Playing Preflop Poker The RIGHT Way | SplitSuit
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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SplitSuit takes the popular ‘Preflop Poker Quiz’ from Red Chip Poker and shares not only his own answers, but compares them to the average answers shared by other poker players. This video looks at default preflop lines when facing limpers, preflop raises, squeeze opportunities, and looks into refined topics like bet sizing.
All of these hands are from live poker $1/$2 and $2/$5, although the concepts are universal for online and 6max players as well. Enjoy and remember to ask any questions you have down below!
Loved the quiz and the approach. Hoping to see the next one soon as it definitely improves our approach to the game and also give a better understanding of how to play at certain situations. @Splitsuits Thanks a ton for sharing your learning videos, ideas and approach to the game,it has helped me improve my game a ton and helps me to keep working on it and taking it to the next level..
You're very welcome and I'm glad you liked it!
The j10 discussion is very interesting. Maybe I'm just addicted to suited connectors but it seems like a no brainer open to me, plays well multiway, can call some squeezes depending on stack depth/sizing, connects with tons of flop textures, ect ect.
Agreed. I'm never folding j10 there.
Me neither, not folding or calling. If I get re-raised I would evaluate. If I were in the BB or LP and someone else has raised I would call that so why not raise myself.
Would love the same quiz with postflop scenarios! Loved it
Loved this concept, I'd love to see more of this, especially with some harder questions. The majority of these questions were pretty simple and/or standard. A survey of some tough decisions would be very enlightening. Loving the content james, keep up the great work!
I think I may be making a new quiz soon - will certainly be tougher =)
Thanks James! love the interactive quizzes, get me to "think" more instead of just watching and hopefully absorbing the info. Please do more! appreciate your work!
You're very welcome. I didn't know people would enjoy this kind of video as much as they did - I'll be sure to review some of my other quizzes like this too! If you want to get a head start on my other ones, check them out here: www.splitsuit.com/poker-lessons-quizzes
I like this quiz, hope you do more. Helps improve my game.
This was fantastic. Thanks for producing it. I particularly liked your editorial to Q14 regarding people fooling themselves. I am probably one of the culprits. :D
Thanks Tomo - and glad you now have something to explore!
You mentioned that one question was meant to be a live situation. Did you specify live vs. online in the test questions? Aren't the answers to these questions potentially different depending on table make up even before you have any hand history on anyone? I'm thinking a casino table where there are obvious drunks/partiers playing. In that situation, I am making my range way wider when playing against these types of players.
77% I'm pretty happy with that score considering about a week or so ago it would have been a lot lower. Thanks to your vids I've been watching this past week. After doing this quiz I feel I might even do better if I did it again. :) Thank you James. I have a lot of trouble following most poker vids because they either talk to fast/loud or its way too complicated.
Wow Split... fantastic video! I love the concept and how many people participated in the survey. Please make more similar videos. I've always liked your videos and they are only getting better! By the way, I tend to agree with the majority votes. One thing I find a bit odd is all the people opening from early position with a 5x and 7.5x rather than the standard 2.5x or 3x. I would default fold to these larger sized raises from early position with marginal hands like AT and A3s without specific reads on my opponents, but I'm a proud nit who plays 24/10/3 online. I like your analysis of AJ compared to AT. I hear you about being aggressive, but I find it amazing how often the passive road is often the correct road. I like to play "passive aggressive"... for example, flatting with QQ or AK and then playing favorable flops with aggression. I only 4bet jam AK versus fish I have confident reads on. I'm a fan of folding those pretty middle suited connectors. One dude put it really good... what are you most likely to make with that sort of hand.... a pair... and then you're stuck with a one middle pair hand and obliged to call more streets drawing to 2 pair, etc, just compounding problems and spewing money. I like to fold them out and play the big hands or get in for cheap from the sb or bb. Dump them as well as smaller pairs from the cut off and button because you're fucked if the blinds squeeze. Mind you I've polished my games by logging over 500K Zoom hands just in the past year. Of course I would loosen up in regular or live games.
I think if we are 3betting AToff, AJoff, KQoff, some suite connectors, we going to have too many bluffs in our 3bettting range dont u think? I would fold AToff in that spot. I like to have a more balanced strategy.
Rafael Pegas agreed, we can't take EVERY squeeze spot
When does balance matter?
Rafael Pegas In terms of a "balanced strategy" you're right imho. But I think that balance becomes more and more irrelevant the more callers a raiser has, so I need to add more bluff hands when there are a lot of callers...
Marcus Kraßmann you've got that backwards. The more callers the less bluffs you want.
Postflop, yes. But pre?
Love this video! Your others are great for theory, math, etc., but this helps to put some real-life examples to it. I'm the type of person who likes to spend over 50% of my time taking practice quizzes/doing practice questions when prepping for an exam. This is "kind of" like that. More more!
Side-note: I would love to see some of these hands "play out" with difference scenarios. For example, you 3 bet with queens in the cutoff, 2 others you have position on call, and the flop comes K 9 7 rainbow. One of them raises 1/3 the pot. What do you do when it gets to you? Something like that (just off the top of my head!)
Great video, looking forward to see more of them in that quiz style :)
Highly appreciated and very useful video, especially combined with the quiz. Would love to see more similar quiz-video combinations on the channel. Keep it up! :)
Woot - I'm glad you liked it!
Fucking loved this did very well on it (paused the video) I would love to see more quizes like this and maybe next time throw in some spr training. I've watched all your videos definately my favorite poker vlog youtuber keep up the great work
Noted for sure Jeremy. I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
3 bet AT off plays bad post flop suited im definitely love it if it was suited but off fold. Not opening JT suited middle position is crazy. This was posted in 2017 though so times have changed
i hope you do more of these
This is a great video and goes very well with the quiz. The quiz was very interesting and I like the various options. Definitely would like to see more like this. Thanks!
You're very welcome Phil - I'm glad you liked it!
Great content - really nice to think about what I would do vs. your thoughts on the same hand. Thanks!
NITs everywhere...
Players at my limit tend to value suitedness and connectedness over high-card-equity.
Lots of players at my level think having two face cards [AJo / KQo / KJs] is *way* better than having a hand like ATo.
(this is in regards to the whole "AJ being valued *way* higher than AT thing" and the "lying about opening JTs from early middle)
There are folders in this game. I could have a future in this game. Great lesson!!
In my opinion the QJ hand is a better spot for squeezing than the A10 or even AJ hands. Reason being the position of the opener. In both A10 and AJ the opener is MP with standard size bet, which can mean premium or a hand that dominates ours. Im not saying squeezing is not justifiable there, I just think is safer doing it in the QJ situation, which Im surprised Splitsuit recommended to fold; in it, opener is in steal position which widens his range enough to be a safer squeezing spot. What are your thoughts?
Cool video, I took the quiz when it was released and this makes the quiz feel more complete to me
Great quiz and breakdown video.
Really good even for just playing with friends.
I realized I know what Im supposed to be doing but I play on the tighter side. I play 2-100 spread live because my state isnt a true NLHE state, so that game is a bit different. If you 3bet and 4 bet a lot you create large pots that price people in and you limit your ability to deny equity on the turn. So you see some light 3betting and some cold 4s with lots of pre flop folds.
Question 5 is a good example, my instinct is to squeeze but in 2-100 I almost never take that line. Wondering what your thoughts are on squeezing in spread limit.
Thanks for the videos James.
I'm kind of amazed that I answered the same as him for every question, I thought my preflop game was pretty bad
cool points thanks. especially cool point about difference in perceived value of AJ v AT. Also good point about quiz making and putting in at least 1 anti troll question lol
Isn't calling the pocket 3's in the first scenario abit odd? Unless you hit your set (which you are unlikely to do), you will most likely be behind on the flop. So the most likely scenario is for you to call 20$ just to fold the flop anyway.
MartialNico that’s what I was thinking. But the fact that he has a deep stack makes it worth the call to catch your set. But I’m definitely folding early in a tournament
Very good informative video ...
Extremely surprised you're folding J10H I would definitely be open raising
Thanks! And yeah, with info my answer can swing wildly with JTs there =)
This was the question i was most surprised by as well. I for sure would open raise. Admittedly though, i sometimes get myself in trouble with dominated hands like KQ, KJ, and QJ. Thanks for the video! Gave me a lot to think about.
thx, Split. this was a good preflop refresher.
Loved this! You are on to something with this format.
Noted, thanks John!
depends on player , and also how my cards are running.
at off is a cold call mostly.
this was great. Definitely got me to sign up for redchip lol I scored 88% not bad. I do think i answered a few questions with some strange bias knowing the answers would be compared to other people. I would NEVER flat AA in that spot in an actual game but answered that way for who knows what reason on the quiz... anyways would LOVE to see more of these in the future.
As always another great vid...thanks for all your works that goes into making these.
Not sure if its been mentioned already but could you do a vid showing your two cards which have missed the flop, explain whether to 'C' bet, check-check raise etc?
My main weakness is missing the flop then wasting chips with C bets & bluffing too often.
Thanks Tony! There are a lot of good CBing videos on Red Chip Poker that would go much further into depth and would likely be right up your alley...
Fold J 10 suited in mid position I could never 😂😂 calling any 3bet hoping nobody 4 bets, I’ll fold to a 4 bet
Thank you so much for this video....I have a long way to go....Well presented and easily understood even for me...
You're very welcome Connie!
Great idea for a video and I appreciate the discussion in the comments as well. I think that the "default" answer is the one that you ar most likely to employ given know other information about the game almost as if it were the first decision that you had to make in the game that might be questionable. I found myself thinking about how often I might use each of the options just to establish table image in the games that were presented. And I think that my answers agreed with your line of thought in all but the last question. I don't agree with risking $16 to win $5 when I find it unlikely that you will actually have zero opponents here without having more information. I feel that as a default that I am much more likely to flat or raise a small amount and want a multi-way confrontation with JTs and build a pot for cheap rather than risk a lot and bloat a pot. In live games I tend to get looked up more when my opponents don't know me and I don't know them and so I tend to be more passive and set up my table image as a nit or weak-passive at first while I learn the nuances of the game and then switch gears later on.
i got 93.2 which is better than i thought because a couple plays i was a bit iffy on.
I would really like to take the quiz but I can't see the numbers.
I have a question which is not quite related to the topic but still very important: "How one doesn't go on TILT after several BAD-beats in a row. Like if suppose I've been on a downeard spiral for a few days abd now when I have perfect spot to double up I loose to incredible suck-out (like runner-runner or 2-outer and so on) And ok, I can handle 2 of these...but when I have like more than 3 in one session....I just loose it. It seems that something is rigged or just made this way so that I should lose.." How can I handle these emotions.
I can see folding the 3s raising sometine to mix it up but raise to 40 calling is best
I think all three options with qjo are ok. calling is the worst probably but you havent really provided a good reason not to 3b, we have decent blockers and our hand is connected and make some nut straights and reasonable top pairs.
I dislike QJ due to lack of blockers (reduces outright preflop folds) and I think postflop is rougher as well. You certainly could 3bet it - but I'd prefer to have a bit of info on FE before adding hands like QJo into my squeeze range here.
This was a great exercise / video. Thanks.
I, knowingly, chose a couple of "nitty" folds.
An occasional pre-flop fold is the least expensive "mistake" that I can make.
So, I'm still basically still satisfied with my answers.
I do get your points though.
Cheers
You're very welcome Darcy!
Does people maybe tend to be nitty because they are used to Zoom tables?
Certainly possible - but I don't know if Zoom players dominated the sample size of those that took this quiz.
i took the test like you said.. think it as default.. so i did it fast.. 86% i thought it as a tournament player, which i am. so the sizing quizzes went wrong because of that.. smaller will do the same job and give better odds for your steals in tournament poker. and that AT spot is waayyy different from that AJ one imo. it was close between 3bet or fold... but risking too many chips in a close spot against probably dominating range isnt a default option in my mind.
In one life to live (MTTs), that makes more sense. When a reload is as simple as reaching in my pocket and the longer lasting value of my image benefits me - I don't mind defaulting more aggro.
yeah for sure -b Love your videos, keep em coming! :)
I think I’m the last one the reason for the sizing is they people are online players or mostly taught by online players, so they don’t get live poker
This is an amazing video dude. Helping sooo much
Great quiz. Thank you. I'd folded the AKs, because have info that EP3 player opens only AA )
In the hands where flatting is the recommended answer with mid/small suited connex/1-gappers wouldn't we want to have deeper stacks than we saw in the examples? Something in the ballpark of 20x the open for 56s or better and 30x for gappers?
Only one i disagree with is the pocket 3's at the very start. I get youre trying to set mine but 5x BB 4 handed is just so pricey for such a small pair. Maybe im just too nitty and ill try ur way but i just see myself running out of 5 blinds 88% of the time
Hey, love your videos! I have a question for you/potential vid subject. I'm finding very small c-bets in micros (.05/.10 to .25/.50) to be massively effective. Say you raise to 3x in late position with A5s, BB defends, and the flop comes a total brick for you... J72 rainbow with a backdoor FD. BB checks, and there are 6.5 BBs in the pot. Related to your concept of opponent elasticity, I think most fish are indifferent here between a 2 BB bet and a 4 BB bet, and saving those 2 BBs when your fishy opponent annoyingly has J2o is super valuable. And when you have a good hand, you can just bet more... fish won't notice! And maybe even against slightly more sophisticated opponents, you could use this on some nutted hands that block a lot (say, AA on A97 board), to defend your c-bet range and encourage more elastic players to come along for the party when you actually do have a nutter. Thoughts?
Nice video. In third hand what would you do if one of the villains four bets your 3 bet with AT? Fold at that point? With so many still in, I might lean towards initial fold unless I knew opponents not capable of 4bet. If I were AT suited or maybe A5, A4 suited then maybe more comfortable with 3bet
I don't think squeeze should be your "default" with AT there. It's a play to do some percent of the time but probably not more than not
Also when ur raising your going for "yeah you better fold" raise sizes to me, is that because its safer to only take ur queens against 2-3 others? And would be trying to milk the other players another street just too risky in the long run to really run a profit off consistently?
last question JTs is a hand that work well with multiway pot why isolate at all cost ?
Ive learned a bit here and there. Thank you.
3:50 ATo in the CO with 4x raise and call in front of you. I would not 3b here. In the games I play I am guaranteed a call, probably 2 calls. Even in position AT is not what you want in a bloated pot.
BTW, what's with the monster raises? I haven't seen raises like these in more than 10 years.
I think Q-9 was the only one I missed. I chose smooth call w/the thinking that the stacks behind would make a move for the dead money in the pot ESPECIALLY the 1.2k on the bttn. That way I would come over the top of them and jam. However not sure on that thinking here maybe someone could answer.
I love it! I would love to see more!
To be fair i think people opens J10 suited because it is so pretty and fun to play, like QJs. Guilty of that aswell :P
10Js one of my favs. I open that UTG all day and I love to 3bet with position.
The only that is killing me is the pocket 33s. Listening to Johnathan Little, pocket 33s has great implied odds in late position. However, in early position and Blinds, he recommended folding. Due to the fact that you can make bottom set at best and you set your self up in a horrible spot in later streets. What do you guys think?
That its wrong. How are you ever in a horrible spot with a flopped set enough times to be so afraid of it?
Very informative Split Suit. Thank you
Loved the video. It's very helpful. Thanks!
I don't raise as much or as often as the video suggests, mainly because I sometimes don't get as much action as I'd like. Does this imply that my table is too nitty and that I need to table change or do I adapt and raise less and less often to play more hands?
hey Split!!!the best content on youtube brother!tnx
Thank you so much for the kind words Andy!
hi - little confused here, in your common leaks (cold calling video), you show folding AQo against an EP raise, flatting AK against MP open, and folding 44 and 56s in the blinds. here, you show squeezing AT/AJ, calling with 8Ts and pocket pair in the blinds. perhaps i'm not getting the nuances of why, can you please elaborate?
Great video.
Great job.
Thanks Stavros!
Shouldn’t you always be raising the same amount pre-flop as to not give away your hand?
I learned more from reading these comments than any poker book.
I absolutely loved this video, nice idea (I'm probably a bit biased because I got a pretty good 89% score on the quiz). Maybe do something similar for post-flop?
How would this differ in a tournament setting, just slightly tighter right?
98.9. Phew! Great content as always, Split!
Cool video, very helpful.
Fold ace 3 suit but not 8-10? Is that because 8-10 has higher odds to get a straight than a3? Or is it because youve got a better chance at a mid pair?
1. You don't close the action in the A3s scenario -- you could face a 3-bet behind you. 2. You're getting 1.4:1 odds with the A3s and 4:1 odds with the T8s. 3. If you flop top pair with the A3s you could be good but don't really know if you face any heat, especially since an ace on the flop will frequently be bet by your opponent(s) representing a pair of aces (with a better kicker), whereas if you face heat with top pair with T8s it's easier to get away from, especially if an over card comes on the turn or river -- which amounts to losing less with the T8s overall when you connect with the board but lose. 4. You can't make the nut straight using both cards with A3s, but you can with T8s, plus it's easier to make a straight. 5. On the other hand, A3s will make the nut flush whereas the T8s won't. Calling with T8s is a no-brainer, mainly for the first two reasons -- closing the action and 4:1 odds. Calling with A3s is a close call, imo, and I would frequently do so in most games I play, but I may be wrong to do so.
I disagree only on the last one. 8x seems a bit exaggerated with 4 players left to act. You are shrinking their range by forcing them to call with almost premium hands.
I would like to ask you one question. How often are you ahead every time you see a flop? Besides, you will probably fold to a 3 bet pretty much all the time, trying a light 4 bet in the situation you put yourself would be a bit reckless and finally, this is very dependent on the stakes you are playing, but most of the time, amateur and recreational players will play their hands if they like their hands, in other words, there are not many hands that they would fold for 16$ but call for 8$.
This is my honest opinion on the last hand, and I totally agree with all the other decisions you made. I would really appreciate an answer to my thoughts. Thank you for the videos!
Hey Juan, you're very welcome for the video! I dig into my answer in this podcast episode: redchippoker.com/attacking-limpers/
Enjoy it!
awesome man, i appreciate that u take the time to read our replies. Thank you im listening to the podcast now.
You're very welcome =)
On the QJo hand, is 3-betting out of the question here? True, we don't block premium hands other than QQ, but, if we get 4-bet, we can safely fold, and if we get called, at least we have position and can proceed with caution on the flop. Granted, if we do get called, AQ, KQ and KJ make up a large chunk of the raiser's calling range, so we run the risk of being dominated when we flop top pair. Also, I suppose if we are including QJo in our 3-betting range, we're probably going to be 3-betting too often*.
*Then again, at a $1/$2 game, I don't care much about balance. I'd prefer to be aggressive and 3-bet more often, then slow down if it looks like the table is adjusting.
3betting isn't out of the question, no. I just dislike QJ due to lack of blockers (reduces outright preflop folds) and I think postflop is rougher as well. You certainly could 3bet it - but I'd prefer to have a bit of info on FE before adding hands like QJo into my squeeze range here.
Fair enough - thanks for the response and for the videos!
Hey Splitsuit. I was in a 1/2 scenario like the one mentioned at 14:23 with the pocket fours. Actually its more similar to the pocket 33 because I was the original raiser from UTG+1. I raise it to $12 and get 2 callers, then a guy from like hjack/cutoff raises to $45, (he only has like 140 behind), he gets a caller from someone on his left (not the blinds, button I think) And then it folds to me. I took some time because I wasnt sure what to do. I realized I shouldve studied effective stacks and implied odds a little more at this point. plus I still had two guys to the left of me so I wasnt sure what they were going to do. do the times they shove and im forced to fold preflop justify a fold there ? because I folded and I knew if I didnt hit a set I would most likely have to fold on the flop. Which I actually ended up doing, after the two guys to my left both cold called the extra $33. I wouldve hit a set, and then the original raiser with 140 behind shoves when it gets to him. Wouldve won a big pot if I called but felt like I would be burning money when I fold. This is the type of conundrum I find myself in because in tournaments I would set mine there because the chips arent worth a lot if there arent a lot of them you know so risking portions of them make since to increase it in the long run but in cash games, in weird scenarios like this with wild semi unknown players im not sure what to do. Ive seen preflop action before in the weekly home game I go to where a lot of regs come to and I myself have started becoming a reg. Thanks in advance, sorry for the long message I just have been struggling on this scenario
Very good video !! Thanks
You're very welcome!
totally agree with John here. You cannot talk About theoretically correct Play but then assume have a skill Edge. Yes i am not folding T8s in that spot in a live game because i know i can Play the Hand. i know i have a postflop Edge. i know i have relative Position by having the raiser to my left. But i know that is the Kind of spot a lot of weaker Players are just Burning Money. Thus the preflop call is not correct in a vacuum. It is not possible for every Player to have a skill Edge on the "table". the call is only fine for those who do have that skill Edge (and they are probably not needing that advise). Squeezing ATo every single time in that spot will most likely get you crushed by Players who are somewhat competent. against fish with wider range and non existent postflop skills it is fine. but we dont have that Information About villain Right?
I really can't reconcile your advice here with respect to calls/raises from the blinds with your advice you gave in "Fix your poker leaks." In "Fix your poker leaks" you advised to either fold or in the blinds with non-premium hands. Here you state that it would take a crowbar to get you away from 10 8s from the big blind in a multiway raised pot.
I totally understand. That said, the 'fix your poker leaks in the blinds' video is like 6 years old and not only has the game changed a lot since then, but so has my own strategy.
JTs is one of the best hands in the game in terms of post-flop playability. I am always open-raising it and calling 3-bets with it. Just too good of a hand.
More often than not I do too - there are just some spots (like that one) where I'm tighter with it.
Great video , Can you do the same video format for each street?
Very possible =)
t8s i do all 3 in 6max but fullring im more likely to fold because we are oop and can easily be dominated in everway
if you rise with a10 aj preflop , even tho you have position , what happens when you get called and miss the flop like totally ?!? and what hppens when you get 4bet preflop ? is there something im missing ? is this just to squeeze and take the blinds right in that moment or what ? i see it as an oportunity to get into a huge mess with cbets or bluffs afterwards , where i can just wait for a better hand to do that. some pro can explain ?
Just remember that when playing poker, there are no such things as "never" or "always."
There _is_ a baseline, a sort of default action for almost all situations and it's up to us to identify all the other information so that we can deviate from default properly for the given situation, given opponent, and all the intangible variables.
Hi James,Good work again :) I agree with 80 percent of your answers BUT Could you please tell me what kind of a flop will make you happy with 3-3 oop against 3 guys act behind you?:D How are you going to make money? Odds are ok,but odds arent everything.Risking 20 dollars and waiting for hitting your 3 and expecting others to hit their cards and make some money cannot be the optimal strategy I guess:) There is no flop in the planet that can make you happy without 3 :) Actually even with 3 you wont feel comfortable and wont be able to get the maximum value out of position :) If I was on the button,I might have called,If Im ok with double or triple barreling.Im sorry but I dont agree with you:) THIS IS FOLD and folding is the optimal one,not the nitty one :)
"Odds are ok,but odds arent everything" This is poker...what else are you basing your decisions on?
"Actually even with 3 you wont feel comfortable and wont be able to get the maximum value out of position" I'm feeling SUPER comfortable on any flop with a 3. I also think you can easily max value with a set even OOP especially when you're not 500bb deep or anything...
I have same opinion with you, Eses Atiyorsun
1) The pot odds is 4:1, and the odd for 33 hit the set is 7:1
2) If 33 hit the set, look like we get the money we lost from (1) back only when opponent hit two pair or better (set of deuce) when we are OOP
@@mrgoldengun95 Implied odds my friend ;). No-one ever sees the set mine coming!
this is the guy I would defiantly target
after watching the video my weakest answers were 3, 5, 7, 14, 15. i folded 3 because it didn't feel like a strong enough hand for what would be a pretty bloated pot if called. Q5 i elected to 3bet. Q7 i called, but you are right it's similar to ATo. Q14 i opened, but i didn't consider the stack sizes though i normally would open from EP/MP. Q15 i raised to $8 for reasons i can't even explain.
Good job on comparing your answers and getting your poker brain jogging!
I think Q15 was "raise to 8$" for a lot of people, because that's what online players are taught (raise 3bb + 1bb for each limper). I think that's what you'll see most often online, while live is obviously a pretty different scenario.
Yup. So a perfect place to see "the average player is going to isolate with JTs here" - but sizing differs massively =)
Ak utg or qq kk aa utg...
Do you limp wait for a 3bet or open raise.
Sometimes when i limp, happened to be no raiser and in the end going into the flop with a premium hand, creating problem for myself post flop.
The text on top of the bar chart bars is difficult to read for colourblind people (deutan).
im a nit LAG who plays for stacks based on feel.. i steal small pots been on both sides of coolers and i dont like the idea of committing 12% of my stack without 4 to1 on my money.. espc to setmine with 3s
Not sure if you are joking - but your numbers are an absolute mess on the 33 hand lol
Great job thanks for your effort
I was really surprised about folding QJ off on the $12 bet. I'm surprise with A10 or AJ a 3bet is the best but QJ is a fold? I would be pretty happy seeing QJ off, but I'm a very new player and would love reasoning for the decision. Cheers
Btw love the channel, so much good content
I'm so glad you are digging the channel!
If you call the QJo you are almost certainly going 4way to the flop (since the open-limper almost certainly calls), if not even more to the flop. That makes the SPR less attractive and it'll be quite difficult to figure out when single pairs are worth holding on to and when you should let go of them.
Just wanted to rant a little about what happened to today at a poker table. 1-2 no limit poker and I 3 bet my opponents raise of 12 to 50. he calls. I was holding pocket Aces of course and then the flop shows up, nothing was suited but there was a Q, J And 5. ok I all in (300 was max buyin) and he thought a while and then calls. turns a 9, rivers a 9. then he showed me his hand, a 9 and 5 offsuit and he somehow manages to get a full house over my pocket Aces. Crazy people out there. who calls 50 in a 1-2 no limit game with 5,9 offsuit?
at 17:34 that j10 suited hand. is making it 8x after just 1 limper not insanely big? or has this to do with the deep stack (350bb)? since I play online with a starting stack of 100bb i'm not used to opening this big. use to think standard 3x open +1bb cause of the limper= opening at 4x.
Hey Danny, that is the default sizing formula, yes (3x+1bb/limper). However, I explain my thoughts about the larger sizing in this podcast episode: redchippoker.com/attacking-limpers/
Thank you, learning a lot from video.
Ok, Splitsuit. I understand the whole blockers idea when it comes to bluff squeezing, but why a hand like ATo or AJo? It doesn't flop pretty well (there are not many flops where you're gonna feel pretty chill betting aggresively) and if you get 4-bet you have to absolutely fold your equity. While I understand that a live player probably isn't thinking about 4-bet bluffing, I do believe that people tilt and eventually will start to play back at you when they get mad at your constant 3-betting, so when that moment comes I'd rather have something like T9s that I can flat IP (if deep, of course) and play from there. And if we wanna squeeze something with a blocker, why not the whole 16 combos of A2-A5 that can flop straight and flush draws? It has the same issues as ATo but we will have more mobility like flopping top pair + straight draw or flush draw. You also have all the broadway suited combos that have more mobility than ATo. And just for the record, I'm not talking about balance or "having too many bluffs on our range" but rather to avoid tricky spots with very marginal hands.
Hey Firo. A few things:
1. Given the SPR in all of the 3bet pots you won't have huge playability. So any extra playability that A2s might offer is pretty much negated given SPR.
2. They will shift and adjust at some point, yes - but remember the original assumption was that all of these hands are at brand-new tables. So that consideration isn't applicable here (and I'm not advocating squeezing with AT each and every time =) ).
3. Most people don't 4bet enough, nor is there usually enough room to flat a 4bet anyway (unless you are playing very deep). So I'm focused on their outright foldv3bet % AND edge when they just flat my 3bet.
Hopefully that helps =)
Don't agree on the SPR factor. If you flop an FD or a wheel draw you have enough equity to go with it on a 3-5 SPR pot (against overpairs around 45% too 30%) plus fold equity if they decide to call flop but fold turn a lot. You can also play with backdoor equity and I'm saying this after playing my fair share of 3-bet and 4-bet pots with these type of hands. Also, flatting 4-bets can be useful if you know how to play very low SPR pots and you know your opponent is capable of making moves so you can do something postflop (You could bluff AK if you flop an SD with T9s and you can bluff QQ or even KK if the flop comes A high and your boy is nitty). You can also 5-bet bluff wheel aces if villain is 4-bet folding 99-JJ, AQ which is another reason to 3-bet with them.
Respectfully, I think there is some overestimation of longterm edge in small SPR pots happening (both in 3bet and 4bet+).
You say that, but then you say that you have edge if you get called with ATo that has less actual mobility postflop than T9s...
That fact that the SPR is smaller inherently reduces mobility - that's the main issue. Try plugging ATo vs T9s into Flopzilla+HoldEQ vs some typical callv3bet ranges and check out the hot cold equities. Sure T9s hits more flops when you factor in draws and the like - but that equity realization typically means getting it AI behind postflop.
hmmm... I wonder if the score means anything? 95.5% and I am a losing player last 14 months live. Am I suppose to score high in this quiz or the lower the better?
A higher score is better =)
12:20 AKs i think youre completely incorrect on this one, 4 people left behind, button SB & BB left to act theres no way positions are going to leave a 6 way pot for $20, you let actions raise, and then you 4 bet, implying your power. alot more is gained out of calling than 3betting here