I think she also had a lot of evidence against him or knew a lot of damning information about him that he didn't want coming out if they went through an actual divorce. He is shady and she knows all about it! He cares more about continuing to live his life full of crime. He cared nothing about her life.
It sounds like JP used the lawyer to coerce her, which would make sense why she brought $500 to pay for some fee to the attorney and she probably didn’t feel comfortable coming unarmed so she stopped by and bought a gun before the meet up. 100% JP did this. It’s beyond me how the cops or anyone can believe she did this to herself. Don’t believe it for a second!
@@Angela-zf8sn I think JP has her phone. The positive thing is, if he does have it. He can try to delete whatever he wants from the phone, but they should be able to find everything they need on her phone records. Texts, calls, pictures etc. even if it's been deleted. But I could be wrong, he may not have it. I heard that JP and her family are going to court in June to see who gets custody of her belongings.
Wow great thought. If she thought the lawyer would be helpful she may have gone to his place and they ended up taking the boat without her feeling scared. This makes some sense.
That could also explain why her phone was on airplane mode. The 911call asking if her location can be found may have been them making sure they could not be traced…she very well may have already been killed at that point
The body was dumped there. I believe his lawyer lured her to come to his house to “sign the divorce papers” and “pay” him $500. The fact that the church devil had her cremated within 48 hours without letting her family know first and having a full autopsy done is enough for me to believe he is involved
I needed 1600 out my account. I was out town. My bank opened it up for me. Still had to do 500 dollar transaction because the ATM limit was 500 per withdrawal.
Great point! And who knows about all the dealings the attorney was involved in by the way of the church. I’m sure the FBI is investigating all the “players” that are involved with JP and his church
I agree to a lie detector test. However, that can't be used against him in the courtroom, which I have never understood. If they're so accurate, then "criminals" in general who commit crimes should be found guilty, right? Not what they base cases off of, tho, but I agree a lie detector would be a start on JP behalf. I believe that they could possibly tamper with the test also, if his attorney, etc, is involved. They need evidence. Direct, strong evidence, or this man will get off of pretty much the passing of his spouse, which I believe he knows something or drove her to take her own life. She was just a piece of property to him from what it seems.
Please keep covering this case! I knew Mica for a very long time! She deserves better than what JP did to her. We went to SRM and left right before their affair came out.
@T.R.E.D. Yes. Mica went to SRM from the time she was around 14 years old. JP made her praise and worship leader when she first started going to the church. JP performed her marriage to her first husband. We left the church 1 week prior to the affair being made public.
I am so sorry for your loss 💔. I never knew Mica but have seen more than video where speaks about her life and specifically faith and I have gained so much respect for as a fellow believer. I do not believe she did this to herself.
@@loripensel8937 that’s crazy the pastor publicly had an affair and stole his friends wife and the church was just cool with it. The church I went to growing up 2 people in the church were doing things like that and they got shamed and booted out of leadership.
I think either that or she got cornered when she left that gas station. We know that he’s had trackers on her car three previous times. What he said to her best friend Charlotte oh I thought she was coming to see you, they hadn’t talked… he didn’t have her new phone number, so why would he make that statement if he wasn’t tracking her?
@@brendapeterson7039 Yes, JP had his boat at the the lawyer's property, which backs up to the park, with direct access by boat. She was probably lured to meet with the attorney, on her way to work, and stopped to get a gun, and naively went without telling anyone? Or maybe she was kidnapped after the pawn shop? But the attorney's 200 acre property with water access to that park is a perfect kill and dump launching point.
JP demanded that Mica meets her way out there so they could “talk”. If she wants a divorce come out there and I’ll sign your papers when ready if you meet me. JP says “let’s just talk” and he makes her or begs her. She complies, is afraid for her safety, and gets armed on her way.
This could be possible if he was under the PO at the time (I've read reports he was and some he wasn't). If so, he could be in trouble if caught meeting her with a PO in place. No doubt he was coercing her and communicating during this time, either way. This is a classic move in DV and Narcissism. The victim wants to believe they are safe, but in their gut they know they are not.
It's not about what he will gain but more so what he will lose if he is connected to anything illegal and unethical that JP/The Church are involved in. JP wouldn't need to convince or even pay the lawyer/church friend to help if his reputation was on the line. For all we know, he's the one that pressured JP into orchestrating all this because Mica might have already known or recently found out he had just as much dirt on him as JP. The lawyer left the church because his wife wanted to leave, not because we wanted to. That's very telling if you look into the history of the chuch and JPs influence
We may find out that the police may be involved in some way or being bribed or blackmailed by JP or the Lawyer. JP stated in one of his sermons that he had a great lawyer!!!
There have been A LOT of people leave the church. JP is very charismatic and serves STRONG "Kool Aid." There are some people that will support him no matter what he does.
Robeson PD needs to be investigated. And fisherman also needs to be investigated for ties to Solid Rock, JP and attorney. Something smells rotten in this case.
I'd love to hear the kayakers' entire statement to law enforcement. How well does he know the fisherman? There are WAY TOO Many holes in this case. I feel in my heart that the truth will come out. The Bible does say that YOUR SIN WILL FIND YOU OUT. Here it comes JP.
I think JP will say "It was self defense. She came here to delete me. We were signing papers and she pulled out a gun. There was a fight. The gun went off. I panicked and dumped her in the river. God forgive me!". That would be easier to believe than the "self-deletion" sham of a story.
Signing what papers? And why would she consent to Meeting him anywhere that wasn’t very public?? Especially when she had been listening to “necessary endings” that very morning???
@@suzannemartin6817a theory is she was tricked into going out there to meet his attorney, to save papers. She wouldn't have expected JP to be there. But could have bought a gun just to be safe because she probably felt pretty scared, all things considered.
@@suzannemartin6817 Fair Bluff has a street called Riverside Road. On one end is a boat ramp to access the Lumber River. At the other end is the Police Station. Maybe the lawyer asked her to meet at the PoPo station to sign divorce papers. You know, where she would be safe.
JP's dad came out with that video where she's describing being suicidal, but the gun jammed. But there's no context for that clip... she could've been telling someone else's story. She was explaining how God intervened to prevent a suicide, but we're not given the beginning of the tale where she may have said, "She wrote...." or "He said....", etc. Also, on the 911 call, she said she wanted her family to be able to find her body. But, why not do it in her apartment? Her car? Why go out into a remote/restricted location if the aim was to be found easily? This just makes no sense.
You hear someone in the background of the 911 call say, “Fair Bluff” right before she said, “Fair Bluff”… You don’t have to have the call enhanced to hear this!!! You don’t pass Fair Bluff on the road! It’s on the way by WATER!!!
I believe the authorities there were ./ are complicit. It seems like JP and his dad have too much control in that area. Who knows the extent of the criminal behavior going on there, beyond what is already known. And I also think that Mica knew too much, and the fact she was getting away was a serious threat to JP and whoever else is involved there. That 911 call was strange from the beginning. To not know where you are.? But, she drove there? and she took all this trouble to go to some strange location to off herself? and is now making a call so folks can find her......seriously ?!!!!!! And that's only one point in a whole mountain of other things making it clear this was NOT a self harm. I sure hope those who know about this will continue to put pressure on the FBI. ( Don't trust local authorities for obvious reasons)
From the interview with the fisherman from a different channel, he said an”off duty but on call” officer was there when he came back and the officer told him all about what the investigation was and details if the 911 call. If that is true then we can conclude that it wasn’t really an officer as o highly doubt an officer would do that or Ben know specifics from the call.
Well exactly.. it's as if the whole point of the call wasn't to inform the authorities of her location but to get out the fact she did it herself and not murder
JP Miller is not qualified (for many reasons) to be a Pastor. I understand that he is the "pastor" of that church, but we need to stop referring to him with the Pastoral title. He doesn't meet a single requirement that Scripture lays out for a Pastor.
@tufftopic the recording of Mica's 911 call on your episode titled ''Mica Miller Chose Lumber River Park For A Reason'' In it.. you can hear Mica pull her mouth away from the phone to ask someone nearby... 'Where's the pa rk located at?', .. Mica then says Into the phone 'Fair Bluff??'. That portion of the 911 recording has been edited out of from what i have been hearing on other channels that play the call. Is yours an unedited copy? You will also notice that Mica the operator asked for her number but instead Mica can be heard asking someone the location of the park. I believe She was trying to stall, while doing what she was told to do. The sequence of questions and answers do not match the other recording of her 911 call. Your recording holds clues the others do not. I hope you can colab w/ others on this.
She was so calm saying those words. Surely she didn’t think they would be needed. Or someone said maybe it was AI. Idk but that call is so strange. No voice cracking or anything. Wonder if AI can do the voice over but not change the expressions?
@@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj that is a good question since I know J.P.'s father is a criminal & a pedo,, I am going to ask JLR Investigates on youtube he is helping with the case.
It was on most in the beginning. I know JLR Investigates had it. You would have to go back to first few days of the case. This channel may even have it in earlier reports. It was reported on News Nation too.
Just great they did have some cameras! This case just breaks my heart. There are evil people in the churches too but this case really breaks my heart. This man is no preacher but GOD will get him and there is no way I would ever want to be in this man's position. How Evil! Justice for Mica!!!
Does a body float right away???? I thought it went down to bottom til gases fill the body then it will float, in time. Wasn't she found shortly after her 911 call? I'm so confused, how could she have enuff time to float? Something just feels off about this whole case.
Remember....the fisherman would probably know the lay of that land. Hes from the area and seems like he has been on that river many, many times. So it wouldnt surprise me that he would know things like land owners and such.....possibly. idk. But this case is not right all the way around, no doubt!!
Since daily this case gets crazier and crazier …. Does the park not have any cameras not even at the parking location? That would solve a lot as to if Mica indeed drove her car there , anyone else driving her car, what the witnesses did that day , what they drove ect. After the grocery store , no cameras at all picked up Mica on any highways or light poles?
I heard that Lumberton and Myrtle Beach had connections in the past dealing with human trafficking. That river being on the edge his land is very convenient, to say the least. I wouldnt be surprised if there was an airport close by or a make-shift landing stretch on that land.
So dumb! He did not kill her!!!! He was in another state when she killed herself, she talked about killing herself many times and even recorded it over a phone call to a hotline; So unless there was a hit-man, case closed, get over it!
Maybe she was going to pay cash for the gun and either she forgot under the pressure of people striking her or maybe she thought to save it in case she needed to hide and not leave a paper trail.
I thought it was odd that the fisherman said in the beginning that he picked up her belongings. Why would you touch anything if you knew something was going on? You wouldn’t want to touch the evidence of anything, not that the police cared about evidence, but still. That raised a red flag to me In the very beginning.
Is that JP in the video with his hands oh his head? Gives me chills, Chris Watts did the same thing when watching home security video at his neighbors house. Curious as to what those non verbals mean? Would love a professionals take on that.
i believe she withdrew 500 because someone lured her out there to have her murdered. They know how she was willing to help anyone who asked her. They used her kindness to kill her. They forced her hands( a strong man , thats why bruises on her hand.) To pull the trigger. But he released her when the gun went off, partly because blood splash on him and she ran into the water as fast as she could to excape, but died where she fell. Thats what i see happened.
JP left a kayak somewhere near or in the water ready to use near where Mica was to be parked later. He paid someone to hide in Mica’s backseat at her apartment and knew her work schedule. She got in the car. Was grabbed forcibly and warned if she did not do everything she was told they would kill her Godmother being tracked elsewhere. So Mica took every step she was asked to- go buy gun, go get gas in case she didn’t have enough to get to the state park- then she was told to park at the state park and get into the kayak waiting there. She was then forced to shoot herself once they were out of view of anyone. Seems this fisherman only heard one shot when there were multiple shell casings and a bullet in the tree near her body. IF they had asked the family who passed in the boat I would bet they heard several gunshots and crying.
Q: did she buy the gun with cash? Did she buy the gas and food with cash? That was probably part of the plan to ensure she couldn’t claim she had no funds for the gun or the gas. Is there record from her checking account of withdrawing cash leading up to this? There was rumor she had to borrow funds for paying the lawyer and her rent…
I just re-listened to this, and it wasn’t that kayak or who found her body that left and came back in a different car, it was the fisherman he left with his truck and his boat or kayak whatever it was connected to his truck came back in a white challenger, told authorities he went to go get a lighter. It wasn’t the kayaker who found her body.
I am so upset that this fake pastor and this fake lawyer are going to get away with murder, shame on the police department for not doing a thorough investigation and for allowing him to cremate her so fast.. I just watched a case where a husband said his wife fell down the stairs and died but they did another autopsy and over a year later the 2nd autopsy showed that she was strangled and he was arrested, but in this case her body was cremated in just a manner of days smh
I thought I read something in your thumbnail about somebody overhearing her arguing with somebody before the gunshot. Is this true? If so, please elaborate.
In Mica's 911 call, there is another voice in the back ground....and another channel picked up on other voices in the 911 call too. Crazy!! But the one thing that stays with me is one of the first interviews with the fisherman.....he mentions towards the end of the interview. " i hope they look into this because something didnt seem right". That might not be the exact quote, however that caught my attention and im thinking nobody is talking about that. What did he mean?? Now we are hearing more specifics from the fisherman. Hmmmm? I dont understand why the fisherman collected her belongings, and not just left it there how her belongs were and then called police. But his final comment he made in that interview had me intrigued. I feel like nobody questioned that statement, its been bothering me, its odd. Now it looks like the fisherman is speaking more. Lets keep seeing what comes out.
When did he tell the reporter that her attorney lived on that river? I didn’t hear that in any of the interviews I heard of his. Can you remember the source this info came from? (Anyone) I wanna know why the three people in the boat haven’t came forward as well as the guy who found her there’s no interview or anything on that person or is there does anybody know?
Brittany I just watched a footage of jp saying their was this guy named dj ( he said jp waz I'm a tree watching him whst was jp doing in a tree 🌳 second the gun case guy in thr to seat but thr shefriffs account said the gun was found I'm the water . However left with a black case not grey. The case was found in the seat of the car but the gun in the water. Could there have been a second gun? ..
Because there's different growth on the river, she could have been shot beforehand and could have put her body there and fired around but the temperature of her liver and if she had water in her lungs exactly where the water was???? Those things have to be listed when they're doing it forensic examination
ELE um narcisista , psicopata. ELES , agem exatamente assim. Triste destino dessa mulher tão jovem e linda. Com tanto tempo para viver , sendo abruptamente interrompido. Mika,dorme em PAZ 🕊️🕊️🕊️
I believe the call to 911 was made from fair bluff which at the ending of the call you hear grab her arm. This would mean she was abducted here in fair bluff or murdered and carried by boat and dropped. Just my opinion.
Wrongful death suit, maybe. Criminal charges, not a chance. With her on video purchasing the gun that was used, no reasonable and rational juror would be able to convict him.
In my opinion…Mica was going to leave town. She knew the police weren’t going to stop JP from stalking her. She was ready to disengage from the annoying drama.
Where are the videos of what he was up to the day of her death or leading up to her death? We have have all this surveillance of her ..ya know? Jp in the days after her death has been on a campaign to really try and convince eveyone Mica was crazy.. If he wasn't with her he would show the videos and pics of where he was. . Or someone would be coming forward and saying hey I saw him during the time of Micas death .. where are these people?
Can we please not refer to that individual as a pastor and who IMO is a snake in the grass or wolf in sheep's clothing Jesus spoke about and again who IMO is an abomination to any man or woman who is actually preaching God's Word. You could tell from the video footage in the gas station that Mica was glancing around and then there is that truck that circled numerous times. Why would Mica end up at that National Park that she had no connection to, but that she just happened to be found dead in where coincidentally the attorney's property just happens to back up to it? Yep, IMO it was a hit and the reason her arm was scratched and hand bruised is because she struggled with someone who eventually got their hand around hers on the handgrip and forced her finger on the trigger. What did the gun do walk 130 feet or however far it was away from her after she fired it? Look at the time lapses too between the Chief of Detectives showing up and the regular detectives showing up. Not to mention the EMS personnel who were on scene yet look at how long it took them to arrive where Mica's body was. And then that "particular" ME was called in. Yeah this stinks to high Heaven of murder and cover-up IMO. The question in my mind is what or who got her to walk 20 minutes through dense vegetation to go back to a snake and what looked like a possibly gator invested area?
So dumb! He did not kill her!!!! He was in another state when she killed herself, she talked about killing herself many times and even recorded it over a phone call to a hotline; So unless there was a hit-man, case closed, get over it!
Why did he get out of his boat and take her things after he head crying and a gunshot WTH ?? I would never in a million years pick up anyone's belongings for any reason. How did he not think the owner is nearby. People leave their things all over the beach and no one picks it up. Maybe just a thief !!!!
True and it is also contaminating evidence. Common sense says to leave it slone, especially after hearing the shot. He possibly saw the $500 and had other intentions. Its also possible he didn't have a cell phone but he should have gone straight to someone to contact 911 immediately and say he had her belongings.
I wonder if he is trying to be helpful and at the same time cover for his stupid actions.,you know, some people do dumb stuff and are totally innocent.
Mica’s pics show a very pleasant, charming young lady. The entire Country is furious and want justice for her.
He is definitely not a pastor. A Cult leader maybe.
He’s a bastard, not a pastor.
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He was obsessed with her, felt like he owned her and controlled everything about her, and there was no way he was gonna let her divorce him
HE IS OBSESSED WITH 3 THINGS - HIMSELF, MONEY AND SEGGS
I think she also had a lot of evidence against him or knew a lot of damning information about him that he didn't want coming out if they went through an actual divorce. He is shady and she knows all about it! He cares more about continuing to live his life full of crime. He cared nothing about her life.
In my opinion, Mica had evidence on JP, Tom Winslow, the attorney, and maybe others and they had to get rid of her.
Divorce would have meant half of all marital assets and auditing of Junior's financial dealings.
He's a typical narcissistic psychopath
It sounds like JP used the lawyer to coerce her, which would make sense why she brought $500 to pay for some fee to the attorney and she probably didn’t feel comfortable coming unarmed so she stopped by and bought a gun before the meet up. 100% JP did this. It’s beyond me how the cops or anyone can believe she did this to herself. Don’t believe it for a second!
Omgsh!
Yes had the same thought. Micas phone could hold lots of answers. Who has it?
@@Angela-zf8sn I think JP has her phone. The positive thing is, if he does have it. He can try to delete whatever he wants from the phone, but they should be able to find everything they need on her phone records. Texts, calls, pictures etc. even if it's been deleted. But I could be wrong, he may not have it. I heard that JP and her family are going to court in June to see who gets custody of her belongings.
Wow great thought. If she thought the lawyer would be helpful she may have gone to his place and they ended up taking the boat without her feeling scared. This makes some sense.
That could also explain why her phone was on airplane mode. The 911call asking if her location can be found may have been them making sure they could not be traced…she very well may have already been killed at that point
The body was dumped there. I believe his lawyer lured her to come to his house to “sign the divorce papers” and “pay” him $500. The fact that the church devil had her cremated within 48 hours without letting her family know first and having a full autopsy done is enough for me to believe he is involved
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$500 is the max allowed to withdraw from all ATMs. JP had everything to do with her death.
That is not true. Banks set those limits and you request higher limits.
For what I have experienced, if you want more money than the maximum limit, you need to go in person to the bank, then you can withdraw all you want.
I needed 1600 out my account. I was out town. My bank opened it up for me. Still had to do 500 dollar transaction because the ATM limit was 500 per withdrawal.
not true my daily max is $1000
Wrong ! Your bank may have a daily limit set on you. I would close my bank account if all I could access was $500 from an ATM
A divorce means his whole finances would be exposed, and his dad and him have a lot to lose. Attorney would have a lot to gain, in terms of a pay off.
Great point! And who knows about all the dealings the attorney was involved in by the way of the church. I’m sure the FBI is investigating all the “players” that are involved with JP and his church
Where is JP mother?
Worse, his dark side of perversion would be exposed. Not just divorce. He’s a sick pyscho deviant
@@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj - I’ve wondered about JP’s mother!! Maybe his dad did the same thing to her. Why is there no mention of his mother - ever?
@@lrow5416 Exactly.
Have JP take a lie detector to prove he had no part!!! 🇨🇦
JP needs to take a lie detector test, for sure..
He would probably pass it because he has no conscience.
And have his Attorney take a Polygraph test.
Oh , they will never do anything to him or the attorney. Seems like the real evil ones seem to always escape justice.
I agree to a lie detector test. However, that can't be used against him in the courtroom, which I have never understood. If they're so accurate, then "criminals" in general who commit crimes should be found guilty, right? Not what they base cases off of, tho, but I agree a lie detector would be a start on JP behalf. I believe that they could possibly tamper with the test also, if his attorney, etc, is involved. They need evidence. Direct, strong evidence, or this man will get off of pretty much the passing of his spouse, which I believe he knows something or drove her to take her own life. She was just a piece of property to him from what it seems.
Something is fishy bout this case it just don't add up.
$500 says it all. She definitely didn't plan on dying.
Please keep covering this case! I knew Mica for a very long time! She deserves better than what JP did to her. We went to SRM and left right before their affair came out.
What affair? The one that led Mica and JP to get together?
@T.R.E.D. Yes. Mica went to SRM from the time she was around 14 years old. JP made her praise and worship leader when she first started going to the church. JP performed her marriage to her first husband. We left the church 1 week prior to the affair being made public.
I am so sorry for your loss 💔. I never knew Mica but have seen more than video where speaks about her life and specifically faith and I have gained so much respect for as a fellow believer.
I do not believe she did this to herself.
@@loripensel8937 that’s crazy the pastor publicly had an affair and stole his friends wife and the church was just cool with it. The church I went to growing up 2 people in the church were doing things like that and they got shamed and booted out of leadership.
@@Twizington they’re their own cult and separate from Christianity. They will be judged accordingly too. Thankfully God knows the heart.
Someone tricked her into meeting them with time restraints that day
I think either that or she got cornered when she left that gas station. We know that he’s had trackers on her car three previous times. What he said to her best friend Charlotte oh I thought she was coming to see you, they hadn’t talked… he didn’t have her new phone number, so why would he make that statement if he wasn’t tracking her?
Maybe she went to the lawyers house and JP shows up? Good thought.
@@UnderTheMysticMoon 100%. He would only say that as a narcissistic confession. He had to confess and rub in what he had orchestrated.
That's what I am thinking too.. Have her phone records been released?
@@brendapeterson7039 Yes, JP had his boat at the the lawyer's property, which backs up to the park, with direct access by boat. She was probably lured to meet with the attorney, on her way to work, and stopped to get a gun, and naively went without telling anyone? Or maybe she was kidnapped after the pawn shop? But the attorney's 200 acre property with water access to that park is a perfect kill and dump launching point.
Thats not a pastor, the devil is a liar. False prophets will always arise. This is living proof.
Justice for Mica❤
JP demanded that Mica meets her way out there so they could “talk”. If she wants a divorce come out there and I’ll sign your papers when ready if you meet me. JP says “let’s just talk” and he makes her or begs her. She complies, is afraid for her safety, and gets armed on her way.
This could be possible if he was under the PO at the time (I've read reports he was and some he wasn't). If so, he could be in trouble if caught meeting her with a PO in place. No doubt he was coercing her and communicating during this time, either way. This is a classic move in DV and Narcissism. The victim wants to believe they are safe, but in their gut they know they are not.
I think that is the most likely scenario .
They know exactly where he was when she did what she did.
@@lifesajoke6965 I'd like to see camera footage of him at that ballgame
I pray she told someone and they have taken it the proper authorities! 🙏💜🙏i have prayed for this all along. Or the cell phones tell it all!!
The lawyer is guilty, that’s my opinion.
But what would the lawyer have to gain? Genuinely asking.
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Lots of money
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Time will tell!
I agree
It's not about what he will gain but more so what he will lose if he is connected to anything illegal and unethical that JP/The Church are involved in. JP wouldn't need to convince or even pay the lawyer/church friend to help if his reputation was on the line. For all we know, he's the one that pressured JP into orchestrating all this because Mica might have already known or recently found out he had just as much dirt on him as JP.
The lawyer left the church because his wife wanted to leave, not because we wanted to. That's very telling if you look into the history of the chuch and JPs influence
OMG. That just gave me chills. I forgot Mica mentioned "Fair Bluff" in the 911 call.
We may find out that the police may be involved in some way or being bribed or blackmailed by JP or the Lawyer. JP stated in one of his sermons that he had a great lawyer!!!
Why is his congregation still supporting him?
They need to boycott that church!!!!!!!
There have been A LOT of people leave the church. JP is very charismatic and serves STRONG "Kool Aid." There are some people that will support him no matter what he does.
All This is Very Fishy!!!! Justice for Mica and RIP ...❤
Robeson PD needs to be investigated. And fisherman also needs to be investigated for ties to Solid Rock, JP and attorney. Something smells rotten in this case.
I'd love to hear the kayakers' entire statement to law enforcement. How well does he know the fisherman? There are WAY TOO Many holes in this case. I feel in my heart that the truth will come out. The Bible does say that YOUR SIN WILL FIND YOU OUT. Here it comes JP.
Mica bought the gun to protect herself when she went to meet JP that day,because he convinced her to meet him.
I totally agree! There are so many unanswered questions! I hope her family gets the justice Mica deserves! RIP beautiful Mica! Xoxo
Listen to the 911 call! Someone says Fair Bluff right before she says Fair Bluff! It’s not on the road! It’s by River, ONLY!!!
I think JP will say "It was self defense. She came here to delete me. We were signing papers and she pulled out a gun. There was a fight. The gun went off. I panicked and dumped her in the river. God forgive me!". That would be easier to believe than the "self-deletion" sham of a story.
Signing what papers? And why would she consent to
Meeting him anywhere that wasn’t very public?? Especially when she had been listening to “necessary endings” that very morning???
@@suzannemartin6817a theory is she was tricked into going out there to meet his attorney, to save papers. She wouldn't have expected JP to be there. But could have bought a gun just to be safe because she probably felt pretty scared, all things considered.
Thjs sounds silly
@@suzannemartin6817 Fair Bluff has a street called Riverside Road. On one end is a boat ramp to access the Lumber River. At the other end is the Police Station. Maybe the lawyer asked her to meet at the PoPo station to sign divorce papers. You know, where she would be safe.
Don’t give that idiot any ideas- geez.
Why hasn't anyone ID who the fisherman said he saw in a boat as he was coming back out of the area?
Why hasn't anyone got a positive id on the fisherman, himself? "Johnnie Jacobs?" IDTS.
@@isaacseo5280exactly! Lol
JP's dad came out with that video where she's describing being suicidal, but the gun jammed. But there's no context for that clip... she could've been telling someone else's story. She was explaining how God intervened to prevent a suicide, but we're not given the beginning of the tale where she may have said, "She wrote...." or "He said....", etc.
Also, on the 911 call, she said she wanted her family to be able to find her body. But, why not do it in her apartment? Her car? Why go out into a remote/restricted location if the aim was to be found easily?
This just makes no sense.
She has no emotion in her voice either. That is too strange. Nobody I’ve heard interviewed has any emotion. That is strange too.
There’s a lot of things that don’t make sense with this guy’s story!! I don’t believe him!
You hear someone in the background of the 911 call say, “Fair Bluff” right before she said, “Fair Bluff”… You don’t have to have the call enhanced to hear this!!! You don’t pass Fair Bluff on the road! It’s on the way by WATER!!!
Wheres Micas phone, laptop, phone watch? Should answer lots of questions! Justice for Mica🕊
I believe the authorities there were ./ are complicit. It seems like JP and his dad have too much control in that area.
Who knows the extent of the criminal behavior going on there, beyond what is already known. And I also think that
Mica knew too much, and the fact she was getting away was a serious threat to JP and whoever else is involved there.
That 911 call was strange from the beginning. To not know where you are.? But, she drove there? and she took all this trouble to go to some strange location to off herself? and is now making a call so folks can find her......seriously ?!!!!!!
And that's only one point in a whole mountain of other things making it clear this was NOT a self harm. I sure hope those who know about this will continue to put pressure on the FBI. ( Don't trust local authorities for obvious reasons)
From the interview with the fisherman from a different channel, he said an”off duty but on call” officer was there when he came back and the officer told him all about what the investigation was and details if the 911 call. If that is true then we can conclude that it wasn’t really an officer as o highly doubt an officer would do that or Ben know specifics from the call.
Well exactly.. it's as if the whole point of the call wasn't to inform the authorities of her location but to get out the fact she did it herself and not murder
JP Miller is not qualified (for many reasons) to be a Pastor. I understand that he is the "pastor" of that church, but we need to stop referring to him with the Pastoral title. He doesn't meet a single requirement that Scripture lays out for a Pastor.
Omgsh.... maybe he convinced her to go to the lawyers home to sign divorce papers
This is obvious!!! Justice must come!!!
@tufftopic
the recording of Mica's 911 call on your episode titled ''Mica Miller Chose Lumber River Park For A Reason'' In it.. you can hear Mica pull her mouth away from the phone to ask someone nearby... 'Where's the pa rk located at?', .. Mica then says Into the phone 'Fair Bluff??'. That portion of the 911 recording has been edited out of from what i have been hearing on other channels that play the call. Is yours an unedited copy? You will also notice that Mica the operator asked for her number but instead Mica can be heard asking someone the location of the park. I believe She was trying to stall, while doing what she was told to do. The sequence of questions and answers do not match the other recording of her 911 call. Your recording holds clues the others do not. I hope you can colab w/ others on this.
She was so calm saying those words. Surely she didn’t think they would be needed. Or someone said maybe it was AI. Idk but that call is so strange. No voice cracking or anything. Wonder if AI can do the voice over but not change the expressions?
Comment to boost. Justice for Mica!!!
Everyone should be persons of interest
What did I have to do with it?!
@@Twizingtonlol!
@@TwizingtonEverything?
Why did she have $500 in her wallet and used her credit card. Or whatever was her card to buy the gun?
Shr had to make a car payment I think.
Sometimes better extended warranty programs thru Capital One etc. Just a guess. But she may have been holding the cash for her car payment.
My thoughts as well!
@@HappyChick2222 Me too
They will bring John Paul Miller in for the death of his Ex Wife Mica Miller
in July 2024
I hope you're right! He's implicit in this in some way!! There are far too many things that simply do not add up.
What makes you say July? Just curious
I pray they do. This man needs to be stopped. Where is JP's mother?
@@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj that is a good question since I know J.P.'s father is a criminal & a pedo,, I am going to ask JLR Investigates on youtube he is helping with the case.
She is Not a EX WIFE
Relisten fisherman in recent interview said passed 3 people in boat, 2 Men And younger appearing female.
Do you know which channel has that interview?
It was on most in the beginning. I know JLR Investigates had it. You would have to go back to first few days of the case. This channel may even have it in earlier reports. It was reported on News Nation too.
@@jenniferrevilla5298 thank you!
@@AMERICA_1stt Crime and Theories just posted a video of the entire interview today.
The FBI is looking into it.
That no longer does anything to inspire confidence.
That fisherman is part of the equation...
Oh boy, I was not expecting that. 🤯
Hard to believe an old run down gas station has about 10 cameras and a State Park has none.
Just great they did have some cameras! This case just breaks my heart. There are evil people in the churches too but this case really breaks my heart. This man is no preacher but GOD will get him and there is no way I would ever want to be in this man's position. How Evil! Justice for Mica!!!
Does a body float right away???? I thought it went down to bottom til gases fill the body then it will float, in time. Wasn't she found shortly after her 911 call? I'm so confused, how could she have enuff time to float? Something just feels off about this whole case.
If rhere were others there. Why havent we heard from them .they would have sooken out at this point ...
Remember....the fisherman would probably know the lay of that land. Hes from the area and seems like he has been on that river many, many times. So it wouldnt surprise me that he would know things like land owners and such.....possibly. idk. But this case is not right all the way around, no doubt!!
Over $500 for gun.. then $500 cash.. Okay..
Since daily this case gets crazier and crazier …. Does the park not have any cameras not even at the parking location? That would solve a lot as to if Mica indeed drove her car there , anyone else driving her car, what the witnesses did that day , what they drove ect. After the grocery store , no cameras at all picked up Mica on any highways or light poles?
I heard that Lumberton and Myrtle Beach had connections in the past dealing with human trafficking. That river being on the edge his land is very convenient, to say the least. I wouldnt be surprised if there was an airport close by or a make-shift landing stretch on that land.
Justice for Mica! Where is he now?!?!?
Justice for Mica 🙏🙏🙏🙏
So dumb! He did not kill her!!!! He was in another state when she killed herself, she talked about killing herself many times and even recorded it over a phone call to a hotline; So unless there was a hit-man, case closed, get over it!
Maybe she was going to pay cash for the gun and either she forgot under the pressure of people striking her or maybe she thought to save it in case she needed to hide and not leave a paper trail.
You can hear a voice in the 911 call when Mica was asked where she was..you can hear someone say..FairBale.
Apparently they enhanced that audio and it sounds like they're saying Mica Folder or my Folder or something..
I thought it was odd that the fisherman said in the beginning that he picked up her belongings. Why would you touch anything if you knew something was going on? You wouldn’t want to touch the evidence of anything, not that the police cared about evidence, but still. That raised a red flag to me In the very beginning.
Is that JP in the video with his hands oh his head? Gives me chills, Chris Watts did the same thing when watching home security video at his neighbors house. Curious as to what those non verbals mean? Would love a professionals take on that.
i believe she withdrew 500 because someone lured her out there to have her murdered. They know how she was willing to help anyone who asked her. They used her kindness to kill her. They forced her hands( a strong man , thats why bruises on her hand.) To pull the trigger. But he released her when the gun went off, partly because blood splash on him and she ran into the water as fast as she could to excape, but died where she fell. Thats what i see happened.
JP left a kayak somewhere near or in the water ready to use near where Mica was to be parked later. He paid someone to hide in Mica’s backseat at her apartment and knew her work schedule. She got in the car. Was grabbed forcibly and warned if she did not do everything she was told they would kill her Godmother being tracked elsewhere. So Mica took every step she was asked to- go buy gun, go get gas in case she didn’t have enough to get to the state park- then she was told to park at the state park and get into the kayak waiting there. She was then forced to shoot herself once they were out of view of anyone. Seems this fisherman only heard one shot when there were multiple shell casings and a bullet in the tree near her body. IF they had asked the family who passed in the boat I would bet they heard several gunshots and crying.
Q: did she buy the gun with cash? Did she buy the gas and food with cash? That was probably part of the plan to ensure she couldn’t claim she had no funds for the gun or the gas. Is there record from her checking account of withdrawing cash leading up to this? There was rumor she had to borrow funds for paying the lawyer and her rent…
I just re-listened to this, and it wasn’t that kayak or who found her body that left and came back in a different car, it was the fisherman he left with his truck and his boat or kayak whatever it was connected to his truck came back in a white challenger, told authorities he went to go get a lighter. It wasn’t the kayaker who found her body.
More than one shell casing was found. Everybody saying they only heard one gunshot
He did give her Lithium and did post the pics....
Fair Bluff the location of JP’s lawyer’s land.
JP is absolutely responsible for this in every single way.
I am so upset that this fake pastor and this fake lawyer are going to get away with murder, shame on the police department for not doing a thorough investigation and for allowing him to cremate her so fast.. I just watched a case where a husband said his wife fell down the stairs and died but they did another autopsy and over a year later the 2nd autopsy showed that she was strangled and he was arrested, but in this case her body was cremated in just a manner of days smh
What happened to the gun she bought that day?🤷
What? Now fisherman says there was arguing? I thought he just heard cries then a shot?
I thought I read something in your thumbnail about somebody overhearing her arguing with somebody before the gunshot. Is this true? If so, please elaborate.
Finally! I knew he was afraid to speak. More will be revealed
Man, young lady, child? Didn't JP was threaten Charlotte on phone about coming to get Mica and having a talk with a child present with him?
In Mica's 911 call, there is another voice in the back ground....and another channel picked up on other voices in the 911 call too. Crazy!! But the one thing that stays with me is one of the first interviews with the fisherman.....he mentions towards the end of the interview. " i hope they look into this because something didnt seem right". That might not be the exact quote, however that caught my attention and im thinking nobody is talking about that. What did he mean?? Now we are hearing more specifics from the fisherman. Hmmmm? I dont understand why the fisherman collected her belongings, and not just left it there how her belongs were and then called police. But his final comment he made in that interview had me intrigued. I feel like nobody questioned that statement, its been bothering me, its odd. Now it looks like the fisherman is speaking more. Lets keep seeing what comes out.
When did he tell the reporter that her attorney lived on that river? I didn’t hear that in any of the interviews I heard of his. Can you remember the source this info came from? (Anyone) I wanna know why the three people in the boat haven’t came forward as well as the guy who found her there’s no interview or anything on that person or is there does anybody know?
This was from a recent re-interview on News Nation, but theirs was edited and this is the entire interview.
Please listen to video of fair bluff. That’s where micas call came from. Opinion is she maybe was in a boat 🚤?
Brittany I just watched a footage of jp saying their was this guy named dj ( he said jp waz I'm a tree watching him whst was jp doing in a tree 🌳 second the gun case guy in thr to seat but thr shefriffs account said the gun was found I'm the water . However left with a black case not grey. The case was found in the seat of the car but the gun in the water. Could there have been a second gun? ..
First of all, she did not take her life. First clue of that, Paul had her cremated afterwards without an autopsy.
Where did Mica bag go I’m confused
Fishermen man foundbit, picked it up and handed over to police when he saw them. I believe he shower then the location where it was found.
Could be he handed to one of jp police he has them at the church hope he go it to the right police
@@jenniferrevilla5298he said in one interview that it was more of a fanny pack... Not a purse...
Were the drink can and sandwich papers found?
Because there's different growth on the river, she could have been shot beforehand and could have put her body there and fired around but the temperature of her liver and if she had water in her lungs exactly where the water was???? Those things have to be listed when they're doing it forensic examination
ELE um narcisista , psicopata.
ELES , agem exatamente assim.
Triste destino dessa mulher tão jovem e linda.
Com tanto tempo para viver , sendo abruptamente interrompido.
Mika,dorme em PAZ 🕊️🕊️🕊️
I believe the call to 911 was made from fair bluff which at the ending of the call you hear grab her arm. This would mean she was abducted here in fair bluff or murdered and carried by boat and dropped. Just my opinion.
Where was his sister and father during this murder
I'm suspecting this fisherman.
Yes Winslow knew both of them and not sure if he went to the church.. And was JP's attorney.. till Mica Died then he got another one.... Hmmmm
Wrongful death suit, maybe. Criminal charges, not a chance. With her on video purchasing the gun that was used, no reasonable and rational juror would be able to convict him.
The fisherman is lying again, he just now said he heard people talking.
I think the fisherman's credibility may be undermined by two possible things: age and drug addiction.
Reminds me of Chris web sneaky
Who issued or where did he get the testosterone from? That must be followed up.
So the kayaker leaving and coming back in a diff car looks like he has something to do with it and is hiding evidence. Was she in his car?!
Mica was his runaway slave.
In my opinion…Mica was going to leave town. She knew the police weren’t going to stop JP from stalking her. She was ready to disengage from the annoying drama.
I would like to know if she used cash or credit to purchase the gun
Where are the videos of what he was up to the day of her death or leading up to her death? We have have all this surveillance of her ..ya know?
Jp in the days after her death has been on a campaign to really try and convince eveyone Mica was crazy.. If he wasn't with her he would show the videos and pics of where he was. . Or someone would be coming forward and saying hey I saw him during the time of Micas death .. where are these people?
So the attorney drove a dodge ram like that?
@The Mystery Project
Can we please not refer to that individual as a pastor and who IMO is a snake in the grass or wolf in sheep's clothing Jesus spoke about and again who IMO is an abomination to any man or woman who is actually preaching God's Word. You could tell from the video footage in the gas station that Mica was glancing around and then there is that truck that circled numerous times. Why would Mica end up at that National Park that she had no connection to, but that she just happened to be found dead in where coincidentally the attorney's property just happens to back up to it? Yep, IMO it was a hit and the reason her arm was scratched and hand bruised is because she struggled with someone who eventually got their hand around hers on the handgrip and forced her finger on the trigger. What did the gun do walk 130 feet or however far it was away from her after she fired it? Look at the time lapses too between the Chief of Detectives showing up and the regular detectives showing up. Not to mention the EMS personnel who were on scene yet look at how long it took them to arrive where Mica's body was. And then that "particular" ME was called in. Yeah this stinks to high Heaven of murder and cover-up IMO. The question in my mind is what or who got her to walk 20 minutes through dense vegetation to go back to a snake and what looked like a possibly gator invested area?
So dumb! He did not kill her!!!! He was in another state when she killed herself, she talked about killing herself many times and even recorded it over a phone call to a hotline; So unless there was a hit-man, case closed, get over it!
Why did he get out of his boat and take her things after he head crying and a gunshot WTH ?? I would never in a million years pick up anyone's belongings for any reason. How did he not think the owner is nearby. People leave their things all over the beach and no one picks it up. Maybe just a thief !!!!
If he was concerned why not call police and tell them, and let them put her bag up! Smell’s fishy
True and it is also contaminating evidence. Common sense says to leave it slone, especially after hearing the shot. He possibly saw the $500 and had other intentions. Its also possible he didn't have a cell phone but he should have gone straight to someone to contact 911 immediately and say he had her belongings.
I wonder if he is trying to be helpful and at the same time cover for his stupid actions.,you know, some people do dumb stuff and are totally innocent.
I think he put that $500 in her bag because it was dirty money.
@@jenniferrevilla5298
He had a phone. In another interview he talked about calling his friend Charles. But he didn't call 911.
Perhaps she was in waist deep water trying to get away from someone.
Testosterone shots in the butt, that caused her to lose her singing voice.
Nothing more Hypocritical that a religious Hypocrite .