Baby Dodds - An Appreciation

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024
  • www.traditional-jazz.com
    Baby Dodds was one of the founding fathers of jazz drumming. John Petters discusses and demonstrates his style and technique. There are two videos on UA-cam which claim to do so but fail. John Petters has been a professional jazz drummer for over 25 years, specilalising in the early jazz styles. More details on Baby Dodds may be found on www.traditional-jazz.com

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  • @1951drdave
    @1951drdave 10 років тому +6

    John, forgive me for not answering your question, but I was knocked down by a serious stroke. Zutty told me one thing. He said to go to my drums, play a march and make it swing. I hear you are yourself performing that same style. That reveals your fine knowledge and is why you remind me of Zutty. Keep swinging!

  • @DrumsATon
    @DrumsATon 3 роки тому

    great performance! nice melodies!

  • @terryofford7779
    @terryofford7779 10 років тому +1

    Hello John, I enjoyed your discourse on Baby Dodds and his technical prowess, , he was a great man he unashamedly displayed a huge African Element in his style and this make the music drive and adds to the excitement of N.O style jazz. I have a very old LP of many of his 'lessons,' This was recommended to me by Mike Dowley who took lessons from Zutty Singleton in NY in the sixties. I liked your comment re left handed/right handed, I was taught by Mike (Seven Side Jazzband Shrewsbury) that it didn't really matter which hand was used, so long as the result sounded as it should, some people are quite pedantic but we all have an idiosyncrasy I guess. Your style is amazing and along with Colin Bowden, you represent the leading exponents of the New Orleans Baby Dodds style.P.S, never could do a press roll with my left hand. Thanks again for your knowledge. Terry Offord Melbourne Australia.

  • @vergon6662
    @vergon6662 2 роки тому

    Amazing improv towards the end - AMAZINGLY MUSICAL. Great homage to our masters from the past.

  • @jaschaheifetz
    @jaschaheifetz 14 років тому

    I enjoyed listening to your description of Mr. Dodds, and your very musical and relaxed playing.
    Well done.

  • @fivebyfivesound
    @fivebyfivesound Рік тому

    Thank you 🙏

  • @shraunbone
    @shraunbone 11 років тому +1

    I really enjoyed the solo at the end. I love wood block and rim sounds. Sounded like tap dancing.

  • @MrDaddyogrn
    @MrDaddyogrn 8 років тому

    Thanks for sharing! I enjoy your videos very much. More please!

  • @johnpetters
    @johnpetters  12 років тому

    Thank you for your nice comments, Jasper. you were lucky to meet Zutty. It must have been a terrific experience.What lesson did he give you that I performed in the video?

  • @marceibel1131
    @marceibel1131 4 роки тому

    Wonderful, authentic drumming, Mr. Petters. Enjoyed every bit of it. 😍

  • @noxiscool
    @noxiscool 16 років тому

    That was fantastic. Amazing film, amazing playing and an amazing tribute. Interesting, informative, entertaining and good editing. I like it a lot.

  • @SAHBfan
    @SAHBfan 6 років тому +1

    Some of the footage of Baby Dodds that has come to light on youtube recently shows him using his right hand to do the buzz roll and his left hand to play the time, the opposite of what most people do these days when trying to copy his style.

  • @gummiman01
    @gummiman01 8 років тому

    thanks for the history, and your research, and keeping the roots alive. nice demo playing too

  • @fess04
    @fess04 10 років тому +4

    thanks...and greetings from New Orleans : ) fine playing examples....a definite treasure !

  • @jackbrown3270
    @jackbrown3270 3 роки тому

    oh my goodness those rolls at the end make me want to practice so hard

  • @johnpetters
    @johnpetters  16 років тому

    Thank you Michael. This was a lot of fun to make & quite difficult to try to get the right feel. Baby's timing is something else!

  • @shraunbone
    @shraunbone 14 років тому

    Wonderful playing.

  • @holygroove2
    @holygroove2 12 років тому

    This is really cool. You can find some "second line" videos on UA-cam where they use one of the patterns that you're showing here. So much can be learned just by listening to the sound...well done and thank you for caring so much to do something like this!

  • @EricBarstad
    @EricBarstad 2 роки тому

    Awesome vid, thanks for sharing this knowledge

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat 14 років тому

    Very informative and well done. Thanks for your presentation.

  • @giacomotretti5435
    @giacomotretti5435 8 років тому

    Really well-played man. I appreciated the intro about Dodds's style and the Drum solos's example! Good job

  • @singingbone
    @singingbone 11 років тому

    nice job john, thank your for sharing this stuff!

  • @1951drdave
    @1951drdave 12 років тому

    Here we have another wonderful video from Mr. Petters. I enjoy, and learn from, all of this gentleman's posts. It might, perhaps, be of interest that in 1969 I was lucky enough to see Zutty Singleton perform almost every night. I actually got Zutty to give me one quick lesson and Mr. Petters performs it in his solo.

  • @TBAGSHAW
    @TBAGSHAW 15 років тому

    Hello John,
    Thanks for the information this was great. That style of playing is very over looked and is of course the foundation of all that we as drummers do. Thanks again.

  • @Chestnut442
    @Chestnut442 Місяць тому

    Fantastic dissertation John - great examples, wonderful rhythm and swinging close-out. The only other drummer I can think of who I find almost impossible to 'copy' is Big Sid Catlett.

    • @johnpetters
      @johnpetters  Місяць тому

      Thank you and yes, Big Sid is impossible!

  • @hilltopviewer8204
    @hilltopviewer8204 8 років тому

    I enjoyed that,Thank You for the upload!

  • @Rickriquinho
    @Rickriquinho 8 років тому

    Congratulations!

  • @turnitback
    @turnitback 14 років тому

    John, thank you for your reply.
    In my book, any sticking pattern is correct if it works in a given situation, irrespective of whether another pattern is more commonly used .
    Thinking again about the left/right-handed question, it seems to me that playing 4-4 on the snare drum in a press roll is the equivalent of playing the ride, hi-hat, etc. that way in similar patterns. Surely, therefore, Minor Hall and John Petters (and indeed I) play it RIGHT-, not left-, handed.

  • @klikonojazz
    @klikonojazz 14 років тому

    Than You for this wonderful demonstration!

  • @johnpetters
    @johnpetters  11 років тому

    Thank you, Steve.You can't miss the 'Africa' in Baby's playing. He is the most difficult drummer to try to emulate.

  • @miketalbot4
    @miketalbot4 15 років тому

    Great playing! I really enjoyed that

  • @ZackYouTube
    @ZackYouTube 3 роки тому

    well done. keepin the facts!

  • @joelbarr1807
    @joelbarr1807 10 років тому

    I think it was Tony Sparbaro w/ the ODJB who first used a full drum kit on a jazz recording. it seems to be clear on the 1918 cut of clarinet marmalade blues if you start listening at 1 minute and 25-30 seconds (depending on the UA-cam video). It seem's like billy goat stomp also has a full drum kit (I think that's the song playing at 1 minute and 14 in your video) Also great drumming John, you look so calm and composed playing the skins! I'll try to like all your video's!

  • @turnitback
    @turnitback 14 років тому

    John's UA-cam videos are essential watching for anyone wanting to learn Trad Jazz.
    I don't think I'd quibble about which hand does the bounced strokes and which the 4-4 DBJustin. After all, it's the sound that matters.
    I usually play PRs as John does, but a teacher says I am unusual, being a right-hander that plays them left- handed. His "left-handed" the opposite DBJustin's left-handed. I don't profess to know which is correct. I wonder, could John perhaps clarify this?

  • @SteveCournane
    @SteveCournane 12 років тому

    Lovely tribute to a master (and the real father of the kit)

  • @KaanCelen
    @KaanCelen 2 роки тому

    yeah!

  • @johnpetters
    @johnpetters  14 років тому

    @turnitback Thanks for the comments.
    I can't say which is correct.
    Have a look at the clip of the Ory band with Minor hall. He is rolling with the left hand and beating 4 with the right.

  • @TheBroadcastStudio365
    @TheBroadcastStudio365 7 років тому

    Wonderful!

  • @gitterfritter
    @gitterfritter 15 років тому

    Damn ... that was sweet. Awesome video.

  • @GregLikesJelly
    @GregLikesJelly 10 років тому

    This is brilliant, as a rock drummer I've been trying to learn Jazz drumming just to open my area of playing

    • @johnpetters
      @johnpetters  9 років тому +1

      Thank you. Listen to all the old players. Baby, Zutty Singleton, Tony Sbarbaro, Gene Krupa, Ray Bauduc, George Wettling, Big Sid Catlett, Jo Jones etc. Good luck with your playing.

  • @SteveCournane
    @SteveCournane 10 років тому

    One other question , what is your favourite recording to hear baby's so called shimmy beat. I have a lot of stuff but it is so hard to hear that snare beat on any of them, lots of block etc. but it seems hard to find a good recording of him actually playing the so called shimmy beat with other musicians

  • @GroffinTiffin
    @GroffinTiffin 13 років тому

    nice...thx for posting. not too much on here about this style of drumming.

  • @johnpetters
    @johnpetters  14 років тому

    @turnitback Can't post a link to the video but search for Ory's Muskrat Ramble from 1956

  • @SteveCournane
    @SteveCournane 10 років тому +1

    So hard to know where that first drum kit was recorded, but I agree it seems very likely that it was way before Gene Krupa . Of course how we define a drum kit is also another matter, it would have to be just bass drum and a snare I guess plus a few blocks etc, maybe a small cymbal or china cymbal being extra.I believe it would not include a low boy (precursor to the high hat) for example. Would you agree John?

    • @mcsteifefrise9995
      @mcsteifefrise9995 6 років тому

      Steve Cournane you have to mention that dodds played without a low boy or charlston machine, so his drumset has been quite incomplete all the time as seen from a more modern perspective.

  • @johnpetters
    @johnpetters  13 років тому

    @GroffinTiffin Thanks everybody for the positive replies. Baby Dodds was very special.

  • @Rudeman61
    @Rudeman61 9 років тому

    that sounded like my bass drum during a solo ha! I have since learned more isolated patterns

  • @babydodds2039
    @babydodds2039 11 років тому

    in most of the video i have seen i think babydodds had a tenancy to end his press rolls on the left hand. i find this quite interesting although i have seen drummers, good drummers end with either hand.

  • @TheHeater90
    @TheHeater90 2 роки тому

    If you listen to the recordings of The Original Dixieland Jazz Band from 1917 and 1918 on a good system with good bass response, you will be 100% certain that Tony Sparbaro was using a bass drum on those dates. No cowbell or woodblock or even tom tom makes that deep of a sound, and the band didn't have a bassist or tuba player, so there is no mistaking.

  • @1951drdave
    @1951drdave 12 років тому

    Dear Mr. Petters, Zutty told me to sit behind my drums and play a parade march and build it forward to make it swing!

  • @QueWaNe
    @QueWaNe 12 років тому

    What's the name of the song that starts playing at around 1:13?

  • @richardthomas1
    @richardthomas1 10 років тому

    Superb! Thank you.

  • @SteveCournane
    @SteveCournane 11 років тому

    Thank you for your tribute, so important that Baby is given credit. I often feel there is a move to discredit the African influence of Baby on Jazz History, something you do not do at all.

  • @johnpetters
    @johnpetters  14 років тому

    @shraunbone Thank you!

  • @TeamFSG101
    @TeamFSG101 12 років тому

    never seen anyone grip that far back on the stick with your left hand. you should choke up a little bit. at least to the fulcrum.