Why the world is worried about Turkey
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-- Erdogan as important to Turkey as Ataturk, and trying to shape it in his own image as significantly as Ataturk did decades ago.
-- They’re at the opposite ends of the spectrum in their beliefs: Ataturk was a militant secularist, Erdogan a committed Islamist
-- Erdogan’s rise shows arc of Turkish history, from democracy to an ever more theocratic authoritarian state
-- This all matters because a more religious version of Vladimir Putin is now at the helm of the biggest, richest and most militarily powerful US ally in the region.
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Title is wrong. The correct title is "Why the US is worried about Turkey?"
Turkey's a tough partner of the USA (nato, weapons supplied to turkey , recep wants same things, etc. etc.) , he might be a bit strongarmy 'too much ' on the surface but you don't want a wuss, either, as a nato outpost in a 'hot' part of the world,.
@Pursuit Mane Yes, Turkey and U.S. seem to have little problems nowadays, but they are allies. I always hope for the better relations between U.S. ally countries and Turkey.
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I living turkey and everything is true.Not lie.
no really europe have some problem white to have a country repress liberty and say whie are democratic
@Pursuit Mane and thats why they Giving Ressources to the PKK
Go Turkey! I don't know well about this situation. but i can say this.Our Korean always support Turkey! We love Turkey Let's go Together! Long live!
Jin Thanks, we love Korea ✌
Jin We love you, Korea
Jin Yes support turkish people. Not islamic dictator erdogan.
There is a difference between turks and erdogan's brutal regime.
aaa bbb the so called imperialists talk about this all the time roach
Mustafa Sezer Thank you.
Most of Turkish Army didnt join the coup in 2016.
only 3.000 soldiers "soldiers"
@@Anti.Kamalist1453 they came with a cheat. I knowe this because that is my cauntry. I remamber that they stole the tests of military school.
That is correct, although many top scientists and educated clas have fled, and that has had an affect, on Turkeys aspirations. erdogan has resorted tostupid talk. He tries to portray a strong front, but the world is not buying it. He has said many outrageous things but that is all he does , he makes big speaches and big ideas but, he has done nothing, at the end of the day he is a man of many words but of very little action.
Yes.
I live in TURKEY
America allows dictators if they serve America.
look at past Iran's shah and other gulf dude. look at Colombia where they defended the dictator.
dictator is not a problem unless they obey America😀
Which is exactly what Erdoğan does.
@@297banu erdogan hasn’t overthrown any governments
That True Les colonisateurs sont des prédateurs . Ces sont des propogandistes. Ils veulent commander , piller.leurs journalistes sont la pour diffuser leur mensonge.
@@nxthy6978 it doesn’t mean he is not an dictator
@@Wow-eh4ki the comment is talking about the US overthrowing governments though
Since when is USA the "World"?
Because it is a super power that has influence on other countries
For the USA, the USA are the whole world
@@eurmal5681 Yeah a super power, with super Trump
Greece ,USA ,France ,Germany, Russia ,China, Armenia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Libia hate Turkey, watch the news my guy.
@Viuz yes i agree, USA not the "World"
For the US, democracy is when a country licks their boots
man you just triggred ppl who call them selves "open minded"lol (sorry bad grammar)
@@gabrieleporru4443 oh really? So how’s the continues transfer of power doing in the Middle East? Human rights? It became more obvious that the US uses these sort of things as a pressure card, and that they would be friendly to you as long as you’re obedient (regardless of human rights violations and dictatorship) and that’s a worrisome thing actually. Biden recently refused to condemn China for their inhumane concentration camps, saying “it’s just China’s different way of doing things” lol I don’t wanna assume he ignored this horrible issue because of his money in China!! Or perhaps to favour financial gains (for American corporations) over criticising a modern day holocaust.
@@darkness595 another thing to add the UN and "human rights " are all based on subjective morality and they can not prove their stand at all.
therefore all their intervenes weather it's " humane" or not can't be proven morally and they can't prove that's terrorism is good or bad.
what am trying to say is this system is belt on hypocrisy and when Objective moral people start to realize than they will take action and subjectisim will have no answer when the objective moral people start action and they can't say it's " good or bad ".
even if objective moral people did wrong the subjective people can't prove it's wrong since it's all subjective.
even so atheist can't prove what's good or bad in all topics other than morality. for example, an atheist says to someone you are Bac-kward and that someone says is being Back- ward good or bad ? here if you know chess , then the atheist have been C7ed completely. they can't prove being whatever is good or bad. and so on and so on.
what am literally saying now will change the world perception and the moral people will take action. it's inevitable.
@Helo Me When a country invades it invades for slavery, oil and country unrest ;)
Italy should lick its boots then
Fun fact: There is literally a holiday in turkey where kids take over the parliament for a day
Turkey wants more power and modernity
23rd April
Yaa April 23 National Sovereignty and Children's Day is a holiday held in honor of the opening of the Turkish Grand National Assembly.Thats a other reason why we love Atatürk
in most western countries this is a day to day occurence
@@dennisbrucemasayon786 oh ı was'nt know that
When the people from outside is more worried than the citizens itself.
ikt hahahahah so funny....like majority of turks actually like him..
@@yigityigitoglu7451 you wish
@@yigityigitoglu7451 he’s the best president turkey ever had without him you’d still under the rules of the Army, if you’re a real Turkish you’d appreciate what this man done to your country strong army and economy as an outsider unlike you I can see the progress.
@@seiji99 haha that's kinda funny. the only people who like him are people who get thousands of turkish liras by licking his boots and advertising false islamic propagandas, sound similar to something???
@@seiji99 hahah ''Majority'' , which majority? his votes are declining from 50 to 40s
can make video:
1. why usa is the headache of the world.
2. why usa thinks of itself as police of the world.
3. why usa should gift freedom to americans
4. why usa should stay out of other countries
5. why usa should educate its citizen
6. why usa trying to be modern world imperial
Why are other countries calling for USA to help all the time
.7 blame USA on everything that goes wrong because people can’t take responsibility
@@jonasbluntson5864 no one calls USA all the islamic countries hates USA because the intervene in thier internal matter and because of the chaos has erupted
8: usa killed 1.5 million once and its population thinks islam are bad for killing 400
@@BatuhanDere you mentioned very less
America really thinks theyre the center of this world.
They are in this era. Much like the Egyptians, the Mongols, the Romans, the Byzantines, the Persians, the Ottomans, the British, the Soviet Union, and several other empires that have risen and fallen...America is at the centre of the stage. And until you have another superpower country taking over centre stage, then America will remain in that position. It's just how the world works.
@@Jakeylicious7891 i predict china being the next super power, soon after the american government falls..
edit: wait a minute china thrives off america.. american government failing means china will fail at the same time.,. ugh..
tru.
@@ginofoogle6944 Russia?
Jakeylicious7891... The US empire is on the decline. Many great empires have dominated the world at some point but they all fell at some point. The same fate is inevitable. The US economy has already been overtaken by China is purchasing power. The next is it will be overtaken militarily
The things said in 5:41 are wrong or incomplete. The soldiers who want to carry out this coup are the soldiers of a community that is not loyal to Atatürk, worked with Erdoğan before and had a conflict of interest. After this conflict, they wanted to stage a coup first in the political party and then in the country. But Erdogan did not allow this by calling his followers to the streets. In fact, those who took to the streets did nothing. Most of the soldiers there are insignificant privates. They didn't even know what was going on there. When they were told the truth, many surrendered to the police. Unfortunately, many are still on trial. They are even forcibly detained without trial. There are even only military students among them. If there was a coup supported by the people. It would definitely be successful. However, there are almost no followers of Atatürk in the military who are strong enough to make a coup. Many soldiers are now members of extremist religious sects.
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He had imprisoned atatürkist soldiers before all this started. This coup was just a game he orchestrated to show himself better.
@@alimetin4387 best theatre of the decade
@@worldbesthecarim better story arc than 9/11 tbf
@@alimetin4387 Even AKP refuses to investigate the political side of the coup. Like other theatres it will be revealed after a few decades.
Doesn't matter if the dictator cruel or good untill he support America
America is irrelevant in this instance, Turks fail to see that the reason why Turkey is a threat is that is a country that has committed genocide and war crimes against its neighbors in the not so distant past.
@@sachemofboston3649 its the ottoman empire, not turkey. also the ''genocides'' your referring to was just a law which forced people associated with outlaws/resistance groups to leave their homeland and head to somewhere very far away
@@mautun3830 Yeah those “laws” resulted in the death of over a million people. Also those “far away” places tended to be the middle of the Black Sea. Many Turkish nationalists are neo-ottomans who either deny the genocide or support it so obviously Turkey’s neighbors would be scared of turkey.
@@mautun3830 I agree with it being the crimes of the ottoman empire, however I cannot agree on the genocide part of your statement.
The Armenian genocide was a genocide, they forced marched them to Syria practically without food or water, then killed them.
I can agree that a past country has low to no relation with a modern country, Germany now is very different then Germany 1943, but Germans sti acknowledge what happened and what their people did back then.
@@cow1816 there is literally a ottoman document saying armenians were 440000 people at the time when people say 1.6 million killed. lemme link it quick
You'd not be worried if they were ruled by a military dictatorship. I don't see you worried about Egypt.
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@@Someone-zs6rw boomer
@Thani Malhan As a fellow turkish, I know the man in charge of Egypt is a dictator, but he is never a big problem. But Erdoğan... He challenges RUSSIA and USA you know. If we continues the act like that i think the whole turkey might be radiation zone.
@@bristolblenheim There are a lot of dictators around the globe. The problem is that Erdogan supports Muslim Brotherhood and other militants groups with money and weapons in the middle east to fight their local governments (not to mention what he did in turkey itself)
@Someone many people disagree you or many people agrees you, but everyone agrees he’s a big problem
Real title: Why is America worried about Turkey?
Because Turkey is developing
My Uncle lives in turkey and he is worried about the state of turkey
Because in turkey doesn't have enough oil
@Aristotelis Ypsilantis both sides should be worried about their economy getting wrecked over the arms race ngl.
@@jarrygarry5316 thats not true
The title should : "why america worried is about Turkey"
Don't forget Greece, kurds in Syria and Iraq, serbia, Iraq, armenia, France, Russia, and Egypt.
@@odin.... Russia is friends with turkey dude.
@@odin.... india also
@@odin.... and kurds love turks. Kurds who hate us are pkk ypg kurds. Turkey have 15-20 million kurds and if they hate us they join pkk and ypg.
@Trans PKKballhaha hem trans hem pkk
It feels very bad when a giant Germany located tv channel states that we are not democratic. I really hate when a country with a dark past with dictators insults us as dictatorship. This channel is very sided and I really hate these sided opinions. I hope this kind of media doesn't manipulate opinions on Turkey of people around the world.
I'm sorry that you can't face the facts.
Germany was dictatorship in past not now .
@@ems7623 the fact is what he said
Turkey and Japan were the only 2 Asian countries that adopted the Industrial Revolution of Europe in early 20th Century but still keep their distinct oriental heritage.
@Ronen Salathe wth are you talking about he is saying the reality
europeens calls it like that because of their fear
@@grosfoudujoystick0075 Europeans say sick man because ottoman has been getting weaker in his last days
@Ronen Salathe He said turkey bro not ottomans. After the fall of ottomans atatürk founded the turkey.
@@atheistturk2509 To be fair I'm pretty sure the Japanese were a lot quicker than early 20th century. Something like mid 19th or late 19th is more accurate probably.
The world according to Vox:
The United States
Imagine liking Mr Beast
@Complex Construct I don't have to imagine because i already don't
western countries in general
@@apilolomi4354 am I the only one focusing on the topic?
@@starplatinm9765 What topic?
so confused why everyone but the people who live in turkey are concerned.
He was literally voted president and given more power by the majority.
Because they are bigots and he is a religious man. Nothing more.The İslam is so powerful in the country and he use it really efficiently.
@@omertahaornek2662 soon people will realise their mistakes
People are concerned,especially young people. Turkey just had a massive economy crisis and now everyone is starting to realise that they should be woryying
@@criticalcommunist5 mb in another 50 years
@Aroko 76 🥵
In Yemen most of our people love Turkey a lot❤️
It doesn't matter man.
Almost half of the countries has a problem with turkey and they are not a small countries.
France,usa russia Europe union.
In front of them what happen if a person from small country like yeman will support turkey
@@antonio7497 its cuz of Erdogan he is like drunk one day he saying like '''USA thinking beat Turkey'' After 1 week he saying ''We dont have any Problem with USA''' idk what's he doing all teens waiting for 2023 turkey election
@@harun1333 Right
I hope all muslims can unite.
@@antonio7497 Go and see inside in your own country "India "then tell about freedom to others
Love turkey from Morocco
İblove Morocco
We love you too bro. We are one millet. Muslims.
PUT your to think
You should have worried when Fethullah and the government were on good terms and the citizens were living in a nightmare. Now that Fethullah, the remote control of the west, is out of the picture, and they can't easily control Turkey anymore, the west just realized there's an autocracy here. Well, good morning.
Efe Aydal ooo efe reyiss..
Efe Aydal Allahsiz kafir sen de mi burdaydın ciğerim
oot efe reyiz de burdaymış :D
Efe Aydal reyis yine iyi sokmuş
Napiyon la burda at eis
Love Turkey 🇹🇷 from the Philippines 🇵🇭
2:16 when you complete your last assignment on time
im laught
@@ahmedziyaharmanci ı am laughened*
@@emirhankose2761 lol right
You called Turkey’s protest violent, look in America, what your police doing with a peaceful police
Gramer yakıyor knk
@@lehmcn 😂😂😂
American police cannot be compared to eastern police police in Eastern Europe and turkey are much more brutal
If the black lives matter protests were to happen in Turkey then everyone would be killed and shot
@@mertboyali509 ne diyon :d? ırkçılık protestoları türkiyede olsa ne herkes öldürülüp vurulacak. hiç öyle bir şey oldu mu.
long live Turkey..Respect from Malaysia🇲🇾❤️
akhil sounds as a hindu name. Are u converted???
@@rasiksharma3453 i went to malaysia most of them are Chinese and indians where malaysians are rare there
Tenk you 😍 ım turkey
@@prettyby1100 please support our Sunni leader Erdogan vote for him
Both shithole countries
Hope for the peace -from nepal
Turkey is a neutral country. It’s bothering no any country in the world. Also while Turkeys economy is not very strong they help other poor nations, so Turkey is a positive country that helps humanity. Also Turkey is developing so fast and if they continue promoting their country they soon become a superpower. We love Turkey.
Ultra Mega W Turkiye and you bro i respect everyone in the world and you too i guess.You're legend and i love your country too.
Turkey will rise again with the will of god inshallah!!!
@@mohammedahmad6196 I hope it will but "Why God should help Turkey?"
@@cinarduman3869 i dont know if god will help turkey or not but i do know Allah will for sure destroy the evil powers operating against islam.
@@mohammedahmad6196 Yes bro
Someone should worried about USA when she destroy Iraq and Afghanistan
No one get arrested or punched
People should also worry about India the most, they are throwing attacks on both of the borders of China and Pakistan
@@hamzafarooq7944 lol its the other way around.Its just shows how ignorant you are!!
Iraq and Afganistan where the ones at fault
Don't forget about Libya
@ZX _Regicide They had chemical weapons and used them despite the rules created during the geneva convention
Love turkey from Malaysia
love you too bro
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Love Malaysia from Turkey
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Malatya
4 years later: We are still worried!
More worried than ever
+1
@@burakduruakan6013 ????
Yes
Don't worry we will send him
I am not a dictator. They say it's my strength, yes, it's true. There is nothing I wish I could not do. Because I do not know to act despotic and ruthless. In my opinion, dictatorship is the one that offends others. I want to dominate, winning the hearts of not breaking.
-Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
Most foolish person
@@royalhydra5455 go away wahabi
@@atheistturk2509 why be Atheist bro😔 benim Azerbaijan da🇦🇿🤝🏼🇹🇷
@@user-nt1lc6jc2q Why are you using an arabic name?
@@atheistturk2509 because iam only half azeri iam 🇦🇿🇱🇧🇮🇶in total
You talked about 2016 coup as if it is something okay and normal and legal and necessary. Strange how when things are in our favor they never get to be looked upon as evil, even if they are.
agreed, if the political system is functioning properly, a coup is never good.
@sae people who staged the coup were the agents of Fethullah Gulen, a terrorist who wants to destabilize Turkey and establish his personal caliphate.
❤❤❤so true also i fallen love with you
@@dgillies5420 I think that is quite a dogmatic thing to say
it was staged anyway
Mistakes:
-AKP didn't intend to "help the religious, oppressed by secularism" always. They became anti-secular in late 2000s. Before that
Erdogan looked pretty liberal, he even said he was pro LGBT rights.
-The coup was not a secular coup, it was staged by another religious group. The Kemalist leaders of the army were purged in an investigation called Ergenekon, years before the coup. The army haven't been Kemalists since then. The Kemalists were replaced by FETO members, a very large islamist group which (allegedly) staged the coup.
-The referendum was rigged. The electoral council started counting unofficial ballots mid-count, and a Turkish news agency started releasing official Yes/No percentages way before the electoral council did, no one really knows how they got the numbers before electoral council released them. The count was live too, so electoral council knew about this agency releasing its numbers, and they let them. There are a lot of speculations about this.
-While it wasn't really a mistake, it's important to note that Ataturk was also a democratically selected "dictator". So it's not like the Turkish people were all islamists and Ataturk tried forcing his ideas upon them. And also most of his laws were democratically created, in fact he only used his "dictator" powers in the war of independence.
-Ban on headscarves wasn't done by Ataturk (was done in the 90s), and also it wasn't a total ban. Only from government institutions.
Arseboth I guess because you said it. it must be true.
everything he said is true i saw it with my eyes in The news he was talking about
Arseboth as a Kemalist person, He actually did force his ideas upon his citizens, he released several laws that would silence the Islamist and pro Ottoman Empire side of his country. But this was all for a Turkey which would've contained people who won't be "brainwashed" as we see today unfortunately.
Erdoğan and AKP were ALWAYS anti-secular, the whole "I've changed" act was very fishy from the start, but western world failed to see that (maybe chose not to). And the ones saying "it's an act" were blamed of being paranoid Kemalists. The simple fact is, after becoming jailed Erdoğan realized that he has to be clever about his Islamist agenda and the current power balance in Turkey would not let him go in "guns blazing" and change everything. So he started to act "secular and liberal" to gain the sympathy of west.
It worked because the military presence over Turkish Democracy has always been a problem. And reducing that military control would mean a healthier democracy. However, they removed the military by a rigged court and fabricated evidence, and instead of creating a healthier democracy, they just took that power to themselves.
The LGBT question was asked in an university, before he was elected as the prime minister, and of course he said he's respectful to their rights. Has he said anything else on this issue after he was elected? He didn't even go to TV debates after he was elected. Something that hasn't been mentioned in the video is the Kurds. Erdoğan was much more tolerant to the Kurds because it was in his interest. a) It worked very well for EU relations and the stability in general, b) It pissed off the Kemalists. But after he gained total control, after he didn't need the western popularity, he just treated them the same way Kemalist regime has been treating them in the 90's.
I'm sorry that it was a long answer, I agree on most of what you said. But the "AKP were great at the beginning, but then they changed" storyline is such a BS one, and it's been told so many times. At the beginning AKP just did the things Kemalists should've done, but never could. Like reducing the military presence over democracy, and working on the Kurdish problem. After they gained a firm grip on the country, they just returned to their old selves.
I didn't meant to say they were great, but they didn't act as an anti-secular party in the beginning.
Can the U.S just stay out of other countries decisions on how to have a government.
They should and they have to, But they won't because the Government wants power and influence, Thats the reason why they were in the Middle East and the US and Brits are the reason why so many Countries are in Conflict such as Israel and Palestine, Pakistan and India, China and Taiwan, And many African country conflicts, The US should be providing for other countries instead of stealing resources and destabilizing other nations..
eğer yıllar sonra bunu biri görürse yabancıların havalı birşey yazdığımı düşünmesine yardım edin
ya simdi de mal gibi gozuktum
google translate var bro.
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ugrastiginiz islere bak eziklik psikolojisi icinde suruenerek gııdyırosusuz
Evet kardeşim bence de Enes Baturun Netflix e girmedi stratejik olarak doğru bir karar.
I ❤🇹🇷 I am from Somalia , Turkey helps us and invests in Somalia
We love Turkey as Somalis there the only real Muslim country left may allah protect TURKEY
@Youssef Elfathithese arabs have sold are religion they don't care about Islam and what it stands for saudi Arabia has turned the kabbah into a gold palace destroying the houses of the companions which have been there for for over 50 thousand years and also UAE has supported the torture of muslims in china saying it is okay and many more things I can't mention may allah protect us in these hard times.
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Turkey helps a lot of muslim countries who are oppressed, for example, turkey was the only muslim country to speak out about the prosecution of the oyghur muslims in china.
@@black2.017 We are here for you too my brother, from Bangladesh.
Vox addresses their viewers like if they are from the US... But most of the viewers are outside US...
Americanocentrism
hmm almost as if vox is an american company
@god hates them well then what's with the economy?
@@Dramat1c_Irony that doesnt work when they put “the world” in the title tho does it
@@emilkura6824 Well most western countries are worried about Turkey, not only the US. But sure, it’s not every single country on the planet.
There are subtitles for many countries, but not for Turks, I have a fear that if there is no reason, the Turks will reveal the lies told here in the comments.
welp it didnt work did it? lol 🤣🤣
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As turk who lives in turkey i am worried about my country
I ❤ Turkey from Los Angeles California
Thanks Man :))
♥️
We love you from Turkey
We love American *PEOPLE* too
Love from Turkey too ❤️
First of all, Turkey's population is Muslim by majority. If they choose to have their country turn more secular, or more religious, it's their choice/decision. I've been to Turkey about 3 times, and I'm a Christian. And I could tell you that I enjoyed my stay there more than any European country I have ever visited.
I hope the Turks keep protecting their amazing country and culture, and defend themselves from the unending attempts by the US and the West to destabilize and weaken the country.
Peace !
As a Turk. I thank you for true information you've Done.
Maybe worth to mention that you are turkish
But you wouldn’t want to live in a society that doesn’t promote equality. Your comment has just nullified the many movements of female equality and homosexual equality and equality for minor religious followers, etc.
@@odd6554 You have a point there. I don't know about such movements in Turkey, especially homosexual equality. What I do know however, is that in Istanbul at least (where I have traveled multiple times), women work everywhere. Some wear head scarfs some don't, some wear traditional Muslim covered dresses and some (most) don't. And I'm talking about Turkish women not tourists. It gave me a liberal impression of the country, or of Istanbul at least.
@@odd6554 Sorry for my long reply. I have also traveled to Saudi Arabia, to Riad and Jedda, and I can tell you that these guys are the most backward minded people I've ever seen, especially towards women and homosexuals. Until very recently (khashoukji's horrible murder), what was the "western world" doing ? Turning a blind eye on Saudi Arabia, calling it "their eternal ally", turning a blind eye on them financing and recruiting Daesh, etc.. This double standard and hypocrisy should alone indicate that you should NEVER trust the US especially to promote or lecture the Turkish or anyone else for that matter on how to run their countries, or how to be more liberal. They always, always have their agenda, and it's definitely not the "liberation of the oppressed".
Now the world is worried about Turkey for a whole different reason....
I am worried for you that you watch vox and believe that go check youself to doctor
@@korkukokusu8311 dude I mean the earthquake and it’s effects, are u not up to date with current events?
@@diegopascual101 i live in turkiye bro . . . But this video is full of misinformations .
@@korkukokusu8311 your not wrong, but my comment was only referring to the earthquake that happened there and I send my condolences to you and your people that were affected by that.
@@diegopascual101 sorry and thanks
People: worried about turkey
Turkey: well what about that time america
if the USA is worried about you, you're doing fine, if the US media is doing a video called "why the world is woried about you?" then you're doing great
if the USA is worried about you, you're doing fine, if the US media is doing a video called "why the world is woried about you?" then you're doing great
Kittabellaffa boo yeah they are doing great with this poor per capita. Quit the generalizations , Turkey is all bark and no bite
@@dbetaki8846 Our per capita no matter poor is enough for us and it belongs to our nation ,at least , not as Lil Loz Rockefeller's , Soros' and Zionist 's gained by exploiting African, Asian, Latin American and First NAtions just like the U.S. ,England, France have been doing since centuires getting richer by sucking the blood of other people..Something to be proud of ?..!!!
Hmm, I guess North Korea is a paradise then!
asdfhg nhaaahhhh
Reading Turkish people's writing from all different sides of the spectrum in English on this thread was 100x more educational than the video -- and it was actually a pretty solid video. Thank you all Turkish, Kurdish, Ataturk supporters and Erdogan supporters for voicing your opinion and your arguments in English.
It was very interesting to read, as our media and educational system is so hyperfocused on itself instead of the rest of the world, we rarely get to hear regular peoples' candid and unedited opinions about the state of their nation directly from them.
You my friend, are a really good person and we need more people like you
I cant agree more Buğra
+Ĥ є ჯ є Ņ The Western mainstream media and educational system's failure to focus more on something other than itself or its points of view, is not really something they can be blamed for. Reasons are possibly somewhat complex to fit in here (or I'm just incredibly lazy), but you can be certain that in most (all?) other countries mainstream media networks and educational systems do the same. A similar narrow view, only from their side, modified to suit their needs.
That's why it pays to follow content from as many media networks as you can afford to, and not just mainstream. If you know the language or find publications in English, try foreign as well. All of which are sometimes or oftentimes broadcasting conflicting or completely bypassing stories. Understandably, this method can be time-consuming. However, when you feed your logical apparatus enough, with the help of rationality, it will start sorting things out, allowing you to draw your own conclusions. Which may or may not be correct - but as long as you're aware of this, you should do fine. Better than most, actually.
Ĥ є ჯ є Ņ may I ask what you think about erdogan the bigot?
Buğra Felekoğlu well said
I was worried too but good thing my mom helped me make it
Pls don't worry about us. We know what happened at libya, suriya and vietnam
The world is not worried about Turkey, just the west.
@C caymer What did you expect ? Betray their home country like other nations ?
@@alperenbaser5595 that's not about it at all. klasik bir akçomarsın ve beynin yıkanmış. adam dini kullanarak sizi kandırıyor, farkında bile değilsiniz. diktatörlük yapıyor. insanlar ona olan düşüncelerini söylemeye korkuyor insan içinde. sokakta olsun, okulda olsun, sosyal platformda olsun erdoğanı eleştiren hapse atılıyor. yüzlerce insan hapse girdi sırf bu adam yüzünden. eleştirdik diye. korkudan yazamıyoruz bile, hatta erdoğanla ilgili düşünce belirtirken silivri soğuktur diye mizah yapıyoruz. acınacak haldeyiz fakat gülüyoruz. türkler olarak, kendi sonumuzu kendimiz getireceğiz.
Well.. sorry but "the west" is "the world"
@C caymer are u black? haha what is with you? go back to africa.
exactly .
Main things that need to be corrected in the video according to me are:
1. Ataturk had somewhat dictatorial-ish powers as the founder, plus he had almost full support of the citizens as the war hero. But he didn't want to be a dictator as he tried to bring multi-party system a few times, unfortunately couldn't manage to do it before his death because in every attempt small but somewhat effective Islamist groups who hated secular change tried to abuse it, caused him to postpone the plans before it becomes a major crisis. Also, the only thing he dictated was secularism related stuff which he thought was the only way to protect the country from repeating the later Ottoman mistakes.
2. Headscarfs were only banned for public servants only during their jobs in their work place and for students. Its purpose was (whether you agree or not if it's the right decision) to prevent discrimination between women wearing head-scarfs and who are not in the process of getting government jobs, promoted or getting grades as students, and/or to prevent creating any concern of discrimination in the minds of people who receive the service. Because significant percentage of Islamist people naturally (without even thinking) see head-scarfed women as better muslims, and has a bias that better muslims have higher morality so they could/should be privileged. Because of that notion and because you couldn't and shouldn't ban head-scarfs from the public all together, they thought this ban could at least minimize government based discrimination and any concern of discrimination of that kind. Now the ban is over, and after the referendum, new laws and rules concerning public-servants are on the way which are going to weaken (if not remove) the job-security of public servants, bring less-transparent and corruptable recruitment methods and promotion standards. As a result, naturally female public-servants who are not wearing head scarfs are one of the groups that feel under threat which is also an example of those discrimination concerns I tried to explain.
3. The 2016 coup was not executed by secular Kemalists. There's an Islamist movement which began in 60s or 70s following a cult leader called Fethullah Gulen, which slowly grew socially and ecconomicly by connecting with mainly religious, conservative, less educated and low-income people of Turkey in the name of so called public service and Islam. Provided scholarships for poor people's kids, helped their education, tried to attract clever students to their schools and other educational structures. Tried (succeded in some degree) to brainwash suitable religios oriented kids (detected throughout their education) with Gulen's teachings making them believe they serve for a higher holly purpose. Later, canalized them into studying especially management, law and other fields which are main branches recruited in the government. Then tried to place/infiltrate its followers (who act as they're not from the movement) first in the critical duties which are related to recruitment, promotion, justice department, intelligence and police; then in time, all around the government, except military in some degree as military was more selective and also had strict disciplinary methods against possible cultist or Islamists. The Gulen movement's secrets and goals begin to be exposed by journalists, secular politicians and those claims had decent media coverage in the late 90s and early 2000s. Investigations began which caused Gulen to flee to USA, but after AKP (Erdogan's party) came to power in 2002, the allegations were quickly dropped and media coverage began to diminish except secular opposition's constant warning about the threat which AKP dismissed until 2014 or so. In AKP ruling, the Gulen movement became stronger and stronger in the government, law and police force (and in every field of governmental public service) as AKP didn't have enough qualified people and built a partnership with them. Also they passed laws that especially built a highway for Gulenists to rise in justice department. They also managed to take control the government central exam system that recruits public servants and even military students. Plus, AKP constantly tried to weaken the military firewall I mentioned. After Gulen had enough power in the police and justice department; various anti-military allegations, investigations, lawsuits began which ended up many military generals and high-ranked officers arrested using manifactured false evidence. Although those evidence proven to be totally false, and despite continous opposition warnings, AKP supported those lawsuits for a long long time. The imprisonement, dismissal and/or resignment of many generals and high-ranked officers opened a window for lower-ranked secretly gulenist officers to rise in the military which they took, and Gulen had a decent power in the military as a result. After AKP and Gulen movement had some disagreements in 2014, their fight for power began. First Gulenist tried to bring down Erdogan with corruption lawsuits about ministers and their sons, including Erdogan's son using the concrete evidence they easily collected during their partnership and government power. But Erdoğan managed to tear the lawsuits down quickly using his political power fiercely and creating a vast media propaganda campaign using the media who he slowly took control over the years. After this attempt he tried to weaken Gulen by confiscating media owned by Gulen (which fanatically supported Erdogan until their break-up by the way) and Gulen controlled companies and a bank of Gulen's, which are thought to be the main financial sources of Gulen organization. Then comes the Gulenist officers' coup attempt who weren't enough to control the whole military which is why the coup attempt failed, not that Erdogan invited people to streets. If the whole military joined the coup with full power and didn't hesitate to use fire power againts resistance (not only in a few places but everywhere) nobody could stop it. There are many uncovered secrets and serious doubts about the coup too, but I won't be going there in this post because it would be speculation.
4. Now Erdoğan declared Gulen organisation as a terrorist one (which is actually justified) and he is using the coup attempt and state of emergency laws to get rid of any opposition because it made a perfect excuse for him to fire and/or jail people at will, as there really were many Gulenists in the government (and in every part of the community) but public doesn't know who are. He and his supporters can blame anyone being a secret Gulenist and that is now a major oppression method going on. He already accused the opposition being a partner with Gulenists (the same opposition who constantly warned him about the Gulen threat and always fought against Gulen's false lawsuits) during the referendum. Unfortunately, if he's elected the president with the new powers (which he probably will be because he already controls the election system in the justice department which declared about 2,5 million illegal votes legal during the referendum), the power will single-handedly be his and the state of emergency laws will be the norm in the country.
Added: Hours after I wrote this, the very popular biggest secular opposition newspaper (which always has been against Gulen organisation and fight against their false lawsuits) and its owner and editors are under heavy investigation for supposedly helping Gulen organisation and trying to overthrow the government. Their buildings are being searched by the police at the moment. Probably I am next for writing this comment, seriously.
Perfect input. Awesome.
I agree whole-heartedly.
Utku Hasan u will be fine👍
Thanks, I tried to explain in the best way I can. Hope, I could put some light on it, especially for foreigners.
It was a joke but it has some truth in it. Everyone who doesn't support Erdogan feels that concern about their future in here. How do you know I'll be fine? It would be relieving to hear :)
Utku Hasan I say u will be fine bc u seem smart 🤓
I am not a dictator- 20 years in power.
One of the Finnish president was in power for 27 years. He was not a dictator.
@@bdeshiguy Good for him.
Well from what i seen majority of the turkish still support him so he was chosen to lead not lead by force
Bangladesh loves Turkey 🇹🇷❤️🇧🇩
Turkey loves Banglades bro ❤❤
@Benjamin Netanyahu You lost, Benjamin.
@@ArIF-pr2oe ❤️❤️muslim brothershood
toiletless
well all muslims love islamic states, your opinion doesn't matter🤦♂️
Turkey is a great country. I love Turkey from USA. 🇺🇸 ❤️ 🇹🇷
Ben Does Dabs then u should leave usa
we don't have room for islam trash
@@kevinchien8926 u guys are racist
Thank you brother
Ben does dabs thank you bro I love you
@@kevinchien8926 i don't understand how can people be so mean 😢
Change your title to '' why western world is worried about Turkey"
truest comment ever
They're afraid.
@Uchiha_Sasuke cuz its kiddish
Everyone is worried, A dictatorship isn't something that only the westerns should be worried about, If a dictatorship goes unnoticed many bad things can happen such as extreme poverty in just like in
Venezuela. Executions and no freedom of speech in China and human right violations in Saudi Arabia, Turkey is a dangerous country and has broken multiple rules during the past 50 years, including one from the geneva conection, I'm not saying that we should start a war but we should keep a close eye and be stricter then are.
Hahaha 👍 yep
5:10 idk why you guys see removing a literal headscarf ban as a problem wth srsly
Well most people outside Turkey do not know this but actually majority of the Turkish population have always been against headscarf ban including secular people. The ones who were against it was a small but powerful minority. Erdogan could have abolished the ban as soon as he came to power and I am sure people would support it because they did supported it when the ban was abolished later. But he didn't abolished the law immediately because he and his party were secretly okey with women wearing headscarfs not being able to go to the universities and getting a job. They were and still are against women actively participating in social life, they wanted these women (which makes more than 50% of adult women in Turkey) to stay at home marry and have children. So headscarf wasn't just a good tool they use to make woman stay at home but also a reason for blaming secular people for the ban and demonize them. Turkey's opposition party (which is a secular one) had gone under huge change with the new opposition party leader during Erdogan's power and the headscarf ban actually abolished after the opposition party leader said "we see headscarf ban as an unfair discrimination against women." After this (10 years later he first came to power) Erdoğan panicked and abolished the law immediately. Because he was always lying about how he wanted to abolish the law but "anti-religion evil secular"s in the government are not letting him.
headscarf is protection you need to actually use ur brain
@@p_akistani1687 but wish pakistanis use some they would not be begging?According to our logic why do men don't wear handscraves wouldn't be good if men were also smart 😂
@@gwendolinepaula7635 OH SURE "GWENDOLINE PAULA", TRULY A VERY TURKISH NAME
WONDER WHERE YOU GET THIS INFORMATION FROM, SIS :D
@@gwendolinepaula7635 Wow you seem to be affected so much by these conspiracy theories
It is secular to allow wearing a headscarf!
@Maxime Laville Arab? Turks are not Arabs, you know that right?
@Maxime Laville no that's ridiculous? we are only Muslims and schools are taught as brother countries to other Turkish countries, not Arabs! While we were living in Central Asia, we migrated and converted to Islam, which is the correct religion. Culturally, it is very normal for us to buy something from Arabs, but we have our own culture and we have a very different and great culture than that of Arabs. According to Islam, Muslim is the brother of Muslim so I can call Arabs my brother, but TURKS ARE NOT ARABS! TUNES OF AUTHORITIES LIVE IN TURKEY, AZERBAIJAN, KAZAKHSTAN, UZBEKISTAN, TURKMENISTAN, KYRGYZSTAN AND RUSSIA! Bulgaria Finland Iran are Turkish countries although not official
@Maxime Laville you know literally nothing about history. Don't make me laugh kid
Actually guys we are not turk or arab we are hybrid in other words we are children of unknown parents we are humans and thats enough
@Maxime Laville that's funny
When there was a coup we did not rise for erdogan we rose for our country.
And now you are doomed
@@aishwaryatiwari5292 we were doomed the moment we voted erdogan in
@@aishwaryatiwari5292 says the Indian under Modi :D
@@comradekenobi6908 well the thing is however I may hate modi but I know one thing he being a right wing politician unnecessarily gets targeted by pseudoliberal foreign media. I am a devout liberal and I see things in rationality and I can say that our democratic institutions are far far more independent and democratic than yours.
@@aishwaryatiwari5292 hold on, unnecessarily?
*Dude he LITERALLY UNDERSTIMATE COVID, CALL THE VIRUS EFFECTIVELY QUARANTINED AFTER THE FIRST WAVE, AND HOST AND ENCOURAGE LARGE GATHERINGS OF PEOPLE FOR POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, CAUSING THE VIRUS TO SPREAD AND TO OTHER PART'S OF INDIA MORE EFFICIENTLY INFECTING UNTOLD NUMBERS OF PEOPLE.*
*AS THE LEADER OF THE 2ND LARGEST POPULATION ON EARTH HE SHOULD NOW THIS, BUT NO. HE ONLY CARES ABOUT HIS REPUTATION, AND HE ONLY CARED IF IT COULD BENEFIT HIM POLITICALLY, NOT THINKING THE EFFECT BIG GATHERINGS WILL CAUSE ON PEOPLE*
Love Turkey from Indonesian
Teşekkürler abi (thanks in Turkish)
Love Erdogan lead the ummah from UK
türkiyeden endonezyayı sevin / Indonesia glad to turkey
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“I missed the part where that’s my problem”
- Bully Maguire
Alhamdulillah Muslim will be united once again. May Allah bless us His guidance and protection in this world and in Hereafter. Ma Sha Allah
Love you turkey from Somalia. We are your side
Anca afrika yanımızda olur zaten
Love Turkey,
From Australia!!
Brother nation.
@@fenomenler8536 what does that mean?
@@fenomenler8536 Oyle deme Ingil terre aslinda kotu Australia bizim askerimize yemek verdi.
Always love back to Australia
Love Australia,
From Turkey!!
Worry about Sudan and Egypt, Turkey is progressing well.
May Allah protect all humanity from dictators
Wooow.. as an ordinary but a well-informed Turkish man, I can freely say that this video is designated one-sidedly and totally wrong. Do those who mention about secularism know that only a handful of countries are secular in the world.
yes this video is filled with terrorism!
They cant dictate him so they call him a dictator 🤯
I hope Turkey doesn’t turn out to be like Iraq someday.
Iraq the country that had no homeless
@@spacedrone7819 No. Never. We are not like you.
Make a video about why the world is worried about USA. It's more interesting there is 1 million reason about USA
He is American do you think he is going make video about how all world worried about usa
No, Turkish nationalism and racism are more important. Turks are the most racist people in the world.
@@magnumlifestyle6327 there no racist people like American. Usa now is enemy world everyone know that not China not Russia not Korea or any Islamic country is that usa who stars civil war on other country and play help to take resources and create group terrorist to make sure stay there forever
@@magnumlifestyle6327 and you support that statement with?
@@magnumlifestyle6327 I am Turkish and people here have never been and will never be racist. There are racist people in every country, nobody can deny this. But know that we dont pursue racist thinking and policies like in America.
This video doesn't age well. Alhamdulillah
They are doing pretty good. Spend a year in turkey, thank you very much for the concern lol.
Low quality of life
I love turkey from Antartica
Mee to from moon
@Cibuti'ye Havuz Yaptıracam love from Sun
Zeus here...all of you behave🤓😉
Love Turkey from my bedroom
Love turkey from Indonesia ❤
The most American Subjective video I've ever seen
We need to learn Islam from the Qur'an, we need to read it by looking at the whole Qur'an without removing the verses from their context.
I've been in Turkey...
It's a beautiful and bountiful country with a rich history and many friendly traditions and people. Can't count how many times my family was invited to dinner and parties in our gardner's family.
No, no one was a terrorist.
They were just wonderful people.
Great food, mind bending traffic and open air shopping centers. Now I will admit that I was there in 90, 91 and 92.
There was a big difference between them and now but that's fit for tat.
We cannot continue to forcefully gain control over countries that may produce more money within our control than outside of it.
Turkey is an occupied country, there is nothing Turkish in Turkey, only the dogs.
Mathew Hamel xenophobic people.were all humans yet they treat all of their neighbours and minorities inhumanly
All bad comment ter,you guys are right
Its not easy smashed ottoman Empire 620 yrs😀😀😀😀😀
i am a turkish guy and this is true.. dogs of erdogan
mando mando hey if you say Turkey belongs to those nations why none of them can come and try to take their land back? Let me tell you, because you guys don’t have BALLS to do it!
Correction: why west worried about Turkey.
dude this was 3 years ago and it happend
@@turan7060 I'm from Mogadishu Somalia But to Turkish is our closest ally and Brothers.
@@pss_crs we dont love Erdoğan in Turkey
@@peeph8464 I can See But now its Works like That Majority Leads.
Your time May As much You have Supporters Besides Your Ideology.
I the case we have hare is different Then that Its focus is a Turkish people No matter Which political Side , Ethnic or religion you're In.
I have a lot Turkish friends and I know Enough what's going on There Especially after July 2016 But every thing Gonna Alright Don't be harry alone.
@@peeph8464 Ben seviyorum ?
I support Erdoğan at some points and dont support at some points too. I support him about removing banning headscarves. Women are free as long as they don't go overboard with what to wear. And headscarves should be free. Alcohols... Their sales should be at suitable places. But... sometimes it's really not nice to exploit religion.
honestly I got a feeling a new sultanate is going to form if the inflation thing gets fixed
vay lan bu video nerden karşıma çıktı bilmiyorum videoyu bıraktım yabancıların yorumlarına bakıyorum
hbhgklhgliygiul
İngilizce bilmek önemli be arkadaş öyle bakıyorum 😥
@ neresi haklı lan
@ nereleri haklı yalan atıyolar sikikler.
Neymiş Erdoğan diktatörmüş.
@@cortingenOmer doğru söylemiş helal olsun
Love Turkey from Bangladesh 🇧🇩❤️
@@rauf2610 ♥️
Love from Turkey💛
Same dear a Somali daughter from Nairobi
HATE TURKEY FROM TURKEY
@@aark484 Why?
no matter what media shows them differently to the world! I love Turkish! People are stuck with some religion ideas but they are the most friendly and hospitable people even though they are not christians
Long live turkey
some one misspelled this '' why the us is worried about turkey
copy moment
Yeah the GOVERMENT is bad in Turkey soo
~armenia too~
@@kl6544 I don’t really know much about Armenia but I just don’t like the Turkish government
@@m1o645 yallah amerikaya yaşasın ırkımız
Atatürk's lovers didn't do it, Fetö did it, Atatürk's lovers love their country.
Aynen öyle bro
Ata turk was you enemy ....... not good four turkey,,,
@@Yeettto i have read, i know,... ,, why one peopel have more and 4 namne to this languge to this peopel to this mother language.. the last namne is rompre empire,, bytsnia,, ottoman,, and last Ata turk,, that namne to peopel gives after ata turk,.,,,
if your are peopel with tail,,,, okey,, not my problems...
Peopel like you are like tail.. what you said they doo four to be rich and are stupid..
@@Yeettto and you know if you have read this history,, the first namne to this contry was Bithany(bistany) , but rome empire when they take this contry change ti east empire,, after that to ottoman and after that to ata turk..
they do want they want with this peopel,,,
@@fuaddibrani2208 I know better than you do because he was our leader(no offence I just wanted to let you know)
Wold going to right place let’s all wish good things work with ur friend and brothers 🙏🏾🙏🏿
Why is vox so anti Islam
😂😂
I didn't see any anti islamic thing
We are not Islamic Country We are not Islamic Country We are not Islamic Country We are not Islamic Country We are not Islamic Country We are not Islamic Country We are not Islamic Country
@@schopen03 yes we are, liberal go back to the west
@@schopen03 this guy is brainless ı live in turkey we are islamic country
@@schopen03 go to your masters in uk and us and lick them boots there
Vox - world is worried about turkey.
World- we are worried about America and Isreal.
These comments just get better and better as you scroll down.
Hah xD
Nah
Ikr!
Yea like, the video itself is...
I'm happy the comments are knowledgeable
The air is foggy, full of mist. It's the hour. All the open fields of Asia from Altai Mountains, all those streets on the way are leading us to the Mediterrenean Sea. A storm on the sea is closing in, the waves are rising again. After all those years, after all those roads, the children are singing songs. Neither the past is diminished, nor the tomorrows, the life refreshes us.
It's the hour.
The world should be more worried about Israel and the US
Bülent they are not worried about us, kendi çaldığımıza nasıl oynadığımızı anlatıyor bu video sadece
🇮🇱🇮🇱
Although yes the world should be more worried about Israel and USA, we shouldn't forget other countries.
And Iran
Kesinlikle
Love from Poland 🇵🇱&🇹🇷!!
Apollo Creed
Greetings to Poland from Turkey💕😊
Thank bro 🇹🇷🇵🇱
Same bro im turk😋
💓👍
Apollo Creed love from Atatürk love from TURKEY.
🇹🇷T
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You mean why USA is worried about Turkey?
Thanks. Nice video!
Why don’t you try make one of all the dodgy things the USA has done?
They already did.
they can't...they targeted only Muslims.
Killing is Killing the American killed.And the Ottomans killed thats war pal (im turk)
_Gray Burrito_
Hong Kong is so much more dangerous for a Muslim than in Pakistan
mass shooting in US.
The title is why USA is worried about erdogan not the world . so pls STOP PUTTING DELIROUS TITLES .USA IS NOT THE ENTIRE WORLD.
Erdogan is turkish
No, they're not the only ones
To them the west is the world, everything else is just their slaves
ChangedNames rt
They're not the only ones
World... You meant liberal western
0:52 Atamı o "adamla" yan yana görmek bile yakıyor yüreğimi...
Siktir lan sanki atan sadece ataturktu sahte dunyada yasiyorsun
@@istanbul-express2019 Ne diyon lan sen atatürk türklerin en büyük atası tayyip kim la yanında
@@fikret4235 büyük atasi degil bir osmanli askeridir.
@@istanbul-express2019 ulan Atatürk 10 yılda Türkiye'yi şahlandırdı "Din Tücarı" ise içine sıçtı
@@musti_el_bendi tamam
What about Fetullah Gülen, the one who planned the coup against Erdogan in 2016 and escaped to Pensylvania in America during the coup which was failing
You are not wrong, but he lived there long before the coup. The turkish government suspected a lot on him so he went to america in the 2000s. After (and also before) the coup, they asked the U.S. to return him, but surprise surprise, they didn't
Houston Rockets me too
@@umuttoprakozler1151 ne bendesi lan adamın ülke için yaptığı kalmadı siz daha halen begenmiyorsumuz vallaha pes yani
@Houston Rockets ok boomer. Ur right grandpa. Bai old man.
@Houston Rockets At least Turkey helped other countries because of Covid-19.
Love Turkey from Bangladesh
Tricks And Hack Bangla Teşekkürler abi (thanks in Turkish)
who r u for turks?
i am not worry about turkey ... or even russia & china. i am more worry on usa.
As a Turkish i'm also worried about Turkey. We going to collapse.
Your neighbors are waiting