Why Spain and Germany Are Ganging Up in the EU 0305am 22.9.24 indeed. i get it. Habsburgian historical links... suggest the Uk is better off out of it, anyway. those issues besetting the little englander are also besetting those peoples who have conjoined to form the EU.... and they formed that clique to assuage such woes... ummmmmmmmmmmm... it's a silly place. though what to do - as we have Farage on his ego trip vs EU politicians so out of touch that you would think they lived in regions totally unconnected to europe...
Spain is a good ally throughout the campaign if you are a catholic country in Europe. If you play in Germany/England they help you control France, if you are France and you have an alliance with Spain you can do whatever you want, give them Portugal and North Africa to then have a PU with free colonies. Unless they are stupidly efficient (and I have only seen the AI do it once) they will never expand into Europe.
France has keep Spain separated of many EU systems for decades to undermine it in the EU. It's good that they're joining with Germany because Frances it's practically keeping the union hostage and they're technically responsible for the debacle on North Africa and the migration crisis.
This has nothing to do with Spain. It's all about Algeria. Algerians are the largest foreign community in France and making the EU more dependent on Algerian gas would give more leverage to Algeria towards France.
France doesn't have anything against Spain. Sure, France doesn't like the idea of Spain breaking their high-speed train and energy monopoly and hence oppose every single project in these two areas. That’s not undermining Spain, is just competing against Spain. Spain has the political and economic power to compete with France as well, which is what they're doing. However, this video seems to suggest that Spain and France are against each other or something... that's not true at all and France is obviously a much closer ally of Spain than Germany could ever be. French governments have been much better than German governments at protecting the EU. France opposed European dependency on the USA, whereas Germany embraced it - now we don’t know whether the USA would defend us if it came to that, and the enemies of the USA have become our enemies as well. What has China do to Europe? Why is Germany defending Israel? France also knows that allowing Spain to export Algerian gas to the rest of Europe would simply allow Algeria to manipulate Europe, just like Russia did. France has always encouraged European self-reliance in basically all areas - economy, military, energy, etc. All the actions they've taken for the last 7 decades have been in this direction. That's why I think France is a much better and trustworthy ally than Germany could ever be. No matter the government, they're predictable and will always defend EU values. You know what policies they'll support and what ideas they'll reject even before they've been voted on. Germany, on the other hand, has proven to be a very self-interested country, which takes advantage of the rest of the EU and turns their back on the rest of us when it suits them. They were the ones that wanted to buy Russian gas instead of French nuclear energy, they were the ones blaming Greece, Spain and Italy for the Euro crisis, they are the ones now closing their borders, when they were the ones letting millions of people inside the EU 10 years ago. They blame the EU for all their problems, when they're the ones that have the most political power to change it
Somewhat isolated is an euphemism. France has always blocked all attempts to improve Iberian connections with the rest of Europe. Used to be a liability as it prevented the Iberian countries from getting that sweet cheap Russian gas but that situation has kind of taken a turn...
@@pranshukrishna5105 Spain and France were historical rivals for centuries. Not as intensely as France and England, but still, it's up there. However, the last time that rivalry was truly relevant was in the freaking Napoleonic Wars. Bringing that up nowadays is nonsense.
@@pranshukrishna5105 I may be mistaken but France is an energy exporter with its nuclear and connecting Spain's energy to the rest of Europe would hurt their interests.
You say that like it's our fault if Spain and Portugal are where they are. We don't make geography. And what's the problem to care about its own interest? Aren't you focus on your own interest when asking to make that pipeline in France? Should we shoot a bullet in our own feet for the sake of your interest? So we should make a pipeline, that will cut France in two, or go under water by the littoral of France, we should go agaisnt the agenda for decarbonation, we shoul dhurt our energy sector, so that you can export your gas? I just don't see the part were it benefits to us. I understand that spain has plenty of gas and that they want to export it to its neighbors but you should ask yourselves, how can you make it so it also benefits to France, the place were you want to build that pipeline. I don't think France is trying to cut Spain and Portugal from the rest of the E.U like you're saying.
@@Arleq1France protectionist policies often result in Spain and Portugal being isolated. France wants to sell their nuclear energy to central Europe so they don't want to build any decent power connections with the Iberian peninsula. Even though this is going to hurt them in a few years when Russia takes control over their African colonies so no more access to cheap fuel
I agree we should go for Nuclear in Europe. But having the natural Gas infrasctruture as a secondary, complementary or fail-safe system seems a good idea.
@@PeterLamin-pi6rv i understand the implication, as French uranium came from there. But there is alot of uranium in other arras of the world. Like Brasil, south África, and Australia. All countries with good stable relations with the EU countries.
@@_Azurael_ also there are uranium mines in France limousin, the fact France closed those mines is simply a cost cutting measure, if need be they can be reopened, furthermore, France has 2-3years of reserves of uranium giving it a big amount of time to find new suppliers if need be
We should maybe just mention that when Spain wanted pipelines to bring cheap gas south into the Iberian Peninsula, nobody was interested. Now that the gas is flowing the other way, suddenly everyone thinks it's a great idea.
Let us not forget that for years Portugal has tried to make energy connection with Spain and Spain has deny that to avoid Sines becoming a main hub or Portugal selling it's much larger green energy potencial and competing with Spain solar.
No kidding considering that Spain decided to remain neutral during World War II while Germany was screwed knowing that it's Buddy Spain was too busy. 😂
The problem for a full Spanish integration to the EU has been always France. We are not well connected by rail, electricity grid or gas grid due to France's opposition. We need Germany on our side to counterbalance France.
@@damienreilly4347 Not really, we only have 2 highway connections, rail passengers have to get out and walk through a bridge, no gas pipeline, etc. They always oppose everything we propose.
@@damienreilly4347 We are. Well, "besties" may be a stretch, but the relationship is overall good. People who say otherwise are just people nostalgic of the old Spanish Empire who think we're still living in between the 16th century and the early 19th century.
@@damienreilly4347 Not really, France has systematically opposed greater iberian integration into the continent. Just look at the gas pipelines that they declined to connect during the crisis after the invasion of Ukraine.
Scholtz maybe, but if the socialusts put a better candidate, which they have, while CDU mauntains theirs they could maybe safe themselves but it would be difficukt
And Sánchez, well, his gobernment is practically paralized, and speculations of elections being held in 2025 are growing (and they look bad for Sánchez, since he would need to *improve* on his 2023 results, which is pretty much impossible after all the scandals).
@@jonC1208 Absolutely not. The center left parties lost a lot of credibility within this government. Also last time it wasnt really a vote FOR the center left but a vote AGAINST the center right and especially against Merkels policies. I rather think the left squandered their chances for yet another generation by being too naive and trusting the neo-liberal FDP. Also i dont see the SPD putting another candidate. Scholz is absolutely convinced that the problem isnt himself and the SPD is notorious for horrible leadership fights. It would rather hidner than support their chances. There will be another 12+ years of CDU ahead of us. Hooray..... Maybe with a taint of green instead of yellow but that wont change jack shit for average germans and german foreign policy.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last 500 years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now, when it's worked so well? James Hacker: That's all ancient history, surely. Sir Humphrey Appleby: Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times. James Hacker: Surely we're all committed to the European ideal. Sir Humphrey Appleby: Really, Minister. [laughs] James Hacker: If not, why are we pushing for an increase in the membership? Sir Humphrey Appleby: Well, for the same reason. It's just like the United Nations, in fact. The more members it has, the more arguments it can stir up. The more futile and impotent it becomes. James Hacker: What appalling cynicism. Sir Humphrey Appleby: Yes. We call it diplomacy, Minister.
I remember reading someone's comment on this channel saying "As usual TLDR gets things half right and half wrong" as if they didn't read because it was too long. Still true to this day about this channel.
@@francesctorrent5186 lets face it mate, when it comes to manifacturing, Spain is nowhere on the global arena. Yet, they are great in food production and tourism. hope this does not hurt your feeling
That's what Meloni is doing, looking after Italian interests contrary to previous Italian governments looking after the EU. You have just stated true facts and reality.
France has never liked Iberean control, and always makes sure to keep Portugal and especially Spain from connecting better to the rich center of europe. Spain is a dangerous competitor for France, with almost the same size in land and huge energy potential edit: Spain isn't great obviously, every place is flawed, and it was a bit over exaggerated. It still faces way too many problems to actually be the equivalent of france or anywhere near that, but it is true that they are a bit in the way, Also this is more about algeria as correctly mentioned. my bad! 🙂
This has nothing to do with Spain, the problem is all about Algeria. Making the EU more dependent on Algeria would increase its leverage on the EU, which can be a problem for France considering that Algerians are the largest foreign community of the country. Not to say that Algeria is also Putin's ally.
España no le debe nada a Francia, no siquiera ser vecinos. Los franceses siempre han sido traidores no solo a ojos de los Ibéricos si no también de los Itálicos, Helénicos y Germanos. La Francia actual está más jodida que España, si Francia parece un Califato que un país Europeo.
Half of Europe usually takes more time than France just did to get a government, so don't really see your point. It might have been valid if you said that the new french government, whatever it is, will probably collapse very soon, and France is probably ungovernable for the next 1 year if not 3 because of the lack of majority.
The way France jealously walls off Iberia is incredible, as an American I thought it was hunky dory in the EU but nope. Same old national politics that played out for centuries
It doesn't wall off Iberia, France doesn't want to invest in pipelines or Gas and more importantly doesn't want to depend on Algeria. You might know the history between the 2 countries, Algeria is pissed one day out of 2 about something France said or did.
@@zaydalaoui9397 Exactly. When you make yourself dependent of another country on something, you grant it a power on yourself. We could have expected Germans to understand that with the war in Ukraine but apparently they haven't. Algerians are the largest community in France, it's certainly not in the country's interest to grant to Algeria a leverage allowing it to dictate its own conditions on basically everything. As a matter of fact, that's not even on the EU's interest.
@@clementl.9566 energy provider competitor? France itself has issues with energy due to alot of the nuclear power plants actually being out of service due to a shortage on the parts necessary to maintain the plants. I believe it is actually more about strengthen their position within the EU as a leading economical member, since it would keep germany in a weak spot with industry shrinking due to high energy cost since the lack of russian gas.
What Spain and Germany want seem reasonable to me. Europe has had decades to develop green energy. It now seems silly to complain because China got ahead developing electric cars.
You missed the point, China subsidize its electric cars, so they artifically cost less to manufacture and are sold cheaper than any european electric car. it's dishonest advatage for Chinese car makers and it will kill the automotive industry in the long Run in Europe. Germany and Spain are thinking short term.
The question is whether the EU wants to make itself more dependent on Algeria, therefore granting to that country more leverage on Europe. That's the big question and considering that Algerians are the largest foreign community in France, it makes sense that it is the first country to worry about it.
France is the reason Spain is disconnected with center europe. They didn't want competition to their nuclear plants, so they negated every Spanish attempt on making new connections or upgrading the existing ones. Sooner or later, being a douchebag backfires.
Very interesting and informative. I like watching stories about Spain since I've visited it for the past three summers. I also visited Berlin for the first time this Summer; and Paris last September. I plan to visit Berlin and Paris next year so I like to know what's going on politically at those countries.
I have read your comment and I am going to answer you, I am Spanish, and Spain is an energy island, it is true, 1st because of the blockade of France, our natural enemy for millennia, it is true, and because Spain we still live under the policies of Franco, and the franc policies have given good results to Spain, I explain, Spain, bound by these franc policies that have not been eliminated, right now has reserves of oil, gas, iron, aluminum, steel, and any material that You can think for more than 75 years, with the current spending, (by law I repeat laws of Franco the dictator) the same laws that force us to build highways, roads, bridges, railways, with traps so that in case of invasion they cannot invade more than 6-7 kilometers) returning to the issue of energy, as you will see Spain has enough resistance to supply raw materials to all of Europe for a long time, and it is a buffer that no one had thought of until the war in Ukraine
The overdramatic titles are a discredit to the work you put into the videos. What's the point of being innovative if you're coming at events the same the ratchet tabloids do? 🙄
Macron is right about Energy, France knows very well Algeria and knows very well that you should not rely on their gas. They're also right about China, a trade war is not fun but we can't keep leting China subsidize entier industries, kill European business then buy them cheap to exerce it's influence, if EU doesn't react, it might be easier on the short term but it will cost a lot in the long run.
Algeria needs to sell its gas, and the only place it can sell it is Europe. Last year there were disagreements between Algeria and Spain, and they halved the flow of gas to Spain at the contractual minimum. Italy has doubled the import of Algerian gas, and there are agreements to build plants for the production of green hydrogen and ammonia, which will be transported to Italy as far as Sicily. Hydrogen and ammonia are the fuel of the future, in addition to 4th generation nuclear power plants.
hes not even the only one that has refused to build new electric connctions to germnay jusr recently the swedish goverment didnt wanna build a new connection because the germans are already driving up swedish prices
There is no such a thing as full protectionism nowadays. The best you can do is what China does, free market with some protectionist policies, which I don't see the problem with. If the Spanish government wants to help the Chinese create jobs in Spain with their money than what's the issue? Besides, the EU can't win a trade war against China, they're just to diveded to create an appropriate response.
I'm a fan of Spain's policy on many issues. but the miscalculated position regarding Nuclear energy (same with Germany) is just nonsensical and based on propaganda. There are tons of evidence regarding the safety of nuclear energy. especially in the sites of the largest ever accidents (which themselves caused much less harm than fossil fuels and their related accidents). Germany's energy problem did not start with the reliance on Russia. it started with the stupid program to wind down Nuclear energy in the country.
Supongo Alemania estará profundamente interesada más que en el gas actual que pueda obtener a través de España, del hidrógeno verde que se estima podría producir España en grandes cantidades con sus renovables, igual y a España le interesaría más atraer a grandes industrias con un alto consumo eléctrico a su territorio con lo barato que resulta su producción energética, junto a Noruega los menores costes mundiales a gran distancia del resto y volver a industrializarse, después de que Francia y Alemania obligaran a España para su integración a la Unión Europea a frenar su potente e incipiente poder industrial y a vender un gran número de sus multinacionales públicas, que obtenían grandes beneficios incluso manteniendo los precios de sus servicios controlados para los españoles.
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They are safe. But they are EXPENSIVE, Nuclear are not worth it.
@@sesper3871 It is expensive because politicians signed an agreement to stop mining uranium here in Spain and instead buy it from France that gets it from their African colonies, the same with the construction of a centralized waste facility, it has been stalled for decades due to French involvement and we pay France to store our nuclear waste there
Since this is primarily a British channel, it would be nice to see the UK in the statistics charts (even if we aren't in the EU any more). It gives us some idea of our relative positions in the statistics.
@@VTh-f5xthings like a VW golf or polo. Which used to be less than 15k in the base models but now often start at above 25k or even 30k and going up above 50k depending on features. Meanwhile you can get a midrange limo from BYD with all the same bells and whistels as the top end Golf for less money and you save on the upkeep due to the BYD being electric. Like teh cheapest Golf new is 29k euros and lacks many basic features youˋd expect in a new car. Like cruise control with adaptive distance(ACC can be added down the line so they literally just refuse to give you the software for it), navigation, bluethooth connectivity for apple/andriod carplay/auto, a rear view cameras, LED headlights. To get just these two you now need to get a higher end model of golf. To get all I listed you now are at 36k euros or more and essentially have added nothing else to the car. For that amount you get MG 4 EV post tarrfis.
@@VTh-f5x A car designed to get you and your cargo from point A to point B as cheaply and reliably as possible is utilitarian, as opposed to being sporty, luxurious, spacious or prestigious and ego-elevating.
Not sure it would be a good match. My dad was German, my mother was a Spaniard. Oil and water. It mixes well at first but easily separates. Mixing them takes a lot of agitation, which might be fun at first but leads to a lot of frustration for those around them.
One thing I’ve noticed is no matter what large scale policy France agrees with continental or international, they’re somehow always surprisingly correct.
But therefore their domestic policy is a disaster. The first country that will fall for the Islam in Europe will be France. Their rather strong and yet insufficient birth rate is their undoing, not their salvation.
From Latin America and Filipine of course because they once belong to Spain and share most of the culture, but not migrants from north Africa and middle east, they are destroying Spain and Portugal, I saw it.
France, Germany, and Italy - and Poland! And that is said from Denmark, and I do not (as a green socialist) agree with Polish government, but I acknowledge that both Spain and Poland are to be considered great powers alongside Germany, Iga, and France
@@GdzieJestNemoNetherlands maybe, but I don't really agree that Sweden is more relevant and influential than Poland. Even Netherlands can be greatly debated. Especially with how relevant EU's policy towards Ukraine and Russia is and how much the Polish economy improved in the last 10 years.
@@ivanmacgar6447 make a quick test and check how many international polish companies there are or how many polish movies or artists you heard of. Nearly entire polish economy is based on cheap workforce and foreign investment and there's no change on the horizon. We always rank among the worst is startups and anything relating to R&D. You will never be a "great power" with such characteristics.
@@GdzieJestNemo Poland is growing fast. Don't dismiss Poland. In general the whole eastern past soviet nations are recovering pretty quickly. Of course being part of UDSSR is going to leave it's mark for a while. Weird comments about movies and artists, Poland has a lot of cultural contributions in Cinema and other arts. If you don't know, just look up polish art.
I'm more curious about this energy deal between Spain and Africa. Who benefits more? How long has this been an establishment? It is rare to hear any updates about it.
yes and its understandable, france can make big words in this since they sell not much cars to china, or chemicals, mashines. For Germany a trade war with china at this moment would mean a massive boost for AfD far right or BSW far left/left with right wing parts booth anti EU/NATO/USA pro russian that already use it with again the goverment wants go get into things that hurt germany and arent our business, provocate, more crisis++
Even so i hate booth parties you have to see the point of protecting your on economy and people we took a big L in the decision of helping ukraine (even so its right) sacrificed alot for it and created a boost for anti government parties Fundamental Opposition more extrem parties. Than look what Poland did in the Ukraine Grain problem literally blocked the imports and transit of them to protect their own industry & votes... that was one industry, we got hit in basically all areas because of UK/Russian war help and sanctions and that with a big Russian-German Population part and most East Germans already anti Goverment and ok with russia + big anti US by many of them... Dont know how it is in Spain, if they also would get more extrem parties in power because of that but¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Algeria has no weaponry to threat Europe (apart immigration) and China is on the other corner of the world. And is just an economic partner, never an ally or whatsoever.
For all the people making jokes about Germany Spain partnership clearly referring to their facist regimes , need to know that Franco played Hitler like a fiddle, there was never any alliance, Franco basically got free equipment off of him
Exacto, pero déjalos que escriban por escribir. Franco ni siquiera ayudó a Hitler es más los Nazis eran amigos Forevers de los Comunistas de Stalin que en España los Comunistas mataron miles de españoles. Franco puede ser lo que sea, pero nunca fue aliado de Hitler, ni de Stalin.
Economy is not that simple. Letting China export electric cars to Europe keeps that market competitive and prices down, it also forces the German car companies, who were slow to adapt to electric, to keep their game up. Thus ultimately retaining jobs and expertise in Europe.
Europe without raw materials or its own energy cannot compete against those who have all that, cheaper and also lower salaries, devalued currency and open markets (without sanctions on client countries)
Its dramatic that we have to slow down climate rescue because of our economy. We need those cheap renewable techs. There has to be a better way that tarrifs. Something outside the box. What about a fusion of chinese and european car manufacturers? Or china has to invest their earnings in the european car companys.
Don't kid yourselves. China has become a (the?) leading EV automotive driver. This can ease the EU (and global) climate agenda. Or is global warming not important any more?
It will not happen as the EU decided that if it wants to further expand then there will be majority voting which means France + Germany + Italy + Poland + Spain and others can shut up. It will not go through democratically so instead of expansion will be the exact opposite.
What a stupid question. There is no closer nor more important ally than France for us Germans. So no, while disagreeing on aspects and apparently agreeing with Spain there is not even the hint of a chance in anyone replacing our symbiotic partner
Bueno quieres seguir teniendo a Francia pues tenla, pero eso sí después no digas que no tuviste oportunidad de alejarte y más ahora que Francia esta a un pasó a ser un Califato.
there's a pipeline with ships, its still cheaper than a real one but connecting the two counties is an alternative and element of interst against the france blockade!
The Iberian Peninsula energetic isolation was good to Spain and Portugal both. They got the Iberian exception during covid and after-covid to get much lower electricity prices.
That was 2 years out of 30 years of paying twice as much while the rest of Europe bought gas from Russia. While Portugal want to export energy to the rest of Europe and benefit from it's decades long investments in green energy, It can't because both Spain and France are blocking it!
@@xalau5270 Absolutely false. For decades Spain has been blocking the energy connections with Portugal. Portugal's energy market connection with Spain is Under the 10% as required by the EU, just like France. Spain is doing exactly the same to avoid Portugal's competitition.
@@xalau5270 Portugal CAN compete with Spain itself and that it's why Spain is avoiding that connection. Spain has bein doing that for decades and thus it is what Spain deserves from France too. FRance and Spain adn the same shit. They have always been. Every single historical and modern issue facing Portugal's economy IS the combined result of the allience between Spain and France
@@univeropa3363 I agree with Sanchez’s recognition of Palestine. That was a great move. But it’s hypocritical for Spain to have extended that recognition to Palestine, stay quiet over Taiwan, and then decide that Europe needs closer ties to China.
@@univeropa3363 Taiwan is separate. The PRC has never controlled Taiwan. Either way, it seems you take the PRC’s propaganda. Agree to disagree. Both Palestine and Taiwan deserve sovereignty.
Arguing that energy policies are done on the basis of a speedier green energy transition and not over competing national interests is insulting people´s intelligence.
France isn't caring about EU at all. They are always trying to restrict anything lead by Spain as the Midcat pipe or the Spanish trains entering their territory while France can easily operate trains all over Spain.
For pipelines, they're blocking any pipeline project because they want to get rid of Gas as Energy source. For trains, no foreign trains were allowed until recently (not just spain) and now Renfe is operating in France. It has nothing to do with Spain or not Spain, and all to do with Policy.
@@zaydalaoui9397the have blocked pipelines, electricity grid, highways, internet cabes and the transport ministry of Spain wants to take France to the courts for making it as difficult as possible for Renfe to operate in France
@@zaydalaoui9397Defend France all you want as ir seems to be your country, but that doesnt change many things that can be considered to be hostile done by france to Spain in the recent history.
If France closes its borders, Spain is toasted. Spain will be an island, like UK. If Spain tries to annoy France, we'll see who is the stronger, and it aint Spain. Geography matters. So calm down..
Can't wait for Frexit. France founded the EC/EU with Germany: French Foreign Minister Robert Schuman said in his founding speech, May 9, 1950: " The goal is to ensure lasting peace on the continent, through the development of production solidarity between France and Germany, making any clash between these two countries impossible." The Treaty of Paris was signed on 18 April 1951. And France created Airbus with Germany when UK left the Airbus project in 1969. New York Times 11 April 1969 « Britain Abandons the European Airbus Project; *Believes Building the Plane Is a Losing Proposition* » Fortunately France asked Germany if they wanted to continue the A300 project, and signed an agreement 50-50 at 1969 Paris Air Show. Airbus is now world leader, without France and Germany, Airbus wouldn't existed today.
Will never happen. Only in the uk was eu hate strong enough, and even there they only won by 52%. Le Pen has dropped the issue, so that is now off the table as theres no significant party anymore that would push for that.
@@casanova8762 Democracy is a "b" witch 🤣😂. Another election will surely come. Then if your people win it will be the other side's time to say that whoever is the PM then is a dictator 🤣
It so happens all the time that some countries in the EU (or actually: anywhere in the world) happen to have similar interests in certain areas. Calling that a bromance is somewhat clickbaity.
Unbelievable! When Daimler announced a 2 B$ investment in China, early September…. Do the Spanish believe Germany will increase its vehicle production in Spain? About natural gas’ whatever’ if France does not want a gas pipe, nobody can force them.
You mean: less democratic, more right-wing nationalism? No. Simply no. If you dislike the core values of the EU 🇪🇺 - trigger A50 and bugger off. No one will shed a tear. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
The 🇪🇺EU is 2nd most powerful state in the World after the 🇺🇲US. Letting Beijing build factories in the EU is Moscow 2.0 all over again. Don't let Shulz take the EU down. 🇦🇺
@@FranCuri-y2u 🔸US is a union of States with it's own Gov @ 340M ppl. 🔸EU is a union of States with it's own Gov & 450M ppl, EU Military is being discussed now.
Guys, stop the over-the-top dramatic titles. That's 'express' level. Downvote for this reason. That's not proper journalism - that's cheap clickbait. Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@@MrKitEA No, it's not needed. An algorithm is a tool that examines past behaviour of a user and suggests similar content. Hence: if TLDR viewers are being presented with proper titles matching the content, containing key terms, the algorithm feeds the viewers similar content. Greetings from a forensic data analyst
gonna be honest, frenhc here, i don't care what's the real bromance coming from, all i care is either germany plays it faire and plays as a team or we should just go back to nationalized economies.. germany was really happy with europe when it was exporting a whole lot.. but now that germany has made a fucking hell of a mistake through the russian gas dependance, it's now looking on how to pivot to not deal with it's consequences... Germany, now it's time to face the reality
sadly it looks like Germans really cant figure it out once and for all, they prefer to live in delusion with AFD reaching such a high turnout in Thuringia
@@FrankeNamensKarim realize it has fucked up with the gas dependence and engage with other european countries who has made better calls, and if they have a strategy not freaking borrow money on it's own during a crisis risking to put other countries even more at risk but borrowing money altogether with others. germany need to start teaming up more with others, even though that means making compromise continentally. europe has to be stronger than that, we can't let ourself being the vassal of china or the US, we need to invest on basically the same point as draghi as pointed out
Have you ever thought about if the french way might be a disadvantage to others or ruffle any feathers? if you had learned anything from the german-russian gas debacle then that we should diversify our energy dependencies. I for my part rather have addtional energy input via spain than not. Especially as it recently seems that french colonial africa will sever its ties with mainland france overtime. Which means it will become harder to get hands on cheap fuel for the reactors. Better diversify your risks. Blocking spain from becoming an energy supplier to the EU for decades and then being salty if in times of (energy) troubles people go around your back... *pikachu face* Gee, i wonder why the french did that in the first place. Maybe because the french nuclear program only generates more profits if they sell energy to their neighbours? Was that also the reason why france is such a staunch supporter of energy transition? Less competitions? Or why france is crying for strategic autonomy in NATO and focus shift to africa? who knows. But i think its time to face reality: If you play foul with your buddies you will get left out of group activities.
Germany is still getting its beloved Russian gas via Spain: Priority question for written answer P-001309/2024 to the Commission Rule 138 Juan Ignacio Zoido Álvarez (PPE) According to a recent study by the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA) - an independent body with its headquarters in Houston - Spain now imports more liquefied natural gas from Russia than any other European country. The quantity of Russian gas arriving in Spanish ports has seen new highs, increasing by 30 % in 2023 and has risen for two years in a row, while the Spanish Government turns a blind eye.
Here is something to consider: Spain has it's finances in order while French debt is completely out of control under Macron. As V. Pécresse said "Macron a cramé la caisse" and it is getting worse each week.
Saying Spain has "it's finances in order" is like saying México is a Drug free country, y'all don't know absolutely nothing about what y'all say and It shows 😂😂😂
@@Many_Rivera si y no a la vez. España tendrá sus problemas, pero no como los de Francia que ya no se ve como Francia si no como un Califato y no es de broma 😮. España tiene sus deudas pero a comparación de Francia no se compara.
TLDR on TLDR: Germany wants all the benefits of being in the EU and none of the cost being in the EU. And is happy to trade a small proportion of its European automotive market for a much larger Chinese one.
Spaniards should not be isolated, that is despicable. Algieria is better source of energy than Russia. However, Germany attempts to isolate Poland from grants in technology and science or from companies like Samsung to build high-tech factories in Poland and we remember that so alliance with France in new technology sector would not be bad for Poland now I guess. Poland is pro 100% taxes on China. Chinese electric cars except of 1 brand are driving traps that catch fire faster than matches in hell. China is helping Russia, Iran and North Korea and EU should withdraw all its investments there to cripple their economy. Everything can be produced in Europe and jobs can be given to European workers. Borders of EU need to be protected as well.
Well 2 unpopular presidents working together not much of a shock but doubtful it would have much impact when election dont look great for either of them
I want to add as a spaniard that pedro Sánchez unpopularity is completely different than scholz. His unpopularity is 90% related to having a deescalating strategy with catalonians independentists parties while also needing their votes for everything that has to pass congress, from his government formation, to budget approval, and the independentists have used that leverage to get presidential pardons for those in jail and an amnesty for everyone else Who was related to the catalonian declaration of independence. Because of this he is seen as weak, soft, a "traitor", etc. But most of his domestic policies on the economy, energy, etc are popular, but they get overshadow by what i describes above. He has managed to get recently the government over catalonian regional government proving that his strategy helps stabilize Catalonia, but It also makes him lose votes everywhere else.
In Germany not much in this would change AfD and BSW wont get into power with no coalition partner and both would mean a hard anti EU,Nato,Usa, pro Russian policy. From the Polls it most likely will be CDU in coalition with FDP + or a grand coalition again with spd. And from CDU Point even so they have harder ton on china in most part they will do the same if not even more protection for the car industry, chemical , mashine and exports to china wont start a trade dispute or even war. Without that they SPD etc. would get alot of hate from the Industry, be it chemical, car, machine ++ and they lose their supporter base
It's not too late to change the thumbnail to the 'Distracted Boyfriend' meme.
Considering the people on that picture are actually Spaniards (no, really, it was taken in Barcelona), it would be very appropriate. lol
LOL
@@XanderVJ 0:31 0:32 0:33 0:34
Why Spain and Germany Are Ganging Up in the EU 0305am 22.9.24 indeed. i get it. Habsburgian historical links... suggest the Uk is better off out of it, anyway. those issues besetting the little englander are also besetting those peoples who have conjoined to form the EU.... and they formed that clique to assuage such woes... ummmmmmmmmmmm... it's a silly place. though what to do - as we have Farage on his ego trip vs EU politicians so out of touch that you would think they lived in regions totally unconnected to europe...
@@XanderVJIt was taken in Girona. (No hate)
Habsburgs!!! Assemble!
Keep your chin up!
@@OAlem🤣
Wrong century.
Bourbons are literally on Spain's throne atm
want me to call the germans?
This was my strategy in Europa Universalis IV as Brandenburg.
Spain is a good ally throughout the campaign if you are a catholic country in Europe. If you play in Germany/England they help you control France, if you are France and you have an alliance with Spain you can do whatever you want, give them Portugal and North Africa to then have a PU with free colonies. Unless they are stupidly efficient (and I have only seen the AI do it once) they will never expand into Europe.
Honestly even after I went Protestant they were my number 1 bros. They ruled the sea while I ruled the land.
France has keep Spain separated of many EU systems for decades to undermine it in the EU. It's good that they're joining with Germany because Frances it's practically keeping the union hostage and they're technically responsible for the debacle on North Africa and the migration crisis.
This has nothing to do with Spain. It's all about Algeria. Algerians are the largest foreign community in France and making the EU more dependent on Algerian gas would give more leverage to Algeria towards France.
So true
France doesn't have anything against Spain. Sure, France doesn't like the idea of Spain breaking their high-speed train and energy monopoly and hence oppose every single project in these two areas. That’s not undermining Spain, is just competing against Spain. Spain has the political and economic power to compete with France as well, which is what they're doing. However, this video seems to suggest that Spain and France are against each other or something... that's not true at all and France is obviously a much closer ally of Spain than Germany could ever be.
French governments have been much better than German governments at protecting the EU. France opposed European dependency on the USA, whereas Germany embraced it - now we don’t know whether the USA would defend us if it came to that, and the enemies of the USA have become our enemies as well. What has China do to Europe? Why is Germany defending Israel? France also knows that allowing Spain to export Algerian gas to the rest of Europe would simply allow Algeria to manipulate Europe, just like Russia did. France has always encouraged European self-reliance in basically all areas - economy, military, energy, etc. All the actions they've taken for the last 7 decades have been in this direction. That's why I think France is a much better and trustworthy ally than Germany could ever be. No matter the government, they're predictable and will always defend EU values. You know what policies they'll support and what ideas they'll reject even before they've been voted on.
Germany, on the other hand, has proven to be a very self-interested country, which takes advantage of the rest of the EU and turns their back on the rest of us when it suits them. They were the ones that wanted to buy Russian gas instead of French nuclear energy, they were the ones blaming Greece, Spain and Italy for the Euro crisis, they are the ones now closing their borders, when they were the ones letting millions of people inside the EU 10 years ago. They blame the EU for all their problems, when they're the ones that have the most political power to change it
Most of migrants arriving in spain via Canaria islands or Morroco 😂? Why France is responsible schoolboy?
@@pastvz2781 you literally described undermining
Somewhat isolated is an euphemism. France has always blocked all attempts to improve Iberian connections with the rest of Europe. Used to be a liability as it prevented the Iberian countries from getting that sweet cheap Russian gas but that situation has kind of taken a turn...
why did france do that?
Russia is way too far away from Russia for that gas come in "cheap" in any way, shape or form, with or without France's intervention.
@@pranshukrishna5105 Spain and France were historical rivals for centuries. Not as intensely as France and England, but still, it's up there.
However, the last time that rivalry was truly relevant was in the freaking Napoleonic Wars. Bringing that up nowadays is nonsense.
@@XanderVJ does france benefit from it?
@@pranshukrishna5105 I may be mistaken but France is an energy exporter with its nuclear and connecting Spain's energy to the rest of Europe would hurt their interests.
I love you guys, but yall are so dramatic with the titles.
Standard practice for UA-cam™ video, and they are are journalist so of course they are gonna exaggerates
How is this dramatic? Quite standard political terminology
this how any youtube has to work
people click on it, so...
Click bait
It's not only Spain, Portugal is isolated too, we're an island in EU, thanks to french interests. 😑
You say that like it's our fault if Spain and Portugal are where they are. We don't make geography. And what's the problem to care about its own interest? Aren't you focus on your own interest when asking to make that pipeline in France? Should we shoot a bullet in our own feet for the sake of your interest? So we should make a pipeline, that will cut France in two, or go under water by the littoral of France, we should go agaisnt the agenda for decarbonation, we shoul dhurt our energy sector, so that you can export your gas? I just don't see the part were it benefits to us.
I understand that spain has plenty of gas and that they want to export it to its neighbors but you should ask yourselves, how can you make it so it also benefits to France, the place were you want to build that pipeline.
I don't think France is trying to cut Spain and Portugal from the rest of the E.U like you're saying.
How is Portugal isolated?
@@user-qg5tn7bf2p because it only borders with spain
You always looked towards London, not towards Paris
@@Arleq1France protectionist policies often result in Spain and Portugal being isolated. France wants to sell their nuclear energy to central Europe so they don't want to build any decent power connections with the Iberian peninsula. Even though this is going to hurt them in a few years when Russia takes control over their African colonies so no more access to cheap fuel
Charles V is smiling from heaven
and Francis I of France is sad in hell
Carlos I
Carlos l del Imperio Global Español ❤
Carlos l
Spain + Germany : Ive seen this one, its a classic.
Gurmany and Russia would be the thing. But Murica tires to avoid this since time immemorial.
Solo hay que visitar Mallorca para verlo.😁
@@daktaklakpak5059what?
Wait until italy comes
@@daktaklakpak5059 what?
I agree we should go for Nuclear in Europe.
But having the natural Gas infrasctruture as a secondary, complementary or fail-safe system seems a good idea.
Where would uranium pallets come from as the French has been kicked out of the Sahel, Russia of course 🤣🤣🤡
@@PeterLamin-pi6rv i understand the implication, as French uranium came from there. But there is alot of uranium in other arras of the world. Like Brasil, south África, and Australia.
All countries with good stable relations with the EU countries.
@@_Azurael_ also there are uranium mines in France limousin, the fact France closed those mines is simply a cost cutting measure, if need be they can be reopened, furthermore, France has 2-3years of reserves of uranium giving it a big amount of time to find new suppliers if need be
@@PeterLamin-pi6rvNiger uranium mine barely accounted for a tenth of France’s uranium procurement. This argument is pretty much entirely fallacious
Seems like a waste of money tbh. Why build both?
We should maybe just mention that when Spain wanted pipelines to bring cheap gas south into the Iberian Peninsula, nobody was interested. Now that the gas is flowing the other way, suddenly everyone thinks it's a great idea.
That´s all right.
Let us not forget that for years Portugal has tried to make energy connection with Spain and Spain has deny that to avoid Sines becoming a main hub or Portugal selling it's much larger green energy potencial and competing with Spain solar.
spanish german bromance against france. what is this the 15th century
😂 so funny and also during the WWII Spain support Germany.
@@kkme503DIVISIÓN AZUL
@@kkme503 Only against the Soviet Union. Not against the Westerners.
Alemania fue Español siglos, no al revés.
@@Merry19ss Casa Austria?
Let's hope that the Spain-Germany bromance works better than last time... 😅
Spain loves German cashflow, which is far fetched because German economy is in deep sh!t.
France: 16th century flashbacks
No kidding considering that Spain decided to remain neutral during World War II while Germany was screwed knowing that it's Buddy Spain was too busy. 😂
@@apc9714 i mean it is france that has invaded germany 28 times since then, not the other way around...
@@jurassictyrantkingYT
The WW2 references are seriously getting old.
The problem for a full Spanish integration to the EU has been always France. We are not well connected by rail, electricity grid or gas grid due to France's opposition. We need Germany on our side to counterbalance France.
I thought Spain were besties with France?
@@damienreilly4347 so did i
@@damienreilly4347 Not really, we only have 2 highway connections, rail passengers have to get out and walk through a bridge, no gas pipeline, etc. They always oppose everything we propose.
@@damienreilly4347 We are. Well, "besties" may be a stretch, but the relationship is overall good. People who say otherwise are just people nostalgic of the old Spanish Empire who think we're still living in between the 16th century and the early 19th century.
@@damienreilly4347 Not really, France has systematically opposed greater iberian integration into the continent. Just look at the gas pipelines that they declined to connect during the crisis after the invasion of Ukraine.
Hasburg bros we are so back
Habsburgos en si son la Casa Dinástica Trastamara ❤️
Charles V is smiling.
Charles I of Spain and V of Germay
Won’t matter as scholz will be out in a year
Scholtz maybe, but if the socialusts put a better candidate, which they have, while CDU mauntains theirs they could maybe safe themselves but it would be difficukt
@@jonC1208zero chance the current coalition is deeply hated which is why afd and bsw are getting so popular
And Sánchez, well, his gobernment is practically paralized, and speculations of elections being held in 2025 are growing (and they look bad for Sánchez, since he would need to *improve* on his 2023 results, which is pretty much impossible after all the scandals).
@@jonC1208 Absolutely not. The center left parties lost a lot of credibility within this government. Also last time it wasnt really a vote FOR the center left but a vote AGAINST the center right and especially against Merkels policies.
I rather think the left squandered their chances for yet another generation by being too naive and trusting the neo-liberal FDP.
Also i dont see the SPD putting another candidate. Scholz is absolutely convinced that the problem isnt himself and the SPD is notorious for horrible leadership fights. It would rather hidner than support their chances.
There will be another 12+ years of CDU ahead of us. Hooray.....
Maybe with a taint of green instead of yellow but that wont change jack shit for average germans and german foreign policy.
@@EclipseZer0 thats not ttue, he needs that the psoe, sumar, podemos, pnv, bildu, junts, erc and bng have mire seats than the others
Always remember that the Spanish Indepence Wars were from France.
Some things never change even after hundreds of years
Hey, I've seen this one! A classic!
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last 500 years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now, when it's worked so well?
James Hacker: That's all ancient history, surely.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased; it's just like old times.
James Hacker: Surely we're all committed to the European ideal.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Really, Minister.
[laughs]
James Hacker: If not, why are we pushing for an increase in the membership?
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Well, for the same reason. It's just like the United Nations, in fact. The more members it has, the more arguments it can stir up. The more futile and impotent it becomes.
James Hacker: What appalling cynicism.
Sir Humphrey Appleby: Yes. We call it diplomacy, Minister.
But they're not.
@@koenkeep I know. I just think it's funny dialogue to share.
@@anuragsinha2013 divertido y aterrador. Así funcionan
I remember reading someone's comment on this channel saying "As usual TLDR gets things half right and half wrong" as if they didn't read because it was too long.
Still true to this day about this channel.
totally. claiming that Spain is the second most producer of EV is super ambivalent, as those cars are Cupra and Seat, part of Volkswagen…
@@AbraXas-bi9ux and they are built under your basement? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@francesctorrent5186 lets face it mate, when it comes to manifacturing, Spain is nowhere on the global arena. Yet, they are great in food production and tourism. hope this does not hurt your feeling
EU politics show perfectly that there are no friendships, just common interests
"There are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests."
Always has been but the EU propaganda has many citizens actually believe it’s all love and peace.
Thats not true, there is friendship but between certain groups of countries, not one group that covers all of EU
That's what Meloni is doing, looking after Italian interests contrary to previous Italian governments looking after the EU. You have just stated true facts and reality.
@@sailor67duilio27 on the other side it will never make the EU a global player and we will be always pushed around by others
Close enough. Welcome back Haubsburgs
Habsburgs
@@baronvonjerch lo correcto es Habsburgo, ya que fue la Casa Dinástica Trastamara quien creó a la casa menor de los Trastamara que son los Habsburgo
France has never liked Iberean control, and always makes sure to keep Portugal and especially Spain from connecting better to the rich center of europe. Spain is a dangerous competitor for France, with almost the same size in land and huge energy potential
edit: Spain isn't great obviously, every place is flawed, and it was a bit over exaggerated. It still faces way too many problems to actually be the equivalent of france or anywhere near that, but it is true that they are a bit in the way, Also this is more about algeria as correctly mentioned. my bad! 🙂
This has nothing to do with Spain, the problem is all about Algeria. Making the EU more dependent on Algeria would increase its leverage on the EU, which can be a problem for France considering that Algerians are the largest foreign community of the country. Not to say that Algeria is also Putin's ally.
Well maybe it had to do with king phillipe and his invasions. I dont know what the role between France and Spain was before
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España no le debe nada a Francia, no siquiera ser vecinos.
Los franceses siempre han sido traidores no solo a ojos de los Ibéricos si no también de los Itálicos, Helénicos y Germanos.
La Francia actual está más jodida que España, si Francia parece un Califato que un país Europeo.
Well, this year on the human development index Spain is over France. Maybe you should actualise your knowledge.
Boiz are back in town, boiz are back in town !
Well since France can't be arsed to put together a proper government, I guess we need a (temporary) replacement.
If you are not a native speaker take a bow for correct application of the jewel of British English: can’t be arsed
Half of Europe usually takes more time than France just did to get a government, so don't really see your point. It might have been valid if you said that the new french government, whatever it is, will probably collapse very soon, and France is probably ungovernable for the next 1 year if not 3 because of the lack of majority.
I would do it. Put me in charge. I even give a discount on my payment.
The way France jealously walls off Iberia is incredible, as an American I thought it was hunky dory in the EU but nope.
Same old national politics that played out for centuries
France has nothing to gain from it and everything to lose since it would help an energy provider competitor.
It doesn't wall off Iberia, France doesn't want to invest in pipelines or Gas and more importantly doesn't want to depend on Algeria. You might know the history between the 2 countries, Algeria is pissed one day out of 2 about something France said or did.
@@zaydalaoui9397 Exactly. When you make yourself dependent of another country on something, you grant it a power on yourself. We could have expected Germans to understand that with the war in Ukraine but apparently they haven't. Algerians are the largest community in France, it's certainly not in the country's interest to grant to Algeria a leverage allowing it to dictate its own conditions on basically everything. As a matter of fact, that's not even on the EU's interest.
@@clementl.9566 energy provider competitor? France itself has issues with energy due to alot of the nuclear power plants actually being out of service due to a shortage on the parts necessary to maintain the plants. I believe it is actually more about strengthen their position within the EU as a leading economical member, since it would keep germany in a weak spot with industry shrinking due to high energy cost since the lack of russian gas.
@@zaydalaoui9397Spain also has problems with Algeria every other day about the sahara and Morocco and we good
What Spain and Germany want seem reasonable to me.
Europe has had decades to develop green energy. It now seems silly to complain because China got ahead developing electric cars.
You missed the point, China subsidize its electric cars, so they artifically cost less to manufacture and are sold cheaper than any european electric car. it's dishonest advatage for Chinese car makers and it will kill the automotive industry in the long Run in Europe. Germany and Spain are thinking short term.
China's electric cars are literaly death traps that explode at random
All that because left cowards politics
reasonable? they don't want to protect our industry from china, how is that reasonable?
The question is whether the EU wants to make itself more dependent on Algeria, therefore granting to that country more leverage on Europe. That's the big question and considering that Algerians are the largest foreign community in France, it makes sense that it is the first country to worry about it.
This is usually the plan when I play as Prussia in Vic 2
France is the reason Spain is disconnected with center europe. They didn't want competition to their nuclear plants, so they negated every Spanish attempt on making new connections or upgrading the existing ones. Sooner or later, being a douchebag backfires.
Very interesting and informative. I like watching stories about Spain since I've visited it for the past three summers. I also visited Berlin for the first time this Summer; and Paris last September. I plan to visit Berlin and Paris next year so I like to know what's going on politically at those countries.
I have read your comment and I am going to answer you, I am Spanish, and Spain is an energy island, it is true, 1st because of the blockade of France, our natural enemy for millennia, it is true, and because Spain we still live under the policies of Franco, and the franc policies have given good results to Spain, I explain, Spain, bound by these franc policies that have not been eliminated, right now has reserves of oil, gas, iron, aluminum, steel, and any material that You can think for more than 75 years, with the current spending, (by law I repeat laws of Franco the dictator) the same laws that force us to build highways, roads, bridges, railways, with traps so that in case of invasion they cannot invade more than 6-7 kilometers) returning to the issue of energy, as you will see Spain has enough resistance to supply raw materials to all of Europe for a long time, and it is a buffer that no one had thought of until the war in Ukraine
The overdramatic titles are a discredit to the work you put into the videos. What's the point of being innovative if you're coming at events the same the ratchet tabloids do? 🙄
At 6:57 Spain became a MEME-BER.
Macron is right about Energy, France knows very well Algeria and knows very well that you should not rely on their gas. They're also right about China, a trade war is not fun but we can't keep leting China subsidize entier industries, kill European business then buy them cheap to exerce it's influence, if EU doesn't react, it might be easier on the short term but it will cost a lot in the long run.
Algeria needs to sell its gas, and the only place it can sell it is Europe. Last year there were disagreements between Algeria and Spain, and they halved the flow of gas to Spain at the contractual minimum. Italy has doubled the import of Algerian gas, and there are agreements to build plants for the production of green hydrogen and ammonia, which will be transported to Italy as far as Sicily. Hydrogen and ammonia are the fuel of the future, in addition to 4th generation nuclear power plants.
I'd argue for diverse energy sources, so let's let everybody do nuclear and gas according to prefference. As long as it's not Russian lol.
In the midst of a horrendous civil war Algeria kept the gas flowing to the iberian peninsula without a hitch.
hes not even the only one that has refused to build new electric connctions to germnay jusr recently the swedish goverment didnt wanna build a new connection because the germans are already driving up swedish prices
There is no such a thing as full protectionism nowadays. The best you can do is what China does, free market with some protectionist policies, which I don't see the problem with. If the Spanish government wants to help the Chinese create jobs in Spain with their money than what's the issue? Besides, the EU can't win a trade war against China, they're just to diveded to create an appropriate response.
Thank you for your hard work!!
I'm a fan of Spain's policy on many issues. but the miscalculated position regarding Nuclear energy (same with Germany) is just nonsensical and based on propaganda. There are tons of evidence regarding the safety of nuclear energy. especially in the sites of the largest ever accidents (which themselves caused much less harm than fossil fuels and their related accidents).
Germany's energy problem did not start with the reliance on Russia. it started with the stupid program to wind down Nuclear energy in the country.
But for Spain nuclear is just not worth it, since building renowables is cheaper, faster and more optimal for its country
Supongo Alemania estará profundamente interesada más que en el gas actual que pueda obtener a través de España, del hidrógeno verde que se estima podría producir España en grandes cantidades con sus renovables, igual y a España le interesaría más atraer a grandes industrias con un alto consumo eléctrico a su territorio con lo barato que resulta su producción energética, junto a Noruega los menores costes mundiales a gran distancia del resto y volver a industrializarse, después de que Francia y Alemania obligaran a España para su integración a la Unión Europea a frenar su potente e incipiente poder industrial y a vender un gran número de sus multinacionales públicas, que obtenían grandes beneficios incluso manteniendo los precios de sus servicios controlados para los españoles.
They are safe. But they are EXPENSIVE, Nuclear are not worth it.
If you are a fan of Spain's policy you don't know much 😂😂😂 We are the most corrupt country in Europe
@@sesper3871 It is expensive because politicians signed an agreement to stop mining uranium here in Spain and instead buy it from France that gets it from their African colonies, the same with the construction of a centralized waste facility, it has been stalled for decades due to French involvement and we pay France to store our nuclear waste there
Oh...lol...😂...UK stirring conflict, as usual😂
You could say the same about any country at the moment. Your point?
@@bogbandit8385 Sure bud 😉
This isn't the first time the Germans and Spanish teamed up.
😂sure, but for most of history the power ratio was the other way around
For once, I support France on that.
Since this is primarily a British channel, it would be nice to see the UK in the statistics charts (even if we aren't in the EU any more). It gives us some idea of our relative positions in the statistics.
Utilitarian cars in Europe are ridicously expensive in part due to the monpolistic influence of the Renault-Citroën-Volkswagen lobby.
What are utilitarian cars?
@@VTh-f5x Utility
@@VTh-f5x Small cars.
@@VTh-f5xthings like a VW golf or polo. Which used to be less than 15k in the base models but now often start at above 25k or even 30k and going up above 50k depending on features. Meanwhile you can get a midrange limo from BYD with all the same bells and whistels as the top end Golf for less money and you save on the upkeep due to the BYD being electric.
Like teh cheapest Golf new is 29k euros and lacks many basic features youˋd expect in a new car. Like cruise control with adaptive distance(ACC can be added down the line so they literally just refuse to give you the software for it), navigation, bluethooth connectivity for apple/andriod carplay/auto, a rear view cameras, LED headlights. To get just these two you now need to get a higher end model of golf. To get all I listed you now are at 36k euros or more and essentially have added nothing else to the car.
For that amount you get MG 4 EV post tarrfis.
@@VTh-f5x A car designed to get you and your cargo from point A to point B as cheaply and reliably as possible is utilitarian, as opposed to being sporty, luxurious, spacious or prestigious and ego-elevating.
ALGERIA MENTIONED LETS GOOOOO
Not sure it would be a good match. My dad was German, my mother was a Spaniard. Oil and water. It mixes well at first but easily separates. Mixing them takes a lot of agitation, which might be fun at first but leads to a lot of frustration for those around them.
A 5mm wide microphone would suffice. That mic is not just overkill, it is ridiculous.
One thing I’ve noticed is no matter what large scale policy France agrees with continental or international, they’re somehow always surprisingly correct.
But therefore their domestic policy is a disaster.
The first country that will fall for the Islam in Europe will be France.
Their rather strong and yet insufficient birth rate is their undoing, not their salvation.
*sees title of video
Bismarck liked that.
Spain is the future of Europe and has the cultural stamina of accepting and assimilating non-European immigrants like Latin Americans and Filipinos.
As a Brit l hope so. I have more hope for you than some of your neighbours
Just for clarification, there are no Latins in America (no one belonged to the roman empire there). Latins are from Europe.
From Latin America and Filipine of course because they once belong to Spain and share most of the culture, but not migrants from north Africa and middle east, they are destroying Spain and Portugal, I saw it.
Don't be silly, the future of Europe doesn't belong to a single country, we shape it together in the EU.
Spain is literally dying out 😂 and its economy will never be on the same level as Germany and France
Hey I love your videos! Just so you know you have a typo at 6:56.
France, Germany, and Italy - and Poland! And that is said from Denmark, and I do not (as a green socialist) agree with Polish government, but I acknowledge that both Spain and Poland are to be considered great powers alongside Germany, Iga, and France
that's wishful thinking - Poland is a small middling in EU. Countries like Netherlands, Sweden, or Spain being ahead of it
@@GdzieJestNemoNetherlands maybe, but I don't really agree that Sweden is more relevant and influential than Poland. Even Netherlands can be greatly debated. Especially with how relevant EU's policy towards Ukraine and Russia is and how much the Polish economy improved in the last 10 years.
@@ivanmacgar6447 make a quick test and check how many international polish companies there are or how many polish movies or artists you heard of. Nearly entire polish economy is based on cheap workforce and foreign investment and there's no change on the horizon. We always rank among the worst is startups and anything relating to R&D.
You will never be a "great power" with such characteristics.
Hey, things are changing, don’t be defeatist! Onwards with courage!
@@GdzieJestNemo Poland is growing fast. Don't dismiss Poland. In general the whole eastern past soviet nations are recovering pretty quickly. Of course being part of UDSSR is going to leave it's mark for a while. Weird comments about movies and artists, Poland has a lot of cultural contributions in Cinema and other arts. If you don't know, just look up polish art.
I'm more curious about this energy deal between Spain and Africa. Who benefits more? How long has this been an establishment? It is rare to hear any updates about it.
Bros are willing to sacrifice long-term european economic success just to allow a handful of rich carmakers make bank for another 4-5 years.
yes and its understandable, france can make big words in this since they sell not much cars to china, or chemicals, mashines.
For Germany a trade war with china at this moment would mean a massive boost for AfD far right or BSW far left/left with right wing parts booth anti EU/NATO/USA pro russian that already use it with again the goverment wants go get into things that hurt germany and arent our business, provocate, more crisis++
Even so i hate booth parties you have to see the point of protecting your on economy and people we took a big L in the decision of helping ukraine (even so its right) sacrificed alot for it and created a boost for anti government parties Fundamental Opposition more extrem parties.
Than look what Poland did in the Ukraine Grain problem literally blocked the imports and transit of them to protect their own industry & votes... that was one industry, we got hit in basically all areas because of UK/Russian war help and sanctions and that with a big Russian-German Population part and most East Germans already anti Goverment and ok with russia + big anti US by many of them...
Dont know how it is in Spain, if they also would get more extrem parties in power because of that but¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Exactly, I can't understand how people defend this...
Now where have I seen this before...
EU : we should lower our dependency towards autocratic hostiles regimes like Russia
Spain & Germany : yes, let's cosy up to China and Algeria!
😂
Yeah, of course it's better to be vassals of a dying evil empire disguised as a "democracy" than friends with the future ONLY superpower
To be fair, I would be friendly toward autocracies divided by lots of land and sea and not currently at war with a neighboor
Algeria has no weaponry to threat Europe (apart immigration) and China is on the other corner of the world. And is just an economic partner, never an ally or whatsoever.
Let´s act as if France doesn´t have even closer relations with Algeria or China and gozillion algerians living there 🙄
For all the people making jokes about Germany Spain partnership clearly referring to their facist regimes , need to know that Franco played Hitler like a fiddle, there was never any alliance, Franco basically got free equipment off of him
Exacto, pero déjalos que escriban por escribir.
Franco ni siquiera ayudó a Hitler es más los Nazis eran amigos Forevers de los Comunistas de Stalin que en España los Comunistas mataron miles de españoles.
Franco puede ser lo que sea, pero nunca fue aliado de Hitler, ni de Stalin.
Guess the yuan pay check just dropped lol
We lost enough jobs to china but those 2 might think the unemployment isnt high enough...
seriously, the spanish PM does a complete 180 after his visit to chyna 🤔
Economy is not that simple. Letting China export electric cars to Europe keeps that market competitive and prices down, it also forces the German car companies, who were slow to adapt to electric, to keep their game up. Thus ultimately retaining jobs and expertise in Europe.
Europe without raw materials or its own energy cannot compete against those who have all that, cheaper and also lower salaries, devalued currency and open markets (without sanctions on client countries)
Is it a German-Spanish alliance or just two leaders who went to Beijing and cut similar dirty deals?
Its dramatic that we have to slow down climate rescue because of our economy.
We need those cheap renewable techs.
There has to be a better way that tarrifs.
Something outside the box.
What about a fusion of chinese and european car manufacturers?
Or china has to invest their earnings in the european car companys.
I feel like we can't let china play this game with their dumping e-vehicles
Don't kid yourselves. China has become a (the?) leading EV automotive driver. This can ease the EU (and global) climate agenda. Or is global warming not important any more?
Dumping?
The Chinese taxpayer helping the EU transition, and giving the European consumer cheaper cars?
Wouldn't be the first time they teamed up...
Remember your little adventure back in 1815 France?
Nobody expects the German Inquisition.
The reality is: Without China no batteries no EV:s
well I hope Germany and Spain can work together on pipelines and hopefully push for expansion of the EU for the western balkan nations.
It will not happen as the EU decided that if it wants to further expand then there will be majority voting which means France + Germany + Italy + Poland + Spain and others can shut up. It will not go through democratically so instead of expansion will be the exact opposite.
The whole intro ignored that Portugal exists
What a stupid question. There is no closer nor more important ally than France for us Germans. So no, while disagreeing on aspects and apparently agreeing with Spain there is not even the hint of a chance in anyone replacing our symbiotic partner
In the past yes. But not now or the foreseeable future.
Bueno quieres seguir teniendo a Francia pues tenla, pero eso sí después no digas que no tuviste oportunidad de alejarte y más ahora que Francia esta a un pasó a ser un Califato.
I'm 🇪🇸Spanish and I ❤love 🇩🇪Germany.
I don't suppose a pipeline between Spain and Italy is on the table?
It is. Is just way more expensive and you can bet the French would sabotage it.
It depends on the route, Italy has its own that are connected to Europe, either from North Africa or Eastern Europe.
😂of course it is
there's a pipeline with ships, its still cheaper than a real one but connecting the two counties is an alternative and element of interst against the france blockade!
@@GodSpeed24z L'Italia non compra gas dalla Spagna, che arriva dagli USA, ha i suoi fornitori e il GNL arriva dall'Egitto.
The Iberian Peninsula energetic isolation was good to Spain and Portugal both. They got the Iberian exception during covid and after-covid to get much lower electricity prices.
That was 2 years out of 30 years of paying twice as much while the rest of Europe bought gas from Russia. While Portugal want to export energy to the rest of Europe and benefit from it's decades long investments in green energy, It can't because both Spain and France are blocking it!
@@l23722 Wrong, only the French are blocking, Spain wants also to export energy to Europe.
@@xalau5270 Absolutely false. For decades Spain has been blocking the energy connections with Portugal. Portugal's energy market connection with Spain is Under the 10% as required by the EU, just like France. Spain is doing exactly the same to avoid Portugal's competitition.
@@l23722 Portugal can not compete without the Spanish connection with France and France has been blocking Spain for decades
@@xalau5270 Portugal CAN compete with Spain itself and that it's why Spain is avoiding that connection. Spain has bein doing that for decades and thus it is what Spain deserves from France too. FRance and Spain adn the same shit. They have always been. Every single historical and modern issue facing Portugal's economy IS the combined result of the allience between Spain and France
Even after everything, Germany and Spain are still advocating for closer ties with the PRC?
With eyes wide open l guess
Maybe we care slightly less about America's interests in Asia than others?
@@univeropa3363 I agree with Sanchez’s recognition of Palestine. That was a great move. But it’s hypocritical for Spain to have extended that recognition to Palestine, stay quiet over Taiwan, and then decide that Europe needs closer ties to China.
@@ivanencinas9259 Taiwan is part of China. By recognising them Spain would greenlight separatist movements, which they understandably don't want.
@@univeropa3363 Taiwan is separate. The PRC has never controlled Taiwan. Either way, it seems you take the PRC’s propaganda. Agree to disagree. Both Palestine and Taiwan deserve sovereignty.
Arguing that energy policies are done on the basis of a speedier green energy transition and not over competing national interests is insulting people´s intelligence.
France isn't caring about EU at all. They are always trying to restrict anything lead by Spain as the Midcat pipe or the Spanish trains entering their territory while France can easily operate trains all over Spain.
For pipelines, they're blocking any pipeline project because they want to get rid of Gas as Energy source. For trains, no foreign trains were allowed until recently (not just spain) and now Renfe is operating in France. It has nothing to do with Spain or not Spain, and all to do with Policy.
@@zaydalaoui9397the have blocked pipelines, electricity grid, highways, internet cabes and the transport ministry of Spain wants to take France to the courts for making it as difficult as possible for Renfe to operate in France
@@zaydalaoui9397Defend France all you want as ir seems to be your country, but that doesnt change many things that can be considered to be hostile done by france to Spain in the recent history.
If France closes its borders, Spain is toasted. Spain will be an island, like UK. If Spain tries to annoy France, we'll see who is the stronger, and it aint Spain. Geography matters. So calm down..
@@cykablyat6531😂 That's funny
EU consensus? When Spain and Germany have a different opinion on an issue than other countries then the consensus is not reached yet.
Can't wait for Frexit. France founded the EC/EU with Germany: French Foreign Minister Robert Schuman said in his founding speech, May 9, 1950: " The goal is to ensure lasting peace on the continent, through the development of production solidarity between France and Germany, making any clash between these two countries impossible." The Treaty of Paris was signed on 18 April 1951.
And France created Airbus with Germany when UK left the Airbus project in 1969. New York Times 11 April 1969 « Britain Abandons the European Airbus Project; *Believes Building the Plane Is a Losing Proposition* » Fortunately France asked Germany if they wanted to continue the A300 project, and signed an agreement 50-50 at 1969 Paris Air Show. Airbus is now world leader, without France and Germany, Airbus wouldn't existed today.
Will never happen. Only in the uk was eu hate strong enough, and even there they only won by 52%. Le Pen has dropped the issue, so that is now off the table as theres no significant party anymore that would push for that.
Spain and Germany teaming up against France? I've seen this one it's a 1500s classic
go sanchez! if we only had someone like him as commission president instead of ursula.
😂maybe just a matter of time
You don't want Sanchez in any important position believe me
He is a dictator
sanchez is quite unpopular in Spain xD
@@casanova8762 Democracy is a "b" witch 🤣😂. Another election will surely come. Then if your people win it will be the other side's time to say that whoever is the PM then is a dictator 🤣
It so happens all the time that some countries in the EU (or actually: anywhere in the world) happen to have similar interests in certain areas. Calling that a bromance is somewhat clickbaity.
I'm all for integrating spain more into the european core, but the weakening of french-german relations is worrying...
Unbelievable! When Daimler announced a 2 B$ investment in China, early September…. Do the Spanish believe Germany will increase its vehicle production in Spain? About natural gas’ whatever’ if France does not want a gas pipe, nobody can force them.
Can we get a stronger Poland and Romania to start influencing policy of the EU into a more balanced state, please?
You mean: less democratic, more right-wing nationalism?
No.
Simply no.
If you dislike the core values of the EU 🇪🇺 - trigger A50 and bugger off. No one will shed a tear.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
And actually lots of EV chinese cara enter Europe via Barcelona port, that helps too.
France renembering Franco and Hitler: 😰🙈💀 🇩🇪 🇪🇸
German loves EU minnows- Croatia and Romainia, which always held Germany in pedestral of racial superiority, got favour in return.
Wrong flags for Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain
What about Petain?
@@univeropa3363 Forced upon France by Nazi Germany. It was not a choice of the people.
Franco was a puppet, Hitler used to laugh at him 😂😂😂
An old saying in Spain said: "England our best enemy, France our worst friend."
The 🇪🇺EU is 2nd most powerful state in the World after the 🇺🇲US. Letting Beijing build factories in the EU is Moscow 2.0 all over again. Don't let Shulz take the EU down.
🇦🇺
US has already said they won't allow Beijing to build their factories in Mexico and then import into the US.
The CCP needs us, we don't need the CCP.
Wisen up EU
Enjoy extra import tariff to china then. Build bridges, not wall
Where did You get the information that the EU is a state. ? Pls send me a link... love and kisses From Germany
@@FranCuri-y2u
🔸US is a union of States with it's own Gov @ 340M ppl.
🔸EU is a union of States with it's own Gov & 450M ppl, EU Military is being discussed now.
Do you guys realize now about this alliance? Already Rajoy-Merkel were top allies, over France-Germany.
Guys, stop the over-the-top dramatic titles. That's 'express' level.
Downvote for this reason. That's not proper journalism - that's cheap clickbait.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
You do realize that they have to do this for UA-cam algorithms? Right? Right???
@@MrKitEA No, it's not needed. An algorithm is a tool that examines past behaviour of a user and suggests similar content.
Hence: if TLDR viewers are being presented with proper titles matching the content, containing key terms, the algorithm feeds the viewers similar content.
Greetings from a forensic data analyst
@@MrKitEA Not an excuse by anymean
Four!? The bromance is unstopable then.
Unlike Apple, which with only 2 has no hope for success.
There you realize that the EU is becoming weaker compared to the US and China when two European leaders do not want there to be tariffs on China.
true
Hey now. Something like this set off the Franco-Prussian war. ?;- )
gonna be honest, frenhc here, i don't care what's the real bromance coming from, all i care is either germany plays it faire and plays as a team or we should just go back to nationalized economies..
germany was really happy with europe when it was exporting a whole lot.. but now that germany has made a fucking hell of a mistake through the russian gas dependance, it's now looking on how to pivot to not deal with it's consequences...
Germany, now it's time to face the reality
? So, what should germany do?
sadly it looks like Germans really cant figure it out once and for all, they prefer to live in delusion with AFD reaching such a high turnout in Thuringia
@@FrankeNamensKarim realize it has fucked up with the gas dependence and engage with other european countries who has made better calls, and if they have a strategy not freaking borrow money on it's own during a crisis risking to put other countries even more at risk but borrowing money altogether with others.
germany need to start teaming up more with others, even though that means making compromise continentally.
europe has to be stronger than that, we can't let ourself being the vassal of china or the US, we need to invest on basically the same point as draghi as pointed out
@@sullfolifeSo the Draghi plan? I am skeptical given the eurocrisis.
Have you ever thought about if the french way might be a disadvantage to others or ruffle any feathers?
if you had learned anything from the german-russian gas debacle then that we should diversify our energy dependencies.
I for my part rather have addtional energy input via spain than not. Especially as it recently seems that french colonial africa will sever its ties with mainland france overtime. Which means it will become harder to get hands on cheap fuel for the reactors. Better diversify your risks.
Blocking spain from becoming an energy supplier to the EU for decades and then being salty if in times of (energy) troubles people go around your back... *pikachu face*
Gee, i wonder why the french did that in the first place. Maybe because the french nuclear program only generates more profits if they sell energy to their neighbours? Was that also the reason why france is such a staunch supporter of energy transition? Less competitions? Or why france is crying for strategic autonomy in NATO and focus shift to africa? who knows.
But i think its time to face reality: If you play foul with your buddies you will get left out of group activities.
Sánchez is not going to last in Spain, he’s widely hated. He is up there with Ferdinand the VII
Sigue soñando pringado
I dont think so, France is our strongest ally!
Even as an east german i have to admit that.
Even though France is difficult in times, which is normal for superwowers, enough interests overlap between our countries!
EU tends to only trully function when france and germany align.
In the last. Get up to speed
Superpowers? 😂 France and Germany are at most regional powers @@mam0lechinookclan607
Spain and Germany have bones to pick with France, a tale as old as time XD
Idk... Has Sanchez problems with his memory as well?
No, he’s just a liar who knows he can get away with it since his voters are sheep that will accept anything
And with his wife. And his brother. Sánchez is a crook.
@@marneusindeed
@@marneus And he is not center-left as they say in the video, he is extreme-left.
@@jabato9779Por el amor de Dios, tienes un toro como foto de perfil, esta claro donde te situas. No, Sanchez no es de extrema izquierda.
Germany is still getting its beloved Russian gas via Spain:
Priority question for written answer P-001309/2024
to the Commission
Rule 138
Juan Ignacio Zoido Álvarez (PPE)
According to a recent study by the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis (IEEFA) - an independent body with its headquarters in Houston - Spain now imports more liquefied natural gas from Russia than any other European country. The quantity of Russian gas arriving in Spanish ports has seen new highs, increasing by 30 % in 2023 and has risen for two years in a row, while the Spanish Government turns a blind eye.
Here is something to consider: Spain has it's finances in order while French debt is completely out of control under Macron. As V. Pécresse said "Macron a cramé la caisse" and it is getting worse each week.
Saying Spain has "it's finances in order" is like saying México is a Drug free country, y'all don't know absolutely nothing about what y'all say and It shows 😂😂😂
@@Many_Rivera si y no a la vez.
España tendrá sus problemas, pero no como los de Francia que ya no se ve como Francia si no como un Califato y no es de broma 😮.
España tiene sus deudas pero a comparación de Francia no se compara.
@@Many_Rivera that is you, classical cuñado
Hey, i've seen this one!
TLDR on TLDR: Germany wants all the benefits of being in the EU and none of the cost being in the EU. And is happy to trade a small proportion of its European automotive market for a much larger Chinese one.
Classic Euroscepticism.
Spaniards should not be isolated, that is despicable. Algieria is better source of energy than Russia. However, Germany attempts to isolate Poland from grants in technology and science or from companies like Samsung to build high-tech factories in Poland and we remember that so alliance with France in new technology sector would not be bad for Poland now I guess. Poland is pro 100% taxes on China. Chinese electric cars except of 1 brand are driving traps that catch fire faster than matches in hell. China is helping Russia, Iran and North Korea and EU should withdraw all its investments there to cripple their economy. Everything can be produced in Europe and jobs can be given to European workers. Borders of EU need to be protected as well.
Well 2 unpopular presidents working together not much of a shock but doubtful it would have much impact when election dont look great for either of them
I want to add as a spaniard that pedro Sánchez unpopularity is completely different than scholz. His unpopularity is 90% related to having a deescalating strategy with catalonians independentists parties while also needing their votes for everything that has to pass congress, from his government formation, to budget approval, and the independentists have used that leverage to get presidential pardons for those in jail and an amnesty for everyone else Who was related to the catalonian declaration of independence.
Because of this he is seen as weak, soft, a "traitor", etc. But most of his domestic policies on the economy, energy, etc are popular, but they get overshadow by what i describes above. He has managed to get recently the government over catalonian regional government proving that his strategy helps stabilize Catalonia, but It also makes him lose votes everywhere else.
In Germany not much in this would change
AfD and BSW wont get into power with no coalition partner and both would mean a hard anti EU,Nato,Usa, pro Russian policy.
From the Polls it most likely will be CDU in coalition with FDP + or a grand coalition again with spd.
And from CDU Point even so they have harder ton on china in most part they will do the same if not even more protection for the car industry, chemical , mashine and exports to china wont start a trade dispute or even war.
Without that they SPD etc. would get alot of hate from the Industry, be it chemical, car, machine ++ and they lose their supporter base