I started getting into the sport around the time that the Speed channel was beginning to shut down. I had no idea at first. I was also there for the final broadcast before switching to FS1.
It was my childhood throughout the 2000s. I started drifting away from it when it felt like they were greenlighting multiple NASCAR talk shows that all felt quite similar at the expense of other racing series and leaning a little too much into reality shows like PINKS and Wrecked that just weren't connecting with me. It didn't help that legitimately amazing auto shows like AutoWeek, Sports Car Revolution, and Fifth Gear were seemingly getting cancelled in favor of these reality shows. That being said, when SPEED got it right, man did they get it right! SPEED Report and Wind Tunnel were my Sunday night ritual. Their F1 coverage was marvelous, and I honestly prefer the Varsha, Matchett, and Hobbs trio to Croft and Brundle. Giving international championships like Supercars, DTM, BTCC, the European Le Mans Series American homes, and covering other championships with respect and enthusiasm like IMSA, Grand-Am, and World of Outlaws also helped, and Lucas Oil on the Edge was always a blast to watch. If the network were managed better and staffed by people who wanted to stay true to the mission of giving every part of the motorsports and transportation worlds equal coverage and representation, I think its demise could have absolutely been avoided. I know we have MAVTV, but very little of its programming is accessible outside live TV and it doesn't have quite the same identity and feel of Speedvision/SPEED. Hopefully someone in the future can pick up the pieces and pick up from where the former SPEED Channel left off with a new motorsports and automotive network.
@@biffisgreat That was the best motor sports show in the US period. Dave covered it all and had such great guest. Always liked when Robin Miller was on to discuss open wheel.
NASCAR on FOX has not been the same since Steve Byrnes died. Also remember how we were told in 2013 “Don’t worry all your favorite NASCAR programming will be untouched once FS1 replaces SPEED!”? Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
Fox from day #1 has not been good for Nascar. Remember when Fox would not show the sponsors ? 1st yr. Fox is behind all the gimmick races. Example ,Busch Clash now at LA. How dumb.
I kind of felt like Spencer was forced to be a character where his normal character-self was enough as it was….otherwise completely agree. Steve had a way of being able to take any show format/duties asked of him and find a way to perfect the role and shine.
Race Hub got canned due to cutting costs (AGAIN) and adding IndyCar as another sports property. They'll say Harvick's podcast will be a viable Hub replacement. It's not and the last Speed Channel show will now be gone. Get your crying 😢 towels out. RIP NASCAR Race Hub
yeah i was wondering if having a fox-hosted podcast had something to do with this. newer, more popular format that probably reaches more people, but doesnt have the inherent variety or production that race hub did
RPM 2 Night was one of many motorsports news highlight shows that used footage and insider analysis to cover all the world's motorsports developments in the '90s and 2000s. I've seen episodes of RPM, TNN Raceday, SPEED's news shows, and another more obscure show called On Pit Road and all of them are wonderful and worthwhile for their own reasons. They approached news coverage with enough variety to where I don't think they felt derivative or like copies of each other. RPM emphasized the most famous, household name series like F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, and NHRA. SPEED covered every professional American series and added coverage of the most high profile international series like WRC and MotoGP. TNN's shows emphasized the domestic championships but offered more coverage of oval and dirt track racing. And On Pit Road very heavily emphasized oval racing as a whole. That variety combined with the backing of a network alone made those shows great packages. I think those shows could have definitely succeeded even in today's digital age if networks were willing to invest in them, prioritize long term appeal over short term gains, and make them as accessible as possible by uploading them on a paid streaming service the day after they air on TV, and then on UA-cam the following week. They can still make good short term gains from appealing to die hard fans that love watching things live and being there in the moment. It would be a win win for everyone.
I'm always annoyed when I see "NFL Today" or whatever NFL morning show is on ESPN while it ignores the NHL being in the middle and back half of the season.
I'd love streaming if I could just pay for the events I want. I resent having to pay 75-100 a month to a service for tons of channels I'll never watch, just to stream fox events.
I'm sad cause I actually look forward to watching RaceHub everyday when I get off work. I'm not saying it's a perfect show but it did a great job of giving Nascar content on a daily basis. I've always enjoyed the back in forth between Adam Alexander, Larry Mac, Jamie McMurray or whoever might join them on the show
NASCAR Race Hub being dead after June 11th just proves how out of touch NASCAR on FOX is with it’s coverage. It’s been awful for a number of years but this takes it to a new level.
I've seen the current Race Hub episodes every now and then and think it's good for the most part. However, I am curious: If someone were to pick up the pieces and try again at making a weekly NASCAR magazine/highlight show, how do you think they could improve? I don't want to sound like I'm arguing with you, but I'd like to hear your ideas as someone relatively new to Race Hub.
This is tragic in that there will be no NASCAR news and highlights show on television. I have enjoyed hearing from insiders and seeing many of the other features and short films.
First, I hope Amazon and TNT grab Jamie McMurray for their broadcasts. Him and Jr would be excellent (and still praying somehow they get Bestwick as well). As far as streaming, I wish someday we get a streaming service for all racing, like a speed channel. Then we can have daily nascar shows again, maybe show practice and qualifying and show other racing as well. Because the way things are going, any nascar coverage we get on tv won’t start until Saturday, which isn’t good. We need to start getting fans excited for race weekend during the week, can’t condense everything into the 2 day weekend
@@ethanweeter2732 Al Michaels called a Winston Cup race from Michigan in 1979. He's also a few years older than Mike Joy... so, I think that ship has sailed.
In my opinion, Jimmy Spencer was really good at his show. It was an engaging show, and he made fun of the drivers which was really funny. He actually made me laugh quite a lot. It was like a comedy and at the same time he got serious. It was just a great show. He was like the Stephen A. Smith of NASCAR. that sucks fox had to cut him and completely get rid of his show especially the speed network that was a vital channel.
And with the potential Indycar on Fox bit, this WOULD NOT BE the 1st time they've been doing live coverage of Indycar... remember Phoenix, Pikes Peak and Dover in 1999? Those were on Fox Sports Net and Fox, respectively, back during the Pep Boys Indy Racing League days.
Sadly, that ship has sailed, as IMO if Fox wanted, they could've put him in the booth the last 2 seasons instead of doing the rotating analyst. However, Larry Mac has a relationship with Turner from the 2007-2014 package, and I can see a Larry Mac/Dale Jr booth being banger..
@@ElFuego35plus now there's reports that Warner Brothers Discovery is teaming up with Disney for a streaming package. So now it's highly likely that some Fox Sports people are also gonna be on TNT since TNT and Fox Sports will be in the same umbrella.
Although the show got cut due to cost cutting, I think also a lot of fans at least fans, I’ve talked to have lost interest in racehub just because it just feels like a bunch of suits standing around a green screen room. They also are too scared to criticize NASCAR. Fans have been enjoying podcast like door bumper clear and Dale JR download because they will actually be honest about topics and discuss things like the charter agreement.
I think he does NASCAR because he genuinely likes doing it. He went away from a year in 2020 and 2021(aside from Daytona) but he came back to the broadcasts.
No NASCAR Race Hub on weekdays after June 11th was the last thing I'd wanted to hear. How will we get to listen to Radioactive now??? Talk about terrible timing for me, as it's scheduled to run its last show on my 23rd birthday. Another reason why FOX should've never resigned for another 7 years.
From what I gather, Radio Active is put together by NASCAR Media Group for Fox. B/C of that, It wouldn't shock me if NASCAR themselves start uploading Radioactive on their channel (even if it's not named Radioactive).
My house just cut our cable. NASCAR is the only reason we still had it and just go to bars and watch the races. Been doing that for a year now and cable ain’t worth it.
NASCAR been on a slow kill of its own self for several years now. Making it harder to find harder to watch where is it even a lot of times. It’s like they don’t care about you,They just care about putting those extra ads in between seven minutes you get to actually watch, a race.It’s gotten pretty douche bag really. I look forward actually for Indy and FS1,,Arca,Trucks,as they still race for glory …they are much better than Sunday where they’re just running around for those green white checker attrition flags ,until the last 25 laps or so and then there’s a race. Just have a 25-50 lap race then… if that’s all they’re gonna race. Because line race ain’t racing.
NASCAR race hub wasn’t even good tbh the studio looked horrible and it was the most boring slow paced show anyway. Hopefully they replace it with something more like that the NFL or the NBA has especially if we can’t to get a younger audience
You maybe on to something... With NASCAR opening that new Production Facility make me wonder if Fox and/or NBC was like "You get your rights increase, but you have to take over the production of the races/studio shows yourself".
Do people really get much out the hub show? I have watched it for years every day it was on. But it is just a lot of fluff, so little real substance or info. Used to be pretty good but not for years.
I find the coverage what ever series,network,pre race, post race and during the race so watered down, they should talk more about mechanical and the physics about the cars and tracks. To me is they runout of stuff to say and just keep repeating the same stuff, I still will watch any race or coverage that I can. I do love your channel!
the Coke 600 on Amazon will be so stupid.... it's NASCAR's crown jewel, and yet it is rumored to be there?? That is stupid, very stupid..... Thank goodness for pirating, but still. The 600 should not be a stupid streaming race
@@gnnascarfan2410 why does a crown jewel race have to be an exclusive stream race only? Crown jewel races should be on big FOX and big NBC. There’s plenty of races that are unfortunately exclusive racing, crown jewel races shouldn’t be one of them because they’re big races, not just random normal races on Sunday’s. Plus pirating exists anyway. But still. Big popular crown jewel NASCAR races like the 600 should not be exclusively on streaming.
honestly, FloRacing, DirtVision, and Racing America are everything wrong with motorsports. They are harmful to their tracks and the services do not make the price worth it.
@@LOLRacing06 I honestly think that it's because of those services that the TV packages of certain series are impossible to access outside live TV. Like the management of ASA Stars, Lucas Oil Late Models, and World of Outlaws among others don't bother uploading the TV highlights of those championships anywhere (do you think they copyright claim anyone on UA-cam who does try to?) because they just assume everyone will pay for those services to watch the full event, when I think there are people out there that specifically want to watch the TV versions of the events. They think live streaming is all that people would subscribe to those services for, but for me personally, live streaming alone isn't enough to plop down money for yet another streaming service. I'd want the TV broadcasts and an archive of such shows from years past, personally. Then there's greed taking over with everyone wanting their own streaming service, frustrating those who liked having everything on one service and then realizing that if they want to see every kind of content they like, they'll have to pay more than they did for cable to subscribe to all the different services out there. Licensing and rights disputes also provide more of a headache with customers who may not opt for a new service at all because they have no confidence the content they like will even be accessible for long. Streaming is a very good thing, but too many companies are ruining it with greed and pride in my opinion. I think it's a bubble that's about to burst, but I hope the market corrects course before it's too late.
If NASCAR would offer 1 all inclusive streaming package, all the races from one source, streaming exactly what was being broadcast on the networks, I would buy it. I'm NOT subscribing to two or three services NOR am I about to get cable just to watch NASCAR in real time. I'll just keep watching later on in the week on UA-cam. And, HEY INDYCAR!!! Start posting your races on UA-cam like NASCAR does! I'll bet you make plenty of dough and I'll finally be able to watch.
Maybe they (or NASCAR) will continue to put it on UA-cam. It’d get a lot of clicks for very little effort. And it’s already being done so it wouldn’t take any changes.
At least the TNN/Spike/Paramount Network born RACEDAY show is not dead yet. But, I'll miss the Speed Center theme on Race Hub. Plus, Radioactive... the greatest post race concept in NASCAR television
Man, I remember watching the pre-race show/race day, the race, NASCAR Victory Lane, and then finally Dave Despain Wind Tunnel. Crazy how far it’s fallen.
It's the last gasp of FS1 to survive. Cable is dying fast. I use Fubo TV to get most of my sports. USA and FS1 is on it. I have Max for TBS and TNT. I'm paying way less and have all the programming I want without Cable. Bringing in Indy Car Isn't going to be enough for FS1 to survive. USA and TNT are in the same boat. They'll all have Nascar on them thinking they'll keep people from cutting the cord. Too late. That's why Warner Brothers Discovery now says they'll basically no matter the cost try and keep the NBA.
If it gets too difficult to FIND broadcasts of races without extra expense the viewers will abandon it. Race Hub had become lack luster and I’m sure share was minimal at best. It wasn’t the program we knew 10 years ago. But then, NASCAR isn’t the governing body we knew. Or is it?
Sounds like Nascar expects the fans to hunt down their broadcasts week to week and buy some additional services to see them. Umm, no thanks. Best of luck. At least the owners got a huge payday for themselves on their way down the drain. Good for them.
Streaming ant here to stay until all these networks get something figured out and don’t sit here and say you pay 5 and 10 dollars a month that’s a lie streaming cost more than cable cause I get everything in my package with cable when I pay 200 a month when you pay 54 for amazon prime and 54 for Apple TV and then Netflix cause shows you want to watch are on different streaming networks it ends up being more than a cable bill and cable will out do streaming until they get something figured out because it’s all about money that’s all this is about and that’s why NASCAR is putting some of there races on Amazon prime because Amazon threw money at them.
The thing I like was Sports and particularly college football and pro football is on Saturday and Sunday I have Dish TV and I can watch games from 11:00 till midnight on both days I'm not paying extra for streaming I'm seeing top 10 teams play I've got a wide variety of those to pick from and I see NASCAR now making it where there's going to be racist that I won't be able to pick up on my dish and I'll be damned if I can afford on disability to stream service to watch some races that Nascar has completely destroyed from the model that it had used to be in attempts to I don't know what other than make money for themselves and not really care about their TV audience and I see a lot of empty stands and I say probably that people just don't have the huge demand or interest in NASCAR anymore it's changed so much and it's been dominated by one team and you have another team occasionally that wins but as a whole you got Hendricks Motorsports that pretty much leads the way in college football you have a lot of variety of teams and the pros you don't seem to have the Total Domination any given team can get can get a win on every any given Saturday or Sunday especially in college because NASCAR refuses to do the things that people want I really don't care if I'll miss those races I'll find out who won and I'll see highlights on UA-cam and that's all I care about they they're eventually going to bite the hand that feeds them by the greed of the broadcast of just three events truck racing Xfinity and the big boys on Sunday stack them up against football in America it's much far bigger event and they offer it so easy for you to watch multiple races even NHRA puts on a great show and as far as I know within NHRA we don't have this Constable s*** fighting between a charter and the rules and the cars needing to be this way and they're apologize and they won't no one can pass and it's boring and now the hundred lap nap has became the 300 lap map so NASCAR you get what you want I can't see people tuning in my son he's the 25 and he could care less about NASCAR never has and most of his friends the younger generation I'm watching NASCAR sister middle 70s I'm an old man 65 and I love it but I don't
ESPN had the best coverage and brought NASCAR to the masses. Since the change to other networks and ridiculous rule changes, watching highlights is all a person needs.... Sure as hell is not worth paying for a bunch of special channels to watch the crap they call nascar racing nowadays.
I find nascar uninteresting it’s boring it doesn’t have the same energy it did back in the days of waltrip , Earnhardt, Rudd , Wallace those guys made it interesting the tv coverage was the best I think with Jerry punch and the others the new cars done it for me C. O. T and the tv coverage it’s all about commercials anymore and stage racing that’s not racing when you stop after 80 laps and then go to stage two that’s not racing 👎🏻 they need to bring back full racing 0 to 500 laps pit while all the other drivers are still going around the track that’s racing
What you are seeing on NASCAR coverage is a symptom of a much bigger problem in all of sports. More leagues taking up eyeball time in all sort of directions from the expansion of the NFL season to MLS and the European soccer leagues making inroads with American viewers. Viewers are starting to get picky and those sports such as baseball and auto racing are being slow to adapt with the times and will get left behind to become small regional interests versus the behemoths they once were.
Former Nascar fan here. I haven't watched 1 second of a single race since the racist Bubba came into the sport and Nascar immediately followed his cries and lies. Never again Nascar.
Oh no. CW is strait up garbage. That’s like C rated television shows with the most bottom of the barrel actors. Interested to see how much worst Nascar commentating gets.
i love tv to watch my stuff over streaming services but i'll be honest i do have amazon prime video and peacock. i can't afford to keep adding more streaming services, adding max i don't won't too
50% of nascar fans are Chevy fans 40% Ford and 10% toyota, nascar has failed to change the templates it makes for each manufacturer for competition Ford hasn't won a race in any series most of the Ford fans don't watch any nascar anymore as the sponsors leave the Ford teams there will be alot more teams folding up.
Iceberg your naive if you think when nascar moves exclusively to streaming like prime and others that they will either do one of two things .. raise the price dramatically for the streaming service or put it behind another pay wall for live sports .. and to all that think there will be less commercials I laugh at you .. prime series now have ads … I’m 46 and one thing I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt money is the only thing that matters period
Maybe you’re gonna get to it maybe you’re not it’s might be a little premature is this why Dale Earnhardt Junior has been talking about going to Amazon and I forget which other one he said to do like 10 to 20 races starting next year is all these changes are gonna happen
I've missed all but a couple races this year, and it has given me the chance to spend more time with my Grandkids. I've missed so many races that I keep up with Nascar on the Nascar App
As a nascar and Indycar fan i hate to see Racehub go i miss the Speed Channel and i do not want Indycar going to Fox i think there perfectly fine being on NBC
Where can one stream the races for free? lol. Sometimes I’m not home and don’t mind listening to the radio broadcasts, but would like to watch it on my phone if I could.
We need a big investor to come in and make a subscription service that is like the old speed channel, multiple types of racing, shows and news all in one for a annual or monthly price i think for North American motorsports it’s essential to have a place for people to watch without tons of commercials and crap.
This is a big dream for me as a motorsports fan. All of the auto, motorcycle, and motorsports related programming that ever aired in the United States; from MAVTV, Motor Trend, SPEED, ESPN, TNN, CBS Sports, etc. all in one place. Maybe even with the original commercials, too. Perhaps the owners could negotiate deals to make the ads on the master recordings generate the same return as one on cable so subscribers don't have to deal with ads loading separately. For example, an old "Like a Rock" Chevy truck ad or Coca Cola Racing Family ad on an old NASCAR broadcast on this service would generate the same return as any current Coca Cola ad in circulation. The ad would be part of the video and not load separately like it does on other websites. I would be in heaven if this happened and would pay for it in a heartbeat.
It's frustrating that we have to suffer through another deal with Fox's shoddy coverage. They used to be the best and then at some point they fell off a cliff.
I won't say this will happen but this really feels like fox is backing away from Nascar to instead pursue Indycar and the UFL. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the last tv deal of Nascar for Fox for awhile and Amazon took over the majority of Fox's portion of the Schedule starting with the deal after this next one.
Yes and since been owned by NextStar (basically a media company owning tv stations) has ACC network games along with Golf. Along with tv original program
well kids, it was called speed channel, and it was, and we didn't even realize it at the time, it was a gift from God
I remember when it started. I was a kid, my dad got a whole tv channel of racing. Now it's all UA-cam except live races.
I started getting into the sport around the time that the Speed channel was beginning to shut down. I had no idea at first. I was also there for the final broadcast before switching to FS1.
It was my childhood throughout the 2000s.
I started drifting away from it when it felt like they were greenlighting multiple NASCAR talk shows that all felt quite similar at the expense of other racing series and leaning a little too much into reality shows like PINKS and Wrecked that just weren't connecting with me. It didn't help that legitimately amazing auto shows like AutoWeek, Sports Car Revolution, and Fifth Gear were seemingly getting cancelled in favor of these reality shows.
That being said, when SPEED got it right, man did they get it right! SPEED Report and Wind Tunnel were my Sunday night ritual. Their F1 coverage was marvelous, and I honestly prefer the Varsha, Matchett, and Hobbs trio to Croft and Brundle. Giving international championships like Supercars, DTM, BTCC, the European Le Mans Series American homes, and covering other championships with respect and enthusiasm like IMSA, Grand-Am, and World of Outlaws also helped, and Lucas Oil on the Edge was always a blast to watch.
If the network were managed better and staffed by people who wanted to stay true to the mission of giving every part of the motorsports and transportation worlds equal coverage and representation, I think its demise could have absolutely been avoided.
I know we have MAVTV, but very little of its programming is accessible outside live TV and it doesn't have quite the same identity and feel of Speedvision/SPEED. Hopefully someone in the future can pick up the pieces and pick up from where the former SPEED Channel left off with a new motorsports and automotive network.
@@kpegc windtunnel was fantastic
@@biffisgreat That was the best motor sports show in the US period.
Dave covered it all and had such great guest. Always liked when Robin Miller was on to discuss open wheel.
NASCAR on FOX has not been the same since Steve Byrnes died.
Also remember how we were told in 2013 “Don’t worry all your favorite NASCAR programming will be untouched once FS1 replaces SPEED!”? Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
SPEED was truly peak for Motorsports fans. Miss it so much
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Can we at least get a 2024 version of Speed channel
@@jordankirby3075 that would be beautiful
Fox from day #1 has not been good for Nascar. Remember when Fox would not show the sponsors ? 1st yr. Fox is behind all the gimmick races. Example ,Busch Clash now at LA. How dumb.
@@dannypowers4995 Can you give NASCAR a chance
Jimmy Spencer and Steve Bynes were what made the show worth watching. I’m not surprised. Everyone watches UA-cam for content now
I kind of felt like Spencer was forced to be a character where his normal character-self was enough as it was….otherwise completely agree. Steve had a way of being able to take any show format/duties asked of him and find a way to perfect the role and shine.
Jimmy Spencer’s crying towel! Remember it? That was awesome!
Race Hub got canned due to cutting costs (AGAIN) and adding IndyCar as another sports property. They'll say Harvick's podcast will be a viable Hub replacement. It's not and the last Speed Channel show will now be gone. Get your crying 😢 towels out. RIP NASCAR Race Hub
yeah i was wondering if having a fox-hosted podcast had something to do with this. newer, more popular format that probably reaches more people, but doesnt have the inherent variety or production that race hub did
They gotta pay Skip his ridiculous salary even tho Racehub drew higher ratings
Skip Bayless ought to be built in a North Korean prisonl
I hope they don't get IndyCar
FOX Entertainment got sued and paid out almost a billion dollars recently, of course they are cutting costs. They fired Tucker Carlson.
Anyone remember RPM 2Night on ESPN2 with John Kernan in the ‘90s? Covered all motor sports every weeknight year round but with a heavy NASCAR tilt
Wow that was golden Era Nascar!! My prime years of watching Nascar, wish I could go back!!
RPM 2 Night was one of many motorsports news highlight shows that used footage and insider analysis to cover all the world's motorsports developments in the '90s and 2000s.
I've seen episodes of RPM, TNN Raceday, SPEED's news shows, and another more obscure show called On Pit Road and all of them are wonderful and worthwhile for their own reasons.
They approached news coverage with enough variety to where I don't think they felt derivative or like copies of each other.
RPM emphasized the most famous, household name series like F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, and NHRA. SPEED covered every professional American series and added coverage of the most high profile international series like WRC and MotoGP. TNN's shows emphasized the domestic championships but offered more coverage of oval and dirt track racing. And On Pit Road very heavily emphasized oval racing as a whole.
That variety combined with the backing of a network alone made those shows great packages.
I think those shows could have definitely succeeded even in today's digital age if networks were willing to invest in them, prioritize long term appeal over short term gains, and make them as accessible as possible by uploading them on a paid streaming service the day after they air on TV, and then on UA-cam the following week. They can still make good short term gains from appealing to die hard fans that love watching things live and being there in the moment.
It would be a win win for everyone.
Its amazing that football can get dozens of hours of coverage everyday and Nascar cant get an hour.
I'm always annoyed when I see "NFL Today" or whatever NFL morning show is on ESPN while it ignores the NHL being in the middle and back half of the season.
And it’s not even the nfl it’s a shitty fucking minor league version
Nascar shouldn't have decided to kill itself then
NASCAR killed the sport. Stupid playoffs and mandatory cautions. It’s been dying for 20 years. Just take a look at the “packed grandstands “.
NASCAR used to be worth watching. Not any more.
I'd love streaming if I could just pay for the events I want. I resent having to pay 75-100 a month to a service for tons of channels I'll never watch, just to stream fox events.
Exactly, other sports have their own dedicated streaming service, like NFL Network, id Nascar did something similar I'd sign up in a heartbeat
You just described cable.
I’ll admit I haven’t watched a full episode of race hub in years. I miss the Jimmy Spencer and Steve Byrnes days! That made the show fun
Dirty Mo Media just got so much more important. They should do a nascar news show every week.
They sort of do with their various shows.
Xfinity and trucks provide some pretty damn good racing!
Aside from a few races, xfinity has been better than cup in my eyes this year.
I'm sad cause I actually look forward to watching RaceHub everyday when I get off work. I'm not saying it's a perfect show but it did a great job of giving Nascar content on a daily basis. I've always enjoyed the back in forth between Adam Alexander, Larry Mac, Jamie McMurray or whoever might join them on the show
NASCAR Race Hub being dead after June 11th just proves how out of touch NASCAR on FOX is with it’s coverage. It’s been awful for a number of years but this takes it to a new level.
I've seen the current Race Hub episodes every now and then and think it's good for the most part.
However, I am curious:
If someone were to pick up the pieces and try again at making a weekly NASCAR magazine/highlight show, how do you think they could improve?
I don't want to sound like I'm arguing with you, but I'd like to hear your ideas as someone relatively new to Race Hub.
This is tragic in that there will be no NASCAR news and highlights show on television. I have enjoyed hearing from insiders and seeing many of the other features and short films.
First, I hope Amazon and TNT grab Jamie McMurray for their broadcasts. Him and Jr would be excellent (and still praying somehow they get Bestwick as well). As far as streaming, I wish someday we get a streaming service for all racing, like a speed channel. Then we can have daily nascar shows again, maybe show practice and qualifying and show other racing as well. Because the way things are going, any nascar coverage we get on tv won’t start until Saturday, which isn’t good. We need to start getting fans excited for race weekend during the week, can’t condense everything into the 2 day weekend
No for Jamie McMurray. We need Cole Pearn as the third person.
Be neat to see Al Michaels try and call NASCAR.
@@ethanweeter2732 Al Michaels called a Winston Cup race from Michigan in 1979. He's also a few years older than Mike Joy... so, I think that ship has sailed.
Not a shock about the Hub…no entertaining personalities and more and more of listening to over explaining by no nothing drivers
In my opinion, Jimmy Spencer was really good at his show. It was an engaging show, and he made fun of the drivers which was really funny. He actually made me laugh quite a lot. It was like a comedy and at the same time he got serious. It was just a great show. He was like the Stephen A. Smith of NASCAR. that sucks fox had to cut him and completely get rid of his show especially the speed network that was a vital channel.
Quality overall is atrocious. If they continue like this for next 7 years, the more we will want to fast forward to Amazon coverage.
And with the potential Indycar on Fox bit, this WOULD NOT BE the 1st time they've been doing live coverage of Indycar... remember Phoenix, Pikes Peak and Dover in 1999? Those were on Fox Sports Net and Fox, respectively, back during the Pep Boys Indy Racing League days.
Yea.......I'm screwed. Everything is going to be streamed. That's great. Wonderful.
I love FOX. I just do. Always have. I love Mike
I hate this generation.
PLEASE GET LARRY MAC IN THE BOOTH AGAIN, FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sadly, that ship has sailed, as IMO if Fox wanted, they could've put him in the booth the last 2 seasons instead of doing the rotating analyst.
However, Larry Mac has a relationship with Turner from the 2007-2014 package, and I can see a Larry Mac/Dale Jr booth being banger..
@@ElFuego35plus now there's reports that Warner Brothers Discovery is teaming up with Disney for a streaming package. So now it's highly likely that some Fox Sports people are also gonna be on TNT since TNT and Fox Sports will be in the same umbrella.
from 2007-2014 Barry Landis (Fox producer) and many other FOX people were behind the scenes for the TNT Summer series
Larry Mac contract might get cancelled after race hub got canceled he either retire or head to TNT or Amazon like Jamie Mac
Not going to happen.
Race Hub had too little content to go on for a whole week. I think if it was Monday/ Wednesday/ Thursday it would have been better.
Although the show got cut due to cost cutting, I think also a lot of fans at least fans, I’ve talked to have lost interest in racehub just because it just feels like a bunch of suits standing around a green screen room. They also are too scared to criticize NASCAR. Fans have been enjoying podcast like door bumper clear and Dale JR download because they will actually be honest about topics and discuss things like the charter agreement.
I fuckin hate Fox. Everything about that company sucks.
Chris Myers is part of the NFL on Fox coverage. He's not going anywhere
I think he does NASCAR because he genuinely likes doing it. He went away from a year in 2020 and 2021(aside from Daytona) but he came back to the broadcasts.
No NASCAR Race Hub on weekdays after June 11th was the last thing I'd wanted to hear. How will we get to listen to Radioactive now??? Talk about terrible timing for me, as it's scheduled to run its last show on my 23rd birthday.
Another reason why FOX should've never resigned for another 7 years.
From what I gather, Radio Active is put together by NASCAR Media Group for Fox.
B/C of that, It wouldn't shock me if NASCAR themselves start uploading Radioactive on their channel (even if it's not named Radioactive).
My house just cut our cable. NASCAR is the only reason we still had it and just go to bars and watch the races. Been doing that for a year now and cable ain’t worth it.
I feel like viewers get cut in half when Fox uses FS1
NASCAR needs to start their own subscription base platform.
Yes they do I'll pay $199 a year for every race and practice and qualifying
Literally idk why they havent. Almost every sport has it.
Nah, there’s free content on UA-cam and even NASCAR Classics’ website.
Plus you can watch races on piracy without paying a single penny
Apparently Warner Brothers Discovery is teaming up with Disney for it's streaming services.
@@stevenrosenthal720and they could dump the entire NASCAR archives series there.
Hopefully they get rid of Michael Waltrip
Same he's annonying.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworldI Agree.
I wish there was a way to stream every race
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NASCAR been on a slow kill of its own self for several years now. Making it harder to find harder to watch where is it even a lot of times. It’s like they don’t care about you,They just care about putting those extra ads in between seven minutes you get to actually watch, a race.It’s gotten pretty douche bag really. I look forward actually for Indy and FS1,,Arca,Trucks,as they still race for glory …they are much better than Sunday where they’re just running around for those green white checker attrition flags ,until the last 25 laps or so and then there’s a race. Just have a 25-50 lap race then… if that’s all they’re gonna race. Because line race ain’t racing.
NASCAR race hub wasn’t even good tbh the studio looked horrible and it was the most boring slow paced show anyway. Hopefully they replace it with something more like that the NFL or the NBA has especially if we can’t to get a younger audience
1 more reason to hate fox
Very simple for me. I won't pay for anything I don't already have just to be able to watch NASCAR.
with some races on prime, I hope Amazon streams it on twitch. get the young whipper snappers a chance to see stock car racing for themselves,
It looks like much of the money spent on production is now going into securing the TV rights.
You maybe on to something...
With NASCAR opening that new Production Facility make me wonder if Fox and/or NBC was like "You get your rights increase, but you have to take over the production of the races/studio shows yourself".
Do people really get much out the hub show? I have watched it for years every day it was on. But it is just a lot of fluff, so little real substance or info. Used to be pretty good but not for years.
What are your opinions on Race Hub being canceled?
Race hub and NASCAR on FOX as a whole started declining exponentially after Steve Byrnes’ death.
It stinks that racehub is getting cancelled
Been a fan since the first Race Hub in 2009 so I’m devastated
@@matthewdauenhauer6026 Now you might have to watch Wwe or something else that’s sports related
I don’t understand the whole point of Fox resigning then
I find the coverage what ever series,network,pre race, post race and during the race so watered down, they should talk more about mechanical and the physics about the cars and tracks. To me is they runout of stuff to say and just keep repeating the same stuff, I still will watch any race or coverage that I can. I do love your channel!
I stopped watching racehub when you and out of the grove got better than them.
Fox sports treats the PBA (bowling) better than they do nascar
I want to state as a Motorsports and NFL fan cable TV is garbage other than live sports.
OK and Family guy, American dad too.
Can someone please tell me how I get the Saudi NASCAR tv feed?? Do you need a VPN for that?
No just watch dd12streams.
Fubo TV 📺 also great service now if they have the turner networks it would be perfect to invest along with prime account I have all ready pay.
get rid of michael waltrup and whiney voice.
Excuse me! The streaming, I don't have to accept it, and I'm not going to. I will leave it. So Nascar will have less fans! 😡😡😡
Watch the AD Sports stream then.
the Coke 600 on Amazon will be so stupid.... it's NASCAR's crown jewel, and yet it is rumored to be there??
That is stupid, very stupid.....
Thank goodness for pirating, but still. The 600 should not be a stupid streaming race
If Amazon doesn’t get any crown jewel races or big races what incentive do they have?
@@gnnascarfan2410 why does a crown jewel race have to be an exclusive stream race only?
Crown jewel races should be on big FOX and big NBC.
There’s plenty of races that are unfortunately exclusive racing, crown jewel races shouldn’t be one of them because they’re big races, not just random normal races on Sunday’s.
Plus pirating exists anyway. But still. Big popular crown jewel NASCAR races like the 600 should not be exclusively on streaming.
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I hate this streaming generation.
@@dcnascarboy0514 I rather have options to decide to watch it on TV or streaming and not forced to go to streaming. Overrated
NASCAR on Fox died with Steve Byrnes.
Bring Ralph back for commentating!
As a sprint car fan, I've always had to dig for media coverage, we've never seen a race live on TV.
honestly, FloRacing, DirtVision, and Racing America are everything wrong with motorsports. They are harmful to their tracks and the services do not make the price worth it.
@@LOLRacing06 I honestly think that it's because of those services that the TV packages of certain series are impossible to access outside live TV.
Like the management of ASA Stars, Lucas Oil Late Models, and World of Outlaws among others don't bother uploading the TV highlights of those championships anywhere (do you think they copyright claim anyone on UA-cam who does try to?) because they just assume everyone will pay for those services to watch the full event, when I think there are people out there that specifically want to watch the TV versions of the events. They think live streaming is all that people would subscribe to those services for, but for me personally, live streaming alone isn't enough to plop down money for yet another streaming service. I'd want the TV broadcasts and an archive of such shows from years past, personally.
Then there's greed taking over with everyone wanting their own streaming service, frustrating those who liked having everything on one service and then realizing that if they want to see every kind of content they like, they'll have to pay more than they did for cable to subscribe to all the different services out there. Licensing and rights disputes also provide more of a headache with customers who may not opt for a new service at all because they have no confidence the content they like will even be accessible for long.
Streaming is a very good thing, but too many companies are ruining it with greed and pride in my opinion. I think it's a bubble that's about to burst, but I hope the market corrects course before it's too late.
Noooo don't get rid of Jamie Little and Jamie Howe. Truck broadcasts has been entertaining and enjoyable this year.
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If NASCAR would offer 1 all inclusive streaming package, all the races from one source, streaming exactly what was being broadcast on the networks, I would buy it. I'm NOT subscribing to two or three services NOR am I about to get cable just to watch NASCAR in real time. I'll just keep watching later on in the week on UA-cam. And, HEY INDYCAR!!! Start posting your races on UA-cam like NASCAR does! I'll bet you make plenty of dough and I'll finally be able to watch.
NASCAR race hub ending in June means no more radioactive: why can’t we have nice things?
Maybe they (or NASCAR) will continue to put it on UA-cam. It’d get a lot of clicks for very little effort. And it’s already being done so it wouldn’t take any changes.
I did not watch Race Hub, but I liked Katelyn and Shannon and Adam.
I miss wind tunnel with Dave
I don't like Shannon Spake I think she's cringy
So basically just turn on PRN and MRN. Free as fawk
Since I've been living under a rock, can someone explain why Jimmy Spencer was let go? I miss the Crying Towel.
If we're changing broadcast analysts for TV, let's replace Bowyer........
What does FOX say?
what does the FOX say 😅
Broadcasting is like Management -- Way Over-rated -- Still like a little personality though !!!
At least the TNN/Spike/Paramount Network born RACEDAY show is not dead yet. But, I'll miss the Speed Center theme on Race Hub. Plus, Radioactive... the greatest post race concept in NASCAR television
NASCAR changes will be comprised of glitz, fake drama, heroes, DEI, and just about everything except the stock car racing we have enjoyed for decades.
Man, I remember watching the pre-race show/race day, the race, NASCAR Victory Lane, and then finally Dave Despain Wind Tunnel. Crazy how far it’s fallen.
I'll miss the hub
It's the last gasp of FS1 to survive. Cable is dying fast. I use Fubo TV to get most of my sports. USA and FS1 is on it. I have Max for TBS and TNT. I'm paying way less and have all the programming I want without Cable. Bringing in Indy Car Isn't going to be enough for FS1 to survive. USA and TNT are in the same boat. They'll all have Nascar on them thinking they'll keep people from cutting the cord. Too late. That's why Warner Brothers Discovery now says they'll basically no matter the cost try and keep the NBA.
i been saying it all this season...nascar is done...the first nail was amazon prime...what a joke ....who wont be here in 2025...be honest
If it gets too difficult to FIND broadcasts of races without extra expense the viewers will abandon it. Race Hub had become lack luster and I’m sure share was minimal at best. It wasn’t the program we knew 10 years ago. But then, NASCAR isn’t the governing body we knew. Or is it?
Sounds like Nascar expects the fans to hunt down their broadcasts week to week and buy some additional services to see them.
Umm, no thanks.
Best of luck.
At least the owners got a huge payday for themselves on their way down the drain.
Good for them.
Streaming ant here to stay until all these networks get something figured out and don’t sit here and say you pay 5 and 10 dollars a month that’s a lie streaming cost more than cable cause I get everything in my package with cable when I pay 200 a month when you pay 54 for amazon prime and 54 for Apple TV and then Netflix cause shows you want to watch are on different streaming networks it ends up being more than a cable bill and cable will out do streaming until they get something figured out because it’s all about money that’s all this is about and that’s why NASCAR is putting some of there races on Amazon prime because Amazon threw money at them.
Streaming prices will keep increasing. They will get your $$$ one way or another. Especially w the announcement that Max, Disney + and Hulu merging.
I’m a new NASCAR fan and I’m trying to figure out how to watch the cup series. What is the best way to watch the cup series?
The thing I like was Sports and particularly college football and pro football is on Saturday and Sunday I have Dish TV and I can watch games from 11:00 till midnight on both days I'm not paying extra for streaming I'm seeing top 10 teams play I've got a wide variety of those to pick from and I see NASCAR now making it where there's going to be racist that I won't be able to pick up on my dish and I'll be damned if I can afford on disability to stream service to watch some races that Nascar has completely destroyed from the model that it had used to be in attempts to I don't know what other than make money for themselves and not really care about their TV audience and I see a lot of empty stands and I say probably that people just don't have the huge demand or interest in NASCAR anymore it's changed so much and it's been dominated by one team and you have another team occasionally that wins but as a whole you got Hendricks Motorsports that pretty much leads the way in college football you have a lot of variety of teams and the pros you don't seem to have the Total Domination any given team can get can get a win on every any given Saturday or Sunday especially in college because NASCAR refuses to do the things that people want I really don't care if I'll miss those races I'll find out who won and I'll see highlights on UA-cam and that's all I care about they they're eventually going to bite the hand that feeds them by the greed of the broadcast of just three events truck racing Xfinity and the big boys on Sunday stack them up against football in America it's much far bigger event and they offer it so easy for you to watch multiple races even NHRA puts on a great show and as far as I know within NHRA we don't have this Constable s*** fighting between a charter and the rules and the cars needing to be this way and they're apologize and they won't no one can pass and it's boring and now the hundred lap nap has became the 300 lap map so NASCAR you get what you want I can't see people tuning in my son he's the 25 and he could care less about NASCAR never has and most of his friends the younger generation I'm watching NASCAR sister middle 70s I'm an old man 65 and I love it but I don't
ESPN had the best coverage and brought NASCAR to the masses. Since the change to other networks and ridiculous rule changes, watching highlights is all a person needs.... Sure as hell is not worth paying for a bunch of special channels to watch the crap they call nascar racing nowadays.
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But yeah, this is wild AF.
I am a coord cutter and watch less than I used to. This will only give me more time in 2025 for other things... Good and bad I guess...
I find nascar uninteresting it’s boring it doesn’t have the same energy it did back in the days of waltrip , Earnhardt, Rudd , Wallace those guys made it interesting the tv coverage was the best I think with Jerry punch and the others the new cars done it for me C. O. T and the tv coverage it’s all about commercials anymore and stage racing that’s not racing when you stop after 80 laps and then go to stage two that’s not racing 👎🏻 they need to bring back full racing 0 to 500 laps pit while all the other drivers are still going around the track that’s racing
What you are seeing on NASCAR coverage is a symptom of a much bigger problem in all of sports. More leagues taking up eyeball time in all sort of directions from the expansion of the NFL season to MLS and the European soccer leagues making inroads with American viewers. Viewers are starting to get picky and those sports such as baseball and auto racing are being slow to adapt with the times and will get left behind to become small regional interests versus the behemoths they once were.
I've watched probably 3 episodes of Race Hub. It wasn't ever for me.
Former Nascar fan here. I haven't watched 1 second of a single race since the racist Bubba came into the sport and Nascar immediately followed his cries and lies.
Never again Nascar.
Oh no. CW is strait up garbage. That’s like C rated television shows with the most bottom of the barrel actors. Interested to see how much worst Nascar commentating gets.
NASCAR needs to step up their UA-cam game then or a new streaming platform becomes we need more streaming platforms don’t have enough of those
i love tv to watch my stuff over streaming services but i'll be honest i do have amazon prime video and peacock. i can't afford to keep adding more streaming services, adding max i don't won't too
50% of nascar fans are Chevy fans 40% Ford and 10% toyota, nascar has failed to change the templates it makes for each manufacturer for competition Ford hasn't won a race in any series most of the Ford fans don't watch any nascar anymore as the sponsors leave the Ford teams there will be alot more teams folding up.
Iceberg your naive if you think when nascar moves exclusively to streaming like prime and others that they will either do one of two things .. raise the price dramatically for the streaming service or put it behind another pay wall for live sports .. and to all that think there will be less commercials I laugh at you .. prime series now have ads … I’m 46 and one thing I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt money is the only thing that matters period
Maybe you’re gonna get to it maybe you’re not it’s might be a little premature is this why Dale Earnhardt Junior has been talking about going to Amazon and I forget which other one he said to do like 10 to 20 races starting next year is all these changes are gonna happen
The cartoon characters on NASCAR on FOX really dumb down and devalue the on track product.
I've missed all but a couple races this year, and it has given me the chance to spend more time with my Grandkids.
I've missed so many races that I keep up with Nascar on the Nascar App
Iceberg is awesome. How does he not have over 100k subs! Hit the like and subscribe! Keep
It up!
As a nascar and Indycar fan i hate to see Racehub go i miss the Speed Channel and i do not want Indycar going to Fox i think there perfectly fine being on NBC
UFL has to be a huge financial loss. The attendance is lower than high school games and just an assumption, but l doubt they get good viewership.
I’m 75 and the only reason I have UA-cam TV is for NASCAR.
Where can one stream the races for free? lol. Sometimes I’m not home and don’t mind listening to the radio broadcasts, but would like to watch it on my phone if I could.
We need a big investor to come in and make a subscription service that is like the old speed channel, multiple types of racing, shows and news all in one for a annual or monthly price i think for North American motorsports it’s essential to have a place for people to watch without tons of commercials and crap.
This is a big dream for me as a motorsports fan.
All of the auto, motorcycle, and motorsports related programming that ever aired in the United States; from MAVTV, Motor Trend, SPEED, ESPN, TNN, CBS Sports, etc. all in one place. Maybe even with the original commercials, too.
Perhaps the owners could negotiate deals to make the ads on the master recordings generate the same return as one on cable so subscribers don't have to deal with ads loading separately. For example, an old "Like a Rock" Chevy truck ad or Coca Cola Racing Family ad on an old NASCAR broadcast on this service would generate the same return as any current Coca Cola ad in circulation. The ad would be part of the video and not load separately like it does on other websites.
I would be in heaven if this happened and would pay for it in a heartbeat.
It's frustrating that we have to suffer through another deal with Fox's shoddy coverage. They used to be the best and then at some point they fell off a cliff.
Finally someone just comes out and says that the Saudi stream is the preferred way to watch Nascar 😂
Not getting streaming. Harvick retired. Don’t really care anymore.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the green screen studio was stupid.
I won't say this will happen but this really feels like fox is backing away from Nascar to instead pursue Indycar and the UFL. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the last tv deal of Nascar for Fox for awhile and Amazon took over the majority of Fox's portion of the Schedule starting with the deal after this next one.
Nope it won't be since apparently Warner Brothers Discovery is teaming up with Disney this summer which means NASCAR won't be going anywhere.
I don’t have cable I hook up an Antenna for fox races or watch on UA-cam after the race aired
Nascar moving away from networks will cost them fans.
Wait, the CW still exists?
Yes and since been owned by NextStar (basically a media company owning tv stations) has ACC network games along with Golf. Along with tv original program
Yea it's starting to make a surprising resurgence
Don't forget Paramount and Warner still has a minority stakes in the CW.
@@stephenholloway6893Apparently Warner Brothers Discovery is teaming up with Disney though this summer. That changes things up a bit.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworldThat's for a streaming service.