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I find it kind of weird that PENTIMENT has a lower score than Testify for me, it’s just the end after the first 6 lane notes that destroy my stamina. I’ve found plenty of ways to cheese some parts in Testify so maybe I should try and do the same for pentiment.
@@maxnolife_ it's because there's no breaks or anything. In testify there's a lot of sections that you can get like 300 notes by just doing hold notes, Pentiment doesn't have that and just wants to murder you throughout the entire song
Difficulty Face Indicators Easy = Something on FTR 7 Normal = Something on 8 to 9 Hard = Something on 9.1 to 9+ Harder = 9+ to 10 Insane = 10 Demon = 10+ to 11 Extreme Demon = 11 to 11+ Extreme Demon (Long term) = 11 to 12
it’s a close race between tempest and penti imo. it’s tough to choose the hardest since both have different things that make it harder than others, like pentiment with those sdvx arcs and the many four holds, whilst tempest has some very difficult jacks and patterns combined with the high bpm that could make it easy to easy clear, but a pain to have a good accuracy. they’re both pain and it’s tough to choose the hardest from the two lmao
Idk man, when it went Epic Extreme demon at the end I was, firstly, laughing my ass off, and secondly, was questioning wether pertinent had that tho with time the community will come to a conclusion. Right now tempest has more consistent Insane Difficulty, and a few demons as well as an Extreme demon. Pertinent has more demon sections but less insanes,, so it's really on the fence.
Pentiment is definitely the hardest to play in my perspective, with its VERY uncomfortable to read patterns and that doubles / trails spam at the beginning... The other reason (for me, at least) could be mindblock, i played it wayyyy too much before actually getting better after i purchased most packs (f2p player loses it after 4.0) As for other ones, Tempestissmo would sit right at second place with its very speedy nature and Arcana Eden being the easiest of three (not to say its easy...)
my personal order: *3. Arcana Eden -* The shear amount of technicality and knowledge about the game’s mechanics required shouldn’t be understated. People thought this was the final song of the pack, until they found out Testify a day later. (Personal CC: 11.4) *2. Tempestissimo -* Still standing very strong as the 3rd hardest song in the game. Contains many fast sections and a stupid ending. (Personal CC: 11.6) *1. Pentiment -* The 6k sections aren’t as hard as Arcana Eden’s, but that’s not what makes this chart hard. While Tempestissimo has harder spikes, Pentiment is just really hard all the way through. Besides Testify, this is probably the most stamina draining chart in the game. (Personal CC: 11.6) and just for fun here’s every 11 ranked from easiest to hardest (the CC’s next to them are my personal rankings and not the correct ones) *9. Pragmatism Resurrection (11.0)* (not too hard once you get used to the gimmicks. Probably the hardest 11 to unlock) *8. Saikyo Stronger (11.0)* (incredibly stamina draining, but feels more like a 10+ in some sections.) *7. Aegleseeker (11.1)* (I used to think this was one of the hardest, but that was because I’ve had bad habits when doing the chart and messed up in the same spots most of the time) *6. Grievous Lady (11.1)* (the OG Arcaea boss song. Still holds up) *5. Fracture Ray (11.1)* (while GL is harder for clearing, this song is harder for scoring, due to the wacky polyrhythmic parts) *4. World Ender (11.2)* (despite it being thumb player friendly, you’ll need a lot of persistence) *3. Arcana Eden (11.4)* *2. Tempestissimo (11.6)* *1. Pentiment (11.6)*
It seems to really be a battle between pentiment and tempest. I find it hard to decide objectively. However, for thumb players like me pentiment is definetly harder, because some of the hardest parts can be mutlifingered to be easier. I think both pentiment and tempest should be 11.8
What I think is... Pentiment should be 11.9, Arcana Eden should be 11.7, Testify should be 11.8 and Tempestissimo 12.0, that is at least what I think... I don't know what is up with me but getting EX+ on Testify feels like effortless while I still cannot get EX+ on Tempestissimo even once
@@atthespeedbeyondlight9341 yea my testify score is above both pentiment and tempest. I'd imagine testify might be harder to pm because of its length and sheer amount of notes. I definetly think it is easier to score though.
@@markmerchant6467 Ik Testify is definitely harder to PM for its "hexa-tuplets"; however, that does not mean it is hard to play, it is so easy to upscore compared to Pentiment and Tempestissimo.
Testament is just way easier to play for score in because of the sheer amount of notes in the chart, i think it was around 2000ish area and tempest was around 1500. Testify is definitely harder as a map, but just easier to score.
For PM: Arcana Eden > Tempestissimo > Pentiment For scoring: Tempestissimo > Pentiment > Arcana Eden For clear: Tempestissimo = Pentiment > Arcana Eden
If I were to choose what would be the hardest 11, that goes to Arcana Eden. You were right to say that AE is the combination of GR and FR. There are a bunch of patterns that has the difficult reading and speed of GR and the accuracy and arc movement of FR. Not to mention that some patterns rob as much stamina as Tempestissimo, perhaps even more.
personally think pentiment should be a 12, its more difficult throughout the entire map unlike tempestissimo wich is impossibly difficult only near the end
I'd have to say pentiment.. though arcaea eden and tempestissimo are both walking fortresses which you do not want to cross paths with unless your some insane sweat (or like me just enjoys hard rhythm game songs/maps). I just think pentiment is on a whole different level then the other two! if you have a different opinion then GFY! the difficulty in songs is very subjective but to me the hardest song to clear is memoryfactory.lzh- I JUST CANT I DONT KNOW WHY-
It's either Pentiment or Tempest imo For me , Pentiment is easier than Tempest despite it has 6 Lane part and weird arcs , it actually easy to handle but for Tempest I just can't handle the stamina-depleting stream at the beginning it's so hard to maintain stamina for the whole song
I think the answer is definitely pentiment. There is a 200,000 point difference between the pent and tempest in my scores. (Pentiment: 9 633 838 Tempestissimo: 9 829 252)
in my opinion, tempestissimo is still the hardest by a long shot. it is by far the most stamina draining chart in the game as the chart constantly bombards you with 231 bpm 16th streams. the chart has little to no break sections so you have to proceed to each part of the chart while already tired and stamina drained. and dont even get me started on that 16th + 32th stream endkill lol. all in all id say this chart is above pentiment in terms of difficulty and imo this is the 2nd hardest chart next to testify.
in my opinion id say pentiment because my main strength is stamina so i can keep up with tempestissimo, and tempestissimo’s ending with 16th and 32ths can easily be hit by doing 4k on it (unless u cant) i have an EX on tempestissimo but i can barely AA pentiment
Pentiment is by far the hardest!! As a thumb player I can say that Pentiment is the hardest 11 since it's very underated somehow being a 11.4 which is the same as Arcana Eden??? Pentiment should totally be an 11+ of a chart constant of 11.9
Keep in mind that it's a thumb unfriendly chart. I am a thumb player too and hardest parts for thumb players can be multi fingered. I find testify easier but I think it is largely that even the 4 holds are fit for thumb players well.
Imo, pentiment is harder than tempest. For tempest I took around 3 days to normal clear it while I havent cleared pentiment yet. While tempest is a speed + pattern level, there arnt any complex arcs that needs prolonged crosshanding and mainly relies on closely packed notes+sky notes that are hard to read as they all come in at the same time. While pentiment is also a speed+pattern level, it has quite a few crosshanding sections accompanied by patterns that require you to switch hand positions really fast, although it dosent have the compact notes tempest has, it makes up for it with the sky note pattern at 4:21 and the rush at 5:13, not to mention the 6 lanes which would take a few plays to get used to. Pentiment also saps more stamina then tempest from my experience. Edit: I also noticed that its easier to follow the rhythm for tempest than pentiment, although it has alot of jacks. They can be beaten by following the music
Around the beginning where you said insane before the Laur part, it's easier depending on how good your rhythm is. But overall I agree with the difficulty faces everywhere else
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Okay so i keep repeating watching the two BYD 11 which is Pentiment 11.4 and Tempestissimo 11.5 so that i would know how hard are these two exactly. From what i experience, playing these two BYD charts using both of my thumbs and index finger is a kind of experiment on which one is harder (for me at least). In order to know how i can tell which one is harder, so i decided to choose a partner with no skill (that should be Tairitsu- or who ever doesn't have a skill) and using both my thumbs and index fingers to play. On thumbs: BYD 11 (11.4) Pentiment on thumbs is a massive stamina draining due to the 6k and 4 inputs, especially with that SDVX part. When i tried it, i got C (8'767'356) on first try, and B (8'868'756) on second try. I was like 'that's almost an impossible for thumbs, like what...' and for the final try, i got A (9'287'851) which is kind of a jump score from B to A. I got the same grade on Testify and i said 'wow, this is almost a Testify, but simplified.' BYD 11 (11.5) Tempestissimo on thumbs, is not that bad, especially when you know all the note pattern. Tempestissimo had less arcs but more floor note pattern and skynote pattern. Since i know some of the input pattern of notes in Arcaea, i can clearly said 'Okay, this is fair enough for BYD 11' When i tried it, i got AA (9'585'477) on first try, and almost EX (9'766'856) on second try, but it basically test your endurance at this one because they said it has the Saikyo Stronger style in some parts which is basically the endurance test. On Index fingers: For Pentiment in index finger is 2x more easier than thumbs, but still hard of course because of the cross taps and 6k actions. When i played on my index finger, i got A (9'366'731) an upscore in thumbs, while on the second try, i got lucky somehow because i manage to get AA (9'681'248) on second try which is 330k addition tp the score. I be like 'And now its doable but still extremely hard, and my fingers hurt because of that'. This one should be the 11.5 or 11.6 in my own opinion to be honest. Tempestissimo on index finger is just a pure endurance, accuracy, and speed on index finger but pretty decent and fun when you know its note pattern. You don't need to worry about the arcs on this because it's a note-based and less arcs, i mean- its not that less, but they're on some parts, and they are just easier. I manage to get AA (9'626'541) on first try and for the second time, i finally get an EX (9'833'416) and that's pretty sure a score for index finger users. I don't understand why this is 11.5 but for my personal opinion, i think this is between 11.3 and 11.4. I can agree that this is hard for scoring, but clearing is much doable. Extra: BYD 11 (11.3) Arcana Eden for thumbs needs a precision of timings because this has more notes than the other 2 BYD 11's and it's actually really doable for both thumbs and index fingers. And i have to say 'this one is the same as Pragmatism -RESSURECTION- around difficulty'. And yes, very easy BYD 11. Its one of those easier ones. And for me, hands down to Pentiment if you ask me because i did brace myself to compare this two BYD 11's (Pentiment and Tempestissimo) on both Thumbs and Index finger for 4 days. Edit: Omg i didn't realize how long to read this and im sorry for that. :skull:
Pentiment actually gives you time to breathe and Tempestissimo doesn't, so Tempestissimo already won this fight. when in lore base, tempestissimo will always be next to testify cause it's what resembles them.
I have to say pentiment since even trying to normal clear the song is like hell. Sure arcana Eden is quite hard but it is easy for upscoring (I think) and tempestissimo is hard but clearable for me on the hard gauge.
Imo Arcana the easiest than Pentiment and Tempest, it feels like GL x FR remix so you get it For Pentiment, I add a little high rating than Saikyo for stamina draining chart just man, the drop always makes me exhausted. For Tempest, being the first Beyond diff with wacky silly pattern, it still confusing and *ANNOYING* even after 4.0 version So yeah, Tempest is the winner
All of them are so hard, but Pentiment is just imposible for me. It's a draining arm workout and sometimes I can't feel my upper arms and shoulders after playing (that sdvx like part is crazy :"")) I play on a 12,9 inch ipad
I think Pentiment and Tempestissimo are the average of each other (They are both the same rage level) Also request Arcaea's creator to plan and add new song: KING (by Kanaria) Edit: I fell like you're pretty rhythmed the Tempestissimo
personal for me world ender and pragmatism resurrectiom are both the easiest 11 for me, one has just arcs as its main difficulty, while the other is just plainly jack hell grievous lady and fracture ray depend on the player itself pentiment 3rd hardest because patterns are simple af, tho having a bad device can make it harder arcana eden is just techincally crazy, but tempest still holds on as the hardest for me, mainly because of the speed
I have to say it, there’s no way parts like 1:35 and 1:51 are insane/demon because it just very normal 1-3-1-3 trills and its definitely easier than the World Ender trills
Score doesn’t mean how hard a charting is. Its how difficult to pm, like testiment is definitely harder than the 11 maps, but is way easier to get score in because it has a lot of notes.
Arcana Eden: 은근히 정확도가 떨어지는데 클리어는 아크로 땜빵해서 쉬운 편 Tempestissimo: 극후반만 제외하면 클리어는 무난한 편 Pentiment: 의외로 박자는 정직한 편인데 정확도를 떨어뜨릴 정도로 체력을 잡아먹는 정도가 큼. 이게 왜 11.4인지…
This is a very hot take but I'm just gonna say it. Here is my personal top 3: 1. Tempestissimo (personal cc: 11.9) 2. Arcana Eden (personal cc: 11.7) 3. Pentiment (personal cc: 11.4) Explanations: Personally I think Pentiment is the easiest out of the three because of how many times i played this chart. This chart is known for its stamina-draining spam parts, which makes its cc rating understandably sense for me at least. Now that I've gotten used to this chart with my highest score being 9903957, I can pretty much EX this most of the time. --------------------------------- I put Arcana Eden on place 2 because of how mentally struggling it is for me. I've heard that the chart was supposed to be easy to score because of the giant ass note count, but it was a whole new story for me. The arc part at note 900 become almost deficient to play there's so many cross hand parts compared to Pentiment and the last 6k part is just straight up bad. Of course I wasn't supposed to expect this chart to be super hard but I just think it deserves a higher cc rating. Arcana Eden is the only 11 right now I haven't EX+ed yet, with a score of 9896k. --------------------------------- I obviously put Tempestissimo at no.1 because... come on. It's fast paced, most parts are either confusing or stamina-draining and the last part is already fitting enough to be an 11+. Honestly I was going to place this below Arcana Eden, but as I played this chart more and more, I realised I can't EX it once anymore. I did manage to get an EX+ with a score of 9903997, but that's just because I pulled out a giant pot of luck. This is the hardest 11 and will always be... until another 11 comes out that's harder than Tempestissimo. UPDATE: I EX+'ED ARCANA BYD LET'S GOOOOOO!!! With a score of 9912987. Did that change anything. No. I still think it's harder than Pentiment, even though it's now my highest score. Kind of a hot take ig.
IMO I still think tempest is by far the hardest its patterns are plain uncomfortable, and it relies on basically every skill in the game arcana is just that one arc part at 2:00 and some random difficult bursts penti is mostly just aim and stamina, and as someone who personally excels in stamina, it's just the arcs that i'm horrible at 1. temp 2. arcana 3. penti
Well for me, pentiment is the easiest, probably because i am not a thumb player, tho i agree that it is as hard as tempestissimo. Pentiment is also fun for me. Tempestissimo, even after playing it for long long time, still pisses me off. The chart is just way too aggressive and very tiring. Arcana eden feels so stupid for me lol. That nitro's lost civilization byd or last celebration random notes and toaster's aggressive arcs are the only things that made me unable to clear it. I dont know if im just bad or the chart is shit. Most likely im the one who is bad. (I got 11.4 ptt btw) So, for me: pentiment>arcana eden>tempestissimo
Personally, Arcana Eden is easiest, Tempestissimo is hardest to clear because the end is 10× harder than anything else in the level, but Pentiment is hardest in overall difficulty.
I wonder if the Devs and charters would make eternity difficulty to these songs? These songs can be in 14-16 in difficulty if they can. I want to challenge those. Also, don't challenge yourself with two fingers in the tempest final part. Use four fingers for this.
So my opinion is 1, Pentiment The holy part is the number we must spam and especially the last part, it's way too hard to do it 2, Tempestisimo (I guess, my bad grammar), hard about the spam part 3, Arcana eden (the possible one I can play after 2,5 months for playing arcaea)
Personally opinion: (Note I got FC and BF in the same month) 3rd: Tempest. I'm better at jacking, but bad at reading notes. And for tempest, the patterns are easier to read and memorise. 2nd: Arcana Eden. Quite tricky, but I feel given more time it will get easier, and I'll get used to the gimmicks 1st: Pentiment. The speed is just really insane I still get forearm sores after each play. I'm also not very good at Crosshands.
So this is what i think ~Arcana Eden~ 1:501:55Insane 2:05 Demon 2:102:12Insane 2:18 Harder 3:06~3:18 All insane is harder 3:18~3:21 All demon is insane 3:38 demon 3:41 Extreme demon ~Pent~ 4:33 easy->harder 4:39~4:43 demon->harder 4:46 It is 22022 but not 22122 4:56 if you use 3fingers it is easier 5:15 HARD 5:24~5:30 rank-1 5:56 harder 6:27 HARD ~Temp~ 7:20 Insane 7:36 Insane 7:46 Harder 7:51 I use 6 fingers here lol 8:00 Insane 8:08 Harder(Infinity Hellven) 8:37 Insane->Harder 8:48 Demon->Insane
I can get ex in pentiment if I’m very good, I used to get consecutive AAs on Tempestissmo before I took a break, Now I suck at it. Tempestissmo is a great Beyond 11, but Arcaea Eden has to be the hardest imo
Among these three I think it should be Pentiment>AE>Temp cuz among these three I only unlocked Tempestissimo (and even get an EX grade) while the other two are still locked:( but the first 1/5 of AE seems not so hard......
Do "which one is the hardest future 11?" Just put all 4 future 11s in there. My opinion for future 11 difficuly 4. Aegleseeker (3-0) (9'991) 3. Grievous Lady (5-0) (9'984) 2. Saikyo Stronger (5-0) (9'983) 1. Fracture Ray (7-1) (9'965)
Others: I got worst score on Pentiment and Arcana eden is not that hard Me: having the highest score on Tempestissimo among these three, having the highest score on Pentiment among the lastest 4 byd and my score on Arcana is the worst besides Testify 🙃
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I'm actually horrible at Pentiment, it's like millions away/ lower from my second lowest score ( testify )
My testify is higher than pentiment lol (I mean byd
@@arcaea8701 same
I find it kind of weird that PENTIMENT has a lower score than Testify for me, it’s just the end after the first 6 lane notes that destroy my stamina. I’ve found plenty of ways to cheese some parts in Testify so maybe I should try and do the same for pentiment.
@@maxnolife_ it's because there's no breaks or anything. In testify there's a lot of sections that you can get like 300 notes by just doing hold notes, Pentiment doesn't have that and just wants to murder you throughout the entire song
@@Vyro-g12 most of the time its just because pentiment trashes anyone with cheap device
i find tempestissimo harder for me
I have to say Pentiment, literally haven't even been able to hikari pass it yet can easily pass(compared to) tempestissimo and arcana.
I agree, Pentiment is required much more stamina and accuracy than tempest or saikyo
@Eclipse32_ i got you🤝
Difficulty Face Indicators
Easy = Something on FTR 7
Normal = Something on 8 to 9
Hard = Something on 9.1 to 9+
Harder = 9+ to 10
Insane = 10
Demon = 10+ to 11
Extreme Demon = 11 to 11+
Extreme Demon (Long term) = 11 to 12
its personal
it’s a close race between tempest and penti imo. it’s tough to choose the hardest since both have different things that make it harder than others, like pentiment with those sdvx arcs and the many four holds, whilst tempest has some very difficult jacks and patterns combined with the high bpm that could make it easy to easy clear, but a pain to have a good accuracy. they’re both pain and it’s tough to choose the hardest from the two lmao
Idk man, when it went Epic Extreme demon at the end I was, firstly, laughing my ass off, and secondly, was questioning wether pertinent had that tho with time the community will come to a conclusion. Right now tempest has more consistent Insane Difficulty, and a few demons as well as an Extreme demon. Pertinent has more demon sections but less insanes,, so it's really on the fence.
If my talk confuses you then that's the Geometry dash terms I used.
Pentiment is definitely the hardest to play in my perspective, with its VERY uncomfortable to read patterns and that doubles / trails spam at the beginning... The other reason (for me, at least) could be mindblock, i played it wayyyy too much before actually getting better after i purchased most packs (f2p player loses it after 4.0)
As for other ones, Tempestissmo would sit right at second place with its very speedy nature and Arcana Eden being the easiest of three (not to say its easy...)
my personal order:
*3. Arcana Eden -* The shear amount of technicality and knowledge about the game’s mechanics required shouldn’t be understated. People thought this was the final song of the pack, until they found out Testify a day later. (Personal CC: 11.4)
*2. Tempestissimo -* Still standing very strong as the 3rd hardest song in the game. Contains many fast sections and a stupid ending. (Personal CC: 11.6)
*1. Pentiment -* The 6k sections aren’t as hard as Arcana Eden’s, but that’s not what makes this chart hard. While Tempestissimo has harder spikes, Pentiment is just really hard all the way through. Besides Testify, this is probably the most stamina draining chart in the game. (Personal CC: 11.6)
and just for fun here’s every 11 ranked from easiest to hardest (the CC’s next to them are my personal rankings and not the correct ones)
*9. Pragmatism Resurrection (11.0)* (not too hard once you get used to the gimmicks. Probably the hardest 11 to unlock)
*8. Saikyo Stronger (11.0)* (incredibly stamina draining, but feels more like a 10+ in some sections.)
*7. Aegleseeker (11.1)* (I used to think this was one of the hardest, but that was because I’ve had bad habits when doing the chart and messed up in the same spots most of the time)
*6. Grievous Lady (11.1)* (the OG Arcaea boss song. Still holds up)
*5. Fracture Ray (11.1)* (while GL is harder for clearing, this song is harder for scoring, due to the wacky polyrhythmic parts)
*4. World Ender (11.2)* (despite it being thumb player friendly, you’ll need a lot of persistence)
*3. Arcana Eden (11.4)*
*2. Tempestissimo (11.6)*
*1. Pentiment (11.6)*
Is Prag really hard to get? It just takes a long time to do. Obviously some PTT decrease aswell.
imo aegleseeker is harder then arcana eden
@@dark____ is this a joke xD
@@neko_loveramenxd6155 no
aegleseeker is harder then arcana and is also the hardest ftr 11 by far
@@dark____ are you sure
It seems to really be a battle between pentiment and tempest. I find it hard to decide objectively. However, for thumb players like me pentiment is definetly harder, because some of the hardest parts can be mutlifingered to be easier. I think both pentiment and tempest should be 11.8
What I think is... Pentiment should be 11.9, Arcana Eden should be 11.7, Testify should be 11.8 and Tempestissimo 12.0, that is at least what I think... I don't know what is up with me but getting EX+ on Testify feels like effortless while I still cannot get EX+ on Tempestissimo even once
@@atthespeedbeyondlight9341 yea my testify score is above both pentiment and tempest. I'd imagine testify might be harder to pm because of its length and sheer amount of notes. I definetly think it is easier to score though.
@@markmerchant6467 Ik Testify is definitely harder to PM for its "hexa-tuplets"; however, that does not mean it is hard to play, it is so easy to upscore compared to Pentiment and Tempestissimo.
Testament is just way easier to play for score in because of the sheer amount of notes in the chart, i think it was around 2000ish area and tempest was around 1500. Testify is definitely harder as a map, but just easier to score.
@@artimesium probably because of the sheer amount of 4 holds in the song lol
For PM: Arcana Eden > Tempestissimo > Pentiment
For scoring: Tempestissimo > Pentiment > Arcana Eden
For clear: Tempestissimo = Pentiment > Arcana Eden
Agreed but i think for score at more than almost 9.9m pts arcana is harder than pentiment (i decided by only my play)
Imma be for real
I'm close to nearing to EX Arcana and Pentiment
Tempestissimo is just different
and it's the first beyond 11, you know it's going to have some wack patterns lol
i've already ex pentiment and arcana eden byd
and i still haven't ex tempestisssimo byd
tempestissimo is just bruh
I literally ex’ed testify and tempes but i cannot do the pentiment thing i mean i ex’ed on byd diff
Tempest Should be BYD 12 too lmao... Or at least 11+
Bcuz tempest is actually on par with testify for PM
If I were to choose what would be the hardest 11, that goes to Arcana Eden.
You were right to say that AE is the combination of GR and FR. There are a bunch of patterns that has the difficult reading and speed of GR and the accuracy and arc movement of FR. Not to mention that some patterns rob as much stamina as Tempestissimo, perhaps even more.
Tempest is faster but pertiment is just so stamina draining for me it's like impossible
personally think pentiment should be a 12, its more difficult throughout the entire map unlike tempestissimo wich is impossibly difficult only near the end
Tempestissimo still is something that were a beast for 2 years, i can normal clear the other two and messed up tempest even with easy gauge lmao
i think tempestissimo is still the hardest 11 besause of it doesn't have rest in the whole song
I mean... the few seconds before the 4hold?
I love how temestissimo just turns to epic extreme demon at the end I just find it very funny as a GD player.
I'd have to say pentiment.. though arcaea eden and tempestissimo are both walking fortresses which you do not want to cross paths with unless your some insane sweat (or like me just enjoys hard rhythm game songs/maps). I just think pentiment is on a whole different level then the other two! if you have a different opinion then GFY! the difficulty in songs is very subjective but to me the hardest song to clear is memoryfactory.lzh- I JUST CANT I DONT KNOW WHY-
What about dropdead? Pretty much same like memoryfactory.lzh
It's either Pentiment or Tempest imo
For me , Pentiment is easier than Tempest despite it has 6 Lane part and weird arcs , it actually easy to handle but for Tempest I just can't handle the stamina-depleting stream at the beginning it's so hard to maintain stamina for the whole song
I think the answer is definitely pentiment. There is a 200,000 point difference between the pent and tempest in my scores.
(Pentiment: 9 633 838
Tempestissimo: 9 829 252)
I had full normal gauge on both arcana eden and pentiment... tempestissimo is just very hard for me. I still think it's the hardest 11 now
in my opinion, tempestissimo is still the hardest by a long shot.
it is by far the most stamina draining chart in the game as the chart constantly bombards you with 231 bpm 16th streams. the chart has little to no break sections so you have to proceed to each part of the chart while already tired and stamina drained. and dont even get me started on that 16th + 32th stream endkill lol.
all in all id say this chart is above pentiment in terms of difficulty and imo this is the 2nd hardest chart next to testify.
Agreed
in my opinion id say pentiment because my main strength is stamina so i can keep up with tempestissimo, and tempestissimo’s ending with 16th and 32ths can easily be hit by doing 4k on it (unless u cant)
i have an EX on tempestissimo but i can barely AA pentiment
Pentiment is by far the hardest!!
As a thumb player I can say that Pentiment is the hardest 11 since it's very underated somehow being a 11.4 which is the same as Arcana Eden???
Pentiment should totally be an 11+ of a chart constant of 11.9
Its should be harder for thumb player but acana eden is harder for me(my own perspective only)
@@neko_loveramenxd6155 literally most of the community agrees that pentiment is 11+
Keep in mind that it's a thumb unfriendly chart. I am a thumb player too and hardest parts for thumb players can be multi fingered. I find testify easier but I think it is largely that even the 4 holds are fit for thumb players well.
@@dark____ that why i said my own perspective only because I can easily get ex+ on pentiment
It should be 11.6 at the bare minimum i think
Imo, pentiment is harder than tempest. For tempest I took around 3 days to normal clear it while I havent cleared pentiment yet. While tempest is a speed + pattern level, there arnt any complex arcs that needs prolonged crosshanding and mainly relies on closely packed notes+sky notes that are hard to read as they all come in at the same time. While pentiment is also a speed+pattern level, it has quite a few crosshanding sections accompanied by patterns that require you to switch hand positions really fast, although it dosent have the compact notes tempest has, it makes up for it with the sky note pattern at 4:21 and the rush at 5:13, not to mention the 6 lanes which would take a few plays to get used to. Pentiment also saps more stamina then tempest from my experience.
Edit: I also noticed that its easier to follow the rhythm for tempest than pentiment, although it has alot of jacks. They can be beaten by following the music
Around the beginning where you said insane before the Laur part, it's easier depending on how good your rhythm is. But overall I agree with the difficulty faces everywhere else
요즘 로아에 빠져산다고 아르케아 게을리하다가 신팩 나왔단 말 듣고 어제 질러서 해금 중이라 잘 모르겠는데 기본적으로 템페스티시모가 등장할 때 임펙트는 가히 충격적이었음 근데 이번에도 해금 컷신이나 채보 기믹들 보면 존나 공 들인게 느껴지기도 한데 개인적으로 아크맵은 싫어하기도 하고 템페스티시모는 정말 보기만해도 넌 보스곡이구나라는게 딱 느껴져서 내 원탑은 템페스티시모임
Apparently Tempestissimo is still the hardest 11
Okay so i keep repeating watching the two BYD 11 which is Pentiment 11.4 and Tempestissimo 11.5 so that i would know how hard are these two exactly. From what i experience, playing these two BYD charts using both of my thumbs and index finger is a kind of experiment on which one is harder (for me at least).
In order to know how i can tell which one is harder, so i decided to choose a partner with no skill (that should be Tairitsu- or who ever doesn't have a skill) and using both my thumbs and index fingers to play.
On thumbs:
BYD 11 (11.4) Pentiment on thumbs is a massive stamina draining due to the 6k and 4 inputs, especially with that SDVX part. When i tried it, i got C (8'767'356) on first try, and B (8'868'756) on second try. I was like 'that's almost an impossible for thumbs, like what...' and for the final try, i got A (9'287'851) which is kind of a jump score from B to A. I got the same grade on Testify and i said 'wow, this is almost a Testify, but simplified.'
BYD 11 (11.5) Tempestissimo on thumbs, is not that bad, especially when you know all the note pattern. Tempestissimo had less arcs but more floor note pattern and skynote pattern. Since i know some of the input pattern of notes in Arcaea, i can clearly said 'Okay, this is fair enough for BYD 11' When i tried it, i got AA (9'585'477) on first try, and almost EX (9'766'856) on second try, but it basically test your endurance at this one because they said it has the Saikyo Stronger style in some parts which is basically the endurance test.
On Index fingers:
For Pentiment in index finger is 2x more easier than thumbs, but still hard of course because of the cross taps and 6k actions. When i played on my index finger, i got A (9'366'731) an upscore in thumbs, while on the second try, i got lucky somehow because i manage to get AA (9'681'248) on second try which is 330k addition tp the score. I be like 'And now its doable but still extremely hard, and my fingers hurt because of that'. This one should be the 11.5 or 11.6 in my own opinion to be honest.
Tempestissimo on index finger is just a pure endurance, accuracy, and speed on index finger but pretty decent and fun when you know its note pattern. You don't need to worry about the arcs on this because it's a note-based and less arcs, i mean- its not that less, but they're on some parts, and they are just easier. I manage to get AA (9'626'541) on first try and for the second time, i finally get an EX (9'833'416) and that's pretty sure a score for index finger users. I don't understand why this is 11.5 but for my personal opinion, i think this is between 11.3 and 11.4. I can agree that this is hard for scoring, but clearing is much doable.
Extra:
BYD 11 (11.3) Arcana Eden for thumbs needs a precision of timings because this has more notes than the other 2 BYD 11's and it's actually really doable for both thumbs and index fingers. And i have to say 'this one is the same as Pragmatism -RESSURECTION- around difficulty'. And yes, very easy BYD 11. Its one of those easier ones.
And for me, hands down to Pentiment if you ask me because i did brace myself to compare this two BYD 11's (Pentiment and Tempestissimo) on both Thumbs and Index finger for 4 days.
Edit: Omg i didn't realize how long to read this and im sorry for that. :skull:
Pentiment actually gives you time to breathe and Tempestissimo doesn't, so Tempestissimo already won this fight.
when in lore base, tempestissimo will always be next to testify cause it's what resembles them.
However Tempestissimo patterns are not as stamina draining as Pentiment
I have to say pentiment since even trying to normal clear the song is like hell. Sure arcana Eden is quite hard but it is easy for upscoring (I think) and tempestissimo is hard but clearable for me on the hard gauge.
Imo Arcana the easiest than Pentiment and Tempest, it feels like GL x FR remix so you get it
For Pentiment, I add a little high rating than Saikyo for stamina draining chart just man, the drop always makes me exhausted.
For Tempest, being the first Beyond diff with wacky silly pattern, it still confusing and *ANNOYING* even after 4.0 version
So yeah, Tempest is the winner
에덴 : 개박을 넘은 괴박
펜티 : SOUND VOLTEX EXCEED GEAR
템페 : 반갑네 소년, 난 노트폭풍이라 하네!
대체 어케 뽑습니까;;;
사운드 볼텍스 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
All of them are so hard, but Pentiment is just imposible for me. It's a draining arm workout and sometimes I can't feel my upper arms and shoulders after playing (that sdvx like part is crazy :""))
I play on a 12,9 inch ipad
Pentiment is straightforward. Tempestissimo is a trainwreck.
4:54 wtf it got teeth
WTF I just casually dropped a 9'955 on Penti in one attempt after not playing it for a long time.
Wtf I improved it further to a 9'964
and also improved Arcana Eden to a 9'969
I like how you're using Geometry Dash difficulty faces
I think Pentiment and Tempestissimo are the average of each other (They are both the same rage level)
Also request Arcaea's creator to plan and add new song: KING (by Kanaria)
Edit: I fell like you're pretty rhythmed the Tempestissimo
For thumb players pentiment is by far the hardest BYD 11 💀
personal for me
world ender and pragmatism resurrectiom are both the easiest 11 for me, one has just arcs as its main difficulty, while the other is just plainly jack hell
grievous lady and fracture ray depend on the player itself
pentiment 3rd hardest because patterns are simple af, tho having a bad device can make it harder
arcana eden is just techincally crazy, but tempest still holds on as the hardest for me, mainly because of the speed
I have to say it, there’s no way parts like 1:35 and 1:51 are insane/demon because it just very normal 1-3-1-3 trills and its definitely easier than the World Ender trills
It’s harder than it looks
@@grimso2162 but it’s very easy for me
Tempestissimo BYD is definitely the hardest 11 imo.
It's the only 11 that I haven't EX yet.
Score doesn’t mean how hard a charting is. Its how difficult to pm, like testiment is definitely harder than the 11 maps, but is way easier to get score in because it has a lot of notes.
For me Pentiment is the only one I haven’t EX yet
6:07 Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
The difficulty face: 👹😃👹😃👹
Arcana Eden: 은근히 정확도가 떨어지는데 클리어는 아크로 땜빵해서 쉬운 편
Tempestissimo: 극후반만 제외하면 클리어는 무난한 편
Pentiment: 의외로 박자는 정직한 편인데 정확도를 떨어뜨릴 정도로 체력을 잡아먹는 정도가 큼. 이게 왜 11.4인지…
Amazing gameplay that made my friends eyes hurt but it would look notmal to me
Not all of them,Fracture Ray might be the hardest from my perspective... I am weak in hand position.
Tempestissimo still hardest 11 ever and ever
ofc the last drop part very hard to hold the combo
This is a very hot take but I'm just gonna say it. Here is my personal top 3:
1. Tempestissimo (personal cc: 11.9)
2. Arcana Eden (personal cc: 11.7)
3. Pentiment (personal cc: 11.4)
Explanations:
Personally I think Pentiment is the easiest out of the three because of how many times i played this chart. This chart is known for its stamina-draining spam parts, which makes its cc rating understandably sense for me at least. Now that I've gotten used to this chart with my highest score being 9903957, I can pretty much EX this most of the time.
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I put Arcana Eden on place 2 because of how mentally struggling it is for me. I've heard that the chart was supposed to be easy to score because of the giant ass note count, but it was a whole new story for me. The arc part at note 900 become almost deficient to play there's so many cross hand parts compared to Pentiment and the last 6k part is just straight up bad. Of course I wasn't supposed to expect this chart to be super hard but I just think it deserves a higher cc rating. Arcana Eden is the only 11 right now I haven't EX+ed yet, with a score of 9896k.
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I obviously put Tempestissimo at no.1 because... come on. It's fast paced, most parts are either confusing or stamina-draining and the last part is already fitting enough to be an 11+. Honestly I was going to place this below Arcana Eden, but as I played this chart more and more, I realised I can't EX it once anymore. I did manage to get an EX+ with a score of 9903997, but that's just because I pulled out a giant pot of luck. This is the hardest 11 and will always be... until another 11 comes out that's harder than Tempestissimo.
UPDATE: I EX+'ED ARCANA BYD LET'S GOOOOOO!!! With a score of 9912987. Did that change anything. No. I still think it's harder than Pentiment, even though it's now my highest score. Kind of a hot take ig.
IMO I still think tempest is by far the hardest
its patterns are plain uncomfortable, and it relies on basically every skill in the game
arcana is just that one arc part at 2:00 and some random difficult bursts
penti is mostly just aim and stamina, and as someone who personally excels in stamina, it's just the arcs that i'm horrible at
1. temp
2. arcana
3. penti
Info: Arcana Eden means Secret Garden
정보: 아케나 에덴은 영어로 비밀의 정원입니당
클리어 난이도는 아르카나 에덴이 가장 높은 거 같고
풀콤은 템페스티시모가 가장 어려운 거 같네요
it looks arcana eden was a copy of grievous lady, but yea its either tempest or pentiment
Well for me, pentiment is the easiest, probably because i am not a thumb player, tho i agree that it is as hard as tempestissimo. Pentiment is also fun for me. Tempestissimo, even after playing it for long long time, still pisses me off. The chart is just way too aggressive and very tiring. Arcana eden feels so stupid for me lol. That nitro's lost civilization byd or last celebration random notes and toaster's aggressive arcs are the only things that made me unable to clear it. I dont know if im just bad or the chart is shit. Most likely im the one who is bad. (I got 11.4 ptt btw)
So, for me: pentiment>arcana eden>tempestissimo
I still find tempestissimo as the hardest level
Personally, Arcana Eden is easiest, Tempestissimo is hardest to clear because the end is 10× harder than anything else in the level, but Pentiment is hardest in overall difficulty.
I wonder if the Devs and charters would make eternity difficulty to these songs? These songs can be in 14-16 in difficulty if they can. I want to challenge those.
Also, don't challenge yourself with two fingers in the tempest final part. Use four fingers for this.
Wouldn’t bet on it. Though in the future we may be expecting eternal 11s
I would love there to be an eternal for sheriruth since it doesn’t get much love with harder difficulties.
i couldnt more agree with this1:50 and 1:55 triplet-sky one floor combo being a fucking demon difficulty
The invisible face meter killed me 😂
So my opinion is
1, Pentiment
The holy part is the number we must spam and especially the last part, it's way too hard to do it
2, Tempestisimo (I guess, my bad grammar), hard about the spam part
3, Arcana eden (the possible one I can play after 2,5 months for playing arcaea)
lol i see you have improved so much
keep it up sir
판정작 보스: 템페스트
초견살: 에든
전체적 난이도: 펜티먼트
아르카나 에덴이랑 펜티먼트는 겨우겨우 익플 따냈는데도 비템은... 각도 안 보여서 개인적으로 비템이 아직은 11렙 최상위지 않나... 하는 생각이
위에 두 곡은 어떻게든 이을 수는 있는데 비템 최후반은 여전히 모르겠네용
익플이요??? 대박...
Personally opinion: (Note I got FC and BF in the same month)
3rd: Tempest. I'm better at jacking, but bad at reading notes. And for tempest, the patterns are easier to read and memorise.
2nd: Arcana Eden. Quite tricky, but I feel given more time it will get easier, and I'll get used to the gimmicks
1st: Pentiment. The speed is just really insane I still get forearm sores after each play. I'm also not very good at Crosshands.
As of now, I'd swap tempest and arcana eden.
오늘 Pentiment 해금해서 연습 중인데, 6:05 부분에서 멘탈 터져서 이 챕터는 그냥 포기하고 싶어졌습니다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
my thumbs will cry to those three💀
Pentiment 빼고 다 깼는데 셋 중에 Tempestissimo가 제일 쉬운 것 같기도..
What's the hardest single section in all of Arcaea? Is it the Tempestissimo ending? Or maybe the end of Testify?
My heart says tempistissimo but my fingers say pentiment
셋다 어렵긴 한데...일단 전 아르카나를 고르겠습니다
So this is what i think
~Arcana Eden~
1:50 1:55Insane
2:05 Demon 2:10 2:12Insane
2:18 Harder
3:06~3:18 All insane is harder
3:18~3:21 All demon is insane
3:38 demon
3:41 Extreme demon
~Pent~
4:33 easy->harder
4:39~4:43 demon->harder
4:46 It is 22022 but not 22122
4:56 if you use 3fingers it is easier
5:15 HARD
5:24~5:30 rank-1
5:56 harder
6:27 HARD
~Temp~
7:20 Insane
7:36 Insane
7:46 Harder
7:51 I use 6 fingers here lol
8:00 Insane
8:08 Harder(Infinity Hellven)
8:37 Insane->Harder
8:48 Demon->Insane
Uh but for i think Pragmatism is the hardest 11
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25
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셋 중 두개 하드클(템페, 펜티), 하나 EX(펜티)
I can get an AA in pentiment one day but rank B track lost the next day
I would say...
1. Tempestissimo
2. Pentiment
3. Arcana Eden
4동타도 많이 없고 6레인도 없는데 펜티멘트, 에덴이랑 겨루는 템페스트는 도대체...
WE FINALLY GET THE VIDEO
I can get ex in pentiment if I’m very good, I used to get consecutive AAs on Tempestissmo before I took a break, Now I suck at it. Tempestissmo is a great Beyond 11, but Arcaea Eden has to be the hardest imo
It’s either I can get better on either song, Still Arcaea Eden for me
Bc I almost got EX in my best attempt in tempestissmo, and I haven’t gotten EX in both songs yet, so they might be equal as well.
still Tempestissimo, cuz it's an 11+ in disguise and idk why it has yet to be that in the game
man they gotta add 11+ because of pentiment..
Pentiment definitely, I have a 9.2 on testify but I still cant beat pentiment
개인적으론 이제 testify 같은 곡들 제외하면 채보가 눈에 보여서 피지컬이 문제인데, 그래서 그런지 pentiment가 제일 힘듭니다. 특히 체력 거의 다쓰고 나오는 직각 아크는 ㄹㅇ 개노답.....
on Arcaea Eden i actually have the best score of all of the byd11 charts
팔힘이랑 체력이 딸리는 포텐11따리는 펜티먼트가 제일 점수가 안 나오더라고요... 게다가 엄지유저 죽이는 곡..
Just realized that your difficult indicator in temp are different from your previous temp video
nerfed lol
@@SpeedyStyle more like skill improvement 😄
Somehow arcana eden and pentiment are both 11.4 while tempest is 11.5 which doesnt feel right
Among these three I think it should be Pentiment>AE>Temp cuz among these three I only unlocked Tempestissimo (and even get an EX grade) while the other two are still locked:(
but the first 1/5 of AE seems not so hard......
아르카나에덴하고 펜티멘트 둘다 하드클 후살이던데.. 특히 펜티가 아크 왔다갔다 손이 못따라가는..
tempestissimo는 많이해서 어렵다고 느끼진 않은데 손아픕니다
에덴 : PM + 세부판정 히히못해 시전하는 괴박곡. 하지만 거저주는 노트가많아서 스코어링은 쉬움
펜티 : 진짜 폭타곡이 뭔지보여주는 체력곡.
생각보다 박자가 정직해서 쉬운편이라고 생각
템페 : 11+
스코어링 기준 : 에덴 < 펜티 < 템페
풀콤 기준 : 에덴 < 펜티 = 템페
퓨메 기준 : 펜티 < 템페 < 에덴
펜티라 하니까 어감이 좀 그렇네요
예?? 비템이 11+요???
뉴비 : 전부 어려운데요
일반인 : 어케함
포텐 10.x : 될꺼 같은데
포텐 11.x : 될꺼 같은데
포텐 12.x : 왜 안됨
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Noob : its too hard
Normal : How
potential 10. : how
potential 11. : how?
potential 12 : why
가! 나는 내가 죽을 어려운 것들을 시험해보고 싶지 않을 것이다. 😭😂
as a 9.5ish pp free to play only player, arcane eden had already terrified me but holy molly.....it just got worse and worse
클리어만 보면 아르카나->템페->펜티인데 이론치, 퓨메만 보면 아르카나가 최강인거 같은
Do "which one is the hardest future 11?"
Just put all 4 future 11s in there.
My opinion for future 11 difficuly
4. Aegleseeker (3-0) (9'991)
3. Grievous Lady (5-0) (9'984)
2. Saikyo Stronger (5-0) (9'983)
1. Fracture Ray (7-1) (9'965)
지나가던 별텐 엄지 유저입니다. 딱히 가를 수가 없네요..
개박과 동타 폭격과 폭타라...
그나마 템페는 많이 해와서 익숙하죠
-???: 네가 어떤 패턴을 좋아할지 몰라서 다 넣어봤어!-
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
i vote for Pentiment because they faster double tapping also with 6k
well apparently everyone hates museo bc of pentiment
also you seem to have used the future tempest cover art
Others: I got worst score on Pentiment and Arcana eden is not that hard
Me: having the highest score on Tempestissimo among these three, having the highest score on Pentiment among the lastest 4 byd and my score on Arcana is the worst besides Testify 🙃
Me who got smacked by all: all are equal
Lol invisible notes on Pentiment. It should be illegal
Pentiment is still miles harder for me
I have a 9.3m on tempest and a 9.4m on arcana pentiment is just absurd
Tempestissimo는 노멀로도 못깨고 있어서 투표..
아르카나 복합 채보 처리력이 너무 넘사 ;;