to even try EX the latest ftr 10+ let a lone ftr 11 since i usually just play with thumb, so i dont know if i were to consider myself even average player at this point..
I dont have all the 11's but here is what I think I own: Aegleseeker, Grievous Lady, Fracture Ray, Tempestissimo, Abstruse Dilemma, World Ender, Arcana Eden, Arghena, Pentiment, Arcana Eden. First of all we are going to immediately scratch off tempest, pentiment and arcana, NOBODY thinks they are the easiest 11. This leaves us with Aegleseeker, Fracture Ray, Grievous Lady, Abstruse Dilemma, World Ender, and Arghena. I personally believe Aegleseeker is a very weird chart, because at a 11.5 ptt skil level or lower, its by far the hardest FTR 11. I have noticed how many higher ptt players think its on the easier side, while low stars, tomatoes and under believe its one of the hardest, if not THE hardest FTR 11. Just because its not really unanimous and because most people dont believe its the easiest anyways, we are going to get rid of Aegleseeker. Now, Abstruse Dilemma, similarly to Aegleseeker, is very difficult at a lower skill level, and to me as a 12.04, I still believe that the parts with the slams are very very difficult so I believe we can scratch Abstruse Dilemma off too. As for Arghena, Grievous Lady and Fracture Ray, World Ender, which one is the CLEAR odd one out? Its arghena. Its literally arghena. Grievous Lady and Fracture Ray are both very easy 11's to the majority of the arcaea community, from even grapes all the way to tripstars. Fracture Ray and Grievous Lady are by far the most common first 11 FR's, and Fracture Ray is by far the most common 11 AA, or 11 EX Given all of this, I believe we can deduce that Fracture Ray is the easiest 11 for MOST people. There is still also World Ender, which is also a very good pick as it is 'easy' for an 11 but it is by no means the easiest when we have stuff like Saikyo, Vicious, Fracture Ray.
With some certain differences, i also believe things like that. FR and GL are VERY easy as 11s because they are old and most of their patterns are not revolutionary, like GL's 4 fingers parts. Nowadays, the easiest chart is FR imo.
I find arghena really difficult, imo. I'm terrible at handplacements and the sped up scroll speed is just too mind boggling to even play for me. I seriously can't understand it
Im still new to ftr11 so far i only have clear fracture ray since its my first ftr 11.And now working on grivous lady + i unclock saikyo stronger ftr11. Dont ask about tempestissimo im not even touch that byd chart.
This is for my options rated soing I started from easiest 11 to hardest 11 (expect TESTIFY) 1. PRAGMATISM -RESURRECTION- (11.0): laur tried remake song like (2022 remastered ver) but laur is re-add some section song. The hard part of song is double arc in one hand with cross hand. Every arcaea see cross hand is pain but it's still fun 2 .SAIKYO Stronger (11.0): Tano c collaboration is very nice but painful pattern.. because the charter put 4th notes sky in saikyo stronger. Still fun right? 3. Abstruse Dilemma (11.1): Just put some SDVX part about arc and still painful at last ( like grace pattern) 4. Agleseeker (11.1): At start I always love about arc section cause it's still make me feel happy to play that song. But at 'And the light, I could find deliveries' moment. It's still easily to read and respect to our composer 5. World Ender (11.2): A painful stamina pattern for begining to end. 6. Aghena (11.3) : still long way to go like final act. I thought Hikari and Tatitsu is finally back to friend is last act. So painful at middle cause they changed speed lane and make notes slowly at burst pattern. 7. Grevious Lady (11.3): still hardest in ver 1 cause I'm can't do it cause many notes every time you played it and crossed hands 8. Fracture Ray (11.3) still hardest than Grevious Lady cause more painful about last section 9. PENTIMENT (11.4): first appear 6k moment. Even this chart is much harder. They added bursting some 6k at last .... 10. Arcana Eden (11.4): A epic battle between 3 rhythm composers. No one talked about this cause all chart are very hard 11. Tempestissimo (11.5): the hardest song in 11 . This is real breaks your limits. Cause all section is all burst pattern... So the first byd chart is never make us disappointed.
My ptt is 12.51 Testify = 12.0(9536xxx) Pentiment = 11.6 (9661xxx) Tempestissimo = 11.5(9720xxx) Arghena, Arcana Eden = 11.4(9779xxx to 9803xxx) Abstruse Dilemma, Fracture Ray = 11.2(9856xxx to 9868xxx) Vicious Anti Heroism, Grievous Lady, World Ender, SAIKYO STRONGER = 11.1(9872xxx to 9889xxx) Aegleseeker = 11.0(9905xxx)
according to me abstruse saikyo and aegleseeker is harder than gl fracture arghena abstruse i really hate the stupid arcs and the ending saikyo i dont know i can’t even handle the mid part aegle such a weird chart from start to end if including the byd , the easiest for me is world ender and vicious
Aegle is the hardest FTR11, or even hardest 11 except Tempestissimo for me If I rate 11s from the easiest to hardest: Grievous Lady Saikyo Stronger World Ender Ab Dilemma Vicious [] Arghena Pragmatism Petiment Fracture Ray Arcana Eden AEGLESEEKER Tempestissimo
@@Giratina_br Fracture Ray's arcs ain't even that hard 😭. Not only that but they really just went and put Aegle at second hardest 11, which is even wilder. Harder than fricking Arcana Eden and Pentiment lol
@@ga14th_d05 An opinion is an opinion, i ain't arguing with that, as i also struggle with Aegleseeker 💀. But yeah i kinda do think the same for Fracture Ray, it is really easy.
Vicious Anti Heroism is definitely the easiest 11 While Aegelseeker and Abstruse Dilemma a little bit harder Saikyo Stronger is the hardest FTR 11 for me
For me it’s GL lol, I almost have an EX+ on that chart, granted I have not played Aegleseeker or Abtruse dilemma. Personally I think the difference between the easiest and hardest 11 is massive tho.
Abtruse Dilemma is definitely the hardest FTR 11 imo, not the easiest. The one I thought that is the easiest in the game is Grievous Lady, or in this video, Aegleseeker
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Nice video! I was fully expecting the last song to be Vicious [ANTi] Heroism but hey, I guess it's probably too difficult for some people...
Anyhow, here's my thoughts on the 11s:
Grievous Lady - personally I find GL as the best song to test a player's technique and their ability to tackle 11s. As this song's chart has been out for over 6 years, many people have built their specific technique to deal with this, making this probably one of the easiest one in perspective. 1st 11 EX+.
Arghena - Now this is a surprise pick, not because this is my 2nd 11 EX+. The gimmicks can throw people off in their sightread, but for the same reason as GL, this song requires solid technique which I like. Definitely not the easiest of the 11s, but not as hard as people perceive it to be.
Vicious [ANTi] Heroism - 3rd 11 EX+, this chart is very straightforward and requires heavy speed and stamina to execute those fast patterns. Besides the offhand pattern in the middle, this song is good to practice for FR and also another good gatekeeper to 11s. High accuracy not required for EX.
Fracture Ray - A chart that tests your speed and crosshand ability, both of which I'm not exactly the best at. Harder to get good score on due to both need for accuracy on speedy dense sections and less than average note counts for an 11. The only saving grace for this is that it has been over 5 years since its release, so there are many PM videos for players to see.
Aegleseeker - This song is as if the speed from FR and technique from GL had a child. If you cannot handle the first half, don't imagine yourself handling the second half. However, since 1/5 of the chart is basically free score, getting a decent score of AA is surprisingly not that hard, so that's why they are in this spot. Bump this down by 2 slots if you are going for EX+.
SAIKYO STRONGER - A stamina chart that tests your stream and 2hand techniques, and a lot of it. I struggled with this until recently when I EX'd it, but it's still far easier and less strain on fingers compared to songs that are below this. Accuracy is still a big factor when it comes to EXing this song, so do not sleep on it.
Abstruse Dillemma - AD contains crosshand patterns, big movement streams, and the infamous I pattern that trip many players and affects their EX/+ runs. Going downwards in this list, players that do not have strong crosshand and technique fundamentals from 10+s and below will struggle to get EX scores.
PRAGMATISM RESURRECTION - The first song to contain offhand patterns, but it's not why it's down here. The early part is extremely difficult to pull off perfectly as it is Exschwasion incarnate, and the latter half after the offhand section is also hell to play perfectly because of high technique ceiling. A difficult chart overall across all sections.
World Ender - A lot of 1/2hand jacks and difficult stream patterns, on top of polyrhythms, trains, and crosshands. Also, the dense hold notes can ruin runs. Accuracy matters less in WE than in the songs below this and the three songs above this song, since if you can jack well in WE, you are pretty much set to EX this.
Pentiment - Discounting the 6k gimmick, this chart is just stupidly hard to get EX. 2hand patterns, trill bursts, multifingering... all of them exists in this chart. Let's not forget the SDVX arcs after the first 6k part.
Arcana Eden - Also discounting the 6k gimmick, the tricky arcs and fast trill bursts in this song should not be taken lightly, not even considering that 1/5th of the song is basically free score. Maybe harder than Tempest if you are trying to go for EX+ when considering against Tempest EX.
Tempestissimo - The one and only song that still haunts me today after almost four years from its initial release and jumpscare to the Arcaea community. 231BPM 24th stream is just brutal to play, and the latter half of the chart is just straight painful to even play. I wonder what Tairitsu was thinking when she smirks at you missing notes during the anomaly.
You gotta account for the fact that Grievous Lady and Fracture Ray's cc are literally outdated. I wouldn't just base on just CC alone. As a 12.90 index and 12.42 thumb user (I have 2 accounts, one on tablet and one on phone), I'd personally say that Fracture Ray is the easiest, then Saikyou Stronger, then Aegleseeker.
In conclusion: do not trust lowiro's cc rating lmao
I’d argue grievous lady is easier then saikyo and aegle
Saikyo is just the easiest 11 bro, I can't see the reason why it's harder than Fracture Ray....
@@hanay4949FR is easier imo, only PM is harder
@@hanay4949 last part is a major choke point. Not only do you have to go fast but the jumps....I still cannot Full Recall that compared to Fracture Ray, Aegleseeker and Pragmatism BYD.
Someone say world ender byd is 10+
Good to see u making content now man. Its kinda refreshing to see what player above average skill like u think on some chart. I usually have a hard time to even try EX the latest ftr 10+ let a lone ftr 11 since i usually just play with thumb, so i dont know if i were to consider myself even average player at this point..
me who is 11.83 ptt and can't play any 11s for my life:
im in danger
Not even fracture ray??????
@@Aboywithananimegurlfotoloser I got 12.04 PTT and fracture ray was my first 11 EX so... I guess you're right LOL
I knew because it is the easiest 11 lol
I am at 11.85, but I haven't EXed any 11s.
Fracture at 9793k, grievous at 9794k, saikyo at 9711.
I can't even read arghena
@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 i can read the start only the start after that my brain turns off lol.
Other than GL and FR, Vicious anti heroism is definitely the easiest
true, that's my very first 9600K score on any 11s
I dont have all the 11's but here is what I think
I own: Aegleseeker, Grievous Lady, Fracture Ray, Tempestissimo, Abstruse Dilemma, World Ender, Arcana Eden, Arghena, Pentiment, Arcana Eden.
First of all we are going to immediately scratch off tempest, pentiment and arcana, NOBODY thinks they are the easiest 11.
This leaves us with Aegleseeker, Fracture Ray, Grievous Lady, Abstruse Dilemma, World Ender, and Arghena. I personally believe Aegleseeker is a very weird chart, because at a 11.5 ptt skil level or lower, its by far the hardest FTR 11. I have noticed how many higher ptt players think its on the easier side, while low stars, tomatoes and under believe its one of the hardest, if not THE hardest FTR 11. Just because its not really unanimous and because most people dont believe its the easiest anyways, we are going to get rid of Aegleseeker.
Now, Abstruse Dilemma, similarly to Aegleseeker, is very difficult at a lower skill level, and to me as a 12.04, I still believe that the parts with the slams are very very difficult so I believe we can scratch Abstruse Dilemma off too.
As for Arghena, Grievous Lady and Fracture Ray, World Ender, which one is the CLEAR odd one out?
Its arghena. Its literally arghena.
Grievous Lady and Fracture Ray are both very easy 11's to the majority of the arcaea community, from even grapes all the way to tripstars. Fracture Ray and Grievous Lady are by far the most common first 11 FR's, and Fracture Ray is by far the most common 11 AA, or 11 EX
Given all of this, I believe we can deduce that Fracture Ray is the easiest 11 for MOST people.
There is still also World Ender, which is also a very good pick as it is 'easy' for an 11 but it is by no means the easiest when we have stuff like Saikyo, Vicious, Fracture Ray.
With some certain differences, i also believe things like that. FR and GL are VERY easy as 11s because they are old and most of their patterns are not revolutionary, like GL's 4 fingers parts. Nowadays, the easiest chart is FR imo.
I'd say world ender
Especially for a beyond its quite easy
I find arghena really difficult, imo. I'm terrible at handplacements and the sped up scroll speed is just too mind boggling to even play for me. I seriously can't understand it
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Im still new to ftr11 so far i only have clear fracture ray since its my first ftr 11.And now working on grivous lady + i unclock saikyo stronger ftr11.
Dont ask about tempestissimo im not even touch that byd chart.
This is for my options rated soing
I started from easiest 11 to hardest 11 (expect TESTIFY)
1. PRAGMATISM -RESURRECTION- (11.0): laur tried remake song like (2022 remastered ver) but laur is re-add some section song. The hard part of song is double arc in one hand with cross hand. Every arcaea see cross hand is pain but it's still fun
2 .SAIKYO Stronger (11.0): Tano c collaboration is very nice but painful pattern.. because the charter put 4th notes sky in saikyo stronger. Still fun right?
3. Abstruse Dilemma (11.1): Just put some SDVX part about arc and still painful at last ( like grace pattern)
4. Agleseeker (11.1): At start I always love about arc section cause it's still make me feel happy to play that song. But at 'And the light, I could find deliveries' moment. It's still easily to read and respect to our composer
5. World Ender (11.2): A painful stamina pattern for begining to end.
6. Aghena (11.3) : still long way to go like final act. I thought Hikari and Tatitsu is finally back to friend is last act. So painful at middle cause they changed speed lane and make notes slowly at burst pattern.
7. Grevious Lady (11.3): still hardest in ver 1 cause I'm can't do it cause many notes every time you played it and crossed hands
8. Fracture Ray (11.3) still hardest than Grevious Lady cause more painful about last section
9. PENTIMENT (11.4): first appear 6k moment. Even this chart is much harder. They added bursting some 6k at last ....
10. Arcana Eden (11.4): A epic battle between 3 rhythm composers. No one talked about this cause all chart are very hard
11. Tempestissimo (11.5): the hardest song in 11 . This is real breaks your limits. Cause all section is all burst pattern... So the first byd chart is never make us disappointed.
일단 전 saikyo stronger를 고르겠습니다
+ 0:17 근데 아무리 그래도 그렇지 여기다가 재규어를 넣으시면 어떡합니다ㅋㅋ
My ptt is 12.51
Testify = 12.0(9536xxx)
Pentiment = 11.6 (9661xxx)
Tempestissimo = 11.5(9720xxx)
Arghena, Arcana Eden = 11.4(9779xxx to 9803xxx)
Abstruse Dilemma, Fracture Ray = 11.2(9856xxx to 9868xxx)
Vicious Anti Heroism, Grievous Lady, World Ender, SAIKYO STRONGER = 11.1(9872xxx to 9889xxx)
Aegleseeker = 11.0(9905xxx)
Hot take: It's Arghena for me
I agree
I would say it's very thumbable for an 11 (minus the last burst)
Easiest to hardest:
1. Vicious [Anti] heroism
2. Aegleseeker
3. Abstruse Dilemma
4. Fracture Ray, Grievous Lady
6. World’s Ender
7. Pragmatism Resurrection
8. Arghena
9. Saikyo Stronger (I still wonder how this is 11.0)
10. Pentiment, Aecana Eden
12. Tempestissimo
For me it’s probably GL FR or Arghena.
Grievous Lady for me because I jumped from 9+ to pm it
클리어는 골절빔도 쉽긴 한데
그 이후부터가 문제라
just gl man
FINALLY!!!
저는 영상에 나오는 11렙들보다 그리버스가 더 쉽게 느껴지네요... 그리버스를 많이 파서 그런가
그리고 쌍별텐 축하드립니다
전 그리버스 도저히 못하겠더라고요 ㅠ
yeah theres a reason why they're adjusting the ratings soon right
Idk why but for me, Fracture Ray for me is easy to beat as well with Grievous tairitsu and i could even beat it normaly in world mode
Also with summer lilith and tempest tairitsu
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vicious anti heroism byd 10
change my mind
10.9
@@b0mberr330 nah , 10 is 10 , i should call it a 9+ but sadly no 9+ have that many note , it 10 , 10.0 already
@@arckz513 by that logic vicious heroism(ftr) should be a 9.0 because no way in hell it compares in difficulty to vicious anti heroism
If so, Fracture Ray and Grievous lady FTR 9+
Grievous Lady and Aegleseeker
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풀콤:사이쿄
Pragmatism byd 1-0
Grievous Lady 2-0
Three of those speedystyle chose
Below 995
according to me abstruse saikyo and aegleseeker is harder than gl fracture arghena
abstruse i really hate the stupid arcs and the ending
saikyo i dont know i can’t even handle the mid part
aegle such a weird chart from start to end
if including the byd , the easiest for me is world ender and vicious
World ender, aegleseeker and grievous lady definitely the easiest
Aegle is by far the easiest tbh
Followed by Arghena and GL (tied for 2nd currently IMO)
Interesting how the easiest 11s are the ones that require you to reach 11 potential lol
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Is there a difference between future 11 and beyond 11?
Yeah beyond charts tend to be more gimmicky and the arc range is larger
@@SpeedyStyle thanks for telling me
Fracture Ray for me BC my first Track Complete in my modded app
Abstruse Dilemma is the easiest, like a lot easier, followed by Saikyou Stronger, World Ender, and Fracture Ray
Aegle is the hardest FTR11, or even hardest 11 except Tempestissimo for me
If I rate 11s from the easiest to hardest:
Grievous Lady
Saikyo Stronger
World Ender
Ab Dilemma
Vicious []
Arghena
Pragmatism
Petiment
Fracture Ray
Arcana Eden
AEGLESEEKER
Tempestissimo
I wish to have the same skill as you to put Fracture Ray as harder than Pentiment!
@@Giratina_br really, lmao. Fracture Ray being harder than literal PENTIMENT is WILD.
@@ga14th_d05 they probably hate arcs at this point
@@Giratina_br Fracture Ray's arcs ain't even that hard 😭. Not only that but they really just went and put Aegle at second hardest 11, which is even wilder. Harder than fricking Arcana Eden and Pentiment lol
@@ga14th_d05 An opinion is an opinion, i ain't arguing with that, as i also struggle with Aegleseeker 💀. But yeah i kinda do think the same for Fracture Ray, it is really easy.
Vicious Anti Heroism is definitely the easiest 11
While Aegelseeker and Abstruse Dilemma a little bit harder
Saikyo Stronger is the hardest FTR 11 for me
Hardest *easy* FTR 11?
Saikyo is nothing compared to the likes of Tempestissimo,Arcana Eden and Pentiment.
(i hate pentiment)
Vicious is the third easiest for me. Second is pragmatism, then grievous
@@tbcmomotaroThose are BYD 11
@@GoldenChen_screen_recording so is vicious
And prag
하지만 11렙은 결국 어렵죠
easiest 11?? the first one I beat. which was grievous lady
For me it’s GL lol, I almost have an EX+ on that chart, granted I have not played Aegleseeker or Abtruse dilemma. Personally I think the difference between the easiest and hardest 11 is massive tho.
I think grievious lady is the easiest
Abtruse Dilemma is definitely the hardest FTR 11 imo, not the easiest. The one I thought that is the easiest in the game is Grievous Lady, or in this video, Aegleseeker
SAIKYO STRONGER IS EASIEST
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Aegleseeker is the only problem that people keep struggling with...
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Emoji, who is also crazy today lol😂
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