Thanks for all the great tips guys, it’s definitely new territory for me and I will be getting Weekly lessons to support this journey. In the meantime I am playing around at home to see what works and what doesn’t! Glad I get to share the good the bad and the ugly. This is what my channel has always been about and I hope it makes some of you feel like you are not the only ones going through it 😂😅🥲 excited to show you guys the next update!
Thank you for the update! I've been wondering how things are going. But the confidence issue - it's difficult for a horse that big to jump from such a low, slow canter. That's probably why he gets too close to the jump. The gallop doesn't have to be high in tempo, but the strides should be higher and more energetic. Like a good collected canter in dressage, he should have all of his legs working with the full power he has right now, hind legs stepping under and to have a good posture to his body. That way you also have the choice of have him take longer or shorter strides so he will hit the right spot to make the jump. It'll be easier for Chase and more pleasant for the both of you. He will get more confidence once he knows he can trust you to take him to the right distance from the jump and he has the movement to actually jump.
I feel you on not listening to someone you are close too! Like my mom and sister are better riders then me and one would think I would listen to everything they say, but to me it just sounds like criticism and like they never say I do anything good, when in reality they just say the exact same things as my trainer. 😂😂 So its better to just get my trainer, because that means less fights with my family.
Im doing the exact same thing with my Dressage horse. He was very timid to the jumps, weaving before them etc. I found that letting them run to the jump at first gives them confidence. Once the horse has the confidence then you can start to play around with the canter and start to slow things down but thats what I found useful. Hope this helps :D
You need more power in the canter, not necessarily faster but more impulsion. The only reason he was having the stumbles and trips is because you are training him to be underpowered. More encouragement and commitment from you will help 100%. Keep up the good work though this is so exciting.
as an eventer, i was thinking the same thing! i was like he looks half asleep 😂 sit up leg on keep the contact and hold get him off his front and onto his butt. :)
Yes, exactly what I was thinking. Also a few in-outs and pole work should help Chase finding his rhythm and gets him thinking about distances/gets him more confident.
If you have a hard time listening to Jesse who has jumping experience, please find a coach who is going to help you get on the right track. You are a beautiful dressage rider, man of horse. But maybe you should rewatch your video when you first jump with Chase, and remember how important it is to get help to start a new discipline. Love the videos with Chase, he is my favorite. You guys have a really special bound! Grats
Agreed! That should also help with the horses experience too. One of the things that any trainer will tell you frustrates them like crazy, is riders creating bad habits in their horses because they don't seek advice or listen to it when given. Horses can get bad habits just as easily as riders, lol. It might also help to have a few other people exercise him so he doesn't get complacent.
At this stage is a flash/dropped nose band and martingale really necessary, or is it just there because it is part of "the outfit"? I think a chance to see Jessie schooling Chase,, bit or no bit, could offer much education toward the goal.
Completely agreed, Jesse is a fantastic jumper and is respecting Matt. But I think Matt should really listen just for a few tips from him, since he can see what's happening from on the ground. When you're on a horse you want to be independent and figure things out on your own but it's important to balance that with communication with others with experience like Jesse.
Agreed, I love Matt and his videos but I’ve come to notice that he can be a bit hard headed at times when it comes to taking advice from anyone who’s not considered Olympic level! Which is good in a sense so he won’t pick up any bad habits, but he’ll then also create his own by not getting any instruction whether it be by Jesse or another experienced rider.
Jesse is so understanding you can tell he’s dying to give you advice but doesn’t want to upset you! Enjoy your journey with chase you both look like you having fun ❤️
Beautiful horse and rider...I think you're a great team! Just one gentle thought...Jesse's got a wealth of knowledge in his head and would love to share it. It's not a competition of who knows more. You're each others greatest ally...listen and learn from each other. Love you both!
I think it’s good that you try to keep the same rythme, but maybe you are a little bit to slow for your horse to feel comfortable. And I think that’s why he touches the jump. But as soon as you find the perfect rythme for you too, you guy are going to be excellent ! 🤩
He is a little slow, but when its just these small jumps, its completely fine, its actually great for muscle building going this slow over the jumps! For some bigger jumps, a higher rhythm will certainly come in handy though! I think the biggest problem is, that he doesnt know chases stride length and he keeps turning to the jumps the same place, even though it doesnt line up with the strides, so he either had to turn a little bit later or a little earlier. That is the hardest part when jumping, seeing the stride to a jump and knowing when to turn to make the strides. Getting the strides in a set combination is easy, but knowing when to turn to the first part of the jump, thats hard and you need to be able to see the stride to that, which means knowing exactly how long your horse stride is and being able to see that by free balling it.
Looks like advice from Jesse would b invaluable n this endeavor but not sure Matt is the type of person to accept it. Regardless, Chase is a beautiful horse and is trying very hard.
I agree, he can learn a lot from Jesse if he was open to it. You can tell Jesse wanted to say something and help but he was holding himself back to not interrupt Matt or upset him. Or Matt can hire a coach to work with them once or twice a week
@@judithryle2113 I don't think thats fair in all relationships people pick their battles. I am sure he's got his things. I've heard him say stuff he is particular about also, they both seem like super sweet people. I think Matt gets way over analytical and into his head and Jesse is more earthy gonna feel it out and keep it light and fun and Matt is way more serious. Both ways of being will have pro's and con's. Also this video was basically an ad lol.
It´s very brave to make a video like this and put it on the internet because the opinions are real in the comments. Didn´t see any mean comments, just some great criticism. But that can be hard to take in as well sometimes. Especially when so many are commenting. I´m really happy that you are brave because it´s so much fun to follow your journey together. This is really the videos I´ve been wanting to see. Were you ride your horses.
One thing that might help is extending him just a tiny bit. When the jumps go up you will have to extend and ask for more pace. So if you start then you won’t have to make such a big change later. Also he might not think he has enough strength and rhythm to get over the bigger jumps. That line he could’ve made in a 4 stride fine. The five looked really really good bc he got a little extended after. When you brought him back he came back to a nice easy stride and that helped him get the 5. It’s really good that he is trying to take you to the jumps, I wouldn’t discourage that. Maybe let Jesse school him a bit? Since he has experience jumping. Good Job tho! I love you enthusiasm and optimism.
Also I forgot to say. You making him wait to the fences really helps him jump up and it helps his jump form. You could do a grid or a bounce for 2-3 weeks. It helps build their jump form and get them to know where their legs need to go
I totally agree with all of this. There just isn't enough impulsion for Chase to use that stride and get up. Once the jumps get higher he physically won't be able to take off at this speed with this little impulsion
First time I ever got to see a video that was done only hours ago! I loved it! Butt Matt you have to stop being so egotistical and listen to Jesse as he’s had experience in jumping. Jesse is so well rounded in all areas. I love Chase so much and glad you’re doing more with him and learning to jump!
I agree about Jesse..not just rounded out, but to me just looks like a natural rider, in every video I have ever seen him in, some from years ago. Maybe the gift of this journey will be about growth thru listening and letting go/opening up. I give Matt lots of kudos. He is definetly a natural in front of the camera, and I'm not speaking abou his modeling...he is so natural and at ease, very clear and so articulate in whatever he explains or guides us thru in any of his videos. He is the ultimate host .
I missed videos with Chase, PRE horses are cool and all but first videos with Chase were the ones that brought me to this channel I'm sure he's going to be a great showjumper one day, sending tons of luck :)
Hey Matt, if you don't mind I would love to give you one small advice.. It is correct that he shouldn't run to these jumps but you definitely need a lil more speed so that you get a little more tension on the rains and that his hindleg is like bow you know what I mean hahaah ? Nice and slow-yes but you need to have him a little bit on tension so that he pushes himself off the ground. But I really really love to see you and chase again 3> 3>
I wanna see Jesse on Chase because he is a better show jumper! :) But good to see Chase back on your channel, it seems like he is feeling more happy, because he is back in riding again and not just a horse on the field, he is included in your life again in a more serious way and think he like it! :)
You need more rhythm Matt. Jumping is energetic and if you watch experienced show jumpers, you will see that they have pace! They go ‘’fast’’. You need energy and impulsion. You ride too ‘’dressage-y’’ if I may say so. That slow pace may be reassuring to you but it makes the jumping more difficult for Chase. You should try to work on ground poles first. I love distancing two ground poles at about 25 meters apart and I play at varying my strides. You could also work with ground poles in front of your jumps to regulate your stride. That’s what I do with young horses. It’s great as it gives confidence to the horses. Good luck Matt!
I love all these comments. So kind, generous and decent towards Matt, Jesse, and Chase. Maybe it’s the horse world is much more kinder then American politics.
I think that could apply to political discourse in many countries. It seems to bring out the worst in us while animals appeal to different parts of our brains.
Yes everybody has an opinion... We want the horse to take us to the jump in a balanced, forward (not running) manner. It is vital that you know your horses 12 foot stride if you are going to do jumpers. That 12 foot stride should be together balanced, with forward stride. Canter poles are of much better use than small crossrails. Teach him to canter correctly, on the 12 ft stride first, with the propulsion he will need to ride the course. Then there is lengthening and shortening. 2point/half seat is a must at times. Even posting the cater is helpful. I know everybody giving advice and it's probably annoying. So sorry. One person said you need a jumper trainer. That person is right. Dressage is different than jumpers or ranch riding as is vice versa. I bet you could get someone to come in and help. It would make an awesome video and be a good model of asking for professional help for new rider followers. Great job. Love your videos. Looking forward to seeing how it all goes!
I think that you should trust Jesse and those close to you not to give you bad advice as they are often the only people who will tell you things you need to hear not what you want to hear and there is a big difference between the two. I am so glad to see Chase is happy and having fun. He's such a beautiful soul.
Couldn't agree more with some of the comments. You guys are looking amazing and Chase looks super healthy, but maybe you need to work a little bit more with poles on the ground just to learn how to see strides first and get used to switch between long and short distances. Even the greatest showjumpers work with poles on the ground to perfect the basics, and I'm sure you guys will find the perfect balance eventually. Can't wait to see your progress!
There is a difference between foreword and fast and he is neither. The impulsion and tempo must stay the same but he needs to open up his stride to cover more ground to be forward. You must decide which distance you want and support that the whole approach, especially at the base of the fence. It needs to be the riders decision because the horse, one just learning in particular, can not figure it out on his own. Not hating though, it is very cool that you are trying something new, just trying to give some advice 😊
I completely understand what you mean with not hearing advice from the ones near you but you have to find a trainer. I know that everyone has to start somewhere but especially in the beginning when you start a new discipline everyone needs a trainer and you have to listen to him! As a show jumper myself I saw quit a bit of things to improve that you just did not notice or did with the best intentions to help Chase but it did the opposite. I don't want to be rude and I am really impressed with your courage. :)
Chase is my fav.💗 (Chestnuts/reds are forever my favs.♥️) And Matt, as one who got *a lot* of unsolicited advice from MANY others when retraining my off the track chestnut Thoroughbred boy, - I know how annoying that can be,🤣 do consider letting Jesse help you and be willing to listen to him. He’s so gentle, sweet, helpful, and polite in trying to keep his thoughts to himself!! I wish someone like him were around to help me when I was re-training my boy!! I know Jesse only wants to help and has the knowledge/experience to do so!!
Chase looked like a statue at the start, he just stood so still! Chase is also a very beautiful animal. Jesse is a very rounded horsemen, can't you put your ego aside and learn from him?
Getting advice from people who are close to you is alot harder, so I think its great that they avoid this, it can create tension on the relationship, he said he had a lesson and im sure he will have many more to guide him and chase through this new journey
Chase is so gorgeous! His body is definitely more toned, and his coat shines 🤩! I know nothing about the riding, but I do have a bit of advice. My husband and I have been married for 51 years. I think the keys are, keep your friendship fresh, take accountability for your hurtful words and actions, ask for forgiveness & always forgive. Love you two as a couple ♥️.
As an eventer, and as such used to taking 8 weeks of walk and trot work to start getting a horse fit after just a 2 month holiday. I would suggest you are taking it far too fast with picking up the work. If he has really not been doing much work as you suggest, to be jumping after 6 weeks, and aiming to do 30-40 minute session mainly in canter was shocking. I would expect to start jumping after 3 months of very gradual build up. Even you said you wanted to build his fitness, that takes months not weeks.
Isn't it just amazing and lovely how an good and experienced rider, can still be a beginner in a new discipline! Learning can be tough, enjoy your adventure, chase looks like he is loving his life and that's what's the most important thing here
I think you're an incredible rider Matt, but I definitely think that you and Chase would make a good use of a class from an expert showjump rider / coach. And it's not a bad thing! You would seem to need a bit of information how to count the right spot for jump and Chase needs a bit help with his movement and fitness. Still looking good pals! Keep on practicing!
Yep, almost always rider error at jumps: not counting strides properly, rushing a jump, etc., etc. Chase is an amazing, beautiful & honest horse who ♥️s Matt dearly. So happy to see videos w/Chase. As someone else mentioned, the Pre's are simply STUNNING to watch - but Chase, Jesse's horses & even the ponies 🥳🎈are more 'fun' to watch!
I think you need to get more comfortable with speed, show jumping is fast. I can say your going a bit too slow, working on collection is good for control in those tricky spots but you need to get the horse moving a bit more. More power not necessarily faster pace but more power under you, you have chase too slow and too flat. he's too bunched up and collected to get over the jumps comfortably. Let him out a bit and get some power in his hind I'd also utilize canter poles to help get him organized in front of the jump. Also to help you find your strides.
I think you both would benefit from formal lessons so you aren’t giving chase a bad foundation to build off of. I think you should also work on the mechanical horse so you can work on the jumping position.
Love to watch your videos Matt .... maybe a little more impulsion is needed to the jump as Chase is struggling a little x Trust Jesse .... let him help you xx
This was so fun to watch! Please don't get put off by some of the comments, you can never please everyone when it comes to riding. You're very brave to put your learning process online for everyone to critique. I think you'll keep growing quickly with lessons and Jesse's help! I could really see you trying to be more open to listening throughout the video, even though you said you found it difficult. And Jesse is always so patient and understanding. Keep going, sending love from the UK to you two!
Agree with allowing Jesse help you. But it appears Chase is having a problem finding the takeoff point. Maybe lengthen stride (not speed, just the stride) & placing ground poles.
Yes, the four strides were better. In your warm up, do quarter turns both directions at a walk. Encourage the long strides in the walk so his back won't be tight. I like that you are keeping your rhythm. If you look at your video, you can see that Chase frame was good and the errors happened when he came above the bridle. Matt, walk your distances before you tack up your horse to be certain that the distances are correct. You can even take a tape measure in the beginning to be certain that everything is even. Your ground poles are important. Chase is such a good horse. I love seeing you riding him again. When you first get on Chasey, take your leg out of the stirrup and away from the horse. Sit in the middle of your saddle. Let your leg hang. Roll your knee to the inside so it is pointing forward and your calf is against your horse. Then ask Jesse to adjust your stirrup to hit just at or below your ankle. Shoulder, hip heel... Remember to relax in your shoulders, upper body, so your hands are soft. Take the time to do this when you first get on and flex and turn your horse at the walk. It will help you have a good ride.
Also as a jumper myself, we always want to keep the horse collected going in of course but the counting is not always what you should do. You need to put some trust into him and if he needs a bit more speed or a bit slower let him have that to a degree. You can really injure the horse controlling every step into a jump. This takes time to trust eachother. Rewatching this, he needs a bit more speed and rear implosion. You are holding back a bit.
I was going to say I love that you are showing the good bad and ugly, not just the good, but saw your comment. There is so much that goes into any discipline with horse and I'm glad to see you trying dont give up it will all click in time.
You keep talking about the lack of confidence and ability in Chase. He is doing perfectly fine. He is only doing what you are asking him to do. He is such a well trained and behaving horse (thanks to you) but you need more confidence and training to be able to jump him better. You need to shorten the reins , lighten your seat and get more activity (not speed) and things will get more easy. This is a good start - don’t jump any higher until you are better in the saddle - take more lessons and you will very soon be much better with a good horse like this. Thanks for sharing. And yes _ listen and trust Jessie.
As a former show jumper turned dressage rider, I KNOW there is such a difference. It's amazing that you're doing this. What I found super helpful for horse and rider is riding gymnastics with in and outs, one two and 3 strides. Also, I wouldn't worry about rushing to raise the jumps until both of you have got it down pat, high or low, the important stuff never changes, keeping a good, energetic, steady canter. He definitely needs to be more engaged but he's just coming back and learning something new. And practicing seeing your spot. The best way to do that, I find for myself is pole work, put them all around the area. A fun way to do this is set up a typical course with combinations etc but keep them just as ground poles, that way you work on rhythm, seeing your spot, turns, lengthening and shortening but no issue if you come in wrong and it builds up his confidence. And a canter rail at the first jump is always good to keep them from rushing, which he's not here but also helps to improve your eye which EVERYONE needs to do!! Great work, he is gorgeous and you did a fabulous job!!
G’day Matt Jesse & Co ;-) Partnerships are all about respect.. whether it be a horse dog or human. So remember when you ask another’s opinion, you will get their opinion.. when you ask 10 people you will get 10 opinions. It is up to you to listen very carefully, process the information or constructive criticism, which you then choose to change or modify the behaviour or not, respectfully. Remembering each and every time either partner asks for help, eg. filming each other, always remember to say thanks in appreciation, reinforcing good healthy relationships. As constructive criticism always builds stronger healthier partnerships; while negative criticism actions diminishes partnerships, causing contempt no matter the species. The seesaw effect, bringing another down to you level.. Chase is looking fabulous, as you both do too. Perhaps more of Jessie’s liberty jumping training will help Chases find his balance and timing without another element as a rider and gear. Then you get to see him naturally self adjust his gaits and rounding his back more.. The app looks pretty useful too, ideal to keep track of training and adventures out in the forrest too. With many source blessings with truth clarity love light laughter happiness joy fun play creativity adventures abundance and may peace be with you all! Victoria Australia xox
Its good that you dont let him run away because he’s is insecure but he needs some more speed if he’s gonna grow the courage to jump, its also going to help his jumping form.
Just a few suggestions. A ground pole set up 1 stride before the jump will help both you and Chase find your takeoff point. Also, know your distance between the 2 jumps and how many strides it should be. Then if you don't hit the right distance with the first jump and "chip in" or "stall" out some then you know you will need to push him to make the correct number of strides. Likewise, if he hits a long spot with the first jump then you will need to hold him back or slow him a tad to make the correct strides. If he hits the first jump right on (correctly) then staying the same or steady should result in the correct number of strides. That being said, you need to know how many strides your horse can do comfortably between 2 jumps. Also you may want to work on more responsiveness from your leg and getting Chase to move forward as soon as you ask. Just the slightest amount of pressure from your leg and seat should make Chase move forward. I had a lazy Dutch Warmblood that I needed to do a lot work on moving forward from my leg. If he didn't respond with the first squeeze of my leg I used my dressage whip to ask him to move on. Kept doing this until the slightest squeeze resulted in a forward response. Hope this helps. (Sorry I got a little too wordy.)
Its actually better to know the length of your horses stride, then to try and fit in the amount of strides that the FEI demands is the correct set of strides for the set meters. Because every horse has different stride length, so if you know your horse does 6 strides in 22 meters at 100cm height jump, its better to keep the rhythm and do the 6, instead of pushing for 5, as it "the correct" number of strides. So knowing your horses stride length is the best thing. Especially if you also know how long the strides are on a lazy day or on a crazy day. I was taught how to find my horses stride by picking two points in each end of the arena and then finding the best rhythm for him and then just counting out how many strides where between those two points and then I graduated to poles with 22.5 meters between them and played around with strides. Also, strides also depends on the height of the jump. like 5 strides when jumping 120cm, is not the same as 5 strides when jumping 90cm.
@@TKDDLJ09 Exactly. I started to say something like this but my post was getting WAY too wordy. You definitely need to make adjustments to pushing forward or holding back depending on the situation, ie: higher jumps, distance, approach to first jump in a line etc. etc. Personally from what I have seen of Chase, he appears to be more of a hunter rather than a jumper, but time and training will tell.
@@sitntrot true. But I think it's good that Matt is going this slow arround, because the jumps are tiny so he is actually building a lot of muscles on chase by doing it this slow. But Chase would definitely be a good hunter, because all I know of a hunter is the slow rhythm 😂 Also, I think Chase would be decent enough at jumping, because he has all the basic learnt, and listens to the half halts, so he will be easy to adjust, when Matt get better at seeig a distance to a jump. Because he kept turning at the same place, even though it didn't fit Chases strides. So when Matt's get the hang of seeing a distance, which is hard as fuck, I think Chase will be really good. Especially for adjusting on a course.
Once again I think Matt's saddle does not fit his thigh bone, not sure if lengthing the stirrups would help. "Chair seat" messes with center of gravity..etc
I completely understand where you're coming from when it comes to being surprised about the time it takes to rehabilitate a horse back into athletic shape. Many human athletes also underestimate their own ability to go from sedentary lifestyle to their old athletic benchmarks. Human athletes sometimes will injure themselves because they have the muscle memory but their bodies are not properly prepared. I'm definitely excited to follow your progress
Have to say I’ve never seen a horse put back in work unite like this. My daughter worked with a upper level eventing trainer for several years and they would bring horses back from lay ups starting with long slow hacks with few transitions or circles . Gradually more trot and canter sets got incorporated in the hacking and then slowly ringwork and jumping.
Jesse has to understand..we love your input and advice..please dont change...relationships are hard...forgive forget and move forward...always stay happy both of you..you are both an inspiration to me
You would want to sit lighter in your seat for jumping and when straightening out, have chase go more forward and drive him (sit down in the saddle) to the jump, then two-point ofc. Seemed like he enjoyed jumping!
if you focus a bit less on distances and more on a forward and consistent pace you will find that you rarely miss:) also allowing the horses to regulate their own pace (opening up a stride or two before or compressing their stride) is not necessarily a bad thing. as they get more comfortable with jumping many will actually see their own distances, and more often than not they can pick a better takeoff spot than we can!
I am in agreement with all those who say you need more pace. As you mentioned, you need the consistent rhythm, uphill balance and straightness in approach so that he can push off evenly from the back, but more pace will help. Please also remember that he is still coming back into work and do not overexert him. For the first week after you pulled him out of the field to put him back in work, I would have only walked. From what you've said, it seems like a lesson was learned in this area, so please don't forget it. It's really unfair to them not to let them gain their fitness back slowly. It also isn't great for their soundness and longevity and they will not enjoy the work if they have soreness and you want him to enjoy the work. Don't put your ambition ahead of your horse's wellbeing (not saying you have done that, but we all need to remind ourselves of this). Also, in my experience with horses, the slower you go, the faster you reach your goals. It's counterintuitive, but it's true.
Jess if you’re reading the comments this is for you. Matt has the right to head, & or take advice from who he chooses. But in the end, he is only hindering his own progress by treating you that way. It’s not pleasant to be told your knowledge or opinion doesn’t matter. Just keep in mind his choice doesn’t have to affect you only him.
For me it's great to see you working with Chase. Just enjoy your journey together, and don't let this interfere with your friendship with Jess. I can tell he really wants to help, but guess you have your shall we say quirks which we all do. So taking lessons from a professional would be the best way to go. Enjoyed watching this and seeing Chase, one very beautiful horse. Thank you for sharing and looking forward to next video. Take care both of you and enjoy life to the fullest. Best always Rusty in OK
Laughing at Antares in the background everytime they went by him XD....I think people have to understand that this is new for Matt and Chase, so they are doing well considering that
I know that it's harder to take advice from those closer to you, sometimes, but allowing that another's knowledge may be more than yours at certain points, shows respect, and maturity. Experienced people on the ground, can often get a clearer picture of what is actually happening, than the person in the saddle. I also agree that bringing this horse back to full fitness, and prepared for a different challenge, will definitely take longer to get right, if you are to avoid injuries. Good luck with your new project 👍🥰🤪
I thought of something else. When I rode, I had a terrible eye for coming round the turn and getting the correct stride length to the first jump in a line. Once I was in the line, I could count strides and adjust. So this is what one trainer did to help me. She put four poles on the ground (parallel to the jump) that were each a stride distance apart. The poles acted to help me/horse adjust the stride automatically and make the horse take off at the perfect distance to the jump. That allowed me to practice seeing the perfect combination of speed and distance as I was rounding the turn and setting up for the jump. Practicing over and over again correctly helped me eventually set up without the poles and get the correct striding before the fences. It was much more efficient than sometimes getting it right and sometimes not. It was hard to get the consistency that way. Just something to consider. Good luck!!!
thanks for sharing that! My poor horse when I was younger...he had to put up with my terrible eye and tried to do the best he could dispite me on his back and mouth...I never got very accomplished with jumping, even with lessons...or lessons on other horses either, in later years. I did other things I was good at with horses, and I was an am okay with all that. I think I got a block in my head early on? I applaud your success in overcoming your terrible eye!!!!
@@cricket1301 I dont know if I ever completely overcame the spatial distancing challenges but I definitely improved. Personally I prefer flat work, hacking and just hanging out with horses more than jumping!
I’m so surprised Jesse isn’t allowed to help. He’s an experienced showjumper and a pair of eyes on the ground is always helpful. I’ve never heard of not being able to- or not wanting advice from people you’re close to. Especially if that person has expertise in a field that you don’t. To me that just sounds like an ego problem, or your relationship with that person isn’t great
Hi Matt, Try following Chase's mouth with your hands running your arms forward along the sides of his neck so that Chase can feel that you are giving him some slack so there is no chance of his getting any kind of jab from the bit in his mouth, and push some energy down into your legs and heels as you approach the jump. If you stand up a little in your stirrups a few steps ahead of the jump he will learn that it's time to pay attention to what you're doing and will learn to recognize the signals that you are planning on jumping the jump this time around. He is so used to being a 'riding horse' that he needs to learn how you will signal to him that now you want him to get ready to jump. On foot, why don't you run up to the jump a couple of times yourself. First, run up as if you just want to get to the jump so you could move the bar up or down a notch - nothing else. Then do it again with the intention of actually actually jumping over the jump. Listen to how your muscles feel as you are 'getting ready' to jump. That's the feeling that you need to learn to 'telegraph' to Chase. It may have to be a little 'loud' until he begins to understands what you want. Sometimes you can even lead Chase from the ground towards a jump and jump with him as you both clear it together. Get excited! This has to be fun for both you and Chase! Chase is just gleaming and his dapples show up beautifully.
Yes I agree with some people, you are keeping a nice rhythm but maybe you should try pushing him on a bit more. It will make it easier for chase to find the striding!
Try sitting with more of a light seat and a closed hip angle. It’s harder for the horse to jump with good technique and get off the ground when you’re sitting in a full seat. And try landing off the back side of the jump in a half seat. That’s a really good thing to practice in a grid! My coach a couple weeks ago put trot poles in front of all the jumps so that me and my horse are forced to wait at the base of the jumps. It was a really good exercise for my horse that likes to run at the fences and leave out strides. I hope this helps!
I love that you care about Chase so much! It's hard to start with something so different, I'm glad you are open for advice and you really want to learn and do what's best for the two of you!
Chase is stunning and seems to be coming along quite well. Just remember to not pull him out of fences as much as you can, because you don’t want him to develop a habit for it. I also really respect that you kept the jumps low because a lot of people would have put them at 2ft + right away.
This was very interesting. On a smaller scale I’m keeping track of my steps per day after an illness. It’s slow going but trying to do more every day. 🥰
Matt I’m sure you won’t read this, but I guess someone will and will be helped! You need to get OUT of the saddle! You’re a dressage rider, and you’ve learned that collection and readiness of the horse is the key of riding; but it is only in dressage. When showjumping, you want tension in your reins, not acceleration but control while going (you’ll know when you feel it). Chase may easily jump now, but if you increase the height, this won’t work. You’d need more impulsion and tension to bring him easily over the jumps, and it’ll also be easier for you! 😘 Ground poles will help! And cantering out of the saddle, or “trotting canter poles” maybe 😂😌
I really like that you show us your WHOLE journey and not just the best parts. Its not even bad but other People would still cut it out. They way you show us your progress is the best way :) So we can learn too
Best exercise I always use for jumping is 2 poles on the ground. You can set them a specific distance apart or random. Go down in your regular canter, see how many strides you get and then work to lengthen and shorten the canter strides to add or subtract strides. Makes your eye better approaching the first pole and helps make your canter more adjustable. I do it before every jump session to make sure my eye for distance is good 😊
the jump at 20:37 and the 'get away' phase looked the best of them all there! chase seemed to have caught himself and picked himself up well, just got to trust the little bit of extra impulsion that makes it feel that bit too fast is all they need sometimes to make the stride work! lovely to see more of chase again, your partnership was what brought me to your channel at the start!
you can tell by the way he was playing off his argument with jesse even tho jesse said he was literally just trying to help. then he started blaming chase about his poor jumping like it wasnt rider error
I have an ottb and we’ve been working on going slow and even when she has a slow canter it’s faster than that, it might feel it little bit weird but it really helps with distances to any fence, going that slow is really hard for the horses. Also going at that slow of a pace with bigger fences will lead to refusals which will cause him to lose even more confidence.
I love seeing such a supportive community of riders helping each other out. It definitely shows that show jumping is new to you which is wonderful, and it is such a fun discipline, but as many have already said, the impulsion and quality of the canter is a huge portion of the kind of ride you need. It seems like Chase is open and willing to try but needs that extra "umph" to really find his rhythm. Seeing as you are mainly a dressage rider, getting used to a more bouncy, show jumping canter is a huge change but I think with help from a trainer it will sync up soon and both you and Chase will get more confident going at, not necessarily faster, but more forward paces which will help secure your distances :) :) :)
Matt mentions "show jumping" and competitions often in this video...while there are hunters (field or show ring) eventers, and show jumping ..at this stage the basics of jumping for horse and rider seem like a good goal. That said, Matt took a juming lesson on Chase a couple of years ago , it is on his channel, and they both did really well over a 2.6-3 foot course
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You are right, my mother was an excellent horse person and had great knowledge but if she tried to me advice it was usually met with resentment from me, my coach could tell me the same thing and it was pearls of wisdom! 😁 I love Equilab and use it every time I ride especially now that I’m beginning a young horse and I’m really conscious of how long I ride and how balanced with turns etc I am with her and Equilab really helps.
Can't wait for the next update. I agree with most of the above comments about needing a trainer. One thing that helps me on course is thinking that I need to have a "mama bear" sized canter. If you start off too small there is no smaller to adjust to and you end up riding backwards into tiny spots. Great job though.
riding in half seat will be your best friend while showjumping, also giving the horse some more energy with more speed would be great for Chase! I know you want to let him pick the distance but guiding him some more with adding speed will really improve his leg work on jumps, keep it up :)
I agree. My trainer forced me to sit in half seat during an entire canter for the whole lesson, I was super sore afterwards but it really helped me with posture, and seat when it comes to show jumping
Matt you're not alone here! My mare and I share the same challenges you have with Chase. Eventually I had to learn the rhythm in the flat can feel completely different than while jumping. Sometimes it feels like you are running to the jump but in reality your not going that fast. I had to learn to go at my horses rhythm not what I thought it was supposed to be.
I really enjoy watching your videos. I haven't ridden in several years but regardless, I love horses and I love the way you approach the sport. Your kindness and total regard/concern for the well bring of your horses is outstanding and I hope others who watch and follow you will come to understand the importance of the relationship one must have with their horse(s). Keep up the good work, Matt. Your videos are my happy place.
I would recommend shortening your reins and closing your hip angle because that will help a lot with keeping him balanced and also when you’re approaching your jump your hands won’t end up in your lap, other than that you guys look great!
Chase looks like he was enjoying jumping, it’s lovely to watch you riding him more Matt, l’m sure he will get more confident as you go along, tfs x Julie 🇬🇧
II remember one of your video of November 2017 (Dressage horse tries showjumping - Parts 1 and 2). You asked to G. Sanna (Olympic rider and trainer) what he thought about Chase as a jumper. His answer was " He is a nice jumper " (summary) and you said "Jumping is not easy). During his retirement, Chase enjoyed chilling in the fields but you expected another activity for him. A few weeks ago you decide taking Chase out of retirement. He seems to like jumping so let's going back to trainings. It's not easy for him or for you 😰 Chase's body is incredible, that's right 😍 I believe getting lessons is a great idea 👍Thanks for this frank update and we'll be there for the next one 💙
Yes seems like he is pushing off one back leg more than both going over jumps. He'll get it with practice I'm sure. And yes the dappled are cute on Chase. Good to see him working again. Like to see him out on a hack.
Most important thing is prep or he will get to point & stop if not confident. Ground work underestimated. Jumping lanes free jumping & pole work raising over time just cause can jump 5ft doesnt mean should be - until ready. They need to really be working from hind quarters & fully balanced before truly ready.
Matt, may I suggest you watch Holly Lenahan here on UA-cam? She is from Ireland, recently as a vet and is currently hike n Australia for six months working in an equine hospital. She has two homebred horses in Ireland that she has brought on and jumps. She has bought a thoroughbred in Australia to train as an eventer and she will then sell him before she returns to Ireland. I'm sure she would be able to offer you good advice on training a green horse, which of course chase is at the moment, both because he is coming back into work, and because he has never jumped before. Even watching Holly's videos packs a lot of great incentives and ideas 🙂
So that is a 4 stride but a forward steady 4 stride so a true 4 stride you wanna ride forward and you were still riding 5-6 which is incredibly talented honestly it means hes listening to your aids to go more collected! I admire how well you rode those short distances and i really admire that you are encouraging him to put his feet down in front of each jump a lot of people dont know how important it is to teach your horse to jump correctly! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for all the great tips guys, it’s definitely new territory for me and I will be getting Weekly lessons to support this journey. In the meantime I am playing around at home to see what works and what doesn’t! Glad I get to share the good the bad and the ugly. This is what my channel has always been about and I hope it makes some of you feel like you are not the only ones going through it 😂😅🥲 excited to show you guys the next update!
Please see to chase's sheath as he is squeeking like mad x
Thank you for the update! I've been wondering how things are going.
But the confidence issue - it's difficult for a horse that big to jump from such a low, slow canter. That's probably why he gets too close to the jump. The gallop doesn't have to be high in tempo, but the strides should be higher and more energetic. Like a good collected canter in dressage, he should have all of his legs working with the full power he has right now, hind legs stepping under and to have a good posture to his body. That way you also have the choice of have him take longer or shorter strides so he will hit the right spot to make the jump. It'll be easier for Chase and more pleasant for the both of you. He will get more confidence once he knows he can trust you to take him to the right distance from the jump and he has the movement to actually jump.
I feel you on not listening to someone you are close too! Like my mom and sister are better riders then me and one would think I would listen to everything they say, but to me it just sounds like criticism and like they never say I do anything good, when in reality they just say the exact same things as my trainer. 😂😂 So its better to just get my trainer, because that means less fights with my family.
P.S .Chase is gorgeous!
Im doing the exact same thing with my Dressage horse. He was very timid to the jumps, weaving before them etc. I found that letting them run to the jump at first gives them confidence. Once the horse has the confidence then you can start to play around with the canter and start to slow things down but thats what I found useful. Hope this helps :D
You need more power in the canter, not necessarily faster but more impulsion. The only reason he was having the stumbles and trips is because you are training him to be underpowered. More encouragement and commitment from you will help 100%. Keep up the good work though this is so exciting.
100% agree with this. I was thinking the same when watching.
as an eventer, i was thinking the same thing! i was like he looks half asleep 😂 sit up leg on keep the contact and hold get him off his front and onto his butt. :)
So decent of you to the share advice, am sure he appreciates it.
Yes, exactly what I was thinking. Also a few in-outs and pole work should help Chase finding his rhythm and gets him thinking about distances/gets him more confident.
'70's California Western Pleasure horse came to my mind while watching this:)
If you have a hard time listening to Jesse who has jumping experience, please find a coach who is going to help you get on the right track. You are a beautiful dressage rider, man of horse. But maybe you should rewatch your video when you first jump with Chase, and remember how important it is to get help to start a new discipline.
Love the videos with Chase, he is my favorite. You guys have a really special bound! Grats
Agreed! That should also help with the horses experience too. One of the things that any trainer will tell you frustrates them like crazy, is riders creating bad habits in their horses because they don't seek advice or listen to it when given. Horses can get bad habits just as easily as riders, lol. It might also help to have a few other people exercise him so he doesn't get complacent.
At this stage is a flash/dropped nose band and martingale really necessary, or is it just there because it is part of "the outfit"? I think a chance to see Jessie schooling Chase,, bit or no bit, could offer much education toward the goal.
Completely agreed, Jesse is a fantastic jumper and is respecting Matt. But I think Matt should really listen just for a few tips from him, since he can see what's happening from on the ground. When you're on a horse you want to be independent and figure things out on your own but it's important to balance that with communication with others with experience like Jesse.
@@kponya Matt should ask himself if he’s a joy to know.
Agreed, I love Matt and his videos but I’ve come to notice that he can be a bit hard headed at times when it comes to taking advice from anyone who’s not considered Olympic level! Which is good in a sense so he won’t pick up any bad habits, but he’ll then also create his own by not getting any instruction whether it be by Jesse or another experienced rider.
Jesse is so understanding you can tell he’s dying to give you advice but doesn’t want to upset you! Enjoy your journey with chase you both look like you having fun ❤️
Oh to have Jesse 's insights would be the world. 😍💞
poor jesse 😫
I know don’t you just love them together…….they suit each other.
Jesse will not let you hurt yourself or Chase. If he does say something, you should probably listen. Jumping isn’t your strong suit, either.
Beautiful horse and rider...I think you're a great team! Just one gentle thought...Jesse's got a wealth of knowledge in his head and would love to share it. It's not a competition of who knows more. You're each others greatest ally...listen and learn from each other. Love you both!
well said...
I %100 agree with this!
I think it’s good that you try to keep the same rythme, but maybe you are a little bit to slow for your horse to feel comfortable. And I think that’s why he touches the jump. But as soon as you find the perfect rythme for you too, you guy are going to be excellent ! 🤩
He is a little slow, but when its just these small jumps, its completely fine, its actually great for muscle building going this slow over the jumps! For some bigger jumps, a higher rhythm will certainly come in handy though!
I think the biggest problem is, that he doesnt know chases stride length and he keeps turning to the jumps the same place, even though it doesnt line up with the strides, so he either had to turn a little bit later or a little earlier. That is the hardest part when jumping, seeing the stride to a jump and knowing when to turn to make the strides. Getting the strides in a set combination is easy, but knowing when to turn to the first part of the jump, thats hard and you need to be able to see the stride to that, which means knowing exactly how long your horse stride is and being able to see that by free balling it.
I was going to say exactly the exact same thing, I thing he taking too much speed of him. Personal opinion.
Rhythm.:)
Agree. Need to be more forward
I agree, he definitely needs more impulsion going over :)
Looks like advice from Jesse would b invaluable n this endeavor but not sure Matt is the type of person to accept it. Regardless, Chase is a beautiful horse and is trying very hard.
I agree, he can learn a lot from Jesse if he was open to it. You can tell Jesse wanted to say something and help but he was holding himself back to not interrupt Matt or upset him. Or Matt can hire a coach to work with them once or twice a week
Matt definitely rules the roost . I think Jesse is afraid to speak up to matt
@@judithryle2113 I don't think thats fair in all relationships people pick their battles. I am sure he's got his things. I've heard him say stuff he is particular about also, they both seem like super sweet people. I think Matt gets way over analytical and into his head and Jesse is more earthy gonna feel it out and keep it light and fun and Matt is way more serious. Both ways of being will have pro's and con's. Also this video was basically an ad lol.
I would love to see Jesse jump with Chase some time!!
Agree, I was thinking the same thing, however I think it could hurt someones ego. It would mine 😄
a thousand likes of "ditto" to your comment
@@_AandO_ preach watching him go so slow at the jumps hurt i started saying “leg, leg” out loud
Yes agree! Would be interesting
It´s very brave to make a video like this and put it on the internet because the opinions are real in the comments. Didn´t see any mean comments, just some great criticism. But that can be hard to take in as well sometimes. Especially when so many are commenting. I´m really happy that you are brave because it´s so much fun to follow your journey together. This is really the videos I´ve been wanting to see. Were you ride your horses.
One thing that might help is extending him just a tiny bit. When the jumps go up you will have to extend and ask for more pace. So if you start then you won’t have to make such a big change later. Also he might not think he has enough strength and rhythm to get over the bigger jumps. That line he could’ve made in a 4 stride fine. The five looked really really good bc he got a little extended after. When you brought him back he came back to a nice easy stride and that helped him get the 5. It’s really good that he is trying to take you to the jumps, I wouldn’t discourage that. Maybe let Jesse school him a bit? Since he has experience jumping.
Good Job tho! I love you enthusiasm and optimism.
Also I forgot to say. You making him wait to the fences really helps him jump up and it helps his jump form. You could do a grid or a bounce for 2-3 weeks. It helps build their jump form and get them to know where their legs need to go
@@bellaandcallie_ THISS!!!! 100% THIS!!
I totally agree with all of this. There just isn't enough impulsion for Chase to use that stride and get up. Once the jumps get higher he physically won't be able to take off at this speed with this little impulsion
You are so kind to him, to give pointers and encouragement, bless you.
@@bellaandcallie_ I loved training with gymnastics combos it helps the horse and the rider so much. That could help chase with his confidence too ..
First time I ever got to see a video that was done only hours ago! I loved it! Butt Matt you have to stop being so egotistical and listen to Jesse as he’s had experience in jumping. Jesse is so well rounded in all areas. I love Chase so much and glad you’re doing more with him and learning to jump!
I agree about Jesse..not just rounded out, but to me just looks like a natural rider, in every video I have ever seen him in, some from years ago. Maybe the gift of this journey will be about growth thru listening and letting go/opening up. I give Matt lots of kudos. He is definetly a natural in front of the camera, and I'm not speaking abou his modeling...he is so natural and at ease, very clear and so articulate in whatever he explains or guides us thru in any of his videos. He is the ultimate host .
I missed videos with Chase, PRE horses are cool and all but first videos with Chase were the ones that brought me to this channel
I'm sure he's going to be a great showjumper one day, sending tons of luck :)
Chase: Goes extremely slow
Matt: easy, easy, EASY😂
Chase is looking incredible though!
He’s teaching chase to not rush to the jump 😑
🤣🤣
Hey Matt, if you don't mind I would love to give you one small advice.. It is correct that he shouldn't run to these jumps but you definitely need a lil more speed so that you get a little more tension on the rains and that his hindleg is like bow you know what I mean hahaah ? Nice and slow-yes but you need to have him a little bit on tension so that he pushes himself off the ground. But I really really love to see you and chase again 3> 3>
Very generous of you to share.
He has no idea but cannot shut up. Jesse should take over if they are serious
@@Frommeltje45 post a video of you jumping your high-level dressage horse..then make this comment :)
I wanna see Jesse on Chase because he is a better show jumper! :)
But good to see Chase back on your channel, it seems like he is feeling more happy, because he is back in riding again and not just a horse on the field, he is included in your life again in a more serious way and think he like it! :)
I can feel through the camera Jesse wants to help so bad. But his minor comments can help Matt figure it out with chase.
Love love Chase! Please let Jesse school him. Jesse knows jump. Also qualified jump professional would be helpful. Chase is the best!
You need more rhythm Matt. Jumping is energetic and if you watch experienced show jumpers, you will see that they have pace! They go ‘’fast’’. You need energy and impulsion. You ride too ‘’dressage-y’’ if I may say so. That slow pace may be reassuring to you but it makes the jumping more difficult for Chase. You should try to work on ground poles first. I love distancing two ground poles at about 25 meters apart and I play at varying my strides. You could also work with ground poles in front of your jumps to regulate your stride. That’s what I do with young horses. It’s great as it gives confidence to the horses. Good luck Matt!
I love all these comments. So kind, generous and decent towards Matt, Jesse, and Chase. Maybe it’s the horse world is much more kinder then American politics.
I think that could apply to political discourse in many countries. It seems to bring out the worst in us while animals appeal to different parts of our brains.
Yes everybody has an opinion... We want the horse to take us to the jump in a balanced, forward (not running) manner. It is vital that you know your horses 12 foot stride if you are going to do jumpers. That 12 foot stride should be together balanced, with forward stride. Canter poles are of much better use than small crossrails. Teach him to canter correctly, on the 12 ft stride first, with the propulsion he will need to ride the course. Then there is lengthening and shortening. 2point/half seat is a must at times. Even posting the cater is helpful. I know everybody giving advice and it's probably annoying. So sorry. One person said you need a jumper trainer. That person is right. Dressage is different than jumpers or ranch riding as is vice versa. I bet you could get someone to come in and help. It would make an awesome video and be a good model of asking for professional help for new rider followers. Great job. Love your videos. Looking forward to seeing how it all goes!
I think that you should trust Jesse and those close to you not to give you bad advice as they are often the only people who will tell you things you need to hear not what you want to hear and there is a big difference between the two. I am so glad to see Chase is happy and having fun. He's such a beautiful soul.
Couldn't agree more with some of the comments. You guys are looking amazing and Chase looks super healthy, but maybe you need to work a little bit more with poles on the ground just to learn how to see strides first and get used to switch between long and short distances. Even the greatest showjumpers work with poles on the ground to perfect the basics, and I'm sure you guys will find the perfect balance eventually. Can't wait to see your progress!
THIS!!!
Cavaletti is what they're called.
@@nyxcin1 I was thinking more about actual poles on the ground if you're working on counting strides, but cavaletti would work as well!
Omg what did you do to Jesse that he is afraid to give you advice? 😟😅 poor Jesse ♥️
There is a difference between foreword and fast and he is neither. The impulsion and tempo must stay the same but he needs to open up his stride to cover more ground to be forward. You must decide which distance you want and support that the whole approach, especially at the base of the fence. It needs to be the riders decision because the horse, one just learning in particular, can not figure it out on his own. Not hating though, it is very cool that you are trying something new, just trying to give some advice 😊
I completely understand what you mean with not hearing advice from the ones near you but you have to find a trainer. I know that everyone has to start somewhere but especially in the beginning when you start a new discipline everyone needs a trainer and you have to listen to him!
As a show jumper myself I saw quit a bit of things to improve that you just did not notice or did with the best intentions to help Chase but it did the opposite. I don't want to be rude and I am really impressed with your courage. :)
Chase is my fav.💗 (Chestnuts/reds are forever my favs.♥️)
And Matt, as one who got *a lot* of unsolicited advice from MANY others when retraining my off the track chestnut Thoroughbred boy, - I know how annoying that can be,🤣 do consider letting Jesse help you and be willing to listen to him. He’s so gentle, sweet, helpful, and polite in trying to keep his thoughts to himself!! I wish someone like him were around to help me when I was re-training my boy!! I know Jesse only wants to help and has the knowledge/experience to do so!!
Chase looked like a statue at the start, he just stood so still! Chase is also a very beautiful animal. Jesse is a very rounded horsemen, can't you put your ego aside and learn from him?
Getting advice from people who are close to you is alot harder, so I think its great that they avoid this, it can create tension on the relationship, he said he had a lesson and im sure he will have many more to guide him and chase through this new journey
Chase is the chillest horse I've ever seen. He's always calm, just hanging out and vibing
Chase is so gorgeous! His body is definitely more toned, and his coat shines 🤩! I know nothing about the riding, but I do have a bit of advice. My husband and I have been married for 51 years. I think the keys are, keep your friendship fresh, take accountability for your hurtful words and actions, ask for forgiveness & always forgive. Love you two as a couple ♥️.
As an eventer, and as such used to taking 8 weeks of walk and trot work to start getting a horse fit after just a 2 month holiday. I would suggest you are taking it far too fast with picking up the work. If he has really not been doing much work as you suggest, to be jumping after 6 weeks, and aiming to do 30-40 minute session mainly in canter was shocking. I would expect to start jumping after 3 months of very gradual build up. Even you said you wanted to build his fitness, that takes months not weeks.
Finally a comment saying that it's too early to jump after such a long time of "nothing", thanks !
Isn't it just amazing and lovely how an good and experienced rider, can still be a beginner in a new discipline! Learning can be tough, enjoy your adventure, chase looks like he is loving his life and that's what's the most important thing here
I think you're an incredible rider Matt, but I definitely think that you and Chase would make a good use of a class from an expert showjump rider / coach. And it's not a bad thing! You would seem to need a bit of information how to count the right spot for jump and Chase needs a bit help with his movement and fitness. Still looking good pals! Keep on practicing!
He looks fantastic. It just looks like you might be setting him up in the wrong spot in his stride to jump, which is why he’s tripping over them
Yep, almost always rider error at jumps: not counting strides properly, rushing a jump, etc., etc. Chase is an amazing, beautiful & honest horse who ♥️s Matt dearly. So happy to see videos w/Chase. As someone else mentioned, the Pre's are simply STUNNING to watch - but Chase, Jesse's horses & even the ponies 🥳🎈are more 'fun' to watch!
I think you need to get more comfortable with speed, show jumping is fast. I can say your going a bit too slow, working on collection is good for control in those tricky spots but you need to get the horse moving a bit more. More power not necessarily faster pace but more power under you, you have chase too slow and too flat. he's too bunched up and collected to get over the jumps comfortably. Let him out a bit and get some power in his hind I'd also utilize canter poles to help get him organized in front of the jump. Also to help you find your strides.
I think you both would benefit from formal lessons so you aren’t giving chase a bad foundation to build off of. I think you should also work on the mechanical horse so you can work on the jumping position.
Alot of 2 point and no sturrups will help too.
Chase is gonna make a lovely jumper I think! 😄
Love to watch your videos Matt .... maybe a little more impulsion is needed to the jump as Chase is struggling a little x
Trust Jesse .... let him help you xx
You really need a higher tempo and make sure you keep that tempo through the turn up to the obstacle. And pls, listen to Jessa.
This was so fun to watch! Please don't get put off by some of the comments, you can never please everyone when it comes to riding. You're very brave to put your learning process online for everyone to critique. I think you'll keep growing quickly with lessons and Jesse's help! I could really see you trying to be more open to listening throughout the video, even though you said you found it difficult. And Jesse is always so patient and understanding. Keep going, sending love from the UK to you two!
Agree with allowing Jesse help you. But it appears Chase is having a problem finding the takeoff point. Maybe lengthen stride (not speed, just the stride) & placing ground poles.
Yes, the four strides were better. In your warm up, do quarter turns both directions at a walk. Encourage the long strides in the walk so his back won't be tight. I like that you are keeping your rhythm. If you look at your video, you can see that Chase frame was good and the errors happened when he came above the bridle. Matt, walk your distances before you tack up your horse to be certain that the distances are correct. You can even take a tape measure in the beginning to be certain that everything is even. Your ground poles are important. Chase is such a good horse. I love seeing you riding him again. When you first get on Chasey, take your leg out of the stirrup and away from the horse. Sit in the middle of your saddle. Let your leg hang. Roll your knee to the inside so it is pointing forward and your calf is against your horse. Then ask Jesse to adjust your stirrup to hit just at or below your ankle. Shoulder, hip heel... Remember to relax in your shoulders, upper body, so your hands are soft. Take the time to do this when you first get on and flex and turn your horse at the walk. It will help you have a good ride.
Also as a jumper myself, we always want to keep the horse collected going in of course but the counting is not always what you should do. You need to put some trust into him and if he needs a bit more speed or a bit slower let him have that to a degree. You can really injure the horse controlling every step into a jump. This takes time to trust eachother. Rewatching this, he needs a bit more speed and rear implosion. You are holding back a bit.
anyone else mentally screaming more power and a bit more speed in your trainers voice? just me? lol
I was going to say I love that you are showing the good bad and ugly, not just the good, but saw your comment. There is so much that goes into any discipline with horse and I'm glad to see you trying dont give up it will all click in time.
You keep talking about the lack of confidence and ability in Chase. He is doing perfectly fine. He is only doing what you are asking him to do. He is such a well trained and behaving horse (thanks to you) but you need more confidence and training to be able to jump him better. You need to shorten the reins , lighten your seat and get more activity (not speed) and things will get more easy. This is a good start - don’t jump any higher until you are better in the saddle - take more lessons and you will very soon be much better with a good horse like this. Thanks for sharing. And yes _ listen and trust Jessie.
As a former show jumper turned dressage rider, I KNOW there is such a difference. It's amazing that you're doing this. What I found super helpful for horse and rider is riding gymnastics with in and outs, one two and 3 strides. Also, I wouldn't worry about rushing to raise the jumps until both of you have got it down pat, high or low, the important stuff never changes, keeping a good, energetic, steady canter. He definitely needs to be more engaged but he's just coming back and learning something new. And practicing seeing your spot. The best way to do that, I find for myself is pole work, put them all around the area. A fun way to do this is set up a typical course with combinations etc but keep them just as ground poles, that way you work on rhythm, seeing your spot, turns, lengthening and shortening but no issue if you come in wrong and it builds up his confidence. And a canter rail at the first jump is always good to keep them from rushing, which he's not here but also helps to improve your eye which EVERYONE needs to do!! Great work, he is gorgeous and you did a fabulous job!!
G’day Matt Jesse & Co ;-) Partnerships are all about respect.. whether it be a horse dog or human.
So remember when you ask another’s opinion, you will get their opinion..
when you ask 10 people you will get 10 opinions.
It is up to you to listen very carefully, process the information or constructive criticism, which you then choose to change or modify the behaviour or not, respectfully.
Remembering each and every time either partner asks for help, eg. filming each other, always remember to say thanks in appreciation, reinforcing good healthy relationships.
As constructive criticism always builds stronger healthier partnerships;
while negative criticism actions diminishes partnerships, causing contempt no matter the species.
The seesaw effect, bringing another down to you level..
Chase is looking fabulous, as you both do too.
Perhaps more of Jessie’s liberty jumping training will help Chases find his balance and timing without another element as a rider and gear. Then you get to see him naturally self adjust his gaits and rounding his back more..
The app looks pretty useful too, ideal to keep track of training and adventures out in the forrest too.
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Its good that you dont let him run away because he’s is insecure but he needs some more speed if he’s gonna grow the courage to jump, its also going to help his jumping form.
chase is such a cute horse, I love how he looks when his mane blows back in the wind. I think it must be the best fate to be a well cared for horse
Just a few suggestions. A ground pole set up 1 stride before the jump will help both you and Chase find your takeoff point. Also, know your distance between the 2 jumps and how many strides it should be. Then if you don't hit the right distance with the first jump and "chip in" or "stall" out some then you know you will need to push him to make the correct number of strides. Likewise, if he hits a long spot with the first jump then you will need to hold him back or slow him a tad to make the correct strides. If he hits the first jump right on (correctly) then staying the same or steady should result in the correct number of strides. That being said, you need to know how many strides your horse can do comfortably between 2 jumps. Also you may want to work on more responsiveness from your leg and getting Chase to move forward as soon as you ask. Just the slightest amount of pressure from your leg and seat should make Chase move forward. I had a lazy Dutch Warmblood that I needed to do a lot work on moving forward from my leg. If he didn't respond with the first squeeze of my leg I used my dressage whip to ask him to move on. Kept doing this until the slightest squeeze resulted in a forward response. Hope this helps. (Sorry I got a little too wordy.)
A ground pole is super helpful! Chase is taking off too late each time, I would say.
Yea a ground pole would be helpful
Its actually better to know the length of your horses stride, then to try and fit in the amount of strides that the FEI demands is the correct set of strides for the set meters. Because every horse has different stride length, so if you know your horse does 6 strides in 22 meters at 100cm height jump, its better to keep the rhythm and do the 6, instead of pushing for 5, as it "the correct" number of strides. So knowing your horses stride length is the best thing. Especially if you also know how long the strides are on a lazy day or on a crazy day.
I was taught how to find my horses stride by picking two points in each end of the arena and then finding the best rhythm for him and then just counting out how many strides where between those two points and then I graduated to poles with 22.5 meters between them and played around with strides. Also, strides also depends on the height of the jump. like 5 strides when jumping 120cm, is not the same as 5 strides when jumping 90cm.
@@TKDDLJ09 Exactly. I started to say something like this but my post was getting WAY too wordy. You definitely need to make adjustments to pushing forward or holding back depending on the situation, ie: higher jumps, distance, approach to first jump in a line etc. etc. Personally from what I have seen of Chase, he appears to be more of a hunter rather than a jumper, but time and training will tell.
@@sitntrot true. But I think it's good that Matt is going this slow arround, because the jumps are tiny so he is actually building a lot of muscles on chase by doing it this slow. But Chase would definitely be a good hunter, because all I know of a hunter is the slow rhythm 😂
Also, I think Chase would be decent enough at jumping, because he has all the basic learnt, and listens to the half halts, so he will be easy to adjust, when Matt get better at seeig a distance to a jump. Because he kept turning at the same place, even though it didn't fit Chases strides. So when Matt's get the hang of seeing a distance, which is hard as fuck, I think Chase will be really good. Especially for adjusting on a course.
If you step of his back a little it will help him. When you sit it makes it harder for h to move.
Once again I think Matt's saddle does not fit his thigh bone, not sure if lengthing the stirrups would help. "Chair seat" messes with center of gravity..etc
I completely understand where you're coming from when it comes to being surprised about the time it takes to rehabilitate a horse back into athletic shape. Many human athletes also underestimate their own ability to go from sedentary lifestyle to their old athletic benchmarks. Human athletes sometimes will injure themselves because they have the muscle memory but their bodies are not properly prepared. I'm definitely excited to follow your progress
Have to say I’ve never seen a horse put back in work unite like this. My daughter worked with a upper level eventing trainer for several years and they would bring horses back from lay ups starting with long slow hacks with few transitions or circles . Gradually more trot and canter sets got incorporated in the hacking and then slowly ringwork and jumping.
Definitely need more engagement and bounce in the canter.
Jesse has to understand..we love your input and advice..please dont change...relationships are hard...forgive forget and move forward...always stay happy both of you..you are both an inspiration to me
You would want to sit lighter in your seat for jumping and when straightening out, have chase go more forward and drive him (sit down in the saddle) to the jump, then two-point ofc. Seemed like he enjoyed jumping!
if you focus a bit less on distances and more on a forward and consistent pace you will find that you rarely miss:) also allowing the horses to regulate their own pace (opening up a stride or two before or compressing their stride) is not necessarily a bad thing. as they get more comfortable with jumping many will actually see their own distances, and more often than not they can pick a better takeoff spot than we can!
I am in agreement with all those who say you need more pace. As you mentioned, you need the consistent rhythm, uphill balance and straightness in approach so that he can push off evenly from the back, but more pace will help. Please also remember that he is still coming back into work and do not overexert him. For the first week after you pulled him out of the field to put him back in work, I would have only walked. From what you've said, it seems like a lesson was learned in this area, so please don't forget it. It's really unfair to them not to let them gain their fitness back slowly. It also isn't great for their soundness and longevity and they will not enjoy the work if they have soreness and you want him to enjoy the work. Don't put your ambition ahead of your horse's wellbeing (not saying you have done that, but we all need to remind ourselves of this). Also, in my experience with horses, the slower you go, the faster you reach your goals. It's counterintuitive, but it's true.
Jess if you’re reading the comments this is for you. Matt has the right to head, & or take advice from who he chooses. But in the end, he is only hindering his own progress by treating you that way. It’s not pleasant to be told your knowledge or opinion doesn’t matter. Just keep in mind his choice doesn’t have to affect you only him.
For me it's great to see you working with Chase. Just enjoy your journey together, and don't let this interfere with your friendship with Jess. I can tell he really wants to help, but guess you have your shall we say quirks which we all do. So taking lessons from a professional would be the best way to go. Enjoyed watching this and seeing Chase, one very beautiful horse. Thank you for sharing and looking forward to next video. Take care both of you and enjoy life to the fullest. Best always Rusty in OK
Laughing at Antares in the background everytime they went by him XD....I think people have to understand that this is new for Matt and Chase, so they are doing well considering that
Ha! I did too. He was pinning his ears. 😄
I would love to see a video where Jesse jumps too, maybe chase idk but I would love to see him because he jumped professional before.
yes, yes!!
I know that it's harder to take advice from those closer to you, sometimes, but allowing that another's knowledge may be more than yours at certain points, shows respect, and maturity.
Experienced people on the ground, can often get a clearer picture of what is actually happening, than the person in the saddle. I also agree that bringing this horse back to full fitness, and prepared for a different challenge, will definitely take longer to get right, if you are to avoid injuries. Good luck with your new project 👍🥰🤪
Letting Chase be ridden by a show jumper trainer will be helpful as they can built their foundation
I thought of something else. When I rode, I had a terrible eye for coming round the turn and getting the correct stride length to the first jump in a line. Once I was in the line, I could count strides and adjust. So this is what one trainer did to help me. She put four poles on the ground (parallel to the jump) that were each a stride distance apart. The poles acted to help me/horse adjust the stride automatically and make the horse take off at the perfect distance to the jump. That allowed me to practice seeing the perfect combination of speed and distance as I was rounding the turn and setting up for the jump. Practicing over and over again correctly helped me eventually set up without the poles and get the correct striding before the fences. It was much more efficient than sometimes getting it right and sometimes not. It was hard to get the consistency that way. Just something to consider. Good luck!!!
thanks for sharing that! My poor horse when I was younger...he had to put up with my terrible eye and tried to do the best he could dispite me on his back and mouth...I never got very accomplished with jumping, even with lessons...or lessons on other horses either, in later years. I did other things I was good at with horses, and I was an am okay with all that. I think I got a block in my head early on? I applaud your success in overcoming your terrible eye!!!!
@@cricket1301 I dont know if I ever completely overcame the spatial distancing challenges but I definitely improved. Personally I prefer flat work, hacking and just hanging out with horses more than jumping!
Whenever you show him in the sunlight, I'm always amazed at how beautiful Chase is...and he looks very happy with your new regime!💕
I’m so surprised Jesse isn’t allowed to help. He’s an experienced showjumper and a pair of eyes on the ground is always helpful. I’ve never heard of not being able to- or not wanting advice from people you’re close to. Especially if that person has expertise in a field that you don’t. To me that just sounds like an ego problem, or your relationship with that person isn’t great
It's probably both in this case. Which is sad.
Definitely appears to be stubbornness and ego here
You have an experienced show jumping rider in your household. I found this a struggle to watch.
I agree!!
the truth so well said:)
Agree
Hi Matt, Try following Chase's mouth with your hands running your arms forward along the sides of his neck so that Chase can feel that you are giving him some slack so there is no chance of his getting any kind of jab from the bit in his mouth, and push some energy down into your legs and heels as you approach the jump. If you stand up a little in your stirrups a few steps ahead of the jump he will learn that it's time to pay attention to what you're doing and will learn to recognize the signals that you are planning on jumping the jump this time around. He is so used to being a 'riding horse' that he needs to learn how you will signal to him that now you want him to get ready to jump.
On foot, why don't you run up to the jump a couple of times yourself. First, run up as if you just want to get to the jump so you could move the bar up or down a notch - nothing else. Then do it again with the intention of actually actually jumping over the jump. Listen to how your muscles feel as you are 'getting ready' to jump. That's the feeling that you need to learn to 'telegraph' to Chase. It may have to be a little 'loud' until he begins to understands what you want. Sometimes you can even lead Chase from the ground towards a jump and jump with him as you both clear it together. Get excited! This has to be fun for both you and Chase! Chase is just gleaming and his dapples show up beautifully.
Yes I agree with some people, you are keeping a nice rhythm but maybe you should try pushing him on a bit more. It will make it easier for chase to find the striding!
Try sitting with more of a light seat and a closed hip angle. It’s harder for the horse to jump with good technique and get off the ground when you’re sitting in a full seat. And try landing off the back side of the jump in a half seat. That’s a really good thing to practice in a grid! My coach a couple weeks ago put trot poles in front of all the jumps so that me and my horse are forced to wait at the base of the jumps. It was a really good exercise for my horse that likes to run at the fences and leave out strides. I hope this helps!
Yes, agreed trot poles very helpful.
I think all of Matt's saddles are to short for his thigh bone...bottom hits the curve of the cantle
I love that you care about Chase so much! It's hard to start with something so different, I'm glad you are open for advice and you really want to learn and do what's best for the two of you!
Chase is stunning and seems to be coming along quite well. Just remember to not pull him out of fences as much as you can, because you don’t want him to develop a habit for it. I also really respect that you kept the jumps low because a lot of people would have put them at 2ft + right away.
This was very interesting. On a smaller scale I’m keeping track of my steps per day after an illness. It’s slow going but trying to do more every day. 🥰
Matt I’m sure you won’t read this, but I guess someone will and will be helped! You need to get OUT of the saddle! You’re a dressage rider, and you’ve learned that collection and readiness of the horse is the key of riding; but it is only in dressage. When showjumping, you want tension in your reins, not acceleration but control while going (you’ll know when you feel it). Chase may easily jump now, but if you increase the height, this won’t work. You’d need more impulsion and tension to bring him easily over the jumps, and it’ll also be easier for you! 😘 Ground poles will help! And cantering out of the saddle, or “trotting canter poles” maybe 😂😌
You need to learn to have your balance less in your sit/hips than in your legs/stirrups !
I really like that you show us your WHOLE journey and not just the best parts. Its not even bad but other People would still cut it out.
They way you show us your progress is the best way :) So we can learn too
Great video! Cool to see your honest journey. So many people sugar coat the real process. Thanks!
Best exercise I always use for jumping is 2 poles on the ground. You can set them a specific distance apart or random. Go down in your regular canter, see how many strides you get and then work to lengthen and shorten the canter strides to add or subtract strides. Makes your eye better approaching the first pole and helps make your canter more adjustable.
I do it before every jump session to make sure my eye for distance is good 😊
the jump at 20:37 and the 'get away' phase looked the best of them all there! chase seemed to have caught himself and picked himself up well, just got to trust the little bit of extra impulsion that makes it feel that bit too fast is all they need sometimes to make the stride work! lovely to see more of chase again, your partnership was what brought me to your channel at the start!
I wonder that some days Matt’s not a lot of fun to live with.
He seems honest and smart, Jesse maybe a tiny bit more feeling and sensitive. A perfect pair.
He is spoiled and full of himself. I am, I did, I said. Jesse is a good Dutch boy, very honest. Hope he runs from this one man show
you can tell by the way he was playing off his argument with jesse even tho jesse said he was literally just trying to help. then he started blaming chase about his poor jumping like it wasnt rider error
@@Frommeltje45 perfectly said
I think Jesse is intimated by bossy matt
I have an ottb and we’ve been working on going slow and even when she has a slow canter it’s faster than that, it might feel it little bit weird but it really helps with distances to any fence, going that slow is really hard for the horses. Also going at that slow of a pace with bigger fences will lead to refusals which will cause him to lose even more confidence.
I love seeing such a supportive community of riders helping each other out. It definitely shows that show jumping is new to you which is wonderful, and it is such a fun discipline, but as many have already said, the impulsion and quality of the canter is a huge portion of the kind of ride you need. It seems like Chase is open and willing to try but needs that extra "umph" to really find his rhythm. Seeing as you are mainly a dressage rider, getting used to a more bouncy, show jumping canter is a huge change but I think with help from a trainer it will sync up soon and both you and Chase will get more confident going at, not necessarily faster, but more forward paces which will help secure your distances :) :) :)
Matt mentions "show jumping" and competitions often in this video...while there are hunters (field or show ring) eventers, and show jumping ..at this stage the basics of jumping for horse and rider seem like a good goal. That said, Matt took a juming lesson on Chase a couple of years ago , it is on his channel, and they both did really well over a 2.6-3 foot course
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I love these kind of videos. Chase is the best horse ever. He would do everything for you 😍
I appreciate your honest ride on chase. I think it’s great that your able to show growth in both of yours riding. Keep up the hard work!
So happy to see Matt & Chase riding again. Chase has the ability to be an awesome jumper!
Chase looks incredible😍
Chase is such a beautiful horse, he's a pleasure to watch. 🐴💜
You are right, my mother was an excellent horse person and had great knowledge but if she tried to me advice it was usually met with resentment from me, my coach could tell me the same thing and it was pearls of wisdom! 😁 I love Equilab and use it every time I ride especially now that I’m beginning a young horse and I’m really conscious of how long I ride and how balanced with turns etc I am with her and Equilab really helps.
Why? Why do we do that to ourselves?
@@dawnaustin4556 I wish I could answer that question, it would sure make a lot of relationships easier!😉
Can't wait for the next update. I agree with most of the above comments about needing a trainer. One thing that helps me on course is thinking that I need to have a "mama bear" sized canter. If you start off too small there is no smaller to adjust to and you end up riding backwards into tiny spots. Great job though.
riding in half seat will be your best friend while showjumping, also giving the horse some more energy with more speed would be great for Chase! I know you want to let him pick the distance but guiding him some more with adding speed will really improve his leg work on jumps, keep it up :)
I agree. My trainer forced me to sit in half seat during an entire canter for the whole lesson, I was super sore afterwards but it really helped me with posture, and seat when it comes to show jumping
Matt you're not alone here! My mare and I share the same challenges you have with Chase. Eventually I had to learn the rhythm in the flat can feel completely different than while jumping. Sometimes it feels like you are running to the jump but in reality your not going that fast. I had to learn to go at my horses rhythm not what I thought it was supposed to be.
I really enjoy watching your videos. I haven't ridden in several years but regardless, I love horses and I love the way you approach the sport. Your kindness and total regard/concern for the well bring of your horses is outstanding and I hope others who watch and follow you will come to understand the importance of the relationship one must have with their horse(s). Keep up the good work, Matt. Your videos are my happy place.
I would recommend shortening your reins and closing your hip angle because that will help a lot with keeping him balanced and also when you’re approaching your jump your hands won’t end up in your lap, other than that you guys look great!
Wow...He looks stunning! Looking forward to seeing him progress. (from viewer in Arizona, USA)
Chase looks like he was enjoying jumping, it’s lovely to watch you riding him more Matt, l’m sure he will get more confident as you go along, tfs x Julie 🇬🇧
You two are doing beautiful together! Celebrate your successes! Because you two are on the road to success! One jump at a time!
II remember one of your video of November 2017 (Dressage horse tries showjumping - Parts 1 and 2). You asked to G. Sanna (Olympic rider and trainer) what he thought about Chase as a jumper. His answer was " He is a nice jumper " (summary) and you said "Jumping is not easy). During his retirement, Chase enjoyed chilling in the fields but you expected another activity for him. A few weeks ago you decide taking Chase out of retirement. He seems to like jumping so let's going back to trainings. It's not easy for him or for you 😰 Chase's body is incredible, that's right 😍 I believe getting lessons is a great idea 👍Thanks for this frank update and we'll be there for the next one 💙
I just remembered that video of the jumping lesson they took. I thought they did good too.
Yes seems like he is pushing off one back leg more than both going over jumps. He'll get it with practice I'm sure. And yes the dappled are cute on Chase. Good to see him working again. Like to see him out on a hack.
Most important thing is prep or he will get to point & stop if not confident. Ground work underestimated. Jumping lanes free jumping & pole work raising over time just cause can jump 5ft doesnt mean should be - until ready. They need to really be working from hind quarters & fully balanced before truly ready.
Matt, may I suggest you watch Holly Lenahan here on UA-cam? She is from Ireland, recently as a vet and is currently hike n Australia for six months working in an equine hospital. She has two homebred horses in Ireland that she has brought on and jumps. She has bought a thoroughbred in Australia to train as an eventer and she will then sell him before she returns to Ireland. I'm sure she would be able to offer you good advice on training a green horse, which of course chase is at the moment, both because he is coming back into work, and because he has never jumped before. Even watching Holly's videos packs a lot of great incentives and ideas 🙂
So that is a 4 stride but a forward steady 4 stride so a true 4 stride you wanna ride forward and you were still riding 5-6 which is incredibly talented honestly it means hes listening to your aids to go more collected! I admire how well you rode those short distances and i really admire that you are encouraging him to put his feet down in front of each jump a lot of people dont know how important it is to teach your horse to jump correctly! Keep up the great work!