GERMANY VS USA | ANKLE MONITORS IN SOCIETY | JUSTICE SYSTEM DIFFERENCES
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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Hey everyone, I know some numbers are a little off in this video due to a few things:
1) There wasn't that much public information regarding this topic
2) A lot of the information was old/dated
but nonetheless my point is that there is a big discrepancy between the usage of ankle monitors in the USA and Germany and I think it deserves a video all to itself.
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00:00 Germany vs USA | Ankle monitors
01:05 Self-pay
01:59 Why was information so difficult to find information?
02:27 How many people wear ankle monitors?
03:15 When did ankle monitors start being used?
04:13 How much do they cost?
05:39 Rules & regulations in the USA (lack thereof)
06:40 Class action lawsuits
07:20 Who gets an ankle monitor and what does an ankle monitor offer?
08:41 Crimogenic socialization
09:15 No real proof of positive outcomes
10:30 Fear of jail
11:15 Final thoughts & don't forget to subscribe
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Hey everyone, I know some numbers are a little off in this video due to a few things:
1) There wasn't that much public information regarding this topic
2) A lot of the information was old/dated
but nonetheless my point is that there is a big discrepancy between the usage of ankle monitors in the USA and Germany and I think it deserves a video all to itself.
Don’t even take into account the excess fees for phone calls and commissary accounts for incarcerated individuals. The Prison Industrial Complex is out of control in the US because it is profitable
Oh I know! Every time I talk about this I get so worked up because it is such a horrible system that sets so many people up for failure.
Take notice that when health care is for profit then many more can't afford it or try to make do by self medicating, in both cases it's a shocking state of affairs.
In my next life, I'll run the phone service in a county jail. There's no safer way to infinite wealth.
Well, in my opinion, the words "prison" and "industry" should not be used in any context with each other at all.
ist halt ein Geschäft mit dem Ankle Monitor in den USA - genau wie ein Gefängnis. In Deutschland zieht man erstmal das Grundrecht eines Menschen heran und baut dann ein Gefängnis drumherum in den USA baut man ein Gefängnis so das der Erbauer den besten Profit macht. In Deutschland wird eine Gebühr erhoben die die Kosten für Arbeitskraft und Material decken soll ( so auf Grundlage von ZPO würde ich hier vermuten ) - in den USA bestimmt kauft der Staat einen Ankle Monitor zu welchem Preis auch immer und lädt die Kosten auf dem Mensch ab - Hauptsache wieder hier - der Hersteller des Ankle Monitors macht seinen Profit.
Ich vermute wenn die USA, am besten durch die Demokraten, nicht binnen den nächsten 100 Jahre zu einer sozialen Markwirtschaft umschwenken dann bestehen die USA nicht mehr aus Staaten sondern 10 Distrikten in den von unten nach oben gedient wird auf finanziellem Status angelehnt. Es gibt ja heute schon ein Kastensystem aus dem die wengisten ausbrechen können. Man muss nur mal schauen, wieviele Leute, in den USA mit einer Waffe in eine Polizeistation spazieren um sich erschiessen zu lassen.
In Deutschland hörst Du so oft "zu arm zum leben - zu reich zum sterben" - in den USA muss man sagen "get rich - or die tryin" und das spiegelt sich hier wieder..... müssen nicht zum tode verurteilte auch noch sofern sie geld haben ihre hinrichtung bezahlen ?
Das ist typisches linkes Geschwätz von Fantasten, die weder die Realität noch das Land verstanden haben. Es gibt in Sachen Strafrecht nur dann die USA, wenn es sich um Bundesdelikte handelt. Alles andere handelt jeder der 50 Staaten für sich so ab, wie er es für richtig hält, das nennt sich FÖDERALISMUS, etwas womit Linke nicht klar kommen, weshalb Blue States auch am Arsch sind und Red States nicht. 🤷♂️
Nicht alle Gefängnisse in den USA sind privat. Allerdings gibt es in Deutschland kein einziges Privatgefängnis.
In my 30+ years living in Germany I never heard of someone let alone meet someone who is wearing or had to wear an ankle montior in the past.
in the US, you have to pay to be on formal probation also (about 100 per MONTH, at least that is what it was 8 years ago, for them to talk to you for 2 minutes or so each month)...California also generally doesn't care if you can afford something court ordered. I have actually been arrested (they came to my home) because I could not afford a court ordered program and was waitlisted for the only one in my area available for "lower income" people for a few days past the deadline they gave me....but I did not have the money for any of the other programs. So they arrested me and since I could not afford bail I lost my job from not showing up, had to repeat a semester of university for missing finals, and after a week in jail the judge let me go without charging me with anything new so it was all for no reason.
Wow.... I don't know what to say that is very shitty... Once I started reading the stories of people with their ankle monitors it made me so upset and then reading your comment made me even more upset. The system sucks so bad :(
what? that is so messed up!! That seems like the state is actively pushing someone on the "wrong path"... very concerning
What an interesting topic, Hayley! Thank you so much for this, I never thought about it and didn’t even know that we use them here at all. I would love to watch a more in depth video about it - but no pressure 😅
Have a wonderful day! ❤
Danke für das Video sehr interessant!❤
Goog Morning Miss Hayley ^^ (my morning, I guess, it's a timed upload? ^^)
I am awake...but should MOST DEFINITELY be in bed!
Good morning ;)
@@HayleyAlexis Oopsie. I meant "good". Obviously my brain is still in bed, too ^^
Dann nu aber husch husch ins Körbchen ;)
@@HayleyAlexis guten Mittag nach Florida! Ist auch bei mir hier heute etwas später geworden! Liebe Grüße, Ben❤
You are so cool, the topics you choose for your videos are extremely interesting!! You should be a lawyer, I mean it!!!❤
Thats crazy! Im letzten Video habe ich gedacht:"I have feeling she might soon goo for long hair again". Und jetzt: tadaaa!😁😊
A good thing to mention in your next video would be that the US has the highest amount of prisoners per capita, and how in some states these prisoners are used as slave labor ( they are paid like a dollar or two an hour )
Actually I believe it is less than $1 an hour (like 50 cents or something) and they are forced to work.
And how this slave labor is perfectly legal _as slave labor,_ because slavery hasn't been abolished *completely* in the US, with prisoners being explicitly exempt in the 13th amendment.
To be fair (well, as fair as possible) prisoners in Germany get less than the minimum wage for their work as well. I forgot how much and why, but it’s less than minimum wage.
Hayley, when I watch the US court shows here on UA-cam, I hear alot about ankle monitors .. I`ve seen trials (not talking about Judge Mathis, or Judge Judy, or The People`s Court, etc.) but I have heard about them a lot over there. In Germany, I have NEVER heard about those things being implemented in the German court system - so hearing that 170 people actually WEAR those - is something new to me. Honestlyy, I didn`t know they had them to use. I thought it was only used over in US. That is interesting to know.
I knew that they are in use in other countries (New Zealand for example) but Germany was new to me (a German) as well.
After it happened to you that a police officer 👮 lied and said that you did something wrong that you obviously didn’t do wrong… how many people do you think are in jail for no reason? In the USA 🇺🇸 vs Deutschland 🇩🇪? 😅 I mean when they need certain numbers but not enough people do something wrong… they “need” to punish people that have done nothing wrong 😅
This is why the US has normal citizens on the jury to find people guilty or not guilty with big crimes (murder and homicide). A guy in the US was accused of murdering his wife. Police took the wife's dad's word over the ex-husband's word. There was the ex-husband's DNA at the scene of the crime. The thing that saved him was he used his credit card 150 miles (240 km) from the crime scene. He would have needed to travel 150 miles (240 km) in 10 minutes. The prosecution changed the story and said that husband hired someone to kill her. The jury didn't buy it and was set free. The dad murdered his own daughter and planted the ex-husband's DNA on the crime scene. The lesson I learned js credit cards are a good thing to use.
Yes, I hear you Hayley. I actually never thought much about ankle monitors. But I see your point: As soon as you see somebody with one, you know something is up. And of course it's better to ba able to be at home and not in prison, it's still a stigma for sure. But now I am curious. In Germany you have some prisoners who work outside the prison. So they leave in the morning at a specific time and they have to return at a specific time and they spend their nights and weekend and so on in prison. Does something like that also exist in the US?
Ich wusste weder, dass 500 tsd. Leute in USA einen Ancle Monitor tragen. 😳😱😵💫
Noch wusste ich, dass hier in D 167 Leute einen tragen. 😅
Wieder was gelernt.
didn't even know we use them here in germany tbh ^^
I actually thought they would be used because we use them so frequently in the USA....
@@HayleyAlexisI think most Germans didn’t know about them being used here, because they are so rarely used and not mentioned in the news (much).
I was more aware of prisoners leaving prison for the day to go to work for example.
Beamtendeutsch. I love it. 😆 no person normal speaking is using it, but everybody need to read it at least once in lifetime.
Hi. New haircut. Michael aus Köln
Liebe Grüße aus Bayern intressantes Thema..Dein Deutsch ist prima was macht das bayrische 😊
Aus NRW-Sicht würde ich sagen: der Akzent passt schon mal. Bayrisch könnte ich nicht beurteilen, das verstehe ich nicht (mir ist Niederländisch näher).
Auch viele Fragen die ein Richter in den USA dem Angeklagten stellt, wären an einen deutschen Gericht unzulässig. Wie Fragen nach Krankheiten, Namen von Freunden, Verwandten, Partnern, Nachbarn usw. Danke fürs Video
Und anderes, was ein deutscher Richter macht verstößt gegen dortiges Recht. Die anglo-amerikanische Rechtsfamilie ist halt sehr verschieden von der kontinentaleuropäischen Rechtsfamilie.
@@Ophomox -familie- tradition
Zu meiner Studienzeit (Mitte-Ende 90er) wurde im internationalen Rechtsvergleich Rechtsordnungen in Rechtskreise (deutscher, romanischer, skandinavischer) eingeteilt und die nächst höher Ordnung Waren Rechtsfamilien (Kontinentaleuropäisch, Angloamerikanisch, Islamisch).
Nur das bekomme ich nicht sinnvoll auf englisch geschrieben (brauche es fast nie).
Good morning dear Hayley!
In the US Drump could be elected even if he is in prison or on probation, but you lose the right to vote!🤯
Yeah Mike and I talked about this the other day.... It is crazy to me that this is even a viable option for certain US citizens.... Such a f*cked up country.
@@HayleyAlexis I was writing with a creator on YT the other day who said he did shit with drugs as an 18 year old and was in jail. Today, in his mid-30s, he is still not allowed to vote!🤯😡
Die Menschenwürde ist unser wichtigstes Gut! Polarlichter gesehen! Schönen Sonntag, Arno!❤
@@tasminoben686 Stimmt.
Ne leider nicht gesehen.
Dir auch einen schönen Sonntag, Ben!
@@tasminoben686 Ich habe nur etliche Satelliten gesehen und drei Sternschnuppen. Muss gleich nochmal raus.
Your german is really sweet :)
Thank you! It is very difficult to practice in the us but nonetheless speaking is the best practice
It should be simple to implement a balance of power here.
The state implementing laws, and strictly following legal codes of conduct, should implement and monitor ankle monitors to protect society from minor criminals.
The government should be monitored by independent NGOs, and between these systems, a balance of power must exist. The government must NOT have the "last word," but there should rather be an agreed upon modus vevendi.
If not, human nature will persist and corruption will take over down the road. Just another good idea, in a long list of historical good ideas, corrupted by human nature: greed, fallible individuals, etc.
So 250,000 out of about 333,300,000 versus 120 out of about 83,800,000.
Just imagine you have no grandparents in good health and need an Enkel Monitor! That would cost dearly in Germany as we have minimum pay rules.
I have observed, if you _really_ want an effective justice system, it behooves you to keep it _simple._ The more nuances you allow to creep in, the more places you allow for corruption to fester, which means the more places it _will_ fester. This opens the system up to exploitation.
So more "three strikes" laws? Makes everything simpler. And more unjust.
You're so unbelievably wrong.
And that injustice is promptly exposed, because the system is simple.
500k people with ankle monitors, 1.3 billion profit.. that's $2,600 in _profit_ per Person per year, $7 a day.
that is an average.... Which does not include many factors. Usually people that have it paid for by the government have a cheaper daily fee than people that pay it privately.
$7 a day is still a lot of money when the federal minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour and people that have ankle bracelets have a harder chance of finding stable income
I never understood why the US, the Land of the free, has the highest rate of people inprisoned, more then Turkmenistan or El Salvador and way more then China or Russia or some of the "really bad countries". Well not understood in terms of "why do the American people let that happen? There is no prison that makes a Person a better Person, on the contrary. But i guess there is a lot of good money to make for a few 🤨
Money isn't the main motivation here (not all US prisons are private). The main motivation is getting (re)elected. And that, in the US, doesn't just apply to politicians, it also applies to various levels (depending on the state, as always) of the justice system. In the US, in many areas, positions like sheriffs, police chiefs, district attorneys (Staatsanwälte) and judges are elected. By the people. And in the US, "tough on crime" gets votes on all levels.
And also you have to sell these things to your average voter. Who is stupid/simple. Thus "three strikes" laws. Which are a big part of why so many people are in prison in the US.
7:01 Hang on. So that's $765 a month per _individual?_ A _single individual_ has to pay $765 a month?
Yes…. 🫠
@@HayleyAlexis An idea from one of the few democracies in the world that still has the death penalty. 🤦♂
so you suddenly became aware of ankle monitors..
what did Micha do now?
This is baffeling to me. I would think that sexual or violent offences should be a counteridication for ankle monitors. *Because* these people still pose a threat to society and *because* they are moving within society and with relatively more freedom than in jail and *because* of that little sentence in the one German article you showed "sie können theoretisch zerschnitten werden und der Gefangene könnte untertauchen". I other words: even if a monitored person will be found soon after cutting off his ankle monitor and even if it sounds an alarm... it might leave enough time to commit a new act of (sexual) violence. And even if he is then found and punished - that is another person violated by that criminal, which could have been prevented by keeping him or her in jail. So, to me, the probability of another sexual or violent offence happening should 100% mean that anke monitoring is not an option! It should only be applied to people who are no threat to society, who are behaving well, but who still have a portion of their sentence to do.
You don't know if they will be repeat offenders. Some 18 year olds make a mistake when they are away at University, friends pressured them into something, and drunk. I dated a guy that raped a girl when he was 18. He was at University, drunk, and his friends egged him on to rape this girl. He wished he could've gone back and changed what he did. Most children's (18 yr olds are children) brains dont fully mature until 25. Really drinking age should be 25, driving a car should be 25, age for joining the military should be 25, and owning a gun should be 25. This is never going to happen, though.
@@jessicaely2521 You are aguing from.a very specific case. Of course what I said would include a thorough evaltuation of the individual case to determine, if tgat person poses.a threat or is likely to be a repeat offender.
4:40 I find it kind of suspicious that information like this about _Germany_ is so hard to find.
I don’t think so. I just think because there are so little cases there isn’t much data. In the almost 20 years they have been implemented in Germany they haven’t even had as many people as 1 year of the USA.
As usual.. I have a different opinion😂 an individual has the option whether or not to commit a crime. So… play stupid games and win stupid prizes IMO
People awaiting trial (people that are innocent until proven guilty) can be forced to wear them.
@@HayleyAlexis That depends on the circumstances. Let’s say someone has been arrested 3 times and found guilty of rape all 3 times. Would it be smart to have that individual wear an ankle monitor if they were arrested for a 4th rape and a judge ordered them released
on bond until the court date came around ?
You are using the worst possible scenario when the majority of people in the jail system are actually non-violent drug offenders. This comment also has nothing to do with my comment, I said- innocent people not people convicted of a crime or becoming repeat offenders.
"Our system is perfect! No innocent person was ever even indicted, much less convicted! No innocent person is imprisoned in the glorious United States of America!"
If some that was innocent is sent to jail, he becomes a trepasser