Garand Thumb showcased the iceplates a couple years back, he seemed really impressed with the design back then and it looks like they've really improved it over the version he used. Kinda a longshot considering how the DoD operates but hopefully we'll see them as standard issue gear in the future; it's a really good idea and deserves all the exposure they can get.
Thank you! We listen to all of our end-users and hear the calls/cries of Joe and Jane to get our tech into the DoD pipe. We are chipping away at them, but we've run into lots of resistance from the middle management types who don't think Joe and Jane need our tech. We had a retired O-6 (who is now a DoD civilian) on the Medical/Training side of things for the Army (we are omitting his name intentionally) tell us: "Heat casualties are not a problem for the Army or really the entire U.S. Military. We have no need for your technology."
I was impressed that the rep actually knew his product. Too many Shot Show vids with reps that can't answer basic questions. I'm really loving the concept of this. Another usage is Joe's could use those during a change of command to stay cool in the deep south when all the commanders want to tell you their life story😂
@@tacpunk7996 Nice pull. More background from his interview on NPR's "How I Built This": www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/blog-iceage/qore-perfomance-featured-on-nprs-popular-podcast-how-i-built-this-with-guy-raz?_pos=1&_sid=a7c52fc18&_ss=r
This is a great design. Efficient and effective. Not only in the desert but in a hot vehicle. I was a heat casualty at NTC driving a 1068 around the mohave. That hatch is HORRIBLE.. the engine is at your right hidden by one thin ass panel. I got COOKED. If I had these... hell I could have kept a ton extra in a freezer ON BOARD and swapped out when needed. I'm getting a dozen when they are available. The workers vest is awesome too. Most of these guys are outside in direct sunlight... think of all the lives they'll save and injuries they'll prevent from this simple yet INCREDIBLE design. WELL DONE! Thanks for the show Carl.
The kids today forget that in many wars attrition was the main killer. US Civil War being an easy example of two men dying from disease and elements for every man killed from combat. Better kit and medicine helped Europe to conquer the jungles and distant lands of the globe more than the rifle did, compare WW2 to Vietnam to see the kinds or progress that were made years ago to save lives of men in the field in terms of things like malaria. It ain't all shiny new toys and weapons components that matter. Some guy was bit in Afghanistan and didn't get a rabies shot, came home to become a casualty because he didn't take care of his injury. You read about some of these careless casualties here and there, and it is good to see improvements still being made towards safety and well being. Glad you found this product, and thanks for making these.
True! We have a number of IceVest HiVis Safety Vests in service with FBOs and at hot weather airports with two major airlines. Here is a link to our Aviation video with more details: ua-cam.com/video/YBgO51OFUos/v-deo.html
Frankie Bruan Prop blast no problem. Stand under a couple of Chinooks and get some softball size stones in back. Ambient and latent heat on tarmac what is rough. Get orders to be on line at 06:00. With delays and other military stuff you may still be there 18:00 waiting. Food, casualties, meds, etc take precedence and you can get bumped back. Anything that can help alleviate is worth hearing out.
Karl, you mention “heat” issues. Man, I can vouch for that crap. You NEVER recover...certainly NOT fully. I had a BACK injury while we lived in Montana, back in ‘07. Dealt with it for the remainder of our time there, until FAMILY ‘told’ us to “get back to Texas”. I thought it was the RIGHT move, literally. We sold the log home of our dreams we’d built in 2000, moved back to Central Texas and almost immediately had heat ‘exhaustion’. Happened 3 years IN A ROW! Obviously in the middle of summer; I never could get my body to REadjust to the heat down here. That saying, “IF it ever happens, it’ll get ‘easier’, or worse EACH time. No kidding, absolute truth. I’ve always got to watch myself whenever summer comes around, which, we ALL know..summer’s always here in Texas. Man I MISS Montana...
I'm a construction worker and I do HVAC work on the side from time to time. This would be amazing in an attic. For instance, my coworker and I had a thermometer in one of the attics we worked in and it was 135°f in may in northern Mississippi. I would love to have one of these.
Yes, IceVest HiVis is in use with a number of commercial customers who work in confined spaces. Email us at Info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com and we'll answer any additional questions you have. instagram.com/p/BV-bq6clgpT/?igshid=65srk3fjktb9
I work in a hot dusty environment in a tyvek suit all day, I've been trying to think of a way to cool the inside of my suit and this is perfect, I'm also a 2A guy so this is double duty and investment wise. Along with that this will work in all my outdoor activities, hunting and fishing in all seasons, ATV and snowmobiling, hiking and kayaking. Truely multi-purpose and cost justifiable. Great find Karl! Thank you for this and your service 🇺🇸
Great application and thanks for your 2A support! Here is an article from our IceAge Insights Blog authored by one of our customers about using IcePlate to stay cool in a CBRNE/HAZMAT environment: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/staying-cool-in-the-suit-preventing-heat-incidents-in-the-cbrne-hazmat-environment?_pos=1&_sid=ee4de5ab2&_ss=r Let us know if you have any additional questions!
Great idea. I have seen a similar product in the past but no where near as good since it used blue ice. It was a flexible vest which you froze and was used for a medical condition where the patient was unable to regulate their own body heat. Back then I thought it would be a great idea to place under a plate carrier. Of course you can not drink blue ice and it would be added weight since you would have still needed to take separate water.
22 years as a 91/18 series medic, I can say that environmental injuries, hot or cold, was without a doubt the single most common life threatening injuries I have ever treated. yea you get one, heat stroke or hypothermia, not only do you never fully recover, but it is also cumulative. in other words if you get either or again, it will be worse and more likely to be fatal. that is why they are career ending in the military. so yea I'm right there with you Karl, where were these guys 20 + years ago? I guess the one question I have Karl, is where do you put your ballistic plates? putting ballistic plates over top would seem to be the right way or are those plates stand alone ballistic protection as well? if so what level?
@@TacticalRifleman thanks Karl, I looked them up with the web address you listed in the description. but thanks for answering just the same. great vid.
Justin must be one of the better spokespersons based on the SHOT show coverage I've seen to date. Having a smart product that he believes in probably helps a lot. Good job on the sound quality for this video too. Most other videos have absolute crap sound. Happy hunting for the other two products!
They should make a super insulated iceplate case to put in your 3 day pack so you can take a few extra cold plates out with you, the extended cooling effect over the day swapping out hot iceplates with fresh chilled ones would make up for the extra weight you have to carry.
The Fremen are VERY interested in this, expect an order from a Mr. Paul Muad'Dib Atreides. Bad jokes aside, this looks fantastic. For the professionals this looks a Godsend. I worked 6 years at a Fed Ex Ground warehouse in Central California, in the summer you would die from the heat, and this would have been great to have, and should be used already to keep people cool in the heat. Great product. Thanks Qore.
I’m glad you found them to share the product with more people! I picked one up for civilian use in my backpack a couple weeks ago. -So far it’s mostly perfect for my uses, but since I only have one I haven’t been able to put it through some of the physical training challenges I’d like to. I have noticed that the ice plate will remain deformed inward if there is no air let back in after suction, am not sure but could imagine it becoming more permanent if allowed to be left that way. Also, I electrical taped a section of the bite valve because somehow I’d pulled it free from the tube. Other than that, it’s been great, and actually adds comfort to my backpack while adding some weight for training and the obvious hydration.
Thanks for the support! The inward deformation is normal and will have no impact on performance or durability. Reversing it is easy if you'd like: just blow air into it when storing. Hope that helps and let us know if you have any additional questions.
Qore Performance That is what I’ve been doing, thanks. I’ll let you know any further information when I begin testing in parkour applications such as break falls and rolls✌🏽
He should! He is the Co-Founder and CEO :) More on the backstory here: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/blog-iceage/qore-perfomance-featured-on-nprs-popular-podcast-how-i-built-this-with-guy-raz?_pos=1&_sid=a484eec68&_ss=r
i wasnt able to make it to shot but what i saw from other videos nothing got me excited and then ur video came on my yt timeline and i couldnt be more happier awesome product; keeping the body cool will also prevent dehydration.
You'll have to do a follow up when you get some time with yours. I saw this a year or two ago when they just had the "frost" color and they were flat so they held the plate carrier away from your body. I'm glad they came out with a curved unit in a more natural color. I always thought it was a great idea but I feel obligated to get them now.
I went through infantry basic, AIT and Jump school at Benning in June, July and August of 91, and it was definitely Africa hot. I also worked in Phoenix at a horse ranch during the summer months. That was oven hot. I agree with Karl. These would have been nice then. Concerning the FLEX at 13:15, I assume it works by conducting hot or cold to the plate as it doesn't directly touch the body? That's the only way I can see that part of the system working.
Benning is hot AF. I did Basic @ Ft. Knox in July-August 2008 and that was hot enough but Benning is definitely hotter. I was there March-late May 2011 & it was 70's-80's+ every day
@@QorePerformanceUSA Qore Performance, I am retired from the paper industry this video is being forwarded to every one I know that works in mill maintenance. Without even knowing the price I am confident that ROI is one use.
@@ramblinman5350 Thank you so much! Your instincts are right on sir. Our QSR (Quick Serve Restaurant) customers usually make their money back in 3-4 months in temperate climates and as quickly as 1-2 weeks in hot climates like Arizona. Not bad CAPEX ROI!
I just pre ordered the IcePlate Curved with the IMS sleeve in black. I can’t wait to get it. I’m no longer in the Marine Corps but I still want to remain lean, mean and green. This is going to be great when I do my weekly (5.11 Tactec)plate carrier PT runs here in Mississippi. Funny that he mentioned Fort Bragg. I did an obstacle course race there in 2018. It was so fucking hot that the ground felt like lava.
Didn’t mean for that to maybe sound like I was talking shit. Lol I should have added how awesome they actually are. Mine are the old kinda clear ones, so definitely need to get these.. Also had seen a video on their carrier the other day and was wondering. But hell I trust your judgement so looks like that’s coming also.. Been watching TR for about 3ish years now, & need to get down your way for a class. Only about 5hrs out.
Thanks! Here is some additional info about PPE applications: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/staying-cool-in-the-suit-preventing-heat-incidents-in-the-cbrne-hazmat-environment?_pos=1&_sid=046524a1a&_ss=r Let us know if we can provide any additional assistance. #StayFrosty
@@QorePerformanceUSA You can contact me at DJBarber@MarathonPetroleum.com. I'm the HESS Manager for our site and I've directed my safety supervisor to order a couple of the units for trial under Level A and B suits in our Alkylation. I think there are other applications they may work well in also especially in hot humid climates.
Outstanding! Here is more info for PPE applications: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/staying-cool-in-the-suit-preventing-heat-incidents-in-the-cbrne-hazmat-environment?_pos=1&_sid=ee4de5ab2&_ss=r Safety Applications: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/industrial-insights/7-ways-to-keep-drive-thru-workers-safe-and-cool-this-summer
We have had a number of requests for this. Please contact us at Info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com if we can be of further assistance and/or link you up with our other MIL/LE customers requesting this application.
I have access to a military/LE working dog school, that would be happy to test with you. Also, the 5th Special Forces Group Working Dog program is right near by and we could visit there also. They have been doing non-stop combat ops in middle east and Africa for 15 years.
The cooling study doesn't surprise me. During kickboxing fights our coaches would either put ice on our body between rounds or in case ice was unavailable you get sprayed with water and cooled by a spinning towel.
Those 3 yrs. of 82nd, 6 of Bricklaying, 3 of Passenger Elevator Constructing, & 23 as a Tx-DOT Inspector of New Construction of Highway & Bridges, would well have welcomed such a stupendous temperature regulating device. Obligements for bringing us all them sure wished we should'a had's T.R. -11b4p 1/504
@@TacticalRifleman Might suggest to Jason that hot ice may lengthen the effectiveness in cooling time & lessen the weight decrements factor; as opposed to water. Less weight translates to more ammo & crucial equipment. A 2 bird with a one stone kill, would translate into a non heat casualty successful mission - along with enough hot ice leftover for cooling off a team's worth of # Juan Margaritas... 3rd Bird kill would be that Arm Chair Nay-sayin little bas-tird Just Wayne.
This is highly important. I've seen more guys go down to heat then to battle. Most of the time we lost them in Lousiana before we even got to the Desert lol. Lousiana in summertime still is the hottest place on earth to me. It's not the actual temperature that gets you, it's the crazy humidity with the heat. Iraq can hit 130 no problem, but theres hardly any humidity so it doesnt feel as bad
I’m serious, thank you Karl. I’m a mailman here in Arizona. Our postal vehicles do not have air-conditioning in them and we are not allowed to drive with the doors open. If we are caught driving with the doors open. We get the we’re going to fire you speech. I am definitely getting one of those. Is there a promo code for you so you get credit? Last year we had a carrier die in California from heat stroke. The attitude the post office was she had heat stroke before. So another words it was her fault.
Reaper5.56 Xx I appreciate you saying something. The city union has gone after them multiple times but they always lose. I think it’s the safety procedures the post office claims that allows them to get around OSHA standards. That also goes for the department of labor.
That is pretty bad ass. Like Karl said, Where was that when I was running around in hot sandy places. Going to get some anyway for hiking in the summer. Any ideas for low-vis carriers that would work well with these and not freak out people on the trail?
Our all-new IcePlate Carrier Exoskeleton (ICE) is currently available in Coyote, but we'll be dropping black very soon for a lower-vis option: www.qoreperformance.com/products/ice
Yes, we've looked at soft bladders, but we intentionally went hard cell for a few reasons, namely strength and shape consistency when freezing. To get a soft bladder to freeze in the shape of a Medium ESAPI plate consistently (to make it easy to wear with armor), a mold would be required which would add complexity and cost to the user experience. Our all-new IcePlate Curve has an integrated Q-Hex Baffle (patent pending): www.qoreperformance.com/?view=iceplatecurve Hope this helps, but please let us know if you have any additional questions!
I think this is a game changer on many levels! One of the best inventions to come out in a long time. But I have a question; when a warrior gets hit in the body armor the energy is dramatic and can break bones but at least they won’t leak. But the energy that hits the plate then adds a “hydro shock” effect because of the energy from the bullet causing the water in the container to add additional energy. Does that increase the potential damage to the user? Has this been measured and eliminated?
The threat from hydro shock wave isn’t from bullets hitting. Rather, it is from the over-pressure shock wave of a near explosive blast. This shockwave actually speeds up when it hits the fluid of the body. Fortunately, these waves slow down very quickly. A block of C4 ( with no shrapnel) would kill you at 4 feet, but not at 15 feet. You still get your bell rung, but it is the shrapnel that kills at distance. Also, most near blasts are often low... think stepping on mine or grenade thrown at feet, this shock wave is mostly missing the plate
Thanks Karl that explains a lot. I plan on buying several sets of these because I’ve see the benefits for cooling down or warming up in the back country. The question was geared for warriors and how it could take a round. Thanks for showing us one of the new things at SHOT SHOW! Take care brother
@@jamesswain100 Thanks for the great question! Water is actually the best possible medium for dealing with the incredible amount of energy that comes from an impacting round. IcePlate is able to disperse most of this energy laterally, reducing BFD tremendously. Here are the testing videos we shot: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/iceplate-ballistic-testing-videos-how-to-eliminate-backface-deformation-behind-soft-body-armor?_pos=1&_sid=722bf7292&_ss=r Let us know if you have any other questions. #StayFrosty
So simple and basic yet no one else tried to create this system to the dimensions, shape, and size of this.... For 10 summers while working on commercial aircrafts in temps over 110 degrees plus 65 to 70% humidity this idea would of been perfect!
Pretty sure they don't kick you out of the army entirely if you get a heat injury during any kind of training. I had a friend who went through RASP at Fort Benning, and he said that people who would have heat injuries weren't kicked out of the course but they were recycled or sometimes sent home till they healed and were allowed to try again if their recovery took too long. As long as they didn't voluntarily give up, they were able to put in another Ranger selection packet and go back to try RASP again. If you voluntarily gave up you burned that bridge to ranger battalion forever. The army knows full and well that it's awfully hard to prevent a heat injury when you're running 8-9 miles in 102 degree heat with 90% humidity after quickly fireman carrying a 220lb soldier up and down cardiac hill. I didn't go through this process myself, but from what he told me it seems like heat injuries are preventable to a certain degree, but if it's almost 100% humidity and hotter than hell you're going to have a hard time not passing out from that heat. I mean, Benning has a damn heat injury center to study and prevent heat injuries because they were seeing them so often and it was costing them millions. Now, if you had these plates in a carrier during those runs or training you might not have as many heat injuries and you might help soldiers become stronger and run for longer. This could be very beneficial to the army or any service branch because it would severely reduce costs associated with time lost recovering from a heat injury, and from training having to be repeated if you get recycled or cycled out to go home and recover.
My Camelbacks had conductive cooling... Every time I would get into a bird or HUMVEE that thing would pop and I would look like I pissed myself. #UNEXPECTEDBENEFITS #FUKMYLIF
We used to drop cooling bandanas and cooling helmet liners on water, let them saturate and then freeze them. We tried that with the body armor, but it got too awkward.
Awesome! Let us know if we can answer any questions for you. FYSA: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/the-qore-performance-military-law-enforcement-and-fire-ems-program-what-is-it-and-who-qualifies
You can check out what customers have to say about wearing IcePlate here: www.qoreperformance.com/collections/iceplate-1 We have over 120 reviews for IcePlate and IcePlate Curve. Hopefully that helps, but please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any additional questions!
@@gabrielsimmons3736 IcePlate Curve and IcePlate Classic both work for front and/or rear applications. IcePlate Curve is better for plate carrier/armor/vest setups and IcePlate Classic is best for Travel/EDC Backpacks. Hope that helps and let us know if you have any additional questions. #StayFrosty
Speaking of conductive cooling. I wonder if you could use excess body heat as a way to charge up batteries you’re using for coms, nvgs, and optics. Doesn’t have to fully do it. Just has to prolong it I guess as long as it’s a really good heat sink.
We've studied Kinetic Energy Recovery extensively and there just isn't enough power there to do anything meaningful. It may not sound like much, but the 70 watts of cooling power stored in every IcePlate Curve is incredibly powerful. #StayFrosty
I thought the reason for not protecting the pelvic girdle was bc it's a weight/performance issue. Great and informative vid as usually...the reason I stick around.
I don't like hot weather so it's sound an excellent idea. Btw need to know the material used before I drink the water (some plastics can contaminate, usually slightly, the water).
We showed the prototype at SHOT 2019, but we didn't launch IcePlate Curve until August 2019. We first debuted the prototype ICE (IcePlate Carrier Exoskeleton) at SOFIC in May 2019, but it went live last night: www.qoreperformance.com/products/ice
Karl Interesting, though I am not sure the add on carrier would cool much as it molles on top of the exterior of the plate carrier. So the armor is between you and the ice plate then....hmmmm. The normal way is against your body with the ballistic plate on top,(outside), concern then is blunt force of a ice plate behind armor??????Getting hit in armor is bad enough, but I would like to see some tests shooting this stackup with ballistic clay.
As those water plates get drank they will make noise just like a canteen which is what they are. Your redesign needs to be more like a bladder to solve the noise issue and it needs to include a gasmask attachment so we can drink when we have it on.
The gas mask attachment can be added by any Joe, as the tube is a standard size. However, having it standard would just add unneeded cost to everyone else that doesn’t need the gas mask feature. As for bladders, I disagree with you there; I have had too many camelbacks pop over the years. As thin as the plate is, it shouldn’t make the “Bell” sound that the sloshing canteen makes
Tactical Rifleman good points. I never had a camelbak leak on me and I played hard in my day but I have heard of it. The NBC/chemical camelbak are made of much tougher stuff.
Yep! More details: www.qoreperformance.com/?view=iceplatecurve ua-cam.com/video/QVTbGiqsOPU/v-deo.html&lc=z23jsprbwsykxnqkcacdp432wg0oltmuzlpttrr0e35w03c010c
50 Stitches Steel the Ice plate comes with ties that allow you to rig it up attached to your rear plate bag so its between your back and the plate carrier
50 Stitches Steel yeah that bag is another option, and mounts it on the outside. Garand Thumb talks about the Ice Plate in more detail for mounting in his video on hydration solutions if interested
You can see our full array of testing videos here: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/iceplate-ballistic-testing-videos-how-to-eliminate-backface-deformation-behind-soft-body-armor?_pos=1&_sid=93493cf9d&_ss=r
Willie Austin, you might be able to if it was an extra-large carrier with standard plates, so the edges had room to flex out. (Qore could answer better.)
Yes, just depends on your specific carrier/armor combo. Here is an article we wrote on the subject last year, but full disclosure: we need to update it for IcePlate Curve - just haven't had time, but we'll get to it: www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/plate-carrier-compatibility-does-iceplate-work-with-my-plate-carrier?_pos=1&_sid=803b67c37&_ss=r
Sorry for the delayed reply. Answers to your questions below. If by "hanger" you mean our IceShield Plus hand warmer, you can find that here: www.qoreperformance.com/collections/iceshield-1/products/iceshield-hand-warmer Armor plate is by Armor Express. Details on the product page. Let us know if you have any other questions: info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com
Tactical Rifleman ah ok, simple enough and makes perfect sense. I love your channel, the only thing I like about Friday’s is that you guys drop a video!!! 🙃💯🇺🇸
Makes me wonder, with a bit more engineering, I would think some ballistics capabilities could be worked into the system? Ice and water too, assuming they are full, could work to dissipate the BF trauma energy. I look forward to the future with this. Mix with drinking alcohol lowering that freeze point and a ready made party in your pants so to speak. I mean your vest. lol
Savage brain you got there! www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/iceplate-ballistic-testing-videos-how-to-eliminate-backface-deformation-behind-soft-body-armor?_pos=1&_sid=35d979d8a&_ss=r
I have a question. A while back you were talking about how knock offs of EO Tech and other sites had a one-way transmitter in them. these transmitters would give away the location of our guys. Do you think a frequency blocker like a cell phone jammer could block this?
This does look awesome. I just have two main questions. How bad is the sloshing around noise once you start drinking? I know if you're trying to be all sneaky you need to walk more slowly anyway, I just hate how half empty canteens make that noise. And secondly, after that initial 2 hours, what then? Does it keep you warmer? Do you take the ice plates out after drinking it all? Not knocking the product. I reckon it's a great idea. The roadwork crews here in Australia will be a huge market for you guys with the hi Vis stuff. And firefighters too.
@@TacticalRifleman that's awesome to know. Thanks. I'm 100% sold on it now. Better start saving. Even if all it's really good for is that first few hours, I regularly hunt on foot when it's 100 degrees out in that last 2-3 hours of daylight. This thing should be awesome. Hopefully they are easy to get in Australia. The market here should be big enough to make it worth their while. At the least, it gives us an excuse to dress up in a chest rig (because our overlords prohibit body armour for the serfs).
@@bushcraftingmuslim We ship to Australia every week, easy day. Our website will give you an automatic quote and we always refund any shipping excess if we are able to save you money on the backend. In terms of a distributor, we don't have one yet, but let your favorite distributor know you want them to carry our line. It is always more powerful coming from the customer vs. if we reach out to them. Hope this helps but hit us up if you have any questions: Info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com. #StayFrosty
Garand Thumb showcased the iceplates a couple years back, he seemed really impressed with the design back then and it looks like they've really improved it over the version he used. Kinda a longshot considering how the DoD operates but hopefully we'll see them as standard issue gear in the future; it's a really good idea and deserves all the exposure they can get.
Thank you! We listen to all of our end-users and hear the calls/cries of Joe and Jane to get our tech into the DoD pipe. We are chipping away at them, but we've run into lots of resistance from the middle management types who don't think Joe and Jane need our tech. We had a retired O-6 (who is now a DoD civilian) on the Medical/Training side of things for the Army (we are omitting his name intentionally) tell us: "Heat casualties are not a problem for the Army or really the entire U.S. Military. We have no need for your technology."
Ha! Tell that to everyone I’ve had to stick with a thermometer (up their ass). I swear the officers care about us less and less.
I was impressed that the rep actually knew his product. Too many Shot Show vids with reps that can't answer basic questions. I'm really loving the concept of this. Another usage is Joe's could use those during a change of command to stay cool in the deep south when all the commanders want to tell you their life story😂
Solid lol - new application ideas everyday!
Hadn’t thought of that one. Brilliant!!!
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I’m pretty sure he’s one of the owner/designers.
@@tacpunk7996 Nice pull. More background from his interview on NPR's "How I Built This":
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/blog-iceage/qore-perfomance-featured-on-nprs-popular-podcast-how-i-built-this-with-guy-raz?_pos=1&_sid=a7c52fc18&_ss=r
This is a great design. Efficient and effective. Not only in the desert but in a hot vehicle. I was a heat casualty at NTC driving a 1068 around the mohave. That hatch is HORRIBLE.. the engine is at your right hidden by one thin ass panel. I got COOKED. If I had these... hell I could have kept a ton extra in a freezer ON BOARD and swapped out when needed. I'm getting a dozen when they are available. The workers vest is awesome too. Most of these guys are outside in direct sunlight... think of all the lives they'll save and injuries they'll prevent from this simple yet INCREDIBLE design. WELL DONE! Thanks for the show Carl.
Thanks for watching. TR
1,000,000 man hours worked with IcePlate without a single minute lost to a heat injury! Thanks for your support! #StayFrosty
The kids today forget that in many wars attrition was the main killer. US Civil War being an easy example of two men dying from disease and elements for every man killed from combat. Better kit and medicine helped Europe to conquer the jungles and distant lands of the globe more than the rifle did, compare WW2 to Vietnam to see the kinds or progress that were made years ago to save lives of men in the field in terms of things like malaria. It ain't all shiny new toys and weapons components that matter.
Some guy was bit in Afghanistan and didn't get a rabies shot, came home to become a casualty because he didn't take care of his injury. You read about some of these careless casualties here and there, and it is good to see improvements still being made towards safety and well being. Glad you found this product, and thanks for making these.
I'd love this for the flight line. Gets crazy hot around those jets in the desert summer
Amen especially at the Deid
True! We have a number of IceVest HiVis Safety Vests in service with FBOs and at hot weather airports with two major airlines. Here is a link to our Aviation video with more details:
ua-cam.com/video/YBgO51OFUos/v-deo.html
Amen
God Bless you guys, had to deal with C-130 prop blast in Iraq but didn't have to work near jets. 1N0
Frankie Bruan
Prop blast no problem. Stand under a couple of Chinooks and get some softball size stones in back. Ambient and latent heat on tarmac what is rough. Get orders to be on line at 06:00. With delays and other military stuff you may still be there 18:00 waiting. Food, casualties, meds, etc take precedence and you can get bumped back. Anything that can help alleviate is worth hearing out.
Karl, you mention “heat” issues. Man, I can vouch for that crap. You NEVER recover...certainly NOT fully. I had a BACK injury while we lived in Montana, back in ‘07. Dealt with it for the remainder of our time there, until FAMILY ‘told’ us to “get back to Texas”. I thought it was the RIGHT move, literally. We sold the log home of our dreams we’d built in 2000, moved back to Central Texas and almost immediately had heat ‘exhaustion’. Happened 3 years IN A ROW! Obviously in the middle of summer; I never could get my body to REadjust to the heat down here. That saying, “IF it ever happens, it’ll get ‘easier’, or worse EACH time. No kidding, absolute truth. I’ve always got to watch myself whenever summer comes around, which, we ALL know..summer’s always here in Texas. Man I MISS Montana...
Mark,
Sorry to hear that. Hope you are dealing better now. Drink water Ranger... That's what they always told me. TR
Been using Iceplates for a couple years now. Super happy to see more exposure of Qore Performance. Thanks for this.
Thanks for your support!
I'm a construction worker and I do HVAC work on the side from time to time. This would be amazing in an attic. For instance, my coworker and I had a thermometer in one of the attics we worked in and it was 135°f in may in northern Mississippi. I would love to have one of these.
For Sure!!! Attic work suck in the summer. I feel your pain. Thanks for watching, TR
Yes, IceVest HiVis is in use with a number of commercial customers who work in confined spaces. Email us at Info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com and we'll answer any additional questions you have.
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Great video, thanks for bringing this great tech to us.
Thanks for watching, TR
I work in a hot dusty environment in a tyvek suit all day, I've been trying to think of a way to cool the inside of my suit and this is perfect, I'm also a 2A guy so this is double duty and investment wise. Along with that this will work in all my outdoor activities, hunting and fishing in all seasons, ATV and snowmobiling, hiking and kayaking. Truely multi-purpose and cost justifiable. Great find Karl! Thank you for this and your service 🇺🇸
Great application and thanks for your 2A support! Here is an article from our IceAge Insights Blog authored by one of our customers about using IcePlate to stay cool in a CBRNE/HAZMAT environment:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/staying-cool-in-the-suit-preventing-heat-incidents-in-the-cbrne-hazmat-environment?_pos=1&_sid=ee4de5ab2&_ss=r
Let us know if you have any additional questions!
Thanks for watching, TR
You can tell it’s a good product when the guy is passionate about it and knows everything about it. Love it
Great idea. I have seen a similar product in the past but no where near as good since it used blue ice. It was a flexible vest which you froze and was used for a medical condition where the patient was unable to regulate their own body heat. Back then I thought it would be a great idea to place under a plate carrier. Of course you can not drink blue ice and it would be added weight since you would have still needed to take separate water.
Nailed it.
Absolutely correct...finally something new and deserves attention.
Thank you!
22 years as a 91/18 series medic, I can say that environmental injuries, hot or cold, was without a doubt the single most common life threatening injuries I have ever treated. yea you get one, heat stroke or hypothermia, not only do you never fully recover, but it is also cumulative. in other words if you get either or again, it will be worse and more likely to be fatal. that is why they are career ending in the military.
so yea I'm right there with you Karl, where were these guys 20 + years ago?
I guess the one question I have Karl, is where do you put your ballistic plates? putting ballistic plates over top would seem to be the right way or are those plates stand alone ballistic protection as well? if so what level?
Under plates for cooling. Over plates if you just want to use to haul water
@@TacticalRifleman thanks Karl, I looked them up with the web address you listed in the description. but thanks for answering just the same. great vid.
Man I did not know any of that! Heat injuries are no joke!
Pls don't gimme the silver bullet.
Justin must be one of the better spokespersons based on the SHOT show coverage I've seen to date. Having a smart product that he believes in probably helps a lot. Good job on the sound quality for this video too. Most other videos have absolute crap sound. Happy hunting for the other two products!
Thanks for watching, TR
Thanks Jim!
They should make a super insulated iceplate case to put in your 3 day pack so you can take a few extra cold plates out with you, the extended cooling effect over the day swapping out hot iceplates with fresh chilled ones would make up for the extra weight you have to carry.
The Fremen are VERY interested in this, expect an order from a Mr. Paul Muad'Dib Atreides. Bad jokes aside, this looks fantastic. For the professionals this looks a Godsend. I worked 6 years at a Fed Ex Ground warehouse in Central California, in the summer you would die from the heat, and this would have been great to have, and should be used already to keep people cool in the heat. Great product. Thanks Qore.
Thank you!
Damn you beat me to the Stillsuit reference.
I’m glad you found them to share the product with more people! I picked one up for civilian use in my backpack a couple weeks ago.
-So far it’s mostly perfect for my uses, but since I only have one I haven’t been able to put it through some of the physical training challenges I’d like to.
I have noticed that the ice plate will remain deformed inward if there is no air let back in after suction, am not sure but could imagine it becoming more permanent if allowed to be left that way. Also, I electrical taped a section of the bite valve because somehow I’d pulled it free from the tube.
Other than that, it’s been great, and actually adds comfort to my backpack while adding some weight for training and the obvious hydration.
Thanks for sharing your experience, TR
Thanks for the support! The inward deformation is normal and will have no impact on performance or durability. Reversing it is easy if you'd like: just blow air into it when storing. Hope that helps and let us know if you have any additional questions.
Qore Performance That is what I’ve been doing, thanks. I’ll let you know any further information when I begin testing in parkour applications such as break falls and rolls✌🏽
@@tacpunk7996 sounds great - thanks!
OUTSTANDING! I'm Sold. This guy really knows how to represent his company. Thanks Karl for this vid.
He should! He is the Co-Founder and CEO :) More on the backstory here:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/blog-iceage/qore-perfomance-featured-on-nprs-popular-podcast-how-i-built-this-with-guy-raz?_pos=1&_sid=a484eec68&_ss=r
Great presentation. Hope he gets big commissions
@@rueridge7597 Thank you!
@@QorePerformanceUSA - Great interview and story! Thanks for sharing.
@@rivierstad3817 Thank you for watching and thanks for the support - we really appreciate it!
Absol-freaking-lutely BRILLIANT!!
Thank you! #StayFrosty
Figures!... after I retire they come out with this!
i wasnt able to make it to shot but what i saw from other videos nothing got me excited and then ur video came on my yt timeline and i couldnt be more happier awesome product; keeping the body cool will also prevent dehydration.
This is absolutely a game changer
Thank you - we agree! #StayFrosty
You'll have to do a follow up when you get some time with yours. I saw this a year or two ago when they just had the "frost" color and they were flat so they held the plate carrier away from your body. I'm glad they came out with a curved unit in a more natural color. I always thought it was a great idea but I feel obligated to get them now.
I will test the he’ll out of these once i get my set. Thanks for watching, TR
I went through infantry basic, AIT and Jump school at Benning in June, July and August of 91, and it was definitely Africa hot. I also worked in Phoenix at a horse ranch during the summer months. That was oven hot. I agree with Karl. These would have been nice then. Concerning the FLEX at 13:15, I assume it works by conducting hot or cold to the plate as it doesn't directly touch the body? That's the only way I can see that part of the system working.
Benning is hot AF. I did Basic @ Ft. Knox in July-August 2008 and that was hot enough but Benning is definitely hotter. I was there March-late May 2011 & it was 70's-80's+ every day
Science & sound engineering wins again. Love it!!
+1 for science and engineering!
@@QorePerformanceUSA Qore Performance, I am retired from the paper industry this video is being forwarded to every one I know that works in mill maintenance. Without even knowing the price I am confident that ROI is one use.
@@ramblinman5350 Thank you so much! Your instincts are right on sir. Our QSR (Quick Serve Restaurant) customers usually make their money back in 3-4 months in temperate climates and as quickly as 1-2 weeks in hot climates like Arizona. Not bad CAPEX ROI!
I just pre ordered the IcePlate Curved with the IMS sleeve in black. I can’t wait to get it. I’m no longer in the Marine Corps but I still want to remain lean, mean and green. This is going to be great when I do my weekly (5.11 Tactec)plate carrier PT runs here in Mississippi.
Funny that he mentioned Fort Bragg. I did an obstacle course race there in 2018. It was so fucking hot that the ground felt like lava.
Thanks for innovating Qore, good job here!
Thanks for your support - we really appreciate it!
I have had these for about 2 years. They work.
Yep. So, I am helping to spread the word. Thanks for watching, TR
Awesome - thanks for the support! We really appreciate it! #StayFrosty
Didn’t mean for that to maybe sound like I was talking shit. Lol I should have added how awesome they actually are. Mine are the old kinda clear ones, so definitely need to get these.. Also had seen a video on their carrier the other day and was wondering. But hell I trust your judgement so looks like that’s coming also.. Been watching TR for about 3ish years now, & need to get down your way for a class. Only about 5hrs out.
i found this channel by happy accident. i am glad i did man! 10/10 would recommend! Subbed!
Thanks for the Support. TR
Karl, thanks for this review I already sent it to my safety supervisor to buy some for work in our HF Alkylation unit protective suits!
I hope your leaders see that value and take care of their employees
Thanks! Here is some additional info about PPE applications:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/staying-cool-in-the-suit-preventing-heat-incidents-in-the-cbrne-hazmat-environment?_pos=1&_sid=046524a1a&_ss=r
Let us know if we can provide any additional assistance. #StayFrosty
@@QorePerformanceUSA
You can contact me at DJBarber@MarathonPetroleum.com. I'm the HESS Manager for our site and I've directed my safety supervisor to order a couple of the units for trial under Level A and B suits in our Alkylation. I think there are other applications they may work well in also especially in hot humid climates.
@@darinbarber2922 Will do - thank you!
Thanks so much for this video. Picking up the PPE version for work
Outstanding! Here is more info for PPE applications:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/staying-cool-in-the-suit-preventing-heat-incidents-in-the-cbrne-hazmat-environment?_pos=1&_sid=ee4de5ab2&_ss=r
Safety Applications:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/industrial-insights/7-ways-to-keep-drive-thru-workers-safe-and-cool-this-summer
Solid plan. Thanks for watching, TR
Thanks for showing off a great new product.
Glad to help spread the word. Thanks for watching, TR
I may buy this just for laying around the house. I live in Australia and today nearly hit 50 degrees Celsius
I work airline and this is so good during the summer, I just wish they make plates in swimmer plate shape
How about one for the combat dogs
We have had a number of requests for this. Please contact us at Info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com if we can be of further assistance and/or link you up with our other MIL/LE customers requesting this application.
Perhaps some day
@@TacticalRifleman probably sooner rather than later
I have access to a military/LE working dog school, that would be happy to test with you. Also, the 5th Special Forces Group Working Dog program is right near by and we could visit there also. They have been doing non-stop combat ops in middle east and Africa for 15 years.
@@TacticalRifleman That would be awesome! We have had quite a few customers ask us for a K9-specific IcePlate Harness.
I do 2 gun in Florida and definitely gonna buy these things, cant imagine them NOT becoming standard issue for the military soon too
The cooling study doesn't surprise me. During kickboxing fights our coaches would either put ice on our body between rounds or in case ice was unavailable you get sprayed with water and cooled by a spinning towel.
Those 3 yrs. of 82nd, 6 of Bricklaying, 3 of Passenger Elevator Constructing, & 23 as a Tx-DOT Inspector of New Construction of Highway & Bridges, would well have welcomed such a stupendous temperature regulating device.
Obligements for bringing us all them sure wished we should'a had's T.R. -11b4p 1/504
Thanks. I’m gonna keep pushing this, as there are many that can benefit. Strength and Honor, TR
@@TacticalRifleman Might suggest to Jason that hot ice may lengthen the effectiveness in cooling time & lessen the weight decrements factor; as opposed to water. Less weight translates to more ammo & crucial equipment.
A 2 bird with a one stone kill, would translate into a non heat casualty successful mission - along with enough hot ice leftover for cooling off a team's worth of # Juan Margaritas...
3rd Bird kill would be that Arm Chair Nay-sayin little bas-tird Just Wayne.
Thank you sir. Finally something innovative.
I wish I had it in Iraq and Africa
Every Colonel watching got a big stiffie when they saw the "PT Belt" version in the background. Lets see what they think about the price though.
Lol - fear not, we built IceVest HiVis for our commercial customers.
@@QorePerformanceUSA sounds good. I'm happy a company has finally heard Joe and Jane's prayers. Hang tough and carry on.
@@masterof1 Rog. #StayFrosty
This is highly important. I've seen more guys go down to heat then to battle. Most of the time we lost them in Lousiana before we even got to the Desert lol. Lousiana in summertime still is the hottest place on earth to me. It's not the actual temperature that gets you, it's the crazy humidity with the heat. Iraq can hit 130 no problem, but theres hardly any humidity so it doesnt feel as bad
This is the way.
Louisiana resident here. Take my money. Plz
@@bucko504 www.qoreperformance.com/
Man that's awesome of course it would come out as I'm about to retire.
Right? I missed it too
I’m serious, thank you Karl. I’m a mailman here in Arizona. Our postal vehicles do not have air-conditioning in them and we are not allowed to drive with the doors open. If we are caught driving with the doors open. We get the we’re going to fire you speech. I am definitely getting one of those. Is there a promo code for you so you get credit? Last year we had a carrier die in California from heat stroke. The attitude the post office was she had heat stroke before. So another words it was her fault.
Sorry, I don’t have a promo code yet, but thanks for thinking of me. Stay safe out there. TR
Reaper5.56 Xx I appreciate you saying something. The city union has gone after them multiple times but they always lose. I think it’s the safety procedures the post office claims that allows them to get around OSHA standards. That also goes for the department of labor.
I've had (and loved) these since their first generation a couple years ago. Awesome affirmation to see Carl that giddy about them!!! :-D
That is pretty bad ass. Like Karl said, Where was that when I was running around in hot sandy places. Going to get some anyway for hiking in the summer.
Any ideas for low-vis carriers that would work well with these and not freak out people on the trail?
Our all-new IcePlate Carrier Exoskeleton (ICE) is currently available in Coyote, but we'll be dropping black very soon for a lower-vis option:
www.qoreperformance.com/products/ice
Thanks Carl, you rock!
Have they considered making a water bladder shaped like a plate? Maybe put some baffles/a lattice inside so it maintains its shape.
Yes, we've looked at soft bladders, but we intentionally went hard cell for a few reasons, namely strength and shape consistency when freezing. To get a soft bladder to freeze in the shape of a Medium ESAPI plate consistently (to make it easy to wear with armor), a mold would be required which would add complexity and cost to the user experience. Our all-new IcePlate Curve has an integrated Q-Hex Baffle (patent pending):
www.qoreperformance.com/?view=iceplatecurve
Hope this helps, but please let us know if you have any additional questions!
I think this is a game changer on many levels! One of the best inventions to come out in a long time. But I have a question; when a warrior gets hit in the body armor the energy is dramatic and can break bones but at least they won’t leak. But the energy that hits the plate then adds a “hydro shock” effect because of the energy from the bullet causing the water in the container to add additional energy. Does that increase the potential damage to the user? Has this been measured and eliminated?
The threat from hydro shock wave isn’t from bullets hitting. Rather, it is from the over-pressure shock wave of a near explosive blast. This shockwave actually speeds up when it hits the fluid of the body. Fortunately, these waves slow down very quickly. A block of C4 ( with no shrapnel) would kill you at 4 feet, but not at 15 feet. You still get your bell rung, but it is the shrapnel that kills at distance. Also, most near blasts are often low... think stepping on mine or grenade thrown at feet, this shock wave is mostly missing the plate
Thanks Karl that explains a lot. I plan on buying several sets of these because I’ve see the benefits for cooling down or warming up in the back country. The question was geared for warriors and how it could take a round. Thanks for showing us one of the new things at SHOT SHOW! Take care brother
@@jamesswain100 Thanks for the great question! Water is actually the best possible medium for dealing with the incredible amount of energy that comes from an impacting round. IcePlate is able to disperse most of this energy laterally, reducing BFD tremendously. Here are the testing videos we shot:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/iceplate-ballistic-testing-videos-how-to-eliminate-backface-deformation-behind-soft-body-armor?_pos=1&_sid=722bf7292&_ss=r
Let us know if you have any other questions. #StayFrosty
I’d love to see its ballistic assist ability behind a plate by dispersing that energy over surface area.
So simple and basic yet no one else tried to create this system to the dimensions, shape, and size of this.... For 10 summers while working on commercial aircrafts in temps over 110 degrees plus 65 to 70% humidity this idea would of been perfect!
Amen
Wow so simple but so perfect!
Wish I had it back in the day
Hooooot DOG! Now, that is innovation. Thanks for the find Carl!
Thank you! Super humbling to hear - we appreciate the support!
kool invenyion sir nice one to have thanks TR！
Pretty sure they don't kick you out of the army entirely if you get a heat injury during any kind of training. I had a friend who went through RASP at Fort Benning, and he said that people who would have heat injuries weren't kicked out of the course but they were recycled or sometimes sent home till they healed and were allowed to try again if their recovery took too long. As long as they didn't voluntarily give up, they were able to put in another Ranger selection packet and go back to try RASP again. If you voluntarily gave up you burned that bridge to ranger battalion forever. The army knows full and well that it's awfully hard to prevent a heat injury when you're running 8-9 miles in 102 degree heat with 90% humidity after quickly fireman carrying a 220lb soldier up and down cardiac hill.
I didn't go through this process myself, but from what he told me it seems like heat injuries are preventable to a certain degree, but if it's almost 100% humidity and hotter than hell you're going to have a hard time not passing out from that heat. I mean, Benning has a damn heat injury center to study and prevent heat injuries because they were seeing them so often and it was costing them millions. Now, if you had these plates in a carrier during those runs or training you might not have as many heat injuries and you might help soldiers become stronger and run for longer. This could be very beneficial to the army or any service branch because it would severely reduce costs associated with time lost recovering from a heat injury, and from training having to be repeated if you get recycled or cycled out to go home and recover.
My Camelbacks had conductive cooling... Every time I would get into a bird or HUMVEE that thing would pop and I would look like I pissed myself. #UNEXPECTEDBENEFITS #FUKMYLIF
We've definitely heard that one before...:)
#metoo
My Source bladder had the same awesome feature 😂
Nathan Melzer ah the “camelback shower” - good times and no drinking water :(
@@Daytonaman675 Ah it was fucking bleach water anyways lol
Seen it and it is on my list.
Awesome - thank you!
You are an incredible salesman. You basically sold that thing by yourself. Even made me want to buy 5 of those to wear at home.
It's a great product that sells itself. TR
Very cool...... No pun intended...lol
We used to drop cooling bandanas and cooling helmet liners on water, let them saturate and then freeze them. We tried that with the body armor, but it got too awkward.
Outstanding gear!
Nice. Excellent concept. Will have to give them a try.
Thanks for the support - please let us know if we can answer any questions for you: Info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com
Literally going to Ghan in less than a month I’m getting this!
Awesome! Let us know if we can answer any questions for you. FYSA:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/the-qore-performance-military-law-enforcement-and-fire-ems-program-what-is-it-and-who-qualifies
Would have been awesome when I was cheffing in the kitchen all those years ago!!
How does it feel under your plate carrier?
You can check out what customers have to say about wearing IcePlate here:
www.qoreperformance.com/collections/iceplate-1
We have over 120 reviews for IcePlate and IcePlate Curve. Hopefully that helps, but please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any additional questions!
I don’t notice it
Qore Performance is the curve for the front plate and the normal ice plate for rear?
@@gabrielsimmons3736 IcePlate Curve and IcePlate Classic both work for front and/or rear applications. IcePlate Curve is better for plate carrier/armor/vest setups and IcePlate Classic is best for Travel/EDC Backpacks. Hope that helps and let us know if you have any additional questions. #StayFrosty
Speaking of conductive cooling. I wonder if you could use excess body heat as a way to charge up batteries you’re using for coms, nvgs, and optics. Doesn’t have to fully do it. Just has to prolong it I guess as long as it’s a really good heat sink.
We've studied Kinetic Energy Recovery extensively and there just isn't enough power there to do anything meaningful. It may not sound like much, but the 70 watts of cooling power stored in every IcePlate Curve is incredibly powerful. #StayFrosty
Try the peacock pocket warmers.
I use them for a while now. I find them way better than the chemical ones.
I thought the reason for not protecting the pelvic girdle was bc it's a weight/performance issue.
Great and informative vid as usually...the reason I stick around.
Thanks for watching, TR
Wish I could have been there
I don't like hot weather so it's sound an excellent idea. Btw need to know the material used before I drink the water (some plastics can contaminate, usually slightly, the water).
IcePlate Classic and IcePlate Curve are both made from BPA-free, FDA-certified HDPE in Central Texas and upstate New York.
Qore Performance, great to know, thanks for the response!
@@QorePerformanceUSA OK Thanks for your answer
@@JCBPARISPARIS our pleasure!
Outstanding!!!
Thanks!
I’ve had some of their stuff for a while
You didn’t even talk about the shoulder pads.
And I can’t figure out who makes that pc
Sounds like a need for a second more in depth video?
Me: Hey. This is really cool. I want one.
*looks up price*
Me: Nevermind
BAD ASS. This is genius.
Nice kit if it was balistic proof too 👍 also the camel jockeys and elephant pilots all use PCP to keep going so I think it's a great product.😎
Ballistic BFD testing videos:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/iceplate-ballistic-testing-videos-how-to-eliminate-backface-deformation-behind-soft-body-armor?_pos=1&_sid=a6e08a8fa&_ss=r
Amen
Didn't they show this last year..? Other thought, could they make the outer face armored to integrate the plate?
We showed the prototype at SHOT 2019, but we didn't launch IcePlate Curve until August 2019. We first debuted the prototype ICE (IcePlate Carrier Exoskeleton) at SOFIC in May 2019, but it went live last night:
www.qoreperformance.com/products/ice
Karl Interesting, though I am not sure the add on carrier would cool much as it molles on top of the exterior of the plate carrier. So the armor is between you and the ice plate then....hmmmm. The normal way is against your body with the ballistic plate on top,(outside), concern then is blunt force of a ice plate behind armor??????Getting hit in armor is bad enough, but I would like to see some tests shooting this stackup with ballistic clay.
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/iceplate-ballistic-testing-videos-how-to-eliminate-backface-deformation-behind-soft-body-armor?_pos=1&_sid=35d979d8a&_ss=r
On the way to Stillsuits.
As those water plates get drank they will make noise just like a canteen which is what they are. Your redesign needs to be more like a bladder to solve the noise issue and it needs to include a gasmask attachment so we can drink when we have it on.
The gas mask attachment can be added by any Joe, as the tube is a standard size. However, having it standard would just add unneeded cost to everyone else that doesn’t need the gas mask feature.
As for bladders, I disagree with you there; I have had too many camelbacks pop over the years. As thin as the plate is, it shouldn’t make the “Bell” sound that the sloshing canteen makes
Tactical Rifleman good points. I never had a camelbak leak on me and I played hard in my day but I have heard of it. The NBC/chemical camelbak are made of much tougher stuff.
We incorporated the Q-Hex Baffle in the center of IcePlate Curve to address audible signature:
www.qoreperformance.com/?view=iceplatecurve
I've been using an Ice plate since early 2017. Its not new, the general public is now becoming aware of their glory.....
It's a shame they haven't been better advertised, it's an excellent idea!
Great video 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching, TR
Very! Very! Cool 😎
Saw this on my instagram sponsored Ads.. Thought it was a joke. But after explanation its pretty cool
Thanks!
This would have been great, while I was working on flight deck in the Persian Gulf
Yep
I would always put my water in my ruck, so I could have in my Vic... so as you add thickness, you just get fatter...Very cool vest though.
Cool beans...✊
Awesome!!
Thanks!
I wasn’t able to watch the entire video. Is this compatible with sapi plate?
Yep! More details:
www.qoreperformance.com/?view=iceplatecurve
ua-cam.com/video/QVTbGiqsOPU/v-deo.html&lc=z23jsprbwsykxnqkcacdp432wg0oltmuzlpttrr0e35w03c010c
Requesting Woodland pattern options
i have been waiting for a copy of this.
havent seen one yet so i might have order a pair for summer soon.
Only problem I see is using it in conjunction with ballisticplates..I'm guessing the plates need to be right up against the body to work right?
50 Stitches Steel the Ice plate comes with ties that allow you to rig it up attached to your rear plate bag so its between your back and the plate carrier
@@jonh8685 ok gotcha. It looked like it rigged up to the molly on the outside of the carrier
50 Stitches Steel yeah that bag is another option, and mounts it on the outside. Garand Thumb talks about the Ice Plate in more detail for mounting in his video on hydration solutions if interested
You can see our full array of testing videos here:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/iceplate-ballistic-testing-videos-how-to-eliminate-backface-deformation-behind-soft-body-armor?_pos=1&_sid=93493cf9d&_ss=r
Call me rotten, but I want it front n back.
Man what a great idea!
Question, are these so thick that you couldn't slide them in behind AR500 steel plates in your existing carrier?
Willie Austin, you might be able to if it was an extra-large carrier with standard plates, so the edges had room to flex out. (Qore could answer better.)
@@f308gtb1977 Right on - details above.
Yes, just depends on your specific carrier/armor combo. Here is an article we wrote on the subject last year, but full disclosure: we need to update it for IcePlate Curve - just haven't had time, but we'll get to it:
www.qoreperformance.com/blogs/military-insights/plate-carrier-compatibility-does-iceplate-work-with-my-plate-carrier?_pos=1&_sid=803b67c37&_ss=r
So is this intended to be worn outside of the plates or inside?
Inside
TR covered this, but you can do either/or depending on your specific environment and application:
ua-cam.com/video/QVTbGiqsOPU/v-deo.html
Karl can you pls tell me who makes the “hanger” & the armor plate in it @ 8:25?
I couldn’t find it on Qore’s website.
You’ll have to ask them, but I believe they make their own carrier
Tactical Rifleman Thanks for replying.
Sorry for the delayed reply. Answers to your questions below.
If by "hanger" you mean our IceShield Plus hand warmer, you can find that here:
www.qoreperformance.com/collections/iceshield-1/products/iceshield-hand-warmer
Armor plate is by Armor Express. Details on the product page.
Let us know if you have any other questions: info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com
Where do you get the armor insert for the front hand pouch?
Every major armor manufacturer offers various sizes of “side plate” that will fit any pouch or pocket that you want to armor
Tactical Rifleman ah ok, simple enough and makes perfect sense. I love your channel, the only thing I like about Friday’s is that you guys drop a video!!! 🙃💯🇺🇸
Makes me wonder, with a bit more engineering, I would think some ballistics capabilities could be worked into the system? Ice and water too, assuming they are full, could work to dissipate the BF trauma energy. I look forward to the future with this. Mix with drinking alcohol lowering that freeze point and a ready made party in your pants so to speak. I mean your vest. lol
Savage brain you got there!
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Perfect for bow hunting. I always overheat.
Agreed
So no more red wristbands for heat casualties? Or is thAt still a thing?
I have a question. A while back you were talking about how knock offs of EO Tech and other sites had a one-way transmitter in them. these transmitters would give away the location of our guys. Do you think a frequency blocker like a cell phone jammer could block this?
I meant emitter.... of the light. A radio frequency jammer won’t effect optics unless they have Bluetooth switches
Way out of the purpose but theese would be absolutely perfect for XC racing
Yep
This does look awesome. I just have two main questions.
How bad is the sloshing around noise once you start drinking? I know if you're trying to be all sneaky you need to walk more slowly anyway, I just hate how half empty canteens make that noise.
And secondly, after that initial 2 hours, what then? Does it keep you warmer? Do you take the ice plates out after drinking it all?
Not knocking the product. I reckon it's a great idea. The roadwork crews here in Australia will be a huge market for you guys with the hi Vis stuff. And firefighters too.
You don’t get the “Bell” sound of the. Canteen
@@TacticalRifleman that's awesome to know. Thanks. I'm 100% sold on it now. Better start saving. Even if all it's really good for is that first few hours, I regularly hunt on foot when it's 100 degrees out in that last 2-3 hours of daylight. This thing should be awesome.
Hopefully they are easy to get in Australia. The market here should be big enough to make it worth their while. At the least, it gives us an excuse to dress up in a chest rig (because our overlords prohibit body armour for the serfs).
@@bushcraftingmuslim We ship to Australia every week, easy day. Our website will give you an automatic quote and we always refund any shipping excess if we are able to save you money on the backend. In terms of a distributor, we don't have one yet, but let your favorite distributor know you want them to carry our line. It is always more powerful coming from the customer vs. if we reach out to them. Hope this helps but hit us up if you have any questions: Info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com. #StayFrosty