SBB Pendolino through the STUNNING ALPS!
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- This week, we check out one of Swiss operator SBB's "New Pendolinos" on a journey from Geneva to Milan! Comes with a side of scenery!
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Date of Travel: 25 July 2020
Class of Travel: 2nd Class
Rolling Stock: RABe 503/ETR 610 New Pendolino
Cost of Ticket: €39 (£35.20, $47.80)
Origin: Genève-Cornavin, Geneva, Switzerland
Destination: Milano Centrale, Milan, Italy
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Services between Geneva and Milan may be operated by either an SBB unit or a Trenitalia unit with tickets available for purchase on both operators' websites.
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If you noticed some parts of the video sounded a bit "off" this is due to a camera fault. New equipment has now been bought although a few of my upcoming videos may also sound a bit strange. Apologies for this.
No worries mate as long as you got something sorted
No worries!!
I was going to say that was a very quiet train.
Ahhh just posted a question further up that it sounded very muffled like you had something over the microphone
As a struggling middle class American, I've never been farther away from the US than Canada. However, someday I really look forward to visiting Europe and riding the rails, as I love train travel. This looks like a must ride!
You pay to defend Europe. You should see where your tax money is going!
it is going to be a great trip for sure!
Great!
@@3506Dodge
Defending Europe is also in the interests of the US, think about it instead of repeating the usual nonsense.
The money for the defense of Europe is not free, there is a counterpart in terms of national sovereignty.
And that money is certainly not used for infrastructure, transport, health, research, education.
So STOP, please!
@@3506Dodge Lol your country doesn't do that out of free heart, goodness and some religious values WASP old mentality has brainwashed the Americans with over the years. Usual Republican, thinks he's paying because the US is saint and brings peace and love to the world
Re: the delay for the police. On my last trip to Switzerland, the fire alarm in my coach went off just as the train started rolling out of Basel HBF en route to Visp. Some idiot lit up a cigarette in the washroom, and set off the alarm. At the first stop, the police boarded the train and took him away. All of us in that car got vouchers for 8 francs for the inconvenience, usable on trains and at a few other locations. It all happened so quickly that we were back on schedule by the time we reached Berne.
Thanks for the info!
8 francs? So generous
@@counterfit5 Welcome to Switzerland…
If you can arrange and afford it, try to grab a ride with the "Glacier Express" in Switzerland.
It's a train with panoramic cars (a few even open-top) that goes over the mountains as a narrow gauge railway, giving even more incredible views.
The whole route is a Unesco Heritage site.
Hopefully one for the summer!
@@DylansTravelReports I'm not sure if it does the full route in winter, but you can look up footage, it's gorgeous in the snow all the same.
@@Happymali10 The Glacier Express runs all year, at least in a normal year. Not sure about the effect of c-19 though.
Never had a bad journey on Swiss railways as they unlike UK railways concentrate on a passenger rather than profit. Compare this train to the plastic trains GWR etc have
From what I have seen online, it's the DfT's decisions that basically give the feeling that UK railways are about profit than passengers. TOC's don't have any input about what type of trains they get. Basically DfT makes the decision and TOC's basically have to accept it as DfT are basically paying for the trains. Obviously because of the franchise system, TOC's basically can't afford to buy new trains outright as they basically won't make the money back during the franchise period.
Whereas Swiss railway companies basically own the trains, so they have full control over what they want, and they would easily make the money back due to lack of franchise periods.
The scenery was very beautiful and looked like the train was also exceptional.
I don't know how I found your site but I love it! I lived in Italy for 6 years and now being back in the USA, I really miss Europe. Love your videos. Keep up the great work. By the way, How do you afford all these trips? I would love to do what you are doing. Thanks
Thanks a lot! I afford these trips thanks to people like you watching my videos! Every time you're served with an ad, we get a little bit of money 😁
The scenery between Lausanne and Montreux as the line runs along the lake is to die for. If you ever get a chance you should try Montreux-Zweisimmen especially if you can get one of the "cab" seats.
6:49 hope you review that double decker train in the future lol
Nice one. I always love travelling between Switzerland and Italy because of the incredible views. You should try the Bernina Express from Chur to Tirano. One of Europe’s great railway journeys. 😍
I'm hoping to in the summer 😁
@@DylansTravelReports And when you catch the train from Tirano to Milan, I highly recommend making a stopover in Varenna. It's a charming little village on Lake Como. The views are stunning!
The scenery sure was amazing! Since we are on a second lockdown in Scotland I think you should prime your videos as I think it will give your audience something to look forward to during these times.
9:36 No, that's not my phone number 😅
5:22 The bottom plug is for the three stnadards in use in Italy: two pins (Europe-used), Shucko (mainly Germany and Italy) and three pin straight (only Italy uses this type of plug)
Thank you for sharing. I have good memories from Geneva train station. Travelled several time to and from it but never to Milan. Definetelly will travel the same route when this Covid mess will end.
Great video Dylan. One of my lockdown hobbies is watching Swiss Railway cab rides. Check out either Railway Emotions or lorirocks777
The channel called Swedish railcams are also very good.
Thanks 😁
What the hell? Like nobody is wearing a mask.
We have to wear masks in switzerland.
People were wearing masks.
Masks. We ain’t got no masks! We don’t need no mask. I don’t have to show you any stinking masks.
@@miketravels Mike catch covid. Then tell me how it feels.
3:00
The SBB, CFF and FFS lettering can actually be found in large chrome letters on many Re 4/4 and 6/6 locomotives from the SBB, pointing out the cooperation of all parts of switzerland..
Some of this trains in this route will be replaced shortly by newer Stadler Giruno RABe 501 units, as this series (Pendolinos) started replacing the loco-hauled train to Munchen via the newly electrified line in Allgäubahn.
And the sound weren't a problem, I was thinking that was done for reduce some nearby loud sounds
After I get a few other financial and domestic issues sorted, and provided my health doesn't deteriorate (I'm in my early seniors' years), Switzerland and Northern Italy are on the 'Bucket List'. Thank you for this excellent review of your journey from Geneva to Milan.The scenery is simply stunning and you have shown it well. Coupled with your many other videos of your Summer 2020 European travels, this is an excellent salve for anyone viewing your channel that is currently experiencing lockdown, especially your UK compatriots and others in the Northern Hemisphere winter. There are several gems in this video that are worth further comment, so please bear with me.
First, thanks for your warning about the information displays at Geneva being mostly in French. I will need to revise my Year 11 (1968) learnings here, although, as an Aussie, I could probably get away with; "Pardon, je suis Australien et mon Francais n'est tres bien. J'ai besoin d'aide. Parlez vous Anglais?" Most French people with any sense of history would probably go out of their way to assist, given my nation's record in France during World War 1.
Second, I love your appreciation of Art Deco in Geneva station and noted in other of your videos.
Third, this appears to be one of Alstom's really stylish offerings. Don't get me started about the poor riding quality of their Xtrapolis trains here in Melbourne (although I'm sure Alstom Head Office wasn't aware of the terrible condition of some of our track when these were first designed ; track condition has improved somewhat in the last five or so years, but there are still areas where the ride is, shall we say, breathtaking at speed.).
Fourth, I had to really laugh out loud when you revealed the snakes 'n' ladders game on the fold out table. Given a few of my experiences in the last week, it was so poignant.
Fifth, there were several sequences within this video that caused me to pause the play and look more deeply.
As a retired Chartered Member of the Chartered Institute of Transport and Logistics Australia, I noted with extreme interest the following;
1. The Steel Highway Train for Trucks that you passed entering Domodossola,
2. The Milano tram and the boulevard upon which it was running in terms of the clear separation of road service lanes from the main road traffic lanes and the placement of the tramway upon the verge nature strips - we in Melbourne could do with such a road design revision for our St.Kilda Road,
3. The major bus depot you passed just before arriving at Milan.
At the next Victorian Committee meeting of CILTA on Wednesday next (27th), I will draw the attention of the Committee to your video channel and this video in particular for the abovementioned notes.
While you are keeping safe and warm at home in the Inverness winter under lockdown, you might have a chuckle at my personal lockdown during a current heatwave Southeastern Australia is experiencing this weekend (just before our National Holiday). I'm indoors with the fan on and hydrating with iced water while others outside at beaches are exclaiming "Turn me over mum, I'm fried this side!" Amongst other delayed things on my to do list, I'll set aside some time to check out your friend 'Nonstop Eurotrip'. You might like to check out some of our local Aussie rail UA-camrs as well (suggest you start with Pannier P Productions);
Cheers from Michael.
Thanks a lot for your insights! Send us some of that heat, it's freezing here 😅
Very spectacular route! What a pitty, that you missed the southern portal of the Lötschberg-Tunnel in eastern Valais. Spanning over 21.5 miles (36 km) it's the 5th longest rail tunnel in the world. Simplon Tunnel for over 70 years was the worlds longest tunnel.
No fair, how come our Pendolinos don't have fancy seats like those?
Beautiful. I travelled once from Venice to Geneva via Milan. An extraordinary trip. This video refreshes my memory. Alstom coaches are elegant, functional. Stay safe. Love from India
Another trip of my 1980s Interrail travels, 2020-21 style. Different trains and no UA-cam back then, but the stations are still almost the same as I remember them. Fun to watch.
Gli ETR.610 (classificato anche RABe 503 Astoro) sono un gruppo di elettrotreni ad assetto variabile, acquistati dalla cessata compagnia italo-svizzera Cisalpino nel 1997, e costruiti dalla Alstom Ferroviaria, utilizzando la piattaforma denominata Nuovo Pendolino. Dopo la cessione delle attività operative di Cisalpino la flotta venne equamente suddivisa fra i soci Trenitalia e FFS. L'ETR.610 è analogo all'ETR.600, impiegato per il servizio Frecciarossa, dal quale si differenzia per un diverso allestimento interno e per l'equipaggiamento che gli consente di funzionare con quattro tipi diversi di alimentazione elettrica. La parte stilistica, ergonomica e lo studio degli ambienti interni è ad opera dell'azienda di progettazione italiana Italdesign Giugiaro.
Nice video as usual, if you have a chance, you should try SBB CFF FFS RaBe 503 service between Milano and Zürich for 2 reasons:
1. Swiss Alpes scenary
2. The 57km long Gotthard Base Tunnel which is the longest rail tunnel in the world. That is one of the greatest engineering marvel.
Hi.
Done this route,albeit many years ago from Southport to Belgrade. The trains weren't as fast then though. I've been all over Europe by rail, but my wandering days by rail have well gone. I even remember steam train from Calais.
Happy Days!!
Another good video . Keep em coming!!!
Nige
Thanks! Will do 😁
Dylan, the train you're on is absolutely beautiful!
Now THAT is a great train! I was pleased to finally see a restaurant on a European Train! I'd take the trip just to try. Thanks, great video!
Glad you enjoyed 😁
I loved the video. Riding through the mountains of Switzerland and Italy were just so relaxing. Keep safe and keep up the great work. I can't wait till next week's video.
Thanks a lot 😁
Hmm, they seem more light and airy compared to the WCML Pendolinos.
I love your vid's, i often traveled by train trough Switserland and all the time i used the Inter-Rail ticket, so you can travel as much as you like in a lot of country's trough Europe for a certain time. Lugano is my most favorite place in Switserland, it's in Ticino in the south, it's that Italian atmosphere they have there and the beautiful lake Lugano is stunning to see, Greetings from the Netherlands.
Thanks!
Excellent video and excellent scenery. Have you done the St Raphael/Frejus run to San Remo through Cannes Nice and Monaco. Great views of the Med and a picturesque run altogether.
Thanks! I was supposed to but sadly had to cancel.
I think this is the best train, SBB is running at the moment. Girunos are a downgrade
It is clear to me from watching this and other videos in this area about the train travel that it is far superior to flying from spot to spot because you really get to enjoy seeing the mountain scenery and I even enjoy seeing the towns and homes as well as the stations.
Very nice approach to Milan. And thanks for the menu, I'm addicted to this sort of things!
Hlo I am from India I ❤and watching all vlogs plz next trip to Indians trains
Why are most of the people not wearing masks? I see a couple, but that is it.
Very nice video!!! You'll certainly want come back and try the Geneva-St-Gallen double deckers, Montreux-Luzern panoramic, Basel-Chiasso, Albula, Bernina, and Glacier Express lines 😀😀😀, and share it with your fans. I enjoy each of your videos, and they have the immense quality of letting us hear the actual sound of train travel. Keep on the good vibes! 👍👍
Thanks a lot! Glad you're enjoying the videos 😁
That was an ideal ride with those cool blue interiors and beautiful scenery. This was the first train with an operating cafe car that I've seen on your blog in quite a while, though I take it that this was last summer. I can't imagine why the Swiss have their own style of power outlets.
The 3 pins in a row look like the Italian sockets. I think Switzerland use a combination of those and the French/ German style.
Since December last year, swiss operator SOB operates the Gotthart mountain routes with trains from Zurich/Basel all the way to Locarno via the Gotthard mountain route.
This new service called „Traverso“ is operated with brand new stadler trains and seems to offer a interesting on board service including high-quality vending machines.
Maybe something for your next trip to Switzerland 🇨🇭😊
Sounds nice 🙂
That was really wonderful and thankyou for sharing your experience with us.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks, Dylan! I can't find my old message, it may not have come through. All this to tell you that your video is magnificent. Very beautiful landscapes, very beautiful descriptions of the train, you had fun and I with you. Beautiful landscape. What happiness you had to meet nonstop eurotrip who filmed you !!! Very moving !!! Thanks, Dylan !!!
I wanted to know if you got my old message or this one? Is this bug or what ???
Thanks! PS I can read your comment fine 😁
I’m going from Geneva to Milan my question is can i book from the railway station??? Or is it gonna be a lot expensive??
It is always preferable to purchase tickets and reservations at the station counter. For tickets purchased online there are big problems in terms of refunds or replacements, especially in Italy and especially if paid by credit card, debit card and similar
These videos are just the thing to watch during a lockdown January. I know the Swiss part of the journey very well and you had the best kind of weather for that wonderful scenery. The train review was helpful as I don't think I've been on one of those and look forward to trying one. No noticeable issues for me with the sound.
Glad they're brightening up your lockdown a little 😁
I was lucky enough to go on a school trip to CERN a few years ago and spent some time at Geneva-Cornavin, it's a lovely station and Swiss trains were very quiet + comfortable.
What gorgeous scenery! I've traveled to St. Moritz from Milan via Torino and it was worth every minute of train time, much as your ride here was. I love seeing the restaurant car as well - always reminds me of the time when traveling by train seemed so stylish (at least in the movies and Agatha Christie books.)
Thanks for the great review -- see you next week!
Thanks! See you next Friday!
Another great video. Thank you. The carriages were clean and welcoming while the scenery was stunning. The use of face coverings in Geneva seemed variable
Thanks 😁
Stunning views of the Alps 😊 the outside of Milan station looked rather special too
Just a pity you didn’t have anyone to play “Snakes & Ladders” with during the police delays!! Another great film.
Merci-Gratzi🤩
Thanks 😁
Nice trip! I took this train once from Frankfurt to Basel. From my site of view I think it’s one of the best trains from SBB. Normally the trains are not very comfortable and often quite shabby. The worst think in Swiss trains is that you sit via-a-vis to 90%. Especially during COVID crisis it feels not good.
But SBB is always punctual and reliable.
Great video! This train looks amazing, the only thing I don't like about SBB trains is that they have most of the seats configured as table seats. SBB Pendolino on this route is one of the top 10 trains in my wish list, I hope I'll try this train soon ..
Thanks! I agree, for a modern train, it's a bit strange to have so many bays of four. Not so great for a solo traveller like myself.
Thanks. As always, a very good video. As often, a small remark. We in Suisse romande do not know what SBB is. Intercantonal, we have Chemins de Fer Fédéraux (CFF). From Lausanne, Canton Vaud, you have a spectacular view Lac Léman. Only Genèvois call their much less impressive part of the lake Lac de Genève. Another sign of arrogance? The entire basin is called Léman, whether they like it or not. 😇😁
Dylan! You didn't say anything about the sturdiness of the table!
😅
Got a children section seat hopefully wasn't two annoying
A very good video Dylan and the journey I thought was very reasonable at £35. I would love to do the journey and afterwards Milan for shopping and back to Paris on SNCF when
all this is over of course.....
When was this? Looks summery, but mask wearing is almost non-existent.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was switzerland, their pandemic rules were not strict at all when I transited through this summer. Wearing a mask made you look pretty weird
This video was taken in July
@@wilouxwiloux7164 True. We're a little late.
Look in the description
Was filmed late July.
Spectular Scenery of Lake Geneva, the Swiss Alps the little towns in between and coming into Milan; Geneva Station is beautiful; prices were good. This is on my bucket list.
Beautiful experience
So did the Pendolino actually pendel and how did it feel? Was the ride smooth and quiet?? I would really like to know if the amount recline was tiny or generous ??? All these things can make a huge difference on a long haul.
The Pendolinos do actually pendel ;) Fells weird at the start, but you get used to it. The ride isn't the smoothest because the articulation system requires some hard shocks, so it depends on the track conditons. The Recline is rather tiny on SBB trains in general, but it's comfortable enough. And long haul is relative, as most lines are around 3h, but yeah for these it's comfy enough!
another good video,
and a BIG thank you for getting a few shots of the shops at the station, good job
Thanks 😁
Wonderful video Dylan, thank you.
Thanks 😁
Nice trip, that ETR Train is awesome. The disappointment about this trip only when your train got delayed for a while because police enter on the train for unknown reason when in Lausanne. That Rolling Highway a.k.a Train transporting Truck when entering Italy looks great despite the locomotive is hidden behind the train in between your train and the Train transporting Truck.
Another great video. Enjoy your enthusiastic commentary.
Thank you 😁
Took this train in 2019. Same weather. Same delay in Domodossola. Scenery was so good I forgot to check out the restaurant car!
This is Great! Thank you for these super recommendations. I'm making a list!
Amazing run. Switzerland never disappoints. You had good weather which was a bonus. Years ago the Direct Orient Express was routed this way on its run from Paris to Istanbul. Those were the days. 😊
The Alps are one of the world's most beautiful mountains. I now live vicariously through you Dylan. LoL I liked this train. I also liked the dining car. This area is my favorite part of the train. I'm surprised it was open inspire of the pandemic. I now know how to travel from Rome to Switzerland the next time I revisit Rome.
I made the same journey on a Pendalino back in 2016 on a long multi-day trip from Paris to Rome, and it's one of the best railway journeys that I've ever taken. Thanks for reminding me about that wonderful trip...
You should try the route from Milan to Zurich as well. I did it a few times and the scenarios are just as amazing.
Impressive scenery but the old Gotthard route (before the bas tunnel came into operation) is, in my opinion, even more awesome! Out of interest, the unit you travelled on has been a regular performer on the Zurich - Muenchen route via Bregenz and Lindau since the timetable change - not sure if that is good or bad as although the Astoro units are nice, the panorama cars were even better. I have heard that they are now testing these units in Austria so am hoping that they are not put on the Transalpin which is currently loco-hauled with panorama car.
Thank you so much for this, Dylan! As an American traveling to Europe for the first time, this was very helpful. I am taking a train from Geneva to Milan in a couple weeks and this helped me know what to expect. I so appreciate how in-depth you went!
Is larger luggage safe in the storage bins you showed?
I want to be there badly
Thanks for upload
Makes my need to travel intensified
Beautiful scenery, and it's always great to see Milano Centrale again.
One of my favourite stations 😁
wow what amazing scenery the lakes and mountains in both Switzerland and northern italy so beautiful and also the seating looks professional also it must have been a good experience to sit in the dining car and watch the scenery go by
I never notice any sound difficulties...👍
Great great scenary. I am from 🇮🇳.. Next May I am schedule to travel from Rome to Geneva. Is there any train service available?! I want to avoid a flight just to enjoy this beauty... In sites like omio train from Rome to Geneva shows with 1 change in Milan. However if I search with a 3 months gap, no train is showing...
Thanks for sharing Dylan, I missed this trip a few years ago due to a rock on the tracks. Looks like I missed out!
You're right about the scenery, fantastic. Be interesting to see it in winter, snow covered mountains etc. Thanks for sharing.
Nice one.
This is a great railway trip, especially through the Rhône valley to Brig. Switzerland's Fendent wine region. I've travelled on all the lines a few times but never from Geneva to Milan. Thanks for posting.
I used to use this route (but from Lausanne rather than Geneva) fairly regularly earlier this century (in older Pendolinos - I left Switzerland in the same year these new ones were introduced) (actually, I suppose that should be "Pendolini"?). You didn't mention the vineyards between Lausanne and the Rhone valley - yes, Switzerland produces (mostly white) wine! - nor the cacophony of mobile phones pinging as you leave the Simplon Tunnel and the Italian mobile phone networks welcome you to Italy!
I haven't seen this channel before, and I was a bit disappointed that half the video was about the train rather than the passing scenery. Also, sacrilege to waste so much time showing Geneva's modern but pretty boring station, but not even mentioning the glorious architecture of Milan Centrale! The channel is evidently for train buffs rather than for people who want to see out of the window, so, although it was nice to see my old haunts, as far as subscribing goes it's "thanks, but no thanks".
Wonderful video. I like that you wrote everything so we could enjoy the scenery as well. I will be in Milan in September and I am considering taking a day trip to Geneva and spend the night and return the next day. I want to see the Alps and spend the day in Geneva. I didn’t know they mostly spoke French there. Is it hard to navigate the streets of Geneva if you don’t speak French. Do you have any suggestions or recommendations?
Hi Dylan I consider the retail shop the body shop excellent!!! I could spend the whole day their shoppinh
Amazing scenery throughout. Although the Alps were the mainstay, for some reason the flatlands of Italy and its suburbs with the sun beating down on the vegetation caught my attention more.
My great grandad died in the Simplon tunnel during the works, the only engineer to die in the project, all other losses were miners.
I'm sorry to hear.
@@DylansTravelReports It was a long time ago, my Grandmother was 8 years old when this happened.
Either 1902 or 1903.
A strange thing is that his name is mentioned nowhere on the monuments to the lost workers.
On the swiss side since he was working for the italian side and on the monument set up in the years after as he was not a "worker".
The fascist regime of Mussolini was not in favour of recognising a italian engineer under contract with the italian side but working on the swiss digging face.
One thing positive, my grandmother learned french then and became a teacher of that language.
Well, dylan. We made this journey from lucern to milano centrale back in 2015 we had to change trains at zurich. But the scenery is breathtaking. The colours of your images just reminded the ones of ours. Thanks a lot for this review. Greetings and a hug from argentina.
Switzerland must have a very low Covid transmission rate, based on the low number of people wearing masks.
I like the way you casually mentioned Goethe as a diplomat and writer. He is, of course, the Shakespeare of Germany.
Nice vid. We’re doing this route next month. Flying into Geneva then train down to Stresa on Lago Maggiore. We’re returning to the same hotel where we spent our honeymoon - 40 years ago!
So it is almost the same as the PKP Pendolino... did not expect that...
Great report, thanks for sharing.
Thanks 😁
Beautiful trip!!!!!! Wish I was their!! I love your adventures...... they take me there with you!! As always great job!!! Thank you!
Kathy
Washington State
Thanks 😃
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Hi Dylan I enjoyed the video!!!
Glad you enjoyed!
This would have been a good video had you taken the time to narrate it.
I refuse to read my way through it.
So you don't have to have a 'radio voice' Neither do I.
And neither do most UA-camrs. No one expects it.
Great Video, Dylan. I personally would prefer a slower train to make the journey last longer😂.
Regards from the Scottish Highlands
Thomas
Thanks! I see you're also stuck up here in the "Tundra" atm then 😅
This is making me miss the typically twice annual trip I make from London-Poitiers via Paris to see my parents 🤦🏼♂️😅 Good video though, thanks!
Thanks!
Great Video mate ,Thankyou.I love the scenery and Italian Lakes.Been to Lake Garda and it is simply stunning.Keep up the good work.
Thanks 👍
Thank you for another excellent video ! Clearly, in view of your attire, you filmed this video last summer ! The ETR610s are excellent trains, and of course they tilt, which is why the journey time from Geneva to Milan is so good.
Thanks 😁
5:44 you didn’t have to touch this...
If you see what i mean...
I used to live in Montreux and work in Lausanne, so that stretch beside Lake Geneva was my daily commute! Made a wonderful change from the District Line in London...
Oh I can imagine 😅