An Introduction to Lutheranism (Just and Sinner Essentials)

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
  • Our website: www.justandsinner.org
    This is the first video in a new series titled "Just and Sinner Essentials." This is a historical and theological introduction to Lutheranism.

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  • @angelbonilla4243
    @angelbonilla4243 8 місяців тому +25

    Raised Pentecostal and still somehow a Charismatic but now a I serve God in a Lutheran Church. In my view, Lutheranism is by far the most underrated orthodox Christian theological tradition. Those who are more intellectual inclined and are thinking to become Calvinists or Roman Catholics, make sure to take a look at the Evangelical Lutheran Faith and Piety before becoming Calvinists or RCs. Anyway, God Bless all Christians brothers and sisters.

    • @BibleLovingLutheran
      @BibleLovingLutheran 7 місяців тому +5

      Evangelical, not to be confused with the ELCA of course. 👌🏻

    • @aussierob7177
      @aussierob7177 4 місяці тому +1

      The beauty of being a Catholic is there is no need to keep swapping 'churches" to find something better or different.

  • @jonathanrocha2275
    @jonathanrocha2275 8 місяців тому +16

    This is perfect, as I’m currently considering switching to a Lutheran church

  • @paulboerin173
    @paulboerin173 8 місяців тому +56

    Thank you for these videos. I am currently going through catechises at a local LCMS church, and have been learning a lot. Although, I must admit, that Orthodoxy really itches at my heart and mind. I look forward to the journey ahead, wherever it may lead. But, we must always put Jesus Christ above all. God bless you, Dr Cooper✝️

    • @javierperd2604
      @javierperd2604 8 місяців тому

      You might find it helpful to check out this playlist for some testimonies by Lutherans who considered becoming Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox but then decided to remain Lutheran:
      ua-cam.com/play/PLjjcmFjyDP07M9triiyeMwyiorTvRdVh4.html&si=cAd-sCXCAfwD1JLK
      Hope it helps!

    • @libertyprime8228
      @libertyprime8228 8 місяців тому +11

      There is a lot that I love about EO as well, but I just can't get past their excessive Mariology. For me, it seems to border on idolatry. No one is to be exalted above Christ and no one is to be considered His equal in practice either.

    • @dekatus7746
      @dekatus7746 8 місяців тому +21

      It is a canon event for every lutheran to fall in love for eastern orthodoxy, my friend. You should watch dr. Cooper's programs on their theology tho, might clarify some issues, especially the one about the filioque

    • @Catholic-Perennialist
      @Catholic-Perennialist 8 місяців тому +2

      The itch will remain until you scratch it.
      You'll never be fulfilled by LARPing.

    • @doubtingthomas9117
      @doubtingthomas9117 8 місяців тому +10

      I hear you. About 17-18 years ago I was enamored with Eastern Orthodoxy for a time and was briefly a catechumen. However for a few reasons I ultimately couldn’t swim the Bosphorus and became a traditional Anglican instead.

  • @restedassurance
    @restedassurance 8 місяців тому +20

    Looking forward to the video relaying Lutheran theological basics. Not only for those who want to learn but also for those of us already knowledged; you can never have God's truths drilled into your mind too much.
    Appreciate all you do. :)

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 8 місяців тому

      Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
      In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
      But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
      This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
      This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
      .
      :)

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 8 місяців тому +1

      And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
      “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
      Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
      -Acts 3:19
      :)

  • @ChristianTravelers
    @ChristianTravelers 8 місяців тому +13

    Thank You for mentioning the most conservative Lutherans, the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) and, yes, you were right, the Evangelical Lutheran Synod (ELS). A lot of times they get skipped, although we very much endorse your teaching and Missouri Synod's Pastor Bryan Wolfmueller.

    • @rubixcubesolve
      @rubixcubesolve 7 місяців тому +2

      Where’s can I learn more about WELS in particular?

  • @sierragrey7910
    @sierragrey7910 8 місяців тому +14

    Very helpful, thank you. As one who is by your definition, moderately Reformed, it’s good to better understand how Lutherans view themselves and why. You rightly presented the Reformed position and the Regulative Principle.

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 8 місяців тому

      And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
      “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
      Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
      -Acts 3:19
      :)

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 8 місяців тому

      Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
      In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
      But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
      This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
      This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
      .
      :)

  • @CafeSola
    @CafeSola 8 місяців тому +8

    Luther movie was 2003.
    Thank you for your faithfulness to conservative reformation!

  • @LucasCLarson
    @LucasCLarson 8 місяців тому +6

    Great video. This is the best summary I’ve encountered, including from sources like the LCMS and Concordia Publishing House. I’m excited for more.

  • @alexgonzalez631
    @alexgonzalez631 7 місяців тому +2

    I find myself understanding the Bible a lot like how Lutherans do. Thank you for your ministry. May the Lord keep using it.

  • @doubtingthomas9117
    @doubtingthomas9117 8 місяців тому +2

    Great video, Dr Cooper-I’m looking forward to the next part.

  • @toilet_cleaner_man
    @toilet_cleaner_man 8 місяців тому +4

    "You don't get to say "I'm a Lutheran" and then disagree with half the things in the Augsburg Confession... ...By name that just doesn't fit, you're something else. You're Anglican, because they don't have... (realizes what he's saying, can't stop the train anymore) ...y'know, clear enough doctrinal statements." What a polite shot to the heart. Only Dr. Cooper, ladies and gentlemen.

  • @CanadianAnglican
    @CanadianAnglican 7 місяців тому +1

    I love your videos. They always teach me a lot about the different groups. You truly are a blessing. Thank you Dr.Cooper.

  • @quinnhunt6124
    @quinnhunt6124 8 місяців тому

    This was very good, looking forward to the rest of the series

  • @javierperd2604
    @javierperd2604 8 місяців тому +2

    Yet another great video, Dr. Cooper 👏
    As someone who is looking into Lutheranism myself, I'm really looking forward to this series!!!

    • @javierperd2604
      @javierperd2604 Місяць тому

      @Chris-wf6km Do papists ever tire of producing out-of-context citations of Luther as lazy ad hominems?
      Here is the context of the quote: beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2011/09/luther-i-shall-not-have-my-teaching.html

  • @intheschoolofgodandnature
    @intheschoolofgodandnature 8 місяців тому +2

    I thank you for these videos...I'm continually reminded that there has been a lot of development in the RC church...it isn't the constant I'd seen it to be. Even if I swim the Tiber, it will be w eyes more open. Probably the best, most balanced channel out there.

  • @jameschandlerfots
    @jameschandlerfots 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for the information! I am looking into Lutheranism at the moment so this was helpful.

  • @timklawon2973
    @timklawon2973 17 днів тому

    Thank you for another great informative video! You could definitely be #7 on that list or maybe even #2! Thanks again!

  • @johnnylollard7892
    @johnnylollard7892 8 місяців тому +4

    What's interesting about Luther is that most Protestant denominations will adopt him as part of their traditions, in some subtle way. Even if it's historically incongruent.
    This is anecdotal, but I've hardly met many conservative Lutherans compared to Baptists and Presbyterians. Not a surprise, since Baptists seem to be the largest Protestant group in the USA, and most nondenom places are Baptists by another name. Yet, Luther exerts a bigger voice in these circles than many of their original leaders. I doubt most Baptists could tell you who the first Baptist pastor was, short of an absurd answer like "John the Baptist," but they'll have heard of Luther and maybe Calvin.

  • @charlenesims9063
    @charlenesims9063 8 місяців тому

    this was very helpful and informative.

  • @ConnorLundeen
    @ConnorLundeen 8 місяців тому

    love the extended intro.

  • @Alden99669
    @Alden99669 8 місяців тому

    Perhaps your best video.

  • @brettk1517
    @brettk1517 8 місяців тому

    Great job! God bless.

  • @heltonlima1111
    @heltonlima1111 8 місяців тому +2

    We need something like this in Brazil.

  • @Outrider74
    @Outrider74 8 місяців тому +3

    An excellent video, and one I will recommend, but I was surprised you did not speak of Luther’s “tower conversion” which led to the rediscovery of sola fide. I know there is debate as to when it actually happened, but it seems to coincide with or shortly after 1517

    • @DrJordanBCooper
      @DrJordanBCooper  8 місяців тому +1

      I probably should have. There's so much debate about this that I was hesitant to address it.

  • @apostolicclips
    @apostolicclips 7 місяців тому +1

    I’d like to learn more about the way the papacy went broke with reckless spending, as referenced at the 29:30 mark. Are there any videos, articles, blogs, books, etc that you could recommend please?

  • @R-D-C
    @R-D-C 8 місяців тому +1

    Could you do a video on the smalcald articles and "Semper virgo"?

  • @charlesodonnell2993
    @charlesodonnell2993 3 місяці тому

    Lutheranism is fascinating. Thank you.

  • @yunusemre550
    @yunusemre550 8 місяців тому

    In light of your extensive knowledge in theology and your dedication to exploring different aspects of spirituality, I was curious to learn if you have ever delved into the Quran during your academic and spiritual journey.

  • @redknightsr69
    @redknightsr69 8 місяців тому

    Are the liturgies in your denomination similar to the LCMS? It's kind of hard to find the stuff out when I live hundreds of miles from an AALC church. There's not much on the internet either.

  • @cleatherrington4615
    @cleatherrington4615 8 місяців тому +3

    More. MORE!!

  • @dampfmaschine875
    @dampfmaschine875 5 місяців тому

    Somebody got a link to the intro music, please?

  • @rubixcubesolve
    @rubixcubesolve 7 місяців тому +1

    When is the 1 hour video on theology coming out as promised? Looks like many other videos have come out since, including a 1 hour video on roman catholic enlightenment, but no video on Lutheran core theology basics.

    • @DrJordanBCooper
      @DrJordanBCooper  7 місяців тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/H-7EogW_c0I/v-deo.htmlsi=T480fMGC7lSEbKDd

    • @rubixcubesolve
      @rubixcubesolve 7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you and God Bless. @@DrJordanBCooper

  • @franciseenc
    @franciseenc 3 місяці тому

    Hello! What book(s) are you referring to in 29:37 by “some histories of the papacy"?

  • @Blakefan2520
    @Blakefan2520 8 місяців тому +1

    My wife and I currently attend a LCMS church. We have spent most of our lives in Reformed/Presbyterian churches. Why don't lutheran churches have both Elders and Deacons in every congregation? My understanding is that the LCMS does not have male Deacons. Most if not all Deacons in the LCMS are women, and I don't understand the biblical support for this. I understand there may be some biblical support for female deacons. I wonder why males are excluded from the office of Deacon in Lutheran Churches (at least in the LCMS)?

  • @andya7012
    @andya7012 8 місяців тому +1

    “Dogmatic! It’s fun” T-shirt on the next merch drop

  • @RTHenry83
    @RTHenry83 7 місяців тому +1

    Where are the Baptist not mentioned?

    • @RTHenry83
      @RTHenry83 7 місяців тому

      Or Methodists?

  • @nute742
    @nute742 8 місяців тому

    Great Video on Lutheranism, and interesting subject matter.
    So "Big Question" here: So which church (in your opinion) is the "One true church" (as intended by Christ) after he died as was resurrected? Was it the (A) Catholic Church, which formed 100s of years after the death of his apostles? or (B) A "breakoff" of the catholic church in the reformation (lutheranism, etc)? or even (C) A "restorative church"? or (D) no need for any organized church (as long as one has the bible and follows it more or less)?

  • @tiagovazkez9356
    @tiagovazkez9356 23 дні тому

    What is conor mcgregor doing teaching lutheranism

  • @1920s
    @1920s 8 місяців тому +1

    Is that highlights in yo hair?

  • @Dilley_G45
    @Dilley_G45 8 місяців тому +3

    Nice

  • @stevekohl5351
    @stevekohl5351 Місяць тому

    Now is this speaker an ELCA member of an LCMS member?

    • @TheMendenhallen
      @TheMendenhallen День тому

      Neither, he's AALC. But they're in fellowship with LCMS.

    • @stevekohl5351
      @stevekohl5351 День тому

      @@TheMendenhallen What did you mean by "But"? I belong to an ELCA Lutheran church.

  • @RichardFrerks
    @RichardFrerks 8 місяців тому +2

    Thanks Dr. Cooper. 🍞 🍷 They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

  • @justfromcatholic
    @justfromcatholic 8 місяців тому

    1. Can you point out from any official teaching of the Catholic Church that Catholics are required to confess every single sin they did? I left the Catholic Church for years, returned and went to Confession. When I told the priest that it was impossible for me to remember all past sins of those years, he told me those sins can still be forgiven as long I had contrite heart.
    2. According to 1 John 5:16-17 there are deadly (or mortal) and non-deadly (or venial) sins - that teaching did not originate from medieval theology as you claimed in the video.
    3. Why the Catholic Church still teaches penance (to which indulgences are related) to this day and why the Reformers reject it?
    Eze. 33:13-16 says (ESV): “Though I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, yet if he trusts in his righteousness and does injustice, none of his righteous deeds shall be remembered, but in his injustice that he has done he shall die. Again though I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ yet if he turns from his sin and does what is just and right, if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has taken by robbery, and walks in the statutes of life, not doing injustice, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the sins that he has committed shall be remembered against him. He has done what is just and right; he shall surely live.”
    Verse 13 says that the righteous will die when he sins. In contrast Luther taught believer can be both just/righteous (externally) and sinner (internally) at the same time, in Latin simul iustus et peccator (the title of the series you are presenting). According to verses 14 to 16, a sinner must (1) turn from his sin (or repent) and (2) do what is just and right (known as penance in Catholicism), to be back in life or regain his state of grace (in Catholic terminology). In contrast the Reformers taught that through faith alone all your sins (past, present, and future) are imputed on Christ who was already punished to pay the penalty of those sins on the cross. If that is the case, then there is no need of penance - no penance means no purgatory, and no indulgences. Your sins will be covered by perfect righteousness of Christ - even God the Father won’t be able (or pretend not) to see them.
    4. According to Scripture it is righteousness that delivers from death (Pro. 10:2, 11:4). Whoever is steadfast in righteousness will live (Pro. 11:19). In the path of righteousness is life, and in its pathway there is no death (Pro. 12:28). Jesus said in Mat. 25:46 that the righteous shall go to eternal life. Scripture does not teach two kind of righteousness. In Gen. 15:6 what was counted (Hebrew verb חָשַׁב, Strong H2803) to Abraham for righteousness is faith. But what was counted (the same verb חָשַׁב) for righteousness to Phinehas in Psalms 106:31 was not faith but what he did as described in verse 30 (in more detail in Num. 25:7-8).

  • @rconger24
    @rconger24 8 місяців тому

    What is the difference between Luthernism and Calvinism?

    • @Catholic-Perennialist
      @Catholic-Perennialist 8 місяців тому +1

      Aesthetics, mainly. They're both soteriological determinists.
      The Lutherans play word games, while the Calvinists worship their own intellect.
      They dislike each other almost as much as they dislike catholics.

    • @johnnywatson4914
      @johnnywatson4914 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Catholic-Perennialistno... This is nowhere close to accurate. You clearly haven't done any first hand research.
      We have major differences in respect to the sacraments, sola fide, and liturgy. Also in respect to how we approach predestination.
      Dr. Cooper has a bunch of videos on the differences. Here on UA-cam. Just search for him and "Lutheran and Reformed differences." 😊

    • @Catholic-Perennialist
      @Catholic-Perennialist 8 місяців тому

      @@johnnywatson4914 A generalization will never satisfy your longing for accuracy.
      But in an age when you can easily find a rainbow affirming female lutheran pastrix who practices open communion, you don't really have the standing to demand nuance from me.
      Clean your own house.

    • @shareyourfate3903
      @shareyourfate3903 8 місяців тому +2

      I would suggest a cleaning of your heart with that type of disdained assertion. God bless you-

    • @Catholic-Perennialist
      @Catholic-Perennialist 8 місяців тому

      @@shareyourfate3903 I already cleaned it out with 🥃 Scotch.

  • @cinnamondan4984
    @cinnamondan4984 8 місяців тому

    I wish we Mormons didn’t drop out moniker. A few years ago we decided that Mormon cannot be used to describe us…and I’ve never really got on board. We should learn from the Lutherans.

  • @richtofu8665
    @richtofu8665 8 місяців тому +1

    How do i know you are correct and not the thousands if protestant denominationS ? ( orthodox btw )

    • @Athabrose
      @Athabrose 8 місяців тому +3

      How do I know your Orthodox tradition is correct and not the others? Constantinople or Moscow? ROCOR or OCA or should I go Oriental or Old calendarist? And for the record there are not thousands of Protestant denoms this is a tired claim long put to bed that is no longer applicable to the current conversation. Catholic and Orthodox scholars have long dismissed the “thousands of prot denominations” claim. You’re just out of touch or maybe new to all this.

    • @richtofu8665
      @richtofu8665 8 місяців тому

      @@Athabrose well obviously i was exaggerating there are only couple dozen my bad. And all of those orthodox churches are all in agreement except orientals and maybe a few other microscopic branches im not aware of. The reason there are multiple churches is bc ppl from different countries have different languages, customs and aesthetics especially in the east shocking info ik. So youd probably join the one that speaks your language and is in your country. Also They dont really make vastly contrictary claims like calvinists believing in no free will or methodists being ok with blessing gay marriage or weird flamboyant stuff like the Pentecostals. Christianity to Protestants is whatever the reader decides. church numbers have been dropping like flies ever since people got an internet connection. Easy to see why. I grew up Protestant btw baptist mostly.

    • @ro6ti
      @ro6ti 8 місяців тому +2

      @@richtofu8665
      How does one know anything? We have to search the Scriptures, use reason, consider history, and pray for help.

    • @richtofu8665
      @richtofu8665 8 місяців тому

      @@ro6ti that is why christ gave us the church. If all of us have our own interpretation of the bible, then there is no true interpretation.

    • @ro6ti
      @ro6ti 8 місяців тому +1

      @@richtofu8665
      You can't even conclude that without attempting to use reason. And, there are several branches who claim to be what you're saying. Don't let them gaslight your brain, bro.

  • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
    @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 8 місяців тому +1

    And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
    “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
    Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
    -Acts 3:19
    :)
    :)

    • @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool
      @PeterMartyrVermigli_is_cool 8 місяців тому +1

      Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
      In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
      But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
      This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
      This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
      .
      .

  • @BalaamsAss51
    @BalaamsAss51 8 місяців тому

    Luther vowed to become "religious" which was either a monk or a friar. The Augustinians are friars, not monks. Please stop spreading this popular misconception.

  • @andrewferg8737
    @andrewferg8737 8 місяців тому

    Just a thought: If catholicism was so contrary to the Gospel then how did catholic Luther ever learn the Gospel?
    "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem... For the sake of my brothers and friends, I will say, Peace be within you" (Psalm 122)
    Peace be with you.

  • @qwerty-so6ml
    @qwerty-so6ml 8 місяців тому

    Only one Gospel:
    The Gospel of Reconciliation.
    Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
    to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
    We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
    If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
    Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM (god).

  • @Edward-ng8oo
    @Edward-ng8oo 8 місяців тому +1

    With regards to the name Lutheran this was an accurate name for those who were originally in agreement with Luther, but after his death the teaching began to change until in the 1580’s with the Formula of Concord what Luther had taught on predestination was completely rejected. Luther in The Bondage of the Will had maintained that God has predestined everything that happens including who is to be saved and who damned, and he had denied that the Holy Spirit works universally through the Gospel. The FC though rejected this and denied that God has predestined anyone to hell, and maintained that the Holy Spirit operates universally through the Gospel. Since predestination is such an important issue it follows therefore that those who agree with the FC aren't in reality Lutherans but rather followers of the chief architect of the FC who was Martin Chemnitz.
    I'm in agreement with Luther that the Scriptures teach double predestination, and therefore I hold that Chemnitz taught false doctrine. Also along with Luther I hold that false doctrine is destructive of faith, and that the Holy Spirit doesn't allow Christians to believe false doctrine with the exception of those who are ill-informed but who are open to correction. How many so-called Lutherans however are open to correction is a difficult question because the official line is that double predestination is a Calvinist error which shouldn't be tolerated, so I imagine there's only a minority who will be open to admitting that they're wrong and who would accept that God does predestine people to be damned.

  • @Yaas_ok123
    @Yaas_ok123 8 місяців тому +2

    Augustine changed christianity and brought new doctrines from pagan philosophies. Proof: Cambridge historian Ali Bonner's interview with Idol killer and Soteriology101. Church historian Gerald Bray: "It is virtually an axiom of historian theology that the doctrine of original sin, as we recognize it today, cannot be traced back beyond Augustine." Ken Wilson proved Augustine's thought roots coming from pagan heresies. Book: The foundation of augustinian-calvinism.

    • @DrJordanBCooper
      @DrJordanBCooper  8 місяців тому +9

      No.

    • @johnnywatson4914
      @johnnywatson4914 8 місяців тому

      Get out LOL

    • @Yaas_ok123
      @Yaas_ok123 8 місяців тому +1

      @@johnnywatson4914 We often assume that all famous one's were good gays....nope. Many more quiet good gays, like Pelagius and Hubmaier, were run over or killed by famous "bullies".

    • @DrGero15
      @DrGero15 Місяць тому +1

      Where did Gerald Bray say that?

    • @Yaas_ok123
      @Yaas_ok123 Місяць тому +1

      @@DrGero15 Gerald Bray: "Original sin in patristic thought", Churchman 118.1 (1994): 37. That was taken Adam Harwood's Christian theology,subnote, p.374 (free in Logos).

  • @charliek2557
    @charliek2557 8 місяців тому

    “We were forced”…. Hmmm

  • @fantasia55
    @fantasia55 8 місяців тому

    Luther said reason is the Devil’s whore, yet this Lutheran preacher is attempting to use reason.

    • @StandardofChrist
      @StandardofChrist 8 місяців тому +1

      That doesn’t mean Luther didn’t believe in reason. Reason and intellect when not renewed by the Word and Spirit can be corrupted. God gave us reason. But if you reject God, your reason just becomes vain philosophy.
      Isaiah 1:18Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 8 місяців тому

      @Nicholas-oe7qm That's not what Luther said. Luther also said using reason was witchcraft. He was a lunatic.

    • @Edward-ng8oo
      @Edward-ng8oo 8 місяців тому +2

      Luther referred to reason in two different senses. When he said that reason is the Devil’s whore he was referring to unregenerate people’s common sense rejection of Christian doctrine. For instance if one was to evaluate Christianity according to one's common sense one would likely reject that Jesus was the Son of God and that he came back to life after his death. However when it comes to logical reasoning on the basis of Biblical teaching then Luther employed reason to its fullest extent.

    • @fantasia55
      @fantasia55 8 місяців тому

      @Edward-ng8oo Luther believed that everything that entered his mind had been inspired by the Holy Spirit, so logic was to him, demonic.

  • @aussierob7177
    @aussierob7177 4 місяці тому

    Lutheranism.....A follower of Luther ?
    Sacred Scripture in its written form, (Bible) and in its oral form (Sacred Tradition)are both "inspired" and are interlinked .
    With all the man-made churches and denominations that have resulted from the Reformation, which denomination and Church is the only Church of God which is the Body of Christ. There can only be one.