How to Do Water Drop Photography | Testing the MIOPS Splash Kit
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2019
- Water Drop Photography is an exciting photo idea for days when you just can't face going out to do your photography. In this tutorial we go through everything from the live photo shoot, to the Lightroom editing and finish with a beautiful final print. In this fun macro photography project we also put the MIOPS Splash Water Drop Kit to the test.
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Thanks Adam for this, I bought this setup early on after seeing your early water drop videos. It's a great comparison and I agree having to tap back through the app for every tweak can become maddening!
Excellent tutorial. Gifted myself the Pluto Valve as I aready had the Pluto trigger. Getting some really pleasing images. The fine tuning can be a pain but when you get it dialled init's an absolute joy. Thanks for a great series of videos.
You are very good at giving all the instructions, very clear. Too complicated for me but I enjoy watching you!
Excellent. It’s so well presented and straightforward to understand. I might even give it a go myself 😁
Top drawer tutorial as always.
Thanks buddy.
Excellent video Adam, always love your water drop work 😊
Thanks Paul
I bought a Miops a while back and shared the results on your FB page.....I’ll be upgrading to the splash art kit when funds allow
Thanks Adam nice presentation. Keep it up 👌👍
Thank you for all of your videos. I am learning so much from them!
If possible, I would like to see how the MIOPS splash trigger copes with the water/xantham gum over a good amount of time (example a few months/years) and if it gets clogged up.
Thank you.
great tutorials mate just ordered a splash art kit I'm feed up. stuck in house something to mess about with
Thank you for all your vids! :)
Thanks buddy.
Always keep coming back to your water drop videos! Really enjoy them. Having just bought a MIOPS Splash kit I wondered if you would share your height of kit and MIOPS settings?
Been looking into the MIOPS dongle to use for timelapse photography. Good to hear your thoughts on the splash kit and how it compared to your other kit. Final image looked great too Adam 👍
Thanks for putting this video together. Just started water drops and like you said, I agree it is frustrating when the drops are never the same when they fall out .... ahhhhhhh lol
OK Adam, I now need to dredge out my Pluto Trigger Water Drop kit again. Thanks for the xanthan gum suggestion.
Love it, have been thinking about giving this a go having watched some of the masterclass but wasn't sure about this kit. Might see if there are any deals this week. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks Chris. Really appreciate your support here and on the Raw Room.
Hello adam,
I agree with you, the MIOPS is not as consistent as the Splash Art Kit II. If I have a good setting, the shape changes every time or suddenly a crown appears. Fortunately I can now work with both and see which one I like best. I always enjoy watching your video tutorials.
Greetings from the Netherlands.
Gino,
Great tutorial as ever. Could I ask for a little more information about you remote triggers for the flashes I would be interested to know what you use.
Thank you. Helped me startup easily.
Ha. I was literally just looking at your image on Twitter. Looks great Richard and particularly liked your colour combination.
@@Firstmanphotography haha spooky. Bloody addictive isn't it. But thx again it was a great help in starting out. The Miops isn't bad but with the xanthum a bit varible. Good job flash batteries are cheap lol.
Miops nozzle has been upgraded and is now aluminum or an alloy of some sort
Hi great video in your opinion is the miop better than the splash art thanks again paul
Great video. Could you fabricate a metal tip to put on the end of the nozzel?
very good video at what speed does the camera work? Congratulations
Thanks for the video. Where is the camera compatibility list for this system please?
Great Video
I love your Stand.
Where can I buy so one?
Thanks
Hi Adam I to have the Miops splash art kit and like you have noticed a fair amount of inconsistency in the drops, I’m going to try using those blocks of jelly that can be found in supermarkets, also I will try using a couple of drops of soap in the water as that should help to break the surface tension of the water and aid it’s exit from the dropper, what could go wrong 🤔 oh yeah get a foam mushroom . Lol
cool sys for that sort of photography
Hi what kind of flash and trigger do you use I’m looking to get one?
very nice. just purchased pluto trigger system. do you use a radio transmitter on camera to drive speedlites and pluto connected to camera with a cable ? many people seem to say it makes synchro and repetitivity difficult due to the processing time of the camera (strange, just a trigger) and it is better to connect pluto to flash with a wire or xpro transmitter and point pluto IR transmitter to the camera set to 1-2 sec. so the drive of the flash is very fast. what do you think ? instead of xanthan gum, my shop advises Guar. do you know it ?
Hi
I'm interested in purchasing the splash art kit , but was wondering if you can use it with the nikon d3400.
Hi Adam, I know its a while since you did these videos, I still follow your landscape stuff and came back to this as I decided to have another crack at doing some drops. First time to use the R5 with the Miops and after 2 days and trying every setting I could think of I cannot make it trigger the shutter (all else works but the shutter will not fire). I tried it on my Hassie X1D II and managed to make it work (but don't have macro lens)....Have you tried the Miops on the R5? Is there some setting I'm might be forgetting about? I asked Miops they can't help.....cheers. Ken
Have you tried water repellent like RainEX on the nozzle?? That might help
Where did you get that Arm and the end piece to hold the miops splash?
Is't OK to add the Xanthan gum to the MIOPS splash kit? Thank you.
Can I use a long lens for this, instead of macro - I have a Canon 100-400mm f/4.5?
Will this water dropper work with The Pluto? I ask because the water dropper that came with my Pluto trigger is next to useless. Inconsistent droplets, sometimes not dropping two drops when it should, sometimes letting a dribble through. Hopeless with milk or xantham gun thickened water.
I use sony's 24 70 lens, can I capture water drops? Hope you reply
What actually triggers the shutter and flash? Is it just a timing thing that you manually set?
Hi Adam, great video. As usual very easy to understand. Can I ask, do you know if the Splash Art 2 is compatible with the Fujifilm X-T3? Thanks, Mike
Thank you Adam for the video. While it may not be as good as the SplashArt it appears to be the only option for Fujifilm shooters. I got a response back when I asked via eBay if the X-T3 is supported. The person said they had timing issues so it is not compatible. It saved me some money as after researching I found the shutter trigger cable is the same for the Canon EOS R and FujiFilm X-T3 is the same and I was getting ready to order. I'm guessing that means the MIOPS Splash while not as accurate a dripper (according to your testing) the app is probably better than the box controller of the SplashArt kit.
Great video again Adam. IMO the other tall red shot was much more interesting. Could you not just have easily spot healed that little bubble?
Yes probably. I decided not to use that one though because the crown was facing away from the lens. If it had faced towards the lens it definitely would have been the winner for me too.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Really appreciate the comment.
Instead of cranking Dehaze you can also check the “visualize spots” box on the bottom and it shows them real nice.
Awesome thanks. Didn’t know about that. I’ll have a play.
Have you any experience with the pluto valve?
Really liked the video. I see that you are using a macro lens. Trouble is, they have very shallow depth of field. How are you achieving great depth of field at such close proximity to the drop. Even at f16 I’m not getting sufficient DOF with my 80mm 1:1 macro lens.
Hi, I noticed that my Miops splash kit drops a double drops every time, if I set it up for 1 drop gives me 2 drops and if I set it up for 2 drops gives me a 4 drops or more. What can I do to correct this.
The MIOPS unit is on special at the moment for USD99 (Black Friday Sale). The SplashArt unit is approx USD192 (GBP149). So perhaps your getting a better metal unit and control box from SplashArt comes for the additional USD93. Pricing is approx and doesn't include shipping. Adam does briefly mention that MIOPS is cheap but just wanted put some numbers to it.
Will i can get this effect not using MIOPS, Pluto or Splash art?
Hi, I seem to have understood that Miops can be used either with its command or with the mobile phone through its App, right? What is the best solution in your opinion? Thank you
hello, all tutos i looked before yours use 1-2 sec exposure on camera and they must switch off all lights in the room and background is dull. you are shooting at 1/200 sec !!! i know freezing motion is done by flash. also they use flash perpendiculat to optical axis while you point it 45 degrees. does it help to lighten the blue or grey background and make your beautiful colors ?
Love the video! Not to be a downer though, I bought this from the amazon provider. And the miops kit I got wont release any water at all. Am I doing something wrong?!
Mike Rice - No, I had the same issue. It was faulty and I had to return it.
I have used xantham gum just fine in mine
This great! I have all those items to do this but i am very curious about your stand. What do i need to buy to make the stand you have?
It's just a clamp stand.......common in a chemistry lab. They're £20 or so on Amazon.
First Man Photography great! Thank you
This is like a blast from the past, wasn't water drop content some of your first breakout stuff?
Ha yeah. Exactly that. Like to dip back once every couple of years to make a video about it.
Hey Adam, do you always leave your lights on when you do water drop photography? I am just trying to get a better understanding of doing it! I have another trigger that I like, one day I will upgrade to splash art but they are definitely not as easy to get in the United States
Yes. Without the flash at f11, 1/200 second and ISO400-640 the frame will be very dark with just ambient lighting.
What I didn't get was how you were tripping the camera shutter at the right time. Is that a function of a delay set from when the drop is released and controlled by the app? Does splash 2 come with its own app or does the app you used work for both setups?
Bluetooth connects to the Miops. MIOPS connects to the camera via the orange wire and fires the camera depending on the delay you set. Camera fires the flashes. The SplashArt 2 doesn’t require a phone. It’s a separate unit that essentially does the same thing........doesn’t work with as many cameras though.
Have you tried the pluto trigger? It has a metal valve end. That was the one I've been thinking about getting.
I got it and I'm happy witht it. It has a certain "random" factor to it. I dial it in and am nearly there and then I lose everything and never get that amazing drop back. Might be my setup aswell. Not sure but I LOVE the Pluto trigger alone for the versatility it allows you to have. Wireless shutter, Bulb and timelapse modes if your camera doesn't have them.
Thanks for the info. First man was saying the Miops might be better if it had a metal tip, which the pluto looks like it has. I had been looking at the Pluto because of its versatility.
I consulted Miops and they indicated that you can change the plastic nozzle for a metal one (1/4×6mm)
Did you change the plastic nozzle for a metal one? If so, how did it work?
Try using some sticky tape to attach sewing needle to the tip to guide the drops, they should be uniform dropping off the pointy end of a needle.
Thanks. That’s a great idea.
Sounds good. Will try that with my Pluto Trigger aswell because I have some consistency issues aswell
hi i tried thew water drop photography but im not getting the mushroom effect, i was just getting the drop bouncing up, very cool but not really what i wanted, i dont have fancy equipment, am i just getting the timing wrong or anythiung else? Thanks for your videos.
Drop collisions are possible without an electronic dropper but it's extremely difficult and requires a lot of patience, perseverance and luck. Getting a fairly quick drop rate going out of a plastic bag is the key. Add more water to the bag to increase pressure and therefore speed up the rate of drops.
@@Firstmanphotography thank you very much this was a clear explanation, i will rry in the next couple of days, thanks again :)
Hi, I'm trying to do water drop photography and I have the problem of focusing that, despite focusing on the object at the point where the drop falls, the shots are all out of focus or not in focus despite closing the aperture to f / 22 (time 1/320 sec, ISO from 100 to 800). Also, I always see the edge of the container in the shots despite the water being level. Do you have any suggestions? How far should the reflex stand from the point of impact? Thanks bye
just raise the tripod a touch to avoid seeing the edge. Its likely the lack of sharpness is due to motion rather than focusing……although be sure to use a pencil and focus where the drop will be, not on the surface of the water. most importantly it’s not the shutter speed that freezes the action, its the flash. use on 1/32 or 1/64 power (gives a quicker burst) with shutter speed set to the flash sync speed of your camera (1/200 in my case). I use f11 mostly, sometimes f16. Use iso to control the exposure.
@@Firstmanphotography First of all, thank you for replying!
Perfect, I'll try your suggestions. The only thing is that, currently, I don't have Flash but I use two LED spotlights and I don't know if it's the same thing.
Thank you very much
Have you tried the MJKZZ Water drop kit?
This video got me excited to pick up my miops and have some fun again, but the darn thing has stopped working :(
Why did it stop working? My PLUTO Kit was "stuck" because I didn't use it in so long. I bet the Miops kit can be disassembled easily just like the pluto one. Clean the parts and do a few testfires. Mine workes like a charm now.
Black3ternity I did contact miops about this. And got a dissassembly guide in return to try cleaning it. But the problem still persisted after cleaning it. They were kind enough to send me a new one for free though :D So tonight i’m gonna have a go with the new one:)
You could just mount a metal nozzle on top of the plastic with some tape. probably works better then
Nice video. You explained it very effectively. I have a Miops splash kit and am experimenting with it. You video will be a great help. @satvinder69 Canada.
Very cool! I'm wondering if the investment for such a kit is worthy for me, as I am sure it won't be used very often...how many water drop images to justify such a kit (lol)
Yes, and you have also take into account that water drops are photograohed to death already between 2007 and 2008. Today nobody wants to see water/milk/liquid drops. Maybe in 10 years it's time for the big reissue of "we all photograph water drops in the same way with the same strobes and the same background" again.
The smart phone requirement is annoying.
I respect people's wish to take drop photos, but I see them as mechanical, contrived and samey. On the other hand your landscape pictures are freeform, spiritual, emotional, unplanned. Maybe I just like to see you outside with rocks, plants, animals and weather.
Anyway. You make me want to take pictures. Thank you for that.
They’re definitely not contrived. For me they represent the essence of life.....water and light. It’s also something that happens everyday in nature that we take for granted and capturing them in this way is an exciting and colourful way to present it.
It is a very technical exercise but I don’t feel yet that I have got close to perfecting it. I’ve got lucky a few times but I think there’s more to discover. It’s also fun.
I prefer being outside too. It’s not always possible though.....I also enjoyed the variety.
@@Firstmanphotography Firstly an apology: my comment wasn't meant as a criticism or judgement. I'm just intrigued by what I see as two diametrically opposed genres both featuring on your channel. Sorry if I didn't express it very well.
Thank you for your inspirational videos. Due to periods of mental "darkness" my passion for photography is sometimes replaced by self doubt. Not helped by the internet and it's numerous "experts". It doesn't take much for me to lock my camera away for months on end.
Your videos and your compassionate aproach to photography and ourselves is amazing. You've done more to motivate me than anyone else. If I'm ever up north I'll buy you a 🍺
Thank you.
Don’t apologise. Imagine this same same conversation in real life. No one would be offended or apologising and we’d be having an interesting conversation about photography genres. Appreciate your support.
@@Firstmanphotography Something I'd find really useful is a video on finding inspiration in, or adapting to, very uninspiring locations. For instance I live near the beach but it's very flat terrain, ditto the west coast of France where I often holiday. These scenes still give me great pleasure, and are dear to my heart, but photographically I always end up with a flat horizon, and little by way of features. Maybe long exposure and a tripod is the answer.