Bumby killed Alice's family. He was obsessed with Lizzie (Alice's sister) and snuck into her house and raped her. When the queen said "That noise wasn't Lizzie talking in her sleep" she meant when Bumby was raping her. To cover up the crime, Bumby started the fire. He also kept Lizzie's bedroom key, which is the Chapter 6 key.
I love the ending of this game! There are 4 main ways to interpret it according to the AM's Alice Wiki, but I interpreted it a bit differently. I think Alice's control over Wonderland means she can now open the link to it in reality & let someone else see it at her will. So Bumby did see her as THE Alice, b/c I don't think he'd tremble in fear from just her glare of rage. Afterwords, she can now blend both worlds in her perspective into a balanced match between both worlds. That's my view ^_^
*Sure, I think so as well cause there's even a segment of gameplay where you can walk as Bloody Alice with her blue-white clothes covered in blood in her real world, if I'm correct.*
BEST ENDING EVER! I just love how she like turns around and bumby is all like 'o my god' because like he sees it (the real alice) Then I just loved watching the prick get kicked in front of the train (GREAT TIMING)
Actually it's a shock reaction the same as "My God" which Alice used "My Lizzie" instead. The Queen is actually young Alice as said so by the artbook and Mcgee himself.
I took it as she let herself go from reality and is permanently in Wonderland to the point that the two worlds have bled into one another. Cheshire at the end says "we can't go home again", which could suggest she's stuck in whatever state she's in while in Wonderland. I believe her waking up in the asylum suggests that that's where her body is being kept (in an asylum), but her mind is not.
Your theory is correct. Alice mistook Bumby as a Centaur, because of the glowing eyes and the shadows. It imprinted into her mind and that's how she justified later what she saw that night.
Bumby really did all that Or is she imagining him Doing all that & its weird How bumby got into Their house & nobody Heard anything?? it makes no sense.
Well I may have done too far (since it was from my frustrations) but I thought that Mcgee and the game (actually if you payed attention to the game very carefully enough) made it actually quite clear that the Queen is Alice's Psyche which in the first game she was Alice's self-guilt and the second game she represents Alice's childhood.
You forgot that centaurs also symbollized his lust, against Lizzie. He thinks that Lizzie is a tsundere and her mocks is actually a yes, that psycho...
@RashekeeG1 No. I noticed it as well. The Alice in the game is so cynical of Hatter and some of the others, that at times she doesn't seem to have ever liked them. I think that look of guilt was her realizing that they were her friends, and it was her madness that warped them. Plus, even in their warped minds, they didn't forget that they did care about her and were hurt by it ("I tried to forget what you did, but I can't"). Afterwards, I think she'll be more kind to everyone. :)
According to Mcgee from the forums "Londerland is a visual and symbolic representation of Alice's merging of the psychological and real world. In the first game Alice overcame her internal demons to master her mental space."
I always thought she was the embodiment of Alice's ignorance to the abuse of the children and her sister, which explains the child body. Either way in-game it's perfectly understandable why she'd be seen as Lizzie, because it's not all that obvious and a lot of it hints to it being her even though the book blatantly says otherwise. I thought it was Lizzie until I saw the art. No need to be a jerk and go calling people "ignorant" just because they haven't seen all the memorabilia.
Thank heavens( no pun intended) that Alice has finally healed from her trauma since the Fire. I was indeed worried because McGee's series had a wiki and it had several interpretations of the ending, some of them pretty tragic and even sinister.
Alice is by far on of my favorite video game characters! She is by far the most unbreakable and relentless ones I've ever met, and the strongest after dealing with everything she's been through in life. I hope she's in a third game!
What I find funny is that the thing( train) that was destroying wonderland(also Alice) was the one thing that killed the doc in the end. This game is pure amazing sauce on a gold plate being eaten with silver spoons and with a nice cup of tea.
Alright, just to start a debate. American Mcgee's Alice, or Madness Returns? Personally I like MR because the gameplay is simply fantastic. However, American Mcgee's was just sooooo CREEEEPYYY.
Well another thing, Victorians spoke rather weird or rather poetic/melodramatic/sophisticated back in those times which may not make sense to modern ears. Although this might be a stereotype of course it was a different time back then.
I love watching these clips as I watch them like a movie too. I really don't see why they couldn't make a movie out of this. >.< Would be great!~ Oh, well, just watching the clips from the game is still great.
I'm so sad... This game has some truly great potentials: powerful voice acting; potent writing; an intriguing, non cookie-cutter, mindf**k story (highly surprising for a hack and slash); immersive atmosphere and art design; and IMO one of the most climactic build-up for final boss fight ever. The ending is also terrifically done. All these potentials were almost wasted due to rushed release and lack of evolving gameplay. Here's hoping we'll get to see Alice 3 in the future.
I guess that may be linked to the Greek myth about the Centuars getting drunk and carrying off the bride during a wedding. (The part animal, part human morphology has been used as a metaphor for the struggle against the more basic, animalistic desires. Yes, such as lust.)
" In the second game she uses that power to defeat a real-world threat to her physical and mental self. In effect, by the end of Madness Returns, Alice has become a sort of "super hero" - able to blur the boundary between imagination and reality. This sort of thematic concept is present in a lot of hero tales. And it's echoed in the alchemy symbols found throughout the game."
@Iostars I agree with you. I felt so many gaps while playing, and I thought that they could've done so much better with the gameplay. It's a wonderful setup for sure, but the execution was a bit rushed.
Well there's a proposal about a third game called Alice: Asylum. It's a prequel of both games and it's estimate to release in 2021. Check the creator's channel in youtube.
I think the Looking Glass Line was the "Prototype" for the train of thought that Bumby put into her head during her therapy sessions until Bumby disproved of it and then the Infernal Train was created....
I would have to say that the Dollmaker may be one of the most gruesome looking bosses of all time....I've watched tons of horror games even and I can't think of a worse one....
@@elongatedmanforever1252 I'm curious...what makes you say that? I haven't watched the game in a very long time...but I only remember loving the game. Don't remember anything wrong with him as a villain...
@@TonksRules I have great dislike of him Because he comes off as 1-note Caricature made To be a political talking points about saying "people with Power mistreating people is bad" it's not subtle at all & It's also lazy & predictable Everyone knows that. it feels Corny how he acts like a cartoon Supervillain who does stuff cause "Money" or he's a trafficker it makes his character feel shallow & Just bad just because & That's not what makes a Villain good, bumby barely even Shows up in the game & it's so on the nose that He's the bad guy & he Does all these convoluted Nonsense like burn Alice's House with Alice's family inside & put Alice in a Asylum & then Alice just Kills him easily as he bumbles Around looking stupid & Laughing Cartoonish it's terrible writing at best.
@bpsauce2 O.O Really? :) When I told my friends this, they looked at me strange until I elaborated and then they understood it. They say my interpretation's really unique, which is good. I'm glad to see they aren't the only ones who like it. Thank you, glad I could make you see it in a different light. :)
The ending should be more satisfying. We players should feel the push he deserves instead of just watching that push. The final boss should've been like timed or something, a bad ending kind of way (like the original)
Ah, Alice… can’t go home again, it’s no surprise really, only a very few find the way, and most of them don’t recognize it when they do. Delusions, too, die hard, only the savage regard pain as the measure of worth. Forgetting pain is convenient, remembering it, agonizing. But recovering the truth is worth the suffering, and our wonderland, though damaged, is safe in memory… for now.
I do know that the very first thing she's going to after A:MR she's going to return to Houndsitch Orphanage to dig up whatever secrets Bumby has in there (like going through casebooks/diaries/notes/etc whatever Bumby has written and maybe even search the entire building even the basement to see any further secrets...) which might lead to our next plot...
Because what you are looking at is the door for Alice's bedroom, from inside Alice's bedroom....Look at that scene a couple of times untill you realize that. X)
Hmm if Im not mistaken the reason why that 'doctor' see alice in her wonderland uniform its because of her mass hysteria, I remember a case in the real world that someone scream in pain and agonizing so deep, so hard, that people around him (or was it her) feel the pain she/he feeling, after some check up the doctor didn't find anything wrong with them, its like the pain were all in their mind but it doesnt really exist....truly an awesome and yet scary thing..
There was originally a 4th confrontation at Moorgate station after the Queen cutscene which confirmed that Lizzie was raped and murdered by Bumby before burning the house down as addressed by Alice herself.
Then what do you think we should do? TRY to stop this, or continue ignoring it even though it continues to happen with NO ONE trying to solve this problem at all.
@demyxiv Well actually according to Mcgee Alice hasn't snapped and Londerland is supposed to represent the optistimic future she has ahead of her which she can now blend Wonderland with the real world.
@MissyBooHentai, No if u read the Wiki for this, this is Londerland where Wonderland and London mixed in her mind, mostly likely I think this is were Alice escapes Reality with wonderland but is still in reality. Its confusing to explain really
@zonilo1 cont. If the fire never happened Alice would have abandoned Wonderland entirely and lived a normal life as a woman would at the time. I think Mcgee is also hinting that there maybe supernatural about Wonderland itself and also Alice herself which she may have gained due to her deep connection with Wonderland which she might be a a superpowered Victorian psychic warrior.
@LagmonX There was actually cut dialogue (a 4rth confrontation with Bumby at the station after the Red Queen sequence) that actually confirms that Bumby actually raped Lizzie as addressed by Alice herself
@demyxiv I think we should abandon the "sane" and "insane" dichotomy since I don't think Alice has a mental disorder like schizophrenia or anything but rather Wonderland is a product of her childhood imagination which she deeply felt a connection to eversince the fire (the original reason she was sent to the Asylum was because of her Trauma she had because historically normal people were also sent to the Asylum for minor reasons).
You shouldn't rely on wikis too much. Yep it leaves room for a Alice 3 since Alice has now moved on and put her tragic past behind her (although I do have a feeling she'll very most likely return to Oxford for memories sake) which she now has a new chapter of her life. Although I'm not so sure what's next out there that threatens her is uncertain.
She should've kicked him, Spartan Style.! -- But I'm still wondering... Was that in Alice's head too? She was bald and in a straight jacket in an Asylum.
I think there should have been a extra fight after the Dollmaker where you fight Bumby's Centaur form at the Jabberwock's lair where Alice's house was at in the first game to put that memory to rest and finally free from her self-guilt/pity. I think that would have been a better final boss fight...
wait I dont get the end.....is she like trapped in wonderland now? what's with the "transformation" from london-alice to wonderland-alice? and why did he kill her sister?
@FlyingRedKitten implied rape for lizzy by the doctor. and as for wonderland I don't even know. I think their saying its fixable or at least not as effed up anymore
Alice now knows it was the corrupted Doctor Angus Bumby all along he warped Alices's mind into Malice and now Madness. thankfully Doctor Angus Bumby failed to corrupt Alice's mind. Dr Bumby murdered Alices own family how could he?
They are her, in the end, they all need to be punished, and she thinks this because she blames herself for everything. She took too long to figure out what was happening, she's let Wonderland decay as she's picked up loose and false ends and as a result her guilt grows deeper.
but at one glance if the creator of Alice for help putting each firm has 10,000 signatures .... and go with 7330 signatures if you do ask a third signature or if the third party will not
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Bumby killed Alice's family. He was obsessed with Lizzie (Alice's sister) and snuck into her house and raped her. When the queen said "That noise wasn't Lizzie talking in her sleep" she meant when Bumby was raping her. To cover up the crime, Bumby started the fire. He also kept Lizzie's bedroom key, which is the Chapter 6 key.
That line really had me shook ngl
That line really had me shook ngl
Why did he do all that??
@@elongatedmanforever1252because he’s a monster
@@majimagaming934
He seems pretty stupid &
Cringe in my opinion.
i simply love that damn cat! seriously, did you heard what he said at the end? prrrrrrrrrfect!
I love the ending of this game! There are 4 main ways to interpret it according to the AM's Alice Wiki, but I interpreted it a bit differently. I think Alice's control over Wonderland means she can now open the link to it in reality & let someone else see it at her will. So Bumby did see her as THE Alice, b/c I don't think he'd tremble in fear from just her glare of rage. Afterwords, she can now blend both worlds in her perspective into a balanced match between both worlds. That's my view ^_^
*Sure, I think so as well cause there's even a segment of gameplay where you can walk as Bloody Alice with her blue-white clothes covered in blood in her real world, if I'm correct.*
Bumby is just a cringe villain
Lazy in fact.
BEST ENDING EVER! I just love how she like turns around and bumby is all like 'o my god' because like he sees it (the real alice) Then I just loved watching the prick get kicked in front of the train (GREAT TIMING)
Fyarae not kicked but pushed
I love the irony of Bumby trying to ruin Alice's mind with the Train and getting pushed in front of one himself
Fyarae not kicked but pushed
That was so lame how
He died.
Actually it's a shock reaction the same as "My God" which Alice used "My Lizzie" instead. The Queen is actually young Alice as said so by the artbook and Mcgee himself.
Looks like he just...
*puts on glasses*
Caught a train.
YEEEEEAH!
Nice one! 😆
Good job
Good job
That scene when Alice woke up in the asylum after killing the dollmaker. 4:30
Did that mean she mentally woke up? Or what exactly?
I took it as she let herself go from reality and is permanently in Wonderland to the point that the two worlds have bled into one another. Cheshire at the end says "we can't go home again", which could suggest she's stuck in whatever state she's in while in Wonderland. I believe her waking up in the asylum suggests that that's where her body is being kept (in an asylum), but her mind is not.
Your theory is correct. Alice mistook Bumby as a Centaur, because of the glowing eyes and the shadows. It imprinted into her mind and that's how she justified later what she saw that night.
Bumby really did all that
Or is she imagining him
Doing all that & its weird
How bumby got into
Their house & nobody
Heard anything??
it makes no sense.
Well I may have done too far (since it was from my frustrations) but I thought that Mcgee and the game (actually if you payed attention to the game very carefully enough) made it actually quite clear that the Queen is Alice's Psyche which in the first game she was Alice's self-guilt and the second game she represents Alice's childhood.
You forgot that centaurs also symbollized his lust, against Lizzie. He thinks that Lizzie is a tsundere and her mocks is actually a yes, that psycho...
That ending where she changed outfit, I think she embraced it and became courageous.
@RashekeeG1 No. I noticed it as well. The Alice in the game is so cynical of Hatter and some of the others, that at times she doesn't seem to have ever liked them. I think that look of guilt was her realizing that they were her friends, and it was her madness that warped them. Plus, even in their warped minds, they didn't forget that they did care about her and were hurt by it ("I tried to forget what you did, but I can't"). Afterwards, I think she'll be more kind to everyone. :)
According to Mcgee from the forums "Londerland is a visual and symbolic representation of Alice's merging of the psychological and real world. In the first game Alice overcame her internal demons to master her mental space."
Yea! We've all got a little Alice inside of us all!
I always thought she was the embodiment of Alice's ignorance to the abuse of the children and her sister, which explains the child body. Either way in-game it's perfectly understandable why she'd be seen as Lizzie, because it's not all that obvious and a lot of it hints to it being her even though the book blatantly says otherwise. I thought it was Lizzie until I saw the art. No need to be a jerk and go calling people "ignorant" just because they haven't seen all the memorabilia.
Thank heavens( no pun intended) that Alice has finally healed from her trauma since the Fire. I was indeed worried because McGee's series had a wiki and it had several interpretations of the ending, some of them pretty tragic and even sinister.
Actually, this IS a sequel. The first one is American McGee's Alice. Look it up. But you're right. The saga MUST continue!
Meh its a mid sequel imo.
"There are no centaurs in Oxford" -Red Queen
Alice is by far on of my favorite video game characters! She is by far the most unbreakable and relentless ones I've ever met, and the strongest after dealing with everything she's been through in life. I hope she's in a third game!
What I find funny is that the thing( train) that was destroying wonderland(also Alice) was the one thing that killed the doc in the end.
This game is pure amazing sauce on a gold plate being eaten with silver spoons and with a nice cup of tea.
Bye bye, Bumby... Although, I can't say we'll miss you much! >:D
Madness and Destruction. Oh Red Queen, how I love your craziness. ;)
Alright, just to start a debate. American Mcgee's Alice, or Madness Returns?
Personally I like MR because the gameplay is simply fantastic. However, American Mcgee's was just sooooo CREEEEPYYY.
Well another thing, Victorians spoke rather weird or rather poetic/melodramatic/sophisticated back in those times which may not make sense to modern ears. Although this might be a stereotype of course it was a different time back then.
My issue is the characters are
Mostly 1-note & I definitely think
Bumby is the worst part of them.
I love watching these clips as I watch them like a movie too. I really don't see why they couldn't make a movie out of this. >.< Would be great!~ Oh, well, just watching the clips from the game is still great.
This is my fav cut scene/cinematic. (: I love the cheshire cat saying what he says because it does hint to a possible third Alice. :D
@thegr8estone
ABSOLUTELY!!! They better make another one. Because cheshire said: 'Is safe in memory...FOR NOW.'
@TonksRules
I must agree, when I was in the queen's castle I tough the reaper thing was quite freaky... but that dollmaker is just.... epic freaky.
5:41 Now that's what I call an ironic death!
I'm so sad... This game has some truly great potentials: powerful voice acting; potent writing; an intriguing, non cookie-cutter, mindf**k story (highly surprising for a hack and slash); immersive atmosphere and art design; and IMO one of the most climactic build-up for final boss fight ever. The ending is also terrifically done. All these potentials were almost wasted due to rushed release and lack of evolving gameplay. Here's hoping we'll get to see Alice 3 in the future.
this does explain the blood on her dress, it was his all the time
Well Bumby did always have a thing for trains ^.^
5:36
THIS. IS. WONDERLAAAAAAAND!
I guess that may be linked to the Greek myth about the Centuars getting drunk and carrying off the bride during a wedding. (The part animal, part human morphology has been used as a metaphor for the struggle against the more basic, animalistic desires. Yes, such as lust.)
I knew it was Dr. Bumby all along.
That game ending made me get OCD of what happens
" In the second game she uses that power to defeat a real-world threat to her physical and mental self. In effect, by the end of Madness Returns, Alice has become a sort of "super hero" - able to blur the boundary between imagination and reality. This sort of thematic concept is present in a lot of hero tales. And it's echoed in the alchemy symbols found throughout the game."
Oh, look. A Boss Fight. I never thought I'd see the day. >_
Alice doesn't actually call her Lizzie, it's a shock reaction.
@Iostars I agree with you. I felt so many gaps while playing, and I thought that they could've done so much better with the gameplay. It's a wonderful setup for sure, but the execution was a bit rushed.
love the way she killed him
Thank you so much for uploading these! =D
They left it open for another, Puurrrrrrfectly acceptable
I've wondered too D: I think it was featured in the iPhone/iPad app during the A Dark Dream Chapter, but I never actually found the song "/
now hatter,mouse and rabbit are back and normal tea drunkers?
long hair alice reminds me of alessa from silent hill for some reason.....
Actually to clarify, it's a An exclamation of shock the same as "My God" which she uses "My Lizzie" instead.
SEQUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!
or naw
Well there's a proposal about a third game called Alice: Asylum. It's a prequel of both games and it's estimate to release in 2021.
Check the creator's channel in youtube.
or naw
I think the Looking Glass Line was the "Prototype" for the train of thought that Bumby put into her head during her therapy sessions until Bumby disproved of it and then the Infernal Train was created....
it was not bad but rather simple she pushes him casually to get hit by the train so I laughed hard at that
I watch all your clips like a movie. Thanks for uploading!
Red Queen told her the whole point!! shes really the best character too in the game!!
I would have to say that the Dollmaker may be one of the most gruesome looking bosses of all time....I've watched tons of horror games even and I can't think of a worse one....
Hes not a good villain
Though.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 I'm curious...what makes you say that? I haven't watched the game in a very long time...but I only remember loving the game. Don't remember anything wrong with him as a villain...
@@TonksRules
I have great dislike of him
Because he comes off
as 1-note Caricature made
To be a political talking points
about saying "people with
Power mistreating people
is bad" it's not subtle at all
& It's also lazy & predictable
Everyone knows that. it feels
Corny how he acts like a cartoon
Supervillain who does stuff cause
"Money" or he's a trafficker it
makes his character feel shallow
& Just bad just because &
That's not what makes a
Villain good, bumby barely
even Shows up in the game
& it's so on the nose that
He's the bad guy & he
Does all these convoluted
Nonsense like burn Alice's
House with Alice's family
inside & put Alice in a
Asylum & then Alice just
Kills him easily as he bumbles
Around looking stupid & Laughing Cartoonish it's terrible writing
at best.
@bpsauce2 O.O Really? :) When I told my friends this, they looked at me strange until I elaborated and then they understood it. They say my interpretation's really unique, which is good. I'm glad to see they aren't the only ones who like it. Thank you, glad I could make you see it in a different light. :)
Fantastic ! This video game is so good !
@MNHStudios 4:27-4:39 what was that suppose to mean?
the queen is lizzy she even says it
The ending should be more satisfying. We players should feel the push he deserves instead of just watching that push.
The final boss should've been like timed or something, a bad ending kind of way (like the original)
Ah, Alice… can’t go home again, it’s no surprise really, only a very few find the way, and most of them don’t recognize it when they do. Delusions, too, die hard, only the savage regard pain as the measure of worth. Forgetting pain is convenient, remembering it, agonizing. But recovering the truth is worth the suffering, and our wonderland, though damaged, is safe in memory… for now.
I do know that the very first thing she's going to after A:MR she's going to return to Houndsitch Orphanage to dig up whatever secrets Bumby has in there (like going through casebooks/diaries/notes/etc whatever Bumby has written and maybe even search the entire building even the basement to see any further secrets...) which might lead to our next plot...
Because what you are looking at is the door for Alice's bedroom, from inside Alice's bedroom....Look at that scene a couple of times untill you realize that. X)
@TheMarvelousDC so the key is the symbol of a centuar?
If there ever happens to be a movie I will watch it!
Hmm if Im not mistaken the reason why that 'doctor' see alice in her wonderland uniform its because of her mass hysteria, I remember a case in the real world that someone scream in pain and agonizing so deep, so hard, that people around him (or was it her) feel the pain she/he feeling, after some check up the doctor didn't find anything wrong with them, its like the pain were all in their mind but it doesnt really exist....truly an awesome and yet scary thing..
There was originally a 4th confrontation at Moorgate station after the Queen cutscene which confirmed that Lizzie was raped and murdered by Bumby before burning the house down as addressed by Alice herself.
Then what do you think we should do? TRY to stop this, or continue ignoring it even though it continues to happen with NO ONE trying to solve this problem at all.
@demyxiv
Well actually according to Mcgee Alice hasn't snapped and Londerland is supposed to represent the optistimic future she has ahead of her which she can now blend Wonderland with the real world.
wait, so is the queen of hearts Elizabeth, Alices sister?
I swear at the end she left the station and ended up in the Mania half of the Shivering Isles.
No it was a shock remark like "My God" which Alice used "My Lizzie" instead. The Queen is Young Alice.
@MissyBooHentai, No if u read the Wiki for this, this is Londerland where Wonderland and London mixed in her mind, mostly likely I think this is were Alice escapes Reality with wonderland but is still in reality. Its confusing to explain really
He actually says "Hide in your Sham"
My Lizze ! Queen Of Heart is Lizze Redell
I think another fitting thing that Alice could have said is "You've used and abused me but you will not Dispose me!"
5:38
Exacting revenge...LIKE A BOSS
It was a bad scene.
@zonilo1
cont. If the fire never happened Alice would have abandoned Wonderland entirely and lived a normal life as a woman would at the time. I think Mcgee is also hinting that there maybe supernatural about Wonderland itself and also Alice herself which she may have gained due to her deep connection with Wonderland which she might be a a superpowered Victorian psychic warrior.
@LagmonX
There was actually cut dialogue (a 4rth confrontation with Bumby at the station after the Red Queen sequence) that actually confirms that Bumby actually raped Lizzie as addressed by Alice herself
You know, as angry as the queen always is, she's kinda wise in her own way.
@demyxiv
I think we should abandon the "sane" and "insane" dichotomy since I don't think Alice has a mental disorder like schizophrenia or anything but rather Wonderland is a product of her childhood imagination which she deeply felt a connection to eversince the fire (the original reason she was sent to the Asylum was because of her Trauma she had because historically normal people were also sent to the Asylum for minor reasons).
What dose the Dollmaker say before you battle him... it's sounds like " I'm in your Satch, or snach" or " I'm in your stand." Help?
@zonilo1 I'm pretty sure there is a good ending (where she leaves the asylum, and the other with her rocking back and forth in fear).
could that so called replacement be Dorothy Gale though?
I actually mean that Mcgee actually said that the Queen has no connection to Lizzie.
For now....i'm always thinking of a sequel coming out...i can feel it.
You shouldn't rely on wikis too much. Yep it leaves room for a Alice 3 since Alice has now moved on and put her tragic past behind her (although I do have a feeling she'll very most likely return to Oxford for memories sake) which she now has a new chapter of her life. Although I'm not so sure what's next out there that threatens her is uncertain.
It's rather vice versa which shows most people don't pay close attention to things or read the developers words like Mcgee.
Yeah we need the third game. But who knows when that will ever happen?
Soooo what happen to her in the end? Did Alice stay in her WonderLand forever?
She should've kicked him, Spartan Style.!
--
But I'm still wondering... Was that in Alice's head too? She was bald and in a straight jacket in an Asylum.
I think there should have been a extra fight after the Dollmaker where you fight Bumby's Centaur form at the Jabberwock's lair where Alice's house was at in the first game to put that memory to rest and finally free from her self-guilt/pity. I think that would have been a better final boss fight...
there needs to be another game where like idk alice has her own kid and then the kid winds up in wonderland.. or something...
wait I dont get the end.....is she like trapped in wonderland now? what's with the "transformation" from london-alice to wonderland-alice? and why did he kill her sister?
@MNHStudios I really think the story has been told, no need to drag it on. Its made its point, time for McGee to go onto something else.
question! what console is this on?
@FlyingRedKitten implied rape for lizzy by the doctor. and as for wonderland I don't even know. I think their saying its fixable or at least not as effed up anymore
Alice now knows it was the corrupted Doctor Angus Bumby all along he warped Alices's mind into Malice and now Madness. thankfully Doctor Angus Bumby failed to corrupt Alice's mind. Dr Bumby murdered Alices own family how could he?
@supersonicgirl15 I'd say the Brood Mothers' process of creation makes it a lil' bit worse, but still close second though :P
2 weeks, aka when i posted, is not a long time ago, and when i had posted, it was not funded
They are her, in the end, they all need to be punished, and she thinks this because she blames herself for everything. She took too long to figure out what was happening, she's let Wonderland decay as she's picked up loose and false ends and as a result her guilt grows deeper.
but at one glance if the creator of Alice for help putting each firm has 10,000 signatures .... and go with 7330 signatures if you do ask a third signature or if the third party will not