Make the Size You NEED
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2023
- Swaging round stock down by a 1/16th of an inch may seem silly, but the size is critical for the holdfasts I make. The SayMak power hammer with shop made dies makes the job relatively efficient.
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Again reminding me how much I want a power hammer!
Want? Or need?
@@philmenzies2477 both 😂😂😂
I would love to see how you made those dies. I find the process of making the tools just as, and sometimes, even more interesting than the projects that will be created using the tools. It sparks the creativity in my brain.
I see you got the ribbon burner going John good job
Good morning John, that was a great video. Interesting for sure. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.
Good morning!
Love watching the power hammer videos
Good tools and experience come together! Makes me want a power hammer.
you can do it with a top and bottom swage or a spring swage and a decent hammer but yes a power hammer makes it a lot quicker
Not having a power hammer, I was focused on what would happen if that wood support block accidentally got knocked out while your hand was under it. Question answered at 1:50! God, I couldn’t imagine a much worse injury! 😬
Morning John
Good morning
I like 🔨 time!
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I don't know what's the difference in price between 1/16th and 3/4 round bar, but is it worth it to use all that gas and electricity and time instead of buying the correct sized round bar?
Time is a much bigger issue, the gas and electric cost are negligible. However the price per 20 foot bar is about 1/3 and in this case I found a large number of bars at a salvage dealer for even less. The big thing however is that this stretches enough that I get 2 extra usable pieces from each 20 foot bar and that means an increase in profit that is much higher than the total cost of materials, gas and electric.
Are use three eights square bar that I got from Home Depot to make nails and I do have some mild steel that I plan to make a pair of tongs out of. Is that a good idea to work with mild steel for that and I love your videos by the way they inspire me
Go to a metal or welding supply to buy your steel. It will be much cheaper. Ask about drops, which are basically scraps .
Mild steel is fine for tongs.
Home depot is an expensive way to get steel, if there is a metal supplier in your area you can get way more for the same price, (like, 20’ for around what home depot charges for 4’) and they usually will cut it into shorter pieces for you if you need them to (most people can’t haul a 20’ stick of steel in their car!)
I would start with at least 5/8" bar for tongs. As others have mentioned a steel supplier will be much cheaper than the home center and will also have a wider variety of sizes.
@@BlackBearForgeII thank you
Cool, question do you gain about 1" per foot of 3/4 round stock or is the difference small enough that you lose enough scale for it to stay about the same? (have a great winter festival)
I'm actually gaining a little more. As a result i get two more usable pieces out of a 20 foot bar doing it this way
That's a great question (and answer). I was thinking about how much metal I would be losing turning down a larger bar on my lathe!
@@BlackBearForgeII thats very cool and makes it all the more worthwhile to spend the time doing it.
What do you recommend as an entry level starter power hammer. I really would like to get one in my shop, but they are pricey.
They are very pricey these days and good deals on old hammers are rare any more. But a 25 pound Little Giant is still a good starter hammer if you can find one. In running condition they are probably $5,000 or more these days. The small Anyang would be a good hammer as would the Hammer kens Custom Iron sells, that one would require a separate air compressor. Both of those are in the $7,000 price range. Coal Iron Works is working on a small self contained hammer in the $9,000 range. No cheap options I'm afraid. There are plans out their for various home built hammers
Did you make that swage just for this job?
Yes, I make hundreds of this particular project every year, so its worth taking the time to make the tooling.
@@BlackBearForgeIIMakes sense. What's the swage made from? Also, I'm assuming you used a small piece of 11/16 when you were making the swage?
Couldn’t this have been done in your lathe with far less effort?
I suspect a lathe would take longer, but the bigger issue is that it leaves the excess material on the floor. Doing it this way draws out the material and I actually end up with 2 more usable pieces per 20 foot bar than I would if I started with the 11/16 bar. Those extra two pieces result in higher profit per run.
only if it wasnt so exspensive and alot of paper work to make custom rifle barrels! so many regulations and tons of paper work!