I just reached +500 km today with my 2020 model e-niro on a single charge. Been driving about 85 km every day using climate all the time at lowest fan speed at temp between 18-21 C (temp outside 15 - 22 C) and regen on level 3. Mostly highway driving (90-115 km/h) in moderate - heavy traffic. This car is an efficiency monster and always takes you more km than stated. I’m still on 3% 😁
Is this really true?! I am having such a hard time deciding on a car for my family. I’ve been searching for months now and have been debating between the tm3 sr+ and the KIA e- niro . What I don’t like , and that has been the reason why I did not want the Kia over the Tesla, is that I’d have to charg every 3-3.5hours on the highway at 110kmph. If it would at least reach 400km would be awesome! The downside is that the limit of charging is at 77kw so if I only get 300-350km / charge and have to wait for 50min… it would be too much I mean, I am ok with charging longer time if we at least have to eat after 4 hours…. Does it take 50min to charge 10-80%:ish 🙏🏻
I really appreciate your highway speed tests - the only range metric that is relevant in a car that is not meant for cities is the highway range, and in my opinion, that's the range that all manufacturers should advertise with their vehicles... maybe there could be a standardized test, like WLTP and NEDC, that measures typical highway driving...
Me too! It's great seing tests done in real world conditions. I was looking at this car. Björn (other popular channel) makes tests where he drives 90 km/h and he pulled 375 km from this car. BUT, I don't care! Sure, good it can do it... But I don't think it's comparable to a petrol/diesel/plugin-hybrid yet, because I'm not driving 90 km/h to extend my eco-friendly range. I go 130 km/h minimum, usually ~140 km/h, ~150 km/h if it's off-peak. I've been looking at switching my 2021 Kia XCeed PHEV to an EV, but they are still not ready. I need to be able to drive between my two offices (300 km) in one go, at ~140 km/h, otherwise, I'm buying an impractical car for me. I might be stopping anyway for a coffee, but I don't want to be forced to do it or rely upon DC charger availability. It's getting close though. But I don't want to be arriving at ~5% either. My current car spends around ~50% of the 37 liter tank and most of the PHEV battery. I'll recharge at my office and maybe fill the tank if I bother. It can make it both ways with around ~30 km left on the gas tank and empty battery. I just tend to avoid draining the fuel tank entirely as it's not the best for the pump and filters. Not an anti-eco warrior though, I want that EV acceleration. The BMW IX seems promising in the range, but it's almost 5x the price of a Kia XCeed here and I put 30-40 thousand km onto it a year, so that would be a more expensive write-off than my house. I have VERY high hopes for the next "second generation" Kia EV6 line of cars when they begin pushing into 600+ km territory. That should give a comfortable 400 km winter range at 130 km/h.
Great vid - REAL world driving and how it responds, that was interesting, especially as the Niro did nearly 300km! I'm planning on a EV...the Niro (Roberto!!) I don't think is as famous as the Kona, but it seems to be slightly better...also possibly best SUV (EV) out there too, certainly best value, at the moment, what do you think...?
🙏 This video is a good decisionmaker. other tests show 264km range in winter with heating on. what is your experience? One thing is missing though. this is still the avarage. suppose driving from berlin to wintersport one does not turn around the car half way. so real worse case scenario test would be: driving against the windspeed 6 or 7 (ev's worse enemy) in the winter possibly with some rain or snow. Also this and other type of atmosfere density or resistance are influencing the range. I speak from experience. driving proace (brick) wioth roofcarrier and permanent ladder on top.
You can't charge 200% (min: 0:59, you didn't exepct this joke, isn't it?), only soccer players can deliver more than 100%. Beside that, you're one of the contributors I got an EV on July 2020. Thanks for your videos! ;-)
Recovered = Being collected by a breakdown Truck whist being unable to use your vehicle whether it's because of a breakdown or simply running out of fuel!
I think it did adjust for the speed. The predicted range at 50% was 200 km and it 33% was 113. In the first case the full range would’ve been 400 km and in the second case 339 km so in other words the range has reduced because of the fast driving.
Hahaha ... Robert eNiro! Good joke. I love that you can drive at good speeds in Germany. Here in Oz our maximum speed is only 110Km/hr (very slow for such a big country)☹️
I think 120km is a safe high speed test. 130 puts drivers in the "license suspension zone", with demerit points. I do 105 daily and hug the slow lane at highway speeds. I get the most out of the battery and more accurate charge stop estimations, plus zero chance of a ticket.
Thank you Chris! You have confirmed my estimations that the higher the speed the more eNiro loses to Model 3 in efficiency and you have tried really hard to make it to the charger! Model 3 LR at 150 km/h in winter did almost the same as eNiro in spring (13C?) at 130 km/h maximum speed. Do you have some kind of speed graph (EV Notify?) or at least average GPS speed calculated from Google Maps timeline?
@@BatteryLife That’s great - minimal penalty because you have started and completed the test right on the Autobahn... Will try to do the same when Ionity comes to life at the closest to me A1 autobahn rest area.
@@BatteryLife Mine average speed was only 117 km/h in Tesla, but I had started and finished 12 km from autobahn, also turning point was suboptimal. Speed graph is included... ua-cam.com/video/6dx5PtEf7F8/v-deo.html
@@AzizIzginIt's about 170 kmh. Unfortunately there is no way for me to test range at these speeds. We could not keep such speed on German autobahn during our trip due to the traffic and absence of sufficiently long unlimited segments, and in Poland for me such test is not legal... also would not be able to keep this speed, a lot of trucks overtaking...
You are talking maybe 230+ miles in the UK , as the speed limit is 70mph which is about 112 kmh , think Carwow tested it and got 255 miles actually , only the Tesla beat it out of all the cars tested.
No, it is the 64 kWh version. Driving this car on dry summer roads in Norway, it is possible to get a range of over 500 km. But at an speed of 120-130 km/h at 13 degrees Celsius it "only"has a range of about 300 km.
@@BatteryLife Okay, GOM is also not good in estimating range, as you said. Still I think 64 kWh of available energy and "only" 300 km range could be a little disappointing. Thanks for the video btw.
@@BatteryLife Okay, if you compare it to the poor range of Mercedes EQA 250, you are right of course. I tried to compare it to my Zoe ZE50, which afaik has lower consumption (it is also lighter btw).
These days is main topic of EVs the battery degradation. Niro having SK Innovation battery seems to be the best choice regarding degradation. The ID3/4 with LG battery seems not to be the good choice unfortunately :-/ I love ID4 ... but degradation is big scarerow now...
Those Frankfurt PRess e-Niro seem to have about 1y old Infotainment software - what the heck? No wonder also dealers show no interest to update them...
@@BatteryLife would be interesting if you can ask Kia for feedback on that. Also why we can not officialy download & self-install like other regions (US, Russia?) There are all 3 Months new Versions with IMHO nice Improvements (i.e. recently Valet mode) and updated maps.
@@BatteryLife I have read both your comments on this, and I still have trouble visualizing it when at home on my computer! How about another video?! ;-)
Frankly 300km range does not matter to me as much as a meaningful GOM. Having it change so dramatically when you are driving so consistently doesn’t show enough calibration was done with it’s estimates. Would make it hard to plan.
In every car the range can change. You have to check the power consuption and divide it with the fuel/battery capacity of your car. In this case 60 kwh (real capacity available) / 22 *100 (consuption at 130, according to the display), so 272 is the range.
Hi Chris, watched this on release but last week received my eNiro 2 Long Range 64kWh. At the time and now watching again, I'm struggling to find how you set the non adaptive cruise control? Thanks.
@@JohnDoe-vx3z I drive an e-Niro and I agree. It's the one thing I wish it had. There is a lot of steep hills where I live (as in 25% steep) and when the road is wet and you need to steer into a tight curve, the car will lose traction. Other than that it is a great car. When going 110 / 120 km/h the consumption is about 17 kWh / 100 km so it almost gets 400 km of range in normal driving on motorways when you flow with the traffic.
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I just reached +500 km today with my 2020 model e-niro on a single charge. Been driving about 85 km every day using climate all the time at lowest fan speed at temp between 18-21 C (temp outside 15 - 22 C) and regen on level 3. Mostly highway driving (90-115 km/h) in moderate - heavy traffic. This car is an efficiency monster and always takes you more km than stated. I’m still on 3% 😁
Is this really true?!
I am having such a hard time deciding on a car for my family. I’ve been searching for months now and have been debating between the tm3 sr+ and the KIA e- niro . What I don’t like , and that has been the reason why I did not want the Kia over the Tesla, is that I’d have to charg every 3-3.5hours on the highway at 110kmph. If it would at least reach 400km would be awesome!
The downside is that the limit of charging is at 77kw so if I only get 300-350km / charge and have to wait for 50min… it would be too much
I mean, I am ok with charging longer time if we at least have to eat after 4 hours…. Does it take 50min to charge 10-80%:ish
🙏🏻
With 39kw or 64kw battery version?
I really appreciate your highway speed tests - the only range metric that is relevant in a car that is not meant for cities is the highway range, and in my opinion, that's the range that all manufacturers should advertise with their vehicles... maybe there could be a standardized test, like WLTP and NEDC, that measures typical highway driving...
Me too! It's great seing tests done in real world conditions.
I was looking at this car. Björn (other popular channel) makes tests where he drives 90 km/h and he pulled 375 km from this car.
BUT, I don't care!
Sure, good it can do it... But I don't think it's comparable to a petrol/diesel/plugin-hybrid yet, because I'm not driving 90 km/h to extend my eco-friendly range.
I go 130 km/h minimum, usually ~140 km/h, ~150 km/h if it's off-peak.
I've been looking at switching my 2021 Kia XCeed PHEV to an EV, but they are still not ready.
I need to be able to drive between my two offices (300 km) in one go, at ~140 km/h, otherwise,
I'm buying an impractical car for me. I might be stopping anyway for a coffee, but I don't want to be forced to do it or rely upon DC charger availability.
It's getting close though. But I don't want to be arriving at ~5% either.
My current car spends around ~50% of the 37 liter tank and most of the PHEV battery. I'll recharge at my office and maybe fill the tank if I bother. It can make it both ways with around ~30 km left on the gas tank and empty battery. I just tend to avoid draining the fuel tank entirely as it's not the best for the pump and filters.
Not an anti-eco warrior though, I want that EV acceleration. The BMW IX seems promising in the range, but it's almost 5x the price of a Kia XCeed here and I put 30-40 thousand km onto it a year, so that would be a more expensive write-off than my house. I have VERY high hopes for the next "second generation" Kia EV6 line of cars when they begin pushing into 600+ km territory. That should give a comfortable 400 km winter range at 130 km/h.
Great video. Nice video production.
Excellent video!!
Thanks. I needed this video.
Great video :)
I have Kia Niro EV 2019.. Great range (about 400 km in summer time and driving average 90km/h), compared to my old Nissan LEAF 2017.
Thank you for testing the average range and risking the car running out of battery life. Good test and good music.What is the name of the song?
Awesome.
Great vid - REAL world driving and how it responds, that was interesting, especially as the Niro did nearly 300km! I'm planning on a EV...the Niro (Roberto!!) I don't think is as famous as the Kona, but it seems to be slightly better...also possibly best SUV (EV) out there too, certainly best value, at the moment, what do you think...?
This is for UK, USA & other miles based countries - 300km = 186 miles.
🙏 This video is a good decisionmaker. other tests show 264km range in winter with heating on. what is your experience? One thing is missing though. this is still the avarage. suppose driving from berlin to wintersport one does not turn around the car half way. so real worse case scenario test would be: driving against the windspeed 6 or 7 (ev's worse enemy) in the winter possibly with some rain or snow. Also this and other type of atmosfere density or resistance are influencing the range. I speak from experience. driving proace (brick) wioth roofcarrier and permanent ladder on top.
You can't charge 200% (min: 0:59, you didn't exepct this joke, isn't it?), only soccer players can deliver more than 100%. Beside that, you're one of the contributors I got an EV on July 2020. Thanks for your videos! ;-)
Good Video, your getting pretty accurate with these things aren't you? I mean your not being recovered often like I would be 🙂
Recovered?
Recovered = Being collected by a breakdown Truck whist being unable to use your vehicle whether it's because of a breakdown or simply running out of fuel!
😜
295 Not Bad!
Wonder what the battery is like on this car now, 2 years later? Used prices are coming down to affordable levels..
I think it did adjust for the speed. The predicted range at 50% was 200 km and it 33% was 113. In the first case the full range would’ve been 400 km and in the second case 339 km so in other words the range has reduced because of the fast driving.
218Wh/km => 64/0,218 = 293 km range @130km/h
Maybe more battery available, not exactly 64 kWh. Maybe 64,2 kWh ;)
@@BatteryLife Range correction up means average consumption goes down.
New eNiro 64 kWh has more capacity at the top, around 66 kWh. Claimed capacity is lower to avoid warranty claims on battery :)
Hahaha ... Robert eNiro! Good joke.
I love that you can drive at good speeds in Germany. Here in Oz our maximum speed is only 110Km/hr (very slow for such a big country)☹️
I think 120km is a safe high speed test. 130 puts drivers in the "license suspension zone", with demerit points. I do 105 daily and hug the slow lane at highway speeds. I get the most out of the battery and more accurate charge stop estimations, plus zero chance of a ticket.
Since a few countries in Europe have 130 km/h as their speed limit. I am doing that
Thank you Chris! You have confirmed my estimations that the higher the speed the more eNiro loses to Model 3 in efficiency and you have tried really hard to make it to the charger! Model 3 LR at 150 km/h in winter did almost the same as eNiro in spring (13C?) at 130 km/h maximum speed.
Do you have some kind of speed graph (EV Notify?) or at least average GPS speed calculated from Google Maps timeline?
Google maps km with travelling time. 120 km/h avg speed.
@@BatteryLife That’s great - minimal penalty because you have started and completed the test right on the Autobahn... Will try to do the same when Ionity comes to life at the closest to me A1 autobahn rest area.
@@BatteryLife Mine average speed was only 117 km/h in Tesla, but I had started and finished 12 km from autobahn, also turning point was suboptimal. Speed graph is included...
ua-cam.com/video/6dx5PtEf7F8/v-deo.html
What would the range be at 110kmph?
@@AzizIzginIt's about 170 kmh. Unfortunately there is no way for me to test range at these speeds. We could not keep such speed on German autobahn during our trip due to the traffic and absence of sufficiently long unlimited segments, and in Poland for me such test is not legal... also would not be able to keep this speed, a lot of trucks overtaking...
Risky. eNiro doesn't forgive going to 0%. You were lucky it didn't stop. :-)
I know!
With id3 you have still 6% soc after reaching 0% in display
@@juveopera3698 same with Tesla you get 5%
Those percentages past 0% are true when the car is new, even Bjørn Nyland says those bottom buffers disappear with age and charging.
@@ronb4633 indeed. It's not safe to go too low anyhow. But Chris does it for us😁
I am on my fourth e-Niro. Best cars I have owned except in the pre EV days of my Merc 230k sport...
4th car in 2.5 years ? how come ?
@@daisy180709 that indeed doesn't sound any good 🤣
You are talking maybe 230+ miles in the UK , as the speed limit is 70mph which is about 112 kmh , think Carwow tested it and got 255 miles actually , only the Tesla beat it out of all the cars tested.
SOc not being linear is a bit worrying
I don't like that either.
What does soc mean ? and also GOM ??
@@daisy180709 sorry! SOC = State Of Charge and GOM = Guess-o-Meter
Thanks Chris excellent!! What was the temperature/wind average?
Wind no idea. Temp should be shown in the instrument cluster.
@@BatteryLife was this with the 39kWh model e-niro?
No, it is the 64 kWh version. Driving this car on dry summer roads in Norway, it is possible to get a range of over 500 km. But at an speed of 120-130 km/h at 13 degrees Celsius it "only"has a range of about 300 km.
01:57 - 340 km range was a little optimistic. Maybe a considerable degradation after 15.000 km with this car after all?
And the soc is not linear!
@@BatteryLife Okay, GOM is also not good in estimating range, as you said. Still I think 64 kWh of available energy and "only" 300 km range could be a little disappointing. Thanks for the video btw.
I think 300km at 130 kmh are great!
@@BatteryLife Okay, if you compare it to the poor range of Mercedes EQA 250, you are right of course. I tried to compare it to my Zoe ZE50, which afaik has lower consumption (it is also lighter btw).
@@futureatob6920 the Niro and kona are pretty good cars, Even beats the ID3.
To go 300 km at 130 km/t is realy good.
Best in class still.
These days is main topic of EVs the battery degradation. Niro having SK Innovation battery seems to be the best choice regarding degradation. The ID3/4 with LG battery seems not to be the good choice unfortunately :-/ I love ID4 ... but degradation is big scarerow now...
Those Frankfurt PRess e-Niro seem to have about 1y old Infotainment software - what the heck? No wonder also dealers show no interest to update them...
Even though the car is only 3 months old.
@@BatteryLife would be interesting if you can ask Kia for feedback on that. Also why we can not officialy download & self-install like other regions (US, Russia?)
There are all 3 Months new Versions with IMHO nice Improvements (i.e. recently Valet mode) and updated maps.
The consumption is ok.
Correct
How to change the cruise to no adaptive mode, I am still searching for that...
Press cruise control, not the set button afterwards, press long the distance button. Message appears!
@@BatteryLife I have read both your comments on this, and I still have trouble visualizing it when at home on my computer! How about another video?! ;-)
Its a great car and on my list, pity its an obscene price in NZ. :(
That's pretty good at 80mph. Legally, you're capped at 70mph in the UK, so range should be even more in our small backward country :)
Frankly 300km range does not matter to me as much as a meaningful GOM. Having it change so dramatically when you are driving so consistently doesn’t show enough calibration was done with it’s estimates. Would make it hard to plan.
In every car the range can change. You have to check the power consuption and divide it with the fuel/battery capacity of your car. In this case 60 kwh (real capacity available) / 22 *100 (consuption at 130, according to the display), so 272 is the range.
The net capacity is 64 kWh.
I'm dreaming about to see you making a german language car test video.
Dream on ;)
Hi Chris, watched this on release but last week received my eNiro 2 Long Range 64kWh.
At the time and now watching again, I'm struggling to find how you set the non adaptive cruise control? Thanks.
Select cc, before setting speed, long press distance button.
I felt the eNiro was a bit sportier than ID4. Both were short drives for me. What is your impression?
Very equal.
Really would like it if this car was rear wheel drive....
Yep, 204hp on the front axle means traction problems.
It is not as bad as other cars though.
@@BatteryLife that's encouraging... I look forward to a test drive.
@@JohnDoe-vx3z
No not in the snow, mutch better the rear wheel there.
@@JohnDoe-vx3z I drive an e-Niro and I agree. It's the one thing I wish it had. There is a lot of steep hills where I live (as in 25% steep) and when the road is wet and you need to steer into a tight curve, the car will lose traction. Other than that it is a great car. When going 110 / 120 km/h the consumption is about 17 kWh / 100 km so it almost gets 400 km of range in normal driving on motorways when you flow with the traffic.
You didn’t had a heat on? Ist it right? Because if so, you can add at least 0,5 kWh/100 km to the result.
Correct, but it was warm, no heat or ac needed.
What tires are on this car ?
I mean model and manufactorer.
Michelin primacy 3
jurgen klopps brother
electric cars:
kWh/100km
hybrid cars:
L/100km
Wh/km is way easier to say and calculate. You should try it ;)