For those of you commenting about “G” plates on signals, I am well aware of what a grade signal is and what it signifies. Still, in my over 50 years of railfanning I have never seen a train following this closely behind another one, and judging by the comments here, nobody else has either.
I used to live along that line and I've never seen one follow that close either. I had to play it again also to make sure "he" was on the same track. Listening to the vid it sounds like they had to "get out" of the throttle a little...which would really be a momentum buster pulling that grade...col. Thanks for posting;
@troy12n Grade signal: A permissive signal used along a steep climb and identified by both a number plate and a plate with the letter "G." The governing rule is usually that a full-tonnage train climbing the grade may pass a grade signal indicating stop without stopping. Grade signals are used to keep heavy trains moving under conditions where the stopping distance is greatly reduced by the hill and restarting would be difficult.
This has got to be the closest I've seen 2 trains run to each other... And I've seen trains a lot closer together than most people have... Awesome video
@griffix01 I still remember my dad's comments at the moment when the second train rounded the curve and came into view: "Holy crap! Look at these cowboys!" Pretty much sums it up.
Definitely one of my favorites! Great video with two epic K5LAs (Amtrak F40 especially) and a slightly fouled but still stellar P3. The two trains on the same track is something that should be played in a museum on a big screen. Ya just don't see this kind of stuff anymore! The last train just sounded really cool. Either the engine sounded like a horn or vice versa, but it just sounded really neat. Thanks for putting this awesome footage on UA-cam!
Hmmm,never saw this, as other guys comment not an usual practice.Ok the braking distance will reduce up hill,but is it enough is the question?So hat off!!!! Always fine to see these Chessie vids,it will live on ...thanks
Chessie's C&O subsidiary would do this same practice on their mainline grade over Allegany summit in southern WV/VA...trains closely following, in the same block.
meccaturbo CSX doesn't do that anymore instead they just put two trains together and use the locomotives from the second train as mid point DPUs, it's pretty interesting and the coal trains are huge over 200 cars two or three engines on the point and two DPUs in the middle cut, they run this configuration heading out of Hinton towards the big bend tunnel and Talcott east to Virginia
Old School B&O/Chessie! And yes those were their actual train symbol designations. Chessie crews called signals long before other railroads even thought about it. They also still used the old 1or 2 letter telagraph calls for towers, block stations and waypoints. I miss that railroad! All that said, this too-close spacing would've been against the rules to do intentionally.
Something is very wrong here with these 2 trains operating in the same block. I would like to hear a rational explaination from a railroader on how this was possible. I know this line and at the time, it was dispatched by train orders and ABS signals and those trains should not have been able to occupy the same block like that.
For those of you commenting about “G” plates on signals, I am well aware of what a grade signal is and what it signifies.
Still, in my over 50 years of railfanning I have never seen a train following this closely behind another one, and judging by the comments here, nobody else has either.
I used to live along that line and I've never seen one follow that close either. I had to play it again also to make sure "he" was on the same track. Listening to the vid it sounds like they had to "get out" of the throttle a little...which would really be a momentum buster pulling that grade...col. Thanks for posting;
@troy12n Grade signal: A permissive signal used along a steep climb and identified by both a number plate and a plate with the letter "G." The governing rule is usually that a full-tonnage train climbing the grade may pass a grade signal indicating stop without stopping. Grade signals are used to keep heavy trains moving under conditions where the stopping distance is greatly reduced by the hill and restarting would be difficult.
the way chessie should be remembered.
no re numbered locos.
all pure.
all chessie!
That's fantastic! Classic railroading that, if happened today, people would be out of jobs. Thanks for sharring!
This has got to be the closest I've seen 2 trains run to each other... And I've seen trains a lot closer together than most people have... Awesome video
Hard to believe that two trains shared the same track that close to one another!!!
Now thats how u move trains back 2 back. I've never seen that before in my life and wish i could c that nowdays.
Great vid!
Pure awesome! I've never seen anything like it.
@griffix01 I still remember my dad's comments at the moment when the second train rounded the curve and came into view: "Holy crap! Look at these cowboys!" Pretty much sums it up.
wow, p3 horn on that 2nd chessie train. that's rare. nice stuff. :-)
just awesome! watching this brings back memories-if that's the st louis trailer jet, i watched many of them go through my hometown.
Very nice! Awesome Chessie clips right there!
Can't understand how and why they'd allow two trains that close together.
Now that's a nice syncronicity.
Definitely one of my favorites! Great video with two epic K5LAs (Amtrak F40 especially) and a slightly fouled but still stellar P3. The two trains on the same track is something that should be played in a museum on a big screen. Ya just don't see this kind of stuff anymore! The last train just sounded really cool. Either the engine sounded like a horn or vice versa, but it just sounded really neat. Thanks for putting this awesome footage on UA-cam!
Gotta love the Chessie paint scheme.
Oh, wow! Amazing horn on that F40PH
Hmmm,never saw this, as other guys comment not an usual practice.Ok the braking distance will reduce up hill,but is it enough is the question?So hat off!!!!
Always fine to see these Chessie vids,it will live on ...thanks
anything with Chessie is cool by me, great video
I'd like to see a video of Penn Central on the now abandoned PRR line that went through Hyndman.
yeah back in the day they did this quite a bit! i always thought they helped em then cut off or something
Wow. I was born in 84. wish I could have seen some good Chessie action.
chessie is sadly missed.
that damn csx merger screwed chessie all to hell.
Chessie's C&O subsidiary would do this same practice on their mainline grade over Allegany summit in southern WV/VA...trains closely following, in the same block.
meccaturbo CSX doesn't do that anymore instead they just put two trains together and use the locomotives from the second train as mid point DPUs, it's pretty interesting and the coal trains are huge over 200 cars two or three engines on the point and two DPUs in the middle cut, they run this configuration heading out of Hinton towards the big bend tunnel and Talcott east to Virginia
What a nice K5LA on that Chessie train!
Right before the big Chessie and Seaboard merger.
Don't know how I ended up here ??? Never knew there was such a place.
Pretty cool 😎😎
Old School B&O/Chessie! And yes those were their actual train symbol designations. Chessie crews called signals long before other railroads even thought about it. They also still used the old 1or 2 letter telagraph calls for towers, block stations and waypoints. I miss that railroad! All that said, this too-close spacing would've been against the rules to do intentionally.
Looks like the train was carrying K cars !
Nice video!
@yankinga yes but it also requires restricted speed and I'd say thats a little bit faster LOL!
What kind of cars were those on the car hauler?
"G" or "P" plate under the signal or not....he's going a little fast! Awesome stuff tho!
That is crazy!!!!!!!!
nice video!!
Is that Amtrak 312 or 262 at the beginning?
Something is very wrong here with these 2 trains operating in the same block. I would like to hear a rational explaination from a railroader on how this was possible. I know this line and at the time, it was dispatched by train orders and ABS signals and those trains should not have been able to occupy the same block like that.
Man those were the days...
Thanks Hunter Harrison and PSR 🙄
WHERE ARE THE INTERMEDIATES LMAO
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