Kansas fan here. I understand the desire to stay in the Big East, but if this happens, I hope UConn fans embrace it. The Big 12 is in a great place right now, thanks in no small part to Yormark's aggressive leadership. Also, the exit of OU/UT created a much more unified conference. The Big 12 has great fans, and I'm sure UConn would come to appreciate the passionate road venues. As far as distance goes, most people assume the Big 12 will continue expanding east, especially if ACC schools become available. This would likely create pod scheduling.
Kansas and UConn basketball programs are amazing. My Mountaineers just hired Darian DeVries from Drake University hopefully we can compete in a few years probably won't win but at least compete and join in on all the fun.
Having a lot of family in and around Columbia MO and going out there to visit a couple times a year, it really bums me out that Mizzou left for the SEC, a conference that is not a great fit imo and the Big12 a perfectly good conference for them to have stayed in
@greynoise1409 The Big East is nostalgic for UConn fans, but it's not the same fit anymore. UConn is the only large state school and the only school with FBS football. The regional conferences are being forced to change. Even the Atlantic Coast Conference has Pacific coast schools.
As a Mountaineer fan I'm hoping UConn joins the big 12., will be nice being in the same conference with UConn again. WVU just hired Darian DeVries for basketball hopefully we can get better, probably not UConn level 😊 but at least compete. Hopefully your football program can get a lot better, it will need to because the Big 12 is a tough place to play every week but I do remember when UConn was pretty good one year in the Big East and went to a bowl game. Hopefully we get to welcome UConn to the Big 12 soon. 🙏🙏
Love WVU when UConn was in the same conference as the Mountaineers. Still remember Pat White running wild against OU in the 2008 Fiesta Bowl. It was so awesome to shut up all the people that disrespected Big East football.
the only thing the move is doing is allowing them to not have to drop football. If they weren't determined to maintain a football program this wouldn't even remotely be an issue
@@MDK384BIG East teams make significantly less than BIG12 teams, BIG East media deal is roughly 42 million while the BIG12 is 2.3 billion, UCONN will get left behind in NIL if they stay in a small basketball only conference
@@MDK384as much as I hate it and think the BE basketball should be protected at all costs, but unfortunately, this is an absolute must move for UConn long term. Big12 is about to be the ultimate college basketball gauntlet. Holy moly is it going to be an insane league. I think Danny is licking his chops thinking about rivalries with Self, Drew, Samson.
@@anthonytitone i'm assuming you left off a 0 there, but i'm aware of the difference. that money would be fine if uconn wasn't also trying to support football. gotta remember that football makes up like 80-85% of the athletic budgets at these schools
@MDK384 Based on where things are going, I'm not sure this is true anymore. Courts ruled that schools can start using revenue to pay players. When that happens, schools getting 50-70+ million per year in power conference revenue sharing will have a clear advantage. I think UConn's 7 million per year from the Big East won't be enough, even without football.
As a Big 12 fan: UConn (a big state school in its own right) deserve to be in a conference with HUGE state schools with packed stadiums! Just wait until you walk into massively packed stadiums in Lubbock, Manhattan KS, Tucson. It will be rocking and the money will be FLOWING!!! I understand travel will be tough, but consider that college sports is moving rapidly toward the direction of professional sports, so national presence is what is demanded, but consider you will ALMOST ASSUREDLY long term reunite with old Big East teams in Louisville Pitt WVU Cincinnati (maybe more!). So the travel wont be that bad. But PLEASE, for the love of God, invest in football (on campus stadium, attendance, etc).
It wouldn't normally be that late. Most of the big 12 is central time, so only an hour difference. So 7pm or 9pm Eastern time on week nights. Only Utah, BYU, AZ, AZ st, Col are mountain time.
Moving to a power conference means more travel at this point (even in the ACC). If UConn needs power conference money, if they want to keep winning and not get left behind again.
I am pumped! lets goooooo - lets get football in sooner, will be huge help with recruitment and NIL money - well put on challenging coach dan - he thrives on that and youll give it to him
@marksicuso737 It looks like the idea of pushing off UConn joining in football is part of what gets the deal enough votes. In the Big 12, I think a full share of TV revenue is around 50 million per year. So even a partial share could be much more than 7 million per year from the Big East.
Also add: Villanova, Gonzaga, Georgetown, St John’s… for BB. Give Villanova & Georgetown contracts to play Big12 schools in football to build those programs up…
Is Uconn required to build a new football stadium or increase the seating capacity at Renschler? Maybe it was fake news, but i think i read at some point that the power conferences have various seating minimums for the football stadiums.
Renschler field has 42,000 capacity. They might need to expand but easily expandable to 50,000. I don’t think that’s a requirement, but I could be wrong. My guess is the requirement will be for football and school to invest a certain sum of money annually and use to recruit and upgrade. But the facilities for football at UConn are pretty top-of-the-line. Just do any UA-cam search. They just lack an on-campus stadium, which would pack out the place constantly since the students wouldn’t have to hop on a 30 minute school bus.
Probably not. History says that UCONN hoops success derives somewhat from BIGEAST membership. The BIG12 is overrated and seems to already be declining to an historical norm. Measured by the NCAAT over the past 10 years (9 seasons), the BIG12 is #2 or #3 in men's basketball. Adjusting for realignment: ACC - Appeared in 7 of 9 Final Fours (6 different teams) BE - Appeared in 5 of 9 Final Fours (2 different teams) B12 - Appeared in 4 of 9 Final Fours (4 different teams) Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A) ACC: 9-5-3 B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston) BIGEAST: 6-4-4 SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK) B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA)
@@antbizzy806 Actual NCAAT results proves that the BIG12 is overrated since it doesn't meet the expectations of the best. In contrast, the SEC easily proves it's the best in football by a similar measure.
Houston, Kansas, Baylor, Arizona, Iowa St. and possibly UConn?? That’s six top 10 teams right there. If Duke or Gonzaga or both follow? Wow! Think about it, Yormark is going to let his newcomers build their football programs and they will based on their geographical locations. Own basketball in every way, shape, and form and football will follow. No one will be able to touch the Big 12. Yes, fans currently want immediate impactful football programs, but just one or two solid seasons from a few Big 12 teams in football will elevate the conference to a new elite status. Sounds like Yormark and the Big 12 know what they’re doing.
Measured by the NCAAT over the past 10 years (9 seasons), the BIG12 is #2 or #3 in men's basketball. Adjusting for realignment: ACC - Appeared in 7 of 9 Final Fours (6 different teams) BE - Appeared in 5 of 9 Final Fours (2 different teams) B12 - Appeared in 4 of 9 Final Fours (4 different teams) Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A) ACC: 9-5-3 B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston) BIGEAST: 6-4-4 SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK) B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA)
Thank God! The sooner the better. The true Big East (where UConn belonged) died when it split years ago, the Huskies are a 1000 pound behemoth surrounded by small schools. They were left behind by the ACC the two times the raided the old Big East, now they will end up in an even better position then all those teams that jumped to the ACC.
Let's get UConn in the Big 12, everyone says let's wait on the ACC to break up but heck half of those teams aren't very good at football or basketball. That's why it's breaking up. UConn men's and women's basketball will make all the big 12 better.
UConn joining the Big 12 is a good move for both sides. The only downside is that it would be harder for my Red Raiders to win a Big 12 basketball championship. Hope this happens and welcome all UConn fans to the Big 12!
Yormark tried to get the conference presidents to bite on Gonzaga last year and got laughed out of the room. I have no doubt that he wants to build the ultimate basketball conference, but if it's anything like last year, the presidents will simply ask "how does this improve my revenue?" And if adding UCONN isn't net revenue positive, it isn't happening. And I'm not sure if they are. I'm not an expert in media contacts, maybe they have numbers that say they do add revenue. But I'd be skeptical. I'd like to see those numbers if they think they do.
@@MDK384 Jesus one comment that is pure speculation.. in a 37 min podcast. But ok. If his new reality is he has to get deeper.. it would make sense. Nobody is worried. Don’t even think I said the word worried but if I did it merely an adjective not meant to suggest he’s scared .. but oooook buddy
@@LockedOnUConn Get offended why don't ya. if he thinks he "has" to get deeper, that would suggest he's concerned or "worried" that his teams aren't currently deep enough. Regardless, just thought it was a funny comment considering how deep UConn's rotation has been the last few years. Also, historically, depth is not a major factor on cbb championship teams. Most title teams have a very tight 6-7 man rotation. UConn has actually been an aberration in that regard, but that's a whole other discussion.
@MDK384 If you don't think Uconn's depth will have to get deeper, you are kidding yourself. Yes, Uconn won march madness, but that is also only 6 games. They play a Big East schedule to get qualified for the tournament and be honest without yourself, the Big East pales in comparison to the difficulty and physical grind of a 20 game season in the best P4 basketball conference. Yes, Uconn will need depth if they want to win in the Big 12 and then win 6 more games to keep winning national titles. It's a no brainer mate. Playing in the Big East and then finishing the season on 6 hard games, is vastly easier than playing hard games all season long, then still having the depth and strength to cap it off with 6 more hard games.
@@Goeers206 UConn was extremely deep the last two seasons. That's why I found the comment peculiar. Their second unit could've probably been a top 25 team last year. And your comments about the Big East are laughable. They were the 2nd highest ranked conference last season by Kenpom. They put more teams in the sweet 16 last year than the Big 12. Don't insult a great league
@@MDK384 Wasn't insulting them just stating facts, the Big 12 is a deeper and more physical conference. I can guarantee 100% if you all come to the Big 12 it will wear your team down, it's a different game in that league. EDIT: Also like I said earlier, it's easier to win a few games in a tournament when you haven't been through a meat grinder in conference play, so the Big East having some sweet 16 is great, but if they played a Big 12 schedule they may not have even made it to the dance or so beat up at the end of the reg season and Big 12 tournament they might lose their first game. You are viewing everything from a Big East lense, Uconn won't be in the Big East
Yormark's grand plan is that he NEEDS UConn to start what he wants...or feels the way things will fall down the road. His plan is to add UConn, then add Gonzaga. He believes those adds could entice Duke/UNC to head to the Big12 when ACC falls apart, and then if he adds those 2, Clemson/FSU would follow....thus adding a TON of money to the TV package. Big gamble, but thats what he believes will happen, and he has reasons to think that way.
So I’m still not clear on the revenue part of this. Will UCONN garner a full share once football joins in 2031? I wouldn’t do this unless this is the case.
@jamesk7963 It sounds like that's the idea, then they would be part of the new TV contract after 2031. Until that point, I think even a partial revenue share would be substantially more than what they're getting in the Big East.
Might want to read back up about what the House settlement actually is. No law, an actual dude named Grant House suing the NCAA. Three class action lawsuits including House's rolled into one settlement, agreed to on conditions of change by the NCAA.
Good stuff !!! Hope Big12 presidents are smart enough to figure out this is in their best interests. I’m not so sure they are smart enough to figure that out, however. They have a track record of stupidity…
Idk if yall would be the big dogs of the big 12 lol. We would definitely love to have yall here in the conference though. Just adds to the absolute basketball powerhouse this conference already is. It might boost y’all’s football program as well.
@joejenkity1704 Big XII would be challenging, but no one was a bigger dog than UConn in the past two tournaments. I'm sure Dan Hurley would love the challenge.
@@The_triple_fool I’m definitely not disagreeing with you from last year but 3 different big 12 teams have been in the national championship in the past 5 years. The big 12 is a different beast. I hope yall do join though. That would be sick.
@joejenkity1704 It's hard to think that a program that's won the most basketball championships in the past 25, including a current streak of two in a row, wouldn't be a big dog in the conference. Obviously, even without UConn, it's probably the best basketball conference. It's crazy to think that if UConn was in the Big 12 for the upcoming season, the conference would have 3 of the projected top 5 and 7 of the top 10. There would be great matchups, including the Hurley brothers coaching head to head in a conference. I think it makes sense for the school and the conference.
@@The_triple_fool they’ll be A big dog lol not THE big dog. This big 12 conference schedule ain’t no joke. 3 different big 12 teams have been to the national championship in the past 5 years. If you really think UCONN would run through this conference you are out of your damn mind. The worst team in this conference could beat anybody.
Big 12 should take football, too, now. ,not 2031. They are trying to get Gonzaga with basketball. Big East should bring Gonzaga. Traveling is the problem.
I think UConn n needs a little time to prepare to join the Big 12 in football. I think they know that also because you could look at some devastating football games like 80 to nothing. Let's help them come in the right way and be prepared but basketball comes immediately.
Those are also perennial top 25 basketball matchups. It's a lot of travel, but being in a conference with big-time revenue sharing means more travel now. UConn will need the strength and money from a power conference to sustain and build, especially when they start paying players. Other Power conferences aren't much better. ACC might have Eastern schools, but even the ACC has Stanford, California, and SMU. ACC schools aren't happy with the money, and some Eastern might leave and join the Big 12. The Big 10 has a few Eastern schools, but they also have UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Washington. If they join a conference that helps bring in more money, then there will be more travel. If they stay in the Big East, they will struggle to keep up financially. If they leverage basketball success to join a power conference, they could bring in major football money in the near future. They don't want to be left behind in realignment again.
The Big East is only half of what it was. Clinging to nostalgia will get UConn left behind again. UConn's Big East revenue share is going to be around 7 million per year, compared to 50-70 million in power conferences. Money matters, especially when schools start using revenue to pay players. UConn would get left behind. Right now, they can leverage basketball success to get in a power conference to reestablish the football program. That makes sustainable championship success possible.
I mean this with all respect but how stupid do you have to be to think this is anything like the last time? First of all we didn't leave last time - we got kicked out. Second of all this isn't the AAC lol this is a power 4 conference - the third conference and best bball conference in the country.
Because being independent in football is unviable meaning they have to find an FBS conference, find an FCS conference or drop the football program. They will also get left behind in basketball as previously mediocre BIG10 & SEC teams make 10x as much money as them & will crush them in NIL. This is UCONN’s only future even if it sucks for the culture
If Big12 does not take on UConn, I bet Yormark starts looking for an exit because his bosses are too stupid for him, his talents wasted. UConn to Big12 is a no brainer. Same with OrSt & WaSt. 3 perfect fits.
I understand UConn basically has to make this move for financial reasons, but it'll be a shame to see them leave the Big East for basketball if it ends up happening
UCONN in a northern ACC would be far better. For football ok, but a lot of basketball games play at night, and that leaves most UCONN fans not watching cause a weekday night basketball game would be too late for most!! Maybe they would start week night games at 5 or 6 pm, so UCONN and the east coast could watch!
As a mountaineer fan that went the same path from the Big East to the Big 12 you do not want to join the ACC it's getting ready to break up and probably will not find a TV contract without FSU and Clemson. ACC will get picked apart by the Big Ten SEC and Big 12 could take four to eight teams themselves.
@@davidframe1613 Always moronic.... The BIG12 has already broken up. Near certain ACC will have at least a peer Tier 2 deal after some depletion. The BIG12 has already been picked apart.
Not from 2014-2020. If UConn doesn't leverage basketball to get in a power conference (B12, B10, SEC), they will get left behind again. A 7 million revenue share will not be enough when players start getting paid, especially when other schools get 50-70 million per year. If they move now, they might get football back to being successful, like it was in the Big East. Football money is big money. Big money is becoming more necessary for top-level winning.
As a Mountaineer fan we used to be in the Big East also and left for the Big 12, so it's very similar to what UConn is doing at the moment. I would suggest to be prepared because every game will be a challenge but it's well worth it. We would not go back to the Big East. A lot of great teams and people in the Big 12 also.
@davidframe As a lifelong Big 12 and Iowa State fan, we have loved having WVU in the Big 12. I hope with future dominoes we can finally get you guys some closer partners out your way with UConn, Pitt, etc. but either way WVU has been great for the Big 12.
UConn wont be able to compete in football the travel will hurt the basketball team not to even mention the other sports but IM sure it will mean nice salary increases for the administration so what the hell
This will kill the basketball program !!!!!! NOT the first year , not the second year , but soon after. We are in the northeast. We arent in kansas, texas, colorado etc.........how long before that exhausts the kids ?
@thomashlywa7577 The Big XII schools currently get 50 million per year in TV revenue compared to 7 million in the Big East. When schools start to use revenue to pay NIL, that gap in revenue will kill UConn if they stay in the BE. Plus, with all the realignment and many eastern schools unhappy in the ACC, the travel could look different in the future.
As Jim Calhoun one said, do some research and get back to me. Topic is called revenue sharing. Ask yourself 5 to 10 years from now where are the best players going to play option a school that had historic success that can pay 1/10 of what the power conferences and their schools can pay. It’s about the Benjamins my friend And it’s not a question if you’re paying a little less in LL than some other schools. This is revenue sharing. Do you want to share 7 million among all your basketball players or do you want to share 40-60 million
@@greynoise1409 Any new tournament would be an invitational, and a still strong enough BIGEAST would get invites, likely even an autobid for its champ.
NIL is going to destroy Big East Basketball. There will be 1 or 2 schools that might be able to compete but the Xavier’s and DePaul’s of the world are headed to the dumps forever. UConn can’t be in a conference of small fries
@l.wilson3484 When schools start being able to use 20% of their revenue to pay NIL, everything changes. 20% of 50 million is a lot more than 20% of 7 million.
It’s about being able to maintain the talent required to compete in basketball. Research revenue sharing and it’s impact when it takes affect next year. 5 to 10 years from now Connecticut will attract 3 to 4 star players and will not be anywhere near as elite as we are today. It’s impossible when the best players are going to, play at the schools that are paying 10 times what we pay. It’s reality.
CBS Sports reports that the Big 12 is “nowhere close to a vote,” and that if a vote was taken today, it would be 6-2 in favor. With 12 of 16 yes votes needed, this move is nowhere as close to “imminent” as these commentators suggest.
@martinmohney6693 might as well move basketball there too, since they won't have enough money to be competitive when schools start to be able to pay NIL out of their revenue.
God. Please research the impact revenue sharing will have when it begins next year. Once you understand that you realize there will be no elite Connecticut basketball in 5 to 10 years from now.
@ervinjd I'm not sure this is realistic. It seems unlikely that a town of 17k could hold a stadium with a capacity of 50-60k. The roads struggle to accommodate traffic from 10k people leaving a basketball game. Imagine 40k+ people trying to get out of Storrs after a football game.
Stillwater is a whole lot bigger, and a 30 to 40 thousand (Houston, Cincinnati) seat would be great. As for traffic, I'm clueless on Connecticut road construction & budget but having a home statium would be great for students, and fans. The statium in Hartford seems cold and unattractive. Just my thoughts from afar.
@@The_triple_fool The BIG12 will pay less, and its best members have already jumped ship. Nevertheless, the ACC clearly has little to no interest in UCONN.
@tarheel7406 The payout right now seems about the same. The Big 12 lost their two best football programs. They've stabilized and still have 5 football teams in the top 25 and have 7 of the projected top 10 in basketball. They're positioned to keep building and increasing revenue. The ACC is likely to lose 2 top football programs with no guarantee they don't lose other schools.When that happens, ACC interest in UConn might change quickly. The ACC should have taken UConn over BC in the first place. UConn would have added much more to the ACC than BC has. Anyhow, the Big 12 is positioned to move forward and increase revenue in the future, while the ACC has some big problems to fix before they can say that. It would be a little poetic justice if the ACC uses UConn to stabilize and remain a top basketball conference, setting up UConn to beat up on former Big East rivals (BC, Syracuse, VT, Miami).
@@The_triple_fool a) The ACC's deal is known to be way below actual market value. This story is now 3 years old. b) The BIG12 lost its top 6 members (net) and is now ~33% G5 equivalent. b) The BIG12 has yet to feel the full effects of losing TX/OK and the revenue gap. c) The ACC's lack of interest in UCONN goes beyond athletics. d) If anything, the relative value of the BIG12 is likely to decline. The ACC is already the top basketball conference. It needs it prior football focused expansions to start meeting expectations. The former BIGEAST schools are among the strongest opponents of adding UCONN.
You're kidding, right? The immediate DETRIMENT is to every sport EXCEPT football. The ONLY way that this makes sense is for FOOTBALL to join the Big XII. You haven't mentioned a single benefit to UConn to accept the deal that you've talked about. Gonzaga doesn't have football! The Big XII won't add a non-football school. What money? I tuned in to hear about the guarantees to UConn football? You failed to name a single one! Does anyone at UConn talk about football? Do you have any idea how far it is from Storrs to Phoenix? Your football team actually played there over 10 years ago in a FOOTBALL bowl game. OK, I know you only care about basketball, but will you follow your tennis team to Phoenix? How about your soccer team to Provo? You guys are clueless. You will get everything you deserve, and it won't be money.
That's why they won't put UConn football in at the same time as they do basketball because they will need a few years to prepare. Also you have to remember UConn will get more money so they will have more money to invest. UConn used to be okay at football they can do it again.
@MMAALL UConn might be better than Houston already. Even the promise of joining a power conference will help recruiting. UConn football was a Big East conference champ twice and was selling out home games. They can get back there.
@MMAALL Once they join Big XII football, even 1-11 would earn them 50+ million in tv revenue compared to 7 million in the Big East. NIL is going to get more important, UConn won't be competitive in any sport if they stay in the Big East.
All great points here and I understand why they have to make the move. I guess the best way to look at it is a terrible football program is a small price to pay to maintain basketball excellence. I used to be a football season ticket holder, even before their stadium was built, and it was fun to watch competitive D1 football. After Edsall’s first tenure there, however, they became virtually unwatchable, not just one of the worst teams in the nation, but among the worst teams of all time. Going to be tough to ask folks to pony up cash to watch them get blown out weekly.
Can UConn push the Big East schools that have mid level football programs to the point that the Big East Conference can negotiate a big enough TV contract to even the revenue sharing field. Grab Army, Navy, and Temple. Wouldn't be any different than a time table to the Big 12 in 2031 and might cost a lot less. Hate the idea of being pushed around by Kansas et al.
Don't think that's realistic. Those schools simply can't afford the expenses of playing D1 football. Would be nice, but they can't just ask their states for a 40 million dollar subsidy like UConn can
If the BIG12's media deal can tolerate adding UCONN basketball now, why not football? KANSAS/UCONN wouldn't replace UNC/DUKE. That's delusional. Anway, as an outsider, I see the BIG12 as the sole feasible chance for UCONN to be elevated (albeit to the Tier 2). Nevertheless, I would not downgrade basketball (at least a risk of same) for a delayed football membership, much less a delayed and contingent membership. At least demand certain football membership, delayed only with some scheduling commitments. UCONN should do what it thinks best (of course), but I see the BIG12 only on a basketball run with a far less certain future. There's also a risk of BIG12 schools starving other sports in a vain attempt to remain football competitive.
@tarheel7406 This year, it looks like UConn/ Kansas would be better than Duke/ UNC. Even a partial revenue share will be much bigger than in the Big East. UConn football is already improving. Even a future conference alignment will help recruit.
Tarheel dumbass is back again on anything Big 12 related. The ACC is going to lose Florida State and Clemson the minute they can get out, and that makes the ACC complete dog shit in football then. UNC is coveted by the Big Ten and the Tarheels are gone the minute they see nearly $100M in TV revenue alone by the time the next Big Ten deal comes up. Thus making Duke/UNC not a conference game, so yes Kansas/UConn would trump that as the best conference game.
Kansas fan here. I understand the desire to stay in the Big East, but if this happens, I hope UConn fans embrace it. The Big 12 is in a great place right now, thanks in no small part to Yormark's aggressive leadership. Also, the exit of OU/UT created a much more unified conference. The Big 12 has great fans, and I'm sure UConn would come to appreciate the passionate road venues. As far as distance goes, most people assume the Big 12 will continue expanding east, especially if ACC schools become available. This would likely create pod scheduling.
Kansas and UConn basketball programs are amazing. My Mountaineers just hired Darian DeVries from Drake University hopefully we can compete in a few years probably won't win but at least compete and join in on all the fun.
Having a lot of family in and around Columbia MO and going out there to visit a couple times a year, it really bums me out that Mizzou left for the SEC, a conference that is not a great fit imo and the Big12 a perfectly good conference for them to have stayed in
This would be a great conference basketball
I would expect UConn to fit in better in the Big 12 than as the one non-Catholic in the Big East. Although it will be strange.
@greynoise1409 The Big East is nostalgic for UConn fans, but it's not the same fit anymore. UConn is the only large state school and the only school with FBS football. The regional conferences are being forced to change. Even the Atlantic Coast Conference has Pacific coast schools.
Big12 is already 1. Then you add Arizona. Then UConn. Yeah. That is crazy good
As a Mountaineer fan I'm hoping UConn joins the big 12., will be nice being in the same conference with UConn again. WVU just hired Darian DeVries for basketball hopefully we can get better, probably not UConn level 😊 but at least compete. Hopefully your football program can get a lot better, it will need to because the Big 12 is a tough place to play every week but I do remember when UConn was pretty good one year in the Big East and went to a bowl game. Hopefully we get to welcome UConn to the Big 12 soon. 🙏🙏
Always loved the mountaineers and respected their fan base.
Love WVU when UConn was in the same conference as the Mountaineers.
Still remember Pat White running wild against OU in the 2008 Fiesta Bowl. It was so awesome to shut up all the people that disrespected Big East football.
Big12 with KU, UConn, Arizona, Baylor, Texas Tech, Houston, WVU, ISU in one conference. That crazy.
Us Mountaineers need UConn.
Watch out for BYU as well!
Don’t forget K-State, Cincinnati, Utah, Oklahoma State! All traditional powers!
@@davidframe1613 after the last few seasons I'm just happy to still be included on the list, lmao
Mixed feelings. UConn belongs in the Big East but this might be the only way they can stay competitive long term
the only thing the move is doing is allowing them to not have to drop football. If they weren't determined to maintain a football program this wouldn't even remotely be an issue
@@MDK384BIG East teams make significantly less than BIG12 teams, BIG East media deal is roughly 42 million while the BIG12 is 2.3 billion, UCONN will get left behind in NIL if they stay in a small basketball only conference
@@MDK384as much as I hate it and think the BE basketball should be protected at all costs, but unfortunately, this is an absolute must move for UConn long term.
Big12 is about to be the ultimate college basketball gauntlet. Holy moly is it going to be an insane league. I think Danny is licking his chops thinking about rivalries with Self, Drew, Samson.
@@anthonytitone i'm assuming you left off a 0 there, but i'm aware of the difference. that money would be fine if uconn wasn't also trying to support football. gotta remember that football makes up like 80-85% of the athletic budgets at these schools
@MDK384 Based on where things are going, I'm not sure this is true anymore. Courts ruled that schools can start using revenue to pay players. When that happens, schools getting 50-70+ million per year in power conference revenue sharing will have a clear advantage. I think UConn's 7 million per year from the Big East won't be enough, even without football.
As a Big 12 fan: UConn (a big state school in its own right) deserve to be in a conference with HUGE state schools with packed stadiums! Just wait until you walk into massively packed stadiums in Lubbock, Manhattan KS, Tucson. It will be rocking and the money will be FLOWING!!!
I understand travel will be tough, but consider that college sports is moving rapidly toward the direction of professional sports, so national presence is what is demanded, but consider you will ALMOST ASSUREDLY long term reunite with old Big East teams in Louisville Pitt WVU Cincinnati (maybe more!). So the travel wont be that bad.
But PLEASE, for the love of God, invest in football (on campus stadium, attendance, etc).
Packed stadium in Tucson ?
Won't UConn have to either build a bigger stadium or enlarge Renschler Field? Doesn't Big12 require certain stadium capacity?
They would be good for the basketball Conference
@BlyGuy Rentschler field is about 40k capacity (like where Houston plays). There's a plan on file that could expand it to 60k when they renovate.
Welcome to the Big 12 UConn! We look forward to your visit to Provo at the BYU LES and the Marriott Center.
UConn was very competitive 15 years ago. No doubt we can match that and probably exceed it.
Im all in for the move to the Big 12 but watching midweek hoops away games that start at 10 pm or later won't be easy for East Coast fans.
It wouldn't normally be that late. Most of the big 12 is central time, so only an hour difference. So 7pm or 9pm Eastern time on week nights. Only Utah, BYU, AZ, AZ st, Col are mountain time.
As much as i love the BE, this is a no brainer and will make the Big12 a semi-pro league basically
Moving to a power conference means more travel at this point (even in the ACC). If UConn needs power conference money, if they want to keep winning and not get left behind again.
I am pumped! lets goooooo - lets get football in sooner, will be huge help with recruitment and NIL money - well put on challenging coach dan - he thrives on that and youll give it to him
@marksicuso737 It looks like the idea of pushing off UConn joining in football is part of what gets the deal enough votes. In the Big 12, I think a full share of TV revenue is around 50 million per year. So even a partial share could be much more than 7 million per year from the Big East.
Texas Tech Red Raider fan!! Would love to see UCONN in the Big XII if it all works out for both sides.
mark was early and right on this one
Also add:
Villanova, Gonzaga, Georgetown, St John’s… for BB. Give Villanova & Georgetown contracts to play Big12 schools in football to build those programs up…
Is Uconn required to build a new football stadium or increase the seating capacity at Renschler?
Maybe it was fake news, but i think i read at some point that the power conferences have various seating minimums for the football stadiums.
Renschler field has 42,000 capacity. They might need to expand but easily expandable to 50,000. I don’t think that’s a requirement, but I could be wrong. My guess is the requirement will be for football and school to invest a certain sum of money annually and use to recruit and upgrade. But the facilities for football at UConn are pretty top-of-the-line. Just do any UA-cam search. They just lack an on-campus stadium, which would pack out the place constantly since the students wouldn’t have to hop on a 30 minute school bus.
@@sunsensational I just read that Cincy's football stadium only holds 38K, so I guess it doesn't matter in this brave new world of college athletics
As a tech fan if Uconn joins we are legit the best basketball conference in college and basketball is going to be so lite for the coming future
Probably not. History says that UCONN hoops success derives somewhat from BIGEAST membership. The BIG12 is overrated and seems to already be declining to an historical norm. Measured by the NCAAT over the past 10 years (9 seasons), the BIG12 is #2 or #3 in men's basketball. Adjusting for realignment:
ACC - Appeared in 7 of 9 Final Fours (6 different teams)
BE - Appeared in 5 of 9 Final Fours (2 different teams)
B12 - Appeared in 4 of 9 Final Fours (4 different teams)
Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A)
ACC: 9-5-3
B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston)
BIGEAST: 6-4-4
SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK)
B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA)
@@tarheel7406 what do you mean you can show all that all you want but we're still known as the best conference top to bottom
@@antbizzy806 Actual NCAAT results proves that the BIG12 is overrated since it doesn't meet the expectations of the best. In contrast, the SEC easily proves it's the best in football by a similar measure.
Houston, Kansas, Baylor, Arizona, Iowa St. and possibly UConn??
That’s six top 10 teams right there. If Duke or Gonzaga or both follow? Wow!
Think about it, Yormark is going to let his newcomers build their football programs and they will based on their geographical locations. Own basketball in every way, shape, and form and football will follow. No one will be able to touch the Big 12. Yes, fans currently want immediate impactful football programs, but just one or two solid seasons from a few Big 12 teams in football will elevate the conference to a new elite status. Sounds like Yormark and the Big 12 know what they’re doing.
a) Neither BAYLOR not IOWAST are really big basketball brands.
b) After what feasible chain of events ends with DUKE in the BIG12?
Big12 is already 1. Then they added Arizona. Now potentially UConn. Yeah. That is crazy good. $$$. Maybe even duke someday
Measured by the NCAAT over the past 10 years (9 seasons), the BIG12 is #2 or #3 in men's basketball. Adjusting for realignment:
ACC - Appeared in 7 of 9 Final Fours (6 different teams)
BE - Appeared in 5 of 9 Final Fours (2 different teams)
B12 - Appeared in 4 of 9 Final Fours (4 different teams)
Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A)
ACC: 9-5-3
B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston)
BIGEAST: 6-4-4
SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK)
B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA)
Say ain't so bro Big East for life 😢😢😢😢😮
Thank God! The sooner the better. The true Big East (where UConn belonged) died when it split years ago, the Huskies are a 1000 pound behemoth surrounded by small schools. They were left behind by the ACC the two times the raided the old Big East, now they will end up in an even better position then all those teams that jumped to the ACC.
UConn will be voted into the big 12 tuesday morning
Let's get UConn in the Big 12, everyone says let's wait on the ACC to break up but heck half of those teams aren't very good at football or basketball. That's why it's breaking up. UConn men's and women's basketball will make all the big 12 better.
As a huge BE guy, I can't wait for this to be official. League play is gonna be so sick
I agree. I think for a teams to come with UConn. Gonzaga and Missouri.
@@davidframe1613I agree
@@dallasshipley9118 i would invite memphis to come with UConn
UConn joining the Big 12 is a good move for both sides. The only downside is that it would be harder for my Red Raiders to win a Big 12 basketball championship. Hope this happens and welcome all UConn fans to the Big 12!
Yormark tried to get the conference presidents to bite on Gonzaga last year and got laughed out of the room. I have no doubt that he wants to build the ultimate basketball conference, but if it's anything like last year, the presidents will simply ask "how does this improve my revenue?" And if adding UCONN isn't net revenue positive, it isn't happening. And I'm not sure if they are. I'm not an expert in media contacts, maybe they have numbers that say they do add revenue. But I'd be skeptical. I'd like to see those numbers if they think they do.
This might be a great move for the Big East and the Big XII with a true in confrence tournaments with the finals at the Garden.
suggesting that Hurley is worried about beefing up his roster for the Big 12 is hilarious. Guy just won back to back national titles
@@MDK384 Jesus one comment that is pure speculation.. in a 37 min podcast. But ok. If his new reality is he has to get deeper.. it would make sense. Nobody is worried. Don’t even think I said the word worried but if I did it merely an adjective not meant to suggest he’s scared .. but oooook buddy
@@LockedOnUConn Get offended why don't ya. if he thinks he "has" to get deeper, that would suggest he's concerned or "worried" that his teams aren't currently deep enough. Regardless, just thought it was a funny comment considering how deep UConn's rotation has been the last few years.
Also, historically, depth is not a major factor on cbb championship teams. Most title teams have a very tight 6-7 man rotation. UConn has actually been an aberration in that regard, but that's a whole other discussion.
@MDK384 If you don't think Uconn's depth will have to get deeper, you are kidding yourself. Yes, Uconn won march madness, but that is also only 6 games. They play a Big East schedule to get qualified for the tournament and be honest without yourself, the Big East pales in comparison to the difficulty and physical grind of a 20 game season in the best P4 basketball conference.
Yes, Uconn will need depth if they want to win in the Big 12 and then win 6 more games to keep winning national titles. It's a no brainer mate. Playing in the Big East and then finishing the season on 6 hard games, is vastly easier than playing hard games all season long, then still having the depth and strength to cap it off with 6 more hard games.
@@Goeers206 UConn was extremely deep the last two seasons. That's why I found the comment peculiar. Their second unit could've probably been a top 25 team last year. And your comments about the Big East are laughable. They were the 2nd highest ranked conference last season by Kenpom. They put more teams in the sweet 16 last year than the Big 12. Don't insult a great league
@@MDK384 Wasn't insulting them just stating facts, the Big 12 is a deeper and more physical conference. I can guarantee 100% if you all come to the Big 12 it will wear your team down, it's a different game in that league.
EDIT: Also like I said earlier, it's easier to win a few games in a tournament when you haven't been through a meat grinder in conference play, so the Big East having some sweet 16 is great, but if they played a Big 12 schedule they may not have even made it to the dance or so beat up at the end of the reg season and Big 12 tournament they might lose their first game.
You are viewing everything from a Big East lense, Uconn won't be in the Big East
Yormark's grand plan is that he NEEDS UConn to start what he wants...or feels the way things will fall down the road. His plan is to add UConn, then add Gonzaga. He believes those adds could entice Duke/UNC to head to the Big12 when ACC falls apart, and then if he adds those 2, Clemson/FSU would follow....thus adding a TON of money to the TV package.
Big gamble, but thats what he believes will happen, and he has reasons to think that way.
So I’m still not clear on the revenue part of this. Will UCONN garner a full share once football joins in 2031? I wouldn’t do this unless this is the case.
@jamesk7963 It sounds like that's the idea, then they would be part of the new TV contract after 2031. Until that point, I think even a partial revenue share would be substantially more than what they're getting in the Big East.
That’s the idea
@@LockedOnUConn Is there any info on how much the partial share would be until 2031? I haven't heard a number anywhere.
yes if they approve this, full share in 2031, ofcourse that can also change with new developments, but as of now yes
@@MDK384 That i have not been privvy too.
The vast majority of UConn fans are for it.
Good shiiii mark!!!!! 🤘🏼💙
What about UMass ???
Might want to read back up about what the House settlement actually is. No law, an actual dude named Grant House suing the NCAA. Three class action lawsuits including House's rolled into one settlement, agreed to on conditions of change by the NCAA.
Good stuff !!!
Hope Big12 presidents are smart enough to figure out this is in their best interests. I’m not so sure they are smart enough to figure that out, however. They have a track record of stupidity…
Idk if yall would be the big dogs of the big 12 lol. We would definitely love to have yall here in the conference though. Just adds to the absolute basketball powerhouse this conference already is. It might boost y’all’s football program as well.
@joejenkity1704 Big XII would be challenging, but no one was a bigger dog than UConn in the past two tournaments. I'm sure Dan Hurley would love the challenge.
No doubt record will include a few extra losses in that conference. But I feel confident at least right now we would be top three regularly.
@@The_triple_fool I’m definitely not disagreeing with you from last year but 3 different big 12 teams have been in the national championship in the past 5 years. The big 12 is a different beast. I hope yall do join though. That would be sick.
@joejenkity1704 It's hard to think that a program that's won the most basketball championships in the past 25, including a current streak of two in a row, wouldn't be a big dog in the conference. Obviously, even without UConn, it's probably the best basketball conference. It's crazy to think that if UConn was in the Big 12 for the upcoming season, the conference would have 3 of the projected top 5 and 7 of the top 10. There would be great matchups, including the Hurley brothers coaching head to head in a conference. I think it makes sense for the school and the conference.
@@The_triple_fool they’ll be A big dog lol not THE big dog. This big 12 conference schedule ain’t no joke. 3 different big 12 teams have been to the national championship in the past 5 years. If you really think UCONN would run through this conference you are out of your damn mind. The worst team in this conference could beat anybody.
Bring it!!!!
Uconn to Big XII is undoubtedly the right move.
Big 12 should take football, too, now. ,not 2031. They are trying to get Gonzaga with basketball. Big East should bring Gonzaga. Traveling is the problem.
I think UConn n needs a little time to prepare to join the Big 12 in football. I think they know that also because you could look at some devastating football games like 80 to nothing. Let's help them come in the right way and be prepared but basketball comes immediately.
@davidframe1613 they bring enough fans. Ucon football is still FBS. Might be staying in Big East and going down to FCS football
GO GET THAT BREAD!!!
Airline miles anyone????
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Lotta traveling though ! Out in the Boondocks. Houston, Kansas, Iowa State, Texas teams 🤔
Those are also perennial top 25 basketball matchups. It's a lot of travel, but being in a conference with big-time revenue sharing means more travel now. UConn will need the strength and money from a power conference to sustain and build, especially when they start paying players. Other Power conferences aren't much better. ACC might have Eastern schools, but even the ACC has Stanford, California, and SMU. ACC schools aren't happy with the money, and some Eastern might leave and join the Big 12. The Big 10 has a few Eastern schools, but they also have UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Washington. If they join a conference that helps bring in more money, then there will be more travel. If they stay in the Big East, they will struggle to keep up financially. If they leverage basketball success to join a power conference, they could bring in major football money in the near future. They don't want to be left behind in realignment again.
we will get a big 12 east shortly when ACC cracks and crumbles
KU is a 30min drive from KC.
@@davidfloyd9134 UConn east coast though
@@davidfloyd9134 Don't worry, Storrs is in the boondocks.
Big Ten would have been a match but Rutgers? Veto that move..soooo Big 12 to get $$$$$$$$$$$$ plus..22 percent to players...voila bye BE...Now😢😢😢😢
As a UConn fan I hate this. UConn’s identity is in the big east. How can we leave that again after what happened the last time smh
Agreed
It’s not even the original Big East anymore. UConn already bailed on the Big East in 2013 …. Give me a break…. “Identity “….joke ….
The Big East is only half of what it was. Clinging to nostalgia will get UConn left behind again. UConn's Big East revenue share is going to be around 7 million per year, compared to 50-70 million in power conferences. Money matters, especially when schools start using revenue to pay players. UConn would get left behind. Right now, they can leverage basketball success to get in a power conference to reestablish the football program. That makes sustainable championship success possible.
I mean this with all respect but how stupid do you have to be to think this is anything like the last time? First of all we didn't leave last time - we got kicked out. Second of all this isn't the AAC lol this is a power 4 conference - the third conference and best bball conference in the country.
Because being independent in football is unviable meaning they have to find an FBS conference, find an FCS conference or drop the football program. They will also get left behind in basketball as previously mediocre BIG10 & SEC teams make 10x as much money as them & will crush them in NIL. This is UCONN’s only future even if it sucks for the culture
If Big12 does not take on UConn, I bet Yormark starts looking for an exit because his bosses are too stupid for him, his talents wasted. UConn to Big12 is a no brainer.
Same with OrSt & WaSt. 3 perfect fits.
I understand UConn basically has to make this move for financial reasons, but it'll be a shame to see them leave the Big East for basketball if it ends up happening
What's the equivalent of a 10-8 record in the AAC in the B12 lmao
They should grab Memphis as well.
Basketball only?
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UCONN in a northern ACC would be far better.
For football ok, but a lot of basketball games play at night, and that leaves most UCONN fans not watching cause a weekday night basketball game would be too late for most!!
Maybe they would start week night games at 5 or 6 pm, so UCONN and the east coast could watch!
As a mountaineer fan that went the same path from the Big East to the Big 12 you do not want to join the ACC it's getting ready to break up and probably will not find a TV contract without FSU and Clemson. ACC will get picked apart by the Big Ten SEC and Big 12 could take four to eight teams themselves.
@@davidframe1613 Always moronic.... The BIG12 has already broken up. Near certain ACC will have at least a peer Tier 2 deal after some depletion. The BIG12 has already been picked apart.
I would prefer Uconn to stay in the Big East. We are the staple of this region. We ARE the Big East!!!
Not from 2014-2020. If UConn doesn't leverage basketball to get in a power conference (B12, B10, SEC), they will get left behind again. A 7 million revenue share will not be enough when players start getting paid, especially when other schools get 50-70 million per year. If they move now, they might get football back to being successful, like it was in the Big East. Football money is big money. Big money is becoming more necessary for top-level winning.
As a Mountaineer fan we used to be in the Big East also and left for the Big 12, so it's very similar to what UConn is doing at the moment. I would suggest to be prepared because every game will be a challenge but it's well worth it. We would not go back to the Big East. A lot of great teams and people in the Big 12 also.
@davidframe As a lifelong Big 12 and Iowa State fan, we have loved having WVU in the Big 12. I hope with future dominoes we can finally get you guys some closer partners out your way with UConn, Pitt, etc. but either way WVU has been great for the Big 12.
UConn wont be able to compete in football the travel will hurt the basketball team not to even mention the other sports but IM sure it will mean nice salary increases for the administration so what the hell
This will kill the basketball program !!!!!! NOT the first year , not the second year , but soon after. We are in the northeast. We arent in kansas, texas, colorado etc.........how long before that exhausts the kids ?
And when the power conferences have all the resources and form their own tournament, how do you like UConn's chances then?
@thomashlywa7577 The Big XII schools currently get 50 million per year in TV revenue compared to 7 million in the Big East. When schools start to use revenue to pay NIL, that gap in revenue will kill UConn if they stay in the BE. Plus, with all the realignment and many eastern schools unhappy in the ACC, the travel could look different in the future.
As Jim Calhoun one said, do some research and get back to me. Topic is called revenue sharing. Ask yourself 5 to 10 years from now where are the best players going to play option a school that had historic success that can pay 1/10 of what the power conferences and their schools can pay. It’s about the Benjamins my friend And it’s not a question if you’re paying a little less in LL than some other schools. This is revenue sharing. Do you want to share 7 million among all your basketball players or do you want to share 40-60 million
@@greynoise1409 Any new tournament would be an invitational, and a still strong enough BIGEAST would get invites, likely even an autobid for its champ.
NIL is going to destroy Big East Basketball. There will be 1 or 2 schools that might be able to compete but the Xavier’s and DePaul’s of the world are headed to the dumps forever. UConn can’t be in a conference of small fries
@l.wilson3484 When schools start being able to use 20% of their revenue to pay NIL, everything changes. 20% of 50 million is a lot more than 20% of 7 million.
Those schools will be just fine. They do not have massive football expenses.
Sorry jeff not Gary............this is a nightmare all around. It about the money nothing more!!!!!!!
Of course it about the money. It’s the world we have been living in for decades now.
It’s about being able to maintain the talent required to compete in basketball. Research revenue sharing and it’s impact when it takes affect next year. 5 to 10 years from now Connecticut will attract 3 to 4 star players and will not be anywhere near as elite as we are today. It’s impossible when the best players are going to, play at the schools that are paying 10 times what we pay. It’s reality.
And? Go get that bread
CBS Sports reports that the Big 12 is “nowhere close to a vote,” and that if a vote was taken today, it would be 6-2 in favor. With 12 of 16 yes votes needed, this move is nowhere as close to “imminent” as these commentators suggest.
It's all about money no concern about travel time for students is there
@@martinmohney6693 No one's going to want to travel anywhere if UConn doesn't have enough money to be competitive.
Keep uconn big east and football into a Mac or Atlantic conference maybe the one Appalachian state conference, costal Carolina conference
@martinmohney6693 might as well move basketball there too, since they won't have enough money to be competitive when schools start to be able to pay NIL out of their revenue.
God. Please research the impact revenue sharing will have when it begins next year. Once you understand that you realize there will be no elite Connecticut basketball in 5 to 10 years from now.
UCONN needs a on campus football statium. Get it done!
@ervinjd I'm not sure this is realistic. It seems unlikely that a town of 17k could hold a stadium with a capacity of 50-60k. The roads struggle to accommodate traffic from 10k people leaving a basketball game. Imagine 40k+ people trying to get out of Storrs after a football game.
Stillwater is a whole lot bigger, and a 30 to 40 thousand (Houston, Cincinnati) seat would be great. As for traffic, I'm clueless on Connecticut road construction & budget
but having a home statium would be great for students, and fans. The statium in Hartford seems cold and unattractive. Just my thoughts from afar.
Much rather go to ACC
@robsmith734 with its bad TV revenue deal and schools looking to jump ship? That take might not age well.
@@The_triple_fool The BIG12 will pay less, and its best members have already jumped ship.
Nevertheless, the ACC clearly has little to no interest in UCONN.
@tarheel7406 The payout right now seems about the same.
The Big 12 lost their two best football programs. They've stabilized and still have 5 football teams in the top 25 and have 7 of the projected top 10 in basketball. They're positioned to keep building and increasing revenue.
The ACC is likely to lose 2 top football programs with no guarantee they don't lose other schools.When that happens, ACC interest in UConn might change quickly. The ACC should have taken UConn over BC in the first place. UConn would have added much more to the ACC than BC has.
Anyhow, the Big 12 is positioned to move forward and increase revenue in the future, while the ACC has some big problems to fix before they can say that.
It would be a little poetic justice if the ACC uses UConn to stabilize and remain a top basketball conference, setting up UConn to beat up on former Big East rivals (BC, Syracuse, VT, Miami).
@@The_triple_fool
a) The ACC's deal is known to be way below actual market value. This story is now 3 years old.
b) The BIG12 lost its top 6 members (net) and is now ~33% G5 equivalent.
b) The BIG12 has yet to feel the full effects of losing TX/OK and the revenue gap.
c) The ACC's lack of interest in UCONN goes beyond athletics.
d) If anything, the relative value of the BIG12 is likely to decline.
The ACC is already the top basketball conference. It needs it prior football focused expansions to start meeting expectations.
The former BIGEAST schools are among the strongest opponents of adding UCONN.
UConn never should've changed their iconic logo. Now it is so run of the mill.
The friendly Husky is vastly superior. Makes me so mad.
Lol hahahaha
You're kidding, right? The immediate DETRIMENT is to every sport EXCEPT football. The ONLY way that this makes sense is for FOOTBALL to join the Big XII. You haven't mentioned a single benefit to UConn to accept the deal that you've talked about.
Gonzaga doesn't have football! The Big XII won't add a non-football school. What money?
I tuned in to hear about the guarantees to UConn football? You failed to name a single one! Does anyone at UConn talk about football?
Do you have any idea how far it is from Storrs to Phoenix? Your football team actually played there over 10 years ago in a FOOTBALL bowl game. OK, I know you only care about basketball, but will you follow your tennis team to Phoenix? How about your soccer team to Provo?
You guys are clueless. You will get everything you deserve, and it won't be money.
@@terryfox9344 can’t give away the farm terry relax. Ross Dellenger on tomorrow.. as we get closer to his.
@@LockedOnUConn But UCONN is expected to deed over its farm?
Stay in the Big East and dump football or, at least, downgrade football to FCS. UConn football in the Big 12 would be 1-11 in perpetuity.
That's why they won't put UConn football in at the same time as they do basketball because they will need a few years to prepare. Also you have to remember UConn will get more money so they will have more money to invest. UConn used to be okay at football they can do it again.
@MMAALL UConn might be better than Houston already. Even the promise of joining a power conference will help recruiting. UConn football was a Big East conference champ twice and was selling out home games. They can get back there.
@MMAALL Once they join Big XII football, even 1-11 would earn them 50+ million in tv revenue compared to 7 million in the Big East. NIL is going to get more important, UConn won't be competitive in any sport if they stay in the Big East.
All great points here and I understand why they have to make the move. I guess the best way to look at it is a terrible football program is a small price to pay to maintain basketball excellence. I used to be a football season ticket holder, even before their stadium was built, and it was fun to watch competitive D1 football. After Edsall’s first tenure there, however, they became virtually unwatchable, not just one of the worst teams in the nation, but among the worst teams of all time. Going to be tough to ask folks to pony up cash to watch them get blown out weekly.
Can UConn push the Big East schools that have mid level football programs to the point that the Big East Conference can negotiate a big enough TV contract to even the revenue sharing field. Grab Army, Navy, and Temple. Wouldn't be any different than a time table to the Big 12 in 2031 and might cost a lot less. Hate the idea of being pushed around by Kansas et al.
Don't think that's realistic. Those schools simply can't afford the expenses of playing D1 football. Would be nice, but they can't just ask their states for a 40 million dollar subsidy like UConn can
If the BIG12's media deal can tolerate adding UCONN basketball now, why not football?
KANSAS/UCONN wouldn't replace UNC/DUKE. That's delusional.
Anway, as an outsider, I see the BIG12 as the sole feasible chance for UCONN to be elevated (albeit to the Tier 2). Nevertheless, I would not downgrade basketball (at least a risk of same) for a delayed football membership, much less a delayed and contingent membership. At least demand certain football membership, delayed only with some scheduling commitments.
UCONN should do what it thinks best (of course), but I see the BIG12 only on a basketball run with a far less certain future. There's also a risk of BIG12 schools starving other sports in a vain attempt to remain football competitive.
The reason is that ESPN agreed to pay for only Basketball not football.
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@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r For real. We already know his answer to 'Who hurt you"? Pathetic.
@tarheel7406 This year, it looks like UConn/ Kansas would be better than Duke/ UNC.
Even a partial revenue share will be much bigger than in the Big East. UConn football is already improving. Even a future conference alignment will help recruit.
Tarheel dumbass is back again on anything Big 12 related. The ACC is going to lose Florida State and Clemson the minute they can get out, and that makes the ACC complete dog shit in football then. UNC is coveted by the Big Ten and the Tarheels are gone the minute they see nearly $100M in TV revenue alone by the time the next Big Ten deal comes up. Thus making Duke/UNC not a conference game, so yes Kansas/UConn would trump that as the best conference game.