Fender Jazz Bass '77 VS Sire Marcus Miller V5

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @NotoriousOzTheMan
    @NotoriousOzTheMan 8 місяців тому +7

    Honestly, one of the best reviews comparing the Sire with a classic Fender Bass. No better way for us to be able to hear difference. If you're using the bass to record and go through a DI Box, you can make EQ adjustments or do EQ on the DAW to change the tone. If you're live, you can go through a Bass pedal and use EQ to find the ideal sound. You did great Obrad, thank you!

  • @TraceElliot42
    @TraceElliot42 8 місяців тому +15

    If money is not a problem, I pick the Fender in this video. If you consider the money, Sire is a crazy good deal for the quality.

  • @arlenvandersmagt5560
    @arlenvandersmagt5560 Рік тому +18

    I really like how he shows the different tone settings and plays the exact same bass lines on both basses….Drives me nuts when dudes compare basses and play totally different bass lines … makes it so hard to compare!!

  • @enricoviappiani4305
    @enricoviappiani4305 Рік тому +32

    The midrange growl of the fender is very present. Love it

  • @HvyMetal4Ever
    @HvyMetal4Ever 11 місяців тому +4

    The fact that you tested these by getting the Led out makes my respect for this video go up 10 fold. That tone you achieved with the Sire on Dazed was incredibly accurate. I really think I need to add one of these to the collection. And you just can't beat them for the price.

  • @MarkGerardBottomLine
    @MarkGerardBottomLine 8 місяців тому +7

    The Sire has no chance against the Godzilla of Basses, a 70's Fender Jazz bass

  • @iamgribs
    @iamgribs Рік тому +7

    The fender has more of a character and more "ping".
    Not to say sire sounds bad. Sire are awesome.
    I think if i had the sire i would change pickups.

  • @invisAG
    @invisAG 4 місяці тому +2

    This really shows how great Sires are for the money

  • @dirkjanklijn9949
    @dirkjanklijn9949 2 роки тому +17

    I honestly like the sound of the Fender better, it sounds more clear, the sire sounds a bit muffled to me.

    • @atrillado
      @atrillado Рік тому +3

      More vol on the mix and fixed. Sire rocks and funks.

  • @hanorokpony420
    @hanorokpony420 Рік тому +11

    The Fender has the edge in look and sound but those Marcus basses come damn close for much less money

  • @veintiocho.28
    @veintiocho.28 2 роки тому +10

    The V5 is amazing build, just a dream and incredible to play... under 500 Dollars..if you want, change the pickups to Area J .DiMarzio...to get near to the Fender 77... or.perhaps better..You can because the bones and build quality is outstanding for the price...Fender create this unique 70 sound .. amazing...Fabuloso !! Thank you for the soundcheck

    • @levondarratt787
      @levondarratt787 Рік тому

      not UNDER 500. it's 599 = 10% tax so 650.... no discounts given either. So don't troll...

  • @davidderosi5552
    @davidderosi5552 Рік тому +16

    No one would know how to distinguish them in a blind test, wonderful work Obrad! Sire did an amazing job with these basses. I have the 5-string v5 and it doesn't need any upgrade, it never goes out of tune and the pickups sound with an impressive mojo and growl!

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  Рік тому

      Thank You very much 👍

    • @radiantmind8729
      @radiantmind8729 Рік тому +1

      I can tell the difference between them even on my tiny iPad speaker.

    • @Moleskineman
      @Moleskineman 6 місяців тому

      @@radiantmind8729 lol okay, just like you can probably tell the difference between 320kbps MP3 and lossless audio

    • @hushpuppykl
      @hushpuppykl 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Moleskineman ... the Sire sound is brilliant for the price, very high value for money BUT the difference is very noticeable. If you can't distinguish it then tough luck. And yes, I own a '78 Jazz Bass.

    • @Moleskineman
      @Moleskineman 6 місяців тому

      @@hushpuppykl my guy is listening on a 2mm iPad speaker, there's no way he can tell the difference

  • @simonbowkett124
    @simonbowkett124 2 роки тому +32

    According to 'Reverb' a 77 Jazz goes for around 2750 to 5000 dollars. The Sire is 500 dollars. I have the Sire and a Fender Flea, and the pickups in the Sire are definitely a bit anemic .... but can easily be replaced. And it plays like a dream.

    • @Blakelysworld358
      @Blakelysworld358 2 роки тому +5

      even then that can be an appeal to amplification, cabinets, or pre-amp without messing with the voicing of the instrument. My Sire U5 is on the quiet side, for me I just found I had to eq it differently.

  • @barberq210
    @barberq210 Рік тому +18

    The Sire sounds good but the Fender is on a whole different level

  • @jonathanchevallier7046
    @jonathanchevallier7046 2 роки тому +9

    The fender have the growly side on his sound, the sire don't have or less. But in the mix can we notice that ? A very nice comparison ! Bravo ;-)

  • @joshmcdzz6925
    @joshmcdzz6925 2 роки тому +5

    You can't judge the true sound of either bass from what you just watched and heard because 1. they both have different strings ( which plays a major factor in the sound ) 2. age of instrument 3. amplication and eq etc... so this test is not really one you should base your decision by.

  • @JohnFossbass
    @JohnFossbass 7 місяців тому +3

    Sire sounds good but the Fender is simply better

  • @arlenvandersmagt5560
    @arlenvandersmagt5560 Рік тому +2

    I love how good the jazz sounds on the RAGE track….

  • @TheBartostock
    @TheBartostock 2 роки тому +12

    The Sire tone rolls off a lot more treble than the Fender! It's amazing!

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому +3

      I Agree. It looks like the sound is more similar with tone all the way on.

    • @TheBartostock
      @TheBartostock 2 роки тому +1

      @@ObraBass By the way, your mute looks interesting! Did you make it or buy it somewhere?

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому +1

      @@TheBartostock It’s just a piece of sponge from the pyramidal soundproof wall insulation

    • @TheBartostock
      @TheBartostock 2 роки тому

      @@ObraBass Wow, it looks like it's both above and below the strings- I guess it's just a thick piece!

  • @arlenvandersmagt5560
    @arlenvandersmagt5560 Рік тому +2

    It’s amazing how good the jazz sounds with tone on Zero!!! It’s awesome

  • @TLBJ24
    @TLBJ24 2 роки тому +8

    Excellent video and great playing! I own both basses and feel you did a great job showing them accurately. The Fender sounds richer, but for the money, the Sire is hands down the value for the money! I have basses that cost over $5k, but I proudly also own 4 Sire basses (V7 Vintage, P7, M7, & D5).

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому +2

      Thank You. It looks like we have similar taste...P Bass Postmodern and Sandberg

    • @emiel1928
      @emiel1928 Рік тому

      Hey man! Im looking for a new bass and I’m interested in Sire but I don’t really need the preamp most of them get built with. Volume and tone is enough for me really, the problem that I’m facing is the question: are the cheaper passive Sire basses from the same quality as the more expensive ones and are you really paying for the preamp if you buy a more expensive one?

  • @stevebadachmusic
    @stevebadachmusic 2 роки тому +19

    I think I do prefer the Fender, but it's not like the Sire sounds bad!

  • @MrThelonliestpunk
    @MrThelonliestpunk 2 роки тому +10

    The Fender for me ,it’s got a kind of aggressive tone the sire doesn’t manage.

  • @AllAboutBasses
    @AllAboutBasses 11 місяців тому +2

    Love that V5! I have a P8 that sounds amazing too.

  • @handgunner1911
    @handgunner1911 2 роки тому +2

    ive been using fenders for years i have a japan fender marcus bass i love it i needed a 5 string so i bought a sire v3 i got it really cheap its a mahagony body i left the stock pre amp and i had these old alembic jazz pick ups oh my god does the sire sound killer and as far as craftsmanship the sires are made well ans honestly it didnt sound bad stock for what you pay.anyway sires are well made and to pay 300 for a new 5 string active etc plus it played great right out of the box is it a fender no but they are great basses ive only been playing 42 years lolol my first bass was nowhere as good as a sire thanks for the video bro!!!!

  • @newfarmerfilms
    @newfarmerfilms Рік тому +5

    Listening with good headphones, I thought the Fender sounded a lot clearer. The V5 had no treble.

  • @colin_a
    @colin_a Рік тому +2

    The difference that the swapped-out bridge makes over the stock one on the Fender is enormous... I did this with my Fender Jazz bass, I swapped it with a BadAss.., it was a different planet... I would argue this is not a fair comparison... I would wager if you put the original Fender bridge back on, then did the test against the Sire would win hands down.. Just my opinion..😉

  • @gimmeagig
    @gimmeagig 2 місяці тому

    Really great comparison. The Sire V5 on its own sounds really impressive on most of the clips I have watched. But Side by Side the Fender wins. The difference to me is surprisingly drastic. I don't know if its the aged wood of the Fender. You might have an exceptionally good one. Or your Sire might not be one of the better ones. I bought a V7 vintage and even though the UA-cam clips sounded great, mine was set up poorly when I got it and it sounded pretty lifeless. It took some some time and some modding before it came to life.

  • @McRocking
    @McRocking 4 місяці тому +1

    Fender. Play it, enjoy it, and watch it go up, up, up in value!

  • @Dariotoma
    @Dariotoma 2 роки тому +3

    This is a very well done test.. chapeau 👍👍👍

  • @alexfeedback5643
    @alexfeedback5643 2 роки тому +4

    Man, its good job! Thanks!

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому

      Thank You for watching :)

  • @bluesmanshoes
    @bluesmanshoes 10 місяців тому +1

    Tonewise both are nice. More mids on the 77, more scoop/bass on the Sire.
    But my ears tell me you are way more confident on the 77. Playing juicier licks and with more precision.

  • @corlissimo
    @corlissimo Рік тому +3

    Nice job!
    However, I would have really enjoyed this comparison even more if both basses were strung with the same exact strings. Factory strings rarely sound as good as a fresh set, let alone a higher quality set. While I don’t know what Sire ships with, they’re likely a relatively low cost string.
    All that said, I think the Sire holds its own against the Fender quite well, especially when you factor in price point.

    • @Whos-That-Guy
      @Whos-That-Guy Рік тому +1

      Sire come with decent strings. D'addario

  • @marcinszadyn5026
    @marcinszadyn5026 2 роки тому +2

    Federazione Italiana, Maldini, Baresi, Costacurta, Nesta, Cannavaro and Sire👍🙂🤘Sire got more middle range so its louder than Fender, and price of the Sire is so fantastic for the quality and sound.

  • @aronturcsanyi7146
    @aronturcsanyi7146 2 роки тому +4

    The Fender just sounds like raw power, Sire is more sophisticated.

  • @atrillado
    @atrillado 2 роки тому +1

    For the price no doubt the Sire V5

  • @glenndjubilee
    @glenndjubilee 2 роки тому +1

    The J bass has a distinct advantage w/the Kickass bridge. I put one on my '75 P bass and it never sounded better or clearer. I also put one on my 2021 Squire Paranormal '54 J bass and it too ROCKS. The Sire needs a pickup and bridge upgrade IMHO. I also just purchased a Sire V5 5 string fretless and am waiting for its mfg.

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому +7

      Thanks for the comment, it's appreciated. However, I have a completely different opinion about the kickass bridge or any other "massive" bridges. I think that sustain (often associated with massive bridges) is an overrated fictional thing. On my basses, I always replaced massive bridges with vintage ones 🙂.

  • @kimlombardy3393
    @kimlombardy3393 5 місяців тому

    I believe the newer Sire pickups have been upgraded as my new V5 sounds some better than this one a little more dynamic and less muffled. Although this sound was greatly influenced by whatever amp he’s using and how it was EQ’d, great playing by the way. For the $ Sire all the way a better value!👏👍

  • @douglas364
    @douglas364 Рік тому +1

    the price diference is huge, but fender still sounds better

  • @duartebriz
    @duartebriz 2 роки тому +3

    They both sound great to me. But probably they feel much different in the hands.

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому

      You are absolutely right

    • @mrebear9758
      @mrebear9758 2 роки тому +1

      Sire definitely plays better for me. But you can't beat the sounds of a good 70s Fender IMO.

  • @bassimprovjams3772
    @bassimprovjams3772 2 роки тому +2

    I’d have to go with that Jazz!! However the price you can not beat the sire . And let’s not forget that the sire was made for beginner players who do not want or have the funds to go big on a bass yet. I love that black and maple!!! With the tone at 100% on the sire it definitely has more comparable fender tone then with the tone off,

  • @book3100
    @book3100 2 роки тому +3

    Not a lot off difference. I've heard similar differences in two guitars from the same brand.

  • @EricT43
    @EricT43 4 місяці тому

    The tone control seems to be more powerful on the Sire. The Fender has more treble with the tone 100% off.

  • @ka-bar5060
    @ka-bar5060 Рік тому

    The Sire has a warmer tone which I prefer over the '77 Fender.

  • @luisj.sanchez6983
    @luisj.sanchez6983 Рік тому

    Definivamente el Fender 77' Equilibrio perfecto

  • @Zip2461996
    @Zip2461996 Рік тому +1

    I listened to the samples without watching the videos. It was like hearing the same thing twice and any small difference between can be fixed with eq. That difference is not worth 1000+ dollars for sure.

  • @arlenvandersmagt5560
    @arlenvandersmagt5560 Рік тому

    Does anyone know if JACO played ,”The Chicken “, with the tone on zero? I’m really surprised how good the jazz sounds with no tone for finger funk!

  • @djeric1000
    @djeric1000 Рік тому

    i'd like to have a Sire sounding like this black JB :)

  • @ivankostadinov9687
    @ivankostadinov9687 2 роки тому +1

    Odlican video, pozdrav iz Nisa! Da li mislis da Sire V5 moze da se koristi za profesionalna snimanja (metal, rock, prog rock, hc)? Ako ne, koju bi preporucio u nekom pristupacnom cenovnom rangu?

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому +1

      Hvala i pozdrav iz Novog Sada. Iz mog skromnog iskustva sa Sire brendom, mogu slobodno reci da se ti basovi apsolutno mogu koristiti za sve profesionalne aktivnosti, od lajv svirki do snimanja svih vrsta. Sitni dodaci ne bi skodili, tipa obaranje ivica pragova, ili eventualna zamena magneta kome ne odgoaraju. Svirljivost i kvalitet su nesporni, pogotovo u odnosu na njihovu cenu.

  • @jrosner6123
    @jrosner6123 8 місяців тому

    If the sire feels good to play, switch out the pickups with, say, fender cs 60's, or nordstrand j type. On the sire, i truly think its the preamp choking the tone- marcus had his j bass modded with a bartolini preamp.

  • @haririod1139
    @haririod1139 Рік тому

    why is the tone knob more turned back at the sire bass???

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  Рік тому

      It's not. It on the same percentage. Only the knob with its line is not screwed at the same angle.

  • @michaelbrohl1625
    @michaelbrohl1625 10 місяців тому

    The Fender sounds better, but the modern day equivalent of that bass would cost triple the price of the Sire.

  • @bassape207
    @bassape207 2 роки тому +2

    Fender obviously sounds better but the sire does a great job. Fully open A lot of it is in the body of the note and I wonder how much a high mass bridge would affect that and same strings. It's never going to get all the way there but it would be a bit closer.
    I love my sire. I have the albridge on my 4 string v5 but it gave it a weird sound in the top end I didn't really like because of the material it's made of I think. I want to try the kickass bridge on my 5 string v5 when it comes in.

    • @levondarratt787
      @levondarratt787 Рік тому

      obviously? Who are you - clown. Keep your opinion yo yourself. Nothing is obvious. Teh V5 won this - here...pbviously.

  • @jesperdelacruz7848
    @jesperdelacruz7848 7 місяців тому +1

    fender all the way

  • @barondavis5692
    @barondavis5692 2 роки тому

    Nice comparison.

  • @Koga-Ed
    @Koga-Ed 3 місяці тому

    Nice comparison, but let’s not forget although they look alike they are different instruments with different hardware.
    Nevertheless it’s a good video. It’s only not complete in my opinion: the instruments have way more tone options than shown here.

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  3 місяці тому +2

      Yes I know, but since this is my hobby, 3 days of making a video is long enough. If someone gives a tip, maybe I'll make a video with more sound options 🙂

    • @Koga-Ed
      @Koga-Ed 3 місяці тому

      @@ObraBass omg ! That is indeed a lot of work ! 😅

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  3 місяці тому +1

      @@Koga-Ed Try to record and edit one...

  • @Ziasita
    @Ziasita 3 місяці тому

    Fender❤❤

  • @guidorusso60.
    @guidorusso60. Рік тому +2

    Sire sounds Better no doubt

  • @Mudncheese
    @Mudncheese 2 роки тому

    So beginner's question.. If you put Fender's pickup on the sire, will they sound the same?

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому +2

      My experience says if not the same, then pretty damn close, You probably wouldn't recognize it. There will be a big pickup test at my channel for holidays as a lot of comparison in that area soon. Follow my channel for new videos that are coming.

  • @radiantmind8729
    @radiantmind8729 Рік тому

    Are the Fender pickups original from ‘77?

  • @kriko8790
    @kriko8790 2 роки тому +2

    fender 77 alder body ???? sounds amazing !

  • @andreasfranzke3787
    @andreasfranzke3787 2 роки тому +1

    Which strings did you use on both?

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому +3

      I recorded Fender a year ago and Sire a few months ago, so unfortunately the strings was not the same. Fender had DR Pure Blues 40-100, and Sire had stock factory 45-105.

    • @atrillado
      @atrillado 2 роки тому +4

      @@ObraBass No way you can compare with diferent strings, in both with 40-100 probably the sound gets nearer, i own sire V5 5 and 4 the sound is great and for the price awsom.

    • @majidalizadeh9354
      @majidalizadeh9354 2 роки тому

      @@ObraBass nice comparison video! Great job!
      I also own a Sire V5 and love its sound, playability and the overall quality. I recently made a cover video of Power-Marcus Miller here. Check this out:
      ua-cam.com/video/qqu9wPoBLGI/v-deo.html

    • @bintangindrianto3694
      @bintangindrianto3694 Рік тому

      @@ObraBass ....not fair enough 😂....you must try the Sire with DR strings 🙏

  • @puteriaeddlysyah8456
    @puteriaeddlysyah8456 Рік тому

    What is the songs you use ?

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  Рік тому

      -A Taste of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie
      -Led Zeppelin - Dazed and Confused
      -RATM - Killing In The Name
      -Jaco Pastorius - Chicken
      -Led Zeppelin - Good Times Bad Times
      -Led Zeppelin - Rumble On

  • @TheAlessioGemelli
    @TheAlessioGemelli Рік тому

    Meglio fender . Più presente in carettere jazz bass . però sire v5 ovviamente accettabile ugualmente

  • @gary9816
    @gary9816 Рік тому +2

    Sire sounds better

  • @ponyfarma2065
    @ponyfarma2065 Рік тому +3

    Just hate Sire headstock!

  • @Dbb_K
    @Dbb_K Рік тому

    Sire Is very cute...

  • @jasf1961
    @jasf1961 2 місяці тому

    Lo importante es el bajista y la canción

  • @djeric1000
    @djeric1000 Місяць тому

    my Sire V5 with Sadowsky pickups sounds better than both here :)

  • @tinychamberz
    @tinychamberz Рік тому

    Tone 100% off? do you mean Tone 0%?

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  Рік тому +1

      Yes....I don't know what was I thinking 😂

    • @tinychamberz
      @tinychamberz Рік тому

      @@ObraBass happens ^^

  • @giannisskokos
    @giannisskokos 2 роки тому +1

    It is obvious that the Sire's pickups sound more than inferior to those on Fender. But, to do a right comparison, we should put the Same pickups on both bodies to hear the truth...

  • @richardstober2540
    @richardstober2540 Рік тому

    Fender Original or a Chinese Copy of a Fender?

  • @RioDeVick
    @RioDeVick 2 роки тому

    Pozdrav, zanimljiv kanal i zapracen :)
    Da li si imao prilike da sviras Sire P5 i ako jesi da li mozes da podelis svoje misljenje?

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому

      Hvala👍. Na zalost nisam imao prilike da sviram P5. Jedini koji mi je ''podleteo pod ruku'' je ovaj V5 koji mi je ostavio utisak odlicnog instrumenta u odnosu na cenu koliko kosta.

  • @fernandoelder4648
    @fernandoelder4648 Рік тому +2

    Simplesmente uma cópia do Fender ! Nada mais, sem personalidade !

  • @johnfrost9669
    @johnfrost9669 Рік тому

    500$ VS 4000$ ;)

  • @adanavalos3454
    @adanavalos3454 Рік тому

    .....brought to you by Fender lol

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  Рік тому

      No, it's not! Nobody paid me for this video, nor are any of these basses in the test mine. I tried to make the most realistic test that I was able to make.

  • @edgarojeda9288
    @edgarojeda9288 2 роки тому

    Sell me your fender jazz how much ?

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому

      Sorry, not mine...

    • @edgarojeda9288
      @edgarojeda9288 2 роки тому +1

      @@ObraBass thx really nice bass

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  2 роки тому

      @@edgarojeda9288 Yes it is. My friend also didn't want to sell it to me.

    • @edgarojeda9288
      @edgarojeda9288 2 роки тому +1

      @@ObraBass Nice videos btw!

  • @kurtzolman7560
    @kurtzolman7560 4 місяці тому

    Not a fair comparison! Two different studios and equipment. Come on!

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  4 місяці тому

      Same equipment, same studio. Strings was different, my shirt and wall painted black that day afternoon.

  • @roadworn61
    @roadworn61 2 роки тому +2

    I have a five string V5 ,this bass is not pumped the pickups not have volume.Fender all life.

  • @chriscockey7649
    @chriscockey7649 11 місяців тому

    Tone is open , not off.

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank You very much.

  • @nexus6324
    @nexus6324 10 місяців тому

    GUARDA CHE SI PIZZICA SUI PICKUP E NON IN MEZZO...MA CHE BASSISTA SEI? MA LO FAI DI LAVORO???🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  10 місяців тому

      I really don't understand the question?

  • @davidderosi5552
    @davidderosi5552 Рік тому +3

    No one would know how to distinguish them in a blind test, wonderful work Obrad! Sire did an amazing job with these basses. I have the 5-string v5 and it doesn't need any upgrade, it never goes out of tune and the pickups sound with an impressive mojo and growl!

    • @ObraBass
      @ObraBass  Рік тому +1

      Thank You. I hope you'll like the other videos on my channel and consider subscribing (If you haven't already) 👍