Amazes me how the courts gives so much protection to the perpetrator don’t allow incredible evidence for the person who is dead and can’t speak for themselves.
Hearsay unless you have a voice recording of the person claiming this person killed me. Courts don't place feelings as evidence of a crime. Other wise as humans we would put all of the people we hate behind bars, because we feel afraid of them or i don't like them. Women would have every man behind bars, if we used their feelings of dread alone as proof. The State had a weak case and used to much feelings and assumptions.. The jury said this as why they couldn't find him guilty. If during her attack she wrote down her killers name somewhere, that would be hard evidence. Courts consider this kind of evidence unquestionable. "But feelings or someone else words of what they might have heard or not is hearsay. Jury said if the state would have just proven with hard evidence and not feelings it would be a different outcome.
I don't understand. Why is she not allowed to say anything about fear? I mean, the woman was murdered correct? If he was violent, why is that not allowed? Because its hear say?
No, no one enjoys that. The person is calling that many times obviously has issues and the other person is probably staying with them d/t fear or is trying to find a way out.
This is just a thought, but perhaps, he was not just stalking her for no reason, but perhaps he was panicking because he was concerned about his wife’s safety and well-being given this is the type of “friends” she chose to hang out with (not to mention this woman’s creepy husband) …. I don’t know about him, but this woman is SHADY!!! Her little smirks… she’s having an awful lot of fun spinning tales about this poor woman whom she called her “friend”. This woman did not care about Karen’s safety. She was just there for the wild times and the drama.
Her body language and facial expressions are Sus. She seems to be trying way too hard to sell the story she is telling or to come off as credible. I’m not saying she’s totally lying, but I would bet that she is definitely embellishing certain aspects of the story.
I totally disagree. I think this woman was being truthful and protecting her friend from the jealous, creepy and seriously controlling husband. She isn’t pretending to like the defendant because doesn’t. She’s witnessed his anger and wrath and is restricted in sharing the fear her friend felt towards him - that in itself is utterly baffling.
I think the Bonnas influenced her in a negative way bc they want to keep her to themselves. Sounds like all three of them, the Bonnas and Karen, were in an intimate relationship. Why else would she be undress in their hot tub
I agree. Mr. Swift may have been an odd duck. But, that was his wife. Of course he wanted to know know what she was up to. Things were getting a bit too cozy with the Bonnas. I think both the Bonnas are creepy.
Why didn't they suspect the Bonnas? They might have called her to go back after she left to go pick up Ashley and didn't return to the Bonnas. They seem so casual and are very comfortable with the fact that they were eliminated from being suspects. Additionally, they gave a phone that Mr Bonna checked on occasionally.
@@basicallyno1722I agree. But, Karen and the Bonnas have an ugly relationship. She had two young girls for goodness sakes. Keep your clothes on around friends 🤮
I only watched the verdict, and thought I’d leave it at that. Clicked on this video, just because I wanted to listen to something while doing the dishes. Now that I’ve been watching a few minutes of this odd woman, and read through the comments, I have to watch the whole case. Seems like there were lots of weird people in this group of friends.
@@basicallyno1722married person with having kids should be more responsible and life would not be like single life!As I understand she wanted to be more independent and it's not her fault !maybe marriage was not for her..
Hello! She is needed at home for her kids! Not running around like she was single or responsibilities! These kind of women end up missing when they end up with the wrong ppls! Hubby's get the blames.
This is so weird. And even more bizarre is how it’s not even a problem to anybody. What? I have some crazy friends and we never take our clothes off for anything around each other 😂😂. Who does this kind of stuff? And if I were her husband I would divorce her in a heartbeat. That’s a horrible person.
She was swinging whilst he was trying to remedy the past. She was drunk partying with her swinging buddies. The suspects should start with that circle of disgusting friends!
Why didn't they suspect the Bonnas? They might have called her to go back after she left to go pick up Ashley and didn't return to the Bonnas. They seem so casual and are very comfortable with the fact that they were eliminated from being suspects. Additionally, they gave a phone that Mr Bonna checked on occasionally. Additionally, Mrs Bonnas was the first one to call Mr Swift to check on Mrs Swift. Mr Swift may had the motives but this is a coincidence that played out in the convenience of the Bonnas
He’ll just say she gave him reason to watch her and worry- whatever to fit his narrative. I almost feel for dudes like this- I’m not sure they are capable of seeing the error in their ways. They cannot look within. It’s always about blame.
I’m glad the judge stopped the rattling off of this witness. A lot is at stake here and she needs to be more thoughtful and respectful to all involved. So get off your high horse lady.
Yeah it’s a big thing in TN . I had no idea what it was til I moved here and heard so many people do that . Maybe the husband was keeping an eye on his wife because he didn’t swing and she met these friends and he was concerned. I don’t think he killed his wife
@@amyvaught7721I must live a sheltered life 😂. I've been all over Tennessee for 60 plus years and have never run upon that Edit. I believe 100 percent that man killed his wife.
Text book controlling, sociopath, narcissist. It’s not an over used description; it’s under used. How many tens of thousands of times does the Court have to see this before they believe how dangerous these nut job men are to their partners?
If you only knew. I assume you arent from the burg. The picture being painted lf certain people is not accurate, but i guess its par foe the course at trial. This is my First time seeing one that i understand feom more than the TV so its shocking.
@@ScratchCat-im7fei’m from the burg i think they are lying, dyersburg is full of these groups of people who are stuck in a high school mentality trying to be the “popular kids” even as adults all having these weird group things with each other trying to be these happy perfect people that are better than anyone else .
The friend is not a real normal friend .Point. She is not honest She is extrmely biased and judgemental . She is the one who is narsist and likes to rule the people Imposing her way of life on others And she finds nudeness among other people and her sleeping with a married woman very normal which i wont ...Anyway he is innocent I hope the father and children find peace and i do send them sincerest condolences
Her friend is lying about when she came over at nite on her own. Why would she go to her friends house alone and stay late. Shes covering up as she pauses and well this n that
You have to make your mind you want to be with your husband or your friends and if you are not happy LIVE don't torture your man and DO not get involved with ather people
One should be able to do both and not lose their sense of freedom or their life. The essence of life is to live it without fear or dread. You should try it
He could've left too. But he maybe didn't want to pay alimony and child support to her? Or he was too controlling to allow his wife to disobey him without consequences?
There’s a lot more here than is being explained. She’s not explaining her friend, she’s painting a picture from her skewed POV. There are people responsible for hurting this marriage.
You have 2choeses when you get Mary and have children You are a Wife or party girl I😂will Never allow anyone come to my house send her home and speak to a husband with them problem lm not a not Dr and so you not
She can't talk about Karen's fear or violence? That's crazy
I thought that was crazy too
He makes a note for his attorney "it was not 25 times I called her, it was 20 times"
😂😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤
lol!
Hahahaha!!! 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Typical response from that psychopath.
Amazes me how the courts gives so much protection to the perpetrator don’t allow incredible evidence for the person who is dead and can’t speak for themselves.
Yeah, you nailed it seem like they trying to get them off
violence against women isn’t taken seriously
@@Schattenkind.It's gotten better than it used to be but still a long way to go.
He's stalking the witness with his eyeballs. He's listening intently too, just like a tiger stalking its prey.
He was arrested for stalking his 2nd wife too when she filed for divorce
Let me guess. That's not allowed either?
@@tansywelsh1636probably not
I dont think any of the fear content should be withheld.
Yet another psychopath on trial.
Yep, one after another
It's Scary how many there are! Be careful ladies, chose wisely...
@@yvonneballesteros2600 agreed
And I bet he's going to get by on this!
@@yvonneballesteros2600always has been. It's easier for us to see it now.
He has anger issues for sure
Shame on them for not allowing her FEAR of him to be admitted. What world is this?????
Hearsay unless you have a voice recording of the person claiming this person killed me. Courts don't place feelings as evidence of a crime. Other wise as humans we would put all of the people we hate behind bars, because we feel afraid of them or i don't like them. Women would have every man behind bars, if we used their feelings of dread alone as proof. The State had a weak case and used to much feelings and assumptions.. The jury said this as why they couldn't find him guilty. If during her attack she wrote down her killers name somewhere, that would be hard evidence. Courts consider this kind of evidence unquestionable. "But feelings or someone else words of what they might have heard or not is hearsay. Jury said if the state would have just proven with hard evidence and not feelings it would be a different outcome.
@@lisamaitland157The fear is a piece of the puzzle. Not allowing them to see those large pieces makes the puzzle incomplete.
Why can't the witness talk about the wife being fearful ? It totally seems relevant
Especially if she wrote it down
Hearsay
Unbelievable. Something isn’t right!
Victim has no say through her friend.
Another man who thinks if I can’t have you no one else will Guilty
Nope another who thought that his wife would stay faithful and not a 304.
That kind of stalking in any partner is insane
Leave asap
He gives me the creeps..
They all give me the creeps 🤮🤢
Always sus when the defence say that a witness must not talk about violence.
😊😊
Kathy was hoping she would leave her Husband
He is writing things down trying to be in control
He's writing just like Amber Heard. Half the time, it didn't even seem like the pen was hitting the paper.
He got tips from watching the Amber vs Johnny trial last year
No, defense lawyers will often advise their clients to do these things. It helps their client avoid reacting badly wit their facial expressions
I don't understand. Why is she not allowed to say anything about fear? I mean, the woman was murdered correct? If he was violent, why is that not allowed? Because its hear say?
Hopefully the jury wondered why too
Because it is hearsay
This witness doesn't like David
This woman gives me bad vibes. Seems like a trouble maker.
Why are people in the world so morally gross now. Who goes to a public party and doesn't wear a swimsuit in a hot tub.
Swingers
Now? Swinging and orgies are old as time.
HE LOOKS THE TYPE…..HE WAS VERY CONTROLLING AND VERY JEALOUS OF HIS WIFES FRIENDS…..I COULD VOMIT JUST LOOKING AT HIM.
jealous of his wife, not of her friends
Thank you.
She needs to tell the truth
Possessiveness is Scary!
Why does anyone need to call a wife or husband 20 times yikes 😱 do people really enjoy this…
Because they are both multiple time cheaters ……if you wanted an answer
@whatareuthinking1 calling does stop people from cheating. Get a divorce. Hopefully, an amicable one
No, no one enjoys that. The person is calling that many times obviously has issues and the other person is probably staying with them d/t fear or is trying to find a way out.
Oh please
My ex husband used to do that all the time
This is just a thought, but perhaps, he was not just stalking her for no reason, but perhaps he was panicking because he was concerned about his wife’s safety and well-being given this is the type of “friends” she chose to hang out with (not to mention this woman’s creepy husband) ….
I don’t know about him, but this woman is SHADY!!! Her little smirks… she’s having an awful lot of fun spinning tales about this poor woman whom she called her “friend”. This woman did not care about Karen’s safety. She was just there for the wild times and the drama.
Her body language and facial expressions are Sus. She seems to be trying way too hard to sell the story she is telling or to come off as credible. I’m not saying she’s totally lying, but I would bet that she is definitely embellishing certain aspects of the story.
I totally disagree.
I think this woman was being truthful and protecting her friend from the jealous, creepy and seriously controlling husband. She isn’t pretending to like the defendant because doesn’t. She’s witnessed his anger and wrath and is restricted in sharing the fear her friend felt towards him - that in itself is utterly baffling.
AGREE!
Karen and the Bonnas were creeps too. But he should just divorce her not end her life.
He stalked his second wife , too. Nice try blaming the murder victim.
" when we were at her house , he was always there " ... ya , maybe because it was HIS house too
I believe her point was: he had no friends, hobbies, outside interests.
So he was unemployed was he?
@@josimpson7999that's what I'm thinking
He had no friends and no life so he was jealous of her friends and her life
In Australia we call it pulling a 'swifty' haha
And watching the testimony of Kathy Bona, I am concerned I thought it was the attorneys job to know the scope of the questions he is asking a witness
I think the Bonnas influenced her in a negative way bc they want to keep her to themselves. Sounds like all three of them, the Bonnas and Karen, were in an intimate relationship. Why else would she be undress in their hot tub
Definitely bad company.
I agree. Mr. Swift may have been an odd duck. But, that was his wife. Of course he wanted to know know what she was up to. Things were getting a bit too cozy with the Bonnas. I think both the Bonnas are creepy.
Why didn't they suspect the Bonnas? They might have called her to go back after she left to go pick up Ashley and didn't return to the Bonnas. They seem so casual and are very comfortable with the fact that they were eliminated from being suspects.
Additionally, they gave a phone that Mr Bonna checked on occasionally.
Or they thought he was abusive or controlling and let her stay over to be safer…especially because they knew she was planning a divorce.
@@basicallyno1722I agree. But, Karen and the Bonnas have an ugly relationship. She had two young girls for goodness sakes. Keep your clothes on around friends 🤮
The judge is on his side.
What a shame.
I only watched the verdict, and thought I’d leave it at that. Clicked on this video, just because I wanted to listen to something while doing the dishes. Now that I’ve been watching a few minutes of this odd woman, and read through the comments, I have to watch the whole case. Seems like there were lots of weird people in this group of friends.
Odd woman? What planet you live on
Why is she odd?
@@basicallyno1722married person with having kids should be more responsible and life would not be like single life!As I understand she wanted to be more independent and it's not her fault !maybe marriage was not for her..
Hello! She is needed at home for her kids! Not running around like she was single or responsibilities! These kind of women end up missing when they end up with the wrong ppls! Hubby's get the blames.
Can't agree more.
This witness is a liar. Her body language screaming that she is a pathological liar.
Tell Them about the Hot Tub
What a mess !! People undress in the hot tub, what kind of friendship is that ??
This is so weird. And even more bizarre is how it’s not even a problem to anybody. What? I have some crazy friends and we never take our clothes off for anything around each other 😂😂. Who does this kind of stuff? And if I were her husband I would divorce her in a heartbeat. That’s a horrible person.
@mikefigueroa4075 Seriously?? Divorce a wife because she undressed to get into the spa? Anyway he chose to kill her not divorce her.
@@joannephillips4110 Yes. Run from that person.
Trails in America favor the criminal, not the victims.
Another classic psychopath
She was swinging whilst he was trying to remedy the past. She was drunk partying with her swinging buddies. The suspects should start with that circle of disgusting friends!
It was him. No doubt what so ever.
The more I hear this lady the more I feel they had an intimate relationship
Her smirked while telling her stories tells you that she is fabricating most of the words she is saying. She is enjoying belittling the dependent.
This was a sham trial! Can’t tell she mentioned fear!
Kudos for this woman telling the truth about her friend
I just think this woman is no telling the whole truth
??what you mean please?
@@barbaracook7142 she's not telling the truth about all the things they did together
This woman gives me bad vibes...
Me too. Don’t care for her.
Me too. Seems like a bad influence friend. Probably liked partying and getting out with this man’s wife. This witness is bad news.
Makes you wonder when Karen was with her children! A lot of parties going on!
She is speaking about events over a period of time
My thought exactly.
The witness should stop smiling
She should be telling what they really did
Some people smile when they are anxious.
Why didn't they suspect the Bonnas? They might have called her to go back after she left to go pick up Ashley and didn't return to the Bonnas. They seem so casual and are very comfortable with the fact that they were eliminated from being suspects.
Additionally, they gave a phone that Mr Bonna checked on occasionally.
Additionally, Mrs Bonnas was the first one to call Mr Swift to check on Mrs Swift. Mr Swift may had the motives but this is a coincidence that played out in the convenience of the Bonnas
Jury got this wrong..he did it
He’ll just say she gave him reason to watch her and worry- whatever to fit his narrative. I almost feel for dudes like this- I’m not sure they are capable of seeing the error in their ways. They cannot look within. It’s always about blame.
I’m glad the judge stopped the rattling off of this witness. A lot is at stake here and she needs to be more thoughtful and respectful to all involved. So get off your high horse lady.
I agree. This witness comes across badly.
He has the countenance my dad used to get on his face when I was growing up… It was pre-blow up face
Why why why are witnesses/friends and family not allowed to say what she told them about her relationship with her husband? I don't understand.
Why 12 yrs later? The children love thier father and he's been caring for them and putting them through college.
She’s…..interesting 😳
The prosecutor made a mistake 7:00 - 7:30 Curious if others thought he did too? And what you think it was.
12 yrs later peoples memories sure have changed.
He looks so mean 🥴
This judge is hmmmm! And the conversation after an objection 😬😳 have never seen that before!
Ole karen and her friends husband were bonking lol
Sounds like a bunch of swingers to me!
Yeah it’s a big thing in TN . I had no idea what it was til I moved here and heard so many people do that . Maybe the husband was keeping an eye on his wife because he didn’t swing and she met these friends and he was concerned. I don’t think he killed his wife
Exactly what I was thinking.
@@amyvaught7721I must live a sheltered life 😂. I've been all over Tennessee for 60 plus years and have never run upon that
Edit. I believe 100 percent that man killed his wife.
@@amyvaught7721😂😂😂😂😂😂😂Ok
Yeap!!! No wonder they had issues
The defense attorney is high strung
You haven't watched many trials if you think this defense attorneys high strung
This witness is really having fun up there. She is one strange cookie.
Mmm idk, I think like_you_ might be the “strange cookie” 🙄
She is clear & articulate in describing the victim & her abusive marriage. Can't see why that is strange.
@@sarahholland2600keeping a diary of it is very very strange.
Sounds like Karen enjoyed hanging out drinking with her friends
She is gross 🤢
Text book controlling, sociopath, narcissist. It’s not an over used description; it’s under used. How many tens of thousands of times does the Court have to see this before they believe how dangerous these nut job men are to their partners?
She is not a credible witness.
Off topic: she sounds just like Andie MacDowell, amirite?
She reminds me of the FATAL ATTRACTION lady
A Disgrace
The witness is trying to scree David, that's why she's smiling. Very smug
This woman is enjoying her 5 mins
kind of a coo coo witness
A lot of people are lying on this witness stand. Like, a lot of them.
And you would know this how exactly??? 🤨
If you only knew. I assume you arent from the burg. The picture being painted lf certain people is not accurate, but i guess its par foe the course at trial. This is my
First time seeing one that i understand feom more than the TV so its shocking.
@@ScratchCat-im7fe Do you know then personally?
What a great mate this lady was for the Victim!❤
@@ScratchCat-im7fei’m from the burg i think they are lying, dyersburg is full of these groups of people who are stuck in a high school mentality trying to be the “popular kids” even as adults all having these weird group things with each other trying to be these happy perfect people that are better than anyone else .
The friend is not a real normal friend .Point. She is not honest She is extrmely biased and judgemental . She is the one who is narsist and likes to rule the people Imposing her way of life on others And she finds nudeness among other people and her sleeping with a married woman very normal which i wont ...Anyway he is innocent I hope the father and children find peace and i do send them sincerest condolences
He was not guilty on all accounts?
Her friend is lying about when she came over at nite on her own. Why would she go to her friends house alone and stay late. Shes covering up as she pauses and well this n that
Im sorry but the way she smiles while making her statements, is kind if scary. Maybe she did it 🤷🏼♀️
A shame the true crime community did not get on this case. They would have lit the way.
Thats my bffs dance teacher
More to this story. Wife’s friend and husband are suspected swingers.
The judge is horrible!
What evidence do they have against the husband?
None
If they had zero evidence i don't think it would've went to trial ?
Why are they trying him now after so long..
New evidence 😮
no new evidence
Shame on her
A journal
Your friend tells you theg are afraid for their life and you are afraid for her, she kept a journal because she cared.
You have to make your mind you want to be with your husband or your friends and if you are not happy LIVE don't torture your man and DO not get involved with ather people
So if you’re married you can’t have friends? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
One should be able to do both and not lose their sense of freedom or their life. The essence of life is to live it without fear or dread.
You should try it
He could've left too. But he maybe didn't want to pay alimony and child support to her? Or he was too controlling to allow his wife to disobey him without consequences?
@@LHP069naked in a hot tub with other men is okay?
This lady goofy as he LL_ she likes the attention and drama and she happy to be there
Why ? What a weird thing to say …🤔she was her friend and I’d trying to tell how things went
You don't like women, do you ?
There’s a lot more here than is being explained. She’s not explaining her friend, she’s painting a picture from her skewed POV. There are people responsible for hurting this marriage.
I get that from her too
Yes some people feed on other's misery I agree 👍
You have 2choeses when you get Mary and have children You are a Wife or party girl I😂will Never allow anyone come to my house send her home and speak to a husband with them problem lm not a not Dr and so you not
😂😂😂
Hot tubs are a germ haven
Ok fill in the back story . Was the wife found murdered at home or elsewhere. Why is this case just now going to trial?
Anger issues at the very least
She got in a fight at the Halloween party at farms.with Karen Karen got caught with her Karen also told her friends she had the police in back pocket
What evidence do they have against the husband?