Sola Fide: Justification by Faith Alone (Five Solas)
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This is the first of a series of lectures on the five solas of the Reformation. Here, I discuss the doctrine of justification in its Reformation context.
“We’re not saved by the perfection of our faith; we’re saved by the perfection of Christ.” 🔥
Perfectly said. It's why I get upset when a lot of protestants, usually baptists and/or reformed Christians try to put a measurement on faith. Saying things like "If you don't put your FULL faith in Christ you're not saved" Or "If your faith isn't ONLY in Christ you're not saved" and use this logic to say that Catholics or Orthodox Christians aren't saved. I do believe in Faith Alone, but the Bible says that even a mustard seed of faith can move mountains. So while theologically, I disagree with the idea that our works are something we do in order for Christ to save us, they still Believe that Christ is the one who saves, and that he Died and was resurrected. Even if they think that they must do something more than just ask in order for Christ to save us, that doesn't undo their faith. As far as I'm aware, and anyone can feel free to correct me if I've missed it, but I can't think of any passage that indicates that adding to faith, will subsequently invalidate that faith. Adding is theologically incorrect but subtracting is where it becomes restrictive to salvation. To say that we must have "Full" faith is essentially saying we need "perfect" faith. Which ironically is in itself works based salvation. It's the work of perfection, and the work of good theology. Faith alone, means faith alone in Christ, but many people turn it into faith in our faith. And that's where I have to disagree.
Your own Scriptures claim the former.
It's good reading 2 Peter 1:5-11 to know what we must add to faith. Scripture only speaks once about whether we are justified by "faith alone", and that text denies it: "NOT BY FAITH ALONE" James 2:24. Adding the word "alone" makes many people conflate our own works and God's works ( really good works) so you believe faith alone , without love, justifies. Don't do that. . Every "good work" has as it's origination the grace of God. Every good thing we have and do comes to us as a gift from God.Please, read what Paul really teaches: " and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing" . That is what Paul says and if you contradict that, you're contradicting an Apostle of God. Don't do that. You're warned now.
Could you make a reply to "Why I'm not Lutheran (updated) - KingdomCraft" by Redeemed Zoomer? He talks about contradictions and problems he believes in Lutheranism. I would love to hear your thoughts and your "arguments" on his points.
I recognize the voice of the last questioner. 'Truth Unto Godliness' is his UA-cam channel. Good talk Dr. Cooper.
The catholic church has a lot of beauty and history, formality and reverence,which is alluring , I just can’t get over the idolatry, I saw the pope on tv kissing a statue and giving it reverence.
Yes, you're right. It is akin to idolatry at all.
“In faith we together hold the conviction that justification is the work of the triune God. The Father sent his Son into the world to save sinners. The foundation and presupposition of justification is the incarnation, death, and resurrection of Christ. Justification thus means that Christ himself is our righteousness, in which we share through the Holy Spirit in accord with the will of the Father. Together we confess: By grace alone, in faith in Christ’s saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping and calling us to good works.” (Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification, 15; Issued by the Catholic Church and Lutheran World Federation, joined by World Methodist Counsel)
Not every single Lutheran signed the JDDJ, we must know that no Protestant is bound by any council but by SOLA ( my private interpretation of ) Scriptura., besides "The JDDJ claimed to have formulated a new consensus position that managed to avoid both the condemnations of the Council of Trent on evangelical theology, and those of the Lutheran Confessions on Roman Catholic theology. Yet when the Roman Catholic Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity made an official response to the Declaration on behalf of the Church, they felt the need to make some important clarifications. ‘The Catholic Church,’ stated the Response, ‘cannot yet speak of a consensus such as would eliminate every difference between Catholics and Lutherans in the understanding of justification. Indeed, some of ‘these differences concern aspects of substance’ so significant they must ‘be overcome before we can affirm, as is done generically in n.41, that these points no longer incur the condemnations of the Council of Trent.’" Response , clarification 5
In particular, the Response made it clear that evangelical language describing believers being at the same time righteous and sinner is UNACCEPTABLE to the Roman Catholic Church. It
remains difficult to see how, in the current state of the presentation, given in the Joint Declaration, we can say that this doctrine on “simul iustus et peccator” is not touched by the anathemas of the Tridentine decree on original sin and justification.
Where Protestantism views justification as a divine declarative act whereby God pronounces the sinner righteous in Christ, the Catholic Church still sees justification as an ongoing, transformative and cooperative process.
Totally random, but can you do a video that talks about your thoughts on church small groups or life-groups? Are you for them? Are you in one?
The idea that Augustine misunderstood justification because the Vulgate mistranslated the Greek word meaning justification in a transformative way never really made sense for several reasons:
1) Augustine gained a decent knowledge of Greek over the course of his life and in many of his later writings he often discusses the meaning of Greek words and various ways to translate them.
2) The person who translated the Vulgate was Jerome, who was no mean scholar and had a great knowledge of Ancient Greek, even knowing people who spoke it natively unlike any modern Biblical scholar.
3) It's not like the Latin translation is completely distorting. If the Bible is perspicuous it seems to me that mistranslating a single word wouldn't overwhelm the overall testimony of Scripture. Indeed, even you think Augustine was correct and Jerome was wrong on works of the law even though Jerome had a far greater grasp of Greek than Augustine did.
4) It's not like Augustine developed his theology by sitting under a tree reading the Vulgate by himself. He was catechized in the faith by Ambrose who would have made sure to pass on the correct doctrine concerning such an important issue.
You rightly make the point that we should not commit the word-concept fallacy when reading patristic writers. In general, you are pretty good at avoiding this. That's why I was surprised when you brought up Thomas Aquinas using the phrase 'faith alone' as if it constituted proof of anything since he definitely didn't have a Lutheran understanding of justification. There's nothing in Aquinas about a forensic imputation of Christ's obedience or faith serving as an instrumental cause of justification.
Best response . Thanks
Yes, the absolute most problematic part of the claim that Augustine misunderstood the Greek is the plain fact that half of the Church Fathers were in the East and Greek was their primary language. This means the Greek Fathers should have been very clear that justify in Greek only means "declare", but the reality is none of the native Greek speaking Fathers ever said it means "declare" and instead they all held to "make righteous". This means it is quite embarrassing for any scholar to say Augustine invented this.
God bless you!
Dr.Cooper,if possible could the Just and Sinner Publications please publish Lutheran Service Book Guitar chord edition.CPH price of the ebook version of the same is high.Thank you.
However Cooper has a video for each of the ;five solas.
I was also the first view: at the time of watching, there was only one view.
And why are you bragging about this?
@@theodosios2615Because he can
@@theodosios2615Because it’s cool
@@theodosios2615 It is a great accomplishment and it demonstrates my superiority skill in being the first viewer (an extremely valuable and important skill).
Can you do a program on how to stay strong in the Holy Spirit?
Word, Water, Bread, Wine.
Go to church. Study the Word.
Ok thanks 👍
29:28 This is a common misconception. The time in indulgences is about penance the indulgence is equivalent to. Not length of time in Purgatory.
is it a misconception? We have many, many direct examples of quotes from the medieval age stating that indulgences lessen purgatory.
@@charliecampbell6851You misunderstand. It is not the lessening of purgatory that is the misconception. It is the particular indulgences lessening purgatory by exact times, e.g. an indulgence that reads 1 year, does not mean 1 year less of purgatory, it means equivalent to one year of penance.
Wasn't that Potamopotos question at the end?😅
Was that last question from another Lutheran UA-camr?
Certainly sounds like Truth Unto Godliness
WHAT IS YOUR FAITH?CAN YOU GIVE AT THE ORTHODOXY A WRITEN TEXT OF THE FAITH THAT YOU BELIEVE?WHEN THE SON OF MAN COME BACK HE FIND THE FAITH ON EARTH?
Bing chilling
Everything has to be read in the light of the Apostle Paul's doctrine on justification.
"And though I have ALL FAITH, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." 1 Cor. 13:2; "If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha." 1 Cor.. 16:22; " Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS?" Rom. 6:16. Paul teaches that faith, before or apart love of God, is not Christian faith.
@@Alfredo8059
I wasn't talking about Hindu faith. I was talking about Christian faith. It's impossible to have Christian faith without love. Also, it's not love that earns mercy. It's only faith that receives mercy through Christ. If it's anything but faith, it's a wage, but it's a gift.
@@ro6ti , I wasn't talking about our own "love". faith without love (charity) is nothing ( 1Cor. 13:2). Charity isn't our work but God's work in us, created in us by the Holy Spirit, so that justification is through faith without OUR works. Martin Luther added the word "alone" obscuring the reality that faith before or apart receiving charity is nothing. It's impossible to have Christian faith without love, it's impossible to be righteous before receiving charity . "You must receive the love of God to believe God so loved the world ( Jn 6:29).
@@Alfredo8059
No, adding the word "alone" means apart from works. That is what Paul says and if you contradict that, you're contradicting an Apostle of God. Don't do that. You're warned now.
@@ro6ti , Scripture only speaks once about whether we are justified by "faith alone", and that text denies it: "NOT BY FAITH ALONE" James 2:24. Adding the word "alone" makes many people conflate our own works and God's works ( really good works) so you believe faith alone , without love, justifies. Don't do that. . Every "good work" has as it's origination the grace of God. Every good thing we have and do comes to us as a gift from God.Please, read what Paul really teaches: " and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing" . That is what Paul says and if you contradict that, you're contradicting an Apostle of God. Don't do that. You're warned now.
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Watch the UA-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
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Where exactly in the Bible does it say to listen to scholars who make a living by talking about the Bible, and that in line with the existing system and modern power structure?
If someone gets converted, regenerated through the preaching of the word
Why would they need to be regenerated again twice by water baptism if the spirit comes through water baptism?
That makes no sense
Preaching of the word doesn't regenerate you. But maybe re-phrasing the question would make it easier to answer.
@@Jordan-th3pr maybe define what you mean by regeneration.
Do you make a distinction between conversion and regeneration?
Reformed tradition places conversion at the initial time of one's belief, repentance in faith the order solutis.
And yes there are many scriptures in the New testament that talks about the New birth being a result of the preaching of the word of God starting at least at the day of Pentecost Acts chapter 2 and many other references in the New testament the word of God preached, New birth spiritually is brought to the elect of God
@@genol.depello7274 Yes one converts by hearing the word of God Romans 10 but one doesn't become regenerated until by faith and repentance one is baptized Titus 3:5, Acts 2:38, 22:16
Also by regeneration I mean in a right relationship with God, having sins forgiven.
Being regenerated also is the moment of imputation of Christ's righteousness on the person.
So when you're understanding is converted through the word of God. Is the spirit doing the converting the Holy Spirit? Or is it just a mental assent without the work of the holy spirit that one becomes converted?
@@genol.depello7274 The spirit of God moves your heart with faith to bring you to the means of grace. Essentially Grace alone. Mental assent doesn't do anything, but the heart believing by faith is what moves salvation, thus making it faith alone. Grace alone through faith alone. Atleast that's what I believe the scriptures teach along with the Lutheran confessions. I didn't go to college or seminary.
Purgatory is not about paying a debt. Sin damages the soul. Even if it is forgiven, the soul is imperfect to enter heaven. Purgatory is a final purification of the soul before entrance into heaven.
In the words "faith alone" Martin Luther added the word "alone".
Luther began to have thoughts of being tortured, because he was worried if he confessed all of his sins or not. He became more paranoid and the doctrine of Purgatory really obsessed him, That's why he had to remove it from the Bible.
Athanasius also added the word alone. So he changed the bible?
@@jenex5608 ,Athanasius definitely didn't have a Lutheran understanding of justification. There's nothing in Athanasius about a forensic imputation of Christ's obedience or faith serving as an instrumental cause of justification. Luther conflated Luther's sola fide and Abraham's (obedient) sola fide. Luther's faith alone excludes love (agape) from the justifying equation, Athanasius faith alone does not exclude love (agape) from justification: "and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." 1 Cor. 13:2; " If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha." 1 Cor. 16:22. For Athanasius justifying faith is an act of love, for Luther it is not.
"and though I have ALL FAITH, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." 1 Cor. 13:2; "If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha." 1 Cor.. 16:22; " Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS?" Rom. 6:16. Paul teaches that faith, before or apart love of God, is not Christian faith.
Can we agree to just stop using terms that have to be qualified into incoherence?
no
@@StoicHippy Then I guess I'll just have to keep accusing the Lutherans of intellectual dishonesty.
@@Catholic-Perennialist aight
@@StoicHippy Lutherans are intellectually dishonest and don't even believe the things they say.
False doctrine. NT books are full of references to works. Excerpts from the Book of Revelation only... enjoy.!
(Rev 2, 5) Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and DO THE FIRST WORKS...
(Rev 2, 19) I know your WORKS, love, service, faith, and your patience; and AS FOR YOUR WORKS, the last are more than the first.
(Rev 2, 23) ...And I will give to each one of you ACCORDING TO YOUR WORKS.
(Rev 2, 26) And he who overcomes, and KEEPS MY WORKS until the end, to him I will give power over the nations
(Rev 3, 8) I know your WORKS...
(Rev 14, 13) ...that they may rest from their labors, and THEIR WORKS follow them.
(Rev 20, 12) ...And the dead were judged ACCORDING TO THEIR WORKS...
(Rev 20, 13) ...And they were judged, each one ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS.
Only the Catholic Church is the true Church
Catholic as in universal? Sure.
But of course, eastern Orthodox says the same thing though. Either your both wrong or your both right.. I believe your both wrong
Which one?
All these churches and denominations all claiming to have the truth, the Spirit, each saying the other is wrong, heretical ,yet can’t agree, they are not one as the father and Christ are one.
Makes me wonder. They all claim to be right and that the other is wrong, some leave the catholic and become Protestant, others leave the Pentecostal and become reformed, the reformed become baptists.
This can’t be what God intended. How can a layman know he stands on the truth and is building on the rock. If the professionals can’t even agree?
James 2 is the death knell for the Protestant. I'm being serious here. Luther knew this. Thus, he attempted to discredit James as an "epistle of straw." Those are facts. As a Protestant I used to argue that "James didn't mean it that way", and twisted the Scripture beyond its plain meaning to justify JBFA. The answer? Stop doing that, and believe what it says...and become Catholic. Or at the very least, leave Protestantism - and all its various splinters - behind. The subtext behind the Protestantization of the NT - and its accompanying JBFA - lies with a fundamental misunderstanding about "works of the law." This has been treated in various Catholic resources so I won't go into detail here in the comment section. As a former Lutheran, I used to follow Dr Cooper closely and respect his scholarship and his attempts to defend Protestant presuppositions and teachings. He is also a very good guy, and there's not a mean bone in his body. As an RCIA-in-process Catholic, I would strive to become more gentle in my ways and be more like him. I do feel his arguments are sophist-like in certain areas. The first thing a truth-seeker must have is an open mind that you and that one can be wrong. That mindset will take us a long way towards knowing whether we are justified by a forensic faith alone, without reference to time and activity, or whether we are active participants in it throughout our lives , bringing it to fruition in cooperation with Christ's grace. I realize that, as a former Lutheran, they believe many of these concepts in toto, but the order and ermphases are very different. Lastly, I would add that if the early church fathers of any stripe really believed in faith alone, where was the accompanying outcry (which one would expect) about the Church and its (Roman) Catholic teachings on every other dogma? This is an argument from silence, sure - but a very strong one. All respect to Dr Cooper for his Godly approach to this subject.
Confessianl lutherans are catholic. Just not Roman.
Lutherans are to do good works but all your good works are nothing if Jesus didn't save us through his Grace.