That high contrast look and dynamic range issue is exactly why bracketing for HDR editing was such a big deal in the early 2000s. Also definitely agree about viewfinders, I still own both types but I only shoot mirrorless for jobs where I absolutely need the AF performance to pump up my keeper rate. For personal projects and slower shoots it's OVF and (D)SLR all the way.
The gap in time between the 5D launch and today (2024) is the same as the gap between its launch and 1986. 1986 saw the launch of the Canon RC 701 (Basically the great grandparent of DSLR cameras, although it used videotape technology). The Canon RC 701 was outdated almost immediately (0.3Mp equivalent) but the fact that the 5D is still totally relevant today (it's still a superb camera, with colour science better than many 2024 cameras) is amazing. Canon knocked it out of the park with the 5D. They got it so right. I just bought an absolutely mint-perfect one for $220 US. At this price I don't understand why every photographer just doesn't buy one. I have to stop myself from buying them all. One day they will be so collectible. Grab a good one before the Hipsters hear about them.
Thank you for the video. Cannot love my 5D Classic more. It's simply unbelievable. I own three iterations of this legendary DSLR model. But, regularly come back to the Classic all the time except action photography.
I use my Classic 5D with an old (1990) canon kit zoom 28-80mm. It works surprisingly well. Even on auto it manages the highlights and dark spaces very well.
My favorite camera. I have two other cameras, both mirrorless - A Fujifilm and a Sony. I pick up the 5d classic most of the time. Takes amazing images.
When I moved to digital I started with the 5D, completing a large, year long b&w project. On the positive side, the results were impressive - and some of my shots interpolated up to 3'x4' prints. Great stuff (credit the lens and sensor). On the negative side, sensor cleaning was a constant necessity (a dust magnet) and I found Canon digitals awkward and unwieldy to use. I eventually went Fuji mirrorless, but in the end, it's all about the results and images from the 5D interpolate so well that the megapixel count isn't much of a problem.
Impressive stuff James! I have noticed that the sensor attracts so much dust 😭 Megapixel count isn’t much of a problem, they just allow for more flexibility. Thanks for commenting!!
I use my 5D more than my RP nowadays, idk I just enjoy using it. I like using a 35mm 1.4 Sigma lens on it. I recently picked up a Fuji s2 Pro, I'm excited to get it and compare it to the 5D. I think the Fuji's Super CCD sensor will render scenes very film-like, with great DR due to the layout of the sensor. (Although the Canon 5D already does this greatly)
@@danthe_cameraman Thanks man, im sure i will! I also have an olympus e1 coming from japan. That one has a kodak CCD in it similar to leicas, however i'm afraid the 4/3 sensor is just too small for my tastes, either way I have a lot to look forward to! i also learned that the original canon 1d had a CCD sensor... ah this will never end lmao
@@breh9320 it was good! unfortunately no matter what my e-1 had a terrible time with autofocus. i ended up getting an e-400, the last olympus camera to have a 10mp CCD kodak sensor, and it's really a great camera. old olympus cameras in general produce great colors. :)
Low dynamic range will force to use Canon 5D shooting like film. Usually film has dynamic range 3-5 stops and this camera force us to choose the scene similar with shooting film.
I grew up shooting film. I got my first DSLR in 2002. Over the years I shot a mix of film and digital. I shot my last roll of 35mm film in 2019. I still have medium format and large format film cameras as well. I did my own black and white film processing and negative scanning. There are a few places left that still do color negative film processing where I live. However, I probably will never shoot another roll of film again. I do have a Fuji X-T3 and I absolutely love the film simulations. I just can't justify the cost of shooting film anymore.
I think the high contrast issue is more due to the lens. The nifty fifty has that issue, it's there when I mount it on a mirrorless body. (And was there on the 20D as well.. I'd say equally bad issue on all three bodies.) 5Dc with a 28mm MC Beroflex is stunningly good in high contrast situations, never saw colors rendered so well despite our tropical strong light. (Can't recommend that lens though, only with supreme caution, as this M42 adapted lens' back element in infinity focus hits the mirror! - Actually, it made the mirror fall off, after taking a few absolutely stunning shots..) So, the quest of the perfect lens for the 5D continues! Nifty fifty is a nice little lens, but this body has far more potential. L glass will make a tremendous upgrade in both color quality and contrast handling....
The background music really grates. Would you consider removing it? I have the 5D Classic, in perfect condition. I also have the Mk2 and Mk3 versions. They are lovely cameras to shoot with. For landscapes in Australia, I would suggest you try an ND filter, to retain some of the detail in the sky.
I have been thinking about adding a full frame camera to my growing collection of cameras, and this one has been intriguing. For one, its used prices are reasonable, and lenses are easy to come by. I am having a hell of a time finding reasonable prices for used lenses for my Pentax K2000.
Last week I picked up a 1D Mark ii for $185.00! It's a blast, but feel kinda blind with it because the back screen really sucks. 😂 On the computer the images are amazing though.
Moving into 2023, the 5D has been my main camer since it first launch. Today I still shoot pro work with it. Just stay away from high ISO. Its the lens that make the image not the camera.
I like your photos, so thumbs up ! But I still don't know how you achieve the film look. I recently bought a 5D mark ii because of its video features and because I wanted to know what a professional grade, full frame camera could bring to my photos, especially in low light. I agree what you say about the experience and the image quality. But there's so different film stocks, so different way to edit them, even before the digital age, that talking about the film look seems inconsistent to me. We got a 5D, great, but what do we do with it know ?
I have heard the mark ii sensor is different from the mark i. It's not identical to film but rather film-like, which means it has less of a digital edge and punchier colour renditions. You can't 100% replace film but this gets you there for a fraction of the cost.
Nice content ! My solution for inexpensive film usage is to shoot...b&w only + caffenol (since i keep it around 16 days/ 8 bobins, caffenol is a good deal compared to rodinal) For color, i look for specific sensor & color science from the 2000's, which keeps me away from nowadays expensive color films Hence the Canon 5Dc
I got one about the same time you made this video. Great camera. So nice, I got another. First one being a little beat up but works great. The only issue I have is highlights blow out pretty easy. If you keep that in mind and adjust, you are good to go!
Have shot film for the past 4years and like you said, prices are going up and was looking for my first DSLR. My local shop had the 5D for sale for $250. I wanted to get one before the prices start rising for these cameras. Can already see the trend to getting old digital cameras. Haven't used it yet saving up for lens, CF card , and card reader. Have you used a Black Pro mist filter? heard that they give an even more "film" look paired with the 5D
Great idea considering the rising cost to shoot film! I have used a Pro mist filter on my Fuji but didn't actually like the effect personally. I find it's best to replicate the effect in post if you feel it adds to the image
I've shot events with this camera and the notoriously bad at autofocus lens sigma 50mm f1.4 non art version, the results are amazing, if you can ignore the fact that 50% of images are out of focus most of the time. Great camera for a great price, could have a better autofocus though and auto iso function. I'd go with Nikon d700 for that if you want to be sure it works as it should and you can count on reliability of it being accurate.
Thank you! I used the Canon 50mm 1.8 and an old Canon 35-70mm 3.5 zoom but check out my other videos as I've been experimenting with other lenses for this camera!
When I want a more analog look i use my Fuji X70. I've just added a X-T1 to my collection of Fujis and ordered a 35mm f1.6 manual lens, probably a fun combination.
I've had the 5D since it came out. I rarely use it anymore. Mine stine works, though it has developed a flew. It drains battery power when switched off, so I always have to remove that battery after use
You probably already know this, but in case you don't, some lenses flare a lot and that can really affect the entire picture a lot, so it isn't necessarily all the cameras fault when you have issues. That said, I know the 5D has more limits on dynamic range than modern cameras.
I use an nd filter with my old Canon cameras (5D Classic, 40D and a 7D mk i) and in my experience it is very useful to help with the dynamic range problems without exposure bracketing and a tripod.
I mostly shoot with my mju III and use x100v as a B camera with that emulates the same film as I have in my mju just to check how everything looks and feels before shooting it with film, maybe upgrade to mju2 or yashica t4 one day
You work around the camera. It doesn’t work around you. It’s a box that captures light. A pro makes stunning images with this camera and the Mk2. Try the original 1D too. Awesome
I think your landscape pictures look good. You should shoot jpeg & RAW, because RAW gives you much more latitude. I bought this to use with my collection of Lensbaby lenses because they work better with full frame sensors. Best wishes.
I usually shoot both RAW and JPEG but I find the RAW files just not that pushable compared to modern cameras. Lensbaby sounds interesting, will have to look into it!
Its not the camera its the lenses and the person taking the photos. Which ultimately creates that photo which stands the test of a moment in time and creates a ultimate art form.
Theres an adjustment phase to using older cameras where you need to be more aware of the limitations they have due to the older technology but once they've been overcome or compensated for you can take great images with the camera.
Really enjoyed this video on this camera! Budget friendly and quality is awesome. Wondering whether another lense might work for the landscapes. Thank you for doing this. I feel really good about my old 350D.
Yes and no, the 5D classic does have its own look to it which you can either build upon for its Raws or enjoy as a JPEG Sure you could try and replicate this look but I imagine it would take some time to do so
That shot up the bay that looks like mud. That belongs in my collection of landscape images that also look like mud - a look i am currently embracing. My feeling is it's a valid response to hyper-saturated AI enhanced shit and that its time will come. Lkd&Subd from a cabin in a swamp in a rainforest in winter located just across the ditch from your place. Cheers.
I wonder will this generation understand the importance of physical back up is the main reason to school film, maybe is something you only understand by heart when suddenly you loose must of your pictures without doing anything wrong cause your hard drives died all at once, and you end up with your film rolls from 30 years ago.
get the A7S instead. almost as cheap, 12mpx, insane low light, dynamic range, so you can play around all you want in post; autofocus ain't the best, but it works decent for stills; adapt any lens from any brand... oh and it can shoot video. Need I say more? Perspective. 5D mk1 is ancient at this point and using it is more of a novelty than a conscious decision anyone would make.
Sounds like a good deal! Personally I’m not a huge fan of early mirrorless cameras. The 5D classic is a fun camera for me and my use but can still deliver great images
A suggestion: leave your photos on screen (much) longer! I assume its mostly photographers on here, we love looking at photos!
Haha thank you! I take so many photos I’m always conscious the video will be too long
That high contrast look and dynamic range issue is exactly why bracketing for HDR editing was such a big deal in the early 2000s. Also definitely agree about viewfinders, I still own both types but I only shoot mirrorless for jobs where I absolutely need the AF performance to pump up my keeper rate. For personal projects and slower shoots it's OVF and (D)SLR all the way.
I can see why most people use to bracket exposure!
The gap in time between the 5D launch and today (2024) is the same as the gap between its launch and 1986. 1986 saw the launch of the Canon RC 701 (Basically the great grandparent of DSLR cameras, although it used videotape technology). The Canon RC 701 was outdated almost immediately (0.3Mp equivalent) but the fact that the 5D is still totally relevant today (it's still a superb camera, with colour science better than many 2024 cameras) is amazing. Canon knocked it out of the park with the 5D. They got it so right.
I just bought an absolutely mint-perfect one for $220 US. At this price I don't understand why every photographer just doesn't buy one. I have to stop myself from buying them all. One day they will be so collectible. Grab a good one before the Hipsters hear about them.
Thank you for the video.
Cannot love my 5D Classic more. It's simply unbelievable. I own three iterations of this legendary DSLR model. But, regularly come back to the Classic all the time except action photography.
Thank you for watching! The classic is such a fun camera to use. Glad you're still rocking it too!
I use my Classic 5D with an old (1990) canon kit zoom 28-80mm. It works surprisingly well. Even on auto it manages the highlights and dark spaces very well.
Oh that's really cool! I'll check it out
My favorite camera. I have two other cameras, both mirrorless - A Fujifilm and a Sony. I pick up the 5d classic most of the time. Takes amazing images.
Nothing can best it!
Love seeing the 5d Classic love! Its my first full frame camera and I am extremely impressed. Got mine for 150 bucks!
That’s a steal! You can’t beat them for the price
When I moved to digital I started with the 5D, completing a large, year long b&w project. On the positive side, the results were impressive - and some of my shots interpolated up to 3'x4' prints. Great stuff (credit the lens and sensor). On the negative side, sensor cleaning was a constant necessity (a dust magnet) and I found Canon digitals awkward and unwieldy to use. I eventually went Fuji mirrorless, but in the end, it's all about the results and images from the 5D interpolate so well that the megapixel count isn't much of a problem.
Impressive stuff James! I have noticed that the sensor attracts so much dust 😭
Megapixel count isn’t much of a problem, they just allow for more flexibility. Thanks for commenting!!
I use my 5D more than my RP nowadays, idk I just enjoy using it. I like using a 35mm 1.4 Sigma lens on it.
I recently picked up a Fuji s2 Pro, I'm excited to get it and compare it to the 5D. I think the Fuji's Super CCD sensor will render scenes very film-like, with great DR due to the layout of the sensor. (Although the Canon 5D already does this greatly)
I hear good things about the s2 Pro, hopefully you enjoy the experience!!
@@danthe_cameraman Thanks man, im sure i will! I also have an olympus e1 coming from japan. That one has a kodak CCD in it similar to leicas, however i'm afraid the 4/3 sensor is just too small for my tastes, either way I have a lot to look forward to!
i also learned that the original canon 1d had a CCD sensor... ah this will never end lmao
You’re going down a dangerous rabbit hole 😂
@@ToryTyler e-1 will be great unless u shoot in low light have a e-500 and in daylight its awesome camera too shoot woth
@@breh9320 it was good! unfortunately no matter what my e-1 had a terrible time with autofocus. i ended up getting an e-400, the last olympus camera to have a 10mp CCD kodak sensor, and it's really a great camera. old olympus cameras in general produce great colors. :)
I'm glad that you've got this camera. Working with it will really help anyone. Keep working on your photography and it will improve in time!
Low dynamic range will force to use Canon 5D shooting like film. Usually film has dynamic range 3-5 stops and this camera force us to choose the scene similar with shooting film.
100% I feel like I need to slow down (like shooting film) to make sure my exposure is correct
I grew up shooting film. I got my first DSLR in 2002. Over the years I shot a mix of film and digital. I shot my last roll of 35mm film in 2019. I still have medium format and large format film cameras as well. I did my own black and white film processing and negative scanning. There are a few places left that still do color negative film processing where I live. However, I probably will never shoot another roll of film again. I do have a Fuji X-T3 and I absolutely love the film simulations. I just can't justify the cost of shooting film anymore.
Film is great on occasion but it’s great having access to film simulations, they get you close to the look with none of the cost 🤝
I think the high contrast issue is more due to the lens. The nifty fifty has that issue, it's there when I mount it on a mirrorless body. (And was there on the 20D as well.. I'd say equally bad issue on all three bodies.) 5Dc with a 28mm MC Beroflex is stunningly good in high contrast situations, never saw colors rendered so well despite our tropical strong light. (Can't recommend that lens though, only with supreme caution, as this M42 adapted lens' back element in infinity focus hits the mirror! - Actually, it made the mirror fall off, after taking a few absolutely stunning shots..) So, the quest of the perfect lens for the 5D continues! Nifty fifty is a nice little lens, but this body has far more potential. L glass will make a tremendous upgrade in both color quality and contrast handling....
Interesting thanks for sharing. I've heard that Leica R glass is a great option too but they've become more expensive now days..
The background music really grates. Would you consider removing it?
I have the 5D Classic, in perfect condition. I also have the Mk2 and Mk3 versions. They are lovely cameras to shoot with.
For landscapes in Australia, I would suggest you try an ND filter, to retain some of the detail in the sky.
An ND would be good but modern camera sensors have much better dynamic range - would be better using the 5D classic on the street personally
Yeah, that "music" really grates.
I have been thinking about adding a full frame camera to my growing collection of cameras, and this one has been intriguing. For one, its used prices are reasonable, and lenses are easy to come by. I am having a hell of a time finding reasonable prices for used lenses for my Pentax K2000.
I’d 100% recommend, you’ve also still got the ability to adapt vintage glass too so really you’ll have no issues with lenses
Last week I picked up a 1D Mark ii for $185.00! It's a blast, but feel kinda blind with it because the back screen really sucks. 😂 On the computer the images are amazing though.
Haha the back screen on these cameras is basically useless 😆
But amazing find, glad you like the images!
What settings do u use? Landscape? Neutral? No raw just jpeg? I have one too and use the 50mm 1.8
No settings just normal mode
Moving into 2023, the 5D has been my main camer since it first launch. Today I still shoot pro work with it. Just stay away from high ISO.
Its the lens that make the image not the camera.
Impressive to hear it's stood the test of time professionally!
I like your photos, so thumbs up ! But I still don't know how you achieve the film look. I recently bought a 5D mark ii because of its video features and because I wanted to know what a professional grade, full frame camera could bring to my photos, especially in low light. I agree what you say about the experience and the image quality. But there's so different film stocks, so different way to edit them, even before the digital age, that talking about the film look seems inconsistent to me. We got a 5D, great, but what do we do with it know ?
I have heard the mark ii sensor is different from the mark i. It's not identical to film but rather film-like, which means it has less of a digital edge and punchier colour renditions.
You can't 100% replace film but this gets you there for a fraction of the cost.
Nice content ! My solution for inexpensive film usage is to shoot...b&w only + caffenol (since i keep it around 16 days/ 8 bobins, caffenol is a good deal compared to rodinal)
For color, i look for specific sensor & color science from the 2000's, which keeps me away from nowadays expensive color films
Hence the Canon 5Dc
I got one about the same time you made this video. Great camera. So nice, I got another. First one being a little beat up but works great. The only issue I have is highlights blow out pretty easy. If you keep that in mind and adjust, you are good to go!
That's awesome! Sensors have come a long way
Have shot film for the past 4years and like you said, prices are going up and was looking for my first DSLR. My local shop had the 5D for sale for $250. I wanted to get one before the prices start rising for these cameras. Can already see the trend to getting old digital cameras. Haven't used it yet saving up for lens, CF card , and card reader. Have you used a Black Pro mist filter? heard that they give an even more "film" look paired with the 5D
Great idea considering the rising cost to shoot film! I have used a Pro mist filter on my Fuji but didn't actually like the effect personally. I find it's best to replicate the effect in post if you feel it adds to the image
I've shot events with this camera and the notoriously bad at autofocus lens sigma 50mm f1.4 non art version, the results are amazing, if you can ignore the fact that 50% of images are out of focus most of the time. Great camera for a great price, could have a better autofocus though and auto iso function. I'd go with Nikon d700 for that if you want to be sure it works as it should and you can count on reliability of it being accurate.
Might be an issue with the earlier versions, I've heard no issues with modern Sigma's
Try changing lenses get canon glass instead older sigmas arnt known for great autofocus
Love your photos man! May I know what lens do u use on this camera? Thanks!
Thank you! I used the Canon 50mm 1.8 and an old Canon 35-70mm 3.5 zoom but check out my other videos as I've been experimenting with other lenses for this camera!
When I want a more analog look i use my Fuji X70.
I've just added a X-T1 to my collection of Fujis and ordered a 35mm f1.6 manual lens, probably a fun combination.
That does sound like a fun combination! I’ve always wanted to try out the 1st gen Fujis - keep us posted!
@@danthe_cameraman the X-T1 has actually the X-trans II sensor, just as the X70.
Plus side ef lens are easy to get And reasonable...my EDC is the canon M50...the 5d is a beast to me still
I use to rock the M50 + pancake Lense as an EDC, great little combo but the 5D Classic just has this look you can’t beat ❤️
I've had the 5D since it came out. I rarely use it anymore. Mine stine works, though it has developed a flew. It drains battery power when switched off, so I always have to remove that battery after use
Maybe the battery, I had to pick up some third party replacements for mine
@@danthe_cameraman That was my first thought. But I put in a newly purchased battery and same deal happened.
You probably already know this, but in case you don't, some lenses flare a lot and that can really affect the entire picture a lot, so it isn't necessarily all the cameras fault when you have issues. That said, I know the 5D has more limits on dynamic range than modern cameras.
This is true but I've tested it with a variety of lenses now and still experience the same issue. It's better with modern glass though
@@danthe_cameraman Yeah, modern lenses tend to be much better controlled in that regard. I'm sure it is lack of dynamic range too though.
I use an nd filter with my old Canon cameras (5D Classic, 40D and a 7D mk i) and in my experience it is very useful to help with the dynamic range problems without exposure bracketing and a tripod.
That’s a handy tip, thanks for sharing!
If I could jump in with a question - would a circular polarizer do mostly the same job as an ND filter? CPL seems more versatile
I mostly shoot with my mju III and use x100v as a B camera with that emulates the same film as I have in my mju just to check how everything looks and feels before shooting it with film, maybe upgrade to mju2 or yashica t4 one day
That's a great idea
You work around the camera. It doesn’t work around you. It’s a box that captures light. A pro makes stunning images with this camera and the Mk2. Try the original 1D too. Awesome
Very true, still need to understand your camera to produce amazing results
Please can we make videos with Canon 5D classic ?
Great vid Dan! Liked and subscribed :)
You're a legend, much love!!
I still have my first 5D classic. First body I used professionally
Fun to see young people love gran'pa cameras 😄
😂😂 good to revisit a classic
I think your landscape pictures look good. You should shoot jpeg & RAW, because RAW gives you much more latitude. I bought this to use with my collection of Lensbaby lenses because they work better with full frame sensors. Best wishes.
I usually shoot both RAW and JPEG but I find the RAW files just not that pushable compared to modern cameras. Lensbaby sounds interesting, will have to look into it!
Its not the camera its the lenses and the person taking the photos.
Which ultimately creates that photo which stands the test of a moment in time and creates a ultimate art form.
Theres an adjustment phase to using older cameras where you need to be more aware of the limitations they have due to the older technology but once they've been overcome or compensated for you can take great images with the camera.
:) nearly convincing me to buy a 5d queen mom or a 5d mkII :) the 50mm i have already.
Classic all the way!
Really enjoyed this video on this camera! Budget friendly and quality is awesome. Wondering whether another lense might work for the landscapes. Thank you for doing this. I feel really good about my old 350D.
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it ❤️
You could be right and I did think about it, will need to re visit this soon 👀
@@danthe_cameraman Just subscribed!
@@tarynsanmartino8930 thank you!!! ✌️
You can achieve this or any look with almost any camera if you're going to apply filters in Lightroom/snapspeed etc?
Yes and no, the 5D classic does have its own look to it which you can either build upon for its Raws or enjoy as a JPEG
Sure you could try and replicate this look but I imagine it would take some time to do so
That shot up the bay that looks like mud. That belongs in my collection of landscape images that also look like mud - a look i am currently embracing. My feeling is it's a valid response to hyper-saturated AI enhanced shit and that its time will come. Lkd&Subd from a cabin in a swamp in a rainforest in winter located just across the ditch from your place. Cheers.
love it.
Thank you! 🙏
Some got the film look because the sensor is bad, some because it's too good
I wonder will this generation understand the importance of physical back up is the main reason to school film, maybe is something you only understand by heart when suddenly you loose must of your pictures without doing anything wrong cause your hard drives died all at once, and you end up with your film rolls from 30 years ago.
VietNam with love
Thanks for tuning in ❤️❤️
Canon, has one N
Thanks mate 🙏
The camera is heavy
It's no lightweight that is for sure
get the A7S instead. almost as cheap, 12mpx, insane low light, dynamic range, so you can play around all you want in post; autofocus ain't the best, but it works decent for stills; adapt any lens from any brand... oh and it can shoot video. Need I say more? Perspective. 5D mk1 is ancient at this point and using it is more of a novelty than a conscious decision anyone would make.
Sounds like a good deal! Personally I’m not a huge fan of early mirrorless cameras. The 5D classic is a fun camera for me and my use but can still deliver great images
nice pictures but these are images are nothing like film imo !!!
Thank you 🙏
photo on 3:45 🔥
Thanks!! One of my favourites from the trip!
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