Goku VA Comparison - Kelamis vs Schemmel

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
  • Goku voice actor comparison.
    Peter Kelamis versus Sean Schemmel.
    Apparently some people have pointed out that this video may be biased and have lashed out at me because of this. However, even on unbiased videos, Funifans feel the need to bash anything that isn't part of their beloved dub, so whether it's bias or not is irrelevant among them.

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  • @JackieFuckingChan
    @JackieFuckingChan 3 роки тому +386

    Damn. Kelamis sounds VERY close to the japanese actress for Goku.

    • @Alolino1605
      @Alolino1605 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah

    • @gikari3703
      @gikari3703 Рік тому +14

      It's what he aimed for.

    • @user-il9gm7oq3i
      @user-il9gm7oq3i Рік тому +7

      And He's Better Than Japanese Goku

    • @tamtam21801
      @tamtam21801 Рік тому +2

      it’s an old woman that’s why

    • @BatMan-cq8gq
      @BatMan-cq8gq Рік тому +14

      Japanese goku sounds like a strangled cat, not a good sound for an all powerful male warrior.

  • @DeplorableLegend
    @DeplorableLegend 6 років тому +541

    You dare mock the son of a shepherd? KAIIIIOOOOOOKEEEEENNN!!

    • @anthonymonroy357
      @anthonymonroy357 5 років тому +8

      I am Ralph

    • @meifungliew1637
      @meifungliew1637 5 років тому +22

      Have you ever experienced the almighty 3 shoe beating???!!!????

    • @bakasta5992
      @bakasta5992 5 років тому +14

      Life has many doors vegeta

    • @Vigriff
      @Vigriff 5 років тому +8

      Kaio-what?

    • @EA-bv8zk
      @EA-bv8zk 5 років тому +6

      Do you live in a cave

  • @xsubliminal
    @xsubliminal 9 років тому +729

    I love how objective OP and unbiased OP is.

    • @onlikepingpong
      @onlikepingpong 9 років тому +14

      Alan Liang haha probably the most accurate comment on here..

    • @kantuskorner4777
      @kantuskorner4777 5 років тому +9

      @@KotoKiminama r/wooosh

    • @kantuskorner4777
      @kantuskorner4777 5 років тому +3

      @@KotoKiminama holy shit ur right lol

    • @N7spongy
      @N7spongy 5 років тому +1

      @@KotoKiminama is objective and unbiased mutually exclusive

    • @ludensmolato4769
      @ludensmolato4769 5 років тому +4

      @@KotoKiminama Honestly the joke is only funny when the term "Objective" is used. "Subjective" may be correct but it doesn't have the same impact for humor. However, please continue guiding us ignoramuses in the ways of proper grammar. Gracias.

  • @kme321
    @kme321 6 років тому +417

    Schemmel is actually very good, buy Kelamis did a better job in the other movies like World's Strongest. They are both great in their own right

    • @umbrellaunderdog
      @umbrellaunderdog 4 роки тому +31

      Ocean got ripped off they only had like a month to record the rest of dbz when they picked it up again funimation had a whole fucking year to record that's why ocean sounds half-assed in the later seasons. It's an unfair comparison not to mention the director kept changing for ocean.

    • @Ripperr_
      @Ripperr_ 4 роки тому

      Yeah.

    • @calebfontenot9755
      @calebfontenot9755 4 роки тому

      Agreed

    • @jameswise3971
      @jameswise3971 3 роки тому +3

      @@umbrellaunderdog agreed

    • @GabePickles3837
      @GabePickles3837 3 роки тому

      I agree.

  • @jodystrickland9150
    @jodystrickland9150 5 років тому +194

    With Peters voice goku sounds like Sonic the hedgehog

  • @anthonyevans6586
    @anthonyevans6586 6 років тому +221

    Dear god, the bias here is insane.
    That said, while I grew up more on Schemmel thanks to (shitty) Orange Bricks, I still think Peter is pretty good. He certainly captures Masako. Personally, Schemmel will ALWAYS be Goku to me, but I recognize Peter’s talent. So to sum it up, they’re both really good!

    • @redstuff3456
      @redstuff3456 5 років тому +2

      I agree.

    • @RiRyn27
      @RiRyn27 5 років тому +8

      Heard schemmel growing up. But Yeah, Peter definitely capture Masako's version in english.

    • @Sempermac
      @Sempermac 5 років тому +2

      @@RiRyn27 You guys mean Masako captures Peter's version right?

    • @Gamekiller166
      @Gamekiller166 4 роки тому +2

      @@Sempermac No, Masako came first

    • @RandomGuy-zl5sp
      @RandomGuy-zl5sp 4 роки тому +6

      Sempermac No, Masako is the original Goku

  • @darthnatus
    @darthnatus 10 років тому +349

    While Schemmel doesn't do "silly" quite as well, he actually sounds like a man in battle which is pretty important!

    • @nightcrocturkey6401
      @nightcrocturkey6401 4 роки тому +6

      Correct!

    • @N7thegreatspy
      @N7thegreatspy 4 роки тому +29

      That’s the thing if you’re basing it off of the Japanese original, Goku never sounds like a man

    • @rogeliovargasherrera2097
      @rogeliovargasherrera2097 4 роки тому +27

      N7thegreatspy of course not...it’s a women who make the voice... but i agree Goku should sound like a man, it’s better

    • @zarrowthehorse
      @zarrowthehorse 4 роки тому +2

      I think he does

    • @Arachninja752
      @Arachninja752 4 роки тому +29

      Goku never really grows up though. At least in terms of his personality. He's not a manly character, he's a child at heart. I think Peter Kelamis' voice captures that well. I do like Sean Schemmel's voice for Goku, and despite what this video says, I especially love the way he sounds when Goku is more silly. Kelamis' voice just stays more true to Goku's character consistently in my opinion.

  • @gaelpersonalaccountlol4495
    @gaelpersonalaccountlol4495 6 років тому +390

    This is super bias honestly both performances are amazing

  • @SylentEcho
    @SylentEcho 7 років тому +166

    Kalamis is better because he was a professionally trained VA and ventriloquist. He could do amazing things with his voice. Saban made a REALLY good call hiring him and those first 3 movies are considered the most faithful adaptations of the original story by all of us older DBZ fans who have been watching since the mid 90s. Schemmel and the other in-house talent that they hired later due to not being able to afford the older Saban/Ocean cast, were all untrained amateur voice actors. Sean got better with time, but not nearly as good a fit for Goku as Kelamis.

    • @mkhanman12345
      @mkhanman12345 Рік тому +14

      I started watching in '98-'99 and prefer Schmmel.

    • @Cableguy15
      @Cableguy15 Рік тому +8

      @@mkhanman12345 Do you prefer him even for the first three movies? I have a hard time watching the Funimation version of those movies, though it's not just because of Sean. Almost all of the voices outside of Gohan and Krillin feel way off. It's very apparent in Tree of Might when you compare Pioneer to Funi.

    • @maiastniki
      @maiastniki Рік тому +3

      wow

    • @CValenton01
      @CValenton01 Рік тому

      @@Cableguy15yes schemmel is better. kelamis sounds like a bitch

    • @artisticskillz01
      @artisticskillz01 Рік тому +1

      Ian James Corbett is my favourite. I'm from the UK so I grew up with the ocean dub

  • @N7thegreatspy
    @N7thegreatspy 4 роки тому +86

    I see a lot of people here saying that Kelamis is much more accurate to the Japanese which is true, but its important to realize that when subbing your not just changing the language you’re also changing the voice in general to sound more like something you might hear in that country. In English speaking countries it is not common for grown men to sound like children, even in animation, so Goku shouldn’t sound like that either. Schemmel sounds light hearted and fun when peaceful but sounds like a warrior during battle. That’s how it should be.

    • @umbrellaunderdog
      @umbrellaunderdog 3 роки тому

      >.> What's your opinion of the SM Dic vs Viz dubs? Or are you one of those people who are bias towards viz because they had a more accurate script to the Japanese one plus the editing and censorship.

    • @misspretty8969
      @misspretty8969 Рік тому +5

      First seeing dbz on toonami there was 3 different voice actors for dbz but Sean always hit home.

    • @dakotalane7983
      @dakotalane7983 Рік тому +3

      ​@@misspretty8969 Everyone forgets Ian. 🤷‍♂️

    • @night-seeker666
      @night-seeker666 Рік тому +6

      For voice acting, the characterisation should come before the design. Peter Kelamis and Masako Nozawa still sound like warriors in battle, their voices simply fit Goku's character as a childlike martial artist.
      Sean Schemmel's voice more so fits with Funimation's patented Superman Goku. *insert joke about Superman Goku sucking here*
      I think a good middle ground would be Kirby Morrow, his voice is higher pitched, but sounds like an adult.

    • @chickenflavor9880
      @chickenflavor9880 Рік тому

      Bruh do you think anyone in japan sounds like goku? Hes a fucking alien in a cartoon.

  • @Lordecai
    @Lordecai 7 років тому +92

    can you just upload the video without these annoying biased texts smh

    • @ZeroFighter
      @ZeroFighter 4 роки тому +3

      Or, you could just listen to the comparisons without looking at the screen. It IS a comparison of audio after all.

    • @Lordecai
      @Lordecai 4 роки тому +6

      Zero Fighter he made fun of schemmels voice because the goku sounded sick. Literally in that string of episodes he gets the heart virus.
      There’s nothing wrong with having favor to a certain voice, there’s definitely shit that kelamis says that I like, but just because I prefer schemmel doesn’t mean I should berate kelamis’ voice.
      And final point, it is an audio comparison, but interjects with text monologues. There’s nothing wrong with that but there’s no way to know when a clip will start and when it will end

    • @ZeroFighter
      @ZeroFighter 4 роки тому

      @@Lordecai
      Okay? So? What's your point? If you don't like it, other people have made comparison compilations. Why are you so hellbent that this one person fall in line to your wishes?

    • @Lordecai
      @Lordecai 4 роки тому +3

      Zero Fighter I made 2 points there buddy, don’t know why you’re asking me what my point is. Just because there are other videos doesn’t mean that I can’t comment on this one. Plus this is the only video comparing the 2 that I could find. Regardless, there is a comment section for a reason. If you wanted to make everything peachy and positive then we might as well disable comments altogether.
      I really don’t care about either voice actor at the end of the day, but I value opinions greatly. That being said if your opinion just defaults to “that’s bad, you suck” then the opinion loses value

    • @ZeroFighter
      @ZeroFighter 4 роки тому

      @@Lordecai
      I never said you couldn't comment. I only replied because you're wanting something that other people have made, yet you insist that this one person do things that way. You can say whatever you want, you just have to understand that so can anyone else.

  • @zerojager1787
    @zerojager1787 6 років тому +127

    Personally prefer the funimation dub, seans voice fits goku, especially when gokus design becomes much more muscular in the buu saga.

    • @tentaplayz3691
      @tentaplayz3691 2 роки тому +1

      Fr

    • @duncan3998
      @duncan3998 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, only the true OGs prefer Ocean dub over funimation..
      even if we are in a minority.

  • @tyriese9417
    @tyriese9417 5 років тому +42

    I’m at the weird side of UA-cam. People are really arguing about who screams better?

    • @syawndarren4284
      @syawndarren4284 4 роки тому +8

      Its dragon ball, the fandom is just cancerous as a whole.

    • @user-vs9ds3dc2y
      @user-vs9ds3dc2y 2 роки тому

      @@syawndarren4284 nah. this was like 10 years ago

  • @nadershahade9753
    @nadershahade9753 5 років тому +47

    This dude talking about HE SCREAMED NON-STOP,AND SAID THAT THE OTHER GUY HAS A MORE POWERFUL SCREAM WHEN HE REALLY WAS A HAMSTER QUACKING

    • @fatboydashredder9877
      @fatboydashredder9877 5 років тому +11

      Sean had a more angry yell while Peter's was a higher pitched yell

    • @WafleEnterprises
      @WafleEnterprises 5 місяців тому

      @@fatboydashredder9877Sean can also scream incredibly well if he wants to, just watch his newer “I will not let you destroy my world!” Scream from Battle of Gods movie!
      VA’s get to watch what their character is doing and have some artistic freedom to make their voice fit better from their perspective. Sean likely chose the multiple breaths intentionally, though it was also still early on in his VA career and maybe he hadn’t practiced his breath control as well yet.

    • @Lunerine
      @Lunerine 3 місяці тому

      @@WafleEnterprisesDon’t forget the ssj3 scream too, that was glorious

    • @WafleEnterprises
      @WafleEnterprises 3 місяці тому

      @@Lunerine Particularly in Fusion Reborn, that scream is even more magnificent and epic than the one he did for the mainline series!

  • @xavierpittman1533
    @xavierpittman1533 5 років тому +130

    The video is obviously biased but as it stands currently with the current situation I’d prefer Kelamis

    • @reidlindsey4838
      @reidlindsey4838 5 років тому +22

      Rival Battle Same with me. I’d rather take the son of a shepherd over that bipolar bitch Sean.

    • @InsaneTestament
      @InsaneTestament 5 років тому +14

      Rival Battle even after all that, I still think schemmel is better personally

    • @xavierpittman1533
      @xavierpittman1533 5 років тому +5

      JoJo’s Bizarre Adventures Well yeah, but I’m a sub fan anyway

    • @InsaneTestament
      @InsaneTestament 5 років тому +3

      Rival Battle respectable. I enjoyed the subbed episodes that I watched in dbs

    • @flix250
      @flix250 5 років тому +1

      yeah, what a freaking asshole.

  • @EVANMN123
    @EVANMN123 10 років тому +273

    He's just a huge hater

  • @destroypeepee3032
    @destroypeepee3032 7 років тому +39

    Most biased crap I've ever watched, "Let's count the breaths" in what sense does breath taking make someone's voice better suited for the role?

    • @Fan4tune
      @Fan4tune 3 роки тому +1

      _Are You Dumb??_ (^._.^)ノ

    • @ihatearashi
      @ihatearashi 3 роки тому +1

      @@Fan4tune You have xX(Username)Xx, meaning your opinion is invalid.

    • @Fan4tune
      @Fan4tune 3 роки тому

      @@ihatearashi Yeah It was so dumb too say that... That's makes me more have no regrets too abandoned the DB Comunty. becase in fact, this video is showing the maximum potential of both VAs of Goku!, sometimes on internet i sad why i like more Masako's voice (The original japanese Goku's VA) over Shiensshjshoniesimp (IDK the oficial english VA and i don't care because he is a A-Hole as person) and a random person yells ate me saying that i'm wrong without repecting the whole coment... just like you did. :-|
      (Sorry If I don't said the mean of my coment before..., but yeah you still yells ate me)

    • @ihatearashi
      @ihatearashi 3 роки тому

      @@Fan4tune You should be a writer.

    • @satori6346
      @satori6346 3 роки тому

      @@ihatearashi why did you "eat" him 🤣

  • @hididdlyhodiddly6019
    @hididdlyhodiddly6019 5 років тому +9

    Kelamis is an overall better person that Sean Schemmel. He doesn’t act like Goku belongs to him. I’m pretty sure Sean also tried to get him banned from a convention because he didn’t like the fact Kelamis also played Goku.

    • @ScottE-2
      @ScottE-2 5 років тому +1

      Kelamis did get removed from Kamehacon, though if you watch YellowFlash2, there was at one point a consideration to have Goku Black be voiced as either Peter Kelamis here or Ian Corrlet. Though funimation might be gone if the lawsuit Vic's going through is anything to go by...

    • @hididdlyhodiddly6019
      @hididdlyhodiddly6019 5 років тому +1

      Scott E. Wolfrey He was considered to be the role, but again, Sean Schemmel had to be a pathetic little bitch boy and complain about it. He genuinely seems to believe that Goku belongs to him and it’s honestly sickening.

    • @reidlindsey4838
      @reidlindsey4838 5 років тому

      Yeah fuck Sean. It would have been cool to have a previous VA for Goku to come back and voice Goku Black.
      It would’ve been a nice callback to the other voices of Goku.

    • @reidlindsey4838
      @reidlindsey4838 5 років тому +1

      Hi diddly Ho diddly I think I heard about how Sean is possessive over the Goku voice but I’m definitely seeing it come up a lot in this comment section.

    • @hididdlyhodiddly6019
      @hididdlyhodiddly6019 5 років тому +1

      reid lindsey He threw a fit when he saw MasakoX. He doesn’t think TFS is fair use 🙄

  • @icecheval3275
    @icecheval3275 6 років тому +106

    Personally, while Kelamis does do the silly side of Goku better, I like Sean because he can do better when Goku has to be serious. He practically shattered his lungs turning SSJ3.

    • @EdDaBawsh
      @EdDaBawsh 2 роки тому +7

      "shattering" his lungs doesn't make him a better VA

    • @remade929
      @remade929 2 роки тому +13

      @@EdDaBawsh Kelamis during the transformation screams sounds like he’s trying to be silent, I don’t like his voice as goku at all.
      Imo Sean does goku way better.

    • @user-vs9ds3dc2y
      @user-vs9ds3dc2y 2 роки тому +10

      @@EdDaBawsh it does, cope harder

    • @eliasdanielestrada3385
      @eliasdanielestrada3385 2 роки тому +4

      @@remade929 Okay funimation fanboy at least Peter doesn't make screams so exaggerated and crazy that they look ridiculous like Sean Schemmel's overrated one

    • @RenegadeShepTheSpacer
      @RenegadeShepTheSpacer Рік тому +1

      @@EdDaBawsh Yes, it does. It shows dedication and passion, and a fucking boatload of talent.

  • @WesBWMS
    @WesBWMS 6 років тому +22

    As someone that isn’t very interested in dbz, I find it so weird that kelamis sounds too much like a goofy teenager. He plays a great Rolf though

  • @sonic2me-270
    @sonic2me-270 8 років тому +101

    I don't get the whole "nostalgia goggles" thing everyone keeps talking about. I was born in the 2000s and pretty much knew only Schemmel as Goku and I genuinely prefer Kelamis and Corlett as Goku instead. It doesn't always have to be nostalgia that makes a person like something. People can actually have different preferences from yours.

    • @王小明-k4y
      @王小明-k4y 5 років тому +19

      Just because the "nostalgia goggles" thing doesn't apply to you doesn't mean that it can't apply to anyone else. For other people, growing up with either one of the voices generally creates a bias towards said voice since you have more of a connection with hearing it.

    • @CodeEpsilon
      @CodeEpsilon 3 роки тому +6

      @SpaceBoy They're subjectively wrong, because it's their opinion. They aren't trying to claim that Kelamis and Corlett are better than Schemmel. They're just stating what they prefer. Which in itself is a subjective opinion and not an objective fact. They're allowed to have their opinion; just like you're allowed to have yours.
      Opinions are important, they allow us to gain insight to other peoples views. Which enables us to gain a better understanding of each other and the world. Presuming you're not an ignorant nobody who bashes an opinion someone has, just to hate on them.

    • @novanoob4849
      @novanoob4849 2 роки тому

      Exactly. People need to get their heads outta their asses.

    • @remade929
      @remade929 2 роки тому

      @@CodeEpsilon bro have you not seen the video title

    • @CodeEpsilon
      @CodeEpsilon 2 роки тому +6

      @@remade929 Yes, I had seen the video title. If you're trying to make a point. Just say it. Instead of leaving a vague statement that leaves no context on what you're trying to say.

  • @louisebowman5230
    @louisebowman5230 8 років тому +86

    You know schemmel just kept getting better and better the more he played

    • @johnleone1996
      @johnleone1996 Рік тому +3

      Yeah. And he was super inexperienced when he was cast for the Funi dub

    • @night-seeker666
      @night-seeker666 Рік тому +4

      And now he sounds like he has throat cancer.

    • @CValenton01
      @CValenton01 Рік тому

      @@night-seeker666he now sounds like a real man unlike that 80yo bitch and this poser

  • @ATK1734
    @ATK1734 9 років тому +237

    I sense a Kelamis fanboy...get a life!

    • @Bait4State
      @Bait4State  9 років тому +22

      AquaThunderKnight17 I sense a Schemmel fanyboy...get a life!

    • @ATK1734
      @ATK1734 9 років тому +39

      ***** Not a Schemmel fanboy...just think the comparison was too one sided

    • @NappaCarl
      @NappaCarl 9 років тому +24

      +AquaThunderKnight17 Very one sided. Everyone caption directed towards schemmel was an insult lol most if not all to peter is praising him.

    • @NappaCarl
      @NappaCarl 9 років тому +1

      +Nappa Carl every*

    • @missxmarvel
      @missxmarvel 9 років тому +4

      Its just his oppinion. I like his version because he shows respect to the original. But sean doesn't.

  • @frankchau
    @frankchau 5 років тому +84

    Man, how things have changed. I woulda been for Schemmel before 2018/2019 but watching the Japanese dub made me realize how accurate Peter sounded.

    • @Zokere
      @Zokere 5 років тому +6

      Same here. I actually enjoy the Japanese dub over the English Dub.

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 5 років тому +13

      Sean's a fucking douchebag.

    • @funkapotamus86
      @funkapotamus86 5 років тому +6

      @Wazerwaffle I think it would be a lot funnier and a bigger insult to schemmel if they cast the teamfourstar goku as the new official goku.

    • @terelext
      @terelext 5 років тому +1

      @@kabob0077 that too.

    • @Luka1180
      @Luka1180 4 роки тому

      @@kabob0077 The fuck does that have to do with the quality of his vocie acting?

  • @KoopaXross
    @KoopaXross 5 років тому +99

    I don't think the like/dislike ratio is representative anymore. I think it'd be flipped around after what's been going on this year. LUL

    • @awzTHEAWZ
      @awzTHEAWZ 5 років тому +4

      KoopaXross lmao yep

    • @sundowner4076
      @sundowner4076 5 років тому +38

      Mickobin Sotosworth Vic isn’t a pervert! He was framed.

    • @crunchy1547
      @crunchy1547 5 років тому +12

      true. i loved schemmel’s goku for years but after the whole controversy, it’s not the same.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 5 років тому

      ... What's been going on this year? I looked up his name in news and there's only stuff about DBZ and interviews and stuff.

    • @KoopaXross
      @KoopaXross 5 років тому +6

      @@mikeexits Drama between the VAs.

  • @makaelawebb9649
    @makaelawebb9649 10 років тому +25

    Why are you constantly dissing on Sean?? He's amazing! :D

    • @Fan4tune
      @Fan4tune 3 роки тому +2

      But Goku's character of him is kinda *Meh* if you watched in the sub version 😐

    • @zamasu3563
      @zamasu3563 3 роки тому +8

      @@Fan4tune sub version is a litteral 90 year old grandma, for some reason I feel like a huff man should sound like a , uhhh idk -
      MAN

    • @Fan4tune
      @Fan4tune 3 роки тому

      @@zamasu3563 I forgot to mention that Sean is a selfish a-hole (If you know the "Beta Sean and Alfa Masako" drama) not even respecting her role as Goku itself/ how Toriyama wrote the character. and the *"Men"* think was mistake of my so thank you to say about It! (ㆁωㆁ)

    • @zamasu3563
      @zamasu3563 3 роки тому +2

      @@Fan4tune you realise the creator of a series can make bad decisions right? Like plot holes and other stuff exist but bad decisions also exist. And preferably, I don't like hearing grandpa scream because it genuinely hurts my ears. Also so? Sean is an ass yes but seperate art from the artist dipshit.

    • @omarismaeel7838
      @omarismaeel7838 3 роки тому +2

      @@zamasu3563 you western fans think goku should follow the western norms of how an mc should sound like. Goku isn’t a superman. Goku is based off Sun Wukong. Seans interpretation is generic and bland. Nozawa actually puts so much nuance into Goku. His voice is rather high pitched because that’s how Toriyama imagined Goku should sound like. You need to take off your nostalgia goggles and actually watch what the original dbz in Japanese. Dragon ball is a Japanese show so naturally Funimation shoud change some stuff to appeal to the west. And to be fair your opinion doesn’t really matter. Nozawa is Goku and the rest is just parody/Interpretation.

  • @rhythmayhem
    @rhythmayhem 5 років тому +17

    2:27 i mean.. he did have a heart virus

  • @Samxsonite505
    @Samxsonite505 9 років тому +24

    Idk about you...but i still prefer Schemmel 1000x times more

  • @deantegreen8026
    @deantegreen8026 4 роки тому +28

    I don’t know what this dude is talking about Sean is a good voice actor plus screaming can mess up your throat and he can pass out

    • @FreshPrincex4
      @FreshPrincex4 3 роки тому +1

      He actually did passed out before while performing those screams

  • @Thenesrookie
    @Thenesrookie Рік тому +4

    I know based on the description you seem really butt hurt that people are rightfully calling out your bias, but regardless of opinion there's no need to drag down Sean Schemmel, to build up Peter Kelamis. They both have their own interpretations of Goku and I both think they do a great job.

  • @TheOctMandalorian
    @TheOctMandalorian 6 років тому +13

    You are clearly one side sided in this video. You're real problem is lack of focus of the directing between the two actors.
    The director for the dub group Kelamis was in, doesn't make his Goku seem real and/or natural. Its more cartoony. Yes, Kelamis can nail serious moments and high tension parts but its still not convincingly real.
    Now Funimation made Goku feel more realistic with Sean. The extra breaths he takes and frequent pauses he makes, makes it that much more down to earth. More believeable.
    So overall it really boils down to directing. Not the voice actor themselves. You just made yourself look very biased. So good job.

  • @poofythebassplayer21
    @poofythebassplayer21 9 років тому +88

    Back to my actual comment I think both did a great job as goku but to me Sean scheamel is goku and Peter Kalimis is rolf Sean is the true super sayian god where as Peter is the son of a Shepard

    • @MrChris4251
      @MrChris4251 9 років тому +13

      You dare mock the son of a shepherd!?

  • @AmAxel35
    @AmAxel35 10 років тому +41

    To me it depends on the artstyle, but yes if Sean had Peter's delivery, he'd be the very best Goku from Ginyu - the End. Because of the artstyle changing during that era of the anime, Ian and Peter's voices matched the younger, lean Goku, but there's no question Sean's voice matches the bulkier, older Goku. The same goes for Drummond vs. Sabat arguments. Sabat's voice just doesn't match Vegeta during the Saiyan Saga up to mid Ginyu.

    • @antoniogrady5954
      @antoniogrady5954 Рік тому +2

      Na Goku is still very much a childlike warrior character peter fits all version

    • @thefoundation4943
      @thefoundation4943 11 місяців тому

      @@antoniogrady5954 hes talking about not super cause super ruined his character arc DB - GT he feels mature during the buu saga then goes back to his early buu saga childish ways

  • @juliennecordero9541
    @juliennecordero9541 6 років тому +6

    The fact that he's trying so hard to make an argument with the subtitles is kinda sad, idk if this dude is a troll or Kelamis himself but get a life man

  • @DanielITravel
    @DanielITravel 5 років тому +13

    Anybody here after the funimation thing and just seeing what we might get if ocean dub comes back

    • @donnymurph
      @donnymurph 4 роки тому

      I'm out of the loop. What's this Funimation thing you speak of?

    • @SnipingIsFun
      @SnipingIsFun 3 роки тому

      @@donnymurph The whole KickVic stupidity

  • @NICKatronMC
    @NICKatronMC 6 років тому +6

    It blows my mind Rolf was Goku

  • @Marcel_TyZ
    @Marcel_TyZ 3 роки тому +39

    Kelamis sounds like hes reading the script word for word, while Sean actually has emotion in what he says

  • @bloodfinity
    @bloodfinity 3 роки тому +10

    0:48 literally masako nozawa

  • @MrKneeV
    @MrKneeV 5 років тому +14

    I can't count the number of times I watched DBZ on CN go from Raditz to Recoome and then start over again with Raditz, with the voices of Corlett and Kelamis. THAT is still Goku's voice for me. When I think of lines like "I know the odds are stacked against me, but if there's a way to win, I'm gonna find it!" and "I saw an opening that seemed to scream 'ATTACK'... so, I did," I hear Kemalis's voice in my head and not Schemmel's. I remember the very first time that CN aired Goku's fight with Jace and Burter, and everyone's voice was different. I hated Goku's new voice, and I still do. I can't stand listening to Schemmel voice Goku. Everything about it is wrong on so many levels (at least to me).

  • @bageldboye3469
    @bageldboye3469 5 років тому +6

    Tbh kelamis is better cause he doesnt backstab fellow VAs, mock pedophiles, call his fans assholes, and Hate TFS.

    • @bageldboye3469
      @bageldboye3469 5 років тому

      @Voidaken By mock I mean he acted like one

  • @Syutaku
    @Syutaku 9 років тому +11

    I did like Kelamis but in some of the scenes I think Schemmel did better to portray a better rendition of exertion rather than the shrill screams from the japanese dubs. Don't get me wrong I watched the series multiple times both JAP and ENG dubbed and I think that Schemmel does a pretty good job now. When he first started he was crappy but so were the whole cast replacement when they continued it after the Ginyu Force. I miss krillin's old voice actor though **EDIT: I just realized his voice acting went up to cell saga but that must have been in Canadian version?**

  • @spiderm8te327
    @spiderm8te327 10 років тому +22

    Idk why people care about this so much

    • @playahwon
      @playahwon 6 років тому +3

      Because it's Dragon Ball.
      Be it Z or Super, this crap is gonna happen.

    • @valdyrgramr
      @valdyrgramr 5 років тому +3

      It's called fanboys being fanboys. They can't be happy with both, so they tend to bitch like children.

    • @BardocksChild
      @BardocksChild 5 років тому

      @@epiccabbage6530 it's just crap

    • @BardocksChild
      @BardocksChild 5 років тому

      @@valdyrgramr salty

    • @BardocksChild
      @BardocksChild 5 років тому

      @@playahwon super sucks

  • @JimmyNotto
    @JimmyNotto 9 років тому +6

    while I don't doubt that Kelamis is good, I prefer Schemmels yells much more. he made Goku less of a screecher and more of a yeller, as real life martial artists are. Check your bias, friend. This wasn't much of a comparison due to it.

    • @Bait4State
      @Bait4State  9 років тому

      +Jimmy Notto Schemmel's screaming has become much too repetitive for my tastes. Whether he's powering up, or yelling from pain, it sounds too similar.

    • @princeojr3382
      @princeojr3382 5 років тому

      Bait4State It doesn’t to me. He sounds a lot more angry when he powers up, when he gets hit it’s more of a grunt. Peter Kelamis was good but not on the level of Sean Schemmel. His voice is like an English portrayal of Masako except with not much effort. Sometimes he strays from that and straight up sounds like a Mickey Mouse club house voice actor and it’s hard to take him seriously. As much as you hate the raveling in his voice when Sean Schemmel screams, I’d say it adds a lot more depth and energy into his screams. That’s the scream many DBZ fans, including myself, were trying to replicate as a child. This video is just a huge biased joke to be blatantly honest. You don’t give an objective critique or a good comparison. From what I’ve seen, Sean Schemmel is the better voice actor for Goku.

  • @TubboDaKittyCat
    @TubboDaKittyCat 2 роки тому +2

    Reminder this is the same man who voiced Rolf in Ed edd and eddy

  • @shutupack5389
    @shutupack5389 6 років тому +3

    with the kamehacon news sean has reaffirmed himself as the subpar goku

  • @shimamura1948
    @shimamura1948 9 років тому +26

    Kelamis is obviously a great voice actor. But I'll always respect Schemmel more and not because I think he is better, but because he stuck to the role. In an interview recently, he did say that it's not a role he particularly likes but he wants to keep doing it so that the people watching the show don't have to go through abrupt voice change. Kelamis however left Goku's role to focus on other aspect of his career, which is fine btw. But it shows what he places above. I would've loved for him to do Goku's voice forever. But unfortunately not to be,

    • @Schwarzorn
      @Schwarzorn 9 років тому +4

      Videoz4u HD To be fair, part of him leaving the role was likely from being tired of the how terrible the dub was handled; They changed voice directors all the time, and it was just an inconsistent mess.

    • @shimamura1948
      @shimamura1948 9 років тому +1

      Schwarzorn Oh didn't know that. I certainly liked him better.

    • @playahwon
      @playahwon 6 років тому +2

      ...huh.
      Never thought I'd see a mature, collected comment stating reasons for one's respect for Schemmel being higher than that for Kelamis down here.
      Thank King Kai I kept digging.

    • @hasenpfefferoni
      @hasenpfefferoni 5 років тому

      Your two cents actually has ground underneath the opinion. Thumbs up man.

  • @thorsakencairne
    @thorsakencairne 6 років тому +4

    "OMG TORIYAMA HAND PICKED NOZAWA!!!" This actually is both true, and untrue. There is a common misconception in this toxic fandom, and that is Toriyama hand picked Masoko Nozawa for Goku. He did, for KID GOKU. Go watch the "We Are Goku" panel on youtube, Sean Schemmel asks Masoko her straight up why she kept the role as an adult. She said that the original plan was to CHANGE THE VOICE TO A MAN WHEN HE BECAME AN ADULT. But there were instances in Japan before when a character became an adult they kept the same actor, and since she had been the only Goku up until then, Toriyama said it was okay to keep her as adult Goku.

  • @gukeoke6312
    @gukeoke6312 4 роки тому +7

    tbh Sean can do Goofy Goku pretty well
    Kelamis's laugh
    "hAhaHAhaHA-"

  • @skezeksskybreaker5425
    @skezeksskybreaker5425 3 роки тому +11

    The Ocean Dub series would have benefited greatly with the Kukuchi score. Kelamis did do a superior movie dub to be sure. To this date the first 3 DBZ movies are the only ones I like to watch in English if I am watching that dub.

  • @smallpandabear1876
    @smallpandabear1876 9 місяців тому +1

    “100 times gravity has many benefits Edd boy!”

  • @deadrock1678
    @deadrock1678 5 років тому +4

    Peter Kelamis screams like masako.

  • @SonGoku-tp8gb
    @SonGoku-tp8gb 8 років тому +5

    look i understand ur salty that u didn't grow up with obviously superior schemmel, but spitting random BS in a video to make urself feel better is kinda low, isn't it?

  • @manueljesus3228
    @manueljesus3228 6 років тому +7

    Schemmel did good for the Goku yells and for the serious voices while Peter did great with the more bright and bubbly voice of Goku to Mach the original Japanese voice better

  • @Shtoops
    @Shtoops 7 місяців тому +2

    Ok, but i still think its very funny that an at the time 60 year old woman was able to scream better than either of them.

  • @user-lf8zm5bl4n
    @user-lf8zm5bl4n 2 місяці тому

    That courage edit at the end got me good. Thank you for sharing your Kelamis appreciation.

  • @davidhale991
    @davidhale991 9 років тому +5

    schemmels voice is so much more powerful than kelamis. Kelamis sounds like he constantly has a cold and doesn't have half the intimidation of schemmel..Schemmel is the Goku we all know and love

  • @Fan4tune
    @Fan4tune 3 роки тому +6

    *Wow Man that's Cool!* Goku with Masako-san's approach on his voice!?, I've Never imaginet someone can do that!!, *Thanks!!*

  • @ultroma
    @ultroma 3 роки тому +38

    Sean will ALWAYS be my favorite no matter how u put it. Sean is also the only one who did a 13 second solid scream performance when going SSJ3

    • @tentaplayz3691
      @tentaplayz3691 2 роки тому

      Exactly

    • @solarpoint4578
      @solarpoint4578 2 роки тому +1

      So glad toriyama picked nozawa to be goku instead shows that he knew goku voice was nozawa voice and not Sean's

    • @natman2939
      @natman2939 2 роки тому +2

      @@solarpoint4578 you make it sound like he picked her over Sean. He had no say in the English version lol

    • @natman2939
      @natman2939 2 роки тому +2

      He just….sounds like Goku. I don’t know any other way to put it,
      OP can argue the technical stuff about voice acting but he’s what (English) goku sounds like

    • @ultroma
      @ultroma 2 роки тому +2

      Sean is the best Goku. No matter how u put it!

  • @016632
    @016632 2 роки тому +2

    Kelmais sounds like it was the japanese actor speaking in english

  • @-levi-7537
    @-levi-7537 3 роки тому +2

    2:30 he sounds like that BECAUSE HE IS GETTING BEAT UP FROM THE INSIDE BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING HEART DISEASE

  • @VioletHuedAngelTTV
    @VioletHuedAngelTTV 4 роки тому +5

    I think it's just bad directing. 🤷🏻‍♀️ While I don't like Sean that much, I can't deny he's a good fit for Goku.

  • @Harmonic14
    @Harmonic14 9 років тому +10

    Sorry, but Schemmel is better. Not only that, but starting at 2:27, they screamed in very similar patterns, yet you criticize Schemmel and praise Kelamis.

    • @Bait4State
      @Bait4State  9 років тому +1

      +David Hoch Schemmel was grunting, when his body bulked up it sounded like something was hitting him, and then a short scream. Kai was just nonstop raspy screaming. Kelamis was growling, was more subtle but accurate when bulked, then had a smooth, long scream to top it off. They are EXTREMELY different, hardly any similarities. I don't know why I bother, I knew most people wouldn't recognize these small, but drastic details.

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 9 років тому +5

      If they're so different, the details wouldn't be small. You're just coming up with descriptions that enforce your opinion. Anyone could reverse your descriptions when telling an uninformed person about the two actors, and they would agree. They're similar, so get over it.

    • @Bait4State
      @Bait4State  9 років тому +1

      +David Hoch Grunting versus growling, sounding like you're getting hit hard or subtle "ha!"s when transforming, that's what I intended to be the "small details", small things not many people would look into or notice. Aside from these, there of course are bigger details that differentiate them, but if you think they're too similar for you to point out these big or small details that make them distinguishable, then good day.

    • @Harmonic14
      @Harmonic14 9 років тому +5

      You're splitting hairs and trying to make two similar things sound like opposites. While it's an effective strategy to employ towards a mentally challenged crowd, it doesn't work against someone with more than a remedial understanding of the English language. So yes, good day.

    • @Bait4State
      @Bait4State  9 років тому +1

      "...trying to make two similar things sound like opposites". I said small and subtle, not exactly strong words geared towards making them appear opposite. Like I said, there are the small details, then there are the bigger ones. Small, like grunting versus growling. I'd consider one of the bigger contrasts being Kelamis sounding similar to Nozawa, where as Schemmel ended up with a Corlett sounding voice. Thanks for the comments.

  • @devildavin
    @devildavin 5 років тому +20

    Kelamis still has the best Kaioken yell, i wish i could hear his version of the SSJBlue +Kaioken

    • @yhwach8656
      @yhwach8656 4 роки тому +1

      kaioken times ten!!!

    • @awsomeboy360
      @awsomeboy360 2 роки тому

      No he does not. Goku in Kai have the BEST Kaioken yell.

  • @princeali7871
    @princeali7871 6 років тому +2

    0:52 Sean Schemmel taking more breaths is a good thing since the kaioken is supposed to be draining on Goku and he should be taking millions of breaths since it’s hard to pull of while Peter Kelamis takes two breaths and it seems as if the kaioken is barely draining and can be pulled out as a get out jail free card with no problems

  • @tokyorider2019
    @tokyorider2019 5 років тому +2

    Tbh it's less the actors fault and more so the dub director. Schemmel never even got to hear the original Japanese till much later, he had no reference. Listen to him in Kai and in Super and you'll notice how much better he's gotten.

  • @kingjohnny9432
    @kingjohnny9432 10 років тому +23

    Peter sucks he sounds like a Scooby Doo character Sean is the man.

    • @blackfoxhound6801
      @blackfoxhound6801 5 років тому

      KingJohnny 94 wdym Peter sounds closer to The Japanese Voice Of goku.

    • @bakasta5992
      @bakasta5992 5 років тому +1

      You exactly described why he sucks ;)

    • @dezgaming8871
      @dezgaming8871 5 років тому +1

      @@blackfoxhound6801 yep exactly why he sucked as well

    • @BardocksChild
      @BardocksChild 5 років тому

      @@dezgaming8871 sean is better

    • @BardocksChild
      @BardocksChild 5 років тому +2

      @@bakasta5992 sean is better (ocean dub sucks)

  • @DrewComika
    @DrewComika 5 років тому +10

    I’ll be honest I kind of liked Kirby Marrow as Goku myself...

  • @BookishEmperor
    @BookishEmperor 12 років тому +4

    I love how incredibly biased this is.

  • @MrGokufan96
    @MrGokufan96 Рік тому +1

    Peter Kelamis makes me feel like I'm watching Dragon tales rather than Dragon Ball Z.😂

  • @diddlenfiddle7311
    @diddlenfiddle7311 5 років тому +8

    Damn you know you just make Kelamis look bad with this.

  • @greenllama2856
    @greenllama2856 6 років тому +4

    Peter Kelamis the first one to say kaioken right.

  • @casetheace8494
    @casetheace8494 5 років тому +28

    I love Kelamis as Goku but Sean does a great job.

  • @DenRigtigeMoller
    @DenRigtigeMoller 4 роки тому +3

    I'm not a big fan of Sean Schemmel as a person, but I love his work!
    This video proces that you dont know what you are talking about! You keep telling us that Sean fails All the time, but tbh there are a whole team who decide what lines they use and what lines they dont use.. Get your facts together

  • @akazasoyama_x
    @akazasoyama_x 3 роки тому +2

    I can't believe how much this guy hates Sean Schemmel dude Sean voice actor is amazing how do you not see it

  • @kingclash8529
    @kingclash8529 3 роки тому +2

    Four breathes?Its because he was said to do so.If you have watched Fusion Reborn then you should know he screamed 46sec straight forward in one breath.

  • @superkobalt
    @superkobalt 3 роки тому +6

    I totally agree with everything your saying about Peter
    he brings the emotion and power in his lines and screams
    Sean is great too, He has his awesome moments
    but i feel like Kelamis' Goku is more unique than Sean's

  • @ssgoku7192
    @ssgoku7192 6 років тому +9

    Omg Sean’s voice is amazing

  • @MrPepito1980
    @MrPepito1980 8 років тому +4

    I prefer Sean Schemmel, in my opinion it sounds more real for the character. :)

    • @Bait4State
      @Bait4State  8 років тому

      +Gustavo Alvarez I appreciate all the points and how in depth you went to come to this conclusion.

  • @kevinchristopher7730
    @kevinchristopher7730 4 роки тому +1

    Taking two breaths for a scream doesn’t make someone amazing or better. It made him strain his voice and crack a little due to him losing breath which actually makes it awkward. Sean even though takes more breaths, gives goku more character and ups the intensity of what he’s actually doing. And besides, copying another actor is one thing but improvising, making it your own, and adding quality to a work makes you the better actor.

  • @SpideyfanX
    @SpideyfanX 2 роки тому +2

    I can understand not liking Sean, especially with all the controversies he's been in, as well as how he and the others tossed Vic out of FUNimation because of Monica Rial's false allegations.

  • @rahatduary3878
    @rahatduary3878 8 років тому +32

    The dislikes prove you wrong.

    • @eemelijaaskelainen4437
      @eemelijaaskelainen4437 7 років тому +4

      Rahat Duary Dislikes prove nothing

    • @tucci06
      @tucci06 7 років тому +5

      Look At My Face! Yup. Except, you know...that a lot of people dislike it.

    • @brandonm5816
      @brandonm5816 6 років тому +2

      That's not how opinions work. I like Schemmel, but his and Kelamis's contemporary work are incomparable. Kelamis was way better.

    • @BigChungus-of9fl
      @BigChungus-of9fl 6 років тому +3

      Barndo M that's exactly how it works dumbfuck. Many people disliked it because they believe sean is better.

    • @brandonm5816
      @brandonm5816 6 років тому +3

      You completely missed the point. If everyone in the world but one person has an opinion, it doesn't mean those droves of people having that opinion "proves" the one person "wrong." Sean is not some infallible, amazing actor just because you watched him and not someone else play Goku as a kid. Sean's performance was simply not very good early on, and that's because he was inexperienced and poorly directed.

  • @obscurebandfan
    @obscurebandfan 3 роки тому +3

    Sean Schemmel is a douchebag but I do prefer him as Goku. That was the Goku I would hear on Toonami midnight run. Kelamis is awesome though and he's the best son of shepard.

  • @xxdudeyydude5106
    @xxdudeyydude5106 6 років тому +12

    I think Peter Kelamis should voice Sonic the Hedgehog.

  • @amosamwig8394
    @amosamwig8394 2 роки тому +3

    Peter Kelamis for me is the voice of goku

  • @toddphillips981
    @toddphillips981 Рік тому +1

    Dosent matter how many breaths he took when his voice sounds better. And also he never said kaioken wrong after that NONE CANON movie . Kelamis literally sounds like an abridged version

  • @tobias7517
    @tobias7517 8 років тому +21

    kelamis has the edge when it comes to energy and passion but I dont like his accent/voice as much as I like Schemmels.

    • @playdae6502
      @playdae6502 8 років тому +8

      Tobias Gustavsson I agree. Kelamis seems a bit better as an actor but Schemmels voice is much more memorable. In my opinion anyways.

    • @tobias7517
      @tobias7517 8 років тому

      PlayDae yes exactly! :D

    • @shreyaankhanna4944
      @shreyaankhanna4944 7 років тому

      +PlayDae watch rof

    • @playahwon
      @playahwon 6 років тому +2

      Holy Big Green, someone respect's others' opinions down here?!
      I DEMAND TO KNOW WHAT WITCHCRAFT THIS IS!

  • @jjsalazar96
    @jjsalazar96 9 років тому +4

    Schemmel is superior you're just too off in your own world to see it lol

  • @gokuss15
    @gokuss15 9 років тому +7

    Kelamis is goofy and stilted as shit. Loved him as rolf, but not as goku.

  • @stayflyking
    @stayflyking 5 років тому +2

    Objectively, Peter is better.
    Nuance, tonality, script, sound mixing, referencing Nozawa's performance etc. Sean found his voice for Goku, but he lacks in other areas. He doesn't sound as natural as Peter does. Toriyama picked Nozawa so she is the standard. Therefor Peter is the definitive english sounding Japanese version of Goku even over Ian corlett (did a great job too).

  • @Nate_the_Nobody
    @Nate_the_Nobody Рік тому +1

    So, while I agree with most
    2:26
    "He sounds like he has a cold or is taking it up the ass"
    He's got a heart dieses that is making it VERY difficult for Goku to function, going super just adds to the strain he's already experiencing so Sean actually did a half decent job conveying that strain

    • @night-seeker666
      @night-seeker666 Рік тому

      It doesn't, it sounds awkward. A heart disease doesn't make you sound nasally.

  • @studiojaw4876
    @studiojaw4876 8 років тому +5

    I like Sean better, but it's interesting that in the World's Strongest clip he sounds a lot like Nozawa. .

  • @Exoneos
    @Exoneos 7 років тому +12

    Masako Nozawa > all PERIOD !

  • @pandemicsus3756
    @pandemicsus3756 7 років тому +5

    Sean Schemmel is the best goku voice actor .. Peter's voice sound disappointing like yamcha

    • @Timothan
      @Timothan 7 років тому

      ..how, exactly?

  • @Michael-cg5qn
    @Michael-cg5qn Рік тому +1

    Fun fact Peter is also the voice of Rolf in Ed Edd n Eddy

  • @Cookieznothere
    @Cookieznothere 3 роки тому +1

    So this is the guy that played the weasel from Barbie Rapunzel

  • @bodhi1271
    @bodhi1271 4 роки тому +23

    I do like Peter better as Goku, I feel he maintained the same spirit that Masako Nozawa created in her performance as Goku, where as Sean seemed to do his own thing and really changed the whole feel of the character for me.

  • @000slasher
    @000slasher 8 років тому +14

    Naaah , Sean's rendition of Goku's voice is EXACTLY what Goku 's voice is supposed to sound like , hands down

    • @soccerkid5265
      @soccerkid5265 8 років тому

      Ikr Goku is and will always be played by schemmel kelamis sound like a guy angry cause he started him self

    • @LukeMM95
      @LukeMM95 8 років тому +7

      Actually the creator of the series Akira Toriyama said that Masako Nozawa is how he imagined Goku to sound. It's fine if you prefer Sean but if you actually think that's how Goku should talk, I'm afraid you don't understand the character.

    • @teilanjackson8492
      @teilanjackson8492 8 років тому

      +David Verissimo trueeeeee

    • @crzyboy190
      @crzyboy190 7 років тому

      LukeMM95 He imagined kid goku.

    • @crzyboy190
      @crzyboy190 7 років тому

      Ripper 30 I'm pretty sure he was but when she was originally picked and imagined it was for kid goku.

  • @jakeenglish1036
    @jakeenglish1036 8 років тому +6

    Shemmel is the best voice actor, he takes breaths to make it more dramatic

  • @jeremy9127
    @jeremy9127 Місяць тому

    Kelamis sounds like a 12 year old skateboarder. I’m literally so thankful Schemmel is the voice actor they chose.

  • @kylefields3951
    @kylefields3951 3 роки тому +2

    The big difference here is not the two voice actors performance it's the localisation.
    The ocean dub here has a better grasp on the source material.
    It's never been Kay-o-Ken
    It's Kai-o-Ken. It's King Kai's technique not King Kay's.
    Kaio-Ken being something the funimation dub sometimes gets wrong and sometimes gets right. It's just unnecessarily inconsistent.