During Radahn's phase 2 cutscene, you can briefly hear an oracle envoy's horn after Miquella exits the gate of divinity, proving he had indeed become a god
@@damienmcneff7715he means you can hear the noise of the trumpet in the ambience. Not from the weapons you can equip. The purpose of the oracle envoys is to signal the coming of a God, not the player
Nah, it's probably more of a "you're gonna spoil the moment for yourself by bringing friends to what is suppose to be a solo event, so we spoiled the experience for you before you could" :)
Hi! I always thought that the boats depicted in 6:00 were funerary boats for Mesmer's army... I realized this because since these people were locked outside the Erdtree, they were never gonna make it back to the Erd Tree for proper Erd Tree Burial... so when they realized they were doomed to be abandoned forever that they turned to old tradition and used Mesmer's Flame to burn their dead...
Given how the Godskins also have Draconic and serpentine features, and are heavily marked by the Crucible, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Gloam Eyed Queen was the previous God before Marika, with both her and her own Demigod children being killed by Marika and Maliketh before Marika became a God at the Gate of Divinity. Marika could be reaching for the Rune of Life or the Elden Ring itself in the story trailer, and may have achieved Divine Invocation with the Elden Beast when she stood at the Gate of Divinity. Not to mention how with Placidusax’s god fleeing, it would explain why the Hornsent were so obsessed with creating Saints/Vessels for Divinity, and it would explain why the Godskins have draconic features, and animal features if they were around during that early era. Not to mention how the only mandatory Godskin fight in the game only occurs in Farum Azula which has explicit ties to Placidusax and the ancient Dragons. And in Farum Azula there is so much iconography of the Twinbird, and we know that Ghostflame was used heavily in the Land of Shadow. Her being silenced and scrubbed from history falls in line with Marika’s ascension and tactics, and Marika killing her and her children would explain why Maliketh is known as ‘Death of the Demigods’ even though we never see him kill any of Marika’s children. Sure, there are theories about Melina being the GEQ, but with Messmer’s kindling and how both he and Malenia became vessels for forces like the Abyssal Serpent and the Scarlet Rot, I can see Melina being born as a vessel for the GEQ’s power after she died. Plus, while Rot as a force did exist prior to Marika’s ascension, Romina’s lore states that she potentially created the Scarlet Rot we know of today, which is what Malenia is the vessel for, and she was born way later in the timeline, so Melina being born as a Vessel of Death after the GEQ’s death still makes some sense. Plus, it’s implied that Destined Death was still a part of the Elden Ring during Marika and Godfrey’s reign, and was only removed during Radagon’s era, as the Golden Order is tied more with him than Godfrey, and plus, the Erdtree only became eternal and immutable when Destined Death was removed, cause otherwise if it was removed way earlier, it wouldn’t make sense as to why the Erdtree would sprout Golden Seeds or Minor Erdtrees, or how it was able to be burned prior to the end of the game. Plus, with Marika’s spoken echoes talking about using scholarship to understand the Golden Order, it explains why Radagon married Rennala, and why Golden Order Fundamentalism spells also reauire Intelligence. And Radagon is literally referred to as ‘Leal Hound of the Golden Order’ and Radagon ‘of the Golden Order’. Godfrey has no real connections to the Golden Order that we know of.
The GEQ is only ever called an Empyrean, and if Marika was trying to erase her from history, it wouldn't make sense to leave any notion that the GEQ had the potential for godhood. The Godskinners don't seem to be actively wiped from history either, just defeated and reduced to being very few and far between. The Godskinners in Farum Azula might have also traveled there to kill Maliketh and retrieve their queen's rune. Maliketh is feared as being able to strike down the demi-gods with greater ease than most other foes, especially since he historically defeated an Empyrean, someone who could have become a god, and as a Shadow is supposed to keep Marika in line, even though she has neutralized his effectiveness. As for Romina, while she helped manifest the Scarlet Rot in the Land of Shadow, the Lake of Rot seems to suggest that the outer god of Scarlet Rot appeared much earlier than that and might have ruined the Uhl and Uld civilizations. It's not really implied that the Rune of Death was in the Elden Ring during Godfrey's reign. The GEQ seemingly had the rune before Maliketh defeated her, hence why the rune was only sealed as a result of her defeat per the Godskin Apostle Hood, and Marika probably assembled the Elden Ring afterward. Also, since Godfrey and Marika are considered to be the origin of the golden lineage, it would make sense for their government to already be named the Golden Order at the time.
Correction on Romina: She didn't create, invent, or originate Scarlet Rot. She discovered a method of use. By weaving the rot gods influence with whatever else, she was able to, as a mortal, use its power. The rot Malenia has and the Rot the sealed god in the lake has are the same, The rot that Romina uses is the same as well, but "usable." It's like the difference between crude oil and gasoline. Romina didn't "create the scarlet rot we know today." but she's definitely where most of the incantations relating to rot that we can use came from.
I like your theory that Melina 'inherited' the Gloam Eyes Queen's outer god power like Malenia with the Rot God and Messmer with the Abysall Serpent. It actually makes a lot of sense
It‘s pretty heavily implied that Romina inherited the Scarlet Rot only after Malenia discarded it. The butterflies used to be the wings of her Goddess of Rot form. The Kindred became lost without a mother, and found a new one in Romina. That is a rather recent event.
Regarding the first burning of the Erdtree (and the scattering of its seeds), that was likely the event that instigated the war with the Fire Giants, marking the end of the Age of Plenty. And as you may remember, that's also when the Erdtree became an "object of faith", ie a projection that only those with grace could see.
As far as I heard the word Empyrean (神人) is generally used internally for many hornsent NPCs, so it is likely that Empyreans was a name for them early on. So changing Grandam's name seems to be just a cleanup
The fell god is the sun, we have a moon in game, but no sun. The erd trees light is the replacement for the sun, and the replacement symbolic imagery of the current god.
I mean in defense of them re using Pontys movesets, theres only so many ways to swing dual greatswords as a "human" shapped figure without making it look goofy.
My personal headcanon is that Melina was the Gloam Eyed Queen, sister of Messmer and daughter of Marika, that aided her in the slaughter of the Old Gods like Messmer aided in the purge of the hornsent. Then she had her killed by Messmer because of her vision of fire, maybe beliving her to be a future threat to the Order of Gold she was going to create. She was then burned alive. When Marika shatters the Elden Ring, she awakens, burned and bodyless, and goes in search of the Tarnished to fullfill her destiny, which Marika in time came to accept as well, as it now aligned with her own intrests. I know there is probably a ton of inconsistencies in my theory but it sounded cool in my head.
that's close to what i thought, but the question is how did melina have the time to become queen? and why wouldn't marika become queen in the first place? I think it's more probable of gloam eyed queen to have been sealed in melina's eye, similar to how the snake is sealed in mesmer's eye
It seems to me that the demigods are Envoys of the outer gods, not outer gods themselves. So i personally think its wrong to say melina is the gloam eyed queen, i think shes just an Envoy of the Gloam eyed queen, not the actual gloam eyed queen, because the word “queen” has not contextual meaning when applied to melina.
@@commonerknight8894there's no implication that the GEQ is an outer god though. In fact given that the text is reliable, there's proof that she was not
I don’t know if that’s common knowledge but most of Radahns big phase 2 combo was copied and pasted from Sulyvahns movesets. It’s literally the exact same thing except for the fact Radahn jumps a bit higher. It’s kind of insane to me how they didn’t even change anything with that move.
No, they're not. The tell and first two-moves are very similar, but everything after that is pretty much unique. I've fought Pontiff to death and seen it many times, and yes, it's probably a reference, but there are obvious differences apart from the first few animations. By that logic, Gael's crazy combo in his first phase is just a copy and paste of Manus' wombo combo.
For the Godslayer GS and the spiral. The spiral evokes divinity, it’s the same reason Miquella’s Haligtree crest has the helix trunk, it’s to act as a symbol of ascendancy. The GEQ (who I think was Melina from the get go, but don’t let that distract you from the theory) understood the significance of the spiral to an empyrean, to the process of actualizing the role of Godhood, and so fashioned her weapon after it. Ranni, who rejected being an empyrean, being a vassal of the greater will via godhood, utilizes no helix or spiral imagery to speak of, quite the opposite in fact, the moon being a perfect circle
@@mattb6616 not everyone is Marika, this is lazy. Radagon and St Trina are the only known "half" of other characters, and Elden Ring, compared to Dark Souls, it is a little more explicit with its lore
7:36 Holy cow, just imagine the situation where you managed to avoid all kinds of spoilers about the end, but you summoned players for Leda and suddenly "God slain". That's insane.
When I first saw those boats, I didn’t immediately connect them with the Tibia Mariners. Rather they evoke Viking imagery. The burning gold flames made me think of certain funeral practices where the honored dead would be placed into such a boat and it would be lit aflame before being set adrift. This was a way they would send warriors spirit on the path to Valhalla. It would reason that this was a funeral rite in the Lands Between, prior to Erdtree burial/reincarnation. 🤷♀️
My only possible assumption/any kind of guess as the why Radahn just leaves the mortal plain when you roll up with two friends is that perhaps the game is registering that you have killed a boss (Leda and her allies) and is attempting to kick the summons out as it does at the end of every other boss, but because Leda and her allies are an unorthodox not really a boss spanning across both your world and an "invasion" world, uses NPC data from across the DLC and your allies can remain summoned after it the fight can't really do that/the code gets fucky, but as you HAVE just beaten a boss it still tries unsure of what to do until you get close enough to an eligible boss, In this case Radahn, the game maybe then pass the parcel's that code onto him, but because the game has registered a dead boss and Radahn is still alive its not unsure of what to do so just...kills him, thus forcing your two boss completed summons out of the world finally. Could be NPC tomfuckery too perhaps, since if you do every bit of the fight right you get two NPC's to summon, so summoning your two PLAYERS instead then dragging them through to Radahn fucks with the summon parameters or something I'm just throwing my theory out there.
Best explanation for Grandam is that she was an advisor/mentor to Empyreans. She was an elder who guided candidates through the religious rites leading up to the ritual at the Gate, and Marika was her last or only charge. This neatly explains her seemingly personal hatred and the choice of the word Empyrean. The Hornsent clearly sent Marika to the Gate because they were convinced she would act on their behalf as their connection to divinity (the seduction), but she had fundamentally different plans (the betrayal)
@@tristanneal9552 yes I’m aware, that was the whole point of this part of the video. My explanation accounts for this. They could have removed it precisely because it was giving the wrong idea - they didn’t want people thinking she was herself an Empyrean. But the word got in there in the first place, the cat’s out of the bag, and what I’m saying explains it
The Helphen Steeple is one of my favorite weapons so knowing in hindsight that i potentially walked through the Helphelt carrying the Helphelt steeple just amazes me.
The fact that the incantation described the grandam as an Empyrean and the similarity between the godslayer greatsword and the architecture of the tower could mean that at some point in development the grandam was supposed to be what was left of the gloam eyed queen after her defeat as she was also said to be an Empyrean. Obviously something changed if thats the case and thats why the description was changed but its an idea that would make some sense
Strange thing I've noticed that I haven't seen anyone talk about is that the scorch marks in midra's boss arena resemble fingerprints, perhaps he wasn't to far from the three fingers after all
miquella's speech in the beginning of the fight with radahn has really strange implications about radahn's soul and the possibility that radahn's soul wasn't in the body we fight in phase 1. that maybe radahn's soul comes in, during the start of phase 2 with the red aura maybe being radahn's actual soul entering the body and then the aura turning gold could be miquella taking over radahn's soul finally after all this time.
That’s the inverse of the final boss fight as well. In the DLC the colors of Radahn’s aura changed by Miquella to turn from red to gold, whereas in the base game the final boss’s hair colors changed from gold to red. FromSoft’s art direction is always 🤌🏻
Personally I think the Godskins are Hornsent adjacent. They have bodies with animal characteristics and they have helical designs with the godslayer sword. Maybe they hunted the shaman folk. Their clothes made of their skins while the meat was placed in jars.
I got the same idea. If Shamans are used in such ways to invoke divinity it could be seen that they were already conjoined to Godhood or predisposed to it, thus why they were used as catalysts to sainthood in the jars and possibly infused into the architecture of Enir Ilim as the bodies seen in the trees, the lowest points beneath the castle and, of course, the Gate of Divinity itself. There's further credence to this through the Celebrants too. The Festive Grease shows us that whatever tradition it is that they follow has existed since before Marika's rule with its presence in the Land of Shadow hinting at this tradition having existed there too, thus potentially placing the Godskins alongside them.
Well we know that the godskins serve under the gloam eyed queen whos all but confirmed to be melina. This would imply she herself has some deeper connection to the hornsent, which would give an interesting parallel with messmer on his endless hunt. But then why would they hunt the shamans, considering melina is at least part shaman? Maybe its similar to the omen curse, but more like a blessing considering the regality of the godskins compared to how omens are shunned and brutish in comparison. Maybe the omen curse is an intensified form of the malice the hornsent had for marika before the war, shifting from something that while othering still could offer some benefits into something more crude and seemingly painful for the inflicted. Tons of interesting questions this brings up
Not only did the great katanas get a feint so did the perfume bottles i absolutly love it cause it catches everyone off guard and its actually pretty good giving you good space a locking off any chase
4:08 I discovered faints a little bit ago, also found out that they also have a follow up attack if you press light attack after a faint, pretty neat these are the weapons I found them on Great Katanas Thrusting swords + heavy -Sword Lance Curved swords Perfumes Beast claws Smithscripts -Axe, Spear, Greathammer Claws of Night
My theory (which I'm sure I'm not the first) is that the gloam eyed queen is a snake (this is why the godskin apostles have snake like features). In the DLC trailer we see Marika reaching into what I think looks like an eye of an all white snake and pulling out the golden strands. I don't think the Gloam eyed queen was helping Marika during the hunt, I think she was murdered as part of the hunt and her rune taken and used at the divinity gate. I think this is why in thr trailer the left side of the scene at the gate is gloam but where Marika is holding up the strands it is becoming golden. It's literally Marika ushering in the golden age of the Erdtree using the crucible, the gloam eyed queen, and all those corpses as the basis.
There might be a connection between the Godskins and Enir-Ilim but I think it’s just a case of different groups recognizing the importance of the spiral itself, kind of like how different cultures around the world worshiped the sun despite not communicating with one another.
The putresence knight was originally named the knight of the gloam eyed queen, idk if that means they planned on having more content with her and cut it or it means something lore wise. Either way fromsoft clearly owes us a godwyn and gloameye focused dlc, there's just way too much untapped potential
I was wondering when I'd see someone do a video on the feint attacks, I accidentally found this out myself and thought it was sick. The other weapons that have this in their moveset are the beast claws, smithscript dagger, claws of night, and perfumes, but I personally think this is something that should be expanded on more in the future. Being able to feint and cancel out of some attacks would open up a ton of complexity and skill expression in PvP.
Earned my like for that Godslayer Greatsword note. It really does look quite similar. Even if it's not a true lore connection, it's still an important connection in the symbolism: the shared symbols of spirals, life, divinity, death.
Yes, that radahn skip happened when I was helping a random with Leda. It definitely requires 2 people, as I've not had that happen when only 1 cooperator survived. You definitely need both players. I guess I'm not surprised that others are reporting this as well haha
someone released a GRET video recently that tells of 3 women who transfer their souls across different bodies to enact their will on the world, one being marika, one who transformed herself at the oh mother gesture and became the gloam eyed queen and the one who turned into nanya (I think I got the last one mixed up but you get the idea) she most likely was the old crone who taught lady ranni
The Lands of Shadow is where all death converges, which means the Gloam-Eyed Queen's power over Destined Death should logically originate there as well. The Enir-Ilium design is possibly a reference to her roots, either given to her while there or designed later. It could even be needed to draw on her power, similar to a catalyst.
There's also a feint attack on the perfume bottles. And, I haven't had had Radahn just die, but he did instantly skip to phase two the moment we stepped into the boss room.
I've been summoned to fight Leda and her allies many times and I've never seen Radahn die while running up the stairs towards him afterwards, regardless if the other summoned cooperator is still alive... Or at least, I don't remember it ever happening. There's likely something else beyond just having two coop players fight Leda and her allies which is causing that bug.
I’m not sure if they did or did not like each other but what if they did indeed work together, and Melina is the gloam eyed queen working with marika to get you to become Elden lord. Hence why she has a “seal” on her eye as almost to say something else is locked in her eye. My personal theory is Melina is the Gloam eye, and can’t remember due to being sealed at the erdtree to hide as a finger maiden and guide us. It would explain the crazy transformation at the end of frenzied flame ending and her losing the color of her left eye as “Melina” has died and the queen has returned. Please add on/disprove these claimed I’d really love to debate. Also as an alternative, marika could’ve sealed her by force, and this could also explain the gaps in memories. The memories part and the goal is what really bothers me. If anyone has better ideas about this lmk I wanna know the answers😂
I knew about the feint attacks with the great katanas. I was delighted to see the Rakshasa blade has it too. It’s cool to see it technically has more moves than the others.
Another big clue why Radagon is Messmers dad is because Rennala allows hers sister Rellana to go to the Shadowlands to become Messmers sword. The only way Rennala and Rellana would know about Messmer is if Radagon told them, as Messmer and the Shadowlands were sealed away and veiled from view. Radagon does this to help protect his son Messmer in the Shadowlands
7:08 when myself and one other were summoned for leda fight, we kept respawning in the hosts world after losing instead of being sent back. after 3 tries we beat them and moved onto radahn, where on my own and the other summons screen showed radahn standing still on the stairs where the cutscene begins, but the host was fighting an invisible radahn while dealing damage to the one on the staircase
I didn't know that the great katana had a feint attack, but I did find out that the smithscript dagger, perfume bottles, and claws of night in fact do have feint attacks.
Both Beast Claws as well as the Smithscript Daggers, Claws of Night and all Perfume Bottles also have feint attacks. From seems to really like the mechanic since they used it quite a lot in dlc weapon development.
I still very like the berserk vibe from the divinity gate in the trailer. The rising of a new godhood full of light, at the cost of many sacrifies, a bloody darken fate to paid for 1 godhood.
@4:00 the perfume bottles have the heavy feint where you'll step back doing an attack as well. I use thiollier poison perfume bottles and its great for a slightly safer attack option
Which makes sense why the Helphen Church was flooded. Those Who Live In Death are considered enemies of the Golden Order. It also leads to the Shaman’s Village…where Marika is from so it seems like a two for one deal why Marika could’ve flooded the Church. I had no idea about the Radahn thing because I don’t do co-op. I’m just bummed that we didn’t get more Gloam Eyed Queen content in the DLC. I definitely think there’s a solid connection between the Godslayer Greatsword and Enir-Ilim. The Inquisitor Fatties look EXACTLY like the Godskin Nobles. Definitely seems like there’s something of substance there.
I wonder if the Radahn dying glitch is probably the floor not spawning since you do get transported into an isolated arena to fight Leda and coming back may delay the terrain loading in causing Radahn to fall to his death
Beast Claws and Perfume Weapons have feints as well, from my own experience. Pretty neat. I always killed Vengarl's body too fast to study it's moves, but now that I look at it, I very much see the resemblance.
One theory I've had was that the Gloam Eyed Queen's people may have been the hornsent. Mind you, they may have readdapted their following and ways toward horns and the Crucible more because of Marika, and wanting to worship a holiness not of the Golden Order. Considering one of their legendary weapons is a twinblade, and their people sacrificed every last shaman we know about to the jars, it wouldn't be surprising if they did other messed up stuff.
After Leda fight, we used to be send out of the host world. I did notice that sometime the fight seems to bug before the fight, so maybe that it could after too.
About the Giant Katana Feint @3:24 section of the video. You missed 3 other DLC weapons that also have this feature as well. Smithscript Throwing Daggers, Beast Claws, and Perfume bottles have Feint attacks. Beast Claws with the Raging Beast AOW has some crazy movement since it's pretty much the attack version of Bloodhound Step. It has I frames during it's dash and you can control the direction of it too. Don't do the follow up since it stops you, just use the 1st hit and keep crazy pressure with normal attacks after and it roll catches like crazy.
His lions claw move is taken from knight Artorias in DS1 which is also interesting it’s like they used old moves we’ve seen in ds1 and ds2 and gave them to Radahn
I always thought the gloam eyed queen was melina, and because it was heavily hinted that she us the sister of mesmer, it only makes sense she was there with him on the journey. Also the fact that Melina has the knife which is a counterpart to the black knives of death, it is highly likely she was at one point a demigod loyal to marika
10:57 I just want to point out here: The Shadow Lands ARE in the Lands Between. At the top of the Sealing Tower it reads „The very centre of the Lands Between. All manner of Death wash up here, only to be suppressed.“ The old theory about the Divine Towers and the DLC being in the cloud in the middle of the map is actually accurate.
I do a lot of Elden ring coop, over 1500hrs, and have never experienced the radahn instakill. In my personal experience, 90% of the time after killing leda’s squad, a connection error occurs that send you back to your world. The other 10% everything is normal. Never had the insta kill but I have had the insta phase 2.
I have been immensely enjoying the fights against the furnace golems…chopping them up with every single weapon, while perfecting the timing of my jumps…..and later using the Hefty Furnace Pots…is awesome
With the last bit about the Godslayer Greatsword, i think if anything it points to the gloam eyed queen having been alive and active during the period of time before the Land of Shadow was hidden away. Because of the spiral motif having been the intrinsic religious belief in the lands between before the elden beast came. I would not be surprised if she had been an ally to Marika, only to have been killed off whenever she wasnt of use to Marika. Theres also the fact that the gloam eyed queen is an Empyrian. Which means she would have been chosen alongside Marika as a candidate to carry the Elden Ring as a "god". This brings me to that killing her was part of Marika's end goal of becoming the god queen. Not to mention, the thing that marika reaches into in the trailer, to pull out that rune, looks like stitched godskin. That being said as far as we know she was only killed eventually when Marika decided to remove the concept of death and gain control of it. But maybe that happened exactly in this moment, when she officially becomes the god queen, and plants the Erdtree
It would be interesting if Crystal Darts *worked* on Radahn. When they hit in the second phase, he would abruptly kill Miquella, and then fight you in a (probably much easier) secret third phase with Mogh fighting for Radahn for control of the body, where they're going full Kuato from Total Recall. Call me, Miyazaki.
I think, because everything is so purposefully vague, people will give things like the boats more meaning than was ever thought about. Odds are they had an asset and used it as it appears to be merged with other used assets.
That fire sword also resmbles the Fume Sword from Dark Souls 2. As for the godslayer greatsword being a spiral. I think that's just elden ring in general. The spiral on it goes outward towards the top showing an unraveling which we don't see anywhere else to my knowledge. If it *does* have something to do with the zone the final boss is in, then it leads me to believe that the gloam eye'd queen was a hornsent.
The promised consort Rahdon bossfight was so freaking hard dude. I was so irritated I'm not going to fight him again for a while man. It took me more tries on him than it did any other boss before I finally got him
About the radahn skip, after the Leda gank fight your cooperators are supposed to be sent home, mine were all 3 times I've gone through the DLC with my friends. It gives a "connection error" after the fade out back to the arena with the bodies in it. It sounds like the glitch comes from the game not processing the flags correctly and auto killing the nearest boss/next boss the moment they load in because its trying to send home your cooperators. Take this guess with a massive grain of salt cause idk much about the system they use for coop but it makes sense to me this way.
just a small lore comment, i would recommend checking out people like kitetales and Nameless Singer, they put a TON of effort into the research side of their videos and i kinda support almost everything they say lol, certain things i don't agree with them on but they're really small, and especially in Nameless Singer's case, if you read her essays as well, it's really hard to deny almost all of the evidence she brings up. they're just two creators who i've seen getting more deserved attention, so i thought i'd shine some light on them here as well!
random lore idea I had, don't know if anyone's said it, but what if Marika and the gloam-eyed queen are the same person, but two different expressions, similar to Miquella and St. Trina. if we assume the purge of the tower folks gods was Marika's doing, then what if sometime afterwards, the gloam-eyed queen violated the golden order and maliketh turned on that part of Marika, and Marika cast that self aside, which is how Melina came to be if we accept she is the gloam-eyed queen. just an interesting thought I had and wanted to share.
YO it was great to see the shoutout about Empyrean Grandahm! I think there's more detail in the base game pertaining to the Gloam Eyed Queen than we may recognize. Compare the Carian Royal Scepter to the Godslayer Greatsword. @Ziostorm
The boats seem to be made entirely of metal and filled with ash. Looking like they are used for burning of the dead. Maybe tied to being used towards Marikas sacrifices
In regards to the Radahn glitch what happeed to me was entirely unhinged. I summoned my friend to co-op against Radahn and right after i passed thru the fog wall Radahn immediately skipped to the second phase cutscene tranaitioning him to an early second phase with full health. I was completely baffled when that happened
The flaming boats that are on fire in the shadow tower can also be found scattered around the sunken chapel. Could some people have survived the flood on them, but were then impaled and set on fire by Messmer and his goons?
Rellana showed Messmer her Twin Moons, and she got the sword in return.
Checks out.
This is now canon
She got Messmer's Flame alright
Those are some nice moons indeed
First sentance sounds like a euphemism
FULL
MILKY PALE
CARIAN
TWIN
MOONS
During Radahn's phase 2 cutscene, you can briefly hear an oracle envoy's horn after Miquella exits the gate of divinity, proving he had indeed become a god
Imma need proof, cause I blew all three those horns and not one damn change from their melody
@@damienmcneff7715he means you can hear the noise of the trumpet in the ambience. Not from the weapons you can equip. The purpose of the oracle envoys is to signal the coming of a God, not the player
@@damienmcneff7715 smooth brain 😂
@@damienmcneff7715can you read?
Interestingly though, not a single oracle envoy in Enir Ilim, so still don't believe it.
*Miquella watches his devoted follower Leda get destroyed by three Tarnished*
"Aw hell nah, we gotta get outta here, Radahn."
Nah, it's probably more of a "you're gonna spoil the moment for yourself by bringing friends to what is suppose to be a solo event, so we spoiled the experience for you before you could" :)
@@carljohan9265god that was a terrible joke
@@doctorrtd4326 It's an edited quote from a certain scene in a popular show :)
@@carljohan9265 still not funny man
3:58 perfume bottles can use feints as well!
was about to comment this, 30 mins too late i guess :)
Even the beast claws have it
@@Stormer7000 i think most people already know those
@@mellar5864 people do not know how much space the backstep attack covers though 😂
Falx sword does as well
Hi! I always thought that the boats depicted in 6:00 were funerary boats for Mesmer's army... I realized this because since these people were locked outside the Erdtree, they were never gonna make it back to the Erd Tree for proper Erd Tree Burial... so when they realized they were doomed to be abandoned forever that they turned to old tradition and used Mesmer's Flame to burn their dead...
Explains why the fire knights look priestly
@@endlessXnow indeed
True, it gives Viking funeral vibes. And a lot of mesmers soldiers have a Viking look to them
Seeing as the boats are already connected with guiding the dead this seems very plausible.
Enir Elim has boats with coffins in them as decorative pieces
Cant forget that only did the great katanas get that feint, but the perfumer bottles also received one as well
Beast claws too
Falx as well
and the beast claw weapons and the claws of night
@@Shinrakaichu it's a curved sword so it always have feint, but the throwing daggers also have a feint
@@Shinrakaichu falx is a curved sword so yeah it would have feint. All curved swords have that move.
Furnace Golem hits us with the surprised pikachu face when knocked down lol
Given how the Godskins also have Draconic and serpentine features, and are heavily marked by the Crucible, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Gloam Eyed Queen was the previous God before Marika, with both her and her own Demigod children being killed by Marika and Maliketh before Marika became a God at the Gate of Divinity.
Marika could be reaching for the Rune of Life or the Elden Ring itself in the story trailer, and may have achieved Divine Invocation with the Elden Beast when she stood at the Gate of Divinity.
Not to mention how with Placidusax’s god fleeing, it would explain why the Hornsent were so obsessed with creating Saints/Vessels for Divinity, and it would explain why the Godskins have draconic features, and animal features if they were around during that early era.
Not to mention how the only mandatory Godskin fight in the game only occurs in Farum Azula which has explicit ties to Placidusax and the ancient Dragons. And in Farum Azula there is so much iconography of the Twinbird, and we know that Ghostflame was used heavily in the Land of Shadow.
Her being silenced and scrubbed from history falls in line with Marika’s ascension and tactics, and Marika killing her and her children would explain why Maliketh is known as ‘Death of the Demigods’ even though we never see him kill any of Marika’s children.
Sure, there are theories about Melina being the GEQ, but with Messmer’s kindling and how both he and Malenia became vessels for forces like the Abyssal Serpent and the Scarlet Rot, I can see Melina being born as a vessel for the GEQ’s power after she died. Plus, while Rot as a force did exist prior to Marika’s ascension, Romina’s lore states that she potentially created the Scarlet Rot we know of today, which is what Malenia is the vessel for, and she was born way later in the timeline, so Melina being born as a Vessel of Death after the GEQ’s death still makes some sense.
Plus, it’s implied that Destined Death was still a part of the Elden Ring during Marika and Godfrey’s reign, and was only removed during Radagon’s era, as the Golden Order is tied more with him than Godfrey, and plus, the Erdtree only became eternal and immutable when Destined Death was removed, cause otherwise if it was removed way earlier, it wouldn’t make sense as to why the Erdtree would sprout Golden Seeds or Minor Erdtrees, or how it was able to be burned prior to the end of the game.
Plus, with Marika’s spoken echoes talking about using scholarship to understand the Golden Order, it explains why Radagon married Rennala, and why Golden Order Fundamentalism spells also reauire Intelligence.
And Radagon is literally referred to as ‘Leal Hound of the Golden Order’ and Radagon ‘of the Golden Order’. Godfrey has no real connections to the Golden Order that we know of.
The GEQ is only ever called an Empyrean, and if Marika was trying to erase her from history, it wouldn't make sense to leave any notion that the GEQ had the potential for godhood. The Godskinners don't seem to be actively wiped from history either, just defeated and reduced to being very few and far between. The Godskinners in Farum Azula might have also traveled there to kill Maliketh and retrieve their queen's rune.
Maliketh is feared as being able to strike down the demi-gods with greater ease than most other foes, especially since he historically defeated an Empyrean, someone who could have become a god, and as a Shadow is supposed to keep Marika in line, even though she has neutralized his effectiveness. As for Romina, while she helped manifest the Scarlet Rot in the Land of Shadow, the Lake of Rot seems to suggest that the outer god of Scarlet Rot appeared much earlier than that and might have ruined the Uhl and Uld civilizations.
It's not really implied that the Rune of Death was in the Elden Ring during Godfrey's reign. The GEQ seemingly had the rune before Maliketh defeated her, hence why the rune was only sealed as a result of her defeat per the Godskin Apostle Hood, and Marika probably assembled the Elden Ring afterward. Also, since Godfrey and Marika are considered to be the origin of the golden lineage, it would make sense for their government to already be named the Golden Order at the time.
Correction on Romina:
She didn't create, invent, or originate Scarlet Rot. She discovered a method of use. By weaving the rot gods influence with whatever else, she was able to, as a mortal, use its power. The rot Malenia has and the Rot the sealed god in the lake has are the same, The rot that Romina uses is the same as well, but "usable." It's like the difference between crude oil and gasoline. Romina didn't "create the scarlet rot we know today." but she's definitely where most of the incantations relating to rot that we can use came from.
I like your theory that Melina 'inherited' the Gloam Eyes Queen's outer god power like Malenia with the Rot God and Messmer with the Abysall Serpent. It actually makes a lot of sense
It‘s pretty heavily implied that Romina inherited the Scarlet Rot only after Malenia discarded it.
The butterflies used to be the wings of her Goddess of Rot form. The Kindred became lost without a mother, and found a new one in Romina.
That is a rather recent event.
Regarding the first burning of the Erdtree (and the scattering of its seeds), that was likely the event that instigated the war with the Fire Giants, marking the end of the Age of Plenty. And as you may remember, that's also when the Erdtree became an "object of faith", ie a projection that only those with grace could see.
As far as I heard the word Empyrean (神人) is generally used internally for many hornsent NPCs, so it is likely that Empyreans was a name for them early on. So changing Grandam's name seems to be just a cleanup
so they basically butchered any interest left in the character when she is actually an empyrean
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735Uhhhh, it's just a tidying and clarifying, not a bloodbath.
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735 ...what?
@@kaiserdetectivegolden2735me when I'm off my meds
@@PixelOverload Do not waste your time. This guy not well in the head.
The fell god is the sun, we have a moon in game, but no sun. The erd trees light is the replacement for the sun, and the replacement symbolic imagery of the current god.
I've seen a sun in game, seen it set too
@@dezerogue5396 correction, yeah we do have a sun, but what’s the brightest thing currently, and what would be the brightest thing prior?
Wut@@Sugoidoll
@@Sugoidoll brightest thing is a glow stone... pr the power of friendship
I agree with this. There's a weapon (like a hand scythe thing) that's basically a half-sun, and coats itself with the flames of the fell god
I mean in defense of them re using Pontys movesets, theres only so many ways to swing dual greatswords as a "human" shapped figure without making it look goofy.
My personal headcanon is that Melina was the Gloam Eyed Queen, sister of Messmer and daughter of Marika, that aided her in the slaughter of the Old Gods like Messmer aided in the purge of the hornsent. Then she had her killed by Messmer because of her vision of fire, maybe beliving her to be a future threat to the Order of Gold she was going to create. She was then burned alive. When Marika shatters the Elden Ring, she awakens, burned and bodyless, and goes in search of the Tarnished to fullfill her destiny, which Marika in time came to accept as well, as it now aligned with her own intrests. I know there is probably a ton of inconsistencies in my theory but it sounded cool in my head.
that's close to what i thought, but the question is how did melina have the time to become queen? and why wouldn't marika become queen in the first place? I think it's more probable of gloam eyed queen to have been sealed in melina's eye, similar to how the snake is sealed in mesmer's eye
It seems to me that the demigods are Envoys of the outer gods, not outer gods themselves.
So i personally think its wrong to say melina is the gloam eyed queen, i think shes just an Envoy of the Gloam eyed queen, not the actual gloam eyed queen, because the word “queen” has not contextual meaning when applied to melina.
Maliketh almost certainly killed whomever the Gloam Eyed Queen was based on everything we know in the lore. THE GEQ is dead as hell
@@commonerknight8894there's no implication that the GEQ is an outer god though. In fact given that the text is reliable, there's proof that she was not
I don’t know if that’s common knowledge but most of Radahns big phase 2 combo was copied and pasted from Sulyvahns movesets. It’s literally the exact same thing except for the fact Radahn jumps a bit higher. It’s kind of insane to me how they didn’t even change anything with that move.
I don't know how people are still surprised by From re-using animations when we've been seeing the Artorias flip for 13 years
Nah they are similar but just the rythm is the same. Sulyvahn uses thrusts and no aoe, while Radahn does only slashes with an aoe.
No, they're not. The tell and first two-moves are very similar, but everything after that is pretty much unique. I've fought Pontiff to death and seen it many times, and yes, it's probably a reference, but there are obvious differences apart from the first few animations. By that logic, Gael's crazy combo in his first phase is just a copy and paste of Manus' wombo combo.
There really isn't too much you can do with dual wielding swords, so you are bound to run into similarities.
They're not exactly the same stop spreading misinformation
For the Godslayer GS and the spiral. The spiral evokes divinity, it’s the same reason Miquella’s Haligtree crest has the helix trunk, it’s to act as a symbol of ascendancy.
The GEQ (who I think was Melina from the get go, but don’t let that distract you from the theory) understood the significance of the spiral to an empyrean, to the process of actualizing the role of Godhood, and so fashioned her weapon after it.
Ranni, who rejected being an empyrean, being a vassal of the greater will via godhood, utilizes no helix or spiral imagery to speak of, quite the opposite in fact, the moon being a perfect circle
the god slayer greatsword is an unraveling spiral, sacret relic sword made from radagon (a god) is a tightening spiral
@@jirihorak784 yeah, an unraveling spiral, an unraveling of the gods the hornsent made, to be remade into the visages of the godskins
It is not Marika, she defeated the queen
Melina is Marika's wakemi/bunshin/separate body like Millicent is to Malenia. Marika was the Gloam Eyed Queen and Melina inherits this.
@@mattb6616 not everyone is Marika, this is lazy. Radagon and St Trina are the only known "half" of other characters, and Elden Ring, compared to Dark Souls, it is a little more explicit with its lore
7:36 Holy cow, just imagine the situation where you managed to avoid all kinds of spoilers about the end, but you summoned players for Leda and suddenly "God slain". That's insane.
I'm surprised you didn't mention it but the claws of night also have a faint attack
The beast claws also have a feint attack.
Same with light greatswords
When I first saw those boats, I didn’t immediately connect them with the Tibia Mariners. Rather they evoke Viking imagery. The burning gold flames made me think of certain funeral practices where the honored dead would be placed into such a boat and it would be lit aflame before being set adrift. This was a way they would send warriors spirit on the path to Valhalla.
It would reason that this was a funeral rite in the Lands Between, prior to Erdtree burial/reincarnation. 🤷♀️
Yeah I feel it's reminiscent of norse burial practises, they could get pretty wacky
About Feints, you forgot to mention that the Beast Claws, Perfume Bottles AND the Smithscript Daggers have them as well
My only possible assumption/any kind of guess as the why Radahn just leaves the mortal plain when you roll up with two friends is that perhaps the game is registering that you have killed a boss (Leda and her allies) and is attempting to kick the summons out as it does at the end of every other boss, but because Leda and her allies are an unorthodox not really a boss spanning across both your world and an "invasion" world, uses NPC data from across the DLC and your allies can remain summoned after it the fight can't really do that/the code gets fucky, but as you HAVE just beaten a boss it still tries unsure of what to do until you get close enough to an eligible boss, In this case Radahn, the game maybe then pass the parcel's that code onto him, but because the game has registered a dead boss and Radahn is still alive its not unsure of what to do so just...kills him, thus forcing your two boss completed summons out of the world finally.
Could be NPC tomfuckery too perhaps, since if you do every bit of the fight right you get two NPC's to summon, so summoning your two PLAYERS instead then dragging them through to Radahn fucks with the summon parameters or something I'm just throwing my theory out there.
Best explanation for Grandam is that she was an advisor/mentor to Empyreans. She was an elder who guided candidates through the religious rites leading up to the ritual at the Gate, and Marika was her last or only charge. This neatly explains her seemingly personal hatred and the choice of the word Empyrean. The Hornsent clearly sent Marika to the Gate because they were convinced she would act on their behalf as their connection to divinity (the seduction), but she had fundamentally different plans (the betrayal)
Well they completely changed the name even in Japanese. She now has no connection to Empyreans.
I wonder if it was a mistake or intentional. This is the bit of lorehunting I dislike the most 🤔😓
@@tristanneal9552 yes I’m aware, that was the whole point of this part of the video. My explanation accounts for this. They could have removed it precisely because it was giving the wrong idea - they didn’t want people thinking she was herself an Empyrean. But the word got in there in the first place, the cat’s out of the bag, and what I’m saying explains it
The Helphen Steeple is one of my favorite weapons so knowing in hindsight that i potentially walked through the Helphelt carrying the Helphelt steeple just amazes me.
The fact that the incantation described the grandam as an Empyrean and the similarity between the godslayer greatsword and the architecture of the tower could mean that at some point in development the grandam was supposed to be what was left of the gloam eyed queen after her defeat as she was also said to be an Empyrean.
Obviously something changed if thats the case and thats why the description was changed but its an idea that would make some sense
Radahn learned his lesson from gank fights the first time around and just nopes out
lad used the Patches war tactics.
Strange thing I've noticed that I haven't seen anyone talk about is that the scorch marks in midra's boss arena resemble fingerprints, perhaps he wasn't to far from the three fingers after all
miquella's speech in the beginning of the fight with radahn has really strange implications about radahn's soul and the possibility that radahn's soul wasn't in the body we fight in phase 1. that maybe radahn's soul comes in, during the start of phase 2 with the red aura maybe being radahn's actual soul entering the body and then the aura turning gold could be miquella taking over radahn's soul finally after all this time.
I've wondered about the red aura turning gold thing, but I don't think this is it. Radahn's probably just getting mad and Miquella suppresses his rage
@marvcollins7842 If that's the case then damn bros actually salty af 💀
That’s the inverse of the final boss fight as well. In the DLC the colors of Radahn’s aura changed by Miquella to turn from red to gold, whereas in the base game the final boss’s hair colors changed from gold to red. FromSoft’s art direction is always 🤌🏻
Personally I think the Godskins are Hornsent adjacent. They have bodies with animal characteristics and they have helical designs with the godslayer sword.
Maybe they hunted the shaman folk. Their clothes made of their skins while the meat was placed in jars.
They hunted hornsent listen they loved to invoke divinity on themselves so they could have god skin
I got the same idea. If Shamans are used in such ways to invoke divinity it could be seen that they were already conjoined to Godhood or predisposed to it, thus why they were used as catalysts to sainthood in the jars and possibly infused into the architecture of Enir Ilim as the bodies seen in the trees, the lowest points beneath the castle and, of course, the Gate of Divinity itself.
There's further credence to this through the Celebrants too. The Festive Grease shows us that whatever tradition it is that they follow has existed since before Marika's rule with its presence in the Land of Shadow hinting at this tradition having existed there too, thus potentially placing the Godskins alongside them.
Pretty sure the god skins are born from the serpent amnion, while the hornsent originate from the crucible.
Well we know that the godskins serve under the gloam eyed queen whos all but confirmed to be melina. This would imply she herself has some deeper connection to the hornsent, which would give an interesting parallel with messmer on his endless hunt. But then why would they hunt the shamans, considering melina is at least part shaman? Maybe its similar to the omen curse, but more like a blessing considering the regality of the godskins compared to how omens are shunned and brutish in comparison. Maybe the omen curse is an intensified form of the malice the hornsent had for marika before the war, shifting from something that while othering still could offer some benefits into something more crude and seemingly painful for the inflicted. Tons of interesting questions this brings up
Not only did the great katanas get a feint so did the perfume bottles i absolutly love it cause it catches everyone off guard and its actually pretty good giving you good space a locking off any chase
4:08 I discovered faints a little bit ago, also found out that they also have a follow up attack if you press light attack after a faint, pretty neat
these are the weapons I found them on
Great Katanas
Thrusting swords + heavy -Sword Lance
Curved swords
Perfumes
Beast claws
Smithscripts -Axe, Spear, Greathammer
Claws of Night
Radahn and Miquella have a heart attack after seeing your holy gank mollywhop. Cannon explanation for that bug.
The Radahn instakill happened to me and I was so confused! I thought my phantom was a cheater LOL
My theory (which I'm sure I'm not the first) is that the gloam eyed queen is a snake (this is why the godskin apostles have snake like features). In the DLC trailer we see Marika reaching into what I think looks like an eye of an all white snake and pulling out the golden strands.
I don't think the Gloam eyed queen was helping Marika during the hunt, I think she was murdered as part of the hunt and her rune taken and used at the divinity gate. I think this is why in thr trailer the left side of the scene at the gate is gloam but where Marika is holding up the strands it is becoming golden. It's literally Marika ushering in the golden age of the Erdtree using the crucible, the gloam eyed queen, and all those corpses as the basis.
There might be a connection between the Godskins and Enir-Ilim but I think it’s just a case of different groups recognizing the importance of the spiral itself, kind of like how different cultures around the world worshiped the sun despite not communicating with one another.
are we not gonna talk about how Miquella on Radahns back is just Griffith riding Zodd
Both of the new beast claw weapons, the Claws of Night, throwing daggers and the perfume bottles have a feint move. Probably more.
In the end, this whole voyage… It was all about friendship!! 😮😂
7:14 the hardest skip ever, not only you need two friends, but you also need them not to suck at the game lmao
throwing knives have faint charged attacks too.
As well as perfumes
beast claws also
The putresence knight was originally named the knight of the gloam eyed queen, idk if that means they planned on having more content with her and cut it or it means something lore wise. Either way fromsoft clearly owes us a godwyn and gloameye focused dlc, there's just way too much untapped potential
I was wondering when I'd see someone do a video on the feint attacks, I accidentally found this out myself and thought it was sick. The other weapons that have this in their moveset are the beast claws, smithscript dagger, claws of night, and perfumes, but I personally think this is something that should be expanded on more in the future. Being able to feint and cancel out of some attacks would open up a ton of complexity and skill expression in PvP.
Not only Great Catana received "faint" in the DLC but also new Perfume Bottles (weapon) as well.
My favorite change was Gaius' start location in his fight.
You actually get to walk in now lol
Earned my like for that Godslayer Greatsword note. It really does look quite similar. Even if it's not a true lore connection, it's still an important connection in the symbolism: the shared symbols of spirals, life, divinity, death.
Leda: *felled by the tarnished*
Miquella: "Oh no. Anyway.........."
Yes, that radahn skip happened when I was helping a random with Leda. It definitely requires 2 people, as I've not had that happen when only 1 cooperator survived. You definitely need both players. I guess I'm not surprised that others are reporting this as well haha
How didn’t you see boats?
I think the tibia boats are probably the actual boats we see in elden ring. Almost the the corrupted monk in sekiro
Undead race pfp !
someone released a GRET video recently that tells of 3 women who transfer their souls across different bodies to enact their will on the world, one being marika, one who transformed herself at the oh mother gesture and became the gloam eyed queen and the one who turned into nanya (I think I got the last one mixed up but you get the idea) she most likely was the old crone who taught lady ranni
The Lands of Shadow is where all death converges, which means the Gloam-Eyed Queen's power over Destined Death should logically originate there as well. The Enir-Ilium design is possibly a reference to her roots, either given to her while there or designed later. It could even be needed to draw on her power, similar to a catalyst.
Holy shit, the katana faint is the monster hunter fade slash, they really just took the whole moveset lol
Isn't it based off, like actual katana moves?
@@hairlessgrizzly559the basic combo is, the fade slash is fully fantasy.
@@jplichta well, if they're gonna copy something, might as well be Peak Hunter
There's also a feint attack on the perfume bottles. And, I haven't had had Radahn just die, but he did instantly skip to phase two the moment we stepped into the boss room.
I've been summoned to fight Leda and her allies many times and I've never seen Radahn die while running up the stairs towards him afterwards, regardless if the other summoned cooperator is still alive... Or at least, I don't remember it ever happening.
There's likely something else beyond just having two coop players fight Leda and her allies which is causing that bug.
I’m not sure if they did or did not like each other but what if they did indeed work together, and Melina is the gloam eyed queen working with marika to get you to become Elden lord. Hence why she has a “seal” on her eye as almost to say something else is locked in her eye. My personal theory is Melina is the Gloam eye, and can’t remember due to being sealed at the erdtree to hide as a finger maiden and guide us. It would explain the crazy transformation at the end of frenzied flame ending and her losing the color of her left eye as “Melina” has died and the queen has returned. Please add on/disprove these claimed I’d really love to debate.
Also as an alternative, marika could’ve sealed her by force, and this could also explain the gaps in memories. The memories part and the goal is what really bothers me. If anyone has better ideas about this lmk I wanna know the answers😂
maliketh sealed her eyes. her eye has a beasts claw on it. and messmer burnd her body.
I knew about the feint attacks with the great katanas. I was delighted to see the Rakshasa blade has it too. It’s cool to see it technically has more moves than the others.
Interesting how Mesmer’s sword has the same shape as Marika’s rune 6:53, and the godslayer great sword has the same as the rune of death 9:49
Another big clue why Radagon is Messmers dad is because Rennala allows hers sister Rellana to go to the Shadowlands to become Messmers sword. The only way Rennala and Rellana would know about Messmer is if Radagon told them, as Messmer and the Shadowlands were sealed away and veiled from view. Radagon does this to help protect his son Messmer in the Shadowlands
7:08 when myself and one other were summoned for leda fight, we kept respawning in the hosts world after losing instead of being sent back. after 3 tries we beat them and moved onto radahn, where on my own and the other summons screen showed radahn standing still on the stairs where the cutscene begins, but the host was fighting an invisible radahn while dealing damage to the one on the staircase
Night claw, smithing dagger, perfume bottles and beast claw also have backstep attack after pressing charge atk+ backsteb
I didn't know that the great katana had a feint attack, but I did find out that the smithscript dagger, perfume bottles, and claws of night in fact do have feint attacks.
The perfumer bottles also have a faint most people probably never noticed since they’re an underpowered weapon category overall
Both Beast Claws as well as the Smithscript Daggers, Claws of Night and all Perfume Bottles also have feint attacks. From seems to really like the mechanic since they used it quite a lot in dlc weapon development.
If you look at frostmourne up close, you can actually see the same stained windows as the part of the shadow church that leads to the scadubiedoo.
The first thing I did when I got the great katana was check if it had a Feint move lol
I still very like the berserk vibe from the divinity gate in the trailer. The rising of a new godhood full of light, at the cost of many sacrifies, a bloody darken fate to paid for 1 godhood.
@4:00 the perfume bottles have the heavy feint where you'll step back doing an attack as well. I use thiollier poison perfume bottles and its great for a slightly safer attack option
Which makes sense why the Helphen Church was flooded. Those Who Live In Death are considered enemies of the Golden Order. It also leads to the Shaman’s Village…where Marika is from so it seems like a two for one deal why Marika could’ve flooded the Church.
I had no idea about the Radahn thing because I don’t do co-op.
I’m just bummed that we didn’t get more Gloam Eyed Queen content in the DLC. I definitely think there’s a solid connection between the Godslayer Greatsword and Enir-Ilim. The Inquisitor Fatties look EXACTLY like the Godskin Nobles. Definitely seems like there’s something of substance there.
I wonder if the Radahn dying glitch is probably the floor not spawning since you do get transported into an isolated arena to fight Leda and coming back may delay the terrain loading in causing Radahn to fall to his death
Beast Claws and Perfume Weapons have feints as well, from my own experience. Pretty neat.
I always killed Vengarl's body too fast to study it's moves, but now that I look at it, I very much see the resemblance.
One theory I've had was that the Gloam Eyed Queen's people may have been the hornsent. Mind you, they may have readdapted their following and ways toward horns and the Crucible more because of Marika, and wanting to worship a holiness not of the Golden Order. Considering one of their legendary weapons is a twinblade, and their people sacrificed every last shaman we know about to the jars, it wouldn't be surprising if they did other messed up stuff.
After Leda fight, we used to be send out of the host world. I did notice that sometime the fight seems to bug before the fight, so maybe that it could after too.
Perfume bottles have feints as well. Cool little upward spray
About the Giant Katana Feint @3:24 section of the video. You missed 3 other DLC weapons that also have this feature as well. Smithscript Throwing Daggers, Beast Claws, and Perfume bottles have Feint attacks.
Beast Claws with the Raging Beast AOW has some crazy movement since it's pretty much the attack version of Bloodhound Step. It has I frames during it's dash and you can control the direction of it too. Don't do the follow up since it stops you, just use the 1st hit and keep crazy pressure with normal attacks after and it roll catches like crazy.
3:23 Throwblade weapon class (smithscript dagger) also gets the R2 feint! It's my fav weapon from the dlc
His lions claw move is taken from knight Artorias in DS1 which is also interesting it’s like they used old moves we’ve seen in ds1 and ds2 and gave them to Radahn
I always thought the gloam eyed queen was melina, and because it was heavily hinted that she us the sister of mesmer, it only makes sense she was there with him on the journey. Also the fact that Melina has the knife which is a counterpart to the black knives of death, it is highly likely she was at one point a demigod loyal to marika
4:00 Parfumes, beast claws, Smithscript Dagger, Claws of Night, and Smithscript Cirque also have the feint.
10:57 I just want to point out here: The Shadow Lands ARE in the Lands Between. At the top of the Sealing Tower it reads „The very centre of the Lands Between. All manner of Death wash up here, only to be suppressed.“
The old theory about the Divine Towers and the DLC being in the cloud in the middle of the map is actually accurate.
I do a lot of Elden ring coop, over 1500hrs, and have never experienced the radahn instakill. In my personal experience, 90% of the time after killing leda’s squad, a connection error occurs that send you back to your world. The other 10% everything is normal. Never had the insta kill but I have had the insta phase 2.
Radahn instakill threw me for a loop first time 😂
I have been immensely enjoying the fights against the furnace golems…chopping them up with every single weapon, while perfecting the timing of my jumps…..and later using the Hefty Furnace Pots…is awesome
You can do faints with the beast claws as well. They have a pretty cool attack and a huge roll.
That shot of Marika at the divine gate never gets old
With the last bit about the Godslayer Greatsword, i think if anything it points to the gloam eyed queen having been alive and active during the period of time before the Land of Shadow was hidden away. Because of the spiral motif having been the intrinsic religious belief in the lands between before the elden beast came. I would not be surprised if she had been an ally to Marika, only to have been killed off whenever she wasnt of use to Marika.
Theres also the fact that the gloam eyed queen is an Empyrian. Which means she would have been chosen alongside Marika as a candidate to carry the Elden Ring as a "god". This brings me to that killing her was part of Marika's end goal of becoming the god queen.
Not to mention, the thing that marika reaches into in the trailer, to pull out that rune, looks like stitched godskin. That being said as far as we know she was only killed eventually when Marika decided to remove the concept of death and gain control of it. But maybe that happened exactly in this moment, when she officially becomes the god queen, and plants the Erdtree
It would be interesting if Crystal Darts *worked* on Radahn. When they hit in the second phase, he would abruptly kill Miquella, and then fight you in a (probably much easier) secret third phase with Mogh fighting for Radahn for control of the body, where they're going full Kuato from Total Recall. Call me, Miyazaki.
I think, because everything is so purposefully vague, people will give things like the boats more meaning than was ever thought about. Odds are they had an asset and used it as it appears to be merged with other used assets.
That fire sword also resmbles the Fume Sword from Dark Souls 2. As for the godslayer greatsword being a spiral. I think that's just elden ring in general. The spiral on it goes outward towards the top showing an unraveling which we don't see anywhere else to my knowledge. If it *does* have something to do with the zone the final boss is in, then it leads me to believe that the gloam eye'd queen was a hornsent.
The promised consort Rahdon bossfight was so freaking hard dude. I was so irritated I'm not going to fight him again for a while man. It took me more tries on him than it did any other boss before I finally got him
About the radahn skip, after the Leda gank fight your cooperators are supposed to be sent home, mine were all 3 times I've gone through the DLC with my friends. It gives a "connection error" after the fade out back to the arena with the bodies in it. It sounds like the glitch comes from the game not processing the flags correctly and auto killing the nearest boss/next boss the moment they load in because its trying to send home your cooperators. Take this guess with a massive grain of salt cause idk much about the system they use for coop but it makes sense to me this way.
On the Furnace golems, you can easily stagger them using the Knight’s Lightning spears
just a small lore comment, i would recommend checking out people like kitetales and Nameless Singer, they put a TON of effort into the research side of their videos and i kinda support almost everything they say lol, certain things i don't agree with them on but they're really small, and especially in Nameless Singer's case, if you read her essays as well, it's really hard to deny almost all of the evidence she brings up. they're just two creators who i've seen getting more deserved attention, so i thought i'd shine some light on them here as well!
random lore idea I had, don't know if anyone's said it, but what if Marika and the gloam-eyed queen are the same person, but two different expressions, similar to Miquella and St. Trina. if we assume the purge of the tower folks gods was Marika's doing, then what if sometime afterwards, the gloam-eyed queen violated the golden order and maliketh turned on that part of Marika, and Marika cast that self aside, which is how Melina came to be if we accept she is the gloam-eyed queen. just an interesting thought I had and wanted to share.
YO it was great to see the shoutout about Empyrean Grandahm! I think there's more detail in the base game pertaining to the Gloam Eyed Queen than we may recognize. Compare the Carian Royal Scepter to the Godslayer Greatsword. @Ziostorm
Perfume bottles also have feint attacks probably the coolest one in my opinion
The boats seem to be made entirely of metal and filled with ash. Looking like they are used for burning of the dead. Maybe tied to being used towards Marikas sacrifices
In regards to the Radahn glitch what happeed to me was entirely unhinged. I summoned my friend to co-op against Radahn and right after i passed thru the fog wall Radahn immediately skipped to the second phase cutscene tranaitioning him to an early second phase with full health. I was completely baffled when that happened
The furnace golem be like “ ohhhh noho! “ 😂
That bug never happened to me. Both my coop partners survived the fight and we went on to be easily stomped by Radahn.
Beast claws also have a feint attack, along with perfume bottles
To possibly expand on the Rellana-Messmer relationship - Messmer's gauntlets seem to feature a ring, potentially a Moon Ring?
The flaming boats that are on fire in the shadow tower can also be found scattered around the sunken chapel. Could some people have survived the flood on them, but were then impaled and set on fire by Messmer and his goons?
I been using the Great Katana faint all thru the DLC, I picked that up EARLY 😆