I believe you have done that a time or too. Always been fascinated with springs. Perhaps I was a spring maker like yourself, in another life. Liked your spring Turner as well. Thanks
You are welcome Clyde , The turner is just the top end of a pedestal drill and where the belt pulley was - now is a handle. Hint: Study the wire catch , it is hand made with the same dia wire and coiled the same direction as the springs, so coil it first on a smaller mandrel and force it over the mandrel you use to make the springs.
when I think that back in the 80s we trashed our toys just because we weren't able to replace or make a new replacement spring . hey !! I remember cassettes players door too , when the spring was damaged you had to manually open it
It would be nice to learn what wire is required for that, and could you, e.g. «temper» or «harden» a soft wire to make it springworthy, and should it be before or after the bending. Thank you.
Would have been nice to see how you made the catch wire to hold stock in place. Nice setup. I have a bench grinder with Chuck at one end.Think I'll add a handle to the stone grinder side and it will double as my new wire bending tool...Thanks!
@@thespringguy1 There's NO mojo in your post except the holder. But you refused to give the trick. I won't subscribe to a channel where an oldie just displayed his makes. NO INTEREST at all!
Thank you for such a great and non-frightening video! Others make it seem you need a full pro workshop. I only need to make small springs, 1/8" - 1/4" diameter. What diameter piano wires should I use for each? One last thing, how do I finish the spring? You mentioned heat treating. What temperature and for how long? I read that piano wire is 'stress relieved' at 260℃ for 30 minutes. Is that correct?
Subscribed! If only people knew how useful making springs are. I am now doing this for my firearms especially ARs that have lots of springs. Thank you very much.
Hello thespringguy1, rcasprings I need your help: Can you make a video about making a really strong spring, like 1000N that is spiralled in on itself? Like a snail? Or like the springs in a vacuum cleaner that are used to roll up the cable but a lot stronger?
Thankyou for the question , a constant force spring is what i believe you are asking about.typically made using radial edge annealed flat spring material coiled either Over itself on a mandrel or deflected coiling on a cnc machine then its off to the heat treaters for tempering into full spring strength.
@@thespringguy1 I think that's close to it, yes. I was hoping it could be made with more torque towards the ende of its release. But this helped me already. Thank you very much.
1. U must put ur hand behind the spring to get ur camera focused onto the spring u just made! Or put the spring on a clean sheet of white paper 2. Can see the most important part of this video: The hook jig to start coiling a wire. 3. Just buy an appropriate diameter/gauge piano wire for the raw mat'l
Do you sell the mandrels and also the spring that holds the wire as it is formed on the mandrel? I can make the machine with an old drill chuck no problem. I’m looking to do 1 mm wire around a 6mm or so mandrel.
Thanks for the question , in the future I will do a vid on making the wire catch coils . Yes you can do with any round bar or even old drill bits for short springs. the wire catch spring is hand made on a smaller mandrel , then heat treated and later forced over your using mandrell. I have just posted a vid using 1mm wire on an 8mm mandrell for double torsion spring. The wire catch coil seen used at the start would have been made on a 7mm mandrell , then heat treated for strength, then forced over the 8mm mandrell bar.
Although not as impressive you could turn a spring around a nail if need be. Perhaps not as consistent but it can be done.... I do get the point though.
Yo spring guy, you ever wonder why its still smithing and not a formal trade? Its in hope that after the first 20 years of learning and honing the skill that most would understand that just the air temp, humidity, wire temp and mandrel speed change everything not to mention the endless pages of heat treating formula that we pride ouselves on not having to refer to.. do a love job or charge beer rate for a month but ffs Guy lets try to keep the backyard amputations to a minimum and not give "usefull info" to some joker with a Milwaukee
Very good, dont speak any word You teacheme to make spring very good. One day I will visit to You in Australia. Thankyou very much
I believe you have done that a time or too. Always been fascinated with springs. Perhaps I was a spring maker like yourself, in another life. Liked your spring Turner as well. Thanks
You are welcome Clyde , The turner is just the top end of a pedestal drill and where the belt pulley was - now is a handle.
Hint: Study the wire catch , it is hand made with the same dia wire and coiled the same direction as the springs, so coil it first on a smaller mandrel and force it over the mandrel you use to make the springs.
when I think that back in the 80s we trashed our toys just because we weren't able to replace or make a new replacement spring . hey !! I remember cassettes players door too , when the spring was damaged you had to manually open it
It would be nice to learn what wire is required for that, and could you, e.g. «temper» or «harden» a soft wire to make it springworthy, and should it be before or after the bending. Thank you.
Excellent information! Thank you for making this video!
Great! But what about hardening?
Thank you for sharing, it's very helpful
I thank you for your comment. I appreciate.
how are you makin this look way easier than it should be
Been doing it for over 35 years for a living.. so i guess it's just experience..thanks.
@@thespringguy1 oh nicee matey
thank you, now I can unwind a spring and make the ends longer
Would have been nice to see how you made the catch wire to hold stock in place. Nice setup. I have a bench grinder with Chuck at one end.Think I'll add a handle to the stone grinder side and it will double as my new wire bending tool...Thanks!
Yep...good idea
@@thespringguy1 There's NO mojo in your post except the holder. But you refused to give the trick. I won't subscribe to a channel where an oldie just displayed his makes. NO INTEREST at all!
@@joetkeshub Duh! Look at his other videos for that.
Very amazing
It would be helpful to know what you are using to grip the spring to the mandrel?
Is a wire catch as shown in other vids and even how to make it.
That is a very helpful thing to know! Churs!
What kind of wire do i have to use to make spring.
Thank you for such a great and non-frightening video! Others make it seem you need a full pro workshop. I only need to make small springs, 1/8" - 1/4" diameter. What diameter piano wires should I use for each?
One last thing, how do I finish the spring? You mentioned heat treating. What temperature and for how long? I read that piano wire is 'stress relieved' at 260℃ for 30 minutes. Is that correct?
Hi , such small springs would use 0.5mm to 0.7mm dia music wire . Your heat treat method is good 👍
@@thespringguy1 Thank you!
You made em but do they work?
I want to buy this machine
Great! subscribed.
Very useful
by hand, you say... hmmm....
Subscribed!
If only people knew how useful making springs are.
I am now doing this for my firearms especially ARs that have lots of springs.
Thank you very much.
How can I get stainless steel and chromo vanadium
Thanks for this idea, but still. What kind of wire that is used to make springs and it will spring
Music wire is the most common spring wire.
Thankß for your reply
what materials good for making spring?
Piano wire .
GREAT VIDEO.....................THANK YOU
You are welcome...my pleasure.
Hello thespringguy1, rcasprings I need your help: Can you make a video about making a really strong spring, like 1000N that is spiralled in on itself? Like a snail? Or like the springs in a vacuum cleaner that are used to roll up the cable but a lot stronger?
And is it possible to make springs retract in nonlinear resistance? So that the most force would be released towards the end?
Thankyou for the question , a constant force spring is what i believe you are asking about.typically made using radial edge annealed flat spring material coiled either
Over itself on a mandrel or deflected coiling on a cnc machine then its off to the heat treaters for tempering into full spring strength.
@@thespringguy1 I think that's close to it, yes. I was hoping it could be made with more torque towards the ende of its release. But this helped me already.
Thank you very much.
What wire should I use for making spring
Piano wires
What kind of wire is suitable?
0.8 mm music wire
What wire is that
From memory it was 0.8mm range2 sus304 spring wire
1. U must put ur hand behind the spring to get ur camera focused
onto the spring u just made! Or put the spring on a clean sheet of white
paper
2. Can see the most important part of this video:
The hook jig to start coiling a wire.
3. Just buy an appropriate diameter/gauge piano wire for the raw mat'l
what kind of wire are you using?
0.7mm stainless spring wire sus304
Thanks uncle
thankyou
Mind if I know the wire gauge? 🤔🤔🤔
0.71 mm
@@thespringguy1 thank you.👍👍
love
That's fast, that's really a lot faster than I can do it on my lathe.
Thanks...i prefer hand winders as shown...easier to count the winds.
Do you sell the mandrels and also the spring that holds the wire as it is formed on the mandrel? I can make the machine with an old drill chuck no problem. I’m looking to do 1 mm wire around a 6mm or so mandrel.
Thanks for the question , in the future I will do a vid on making the wire catch coils . Yes you can do with any round bar or even old drill bits for short springs. the wire catch spring is hand made on a smaller mandrel , then heat treated and later forced over your using mandrell.
I have just posted a vid using 1mm wire on an 8mm mandrell for double torsion spring.
The wire catch coil seen used at the start would have been made on a 7mm mandrell , then heat treated for strength, then forced over the 8mm mandrell bar.
@@thespringguy1 if you could do a full video on that it would be awesome.
>how to make springs by hand
>instantly shows a multi thousand dollar rotary lathe
And we will gladly sell you one for " multi thousand dollars "
Although not as impressive you could turn a spring around a nail if need be. Perhaps not as consistent but it can be done.... I do get the point though.
@@moonolyth you are correct....any round bar , including nails is ok.
Step 1: buy a lathe.
Just kidding. Thanks for making this. I can use a hand drill instead.
Yo spring guy, you ever wonder why its still smithing and not a formal trade?
Its in hope that after the first 20 years of learning and honing the skill that most would understand that just the air temp, humidity, wire temp and mandrel speed change everything not to mention the endless pages of heat treating formula that we pride ouselves on not having to refer to.. do a love job or charge beer rate for a month but ffs Guy lets try to keep the backyard amputations to a minimum and not give "usefull info" to some joker with a Milwaukee
Good point , you got me there..i guess showing an intellegent human how to bend wire is a bit over the top.....keep up the good work.
Don't you have to harden then temper them?