Pokemon Alt Arts Set to Crash? Will History Repeat Itself
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This is a tough call. On the one hand, these cards are way cooler than SM hits (my opinion). The demand for them seems much higher. On the other hand, they were printed WAY more and there’s still much more product to be opened. I don’t have any duplicates of alt arts so I’m holding them long-term anyways.
1. Like you said, they are cooler in your opinion so that is not a real factor
2. Coolness is not nearly the most relevant factor when it comes to the success of a card; all the current alt arts etc are much cooler than any vintage card, yet vintage is universally loved
3. The demand *seems* higher to you because we are literally in the middle of the SW/SH alt art hype. Last year when these waifu cards seemed unstoppable, nobody took these super modern alt art cards that seriously when it came to investing potential, they were just pretty to look at. You cannot make judgememt on demand literally in the middle of the hype season lol
4. With the amount of PSA10s as the Moonbreon etc has currently, they literally cannot hold their prices when the peak of the hype dies down, which it will the moment there will be another amazing hype set coming. The hobby is simply not big enough yet for 14k PSA10s being too small supply for the demand. Much more desirable and exclusive cards, with much more limited supply have dropped 50% in value during the past couple of years, and if that can happen to them, then these regular cards from regular sets will suffer from the same fate when they are not in the spotlight.
Not to say in the long run they cannot come back up, sure they can if the hobby gets big enough. But currently might be a good selling opportunity to anyone who bought the cards when they were low, and then buy back in when they come down again
I really hope they do go down. Because I’d love to complete my master set. Buying boxes atm is just not reasonable so singles is the only way to go.
what's the idea behind the tag team cards?
Not easy call. Can't hold long term worrying about short term noise. If you need the quick tendies due to overleverage or debt go ahead and sell but don't be surprised to see after reversion to mean to see large price jumps again in future
It’s literally the other way around, you are the one listening to short term noise if you think these alt arts will just keep rising in value; we are literally in the middle of the hype season and people can’t seem to see past that and burn themselves.
Every indicator points to these cards dropping in price once they are not in the hypespotlight, so an actual strategy might be to sell for profit at this point when they are ultra high without any actual reasoning why they should be so high, and then buy back in once the drop comes
So much of sword and shield was hoarded away during the pandemic, meaning so much is left to be opened. Could that have an effect on the prices, maybe? The artwork is better generally in sword and shield but it has been printed more than the sun and moon sets with alternative arts in them. Only time will tell.
The prices will fall over the next couple weeks since they rose so rapidly. But then they’ll steady out and start rising naturally again
Vileplume GX 211 from cosmic is a top 3 artwork from Sun & Moon 🔥
The difference is sword and shield alt arts clear sun and moon by a mile
Jist pulled the mew & mewtwo rainbow from unified minds
Hey Jace. I know you love tcgplayer, but pricecharting has a longer history if you want to see what happened last year (or way long ago). Of course how pricecharting gets its estimates are different, but that is one option if you truly want to compare to the last time it went through a boom.
I will check it out!
With only 1 copy and getting in before the boom…. I mean I kinda bought to make money/invest but I can promise you I’m not gonna cry if I “HAVE TO” keep my gengar, blaziken, giratina, magikarp , chonkachu and machamp alts… 🤷♂️. Pretty sure I can get atleast my initial investment back if I wanted too… but I was/am tempted to sell em for some profit… but kinda not now with them going lower a bit. As long as they don’t crash like 50-75% I’ll be good 😊
Swsh looks better. The sun and moon stuff feels more like Full Arts. Even the latios latias feel like a full art rather than a "alt art" Like the Charizard Vmax is a full art but has a "alt art" look. But true alt arts like Moonbreon just trumps all these sun and moon cards.
That’s just you bias showing. The style of the cards are different and past cards are not -/ flashy as today’s cards, thats for sure. But there is also much less supply of the older cards while they are still very desirable.
The SC/VI alt arts are already rivaling those cards art wise, the hype is just not there in the same way. Once we get the ”Evolving skies” of SC/VI and people start focusing on that, the SW/SH alt arts will be coming down as there is just way too much supply to keep those prices, this hobby is not nearly big enough yet for 10k PSA10s to be ”low supply”, even 3k supply is quite a lot for a pokemon card
Idk.
SwSh artwork is slightly better than SM. And SV artwork is better than SwSh.
Artwork does contribute in a way to pricing. I think SwSh alt art will be ok. Using FS Gengar Vmax alt art as an example. I can't see it dropping back to its 150-180 price in january or whatever month it was.
Artwork contributes little, but not that much. Of course the desirability is high when the card looks beautiful, but if there is 10k PSA10s, the demand just simply can’t overtake that kind of supply for long. Not with the current size of the hobby. And people will realize it that these cards are not rare at all, so there is no reason to pay so much for it when much more desirable and exclusive cards, that have 10x less supply, are in the same price range or only slightly above them.
Perfect example is the Munch Scream Pikachu Promo. Amazing art, actually based on a real world famous painting, pikachu of all pokemon, has an amazing story to it being Japan exclusive promo gotten from Art exhibition during only one week, and has 4 amazing other cards to go together with it. Supply somewhere between 2-3k at the moment, price is moving around 2k right now. And when I bought it few years ago, the price was around 2.5k, supply was like 1k+, and it *still* with all these factors, suddenly started dropping until finally it was only 900$. Gladly it has come back since then but it took time and is still not as high where it was.
Now compare that to something like Moonberon. Just an alt art of a regular set, 14k PSA10s which is 4-5x supply compared to the pikachu, nice art but just random art still, price above 1k, which is more than half of the Munch Promo.
You can quickly see that if over 50% drop can happen to such unique and desirable card with much lower supply, there is absolutely nothing stopping that happening to these modern alt arts once the hype goes down, no matter how nice the art it. The hobby is just not big enough yet.
It repeats sure but the crashing isnt insane crashing sm alts are still super valuable.
Oh for sure! Just be careful if buying at the top
Did you lose on a card? Not if you haven't sold. I get you're reporting the sales but to who? If you are reporting to flippers and sellers then yeah the inventory is going to sit before you make the margin. But if you just want the card now is probably a good time to buy. I think you should describe who you are reporting theses figures to, because you're reporting it like each card is a stock
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Swsh is the best era no doubt but the way people think sealed is going to perform is delusional considering the amount printed and hoarded. PSA 10 alts will be fine imo. I dumped all my sealed 3 weeks ago after doubling up. Decided to go after ponchos
I would take sword and shield boxes over ponchos all day
@@chrispadilla9667I am with ya there 100% because swsh box’s have barely went up in price while ponchos already 100x
Ponchos aint going nowhere
Bad move
@@stanleywilliam2298 yea everyone says that. It’s Reddit and yt hyping everything up. The only reason vintage is expensive is no one cared back in the day and skyridge sat on shelves
I think the opposite not only do I think the moonbreon will surpass first edition base set shadowless charizard but so will a lot of these Alt arts or illustrations rares, there true works of art. Unlike boring basic base set
nope
I so agree with you!! You just can’t bear the swsh alt arts….so far
Lol
Are you delusional?
The Moonbreon will never be a $250,000 psa 10 lol, I would really like it to though as I have one
BRRRRROOOOOOOOO I love this so much so jealous it's not in English
fomo in numbers
First!!