My Love-Hate Relationship With Mob Psycho 100
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I'm going to side with Mob Psycho on this one. Truly peak anime
The biggest credit I can give mob is it knew how and when to end, this could have easily turned into a never ending gag manga with larger than life villains, but it had a story to tell, it told it and ended. Season 2 ep 11 stands as the best animated action episode ever and nothing will top it
It's cool to see someone with a hot take whose actually able to give valid reasons for their opinion. I don't agree with any of them, but I understand and can't exactly contest it since it's rooted in a rounded understanding of personal taste. I still think it's perfect in what it tries to do, but nothing perfect for everyone.
You truly are the Probably Pretentious.
At first I agree with your opinion on how Mob really preach it's message to the audience explicitly, like they literally give it in front of your face. But then I think about it again, and come to a conclusion that it's going to be really hard to make subtlety. Even Vinland Saga has this kind of writing to a certain degree. The whole "I have no enemy" speech from Thorfinn where he preach that "why should I fight/hate/kill you when we just meet each other for the first time" does this message directly on your face, but I don't find it corny or cringe honestly.
I think a story should mix between being explicit and subtle/implicit, which strikes the perfect balance. You need to be forceful and being upfront sometimes, but don't always hold your audience's hand with explicit message.
"This truly was our Mob Psycho"
-Probably Pretentious
That was Probably Pretentious of him.
"Probably Pretentious" is too long
@@IINautilusII"P. P." is kinda suggestive.
the show is fantastic from a writing perspective, although the third season’s content did feel like a big step down in comparison from the other two, right until the final three episodes. kinda felt like tying off loose ends rather than anything else. but those last few episodes were great.
animation wise, the first two seasons are absolutely astonishing. the third season is still fantastic, but generally lacking in comparison. while there’s still stand out moments (the alien episode, god dimple’s fight, and the final episode) overall everything else kinda was lacking. the mob at 100% in the final few episodes looked just fine. everything outside of action kinda looked just like normal flat anime story boarding, and overall the season was far less inventive and experimental with its animation (probably due to the director change).
but to look at the series holistically, it’s fantastic. it’s the kind of show that actually benefits from a rewatch, or watching on a binge.
Ending has problems as well. Like when for no good reason Dimple is brought back, despite story earlier clearly presenting it as if he died.
the best episodes of mob psycho from an action perspective (and yes most episodes look incredible, including the character acting) are up there with some of the best animated fights in anime ever. especially in a modern perspective. literally the only ones that come to mind as of recent that even come close are Zoro Vs King in One Piece, JJK S2 episode 16 and 17, some of the gear 5 episodes (particularly the 4th or 5th i think) and the final aot episode.
One of my favourite people talking of one of my favourite anime?
Yessir
your criticism of seriousness is so fair tbh. while i disagree slightly in terms of Mob, it’s exactly how i feel about JJK. trying to be comedic to the point it can be essentially a collection of unfunny gags, but also serious enough to where it can swap to seriousness and death and mass murder literally within seconds after a childish gag.
mob just kinda works better for me since the whole plot, characters, and world are inherintly more silly, being that the main drama is based around a teenager’s coming of age; and JJK’s main plot is much more serious, just being bogged down by pointless gags.
but that’s my opinion. so i can 100% see where you’re coming from. balancing tones in anime due to seriousness and shitty gags is probably it’s worst part, especially when adapting manga 1:1. anime directors need to realise we don’t need 1 minute extended sequences where characters out of nowhere turn into silly chibi versions shouting about nonsense, just because the manga has a singular panel of it. it’s jarring.
i feel like chainsaw man did it’s best at implementing those moments and gags into the actual base world and story. nothing feels jarring or like you’re cutting to a stupid anime gag. it flows like an actual show.
don’t get me wrong, those types of gags and cut aways can work; show like Azumanga Daiho or Nichijo wouldn’t work without them. but in shows like JJK, and as you point out, Mob, it’s just weird.
I'm curious what exactly you are talking about related to jjk and gags. When things are serious they are serious. There was no gags for the entirety of the shibuya arc which spans 18 episodes. There were gags in episode 6 when it was yuji nobara and megumi hanging out at the mall and meeting yuji's middle school fired.
There's a clear separation of seriousness and lightheartedness. The only moments where you could say that there was a blend was in the early parts of the story like epispde 4, but that's because the characters themselves didn't yet know the world they live in
I don't know how JJK and comedy are in the same sentence, its far from being comedic
In my opinion, I think the characters is what the anime does best
Reigen's character is alone rivalling one of the bests out there
@@cursedstone7939 For me he is my favorite. I like Reigen, dont be like him tho
Thank God I am not the only one who think season 2 is the best. Thank you Mr. pretentious. I think beside the animation, people give this show more credit than it deserves. I like it, but I don't think about it. If that makes any sense.
I actually kind of agree on the comedic aspect, the humour is too 'in your face' and times can get jarring (Reigen is really funny tho). Although the show does a good job at balancing the silly comedy with actually great character moments. That said, I don't find the lack of subtlety to be a problem at all. The show is good at what it does and thats enough for me.
One of the best part about the show for me is how it reaches its natural conclusion without streching the story any further. Personally I don't find the ending to be memorable at all but then again it doesn't need to be. It was a fitting ending to the story and thats what matters.
Also, I feel like the talented staff behind the show is what made this show so good. Don't get me wrong, ONE is a great writer but the anime adaptation is truly better in every single aspect. Shows like this is why I prefer the medium of anime over manga, its not about the fast consumption but quality consumption.
Also one final thing, I actually prefer the English dub.
Honestly this is a very valid take. I thought I was gonna be like "oh no here is Pretentious gonna be completely wrong about one of the best anime of all time," but I actually agree for the most part. They are pretty small issues, which you mentioned, but although I don't mind being preached to if it works, which I think like you mentioned it does due to the balance between absurdity, coming of age, and dramatic elements, if one of those elements don't appeal to you, then the preaching can get too much. I personally don't mind non-subtlety, I get that it can be obnoxious for a lot of people. No show is perfect, (except Wire season 1-4 and The Godfather) and this video shows that.
i tried not to scream as it is 1am here but i'm so excited to watch this
Bro, please make a video on the blu ray for jjk ep 17. I want Daddy vincent chansard back.
A coming of age story is aimed at a younger audience so I think it understadable that the points the author is trying to make are clearly stated. Some of the context is cut for time from the anime so that i an explanation why the first half of season 3 wan weaker to some people.
(spoilers)I personally don't like how dishonest some of the cliffhangers feel, I understand building tension but when Reigen 'dies' in season 1 or Mobs Parents die in season 2 I just feel betrayed rather then relieved when its revealed otherwise. I'm not a writer just how I felt about the execution.
I didn't really mind those fakeouts but I really disliked the final one with Dimple.
L Take. Love your content though
The video we have all been waiting for.
i feel like most absurd anime moments when they’re trying to be funny aren’t actually funny. but it definitely is charming and amusing.
like i’ve never actually laughed at any of the gags in JJK (and often think they’re extremely poorly timed), but when they’re done right, they’re not funny, but they’re extremely amusing and charming.
so while mob’s gags and absurdist humour doesn’t make me laugh, it also doesn’t make me cringe. i think it works for the world, characters, and story, and is extremely charming. so it works.
Try grand blue if you haven't. You'll stomach will hurt it's so fucking funny
@@seya_2if it’s on the level of Kaguya sama’s comedy then i would probably laugh a few times lol.
@@cwega2463 try the first episode and tell me. Everyone I personally know has enjoyed it so far
Yeah, humor is as much a tonal balancing tool as it is an art itself, and not making you cringe is definitely important.
the gags in JJK and the seriousness and jjk are so incredibly seperated that im convinced you watched approximately 3 episodes before typing this. JJK only ever has gags whenever a gojo is on screen, or a arc at a gap between arcs. the highlight this, i don't think the jjk manga has had a single funny moment for at minimum a hundred or so chapters, as the funny parts of JJK literally don't exist post shibuya (the tradeoff being writing quality, lmao)
i know your comment wasnt actually about JJK but i needed to say it
Love it!
Asking to breakdown the animation of Shangrila fronteir. (Day 2)
I loved this show, and its one of the few anime where the dub is better than the sub, without a question.
Nah
Asking to breakdown the animation of ShangriLa Fronteir. (Day2)
glad to know I'm not the only one who absolutely loved S3 ep 8
Bro every phonk song you see has mobs ???% form on it u can tell this anime on how it impacted the community
nice review
If a show is too preachy then I feel characters have to act out of character in order to preach. All the dialogue you list are perfectly in character, so what's the issue?
He's just Sakugatard with bad media literacy
3 days of happiness manga is great just too great 😢
3 Days of Happiness needs more love from the community. It's a masterpiece that will impact your perspective of the world. An experience that will live with you days after finishing it.
P.P would you ever make a video on 80's or 90's anime ?
The thing is bones studio has done so many justice to the show if u really compare it to the manga artwork and it's manga panel....
YESSS I was always tryna word mob writing issue into a sentence, and you nailed it perfectly.
Whenever the character start “teaching” with “cliche good moral sentences” and talk into the camera, that will always be corny to me.
Show it, don’t speak it. There’s too many monologue moment with no display to back up the words being said.
86 also has this problem. Barely a couple of ep into the series, but the character already said “yeah we know racism is bad, you and I are really just the same”. While it takes AOT 60+ eps before coming to that conclusion.
Honestly, I don't mind a lack of subtlety, as I think it's pretty overrated. Can it be effective? Sure, especially in very dramatic fiction, but it is not the only way. The problem with Subtlety is that it means that a message might not get across very well as shown with AOT, and although it can feel preachy, it gets the message across more effectively.
@@thomasffrench3639 yea, i guess so. That’s why Isayama has to add Armin lecturing into the camera about how cycle of violence will never end in the anime ending too.
We just cant have nice thing, but i guess this is for the better of overall audience 😔
@@NineTnk I prefer that line to "thank you Eren for killing so many people." Like I said, subtlety is overrated
I think it makes sense to see this as an issue with shows like 86 that are trying to come off as a grounded war drama, but Mob is a coming of age story. The show uses these direct messages during key teaching moments for Mob and adults in arrested development. It's told directly to the audience because the characters themselves are trying to guide others who desperately need it, most often Reigen to Mob (a developing young boy).
The series also implements the same themes in all of its characters in really interesting ways. Combined with the scenerios and character relationships allowing these moments to make sense, you have hard hitting, well earned moments, even if they're really direct.
You can have very direct messaging as long as the writing around it holds up, and it does hold up with Mob Psycho.
imo anyway
@@thomasffrench3639 I disagree, and I don't think that line is a particularly good example of subtlety at all. It's just layered dialogue dependant on context. The fact that some people might not 'get it' doesn't take away from the art of subtlety. For me, immersion is key, and being preachy does a lot more to undermine the message than it does good in allowing 'everybody' to get it. A line encapsulating the message doesn't mean anything on its own, it has to be earned. And it isn't more effective either IMO. Something that's able to communicate its message implicitly is much more powerful than explicitly stating it. As always there isn't a correct answer but subtlety is a better fit 9/10 times, and often just a consequence of good writing in my opinion.
It insists upon myself
Yei first
u should do dungeon meshi ep 12 next
In my personal opinion Mob Psycho is almost perfect. The only thing I would point to as a flaw is the final Dimple-return. It felt cheap.
Aside from that I would not change a single thing. There's a reason why the show is in my top 10 of all time, only behind a few arguably perfect shows like Hunter x Hunter, Vinland, AoT or Re:Zero.
I agree that Mob doesn't really do anything particularly special and unique in terms of character-writing but it doesn't have to because it does bring it's message across masterfully.
It also has one of the most fitting conclusions in all of anime.
4:31 maybe WE ALL R
6:29 He's preaching to Mob and helping him learn things to better understand certain topics. You don't need to apply those things to your life; it's more important for Mob to be a better person.
I just feel the same way, i really like it Mob Psycho 100, but sometimes, mostly in 3rd seasons, was just ok, i supposed it was the more focused drama than the usual comedy-drama-action, but all in all it has a satisfying end and was very good overall, If a person doesn't mind the characters designs that the series has then i can highly recommend him this show.
Can you please make video on The House of Fata Morgana please please please
Yes, I have every intention of doing so, but I want it to be a massively high effort video, so I'll make it when my channel grows a bit more, I don't think I can do that video justice right now.
I don't disrespect PPs opinion but for me MOB PSYCHO IS THE BEST ANIMATED SHOW just below CSM AND SLIGHT ABOVE JJK. Feel free to oppose my argument I'm not gonna argue😊
no you’re right. Mob is better animated than those shows objectively. it had the perfect schedule lmao.
Easily, too . Chainsaw Man just has a different and unique vibe and theres value to that. But no doubt that Mobs animation is objectively the better one
Please watch Space Dandy it might change your mind
@@cineglasses i prefer chainsaw man’s animation, but i can admit mob’s is better. i still love both.
@cwega2463 same, friend! Its a shame they'll be changing it. I was nerding out like crazy on the production when CSM was coming out
6:38 sometimes people need to be told things even if they know it
I prefer OPM over Mob-Psycho ; the former feels like a better piece that ONE was able to improve in many aspects upon the latter.
The Mob-Psycho anime feels like it's paying homage to his original style rather than trying to improve on it. So, it feels like some jokes don't land, some stories aren't good enough,etc. I always see the anime as more of a "meta" piece that celebrates ONE's style and the story of mob.
This is all entirely my opinion by the way.
day 1 of asking you to make a video on hyouka
I thought I might have been alone getting bored with S3 storyboard I'm glad in not the only one. At times it almost feelings like S3 and S2 pacing should have been switched. S1 and S2 had a lot to show/teach about the world/characters as soon as S3 came along a lot of the surprise element was already gone and a lot of the same underlining messages were just too in the face. Mob Psycho 100 will always be in my top 10, IMO S3 was very under whelming.
i dont get it. first you critique the show for not being funny despite having a lot of comedic moments, and then say that you dislike season 3 for...not having comedic moments
I thought mob psycho was great - even though I had a big headache while watching it. Only thing I didn't like about the visuals is the soft shadows. I just don't.
I overall like the writing; I will say that the epilogue didn't hit perfectly to me. Primarily because the show has this whole individualist message, that you should embrace your strengths and stuff, and then in the epilogue mob seems to actively avoid using his psychic powers like he never learned the message.
Maybe I just interpreted the whole story won't idk
I can agree with the point that it is too on the nose at times. But that's exactly why it left quite a impact on my stupid 14 year old brain. It's the pinnacle of what a coming of age story should be. I don't think I'd enjoy it as much if I watched it now since I have much higher media literacy. It's still my favourite anime for what it did for me.
I do wonder how these moments sound in Japanese 'cause in my language (and in english) some of these speeches sound really unnatural, weird
I just don't know how you watch anime and find Mob's humour annoying, it's like textbook japanese humour
6:29 Go watch that episode again. He just said 'run away'. It's not that deep. Reigen didn't want that unnecessary conflict for the kids that those petty villains were causing.
I feel the same way about "YOUR LIE IN APRIL"
But my conclusion is I don't like that show..
Na mob is a top 5 anime
"[Mob Psycho 100] doesn't take itself seriously and at the same time, it takes itself way too seriously."
This *perfectly* describes why the show - well crafted as it was - just did not work for me.
7:48 no it's your opinion again you didn't observe anything.
Ok now talk about how hyouka is amazing 4:36
Spice time
it must flow
W Take
I agree of some of your dislikes but it is really a great series, one of my favorite. One Punch Man is better cause your dislikes on Mob Psycho's writing doesn't exist there like giving life lesson. The growth from a character comes from self realization than external force.
I’m glad to finally see someone talk about tha faults in this show, I was so bored watching it. I know most people loved this show but I hated it. It wasn’t funny and I didn’t care about the characters at all
My biggest problem with Mob Psycho was definitely the character designs / overall style. I just couldn't stop thinking about how ugly everyone and everything looked through all three seasons. I felt like I was watching Bob's Burgers or some other cartoon network show with how the characters looked. Also, a lot of the color palettes and settings felt very dull / washed out to me, which I don't necessarily enjoy. As for the story, I remember liking it as a whole but I was getting kind of bored near the end. Overall, It was a fun watch, but it's definitely not one of my favorites.
I hated the third season of this show, it wasn't even a shadow of it's former self especially in the animation department. The first season was sooo much fun and such a banger with absolutely godlike animation and in the third one it feels like they were trying too hard to give the show some kind of story and meaningful character moments so it could end and it was very boring and lame IMO, biggest disappointment was ofc the animation.
the unfunny gags and talk no jutsu are my 2 biggest complaint with the show
Tf
@@royalfun1031 bro help this dude blocked me for no reason
@@gaminginvirinch3339 wut
so im not the only one who felt season 3 wasnt great
Apart from a few Sakuga cut, there was nothing from the show that struck with me
Scissor Seven is another show which kinda follows same principles only to some extent. But 90% of the time it's just gag humour only 10% of it is somewhat serious.
The last two seasons were pretty serious because they were mostly action if i remember correctly
@@pehuuuu yep last season had pretty good action from first to final episodes unlike other seasons which had action at finale of the season.
loved season 1, super loved season 2, season three was super meh. Never understood how so many people seemed to be praising season 3 as the best season.
Bro are you indian? Your accent sounds quite indian to me.
Yes He is indian
Read josei mamga if you want to see a proper relatable coming of age story.
Shonen and seinen coming of age very surface level & pretentious where characters dont feel real.
For coming of age you need to feel the characters are real.
Mob Psycho is perfect..... whatever you say bruh💸
Ik people might disagree with me and this is nothing against the complexity of the writing, but AOT preaches a lot. Like a whole lot
6:56 Again, Reigen was manipulated at that time, which is why he's preaching some bullsh** at that time. Even AOT Fate does its preaching about the things; many shows do this, having a message to tell.
Kinda agree S3 is my least favorite season then S1 then S2 was peak Mob
I didn't finish the show at first. I dropped after watching 6 episodes. Then I finished the show after sometime with my cousin when at vacation. It was good but nothing really special. While watching Mob Psycho I always felt like I was watching One Punch Man but the character are more emotional. I enjoyed season 2 thoroughly tho. Mainly because od Mogami arc. There are shows I watched that made me feel empty and made me think about it for weeks after watching them. But Mob Psycho isn't one of them
it's just an opinion, My opinion.
Probably Pretentious? Certainly insufferable. UA-camrs will make videos for any reason.
Your fake ahh comedy is way more trash than Mob Psycho.
Don't curse explain yourself on why
bad take...
love the visuals but i hate the characters and story in this one. it also tries to be funny, but never really succeeds. Huge fan of OPM and similair anime mashle though.
I think the reason why I liked mob psychos comedy so much was because I watched the German dub. I don't know all the differences, but the way they included references and fourth wall breaks was just so good. The voice-acting was also amazing. I also think that Mashle tries a bit too hard to be one-punch man. While it did make me laugh many times, it quickly felt a bit tiring. Just my opinion, though.
@just4funn978 mashle is funny because it's not trying to be serious. it has a formula and commits to it. it knows what it is....and that's what your gonna get. yes, his reactions are predictable but that's why it's funny cause you know it's coming and you know the other characters are going to be like wtf? lol
one punch man give you both worlds. when Saitama is on screen it's going to be goofy...when he's not...it's going to be serious. which is also good.
Not really you just prefer it it's not a fact. It doesn't try to be funny. The show doesn't take itself seriously too. It's just tells you common sense
@@japsk8er3 so motherf*cker so does mob psycho is doing the same then
I agree comedy was not great
Great video! I never knew how to put into words why mob psycho didn't click for me, even though I can recognise it's a well written show. Agree especially on not relating to coming of age shows (in anime for me) and the overly preachy writing